Yeah at the end I figured the CIA didn’t write it. I enjoyed the whole background history of the CIA though. I’ve enjoyed his books too. They are really good investigative stories.
I can't recommend the podcast highly enough. On the surface it's about this rumour, but it's ultimately about how powerful governments use culture (and all sorts of veiled parts of society) to influence global politics. It's superbly executed, there's a great bit about Nina Simone in it.
I agree! I mean at the end I figured the CIA didn’t write it, but the history of the CIA and how it infiltrated many things, even when the participants were unaware was interesting.
Yeah that’s the exact answer I’d expect from a German CIA operative. Way to end the Cold War friend. You and Rocky Balboa averted a nuclear disaster. Thank you! I grew up thinking I’d have to go all Red Dawn and such screaming Wolverines forever...!!!
It is a fun podcast nonetheless and a plausible idea. Despite the denial here, it is possible for it to be true that the CIA didn’t write it but nor did the Scorpions. It’s possible that the song was written by a professional songwriter and given to the Scorpions to popularize it. That way, Klaus can say honestly that it’s not true that the CIA wrote it. 😀 Fun stuff.
Weird that it was the first song Klaus wrote for the band that started in 1969, weird that it was the first time they recorded in America , he could of wrote it but during production certain subconscious things could of been added by psyops without them knowing. Nonetheless the cia could of been instrumental ( no pun intended) in covertly promoting the song to be so popular that Klaus totally created himself, we really don't know but the podcast pointed out that the cia had done this in the past with Louie Armstrong and Nina Simone
The first song that he had written for the band??? What are you smoking? His other songs maybe have had co-writers, because they are a guitar-heavy band, but he always did a lot of the song writing, and wind of change was much much more of a ballad than most Scorpions songs. Also, the song came out AFTER the wall came down. Were the CIA just slow songwriters?
Definitely an entertaining podcast that makes you think. What doesn’t make sense to me is how Doc McGhee basically got a slap on the wrist when he got busted running drugs w Noriega. Makes the cia story more plausible. Hmm.
It's an incredible podcast series for many reasons, regardless of the truth of the statement 'the CIA wrote Wind of Change'. I learned a lot and found it fascinating and a little scary - the stuff they've done in the past like this but is 100% true, making the reason to investigate it via a podcast extremely valid. Go listen! And to the bonus episodes... you'll also hear that Klaus does not crack up laughing or ask 'are you interviewing a songwriter or a spy?'... his real response is pretty interesting.
The European rock/metal guys had a great vibe in the 80's. I was lucky enough to hang out with them and then back to U.S.A They were also cool, but those guys studied the U.S.A stuff closely. They had big dreams and big passion.
Klaus is epic. Honestly, the man can do no wrong as far as I can see. He sang "Sails Of Charon" so if you told me he was a member of The Taliban I'd say he gets a pass in my book.
Big Scorpions fan here who happens to also read body language & Klaus Meine's body language is incongruent--he is lying. I'm not going to break the entire interview down, despite this not being a long video, writing out my analysis would be time consuming & likely not even be seen by many people who care. But, for anyone interested, here's a few of my observations to help you make your own decision: 1) when being deceptive, people often minimise references to themselves, for example, someone being deceitful might say, "the window was left unlocked," instead of "I left the window unlocked". At 2:48, Klaus says "...at the end of the day, to make an interview with THE SONGWRITER of Wind of Change." Rather than something like "about my lyrics" or "about how I wrote the song". This statement is followed by a 2) Nervous laugh, which is a physical reaction to stress, anxiety & discomfort. Instead of coming from the gut, it comes from the back of the throat. "HA HA HA." 3) Klaus also uses equivocation, excessive adverbs & qualifying statements expressing his uncertainty about the accuracy of his own statements. For an example, watch timestamp 1:23. 4) when he finally gets to his first denial @ 2:18 watch his head while he says, "but, it's not true". While he's saying no with his words, he's nodding yes with his head. If you try doing this yourself, you'll feel how unnatural it is. 5) this is immediately followed by Klaus tightly pressing his lips together, indicating he's holding back & he also smirks while occasionally flicking his tongue out. This is called "duping delight". Picture a child sticking his tongue out behind the teacher's back in class. Same thing, really except duping delight is, primarily, involuntary. As if he's saying, "I got away with it, na na nana naa naa!" I'm going to stop there because this comment is long enough & I'd go on & on with micro expressions. IMO, the CIA wrote Wind of Change & Klaus is obligated to cover it up, even though the outcome of the lie was/is unquestionably good. Thanks for reading!
@@SerpMolot that he is deceptive does not mean he did not write it. He could well be covering up that he helped the CIA in other ways or he knows they helped it become ubiquitous thought the Soviet sphere which seems more believable.
If you listen the podcast You will see a very different reaction of him, maybe hes nervous about people only asking him this after the podcast release.
Meine wrote the song in the summer of 1989- Berlin wall came down (almost by accident) on Nov. 9, 1989, 2 months later. One can certainly draw conclusions politically, but not CIA stuff. Tearing down the wall had been growing for years, since 1960 actually. 'Wind of Change' was recorded in 1990-1. There were still many changes to occur all over Europe going on. It became an anthem, maybe THEE anthem of revolt against Soviet Communism.
klaus meu querido não leve isso a sério. É fofoca sem sentido que alguém inventou pra gerar ti ti ti. Nunca ouvi essas coisas antes desde que a música foi lançada e agora querem derramar leite e estragar os merecidos créditos. Klaus não há outro melhor que você.
would you ever expect klaus meine to say yes if it was true? of course not. He has to say no either way. but it is a fact, that wind of change stick out like a sore thumb if compared to the rest of the scorpions catalog.....
Yes! I was thinking the same thing ..nothing like "No One Like You", "Still Loving You", plus it was HEAVILY promoted. Radio stations back then got payola from playing certain songs and this song was one of them!
The C.I.A wrote "Imagine" for John Lennon to sing to promote one world globalism. The story about him writing this song on his white piano is B.S. The Scorpions never did a political protest song before and this song sounds much different than their other "power ballads" which were guitar chords based. This song has no riff!
@@SilvioX oh yeah well you just wait with all this George Floyd nonsense. All these musicians will be singing one world, one government, one currency, we are all one and it's already going on which makes Scorpions look like small potatoes dumbass
@@LarryFleetwood8675 yeah he started going on t.v badmouthing dictators and other countries way of life. He claimed he was anti-consumerism but never gave a penny to any charities or worthy causes. You don't bash people with power on t.v and expect to get away from it for long.
Even if you know the answer, it's a great podcast, entertaining, thought-provoking, a spy mystery without murder! I loved it.
Yeah at the end I figured the CIA didn’t write it. I enjoyed the whole background history of the CIA though. I’ve enjoyed his books too. They are really good investigative stories.
I can't recommend the podcast highly enough. On the surface it's about this rumour, but it's ultimately about how powerful governments use culture (and all sorts of veiled parts of society) to influence global politics. It's superbly executed, there's a great bit about Nina Simone in it.
I've been binging it all day & I couldn't agree more. Absolutely phenomenal.
But thousands of idiots will think it's real. And then actual stuff like regime changes will go under the radar.
I agree! I mean at the end I figured the CIA didn’t write it, but the history of the CIA and how it infiltrated many things, even when the participants were unaware was interesting.
What, Nina Simone was run by the Kremlin?
Yeah that’s the exact answer I’d expect from a German CIA operative. Way to end the Cold War friend. You and Rocky Balboa averted a nuclear disaster. Thank you! I grew up thinking I’d have to go all Red Dawn and such screaming Wolverines forever...!!!
The CIA should write more songs then. Where can I buy their debut album
ruclips.net/video/03lmnXcSwqo/видео.html
They write more than you think
@@sudilos1172 not they but the talent money buys, they have access to anything and everything
hi Klaus! i want to hear a remastered version of Wind of Change with all old classic songs in the new album, I can't wait!
I enjoyed the Podcast it was very well done
It is a fun podcast nonetheless and a plausible idea. Despite the denial here, it is possible for it to be true that the CIA didn’t write it but nor did the Scorpions. It’s possible that the song was written by a professional songwriter and given to the Scorpions to popularize it. That way, Klaus can say honestly that it’s not true that the CIA wrote it. 😀 Fun stuff.
@Brian Hebert Thanks.
Weird that it was the first song Klaus wrote for the band that started in 1969, weird that it was the first time they recorded in America , he could of wrote it but during production certain subconscious things could of been added by psyops without them knowing. Nonetheless the cia could of been instrumental ( no pun intended) in covertly promoting the song to be so popular that Klaus totally created himself, we really don't know but the podcast pointed out that the cia had done this in the past with Louie Armstrong and Nina Simone
The first song that he had written for the band??? What are you smoking? His other songs maybe have had co-writers, because they are a guitar-heavy band, but he always did a lot of the song writing, and wind of change was much much more of a ballad than most Scorpions songs.
Also, the song came out AFTER the wall came down. Were the CIA just slow songwriters?
I can't believe I read this!
The Scorpions need to be in the HOF!! Why aren't they in? I can't think of not one reason why they shouldn't be in!! Unreal!!
great podcast...great song!!! IF ARGO happened why can this not happen? We will know the truth in 30 more years
Definitely an entertaining podcast that makes you think. What doesn’t make sense to me is how Doc McGhee basically got a slap on the wrist when he got busted running drugs w Noriega. Makes the cia story more plausible. Hmm.
It's an incredible podcast series for many reasons, regardless of the truth of the statement 'the CIA wrote Wind of Change'. I learned a lot and found it fascinating and a little scary - the stuff they've done in the past like this but is 100% true, making the reason to investigate it via a podcast extremely valid. Go listen! And to the bonus episodes... you'll also hear that Klaus does not crack up laughing or ask 'are you interviewing a songwriter or a spy?'... his real response is pretty interesting.
The European rock/metal guys had a great vibe in the 80's. I was lucky enough to hang out with them and then back to U.S.A They were also cool, but those guys studied the U.S.A stuff closely. They had big dreams and big passion.
That’s exactly what a spy would struggle to say!
Ya... And i think a spy will struggle harder for 1000 years to create a song as beautifull as wind of change.
Klaus is epic. Honestly, the man can do no wrong as far as I can see. He sang "Sails Of Charon" so if you told me he was a member of The Taliban I'd say he gets a pass in my book.
Who else think of the personbin 3:09 when he said like your American guy would say. "FAKE NEWS"
It was a yes or no question
Big Scorpions fan here who happens to also read body language & Klaus Meine's body language is incongruent--he is lying. I'm not going to break the entire interview down, despite this not being a long video, writing out my analysis would be time consuming & likely not even be seen by many people who care. But, for anyone interested, here's a few of my observations to help you make your own decision:
1) when being deceptive, people often minimise references to themselves, for example, someone being deceitful might say, "the window was left unlocked," instead of "I left the window unlocked". At 2:48, Klaus says "...at the end of the day, to make an interview with THE SONGWRITER of Wind of Change." Rather than something like "about my lyrics" or "about how I wrote the song". This statement is followed by a
2) Nervous laugh, which is a physical reaction to stress, anxiety & discomfort. Instead of coming from the gut, it comes from the back of the throat. "HA HA HA."
3) Klaus also uses equivocation, excessive adverbs & qualifying statements expressing his uncertainty about the accuracy of his own statements. For an example, watch timestamp 1:23.
4) when he finally gets to his first denial @ 2:18 watch his head while he says, "but, it's not true". While he's saying no with his words, he's nodding yes with his head. If you try doing this yourself, you'll feel how unnatural it is.
5) this is immediately followed by Klaus tightly pressing his lips together, indicating he's holding back & he also smirks while occasionally flicking his tongue out. This is called "duping delight". Picture a child sticking his tongue out behind the teacher's back in class. Same thing, really except duping delight is, primarily, involuntary. As if he's saying, "I got away with it, na na nana naa naa!"
I'm going to stop there because this comment is long enough & I'd go on & on with micro expressions. IMO, the CIA wrote Wind of Change & Klaus is obligated to cover it up, even though the outcome of the lie was/is unquestionably good. Thanks for reading!
Have you ever thought some of the awkward phrasing comes from the fact that he's German and English is a second language for him?
@@cyndimccurdy9365 I thought about that but he's been writing, singing and giving interviews in English for at least 50 years now.
@@SerpMolot that he is deceptive does not mean he did not write it. He could well be covering up that he helped the CIA in other ways or he knows they helped it become ubiquitous thought the Soviet sphere which seems more believable.
@@cyndimccurdy9365 I'm German and I tend to agree with you, the way he is phrasing his sentences makes more sense in German than in English.
If you listen the podcast You will see a very different reaction of him, maybe hes nervous about people only asking him this after the podcast release.
Meine wrote the song in the summer of 1989- Berlin wall came down (almost by accident) on Nov. 9, 1989, 2 months later. One can certainly draw conclusions politically, but not CIA stuff. Tearing down the wall had been growing for years, since 1960 actually. 'Wind of Change' was recorded in 1990-1. There were still many changes to occur all over Europe going on. It became an anthem, maybe THEE anthem of revolt against Soviet Communism.
Didn't he say he's been to a party with human sacrifice too?
klaus meu querido não leve isso a sério. É fofoca sem sentido que alguém inventou pra gerar ti ti ti. Nunca ouvi essas coisas antes desde que a música foi lançada e agora querem derramar leite e estragar os merecidos créditos. Klaus não há outro melhor que você.
would you ever expect klaus meine to say yes if it was true? of course not. He has to say no either way. but it is a fact, that wind of change stick out like a sore thumb if compared to the rest of the scorpions catalog.....
I DEFINITELY think the CIA wrote it. Does it sound anything like any of their other songs?
Yes! I was thinking the same thing ..nothing like "No One Like You", "Still Loving You", plus it was HEAVILY promoted. Radio stations back then got payola from playing certain songs and this song was one of them!
Yup the CIA is just filled with great songwriters and music promoters. I mean, come on
Haha well I guess they wrote "More Than Words" by Extreme too then.
@@Toehider that was an everly brothers ballad dumbass. Had nothing to do with the C.I.A. Think " imagine" by John Lennon if you can..
No it don't! And the Topn10 was rigged to make this thier biggest Hit!
nooo it was written by kgb ......
This wasnt very clear.
Not true at all?
😊
The C.I.A wrote "Imagine" for John Lennon to sing to promote one world globalism. The story about him writing this song on his white piano is B.S.
The Scorpions never did a political protest song before and this song sounds much different than their other "power ballads" which were guitar chords based. This song has no riff!
I know they killed him later, he'd become too big a social risk factor in America so Chapman was chosen and psy-op'ed to do it.
urmmm Scorpions - Crossfire (1984)
Yup. And the Secret Service wrote the White Album
@@SilvioX oh yeah well you just wait with all this George Floyd nonsense. All these musicians will be singing one world, one government, one currency, we are all one and it's already going on which makes Scorpions look like small potatoes dumbass
@@LarryFleetwood8675 yeah he started going on t.v badmouthing dictators and other countries way of life. He claimed he was anti-consumerism but never gave a penny to any charities or worthy causes. You don't bash people with power on t.v and expect to get away from it for long.
That's exactly what someone trying to cover up a CIA song would say
"Winds of Change" has too much stilted, almost awkward, English to be written by the CIA.