Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg: WordPress vs WP Engine

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @yabwee2
    @yabwee2 2 месяца назад +21

    Not once did anyone I know ever think WPEngine was an official Wordpress entity. That's just a dumb claim.

    • @ManKidCS
      @ManKidCS 2 месяца назад +1

      yeah but his mommy did, and she racially abuses her carers so is quite the authority on tech.

    • @Ahmadtayyem
      @Ahmadtayyem 2 месяца назад +1

      You forget his mom

  • @puddle-brigade
    @puddle-brigade 2 месяца назад +74

    okay the spontaneous and unacknowledged nosebleed at 20:19 was strange and vaguely ominous

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 2 месяца назад

      it is a sign of demonic possession just like the thousand 🐓🐓🐓🐓 stare and the fact that he admitted that he was out there in africa murdering pets 🦒🦛🦁🦭 just last week, so I told him : kid you need to get your shit together and accept Jesus Christ as your savior and so on. It's really bad, but chances are he can still be saved.

    • @seanvandermolen7287
      @seanvandermolen7287 2 месяца назад +10

      drugs

    • @heyderekj
      @heyderekj 2 месяца назад +2

      Auren should've seen it and paused or Matt should've asked to pause. Like come on guys.

    • @harroj8922
      @harroj8922 2 месяца назад +1

      I knew it couldn't have only been me to notice.

    • @ManKidCS
      @ManKidCS 2 месяца назад

      cocaine will do that.

  • @rrtolkein4221
    @rrtolkein4221 2 месяца назад +45

    Not his coked out nosebleed my god

  • @spacedumpster
    @spacedumpster 2 месяца назад +48

    Sadly Matt's credibility erodes with each passing day. What may have been valid grievances about private equity and open source contributions has turned into a cruel, chaotic reveal of his absolute power and poor judgement over the entire WordPress ecosystem.

    • @manysimilarshapes
      @manysimilarshapes 2 месяца назад +1

      Got data or proof?

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 2 месяца назад +9

      @@manysimilarshapes just figure it out kid

    • @PrashantBhardwaj13
      @PrashantBhardwaj13 2 месяца назад +3

      @@manysimilarshapestf you mean , all of the information is largely public , can’t you make your own conclusions? Or do you think truth is something that is said by people you like

    • @ManKidCS
      @ManKidCS 2 месяца назад

      Matt, and WordPress also benefit from Private Equity. Matt IS Private Equity. There is no valid complain, just a thinly veiled extortion campaign so that Matt gets his pound of flesh (8%).

  • @seg_fault_jim
    @seg_fault_jim 2 месяца назад +43

    Matt's strategy is a complete anathema to true open source. You are absolutely destroying everything you've built in the most childish way possible. Disgraceful

    • @drizmans
      @drizmans 2 месяца назад

      No it isn't. The wordpress & WooCommerce trademarks were never "open source" - which is all this is about. WP is not denying WPEngine access to the source code, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to expect WPEngine to front the bill for update servers instead of landing that cost on an open source project. Hosts almost always provide their own Linux image servers, and mirror repo's for package updates to minimise cost and improve the user experience (faster updates)

    • @PaulZeeX
      @PaulZeeX Месяц назад

      @seg_fault_jim do you have a definition of "true open source" that would support your statement?
      When I reflect on Linux or Arduino or Apache WS, I think Matt's comments reflect my understanding of the principles under which most OS communities operate.

  • @genericusername546
    @genericusername546 2 месяца назад +42

    Meltdown Mullenweg keeps getting weirder

  • @SavanVyas91
    @SavanVyas91 2 месяца назад +32

    did his nose bleed in the end!

    • @friendformationbot
      @friendformationbot 2 месяца назад +7

      Yes! Why did he just keep talking like it was normal????

    • @wardicklock
      @wardicklock 2 месяца назад +13

      @@friendformationbot When you snort as many drugs as Matt does, it IS normal.

    • @DavidMcKendrick-lives-here
      @DavidMcKendrick-lives-here 2 месяца назад +1

      It happens, don''t overthink it.

    • @EmilyRose0
      @EmilyRose0 2 месяца назад

      For some people they get exited, the adrenaline pumps, their heart rate goes up they are stressed, exited ... and they nose starts to bleed out of nowhere. Its happens to quite a substantial amount of people. To claim this is because he supposedly snorts drugs is really a huge self own of the low people who make such baseless claims.

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 2 месяца назад +1

      @@EmilyRose0 I'm sorry, but as a recovering alcoholic, I recognize the signs of someone who is acting like an insane angry jerk. Matt is that. Try drinking for 20 years straight and then quitting cold turkey, you will become a beast like Matt.

  • @PaulZeeX
    @PaulZeeX 2 месяца назад +3

    Well no, Auren 7:44 : a GOOD business operates in good faith within the rules of trade that are established - both formally and informally - , and once an issue is identified, works in good faith to resolve the issue.
    There is nothing in Matt's telling of the issue from his perspective that would indicate WP Engine or Silver Lake are operating as any reasonable understanding of a "Good Business".
    Leaving aside the obvious Trademark Laws at both Federal and State level, Open Source communities have a set of values and principles - if not direct licensing agreements - that indicate how the community expects companies to behave.
    As an aside, I'm reminded of Open AI's misuse of "nonprofit" ... but that's another / a different story ...

  • @TrevorPhilipsBro
    @TrevorPhilipsBro 2 дня назад

    I work in the Tartan pajama industry and sales are down thanks to this guy.

  • @vikasv7678
    @vikasv7678 Месяц назад +4

    This guy gave the world a reliable platform for over 21 years. I have more trust in him than some private equity firm.

    • @lausianne
      @lausianne Месяц назад +1

      Yes, he, or his company and devs, and every other contributing devs have given a lot. But his good days appear to be over. Time to step down.

  • @heyderekj
    @heyderekj 2 месяца назад +10

    Hey Matt, you're doing these interviews because you attacked, chose "scorch the earth" route and now need to explain your actions which continue to baffle many and be immature.

  • @lashlarue7924
    @lashlarue7924 2 месяца назад +7

    Cocaine is one helluva drug!!

  • @ryanolson4844
    @ryanolson4844 2 месяца назад +15

    Why are you giving this baby not only an audience but also agreeing with him. Are you drinking the koolaid

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 2 месяца назад +2

      I wouldn't necessarily view it that way. The more he keeps yapping the more ammunition he's giving to the lawyers who are preparing his crucifixion. I've read the complaint, Matt has dug his hole very deep.

    • @ryanolson4844
      @ryanolson4844 2 месяца назад

      The issue is by giving him this type of audience he uses it as an echo chamber. The more people cut him off from attention the more he will be forced to make his own chambers and they won’t last.

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 2 месяца назад

      @@ryanolson4844 Well, why is the echo chamber a problem? That's basically just social media right? Frankly he's going to get obliterated in court, you should check out the complaint(s). By the time he settles he definitely won't be yapping any more, because it's going to be very painful for him!

    • @donnchadhmcginley3153
      @donnchadhmcginley3153 25 дней назад +1

      I'm sure silver lake could go on there and start bullshiting as well.

  • @n4murr
    @n4murr 2 месяца назад +2

    We should let the courts decide if its trademark infringement or not right? yet to see a good unbiased take on this situation, Everyone just keeps character assassinating Matt without refuting his points.

    • @PaulZeeX
      @PaulZeeX Месяц назад

      @@n4murr agree 100% with those vibes

  • @fullredbullzuiper
    @fullredbullzuiper 2 месяца назад +6

    Just by seeing his face, you know you cant trust Matt. Did anybode notice? But he looks awfully similar to the villain from the first two spidermans?

  • @ManKidCS
    @ManKidCS 2 месяца назад +5

    Talk about softball. Dude just gets to lie and talk shit uncontested for 28 minutes.

  • @m4z32003
    @m4z32003 2 месяца назад +3

    Nose bleed or not, at the end of the day WP is not covered by the WordPress trademark.

    • @PaulZeeX
      @PaulZeeX 2 месяца назад +2

      Actually, there's a reasonable case that it is, given a) the fairly clear, self-evident context (what business are WP engine in?), and b) given the related breach of use of the Woo Commerce trademarks.

    • @n4murr
      @n4murr 2 месяца назад +1

      @@PaulZeeX its so hard to find a unbiased take on this.

  • @mayurdotca
    @mayurdotca 2 месяца назад +1

    Was surprised by Matt's knowledge about raising, markets, funding, etc. Didn't expect that.

    • @EmilyRose0
      @EmilyRose0 2 месяца назад +2

      This dudes has his own private investment firm. He is the CEO of a huge company that employs 100s of people all across the world. Why would you not expect that???

    • @mayurdotca
      @mayurdotca 2 месяца назад

      @@EmilyRose0 Just wasn't on my radar. Is now.

  • @KingMob4313
    @KingMob4313 2 месяца назад +24

    Wow, the bloody nose is a tell lmfao

    • @DavidMcKendrick-lives-here
      @DavidMcKendrick-lives-here 2 месяца назад +2

      It isn't.

    • @jbca
      @jbca 2 месяца назад +18

      @@DavidMcKendrick-lives-here it could definitely just be a coincidence, but in the context of a sudden increasing pattern of erratic/manic self-destructive aggressive behaviour… it’s sure suggestive 🤨

    • @friendformationbot
      @friendformationbot 2 месяца назад +14

      @@DavidMcKendrick-lives-here yes it is, and so is the fact that he just keeps talking. this wasnt recorded live, they could have taken a break to take care of it or done another take. pretending it isn't happening is absurdly weird

    • @Etcher
      @Etcher 2 месяца назад

      A tell of what exactly? If anything it's stress. Matt is so obviously not a coke head

    • @EmilyRose0
      @EmilyRose0 2 месяца назад

      No its not. For some people they get exited, the adrenaline pumps, their heart rate goes up they are stressed, exited ... and they nose starts to bleed out of nowhere. Its happens to quite a substantial amount of people. To claim this is because he supposedly snorts drugs is really a huge self own of the low people who make such baseless claims.

  • @speaker_2234
    @speaker_2234 2 месяца назад +3

    Matt you are correct. All these bots in the comments can stay mad

  • @martinsanders2004
    @martinsanders2004 2 месяца назад

    Interesting

  • @photomatt
    @photomatt 2 месяца назад +16

    Around 20 minutes in, my nose started bleeding, which sometimes happens when I travel too much. Prior to this interview, I was on 30+ hour flights returning from Durban, where I was on safari, to Houston. I'm sorry for not noticing it happening; it's very embarrassing.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 2 месяца назад +14

      so you just went over there and murdered a bunch of pets 🦒🦛🦁🦭

    • @rrtolkein4221
      @rrtolkein4221 2 месяца назад

      Are you sure it wasnt cocaine induced?

    • @rrtolkein4221
      @rrtolkein4221 2 месяца назад +10

      @@jbca He's deleting replies lol

    • @manysimilarshapes
      @manysimilarshapes 2 месяца назад

      ​@@jbcacould you specify the erratic behaviour?

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 2 месяца назад

      @@jbca That kid needs to cut the crap, get his shit together and accept Jesus Christ as his savior, otherwise let's face it : he will be dead within a year.
      Murdering pets 🦒🦛🦁🦭, acting out, bleeding like a woman, the erratic behaviour, the racketeering ... all that points towards demonic possession but he can still be saved ✝✝

  • @hsabes400
    @hsabes400 Месяц назад

    The nose bleed explains a lot

  • @abhiramr_ep
    @abhiramr_ep Месяц назад

    Matt is an extremely immature person.

  • @HelmutGranda
    @HelmutGranda 2 месяца назад +3

    I ran into this video by chance and I find interesting that those who seem to want to help Matt should probably stop "interviewing" him and let the dust settle rather than adding more wood to the fire. I didn't listen to it all as it is mostly a rehearsal of other videos out there and I believe some want time with him just to benefit from the current controversy he is in and using him to get more visibility to their channel.
    I did skip forward to the end of the video about "Conspiracy Theories" and what a way to inject a conspiracy within a conspiracy segment "They have these dormant things that they have been waiting for a while... sleeper cells". To me that is clearly a conspiracy that WPEngine has been waiting to unleash these X accounts which proves my point of adding wood to the fire.
    Don't get me wrong, I have known about Matt for many years from back in the b2 days and even had an opportunity to meet him in person while he was handing out WordPress shirts at SWSW with the single "W" printed on the front (which I still have), so it is hard to see Matt grow the WordPress platform and community for many years and regardless of his intentions seeing these podcasters interviewing him to get the "latest" or "in realtime" just makes things more difficult for everyone.

    • @jifgif
      @jifgif 2 месяца назад +1

      Well Matt can decline scheduled interviews. It's not the host's problem.

    • @HelmutGranda
      @HelmutGranda 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jifgif the host can also not reach out. He does have the responsibility of self control.

  • @drizmans
    @drizmans 2 месяца назад +13

    WPEngine expecting WP to do all the work and funding that their company runs on is insane. Its frankly irresponsible that they didnt have their own update mirrors and expected WP to front that bill while making hundreds of millions from it.

    • @jbca
      @jbca 2 месяца назад +21

      People asked Matt to add an option to use other mirrors, and he said he’ll never let it happen as long as he’s in charge of WordPress! Like everything else he says, it’s disingenuous: he actually wants people to be use the servers he controls, so he has leverage over them.

    • @Etcher
      @Etcher 2 месяца назад

      ​@jbca when did he say this?

    • @jbca
      @jbca 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Etcher hacker news comments and again in Wordpress slack. I can’t link because RUclips deleted comments when I tried

  • @worldofdaas
    @worldofdaas  2 месяца назад +1

    breaking news. Matt Mullenweg: "I'm engaged in the biggest corporate battle of my life"

  • @jeremyrangel8138
    @jeremyrangel8138 Месяц назад

    It's time for a fork which is, for the most part, a line-by-line copy of Wordpress; similar to the way that MariaDB is to MySQL. So the next time Matt decides to pull this shit, people can move away to a project outside his purview.

  • @SavanVyas91
    @SavanVyas91 2 месяца назад +16

    I support Matt fully, use vs abuse is different silverlake guys wp engine are abusers with no moral authority. All the small creators moaning Matt has never come after them, what hes asking for is only fair. Community grew because he build a sustainable way of building and growing it, most people couldnt have build their business if it wasnt for him. 21 years is long time and lot of years he was solely behind it!

    • @herofoundry
      @herofoundry 2 месяца назад +3

      I first thought you were talking about substance abuse

    • @jackspodcast6320
      @jackspodcast6320 2 месяца назад

      People don't understand that a PR firm has decided how they should feel about this situation.

  • @PaulZeeX
    @PaulZeeX 2 месяца назад

    Woo Hoo! Lotsa Silver Lake / WP Engine trolls on this thread ... bots?

  • @TrevorPhilipsBro
    @TrevorPhilipsBro 2 дня назад

    I work in the Tartan pajama industry and sales are down thanks to this guy.