MASSIVE! The Snapmaker Artisan is HUGE
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- I finally have my hands on the @Snapmaker Artisan - a 3-in-1 digital fabrication device with a 400 x 400 x 400 work area! Let's get it assembled, and test each of the 3 functions!
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Hey Joel, Nice video again.
I think you've mounted the collet upside down in the CNC spindle.
If you flip it, you'll gain even more accuracy because the mill will wobble less.
I want to use my snapmaker more. I love the machine!
Hi 5 Joel !!! Thanks for what you do for the 3d community
High five! Thank YOU for watching!
Wow, cool machine!
Does the enclosure have a bottom, or is the "bottom" just whatever the machine is sitting on?
The hotend swapping is next level.
It's really handy!
Might be cool if they made an attachment which would place electronic components for circuit board assembly. Maybe a little gripper that could pick up resistors, capcitors and microchips from a belt of components near the side of the build volume.
A pick and place machine add-on module eh?
That would allow you to selectively etch your board with the laser module, route it with the CNC module, populate it with a pick and place module and then print an enclosure with the extruder module.
Actually not a terrible idea.
@@charmio and then a print bed that heats so much it will act as a reflow oven. :)
Cool machine, cool size..
Dont even think i would want my garden shed that dusty!!! must get with 100% extraction!!
Yes let’s go mine has been delivered going to assemble it next week 🎉
Nice bro! I’m excited for you!
@@BetterCFLOPThank you, I have been saving my nickels, for my small workshop this is a whole class of machine above anything else I own. ❤
@@MakerBees333 Of course man! This will definitely upgrade your workshop. Best of luck!
I have the Snapmaker 2.0 and love it, but man is this thing cool its huge!
SO SO HUGE. Like, takes up a full table!
Same boat, Got me a Snapmaker 2.0 back in the kickstarter days, still using to this day and no issues with it, solid machine.
I have it too and I regret buying it. The 3d printing quality (I own the single and dual extruder) is really bad. If you consider the price of the modules and the machine itself, it really feels bad. Especially nowadays where you can get a Bambu Lab X1C with an AMS.
I have mounted on my cr10 a laser and 3d printing and laser cutting go hand in hand with a good enclosure it's really cool, I've tried light CNC milling but I desisted because it would get my enclosure all dirty from the sawdust and I can't really see how this could work out unless you got a powerful vacuum attached to significantly reduce the dust scattered in the enclosure, I do like the convenience space-wise tho
I am super stoked to try the new 40w laser upgrade coming soon according to Snapmaker, hello glass and acrylics. 😊
Good choice!
Please stay tuned!
@@Snapmaker Absolutely ‼️ ❤️. If you want someone to test it out for you 😎👍. Feel free to let me know 😊.
I’ve been doing a lot of research on laser cutting lately. Make sure that acrylic is dark to cut it. If you just want to etch it you can use special black paint. Remember to ALWAYS wear glasses and use proper ducting to remove that air! As for the cnc machine. Definitely be careful with that too. Glasses and mask rated for sawdust are key. Otherwise, have fun and keep making!
@@kloelind1935 absolutely, I have a fully flushed out woodworking shop, lathe, bandsaw etc and Yes 💯‼️ always appreciate eyewear. Even when the machines aren’t running, that’s when the particles spring to life and fall in love with your eyes.
One of my favorite features of this Snapmaker set up is that the panels for the enclosure are rated for the wavelength of the laser it run! That’s an under rated and appreciated safety feature I have not see on any other desktop Laser setup in this price range.
Dinky shrouds don’t cut it, full enclosure plus safety glasses. That way I don’t have to worry about blinding the dogs or kids because they sneak out to the garage. It was a huge point when I decided on Snapmaker.
Thanks for the video, Joel! I'm curious to see if you could use Lightburn to do the laser engraving/cutting on the Artisan.
YES you can!
I have a snapmaker a d I printed a vacuum attachment so I can remove the dust the while machining.
Im not a fan of 3 in 1. But cant wait see your full take on it. I rather have 3 separate machines. It seems like a pain to clean after using as a cnc then switching 3d printer.
I have to agree with you. I like the idea on paper but in an actual work flow that would need say two or all three functions requires a lot of thorough cleaning involved. Laser and 3d printing might work decently together but mixing in CNC with either of those just doesn't.
And let's remember, that's not a cheap 3 in 1 option!
Also the print quality is really bad. For a price point of ~400-500$, this is just bad. Seperate machines is definitely the way to go.
Great introductory video, Joel! I have had my Artisan since CES when I picked up the one there. I'm most impressed by the increased length of bottles I can engrave with the rotarty module. I still have my snapmaker 2.0, but this thing has become my new workhorse. Have you tried the vibration compensation firmware?
Hey! No I haven’t not yet!
@3DPrintingNerd it may be worth a comparison! I've only ever had it on while printing, but I know they shipped with the older firmware.
For the cnc part, can the machine work in MDI? Did I hear .2mm accuracy? What does it refer too? Positionnal tolerance on the 3 axis? Spindle runout?
Machining a 25mm wide block might measure 24.80 to 25.20? Thanks for the awesome review!
I own the snapmaker J1. I'm looking for a review on the J1, how to only use the right extruder, seems like left side is automatic default, also kinda junk you have to manually select back up mode, it Does Not automatically switch spools when one runs out., If you don't have the setting on , it will detect empty roll and then stop. I love how the snapmakers are built, high quality material and looks and feels great. I need to learn more about my J1 and now I'm looking into then laser and cnc machines.
I just bought a snapmaker 2.0 last year and so far I've only done some prints. This is mainly due to the pain of switching out the various tooling heads. I pre-ordered the quick-swap for the tool heads and I am so stoked to use it. Unfortunately we have to wait until September to get it, but it will make the machine just easier to use and I am excited for it.
I really wish I knew they were coming out with new printers though like the Artisan, I might have held off and bought it this year instead of the 2.0 but it is what it is. It'd be nice if they provided some sort of upgrade path to go from 2.0 to artisan. Especially if it prints faster, that is my number one complaint so far is it takes forever to print something. It'd be nice if we could upgrade the steppers or rails to faster ones without having to buy a whole new machine. But I am happy that I get the quick swap which will make the other tools so much more useful. I guess we will see what Snapmaker does in the future.
100%. I got my Snapmaker 2.0 A250 not long ago. It's fantastic machine, but swapping the toolheads is fiddly and annoying, especially because, in my case, the machine is in a place in my small shop where I can't open the side door of the enclosure (and that's the only place where I have room to put it). I came up with a little trick that makes it slightly easier, but it's still a pain. 3D printing isn't fast, but my results have been very good with PLA. PETG is taking me some time to dial in. I get quite a bit of stringing, but that's maybe just the nature of PETG. I haven't tried other materials yet. I have the dual-extruder tool head, but I haven't set it up yet. I'm going to set it up probably today, as I've managed to clog the nozzle on the single-extruder head twice so far. I've had some trouble with leveling the print bed that I haven't figured out yet after I changed the hot end on the single extruder head. Maybe I've misaligned something? I don't know, and I haven't asked about it on the forums yet. I haven't tried the CNC function yet. I'm waiting for the quick-swap kit and to 3D print a dust collection boot to hook up to my shop dust collection system so I don't fling dust everywhere in the enclosure. Despite it's small annoyances, I'm really loving playing around with it. It's my first 3D printer and laser cutter/engraver. 3D printing is amazing; I'm enjoying creating and searching for designs of things to make for organizing my shop and around the house.
Ditto. I have the A350 and only used the plastic extruder for almost a year, because of how tedious it is to change out the head and beds due to all the screws.
I did finally try the laser and found the tiny watt laser that comes with the A350 is nearly pointless. I upgraded to the 10W laser and it makes a world of difference.
Still have not tried CNC due to the psychological barrier of screw gymnastics.
I recently ordered the quick change set and waiting for it to arrive to make switching tools worthwhile.
Has no one sent you any snacks lately, Joel? You are looking healthier than ever. :)
I've always loved the idea of the Snapmaker machines, but have always had serious doubts that any of the 3 things it does, it does well enough to get one. Seems like a great tool for someone with not enough space for 3 different machines, and who wants to learn how to make stuff with all 3 types, but doesn't mind that each of those 3 things it just does, "OK" with. As someone who used to teach laser cutting on very expensive machines, and has been 3D printing for about 20 years, the quality I need for what I do is just too high for this.
But it's always great to get your take on these. Thanks for yet another awesome video! High-5!
hahaha, well shoot, thanks for noticing :)
I think each of the 3 functions are done well, but what's really great is the space you get to work in. Yeah, machine is quite large, but then again, it's 400 mm3 for 3d printing, then the 400 x 400 can be used for laser or cnc, and you can add on another axis for cnc. All of that, man, if you have the space...
Yo let’s go first comment! I love your videos man. I appreciate you uploading. Can’t wait to watch this video!
Amazing, can you create a project with the 3 functions (laser, CNC, and 3Dprint) ?
One of the best warning labels ever: Lasers!
PEW PEW PEW
Hey did you cut into the waste board in the first place?
I have the Artisan and love it. I have lots of printers that are much faster but quality of prints on the Artisan are awesome. They just came out with a 40w laser module, I will be picking one of those up soon.
Glad to hear you like yours! I heard about that new laser module - wow! I do have a project coming soon I did on my Artisan, cannot wait for you to see it.
Waiting for my 40-watt as well!
My guess on this machine is: Jack of all trades, Master of none!
So far, I'm impressed with the 3d printing ability. I know it can laser and cnc, I just don't have as much experience there.
This is very true.
Are the brass nozzles not changeable by themselves? You have to buy an entire assembly?
(On the Snapmaker 2 the hot end is just 10 bucks and the nozzle is removeable/replaceable.)
you can also just remove the nozzle, but have to change nozzle size in Luban manually. If you buy the entire hotend, it will update automatically. So just a QoL feature for some $.
I have the older Snapmaker A350 which also has the 3 functions. However the CNC is less powered and the laser that came with it was less powered but I did buy the 10w laser. The 3D Print head is just the single, however, a lot of reviews of the dual print head the users had issues. I bought my Snapmaker on eBay from someone who really had no idea what they were doing. I had to replace the heated print bed, the LCD screen and one of the rails. So, yes, it dod cost me money to get the parts but far less than the $1400.00 as I bought it for $300 and the parts were about $350 so $650 vs. $1400 was a great deal. Since then I think the A350is now at $899 or something like that. The A350s had some issues with the frame that hold it to not be level BUT I bought a glass print surface and I manually level and the issue was solved at a $60 cost for the glass bed that matches the large print volume. I also bought the rotary CNC which is actually really cool. Overall the prior Snapmaker is pretty good, but its a bed slinger so rather slow although I do run it at 80mm/s vs. Luban's default of 50mm/s and it seems to do well at that faster speed. I don't really need the newer Artisan since I have now gone Voron and I prefer Corexy.
Seems like a great tool for a maker space or a school.
EXACTLY. I think something like this is great for a school or makerspace!
@@3DPrintingNerd I often avoid multi purpose tools they always seem to be bad at all of them. But this seems like a pretty well thought out tool.
Hi, I noticed when you held the spindle in your hand that it had a FAN?, on the back of it. What is the failure rate on that being that the dust will fill that fan in about 20 seconds. Just curious if that really was a fan. Thx, Have always liked the IDEA of the snap maker but really have not noticed anyone in the community using them, and they have been around now for years.
I'll keep an eye on that opening. I don't think it's a fan, but more of an exhaust for the air that is generated by the spindle spinning. I'll definitely keep an eye on it.
Awesome video brother! Quite informative and funny as well. Must say really enjoyed that! I’m in the market for the artisan, how has it been?
Joel, as long as it makes you smile, then it is ok.
THANK YOU
Got it
Do you maybe know what power supply (wattage) they use?
Won't not heating the exterior of the bed cause warping???
Very nice looking machine. I'll be interested to hear the pricing.
I've always wondered about these 3-in-1 solutions. Aren't you at risk of lots of dust or other particles getting on your 3d prints over time (seems like it will be tricky to clean up all the CnC mess)?
Also, I'm not a CnC guy, but shouldn't you put a bit of waste board between the clamping surface and the part you're cutting? Otherwise you'll tear up that CnC bed, and you're at risk of running a CnC bit into one of the metal inserts?
The CNC bed IS the waste board. They give you instructions on how to replace it when it's time.
QUESTION.... WILL THIS GO UP TO 40W BEACAUS ITS BEST TO HAVE AND NOT NEED..................?
1:17 glad you're not the turd the turd 😊
Try double-sided tape instead of tabs
Works good on snap 2.0 with clean finish
OMG YES! Great idea!
@@3DPrintingNerd Not my idea more like a general CNC trick I saw somewhere, but yeah you might have to experiment with different tapes, and there's still a chance a part goes flying around if the tape isn't strong enough. Sometimes there's little glue residues on the edges, but comes off easily with alcohol
A cosplayer's dream machine!
TRUTH. That and a hot glue gun :)
I just want to know how it handles bed leveling for printing
It uses nozzle touch to level the bed!
Very funny how close the 3D printing bed and tool head are to Ultimaker. Lawsuit incoming? 🤣
The quick swap does feel familiar, but the bed too? I didn't know UM had beds like this.
Another great video Joel! Can you send me a link to a Joel Bot stl? Or maybe place a link to download a joel bot in your video description.
I'm a bit sad to only see 3 quite small projects. Would have been cooler to see something that incorporated all tree functions for one final result. Still cool to see how advanced it seems to be even though I have no interest in CNC or lasers 😅
Well, sure, that's coming. I wanted to introduce the machine in my shop and make sure I could use all three functions first. A project using all three is in the works :)
@@3DPrintingNerd Glad to hear, I'm interested to what comes. I've got a feeling you have some good idea in mind ☺
Will this cnc engrave metal?
Um... I'm not sure. I think it depends on the metal, yeah?
yeah the glass plate is so shiny, you can see all the fingy marks on it haha
Those were the added effects BUT they did look like smudges!
Since you are not fully into laser but seem interested perhaps checkout the Elegoo Phecda. Myself i am still waiting on my order but also have an xtool D1 Pro that i use
Thanks for the tip!
@@3DPrintingNerd Is the least i can do, you have helped so much over the years and started my interest in 3d printing
This is the sort of thing I would buy except for one tiny problem, I would try out the CNC and the laser upon delivery and then only use it as a 3d printer.
I think there are a LOT of people that do that, heh. However, I have a project coming up that'll use all three and I'm excited to get it done!
@@3DPrintingNerd I am looking forward to seeing that 👍
How do I get snap maker money on a dollar tree lego budget?
Ill wait for my Prusa XL (thank you very much).
Learn from my injury, and always remove your cutting tool before doing ANYTHING in the enclosure or removing the tool head. It inly takes a fraction of a second to slice your hand open on the cutting tool.
It still sounds like a tornado in a hurricane and costs twice as much as other printers, right?
Hmm, mine is not loud.
First CNC and clean 3D printing will be gone forever
Nah, vacuum for the win!
ive never liked the idea of these combo printers. i get that its like, hey youve got a motion system already why would you buy a new motion system for a different process when you could just change the toolhead, but...there are very good reasons why you would want a different motion system! especially with cnc where there are lateral forces on the toolhead
I get the idea, but I think Snapmaker is the most ideal of the motion systems to do this sort of 3-in-1 functionality. The motion system is quite rigid. Plus, the CNC isn't doing anything massive, it's more about detail. Continued use will definitely tell us more about whether this is a good idea or not, but for me, I'm excited to use it.
I bought a snapmaker.
Let me be the last damn fool toget suckered.
Idk if I'd call this a 3 in 1 machine, more like a 2.5 in 1. The "milling" capability should be marketed as routing at best. A 200 watt spindle is small but usable. What isn't particularly useable is a 0.2mm (5 thou) accuracy. That being said, the price of about $3k isn't insane for something that can print, laser, and route. I just take some umbridge qith the "milling" marketing.
I don't know too much about milling yet, but thank you for your comment. I really hope to play with the milling more!
@@3DPrintingNerd I very much encourage you to do just that! Learning new things is fun! I think this particular machine does have some cool capabilities and even seeing a router built into a hobbyist machine like this represents a great way to get introduced into the world of subtractive manufacturing. Hopefully it does a good job of letting additive and subtractive processes complement each other.
Assembly whats that lol
Interesting machine one that can brake the market, to bad it’s so expensive. I know it’s not only a 3d printer and you pay for 3 in 1 machine but still it’s not affordable for all people
Oh god... that poor cnc platform. This is the same guy that is the reason every used bridgeport on earth has a destroyed deck haha.
You think anyone is letting me get close to a Bridgeport? 😂😂
Cleaning will be a nightmare to be able to get clean 3d prints. $3000 is not for everyone as you can buy each separate machine for cheaper but then you need more space for 3 machines rather than 1. Nice concept and getting the price down will help a ton but still needs to be bigger as laser engravers even have extenders to go even bigger which this cant do :(