ABANDONED CEMETERY IN THE WOODS - Who Were They? In the LaBagh Woods Forest Preserve, Chicago, ILL.
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THIS STORY:
We in the the LaBagh Woods Forest Preserve, on the northwest side of Chicago.
We found gravestones scattered all over the premises, adjacent an abandoned railroad line.
Who are these forgotten people? Are they still buried here? Or were their gravestones just dumped here?
Or worse? .......Newer family homes are just yards away.
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Some are famous.
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My great great great grandfather is buried in a little graveyard in the woods. The churxh i've learned burned down around 1903 or 1904. The was left to be forgotten. People built a home next to the graveyard. The homeowners took it upon themselves to mow the grass(?) and weed whacked where needed. These are good human beings. We learned who we could tell, were veterans. Every Memorial day we place flags on the graves. A total opposite of this terrible situation you exposed Ron.
Bless them!!!! Bravo!
It's so sad. It's disgusting that development can move the dead. Cemeteries are sacred. Where i used to live there's a building off a bluff and when renovations were done on the grounds human bones were found. It's said back in the day they knew it was a cemetery and supposedly moved the bodies. It's just wrong!
Has anyone checked with Montrose Cemetery office to see if the graves of these individuals are at the current cemetery?
I believe they moved quite a few for a London high-speed railway when it was being built in 2017, 60,000 bodies to be exhumed, St James Gardens, 1790 to 1853. There was a campaign to stop it , 500 trees for the chop too, phase 1 at Eustan Station went through, to be all finished by 2026. Money always comes before people, always has. Sad.
after watching these types of videos... it makes me realize you're dead and no longer are important to society... why spend 15k on a funeral? and you shouldn't be... your body wont contribute anything dead... life goes own, even if you don't lol... that respect to the dead bs is nothing but a ploy for the govt to make money, why should a dead persons family have to pay a death tax and etc? maybe there is a heaven maybe there's a hell... what does the body care about either tho? that being said... it doesn't matter what happens to a body during death, they're dead and don't know anything...
@@malcolmkeith816 would you want your body treated like that?
My elementary school was built over a cemetery, so they say. It always bothered me.
Would love to see Brittan start his own channel and follow up on this. He seems truly passionate about it.
Yessss he's good I would tune in and watch him as well☺️
Or at the very least, team up with Ron for research & exploring! ❤️
This is disrespectful and a disgrace. Who owns the property, now? Can't someone clean it up? Thanks Ron & Brittan
Please continue that story/investigation. There are probably so many places like that. Makes me not want to be buried!! Wow!!!
Should get like history section of an university behind this. Montrose cemetery board should have records but if somebody covered up things years ago, which may have easily been done, its gonna be hard to prove. Maybe like ground radar thru the university could see graves? Good blessings to all. R.i.p
@@RockinStacy i found same funeral director family has owned cemetery since 1902. They maybe covered it up. Grave stones in woods are 1920s so there should be records unless state government is crooked to. I've found some living descendants hope ron starts there and not with funeral home cause they all family. If anything should get a news crew in on it. I have a feeling its a cover up job. I've sent Ron info on hagop kirishian family line.
There is a university literally two blocks away-- Northeastern University. In case you feel like starting something.
Uncle Ron! My adopted Uncle in my head! You and your adventures, knowledge and empathy of each episode. Not to mention your wonderful presentation and humanity is why you are my favorite RUclipsr! Thank you 😊 You are the journalist and great story teller of the forgotten 👏🏾.
Good evening all from stormy Texas. Hope the power stays on for this one.
This was a very interesting coverage of forgotten/abandoned graves...
Some of those markers could have been pushed over due to extreme water flow ....
I like to think that although these deceased people seemed "forgotten" .... They are in Heaven and not in pain or sadness anymore.
Thank you for caring, this is really nice of you to remember the "forgotten" 🙏
Wow! You know "some palms were greased" in this venture! The bodies are almost ALWAYS left where they were originally buried, & the markers discarded, paperwork is "edited" or simply lost, & when the people responsible are questioned, there's a whole lot of shoulder shrugging ...hopefully some of the relatives of these people can start inquiries into a possible Montrose Cemetary plot map? Or cemetary boundary markers? Maybe they could also start a few chats with the neighbors who may have dug up bodies/coffins while building their homes?
So sad, bless you both for bringing these souls some love and respect.
Hi Ron, I was excited to see where you were for this video. Your friend spoke about the old tuberculosis center. Back in 2007 I did my masters internship at North River Mental Health which is located on the grounds. It was a neat place. I also at that time lived on Montrose Ave. right by the lake. Love your content!
This was so sad, but also interesting. Could it be the stones were moved in order to make room for new houses? So sad. These people were REALLY forgotten. Thank you for bringing this to attention. 🙏🏻❤️
Gosh, thankyou Britton. Your a gem. Let’s hope this exploitation and grave desecration can be resolved and rectified. Such greed! Shame on that cemetery.
There's a real old cemetery in Southern Illinois near lake Carlyle. You have to take a path and then all of a sudden there's this old cemetery from the 1700 and 1800s untouched. I haven't Been there in over 20 years but I would love it if we could find that cemetery and clean it up... I live about 4 hours from it. Springdale Cemetery in Peoria...theres headstones laying in gully around Cemetery
This was a very mysterious and sad video. I love all the local and historical information Britain shared. It could be rather easily checked out I would think if they (the cemetery) could agree to do the ground radar. I hope all you bright sleuths will be able to get this mystery solved. Great video Ron.
I would love to see this mystery solved
This is awful. Thank you for the heads-up, Brittan! Thank you for the research, Deb! This is so damn sad and reprehensible!
Remember Labagh Woods from when I Lived on the Northwest Side,never knew that there was an abandoned cemetery there.Fascinating Story.
GreatVideo! Mr. Britton had historical background of the area and the cemeteries. Thank you so much for yourhsrd work.
This is a wonderful story on a whole different level. Keep on sending your incredible work!
Loved this episode. I’m intrigued.
This was fascinating. I had to watch it twice!
What got left behind, people or headstones or both? This is illegal in Illinois. Can someone contact the Cemetery Association in Illinois?
If money is involved....they aren't going to care.
Very cool! So mysterious! Love your spooky music!! 👻💀👻☠️
Thanks for sharing this ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING video, gentlemen!! XXXX
This is so very sad, thank you for showing them the respect they deserve ❤️ .by the way did you know you had some scary guy in your car? 😱
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Makes the movie “Poltergeist” even more relevant. Scary!
it has actually happened a lot in real life. way back when I watched the movie, I never would have imagined!!
Looks like this was a burial ground. How awful for it to be left like this. It’s really a shock to find out that something that was part of a movie plot actually happens. A lot. Especially when it’s a horror movie!
Perhaps you could try county land use records? Here, cemeteries are required to file lot maps with the county, so perhaps the county this cemetery is in has similar requirements? Or perhaps the state’s cemetery board? Or, perhaps try what researchers did in San Francisco when that little girl’s casket was found and it turned out she had been missed when the cemetery she was originally buried in was moved, which is to see if local libraries or historical societies have old lot maps?
Even old banker’s maps or Sanborn fire insurance maps might help.
It looks like Find a Grave has these burials listed as being in a cemetery. That should help the research a lot. Have you thought of perhaps contacting the individual who listed the cemetery itself on Find a Grave? Now, I’m intrigued!
Wonderful discovery ---this is the community coming together. It sounds plausible that these are at the least markers from a pauper burial site from that TB hospital mentioned
These cemeteries are everywhere. Seattle has one, same MO developers, city denying the cemetery existed, long story short, I helped try to clean up the cemetery with the Camp Fire Girls around 1960-62, so I know it existed. What was left of the cemetery was restored, but the baby section had houses built on it.
How does a town of people not notice a graveyard is gone? Didn't anyone visit these grave sights?
Much respect and admiration for ANYONE who would travel such conditions. I entered an old section of a modern cemetery in Houston and was ran out by the mosquitoes in 3mis or less(probably less).
this was fascinating! hope to see more of brittain
This just breaks my heart! Perhaps a boy scout troop could assist in cleaning up.
The smaller numbered markers could represent those buried as paupers and just assigned a number instead of being listed with a name. I've seen that many times
To everyone buried there, Rest In Peace!
The Pauper cemetery in Fort Smith Arkansas has those round type markers for graves. I think the numbered markers are marking graves and the headstones were moved there.
I am 30 minutes north of Fort Smith. Awesome place for historical stuff.
Thanks Ron- you're awesome
I would think it it were a dumping ground those headstones would be more piled up on each other instead of being spread all over the place. Very sad to see this though. So many questions.
Thanks to the both of you for this story☹️. So sad that someone didn't show respect for those that had died and the remaining families 😪
Bitton is so cute!!! He's prepared for anything!!!!
thank you Tina....my little shovel and sweeper are always on my holster.....I got a terrible splinter from brushing off a grave one day long ago and have used a broom ever since
This guy was a good historian. 👍 very sad whatever this situation is. So many over years loose track of family. I just put flowers on my moms grave yesterday. 😩
If you haven't joined the Facebook page I find it very interesting. Unusual grave markers and interesting stories. A great "umbrella" link to the UTube channel.
Brittan said there was poison ivy. And Ron said, good thing we wore pants? You do usually wear pants, right Ron? 😟🤔🤣🤣😁🤪💗
Seriously, this is very sad. I think they just decided most people had forgotten the cemetary, and they resold the land for those all important houses.
I bet they moved the stones and plot markers, but not the bodies.
Hopefully they can be stopped before more damage is done.
Thanks Ron and Brittan. I could hear Brittan just fine BTW.
That is a crying shame....
I always thought a abandoned, forgotten graveyard would be a great place to hide a body......
Ron I love your wonderful story ❤❤❤❤😊
I've come across abandoned graves in Oregon, where I am from, that r in better condition than this.
We called it the lost cemetery!
Omg, epic!!!
Could they have moved? Although they would have taken their stones as well.
They discarded the bodies and then tossed the markers and the cemetery plot ID's in order to cover up the fact that they illegally removed the bodies. Look at where many of these people were from and then figure that they have no next of kin here in the USA, or if they are, do not live nearby. The markers would not be moved unless the bodies were moved. Follow the money.
Good evening 😊
Those perfect square stones and the round ones are corner markers
The old almshouses would use the numbered markers to correspond with their burial records of their residents
I always thought that you could not build on a cemetary. Lot markers are standing up right, not tossed. Could be close together for a single burial. With lot markers at the Montrose Cemetery could records show.of any burials. So sad
I always thought that too, but look all over the world, we learn from RUclips it’s happened everywhere.
Thank you 💕💕 poor people prayers 🙏🙏 sta save pls thanks again ron
Would the water, snd weather knock off the headstones and move around the footstones?
OMG RON UR AT THE LOST CEMETARY my late husband was chased by monks in there baxk in the late 70s early 80s!! I didn't even know u did this!!! We hung out there all thru the 80s LMAO!!!!
It's crazy that people have been hanging out there for so long! My friends and I hung out there a couple years ago during the summers.
Weird, very weird, this story needs a follow-up.
Omg. This is soooo wrong. 😢
That is the saddest and most disrespectful place I have ever seen! Why doesn't the city make the land owners clean it up or even the city itself? Hope this mystery can be solved! Thanks Ron and Brittan!! Did you ever get all of the stickers out of your clothes? I know those are some tough ones!
Continue to think
Cremation is my
Preference 😐
after watching this !
Someone needs to do something about that. City officials to do something
Your Guest was Great, Very knowledgeable!!!! He needs to start a channel himself on History or Something, But your the best what you do, So how far was the. Cemetery they we're buried at,To you two we're at???? Great video
Very sad to see.
You said it flooded back there. Would that destroy the gravestones?
Surely there are descendants.. this is so wrong, not only discarded like garbage but there's evil practices there. I'm completely floored...
Water, freezing and thawing is good for tossing stones around,
This is sad, I really hope that someone takes up the cause..so to speak…and solves this, it’s the very least that should be done, wherever they are may they rest in peace..🙏🙏🙏☘️☘️☘️
It would be amazing if someone could donate ground penetrating radar services to see exactly what is under that area.
I definitely agree. Hopefully that may happen.
@Queen Bee you read my mind I was thinking the same thing that they should bring out a ground penatrating radar to locate and move the remains to a proper spot and put in a new headstone
That sould be a great idea
i totally agree!! ur right! He deserves to be donated sme thng like tht so he can delve deeper in to these peoples stories! x
perhaps archeology students could practice with their university's GPR
Ron, you & Brittan did a great job doing this video!!!!!!💖💖💖
Thank you Debbie ❤
So very sad to see people tossed away like that. I'm in Colorado and the "oldest" cemetery in Denver, Riverside, and Cheesman Park are linked. Cheesman was a cemetery and the city wanted the land for a park, so they started moving bodies and markers to Riverside. At first, they were very meticulous and the whole situation devolved when the cost started to rise. There are several mass graves at Riverside (a little marker that just says, "Colorado Children's Home," just brought me to tears), but they even abandoned that effort and the city just paved over hundreds of graves that still remain. I couldn't imagine that happening to one of my relatives.
Yeah I remember that place. I've even heard there's supposedly more places like that in NYC. It's crazy to think they even did something like this.
Can't wait to find out this mystery. If their bodies were dug up and moves to that wooded area an reburied thw headstones would bw above their graves. Obviously thats not the case. Looks like maybe the bodies weren't moved and headstones were just thrown in there and discarded. That is so disrespectful and sad. 😔
This is why I’m here. Love the unknown. They deserve to be seen and remembered. I think you’ve found a real graveyard of those from years and years ago.
So sad! The lack of respect for those who have lived before us, heartbreaking
money talks. Those are some expensive houses built on the old graves
Really would be interesting to find out more this
This dude is very good he should have his own channel.
That’s what u call the forgotten faces so sad what a mess after death they should still be respected even more ❤️💔😭
These graves need to be reported because they have family members and there were other cemeteries in Cook County that did something like this. God bless their souls and all the ones who are misplaced.
god dont care
God does care or you wouldn't be here@@PRHILL9696
It would be useful to have surveyors, historians and even archaeologists working on this.
Love your channel so interesting. Those poor people that thought they were buried and resting in peace. I’m from Bristol UK and we had a cemetery that was privately owned called Arnos Vale. The owner let it get run down and decided to sell it to developers. The council stepped in and made a compulsory purchase order. It is amazing they’ve done to the place. There are volunteers that help to run it. There is so much history attached to the cemetery. They do tours explaining the different types of head stones the people buried there, wild life talks. My husbands old home used to back on to the cemetery and he would get deer in his garden, which is unusual as it’s in the middle of the city! If you get the chance look it up, maybe use it as an example to save this cemetery. Keep up the good work you are doing.
Could the numbered cylinders be marking pauper graves, looks like they are upright with the numbers up. I believe you covered another cemetery by a hospital which had numbered markers. Development in the area may have diverted water to cause the area to flood. Seems if the markers were just dumped for disposal they would be piled with no sequence.
I was thinking it was a washout or flood.
I know that the cemetery some of my family is buried in have markers like that at every corner. It's different lots/areas. It makes it easier for the cemetery to use to find certain grave etc. It doesn't hurt to ask questions at the office which I did 😊
Just what I was thinking.
Totally agree! I have been to a lost cemetery that had "unknown souls" 1 through 22.
No way those circular numbered stones aren't graves when they're lined up so closely--perfectly for grave next to grave. They have to be paupers' graves. It's a big town with an old cemetery and the dates include World War 1 (1914-1918), when many citizens went to join the fight and/or fight with/for relatives, and a major pandemic (1918) when whole families could have died with no one to pay for the graves. And that's NOT counting the Tuberculosis place.
I'm so happy you're going to follow up. Thank Briton for his courage and knowledge into this nightmare. Another great video just in time for the Halloween season.. because that's pretty much where it belongs, under Halloween. What a mess. I'm praying the bodies are found and someone cleans that place up. I'm heart sick at the amount of desecration of graves. Thank you for this jaw dropping video.
Please, please, please follow up.
City Hall should have records about the cemetery.
Thank you Mr. Ron and Mr. Britton. One of your best. I would enjoy an episode 2.
A little insight. Real Satanist use an upsidedown pentagram. Usually with a goats head intertwined somehow. A point up pentagram is similar to an upright cross. It is not evil. So when it's used like the picture here, you can bet it's people who have no idea. And those who follow the pagan nature religion really find that kind of thing horribly offensive and feel the symbol is desecrated by those practices. Just some information and insight. Please don't make this into a negative discussion.
Yea right Karin!! Ur such a Karen .
Thank you for the information, it helps to know what you are talking about.
@@harrymarquez5931 Not funny.
@@karinearnst4089 He's child like. Ignore him.
@@harrymarquez5931 😡
I can’t imagine to be thrown away and forgotten about
That’s it - I’m getting cremated when my time comes.
@@PeppieP i always said I wanted to be buried and definitely not cremated. After watching all these videos, I’ve changed my mind.
@@redmage777 I know but just imagine the people in houses and they find human bones under their house or in their gardens, how will that effect them. I do feel that as these people have been buried, the least that can be done is that the grounds are looked after and not ploughed over and houses built on their bones 💀💀💀
This was such a fascinating episode, who knew this was hidden back there? It’s so sad that their graves were disrespected in such a way. I hope more comes to light on this, and hopefully someday the deceased will be reunited with their headstones.
I could hear the guest easily.
A lot of people knew it was there 50 plus years ago
Oh my gosh! My old boyfriend and I as teenagers use to travel the railroad tracks here back in the mid 70's to go see this cemetery. He had told me about it and called it "The Lost Cemetery" .....it was scary. I can't believe it's still there! I remember when they tore up the tracks to make a bike path. Funniest thing is that I was just telling my son-in-law about this place a few days ago and then your video popped up!
Have the gravestones been in the same spots this whole time or does it look different in the video? I've been here with my friends in the last couple years!
Good job Ron and thank you Britton for your historical information.👍😊
Outrageous! Montrose Cemetery has a lot of explaining to do!
Hey Gang!! Last Sunday we were going to carve pumpkins n I detailed the tools on the table to use for carving n YT deleted my posts!!! That's nothing, I have been in FB jail 3 times, once for quoting a Bible verse!! Ok, over by that tree over there is a truck full of pumpkins. Y'all go grab ya one n we will start carving b4 Mr Rons s Video Under the Stars begins. Going to b a spooky one, I hear! Pick a theme. Is ur pumpkin going to b scary? Ugly? N animal? N object? We also have some snacks!! Eyeball soup, bloody biscuits, a green salad that is green bcuz of mold, drinks on ice in that stock tank by the truck! Save the seeds from ur pumpkin n we will toast them! Can't wait for the video tonight. Got me a blanket to hug when it gets scary n to put over my head if it gets really scary!! Lets have fun carving! Its Fall y'all!! Grab a pumpkin Mr Ron!! Lets see what everyone comes up with!!!
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eyeball soup haha i remember that halloween treat with cider and peeled grapes....my mom used to take a pair of rubber wash gloves and fill em up with red jello and freeze it for an hour....delicious bloody hands and fingers!!...happy halloween gang
I forgot on my previous msg that my grandfather was a civil war veteran. He was wounded twice, once at Gettysburg and Antietam. He held the rank of Sgt Major at the end of the war. I am very proud of my grandpa.
I've also seen episodes of people finding abandoned mausoleums. Caskets laying out, and some bones laying around. It's horrible. I don't understand how mausoleums get abandoned.
@@EmilyTienne not the place for a political discussion
@@EmilyTienne I guess you don’t seem to realize that this is a video about a forgotten cemetery and how sad that is. Someone always seems to think they need to interject political views to get people off the subject and start a political argument when it’s not the subject at hand. There are other forums where they can argue away to their content. And I didn’t change the subject, the first person to enter a political post did, so don’t blame me. You are just a troll here promoting politics and trying to carry on the argument 😡
Extremely angry!! I've spent 20 years doing family research. About 7 minutes into this video you will see the headstone of Jacob Herbst 1882-1923. He's a lost member of my family. His name was actually Jakob Herbst and he was born in Mackenbach, Bavaria. He was married to Rosie Ulrich, who, with their son Jacob and her brother Sam Ulreich, are buried at the REAL Montrose Cemetery. Jakob was a musician. He was a violin finisher by trade. He immigrated to this country in 1910 and was naturalized in 1919. His family lived on Bissell Street in Chicago. He suffered great loss in his life, loosing at least 2 sons at very young ages, himself passing at a young age. And today, as we all see, his suffering continues nearly a century after his passing, being forgotten and thrown away in an unkept area of discarded memories. This absolutely breaks my heart! Tomorrow, I will be making some calls to find out how and why his headstone is there. But most importantly, where HIS location actually is. He had a son that passed in 1983, and I will be starting there to find out who would have been responsible for the laying to rest of these poor people. Jakob....you are NOT forgotten; in memory, thanks to this youtube video....you have family again. Rest in peace.
Fantastic! Let us know what you find out. Go get ‘em!!!!!
This was a great video. Feel so sad for those graves😢
Ok fellas, great job showing us all the questionable refuse…. But the leather face with scary booing was too much for my weak kneed self. Lol. I loved hearing about the Snells. I have Snell kin living in the area there….so I will be making some inquiries. Take care, see you soon, I hope.
Wow. This is amazing,tragic and so sad. I hope there is a follow up on what happened there. Brittan's knowledge on this , and history in general is astounding. What a blessing to be able to spend the day with someone so knowledgeable and learn so much.Thank you for traveling through the woods and sticky thorns to bring us this episode.
From google images it’s fairly obvious to me the area with new house is the site for the removed head stones and the developer even used the original roads in the cemetery by the Satelite images but that’s to obvious I’d be thinking the person or persons responsible had never thought Satalite images would ever be a thing
I used to dig graves in a few remote towns that were once boom towns. At one, the markers were once mostly timber. When the town declined, a fire took out most of the markers, and another fire later at the Council building took out the burial records. There is now around 300 known locations, but 2500 burials. If I was digging a grave in an older area I always had to have a back up location in case someone was already in there - which wasn't uncommon. At another cemetery, the whole old indigenous area had become lost and overgrown, and was nothing more than a rumour. I tried to get in there many times but it was just too thick.
simply amazing. i would love to know the truth.
Oh I just got a sick feeling. My great grandparents are buried there at Montrose as are most of my grandfathers family. My grandparents had bought lots there as well but wanted to be by their only daughter who had lots in Mt. Emblem so those graves were never going to used. When my grandfather died, his cousin was saying she and her husband tried to get graves there but they were all taken so they could not be in that cemetary by her parents. We gave her my grandparents lots and that was 25 years ago. I noticed when I went to the cemetery there were newer graves just next to that oriental section. Maybe they were dug up and those graves resold.