"Clayman 2020" EP by In Flames (THEIR WORST ALBUM YET?) | ALBUM REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In Flames go out of their way to trample all over an iconic record with "Clayman 2020", possibly the worst thing the band has produced in their entire 25+ year career.
"Clayman 2020" EP by In Flames
Released July 24th 2020 via Nuclear Blast Records
Produced by Ted Jensen
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Being a in flames fan . This hurt. Why just why?
needed to fund some new branded liquor most probably
You nailed it. I don’t miss In Flames at all. We still have Soilwork and Dark Tranquillity
Jesus Christ what is it with this band
Early inflames albums being some of my favourite albums of all time and even enjoying some of the later albums to an extent I gotta say..This is the worst thing they've done
No argument here. I suppose at least ONE good thing may have come out of all this though - I admire and appreciate the original "Clayman" even more now.
the only good thing about it is the artwork nothing else,those re-recorded songs are shite,In flames has declidned in quality & song writing & its so sad,Founder jesper Stromblad leaving after a sense of purpose was the writing on the wall
This review was a 5/5. Agree with everything you said here except that I actually really liked the first song song with the quartet.
I was gonna review this EP today but I decided not to review it since I heard 2 songs from it and I am very disappointed with them. I am also disappointed that they ruined their classic album
I liked In Flames up to A Sense of Purpose. I know that was well into their pop metal era stuff, but it still felt like a decent album because of some standout tracks.
This EP though... just disappointing. They reinterpreted a lot of the old songs with their more modern style and it actually made me remember why I dislike a lot of modern metal. There's nothing that truly hits you, neither production wise or in the band's playing, nothing that gives you that raw and gritty sound that first made you attracted to metal. It feels like cheap metal songs recorded by session musicians who don't really listen to metal, and they were hired by corporate people to make these songs for commercials to appeal to kids who listen to rock. Just distorted enough to resemble metal but sterile enough to get airplay between sitcoms for the average family.
Sterile. That's really the word. I'm sure there's some who like this modern stuff, but not me. There's something really icky about modern metal production (not all, but a lot of modern metal bands have awfully clean and sterile productions), and you combine that with In Flames' current style and it's not really a good recipe.
As a huge Fan of inflames that even likes some of their albums post come Clarity. I gotta ask why this was necessary. I would prefer to listen to Battles and Siren Charms than this garbage. They ruined one of their masterpieces.
How did they ruin anything? It's not like their going to delete the old albums. You can still listen to them if you like them more.
I agree with all the hilarious and sad points you made They took Clayman blew it up remastered and rerecorded what was left of it and on to pressing. They've been horrendous for a very long time. 1.5 is way too generous.
Had they re-recorded the ENTIRE album, or actively fucked up the song-writing in the process, the score probably would've been lower.... MUCH lower....
On the bright side, at least we still have the original album.
Yikes, had some hope for this.....
I'm a Diehard Jester...I hate to say it, but he's right, everything after A Sense Of Purpose is a total shut show
Sounds like nothing have changed since the last album I've listened to them was Siren Charms. They're diluting their music and dumbing it down intentionally. They should be called N'Flames because they're more pop sounding than ever.
The Clayman 2020 ep is an ironic take on what 2020 was as a whole.
sucks the ep was not good also wanted to ask did you like the new napalm death song.
Hell yes! I've always loved Napalm Death though, one of my all time favourite bands.
What I find most confusing about this EP is simply why Clayman? Normally when a band releases an album that’s been re-recorded or remixed, it’s because the original version really had poor audio quality. Clayman doesn’t.
There should never be a debate on whether or not a release sounds better than the original, but in this case that debate can absolutely be had. The original sounds better.
I looked them up out of curiosity tonight because I used to consider them my #1......pre 2006. Started listening to Bullet Ride and I couldn't even finish it. It is so bad it actually pisses me off. It doesn't sound like In Flames it sounds like a shitty In Flames cover band. It's a fucking insult. Also I'm following your lead. I am NEVER going to look up any new release of theirs again. Hearing that garbage was a slap in the face.
You forgot titanic Colony album man!!! Aaaaah 😉
Another great record for sure!
To be really honest, i never liked clayman, i'm more of a lunar stain/the jester race(or dance, i don't really remember), but i really respect it, because It is really good.
And holy shout, they really fucked up with that album
Yeah, I think Clayman is when they started to go downhill. I think Colony is their last legitimately fantastic album.
I’m glad I’m not a In Flames fan ! 😔
I remember when Reroute to Remain was released - they changed everything. They even aped after the American Nu-Metal look. NowI feel It’s a good album, but back then I hated it
EVERYONE hated that album when it came out but lo and behold look at what they became!! Makes you want more RtR instead.
I was a big fan of RtR, STYE, and Come Clarity... But I was done after those albums.
@@fv1005 a sense of purpose grows on you, I admire the riffs on it. I can't speak for anything after ASOP though.
@@spongebitchbobface facts. I actually liked Where the Dead Ships Dwell
@@fv1005 huh? That was sound of a playground fading lol. But even that album had a couple of bangers, but what made em bangers was the groove metal elements and the two bonus tracks, without that the album would have been a travesty. Thse few positives aren't enough to make the album even close to a classic though.
@@spongebitchbobface damn ur right! Forgot the album name! But yea I liked the whole album overall.
I loved the remastered songs on Clayman. The re recorded songs are trash.
The themes and variations bonus is decent.
I haven't yet listened to the re-master, I imagine its automatically better than this though lol
This one’s just garbage 😬
this review is 5 out of 5,the re-recordings sound so damn bad,in flames should just call it quits since the departure of Jesper Stromblad the band has really fallen,Ander`s turned into a hipster wannabe & decided lets make shitty music
Yes, Anders is trying to be Jonathan Davis. I actually noticed that many, many years ago. His vocal style; his change in fashion style; and even the re-design of the In Flames logo. It's beyond obvious that In Flames has been trying to emulate Korn/nu-metal desperately for nearly 20 years now. It's really fucking pathetic and just weird. In the early 2000s when the band started to get big in the US and they decided to change their style and musical genre, someone should have told them: "Um.... Guys.... Nu-metal popularity died out here. In fact, it's largely mocked. Korn is really not considered cool anymore. Sorry you didn't get the memo. But yeah, you guys are WAY behind when it comes to what's currently popular and trendy."
I think Anders has a midlife crisis, he thinks he is emo guy who listen to Ronnie Radke, My chemical romance and thats why new In flames suckkks xD
It's funny that you mention My Chemical Romance because their producer not only produced the re recorded material. But has also produced their last couple albums which explains why their music has gone downhill in the past decade.
Yeah, they're new stuff is very underwhelming but at least I can always go back to their old stuff. I mean for goodness sakes, I have a little toy electronic drum kit down in my basement that has a better drum sound than this EP.
I Always loved In Flames. I have a few of their albums, but I never checked out Clayman.
Definitely check out the original album then - a fantastic slice of Swedish melodic death metal!
This album was absolute dogshit. Why fix something if it isn’t broken? The original was perfect. No wonder most of the original members have jumped ship
What are your favorite In Flames albums?
The early stuff remains my favourite. Namely "The Jester Race" and "Whoracle". The former is aesthetically more epic and raw, but the latter album has better production and song-writing. The original "Clayman" is a great record as well, and contrary to popular belief, I enjoy some of the mid-2000's stuff. "Come Clarity" especially is chock-full of ragin' tunes (need I even mention the ICONIC 'Take This Life'?)
The Metal Meltdown i agree man! I even like soundtrack to your escape haha.
Thanks for always answering my comments/questions!
@@spencer4359 Anytime \m/
Come Clarity
Their new stuff does suck but it sounds pretty good live. I will only listen to their older stuff though.
I discovered In Flames with the original Clayman album... it's a shame, this ep is pure crap. They lost me a long time ago, A Sense of Purpose was disappointing, Playground Fading was Ok... after that eveyrthing is crap (last album a bit less crappy). The only good thing about in Flames is they are kinda good live, saw them last summer, they were catchy.
I saw them with Opeth and Red Fang back in 2014, I'll admit it was a good show. I think I may have even bought "Siren Charms" afterwards.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial at least their live shows are better now, because... the band is sober! I've seen In Flames a few times around 2005-2010, most of the time they were drunk, especially Anders, and the live shows were messy.
At least this new album is going back to melodic death metal and its actually good
It's gotta be some kinda joke man. . .
If it is, it isn't a very funny one
Hey, at least they will play more Clayman songs live rather than the shit they play from Battles and I the Mask.
I think this accurately sums it all up
i.imgur.com/1vHu4ri.jpg
Holy shit Y E S
I feel like this is the worst part of 2020.
Thanks for the review i am not going to listen to this shit anyway i enjoyed Primal Fear and Haken are you going to review it?
Primal Fear no - Solid record, just not enough to talk about to warrant a full review.
As far as Haken is concerned, I'm truthfully not the most familiar with their previous work, and after learning how heavily connected "Virus" is to some of their other works, I'd like to take my time and explore their older records before I jump into this. Looking forward to it though!
A lot of Clayman 2020 being shit had to do with production. The production killed so much of it. ruclips.net/video/pcqf7OKnHb4/видео.html This video has a different production, and it is actually a lot better than the rerecordings that were released. It isn't better than the original, (Obviously) but it actually makes the rerecordings in my opinion, actually enjoyable. It isn't a perfect mix, but a random internet person did a better job than a guy who does production for a living in a professional studio. I enjoy newer In Flames, except for this, but if they had much better production like in this video, I could enjoy them. (Also I really like Themes And Variations in D-Minor, but with that production, I'd give it a 3/5 instead of a 1.5/5, since I agree with your opinion on the ones they released. Again, not better than the original, but for me, enjoyable, at least, with better production.)
this ep is just boring af, today I listened new album of Gaerea and it's fucking amazing imo.
When a band is so bad that they mess up their good material, I'd rather just go and listen to the versions of that material. In Flames is so bad at this point that they will never come back. It's unfortunate to say, but it's true.
Honestly I feel the same - I've literally zero interest in whatever In Flames releases next.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Yeah, wanna hear some good Swedish death metal? Check out Hecatomb, an E.P. by Repugnant. That band featured Tobias Forge from Ghost of all people.
The only positive thing was great artwork, they literally polished a turd.
The cover art is great, too.......