Good presentation of the topic! My dad was "customer support" for an industrial adhesive manufacturer. They did mostly solvent cements and exotic 2-part polymer based resins and epoxy stuff. That said, they did a lot of testing against PVA glues as a baseline. He told me that if I was happy working in shirtsleeves, then the PVA would be happy. The other thing he taught me about PVA was this - one can never have too many clamps. That tip has saved my butt many times building furniture. It is also the reason there is a need for a lot of those exotic adhesives... instant adhesion at $500 a gram.
Thanks for the video and the advice. I have some Titebond in the garage that may have frozen at some point, we get about two weeks where we dip into the low 20's overnight, so I guess it's time to toss and replace.
Nothing like learning something new to improve your skills. BTW, I coincidentally was looking up types of glue earlier last week and could hardly believe there were so many different types. And yes I found it out on Wikipedia.
interesting. I bought a brand new made in china sigma acoustic. Wasnt cheap. I thought overall - i want a guitar that sounds ok, doesnt need a neck reset and i liked the look of it and i could afford - as a compromise. Of course the neck angle was wrong from the beginning. Annoyingly there was another problem, all the braces on the back had come unstuck from the surface. only on the back. I'm guessing the glue up when they were making backs was in a cold workshop, or after the glue had frozen or some other problem in the gluing. Was really hard to get my head around it on a brand new guitar.
What is your take on roughing up the surfaces before gluing? For example if you have sanded all surfaces to say 320 grit does it help the bond if you hit the two surfaces with 120 or 180 grit before glueing? Maybe this is moot given that the chemistry is happening at well beyond smoothness of high grit paper or a smoothing plane. Just curious what you think on this.
Ok....I have had this out with many people. Gorilla Glue Original foams up, and expands. Gorilla WOOD Glue which is a PVA Glue, and is a non expanding wood glue. Gorilla makes many varieties of of glues, tapes, and leak stoppers......including Super Glue. Which I use exclusively for my Ahead Drum Stick tips. I Have used Gorilla Wood Glue, many times, and it's absolutely fantastic. Jist because something is a Standard, doesn't mean it's the only thing that works. Love the Channel, just wanted to clear that up. Cheers!!!! 😊
I don't think anyone here (including me) is disputing the performance of Gorilla Wood Glue. However, when it comes to glueing oily woods, none of the PVA glues (including Gorilla Wood Glue) work as well as Gorilla Glue Original, at least in my experience.
@HighlineGuitars Interesting. Thanks for that insight. I am building a few speaker cabs, for myself, using 30yr old Teak Plywood. Two 2×12s (different speakers), a 4×12, and a 2×15. So, I may have to try a few samples with a few varieties of adherents, to see what works best. Again, thank you, for that insight.
ive been doing carpentry for 30 years, maybe its a testament to how long ive been working with the stuff but i was under the impression you should always keep your wood glue at room tempature, espeially if you plan to use it for any length of time. anybody who has left a bottle sitting in a shop or shed without climate control knows that its a crap shooot if its going to be any good any more
Gonna send you some razors , it makes you look younger. (You should know I'm ust kidding around with you :) Suffice to say I, like your videos and I've learned a lot from them. I've even gotten brave enough to start a project myself .
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Good presentation of the topic! My dad was "customer support" for an industrial adhesive manufacturer. They did mostly solvent cements and exotic 2-part polymer based resins and epoxy stuff. That said, they did a lot of testing against PVA glues as a baseline. He told me that if I was happy working in shirtsleeves, then the PVA would be happy. The other thing he taught me about PVA was this - one can never have too many clamps. That tip has saved my butt many times building furniture. It is also the reason there is a need for a lot of those exotic adhesives... instant adhesion at $500 a gram.
Thanks for the video and the advice. I have some Titebond in the garage that may have frozen at some point, we get about two weeks where we dip into the low 20's overnight, so I guess it's time to toss and replace.
Great video. I am about to build my first guitar kit , I did not know this was so critical. 🙏 . Thanks.
So I'm not the only one with a cold workshop. Good to know.
Greetings and Happy Thanksgiving Chris. I treat glue just like paint. I store it at room temperature and only use it above 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
This is good info that I need to consider in my shop. Thanks Chris.
Gracias por compartir tu experiencia.
Nothing like learning something new to improve your skills. BTW, I coincidentally was looking up types of glue earlier last week and could hardly believe there were so many different types. And yes I found it out on Wikipedia.
interesting. I bought a brand new made in china sigma acoustic. Wasnt cheap. I thought overall - i want a guitar that sounds ok, doesnt need a neck reset and i liked the look of it and i could afford - as a compromise. Of course the neck angle was wrong from the beginning. Annoyingly there was another problem, all the braces on the back had come unstuck from the surface. only on the back. I'm guessing the glue up when they were making backs was in a cold workshop, or after the glue had frozen or some other problem in the gluing. Was really hard to get my head around it on a brand new guitar.
Thx for the info 👍
Makes me wonder how often glue freezes while being transported on it's way to the store
Don't just wonder, ask them. I know the answer, but I don't want to be a shill for their company.
thank you
What is your take on roughing up the surfaces before gluing? For example if you have sanded all surfaces to say 320 grit does it help the bond if you hit the two surfaces with 120 or 180 grit before glueing?
Maybe this is moot given that the chemistry is happening at well beyond smoothness of high grit paper or a smoothing plane. Just curious what you think on this.
I routinely glue surfaces that have been sanded to 600 grit without issue.
Ok....I have had this out with many people.
Gorilla Glue Original foams up, and expands.
Gorilla WOOD Glue which is a PVA Glue, and is a non expanding wood glue.
Gorilla makes many varieties of of glues, tapes, and leak stoppers......including Super Glue. Which I use exclusively for my Ahead Drum Stick tips.
I Have used Gorilla Wood Glue, many times, and it's absolutely fantastic. Jist because something is a Standard, doesn't mean it's the only thing that works.
Love the Channel, just wanted to clear that up.
Cheers!!!!
😊
I don't think anyone here (including me) is disputing the performance of Gorilla Wood Glue. However, when it comes to glueing oily woods, none of the PVA glues (including Gorilla Wood Glue) work as well as Gorilla Glue Original, at least in my experience.
@HighlineGuitars Interesting.
Thanks for that insight. I am building a few speaker cabs, for myself, using 30yr old Teak Plywood. Two 2×12s (different speakers), a 4×12, and a 2×15. So, I may have to try a few samples with a few varieties of adherents, to see what works best.
Again, thank you, for that insight.
ive been doing carpentry for 30 years, maybe its a testament to how long ive been working with the stuff but i was under the impression you should always keep your wood glue at room tempature, espeially if you plan to use it for any length of time. anybody who has left a bottle sitting in a shop or shed without climate control knows that its a crap shooot if its going to be any good any more
Gonna send you some razors , it makes you look younger. (You should know I'm ust kidding around with you :)
Suffice to say I, like your videos and I've learned a lot from them.
I've even gotten brave enough to start a project myself .
It should be obvious from my clothes and messy hair that I don't pay much attention to my vanity. 😜