Phoenix Point Review "Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?"

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @ACGreviews
    @ACGreviews  4 года назад +118

    MORNING! Thanks to all for watching. Spread the word, facebook it, twitter it, share it, whatever you can! FYI Gamepass and MS version is SUPPOSED to be day and date but hearing rumours they might be a bit delayed.
    Also if you want to check out the coolest damned discord and patreon ever come on by www.patreon.com/AngryCentaurGaming

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 4 года назад +1

      you should do reviews on games for the companies while theyre still in beta, maybe they'll stop being sent out half baked. love the way you look at things where you see a difference between unpolished or just bad.

    • @BSMixi
      @BSMixi 4 года назад +1

      Game Pass made this decision easy, lol

    • @shawn2993
      @shawn2993 4 года назад +2

      Your Prince 'When Doves Cry' quip was truly epic. Almost too evocative. LOL How you consistently come up with such clever turns of phrase I do not know (clearly, your verbal IQ is exceptional). Nice work as always.

    • @Emily_Entropy
      @Emily_Entropy 4 года назад

      I'm in the mood for an Xcom-a-like, but I've only got time for one. Phoenix Point or Mutant Year Zero?

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 4 года назад

      Thank you for reviewing this. Seems like IGN and PC Gamer are not in a hurry to review this game.

  • @samsonbishop8765
    @samsonbishop8765 4 года назад +93

    I think the fact that they didn't try to shoehorn in a multiplayer mode in a clearly single player game is a positive, not a negative.

    • @stevenmcsteven6693
      @stevenmcsteven6693 2 года назад +1

      I dont know why ppl still care about some random clown review

  • @buddycherrix4837
    @buddycherrix4837 2 года назад +16

    Totally worth doing a second review after all DLCs and bug fixes.

  • @PRuDislav
    @PRuDislav 4 года назад +79

    So pretty much what i expected after last backer beta .... no way near ready for release , pushed forward for "eggsclusivity" .
    Waiting for steam release next year sounds about right

    • @willthrizzal2647
      @willthrizzal2647 4 года назад +20

      Yes or I'll wait for a console release it'll be a cold day in Hell before I put an epic game launcher on my PC

    • @spacemonkeyentertainment6413
      @spacemonkeyentertainment6413 4 года назад +29

      ​@Wire haired Dachshund You lost me at "racism". Cool if you like it, many people don't, partly due to their "exclusivity"-policies, that are objectively anti-consumer. But yeah, randomly insulting people with a different opinion works as well i guess...

    • @MrBigturboweenie
      @MrBigturboweenie 4 года назад +18

      @Wire haired Dachshund Racism? Really? I love how this word gets thrown around like nothing these days.

    • @hairtrigger8317
      @hairtrigger8317 4 года назад +1

      @@willthrizzal2647 I downloaded Epic for the single purpose of taking the games they give out for free, I won't ever give them money but I will take free games. Got some decent free games so far.

    • @meefstick
      @meefstick 4 года назад +2

      @@hairtrigger8317 even if you pay nothing, your still supporting the anti consumer practices.
      Many are cool with that. I prefer to support those who support consumers as a priority.
      EGS exclusives are typically lower quality due to the gaurenteed income from exclusivity deals. Makes em not really care about how well it does, so why put as much effort into it? Welcome to "full release" alpha games

  • @coreymilstein7407
    @coreymilstein7407 4 года назад +126

    To EVERYONE thinking of buying this game:
    Definitely WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT.
    The features and potential and so good but there are so may different problems, some of which can literally force you to restart an entire campaign. Check out the reddit sub, wade through the overly-complainy posts, but most of them have a point.
    Rushed game. Wait for sale.

    • @Juncboks
      @Juncboks 4 года назад +11

      Also, wait so you can not buy it on Epic. And di everything you can to never sorry Epic ever... at all.

    • @karimkalache9034
      @karimkalache9034 4 года назад +6

      @@Juncboks Epic bad

    • @CorwinTheOneAndOnly
      @CorwinTheOneAndOnly 4 года назад +1

      He had such a good concept going for him, but I think he was a tad too stuck on XCOM mechanics. A lot of it doesn't really fit with what we have here, it seems, or at least he didn't make it fit. I enjoy the hell out of the new aiming mechanic, but the lackluster map designs really don't capitalize on it at all.

    • @wise3z
      @wise3z 4 года назад +1

      wait until Microsoft finally release it ?

    • @jadenquest9544
      @jadenquest9544 4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the heads up. I appreciate it👍

  • @IsAMank
    @IsAMank 4 года назад +150

    The lack of polish is painful, and I'm pretty sure I could come up with a better UI. Feels like a downgrade from XCOM 2.

    • @clanechelon
      @clanechelon 4 года назад +19

      It's more of an indie title too. I'm expecting them to upgrade the game as they go. Most AAA title get rocky starts now days anyway (with the publisher pushing for an early release) and gets fixed after a few days/weeks.

    • @The4xRED
      @The4xRED 4 года назад +8

      like they had the budget of xcom 2

    • @grimthereaperz
      @grimthereaperz 4 года назад +22

      this game priced at AA game(40$)..but feels like Early access game instead (10-15$)..XCOM is priced at AAA(60$)

    • @Jinx1349
      @Jinx1349 4 года назад +24

      @@The4xRED Hmmm funny they were backed by epic who gave them milions so the could be exclusive on epic store, and the game lacks polish and is in some people's eye an downgrade from xcom 2.
      Now thats is odd, almost scammy.

    • @ir6734
      @ir6734 4 года назад +21

      @@The4xRED That's not my problem. I won't close my eyes when there comes an unpolished part of the game. Literally the only worthwile part of the game is the aiming system

  • @allansrensen1480
    @allansrensen1480 4 года назад +56

    I'm a early backer of this game and it's disappointing that the game still seems kinda unfinish. I'm hoping they'll "patch it up".

    • @WiidLover
      @WiidLover 4 года назад +3

      I will buy it for 100 precenteges but i agree with you.

    • @ralphwarom2514
      @ralphwarom2514 2 года назад +2

      XD I'm pretty glad I came to the game 2 years a 6dlc later. Its was pretty solid for me. Not a single bug in sight. Had fun beginning to end.

  • @bladechild2449
    @bladechild2449 4 года назад +63

    Surely the whole point of taking Epic's money is to make the game the best it can be. The lack of polish is completely unacceptable

    • @SaintSC05
      @SaintSC05 4 года назад +2

      Unacceptable how?

    • @jiado6893
      @jiado6893 4 года назад +4

      The designs themselves look pretty polished. Didn’t Enemy Unknown launch with bugs way back in the day?

    • @ufuk5872
      @ufuk5872 4 года назад +2

      @@jiado6893 also with Xcom 2
      Run like a piece of pooper, but then come war of the chosen they fixed it, but it wasnt fix for the vanilla game, so you have to pay money to have it fix
      They gonna do the same thing to this game aswell, see the 3 expansion in the starting menu? Thats your fix.

    • @knavenformed9436
      @knavenformed9436 4 года назад +15

      The point of taking Epic money was pure greed, they took the backer money, made the game with that, and thrn they said that they will gain more revenue even if they refunded every backer and took Epic money and the sales cut.
      It's just pure greed while spitting on fans.

    • @ifofcourse
      @ifofcourse 4 года назад

      @@knavenformed9436 Didn´t the main developer basically sleep on the floor because he couldn´t rly afford anything better anymore and thats why he took the epic deal? I´d do that aswell, especially if i have children.

  • @hibanamain5709
    @hibanamain5709 4 года назад +55

    Looking at this game- it feels like they took the Epic money to not improve the game but to work on DLC before the game even comes out, it seems... really weird.

    • @2killzore
      @2killzore 4 года назад +2

      The first dlc is basic like extra items I belive..the 2nd tells a story of a lost civilisation underwater that encountered and presumably were destroyed by the virus..the 3rd is vehicle combat with giant pandora ships in the sky..I'm guessing the ships go wherever the virus spreads in the solar system/galaxy...its really cool but obviously ment to be part of the game already...the final 2 that make up the 5 dlc season pass will be the real dlc that I'm guessing hasn't been conceptualized yet else they would have show it as part of there advertising.

  • @doomsdayng
    @doomsdayng 4 года назад +22

    XCOM: The Bureau was great. Sub-par but serviceable gameplay, decent story and characters, excellent atmosphere and music that elevates the whole experience. People shit all over it, but I think it really held up.

    • @mattiasheden8596
      @mattiasheden8596 4 года назад

      I can't agree more. It's a really solid game.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 Год назад

      The Bureau should be a sub series spinoff to it.. I’d like to see a reboot.. Kinda feels like XCom for Mass Effect fans👍

  • @Ultimafatum
    @Ultimafatum 4 года назад +83

    I was excited and originally backed this game when it was announced on kickstarter. I got my money back as soon as they breached their promise of releasing the game on Steam and I'm pretty damn happy I did. This game needed another year of development, it just looks unfinished.

    • @craigtrish2011
      @craigtrish2011 4 года назад +1

      Imagine caring what store you buy/play from xD still the same game. Stop being some pathetic white knight for steam.

    • @bensosnowski1128
      @bensosnowski1128 4 года назад +14

      Craig Robinson consumer freedom is important. Why would you not like choices?

    • @Ultimafatum
      @Ultimafatum 4 года назад +12

      @@craigtrish2011 I spent money on this project expecting them to honour their promise that I'd get a Steam key for it. It was incredibly dishonest of them to say they would and then 180 a few months before release. Turns out the game was also released in a completely unfinished state for I'm perfectly fine having refunded it when I did. You can stop being bothered by how I chose to spend my own money tyvm.

    • @bryan0x05
      @bryan0x05 4 года назад +6

      @@bensosnowski1128 Well inshort they got an interest free loan, to develop a product to the point where the Epic Game store could look it and want it.
      Other kick starter games have done this and refused to refund backers.
      The Epic Game store is considered by a good number(myself included) subpar, with the lack of features and so on and we decide not to support as per our choice.
      I don't mind things like GOG, Steam, hell even the mircosoft with that game pass. However, epic, go can screw themselves, for this exclusivity stuff to force people into user a barely working platform(case and point: Borderlands 3).

    • @simplygreen5832
      @simplygreen5832 4 года назад +2

      Backed it, still waiting on my GoG key before playing it. Est, Dec 2020.

  • @kritan84
    @kritan84 4 года назад +85

    Just bought this to my wife as her early Christmas gift, she is all giddy and can't wait to get home from work to play it in a few minutes. She's an avid xcom fan and been waiting for this ever since I told her it exist, am looking forward see what it is all about.

    • @Overqualified1
      @Overqualified1 4 года назад +1

      Someone's getting some good nerd lovin tonight.

    • @StubbornFunkyDonkey
      @StubbornFunkyDonkey 4 года назад +10

      Kudos to your wife.

    • @Spiritcr1jsher
      @Spiritcr1jsher 4 года назад +7

      Kudos to your right hand...

    • @squirrelattackspidy
      @squirrelattackspidy 4 года назад

      Original X-Com was better than this game.

    • @grimthereaperz
      @grimthereaperz 4 года назад

      how is it? i just bought the game,and played 5 hours of it
      and it's just..bad..
      compared to xcom series from fireaxis

  • @Mugenmush
    @Mugenmush 4 года назад +168

    "What if Finding Nemo was a hard R?" hahaha. Love ya Karak.

    • @superscott597
      @superscott597 4 года назад +1

      Mugenmush that whole bit had me in stitches.

    • @ECSizemore
      @ECSizemore 4 года назад

      And R stood for Revenge !

  • @NZBigfoot
    @NZBigfoot 4 года назад +61

    Holy shit that base building UI... wasnt watching, looked up and saw it and I honestly thought i was looking at a cosmetics ingame store or something. What a mess.

    • @AurioDK
      @AurioDK 4 года назад +11

      Completely agree, I was a bit disappointed with that, it´s not a screen you spend a lot of time on though so it doesn´t really bother me. It´s just there and serves it´s purpose.

    • @willworkforfood7028
      @willworkforfood7028 4 года назад

      @@AurioDK IRC the base is more than just a pretty layout. Each tile also as combat map tile. Your bases will eventually get attacked, so you will be fighting across the base you built.

    • @AurioDK
      @AurioDK 4 года назад +1

      @@willworkforfood7028 Havn´t gotten that far, so I need to keep soldiers in my bases at all times?

    • @willworkforfood7028
      @willworkforfood7028 4 года назад

      @@AurioDK I haven't confirmed this personally but it does seem to be the case. Base attacks was featured in earlier beta builds.

    • @Jamie-oo4eg
      @Jamie-oo4eg 4 года назад +2

      Building up the base in xcom and xcom 2 was my favourite part of the game, hearing this is dissapointing.

  • @Marquis_de_Nah
    @Marquis_de_Nah 4 года назад +58

    This was totally suppose to be X:Com Terror from the Deep remake

    • @StormkeeperPU
      @StormkeeperPU 4 года назад +1

      That's true, especially considering the XCOM rebooted series didn't go underwater... Nor does this from what I gather, but it's closer to a modern version of Terror than any of its contemporaries!

    • @StormkeeperPU
      @StormkeeperPU 4 года назад

      @Theophilus the homeless I wasn't aware of that.... I need to probably play through the games without streaming or doing Let's Plays of them, so I can get a better feel for the games and be more confident with them whilst playing it where the masses can potentially see!

    • @fekicamekicafekicamekica6813
      @fekicamekicafekicamekica6813 4 года назад +2

      @@StormkeeperPU what masses ? you got 30subs. i mean, why would you do a let's play or stream it when nobody would watch it. what i'm saying is, don't waste your time. plus, everyone's already seen the ending. all the best.

    • @StormkeeperPU
      @StormkeeperPU 4 года назад +5

      @@fekicamekicafekicamekica6813 I did say "potentially", and also, I'm not really working on RUclips or content creation right now anyway, plus maybe I have a larger audience elsewhere? Either way, just because no one is watching now, it doesn't mean that they won't watch it later, plus like I said, I need the practice for when the camera is rolling, or stream is running... If I do nothing, then my audience will always be zero! It's not a waste of time if you're getting something out of it all the same, but to end on a pleasant note... All the best to you too.

    • @rudesthazard5769
      @rudesthazard5769 4 года назад

      More like Apoc, mechanically.

  • @drnovikov
    @drnovikov 4 года назад +63

    Never touch anything from devs who scammed their backers!

    • @ECSizemore
      @ECSizemore 4 года назад +5

      drNovikov didnt they refund them?

    • @JoelGonzalez-oe9ct
      @JoelGonzalez-oe9ct 4 года назад +7

      @@ECSizemore Yep, 100%
      Also... I know Julian Gollop was instrumental for Xcom, so I'll give him a chance

    • @anghbalahr2971
      @anghbalahr2971 4 года назад +4

      @@JoelGonzalez-oe9ct That's what the backers were saying: until they got scammed.

    • @Juncboks
      @Juncboks 4 года назад +4

      @@ECSizemore they refunded them with a "take your pennies back peasant, I've got plenty of cash now, f** off".

    • @robincray116
      @robincray116 4 года назад +2

      @@anghbalahr2971 Where you a backer? I was a backer and didn't really care about the epic deal. So you can count me out of that statement.

  • @AEGISDEFENSE
    @AEGISDEFENSE 4 года назад +21

    Wow the base building is a huge let down. Man XCOM 1 and 2 had the best where layout mattered for alien counter invasions.

    • @saggi201
      @saggi201 4 года назад +6

      The layout does matter

  • @Dermetsu
    @Dermetsu 4 года назад +8

    The Kotaku and Polygon reviews didn't mention even a third of all this, that's why we come to you ACG!

    • @HillHomeGaming
      @HillHomeGaming 4 года назад +5

      Well gaming "urnalists" like work at Kotaku and Polygon are shills and write shitty tripe soooo.....

  • @RevanBartus
    @RevanBartus 4 года назад +57

    The game that went Epic exclusive and I had to refund my kickstarter copy.

    • @Redridge07
      @Redridge07 4 года назад +6

      @RevanBartus …. growup!!

    • @Xport9
      @Xport9 4 года назад +51

      @@Redridge07
      That's a retarded response. Honestly.
      You purchase a product, in a platform of your choice, as it was promised. This is pretty prevalent in their marketing. Then, of course, they had the audacity to bait and switch by going Epic Games exclusive. It's about how you taunt your business. If anything, you're the one that needs to grow up.

    • @tony3003001
      @tony3003001 4 года назад +8

      Redridge07 lol trump attitude won’t work here considering steam has more competitive capabilities than epic but hey try to pull another huawei bullshit when you can’t win as Cisco is less competitive than huawei on telecommunication infrastructure

    • @danneltheflannel
      @danneltheflannel 4 года назад +1

      Idk why people think Epic is any worse than Valve, apparently to you its better spending time to wade through hundreds of garbo shovelware games to find something decent.

    • @sairassiili
      @sairassiili 4 года назад

      @@danneltheflannel
      Oh but lately steam has been sensoring its markeplace. Of games commenting on hong kong.

  • @andersask5503
    @andersask5503 4 года назад +1

    Man, ur the Yt. reviewer with integrity. I just love ur reviews... No bullshit, just straight up info. And you also include sound, that nobody does anymore... So good with no ads and integrity.
    Big up from Norway ( sorry for my sub par English) keep it up

  • @viridianloom
    @viridianloom 4 года назад +75

    I'm patient enough to wait for it to come out on Steam.

    • @StormkeeperPU
      @StormkeeperPU 4 года назад +4

      I backed it, and have mixed feelings about the game, but I'm otherwise waiting for my Steam code as well... Only another year to go, supposedly.

    • @moonasha
      @moonasha 4 года назад +4

      yep and by the time it does it will be more polished or have dlc. In the meantime i'll just play long war of the chosen (xcom2)

    • @IIMANIXII
      @IIMANIXII 4 года назад

      just download it free now - it's up.

    • @specterboy98
      @specterboy98 4 года назад

      @@IIMANIXII what whats free

    • @SuperThest
      @SuperThest 4 года назад

      @@specterboy98 I think he's refering to game pass

  • @gronkdamage
    @gronkdamage 4 года назад +25

    Thank you for including that it's included on GamePass! (And personally, I'm one of those people that they pissed off with the Epic exclusivity - I'm really irritated with this; but still wanted to play it.)

    • @elwismorgan1230
      @elwismorgan1230 4 года назад +3

      That's my main use for gamepass, The Outer Worlds is the same situation.

  • @metal0n0v
    @metal0n0v 4 года назад +36

    Remember how the dev majorly screwed the backers? I remember.

    • @SaintSC05
      @SaintSC05 4 года назад

      I don't remember.

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 4 года назад +5

      Yeah but they gave refunds for those who wanted them and would have screwed the people who work there if they didn't take the deal that epic offered them plus it's on Xbox game pass for PC

    • @willworkforfood7028
      @willworkforfood7028 4 года назад

      I don't care. I was a backer.

    • @Ajc-ni3xn
      @Ajc-ni3xn 4 года назад +1

      I was a backer and forgot about this game for a bit, what happened?

    • @OmkaraHellcore
      @OmkaraHellcore 4 года назад +2

      I member

  • @darron13
    @darron13 4 года назад +18

    Is it weird that I kinda liked The Bureau? XD
    It wasn't like set the world on fire amazing or anything, but it was fun for what it was

  • @Thongger
    @Thongger 4 года назад +22

    I hate how doors automatically open when your characters stand next to them

  • @AbbreviatedReviews
    @AbbreviatedReviews 4 года назад +24

    Julian Gollop invents X-COM and then conveniently makes 80% of the same mechanical advancements Firaxis did to make XCOM.
    Mission Accomplished.

    • @requited2568
      @requited2568 4 года назад +7

      The problem is so far every copy has removed features from the original and while enjoyable they are not what they could have been.

    • @DirkLarien
      @DirkLarien 4 года назад +16

      Totally
      It seems like he just want to cash in on pop trend.
      If i close my eyes slightly all i see is firaxis remake again. It was a good game sure, but is it necessary to make yet another almost same game ?
      Even the UI looks same.

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 4 года назад +1

      But the series devolved 😭

    • @OmkaraHellcore
      @OmkaraHellcore 4 года назад +4

      Have you considered the possibility that Phoenix Point is a glorified testing game for new Xcom 3 mechanics?
      Just a thought.

  • @cyruslupercal9493
    @cyruslupercal9493 4 года назад +37

    Only get it if it gets put on an actual game store.

    • @randallporter1404
      @randallporter1404 4 года назад +7

      Like Steam? I wouldn't do GameStop. Regardless it will undoubtedly be digital, so, gonna wait for it on Steam.

    • @allmight9840
      @allmight9840 4 года назад +11

      Steam or Gog please. Besides it needs polish and will be fun in a year

    • @Wolfsheim23
      @Wolfsheim23 4 года назад

      Yea sure lets all bow to the monopoly like good little sheep. Zero Respect

  • @fenbops
    @fenbops 4 года назад +7

    Man I was hoping for a more traditional type of X-Com game. This looks ok but Enemy Unknown is in my top 5 games of all time and this looks too watered down like the recent X-Com games.
    Remember dropping into a terror zone with 10+ soldiers and blowing up half a city, this doesn’t look like it scratches that itch.

    • @beady123
      @beady123 4 года назад +6

      same here we don’t need more dumbed down versions - give us more complexity not less

    • @robertdukarm2578
      @robertdukarm2578 4 года назад +4

      I actually beat xcom (enemy within) on Iron Man mode in the next-to-hardest difficulty. That's how much I liked that game.

    • @fenbops
      @fenbops 4 года назад +2

      Robert Dukarm they’re not bad games at all but the original is superior imo.

    • @fenbops
      @fenbops 4 года назад +1

      Beady 00 at this point in time I’d just take a HD release of the original untouched. Even the graphics now have a certain charm to them and the gameplay still holds up today. A true classic.

  • @rinku5555555
    @rinku5555555 4 года назад +21

    Honestly I don’t wanna support this game dev for betraying their own banker.

  • @nocturnowl_0100
    @nocturnowl_0100 3 года назад +5

    Final verdict: @ 20:30

  • @mixedbusiness1
    @mixedbusiness1 4 года назад +20

    It looks like a neat concept, especially the story. I'll definitely check it out. Thanks ACG! Love your reviews man.

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat 4 года назад +8

    I still like the original idea behind the bureau. Then the devs back peddled from an interesting concept (kinda risk of rain level scaling to fund a war machine with relics/resources/shinies that operates in a persistent manner in one front of a larger conflict).
    Instead we hit a crappy turn-ish based third person shooter with terrible AI, gameplay and visuals.
    The early trailer wasn’t Xcom but thats partly why I liked it. It looked like a sister series where you were fighting a different faction in an earlier point in the timeline.

  • @bakasoraa
    @bakasoraa 4 года назад +16

    Buy, rent, wait for sale, or never touch?
    I'd say wait for steam release. If it doesn't come then never touch.

    • @sairassiili
      @sairassiili 4 года назад

      What exactly that has to do with the qualities of the game itself?

  • @Zealolicious
    @Zealolicious 3 года назад +8

    Got the Year 1 edition. Honestly impressed with how much the mechanics add that Xcom lacks. Haven’t encountered too many bugs but they need to add a carry mechanic for your troops in case of paralysis

  • @LordChaos2010
    @LordChaos2010 4 года назад +52

    Sadly this game just made me want to play Xcom 2 more. This is like a far cheaper version of Xcom. Gameplay is meh. Overall just a lesser product.

    • @Vasharan
      @Vasharan 4 года назад +6

      XCOM2 or X-COM2:TFTD?
      Because I loved both, but I have a secret crush for TFTD and return to it every few years. I even thought Apocalypse was... okay, I guess? A little weird and klunky, but okay.
      Not touching Phoenix Point after they screwed backers, but fortunately we've had a turn-based renaissance since Firaxis rebooted XCOM.

    • @bd06m0030
      @bd06m0030 4 года назад +2

      @@Vasharan How did they screw the backers exactly? They were refunded if they didn't want the epic games copy. Otherwise they get an epic games key and a steam one when the game is released on steam. Plus all the backers get the DLCs.

    • @MrODST57
      @MrODST57 4 года назад +20

      @@bd06m0030 so they used their backers as a interest free loan ie they took advantage of their customer base

    • @jeiko111
      @jeiko111 4 года назад

      Exactly.

    • @kierendefence
      @kierendefence 4 года назад +4

      @@bd06m0030 because it was a bait and switch, originally advertised that it will be on steam only to be like "lol jokes it's actually gonna be on steam after 12 months, now you have to play it on epic". many backers like myself wouldve backed the game assuming they'd be playing it on steam on release only for that to not be the case. we were lied to and used so that they could secure funding from a party like epic so that refunding us didn't have any meaningful financial impact on them

  • @andrzejsugier
    @andrzejsugier 4 года назад +3

    Goddamn, the interface looks SO MUCH like X-com. I'm still hyped, but they didn't really try to come up with their own GUI, it's IDENTICAL.

    • @cw8
      @cw8 4 года назад +1

      He literally invented and made the original X-Com in the early 90s. But still sour he betrayed us backers for Epic.

  • @MrMattyPlays
    @MrMattyPlays 4 года назад +35

    Excellent work as always, brother.

    • @Saurischian
      @Saurischian 4 года назад +2

      Nice to see you two have each other's respect. Wish the best for both of you.

    • @stomynagari7963
      @stomynagari7963 4 года назад +1

      Holy shit is this a cross over episode?

  • @centurosproductions8827
    @centurosproductions8827 4 года назад +3

    Full bullet modeling is how you know Julian Gollop made this game.

  • @VIPMVPanyquestions
    @VIPMVPanyquestions 4 года назад +23

    Didn't know this was on gamepass. Suck it Epic.

  • @BlackWipeout
    @BlackWipeout 4 года назад +11

    Maybe in 1 year (when it arrives on Steam), this game can be better if the developer adds stuff ;)
    Now, it just makes me want to replay XCOM 2

  • @eiadtarabulsi
    @eiadtarabulsi 4 года назад +3

    The Xcom series has resulted in a popularity when it comes to this style of turn based games with titles such as, Hard West, Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden and now Phoenix Point. Having said that, Phoenix Point definitely looks interesting and intriguing and I would love to buy it at some point. I really like the story, setting and atmosphere. Otherwise, thanks once again Karak for another detailed and honest review. I really appreciate the hard work. Keep it up!

  • @carpetclimber4027
    @carpetclimber4027 4 года назад +53

    The research looks boring and the base building so basic.

    • @GriffinKneesock
      @GriffinKneesock 4 года назад

      It’s no different from any other XCOM game,

    • @Malaclypse_the_Third
      @Malaclypse_the_Third 4 года назад +9

      @@GriffinKneesock I disagree, the interface in particular isn't great.

  • @Favriscius
    @Favriscius 4 года назад +17

    "A little bit like an evil clam chowder" - I'm sold.

    • @Nefilum
      @Nefilum 4 года назад +1

      Aren't all clam chowder evil?

  • @michaelcoffey1991
    @michaelcoffey1991 4 года назад +23

    • @ACGreviews
      @ACGreviews  4 года назад +3

      thanks

    • @wulf2863
      @wulf2863 4 года назад

      It's on gamepass dude

    • @uhurunuru6609
      @uhurunuru6609 4 года назад +3

      Fuck Sub services, I prefer to go with Epic (it's DRM free, unless devs add DRM) to MS stores UWP games, and renting them is even worse.
      As someone that doesn't give a damn what the store clients "Features", are like, DRM free means I don't need to use it, after downloading..
      If it wasn't for their exclusive policy, epic would be my 2nd choice, after GOG, where due to GOG's offline installers, I don't even need to install GOG Galaxy, to get the games.
      I wouldn't use a sub service, (or worse streaming), if they paid me, I mod all my games, and replay them for years. I already own all the old games I wanted.

  • @LukeVanja
    @LukeVanja 4 года назад +43

    TB would love this game.

    • @jake38ful
      @jake38ful 4 года назад +8

      God rest his soul

    • @JorgeGarcia-lr3vk
      @JorgeGarcia-lr3vk 4 года назад +4

      Rip TB

    • @andrewj8520
      @andrewj8520 4 года назад +28

      Considering they screwed their backers and anyone else who values human rights (such as TB) by taking the Tencent handout, he'd probably be condemning it. Also RIP TB.

    • @andrewj8520
      @andrewj8520 4 года назад +5

      @joseaca paying for or profiting from one is the same as supporting the other

    • @svendays
      @svendays 4 года назад +13

      I'm almost positive TB would boycott this game simply on principle alone. The developer pulled a total bait-and-switch with their kickstarter shenanigans. He probably would talk about how much he wanted to play it, but he simply couldn't and it sucks (that he can't play it).

  • @PKDionysus
    @PKDionysus 4 года назад +1

    00:50-1:00 reminded just why I love Karak's reviews so damn much!
    😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
    "BANG BANG BANG!!!!"

  • @jothain
    @jothain 4 года назад +34

    I dunno. I was expecting a lot from this title when I initially heard about it and what it was going to be. Now this looks way too much like xcom to me. I'm more interested in Xenonauts 2 even though it's going to offer pretty much same as before. But it did it well..

    • @AEGISDEFENSE
      @AEGISDEFENSE 4 года назад +2

      jothain xenonauts 1 was awesome. I agree with you here.

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 4 года назад +5

      I have loved X-Com since the first game but this is not as engaging as the X-Com series. I pre-ordered this game in June this year and am very dissapointed of how it turned out, I played it for some time and never felt like I was invested in the story or the gameplay. Besides the graphics leave alot to be desired, there are indie games out right now that were made for a lot less money that look much better than this and yes gfx isn't everything but like I said, the gameplay isnt much either. I never felt challenged strategically and never feared for my soldiers lives, it was just meh.
      I dont think I'll back another video game project like this again.

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 4 года назад +3

      Phoenix Point is intended to be a spiritual successor to the original X-COM in 1994. both created by Julian Gollop

    • @jothain
      @jothain 4 года назад +1

      @@kmeanxneth Indeed, I know. That's the reason I'm bit disappointed and I love Xenonauts so much as it's very faithful to original Enemy Unknown. This looks almost carbon copy of newer X-Com games. They're ok and believe me I've completed them all. But these newer ones just feel bit shallow. I would've hoped that Xenonauts 2 would've copied base game mechanics from Apocalypse where original TU system was in place and but it was possible to switch to real-time combat too. It was very close to idea solution imo. It was especially good when trying to find that last hidden enemy. At one point Xenonauts 2 I think was going to implement something like this, but afaik it has been ditched because lack of time and resources. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't looked too much into it as I don't want to spoil game before getting it.

  • @chrisb364
    @chrisb364 4 года назад +1

    I do wish more of these games (tactical squad turn based strategy games specifically) did allow you to at least aim more with your characters. I remember playing Valkyria Chronicles years ago and thinking "man, I really wish more of these games similar to this and XCOM had this mechanic"

  • @Dr.Strangelewd
    @Dr.Strangelewd 4 года назад +53

    UI/HUD in the game is atrocious, reminds me of cheap mobile games.

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 4 года назад +1

      What has in your opinion a better HUD or UI? Just wondering what part of the aesthetic people dont like so much

    • @willdall4
      @willdall4 4 года назад +6

      i don't really see how they could do much better with that though, it has all the information you need when it comes to the tactical gameplay; abilities, characters, items, objectives etc. its just a product of the genre

    • @lamezorlord
      @lamezorlord 4 года назад +4

      @@willdall4 Its way too busy and has too much information with layers on layers of info boxes. If you design a game with mechanics that require that many UI elements, especially when you cant fit them all in adequately or easily on screen, then youve failed at something in the process. Lets compare this with the closest "cometition" being xcom 2. UI in that is simple and smooth. Easy to navigate and easy to remember. You had everyhing you needed at a glance. Ammo, turn count, combat options visibility and hit chances. When you zoom to attack an enemy, UI changed to show more details on the specific enemy. Further info like status effects could be opened when needed. Here, its all on screen. For example: why have all the units with portraits and moves left on the UI (especially when targetting). Its irrelevant and can as easily deliver the needed info with a "4/7" for the units still available in its spot. At a glance, I cant tell what is going on there and why some shots seem to hit and some miss, without hit chances being shown (or what passes for them in the game mechanics). Same with the map mode etc. Too much clutter, not enough defined distinction between each bit. So I would challenge the notion that its a product of the genre. Its a product of overdesign.

  • @ChrisBires
    @ChrisBires 4 года назад +42

    It's on GamePass? Time to resubscribe...

    • @nevermore_howl1638
      @nevermore_howl1638 4 года назад

      Same here, I was planning to for Halo Reach but this is something worth playing too.

    • @izorion6443
      @izorion6443 4 года назад +3

      Great news, but i'm not seeing it yet.

    • @facehugger8995
      @facehugger8995 4 года назад +4

      I don't see it in gamepass for pc

    • @nevermore_howl1638
      @nevermore_howl1638 4 года назад

      @@facehugger8995 Apparently it's on gamepass Q1 2020 from what I could gather.

    • @nevermore_howl1638
      @nevermore_howl1638 4 года назад

      I could still be wrong though, that may be the Xbox one & PS4 release dates.

  • @VirtualRealityOasis
    @VirtualRealityOasis 4 года назад +14

    Excellent review as always! Really appreciate your content mate []-)

  • @Jasta85
    @Jasta85 4 года назад +3

    Woohoo, didn't know if this game would get an ACG review or not, so happy it is.

  • @dushikorsou1
    @dushikorsou1 4 года назад +7

    If you said this was just a xcom 2 mod i would believe you....

  • @PedroSouza-hm6wj
    @PedroSouza-hm6wj 4 года назад +2

    One thing i wish reviewers do is use hawrdware that is more common, go to the steam hardware survey and check out the the GPUs and processors that are more popular, and include in the review the performance on those hardwares, i mean, it's no use knowing if the game is good if you can't run it on the first place, and not everybody has a 2080 ti and a 9900k.

    • @vHiddenAce
      @vHiddenAce 4 года назад

      Why don't you just look at the game's minimum requirements and recommended specs?

    • @PedroSouza-hm6wj
      @PedroSouza-hm6wj 4 года назад +1

      ​@@vHiddenAce have you ever seen a game where the minimum and recomended specs are a good indication of how well the game will run?

  • @aerohydra3849
    @aerohydra3849 4 года назад +5

    Hmm it sounds really intriguing as a fan of XCOM and tactical games like that, and the story looks really unique as well. Unfortunately there is a lack of polish so I maybe will wait for some more updates. But I think if they get the game up to snuff, I'll definitely enjoy it.

  • @sortedevaras
    @sortedevaras 4 года назад +4

    Might pick this up when it releases on PC next year.

  • @Bandoolero
    @Bandoolero 4 года назад +3

    if it wasn't made by that OG guy, this would be called just an XCOM clone xD

    • @stefan1360
      @stefan1360 4 года назад +1

      @@nilsingvar7319 just because someone made the first game doesn't necessarily mean they will always make a better thing that those after then. Xcom 2 still looks miles better than this.

  • @samsonmiller4922
    @samsonmiller4922 4 года назад +1

    Just wanted to say thank you for your continued work in a space were it's so hard to find honest opinions. Thank you.

  • @deadraque
    @deadraque 4 года назад +17

    Oh epic exclusive.... not gone happen! Guess it's gone be a free one then!

    • @Sixfootdig
      @Sixfootdig 4 года назад

      Do you know what exclusive means?

    • @deadraque
      @deadraque 4 года назад +4

      @@Sixfootdig You know very well what we are talking about even if the wording doesn't suit your arrogance! You want to be duped, be my guest! Hoodlum made it a little less EXCLUSIVE!

    • @Sixfootdig
      @Sixfootdig 4 года назад +1

      @@deadraque dumb shit, assholes like you just need an excuse to pirate. Also, im not arrogant, its not my fault you don't know what exclusive means.

  • @cord113
    @cord113 8 месяцев назад

    Second time watching this vid as I've been thinking about picking this up for a while now. Just saw that the Complete Edition is in a GOG sale at the moment, so I'll at least add it to my collection. Thanks for the review. :)

  • @VashGames
    @VashGames 4 года назад +2

    Welcome to the fight. We nicknamed the virus "Filth" and us of the secret world have been fighting them for ages. XD. Beware the siren song!

  • @AlexMoscow9mmpr
    @AlexMoscow9mmpr 4 года назад +18

    Welcome back Karak. We missed ya!

  • @bjorn970
    @bjorn970 4 года назад +6

    So all issues are probably gonna be patched out once it releases on Steam. Perfect!

  • @mrfivegold
    @mrfivegold 4 года назад +14

    I won’t get this game even if it was the best in years. Don’t support China, don’t support EPIC!

  • @milkapeismilky5464
    @milkapeismilky5464 3 года назад

    " the less children thrown into the sun trying to atone" I literally spit apple cider all over the wall

  • @hyosunggt125rcomet
    @hyosunggt125rcomet 4 года назад

    Pros:
    1. Can be fun at times.
    Cons:
    1. There is no clear objective to the storyline, not sure how to progress.
    2. Base is attacked daily (Repetitive and very boring)
    3. Lairs are near impossible by the 3rd one
    4. You could spend a day just doing a day on this game due to amount of attacks on alliance groups that fight each other more than the real enemy
    5.Terrain is difficult at times to understand what is cover
    Bugs:
    1. when using grendes or rockets you have to keep mouse still when you click on action or it will double click and fire next to you
    2. Certain actions result in the current selected solider to become deselected

  • @Buckdodgers
    @Buckdodgers 4 года назад

    EXCELLENT REVIEW!!! I love the cut of your jib and your commentary style!!! You just got a new sub!!!

  • @nexarath
    @nexarath 4 года назад +4

    Wow, they straight up nicked that "humans going into the water and coming back out as mutant zombie crab hybrids" bit out of The Secret World.

    • @vorben7826
      @vorben7826 4 года назад +2

      i mean, you think that was the first thing to do human alien, hybrids?

    • @ACGreviews
      @ACGreviews  4 года назад +3

      Man Secret World is amazing

    • @nexarath
      @nexarath 4 года назад +1

      @@ACGreviews Yeah man, fantastic game. Too bad it takes Funcom an age to come out with new content, and frankly everything past Tokyo kinda sucked :/
      @Vorben No, of course not. But explicitly using the Cthulu-esque bit of sea creatures luring humans out to sea with the tide just for them to later mutate and be used as incubators or enforcers in their army is literally straight up out of SW from memory. Still, it's a cool twist on the standard Pied Piper trope as ACG said, so all good here.
      BTW, thanks ACG, this game would have totally flown under my radar, somehow never caught wind of it before I saw this review!

    • @MaxGideonActor
      @MaxGideonActor 4 года назад +4

      Read The Shadow Out of Innsmouth by H.P. Lovecraft, 1930s. Plus bunch of others with related themes. And he got inspiration from the writers of earlier works, and so on... ...

    • @nexarath
      @nexarath 4 года назад

      @@MaxGideonActor I know man, they did say at Funcom that they borrowed heavily from both Poe and Lovecraft for their first few areas in the game. Just saying, in videogame terms, that was the first such concept I could find and it seems to be present here as well in that exact form.

  • @heroicgoo915
    @heroicgoo915 3 года назад

    @ 5:55 "...wade into the sea & FQ a bunch o crabs....!" Absolutely CLASSIC line!!!!!

  • @AnaxofRhodes
    @AnaxofRhodes 4 года назад +1

    Why do XCOM games and Phoenix Point all have really, REALLY slow and clunky processing? I'd really appreciate some faster load times between turns and don't have a clue as to why it's not possible or prioritized in these games.

  • @CeleryMan666
    @CeleryMan666 4 года назад +11

    Epic games? That's always a deep deep sale when it come to steam.

  • @TheBlueDeath123
    @TheBlueDeath123 4 года назад +1

    Quite glad I did not hop on the early access wagon. While I like XCOM a lot, it is a rare blend of humor, balance, challenge, fairness and great implementation.

  • @bmagada
    @bmagada 4 года назад +8

    Not having multiplayer is a ding against it? Really?

  • @zlarez4485
    @zlarez4485 4 года назад +11

    Single player games dont need multiplayer. I find that a bad point

    • @allmight9840
      @allmight9840 4 года назад

      Why? If they have no multiplayer then they can focus on the game instead of spreading themselves too thin. Scope creep

    • @zlarez4485
      @zlarez4485 4 года назад +3

      @@allmight9840exactly what I'm saying

  • @MINERAL-115
    @MINERAL-115 4 года назад

    Holy crap. It really is a UFO:Aftershock remake. The early geoscape stuff I saw suggested it was heavily influenced by UFO:A (itself inspired by the original X-Com), but I didn't expect it to be quite so 'on the nose'; the soldier levelling, faction concept, resources and majority of the geoscape portion of the game (including the spread of a hostile environmental hazard; mist in this, Biomass in UFO:AM) are all lifted almost 1:1 from the first two UFO games.
    I love that Phoenix Point is effectively a "mash-up" - the shooting mechanics from Valkyria Chronicles are very welcome here - but honestly was expecting something more; pretty much every element of the game can be attributed to being a slightly modified version of a mechanic from another game in this genre. Hopefully the DLCs will add some unique elements.
    At least they've got a year to get it developed and fix the dodgy low resolution textures and placeholder flyover text; it's very clear this has been released as a 'public beta' to come out in for the holidays - I'll be treating the steam release as "v1.0", personally.

  • @johnharder2925
    @johnharder2925 4 года назад +3

    I appreciate your Ableton reference.
    Cheers, Karak.

  • @micc98
    @micc98 4 года назад +10

    after what they did to their initial backers - left a sour taste in my mouth, hard pass.

    • @ECSizemore
      @ECSizemore 4 года назад

      Zaar757 what did they do ?

    • @joaobatistaperinjunior953
      @joaobatistaperinjunior953 4 года назад +1

      @@ECSizemore They used the backers as a bargain chip to sell their game to epic, after they got the deal they spit on them saying "We don't care about refunds, Even if every single backer get a refund, we would still be on the green"

  • @gloo1630
    @gloo1630 4 года назад +3

    It really does seem kind of unfinished, even for $40. Hopefully a ton of patches come out to fix it

  • @Swarm069
    @Swarm069 4 года назад +52

    epic exclusive...lol pass.

    • @Sixfootdig
      @Sixfootdig 4 года назад

      Its not, as he stated its on Microsoft store.

    • @Mustang1984
      @Mustang1984 4 года назад +8

      also a hoodlum exclusive.

    • @adr.k8676
      @adr.k8676 4 года назад

      @@Mustang1984 yessir but this looks garbage

    • @Redridge07
      @Redridge07 4 года назад

      @Swarm069 Growup!!

  • @Spinnekk
    @Spinnekk 4 года назад +1

    Interesting timing with this... I just bought the XCOM 2 Collection yesterday. I might have to check this out someday.

  • @DocDoesGamingTV
    @DocDoesGamingTV 4 года назад +4

    I'd really like this on Switch or something, playing strategy games in bed is my niche

    • @ufuk5872
      @ufuk5872 4 года назад

      Oh no this game will run 20fps on the switch and set it on fire. The optimization is awful

  • @CastledCard
    @CastledCard 3 года назад

    The tactical level gameplay looks like an overhaul mod for Xcom 2

  • @fconstraints
    @fconstraints 4 года назад +4

    New Jericho sounds like some cool dudes

  • @terskatti4994
    @terskatti4994 4 года назад +15

    Hopefully it comes to steam later because i ain't installing epic or microsoft store turds.

    • @Redridge07
      @Redridge07 4 года назад +1

      @dsfsfda dsfsdfsd Growup!!

    • @2killzore
      @2killzore 4 года назад

      Some people get fed farts from an early age and they become self deceived.

  • @joshgarcia4859
    @joshgarcia4859 4 года назад

    Cadiz Hinterthumperbrow. Best trooper name ever! 20:18

  • @Isvoor
    @Isvoor 3 года назад +1

    One thing that bears mentioning about this game that there's not only 7 different classes, but multiclasses for a total of 21 different class combinations. To me, the progression system initially seemed much more boring compared to XCOM (2), but with 3 unique perks for every soldier (which can even unlock proficiencies for new weapons), multiclassing and everything you can do with inventory and equipment, it's up there. It opens you up to a lot.

  • @nopoint2427
    @nopoint2427 4 года назад +2

    Just play Xenonauts or wait for its sequel, fair superior game and its Devs don't screw its backers.

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 2 года назад +1

    I've arranged to send my original X-Com manual over to Julian for an autograph - waiting for covid to stop its madness first 😤

    • @RoboBreaker
      @RoboBreaker 11 месяцев назад +1

      Imaginary nothingburger, nothing happened

  • @Wolfsheim23
    @Wolfsheim23 4 года назад +1

    competition is always good, if it wasn't for EPIC we'd still be limited on Steam to only one family member being allowed to play a game at one time. I HATED having to take turns letting my wife play Divinity OS2 even though she had her own PC. It forced one of us to play at a time.

  • @yescommander2458
    @yescommander2458 4 года назад +3

    I'm a huge XCOM fan from the OG game onward, and have almost 2,000 hours logged in XCOM 2 thanks to the amazing modding community. As much as I'd like to check this one out to see Gollop's newest take on saving the planet, I'm anti-Epic and I don't appreciate his decision to take the exclusivity deal. The fact that it's available through GamePass doesn't change the fact that he decided to go exclusive AFTER crowdfunding. I'm gonna pass on this one, might pick it up on GOG in 2035...

  • @michaelsedzikowski3669
    @michaelsedzikowski3669 4 года назад

    I use Phoenix Point OST as a lullaby. It works.

  • @andrewj8520
    @andrewj8520 4 года назад +2

    Considering they screwed over their backers and anyone else who values human rights by taking the Tencent handout, these guys and this game can pound sand.

    • @SaintSC05
      @SaintSC05 4 года назад

      Violating human rights? That's a little extreme isn't it?

    • @andrewj8520
      @andrewj8520 4 года назад +1

      @@SaintSC05 look into tencent and get back to me

    • @SaintSC05
      @SaintSC05 4 года назад

      @@andrewj8520 What human rights are they violating?

    • @andrewj8520
      @andrewj8520 4 года назад +2

      @@SaintSC05 Well they're the financiers and architects of the "great firewall of china" suppressing the free speech over more than a billion people every day on behalf of the Chinese government and they're implementing the most Orwellian, intrusive, oppressive and communistic social engineering scheme the world has ever seen in their "Social Credit" system, for starters. They're already using these systems to track and profile uyghur muslims so they can be captured and imprisoned by the Chinese government (1-3 million so far) for "re-education," if they're lucky and if not, organ harvesting. And now they're wriggling their tendrils into our society, culture and economy in order to better manipulate us in the future. They're already starting to monopolize our entertainment options and methods with EGS and censoring our views through their stake in reddit and they're just getting started over here.

    • @SaintSC05
      @SaintSC05 4 года назад

      @@andrewj8520 Oh damn

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire 4 года назад +13

    Wait for Steam sale.

    • @alexdeluca2475
      @alexdeluca2475 4 года назад

      Not going to happen epic gamestore and microsoft exclusive for 1 year for pc

  • @Art0r1a
    @Art0r1a 4 года назад +3

    Is 4K, 60 FPS with a mix of High and Low really what we should expect with a 2080 Ti?
    Maybe it's just me, but that seems a little silly

    • @dushikorsou1
      @dushikorsou1 4 года назад

      Well xcom 2 was really heavy on launch it just ain't a great engine.

    • @Art0r1a
      @Art0r1a 4 года назад +8

      @@dushikorsou1 Not my point.
      Do we really say that a game's performance is good if a 2080 Ti - the most expensive video card - can run it at 60 FPS?
      That's just plain dumb. So if the most expensive card can run it, then the performance is good and we don't care about 90% of the people who have cheaper cards?

  • @mellyell
    @mellyell 4 года назад +1

    Finding out that ACG did a review on a game you were interested in... Priceless. Welp maybe not priceless but definitely awesome!!

  • @Carsickness86
    @Carsickness86 4 года назад +1

    Will work great as an xcloud game. Latency doesn’t matter on turn based games!

  • @alblaka8852
    @alblaka8852 4 года назад +2

    Ah right... and here I was wondering why I wasn't keeping tabs on the game anymore... Epic Store. Thanks for the reminder at 1:10

  • @khanayudash2475
    @khanayudash2475 4 года назад +1

    I disagree on multiplayer - XCOM 2 has a multiplayer mode, if you didn't know, and it's not exactly beloved.

  • @MrBurnlan
    @MrBurnlan 4 года назад +4

    this had some good ideas, fireaxis should hire some of the designers for XCOM3

  • @devBadgerJ
    @devBadgerJ 4 года назад +1

    Dude I'm pissed, RUclips keeps setting things away from "All' notifications. I almost missed this.
    Wasn't even on my main page. Had to scroll through subscriptions.