So as an Irish descendant, I was enslaved by the English. Now centries later because I look like the English (white) I am therefore the same as them and furthermore guilty for all the actions of the English. On top of that, my ancestors were enslaved by North Africans, but I'm told to hold my head in shame for the actions of other whites and African slavery. The English themsleves were brutally colonized by the Romans, the Vikings and the Normans. Its complex, and people want easy answers.
@redsqrds3980 My dear friend, the world does not revolve solely around US history. The English and Vikings enslaved the Irish long before the US ever existed... In fact, Europeans throughout their history enslaved other whites. The outrage these days is that it was done to 'people of colour ' as well.
The ignorant statement from the Tutor that Europe invented slavery on the basis of skin colour and race is fundamentally inaccurate. Factual history matters.
Egyptians enslaved their darker neighbors to the south due to their darker color. That makes raced base slavery from Africa as being the first recorded
This guy's crafty. He poses as an intellectual who's teaching kids to spot bias, all the while he's clearly imposing his agenda on them. He's the academic equivalent of a crooked cop.
The concept of race and how we use it is a fundamentally European invention. The Europeans were the first to state that certain races were meant to be slaves due to their racial makeup and basically made the race of the person their social class in society regardless of anything else. The justification of slavery came from both that racial definition and the doctrine of discovery. Also the enslavement of the races in the European context was meant to be a permanent state.
As someone outside of academia, it’s quite heartening to hear this conversation happening! It brings me hope that much of the divisiveness we’ve experienced over the past 20 years or so is on the verge of being a historical aritifact.
In history, every race viewed themselves as the superior (or at least preferred) race to itself. The only difference between a sub Saharan African tribe seeing themselves as superior to others and European nations feeling the same way is that the European nations were able to inflict this attitude during the colonial era around the world. A difference in scope, not kind. The true difference in kind became when European and European based cultures eventually realized that this belief was wrong and over a few hundred years worked to eliminate this attitude as thoroughly as possible. The 1990s are often seen as the apex of the elimination of racial division among whites, where it was held that no race was intrinsically superior than any other; that the only difference was performative (what you do vs. what you are). White people, generally speaking, moved past the idea of racial identity. Unfortunately, most of the world did not follow suit (which is not surprising. Racial/ethnic identity was the norm for virtually all of human history. In-group preference is even understandable from a Darwinian perspective) and are dragging white people back into that style of thinking. The result is fairly predictable. White people get shamed for being white. It logically follows that the flip side of the coin will appear. White people feeling pride for their racial identity. Again, this isn't any different that what existed for most of human history. Most racial/ethnic groups feel pride/shame for their group depending on the circumstances. Is this how it should be? In what way should race be used as a determiner of value, or should it be used that way at all? If the former, what attributes then make up a 'good' race? Or a 'bad' one?
I agree with @broark88. Some very good points. Especially "White people get shamed for being white. It logically follows that the flip side of the coin will appear. White people feeling pride for their racial identity." is very insightful and true.
hold on... the middle East was purchasing Africans more than 2 centuries before Europeans. If anything we got the idea from the Muslim slave trade. We just had the technology that allowed us to go the West cost of Africa and not the East cost like the Muslims.
Good point, I would add that Africans enslaved other Africans then sold them and not like the professor wrongly claimed that white Europeans enslaved Africans
@taylordr2005 Google present-day slavery in Africa. More than (1 in 100) 18 million people enslaved today. Not 150 years ago. If all definitions of slavery are included (2.9 in 100) 52 million slaves. This includes being forced to be a soldier, sex slavery ect... The numbers throughout Asia are even higher but Asia's much higher population than Africa's 1.8 Billion means Africa has a much higher slaves to population ratio. Keep this quiet. It doesn't help the white man evil narrative. Facts need to be suppressed.
I think a lot of people mistake pride of one's ancestry with pride of one's ancestor's actions. I love my country and I'm comfortable in my pale, freckly skin, but I'm damn sure not proud of slavery, lynching, wrongful arrests and prosecutions, Jim Crow laws, and the genocidal crimes that came with manifest destiny. If history was taught correctly in schools--as observation and objective analysis of all important historical events, rather than the whitewashing from the right or the historical revision from the left--we wouldn't be having silly arguments.
That's the only position that would somewhat justify their actions and beliefs, but it's not their position. Don't rationalize and make excuses for horrible people
It's your life. You don't need to answer for anything. Every culture has done every evil thing you can think of. There are no peaceful people. But some are more talented than others.
I absolutely agree but there is a double standard that starts with the definition of "racist". Ive heard many educated people claim that racism requires power therefore black people can't be racist.
@@far-middleI think it is just a matter of definition. To my knowledge, the sociological definition of racism does require a power imbalance. This is not how any of us outside the academic sphere ever use the term, though, and so I believe it is colloquially correct to say the individuals from all races can be racist/discriminatory to people from other races.
Neither is racist unless it comes with a hatred or feeling of superiority toward other races. However, both are dumb. Pride should be reserved for things you accomplished and positive character traits you developed, not for accidents of birth.
The difference black pride is a slogan whereas white pride is a reality. I see nothing wrong for anyone having pride. However shouting white pride is almost like bragging, because it's a reality. Black Americans have to convince ourselves with slogans. BLACK AND IAM PROUD BLACK PRIDE. It's not to step on any toes and saying that we are better then you.
I wish I could be part of this class, I feel like I would get along with the teacher bc we have some of the same feelings abt important political stuff and topics
Literally every major cultural and scientific contribution to society in the last 500 years was made by a White person. We absolutely should be proud. If you include Asians, then together we have made every contribution to humanity for the past 5000 years.
There’s no such thing as ‘white’ only this or that there are individuals and individual cultures that are completely different from one another. German white people are very different to white people in South Africa or Zimbabwe for instance! Our cultures would get along but we would be brought up completely differently with completely different experiences too! It is exactly the same as for blacks or for any other skin coloured people we are ALL different there is no value in saying all whites or all blacks are this or that this is incredibly dumb!
There used to be different cultures. Actual diversity. Like the Dutch with their windmills and wooden shoes, or the Navaho Indians, or the Eskimos, etc... It wasn't all homogeneous consumer culture with forced, fake skin diversity/division.
Donald Trump has not said it’s okay to be white (even though it is). He has said it’s OK to be an American, be proud to be an American, to put America first, and that includes ALL races.
White privilege is no matter how shit your life gets as a white, black, and coloured people always have it worse. ALWAYS. If you white, there are always Black folk below you doing it worse. That's all there is to say.
@@justlol7281 conquered? is that why white population are decreasing so fast? in Gen Z, white people are now only 50% of the total generation, most of white people are now old people, you sure you conquered others? Africa is still black as it gets, Asia are all homogeneous, single race or single culture made up 90% of their society, and look at your America.... it's getting less and less white
Pretty sure the idea that Europeans enslaving people based on characteristics and so on… that’s not true. Arabs had been enslaving Africans and Europeans since before, and slavery based on ethnicity is as old as humanity…
Jealousy, and fear and pride. Fear of the unknown or different. And pride: having a "godlike" sense of your own superiority over others. (Pride doesn't have to be in an ethnic sense; it can be about anything.)
Ridi 5:34 slavery description is screwed slaves were started through Conquest and War . Europeans didn't start race targeting when the entire Muslim world has been enslaving Africans for generations just on skin color too. This is suppose to be an Itellwctual Professor giving a wrong history facts about slavery and it's history. Being proud to be from somewhere is not proud of skin color or race nationality is different from Race . Why has he not made the distinction.
Trump's alleged "racism" is entirely an invention of the media. If anything, he doesn't pathologize people for loving their country, then the media twists that into approval of historical national sins.
I remember in 1994 getting ready to go to Zaire to help support Rwanda. The slaughter of two groups was so bad that the US said it was to dangerous do to the diseases.
Historically, throughout all human history, there has always been a majority group, race, politically, culturally etc dominate over others. Examples include Rome, Persia, the Uk empire at its height, the imperial Japanese and so many more. In all cases, atrocities are committed when nation building, wars occur, conquests, slavery etc. Sam is correct about multiple cultures having slaves throughout history, however I strongly disagree the concept of “white privledge” there are a lot of poor whites, there have been many other cultures and societies in the past that did things way worse than America has, although our country certainly done plenty of bad things.
Lots of cultures have names for themselves that translates to English as "people " or maybe "The People, " and names for everyone else, even the tribe/clan/group one valley over, as not people, or some lesser people.
Race or skin color is not an achievement so why would you be proud of it? Be proud of yourself for finishing school or something else that was hard work.
I think all this conquering whites you talk about is mostly western European whites. Me as eastern Europeam I don't have and bad feeling about being white...
In Ghana umbrellas cost more Africans than guns. Ten Africans for a gun double for a umbrella. But if I bring this up as a white man I'm racist? The reality is Europeans Purchased slaves. Traded for other goods including umbrellas
We are all human beings on this planet struggling to find our place. Some with more pigment in our skin, some with less. I owe no one anything based on that statement. I owe no one for the sins of any ancestors. Get over it!
I am not ashamed to be white. I’m sick of anti white rhetoric and anti western sentiment.
So as an Irish descendant, I was enslaved by the English. Now centries later because I look like the English (white) I am therefore the same as them and furthermore guilty for all the actions of the English. On top of that, my ancestors were enslaved by North Africans, but I'm told to hold my head in shame for the actions of other whites and African slavery. The English themsleves were brutally colonized by the Romans, the Vikings and the Normans. Its complex, and people want easy answers.
Do you know there is a difference between endentured servants and slaves ?
@redsqrds3980 My dear friend, the world does not revolve solely around US history. The English and Vikings enslaved the Irish long before the US ever existed... In fact, Europeans throughout their history enslaved other whites. The outrage these days is that it was done to 'people of colour ' as well.
@redsqrds3980 My earlier replies seem to be deleted, but to be clear I'm referring to pre-US history.
@@redsqrds3980are you saying all other groups besides African Americans were indentured servants and not slaves?
@@Rob-me8vp"red the dumbfk",' as in commie only uses scotch tape when he tucks in the morning.
The ignorant statement from the Tutor that Europe invented slavery on the basis of skin colour and race is fundamentally inaccurate. Factual history matters.
Egyptians enslaved their darker neighbors to the south due to their darker color. That makes raced base slavery from Africa as being the first recorded
Did we forget about the Arab slave trade and the enslavement of Slavic people?
This guy's crafty. He poses as an intellectual who's teaching kids to spot bias, all the while he's clearly imposing his agenda on them. He's the academic equivalent of a crooked cop.
The concept of race and how we use it is a fundamentally European invention. The Europeans were the first to state that certain races were meant to be slaves due to their racial makeup and basically made the race of the person their social class in society regardless of anything else.
The justification of slavery came from both that racial definition and the doctrine of discovery. Also the enslavement of the races in the European context was meant to be a permanent state.
@@gillmsnfillman1691I think the Aryans in India beat them to it.
As someone outside of academia, it’s quite heartening to hear this conversation happening! It brings me hope that much of the divisiveness we’ve experienced over the past 20 years or so is on the verge of being a historical aritifact.
Segregation wasn't divisive ?
White Guilt is creepy
White Masochism
@@redsqrds3980 No. It was natural. We refuse to be pressured into ignoring our intuition.
@@derp8575 if it was so why was there a need for it to be enforced by law??
In history, every race viewed themselves as the superior (or at least preferred) race to itself. The only difference between a sub Saharan African tribe seeing themselves as superior to others and European nations feeling the same way is that the European nations were able to inflict this attitude during the colonial era around the world. A difference in scope, not kind.
The true difference in kind became when European and European based cultures eventually realized that this belief was wrong and over a few hundred years worked to eliminate this attitude as thoroughly as possible. The 1990s are often seen as the apex of the elimination of racial division among whites, where it was held that no race was intrinsically superior than any other; that the only difference was performative (what you do vs. what you are). White people, generally speaking, moved past the idea of racial identity.
Unfortunately, most of the world did not follow suit (which is not surprising. Racial/ethnic identity was the norm for virtually all of human history. In-group preference is even understandable from a Darwinian perspective) and are dragging white people back into that style of thinking. The result is fairly predictable. White people get shamed for being white. It logically follows that the flip side of the coin will appear. White people feeling pride for their racial identity.
Again, this isn't any different that what existed for most of human history. Most racial/ethnic groups feel pride/shame for their group depending on the circumstances.
Is this how it should be? In what way should race be used as a determiner of value, or should it be used that way at all? If the former, what attributes then make up a 'good' race? Or a 'bad' one?
Excellent points.
I agree with @broark88. Some very good points.
Especially "White people get shamed for being white. It logically follows that the flip side of the coin will appear. White people feeling pride for their racial identity." is very insightful and true.
So the whites are prosecuted for being successful... Makes sense, crabs in a bucket
The difference is White people have the receipts to show we are superior.
hold on... the middle East was purchasing Africans more than 2 centuries before Europeans. If anything we got the idea from the Muslim slave trade. We just had the technology that allowed us to go the West cost of Africa and not the East cost like the Muslims.
Good point, I would add that Africans enslaved other Africans then sold them and not like the professor wrongly claimed that white Europeans enslaved Africans
Very true. The Eastern slave trade started before and ended after the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade.
Already had thriving slave markets and auctions yet some how europeans invented chattel slavery?
@taylordr2005 Google present-day slavery in Africa. More than (1 in 100) 18 million people enslaved today. Not 150 years ago. If all definitions of slavery are included (2.9 in 100) 52 million slaves. This includes being forced to be a soldier, sex slavery ect... The numbers throughout Asia are even higher but Asia's much higher population than Africa's 1.8 Billion means Africa has a much higher slaves to population ratio. Keep this quiet. It doesn't help the white man evil narrative. Facts need to be suppressed.
So? Does that now excuse your treatment of those slaves and their descendants?
What’s the logic here?
I think a lot of people mistake pride of one's ancestry with pride of one's ancestor's actions. I love my country and I'm comfortable in my pale, freckly skin, but I'm damn sure not proud of slavery, lynching, wrongful arrests and prosecutions, Jim Crow laws, and the genocidal crimes that came with manifest destiny. If history was taught correctly in schools--as observation and objective analysis of all important historical events, rather than the whitewashing from the right or the historical revision from the left--we wouldn't be having silly arguments.
That's the only position that would somewhat justify their actions and beliefs, but it's not their position. Don't rationalize and make excuses for horrible people
It's your life. You don't need to answer for anything. Every culture has done every evil thing you can think of. There are no peaceful people. But some are more talented than others.
Which ahem, group, ended slavery first?
What is the difference between being proud to be white and being proud to be black? If white pride is racist then black pride is racist.
I absolutely agree but there is a double standard that starts with the definition of "racist". Ive heard many educated people claim that racism requires power therefore black people can't be racist.
@@far-middleI think it is just a matter of definition. To my knowledge, the sociological definition of racism does require a power imbalance. This is not how any of us outside the academic sphere ever use the term, though, and so I believe it is colloquially correct to say the individuals from all races can be racist/discriminatory to people from other races.
Neither is racist unless it comes with a hatred or feeling of superiority toward other races. However, both are dumb. Pride should be reserved for things you accomplished and positive character traits you developed, not for accidents of birth.
The difference black pride is a slogan whereas white pride is a reality. I see nothing wrong for anyone having pride. However shouting white pride is almost like bragging, because it's a reality. Black Americans have to convince ourselves with slogans. BLACK AND IAM PROUD BLACK PRIDE. It's not to step on any toes and saying that we are better then you.
@@Jim-m9v Because you know you're not? Man, that's deep self loathing
Only 2-3% of the slaves from triangle trade ended up in the American colonies. The rest became slaves in the Caribbean, and Central and South America.
I wish I could be part of this class, I feel like I would get along with the teacher bc we have some of the same feelings abt important political stuff and topics
Literally every major cultural and scientific contribution to society in the last 500 years was made by a White person. We absolutely should be proud. If you include Asians, then together we have made every contribution to humanity for the past 5000 years.
STOP THE CAP!!!
White people are awesome!
❤❤❤❤
:D
There’s no such thing as ‘white’ only this or that there are individuals and individual cultures that are completely different from one another. German white people are very different to white people in South Africa or Zimbabwe for instance! Our cultures would get along but we would be brought up completely differently with completely different experiences too! It is exactly the same as for blacks or for any other skin coloured people we are ALL different there is no value in saying all whites or all blacks are this or that this is incredibly dumb!
There used to be different cultures. Actual diversity. Like the Dutch with their windmills and wooden shoes, or the Navaho Indians, or the Eskimos, etc...
It wasn't all homogeneous consumer culture with forced, fake skin diversity/division.
Proud of my culture and ancestry…not skin color.
😂😂 Europeans 😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Donald Trump has not said it’s okay to be white (even though it is). He has said it’s OK to be an American, be proud to be an American, to put America first, and that includes ALL races.
Im white i grew up dirt poor like really poor eating wild animals and bathing in state parks
Why did you invent slavery? You should be ashamed.
@@DadaPoopoo you got conquered. Keep crying.
@@justlol7281Satire
White privilege is no matter how shit your life gets as a white, black, and coloured people always have it worse. ALWAYS. If you white, there are always Black folk below you doing it worse. That's all there is to say.
@@justlol7281 conquered? is that why white population are decreasing so fast? in Gen Z, white people are now only 50% of the total generation, most of white people are now old people, you sure you conquered others? Africa is still black as it gets, Asia are all homogeneous, single race or single culture made up 90% of their society, and look at your America.... it's getting less and less white
I would love to be in this class. But would definitely let them know when this white thing started.
OBAMA
Pretty sure the idea that Europeans enslaving people based on characteristics and so on… that’s not true. Arabs had been enslaving Africans and Europeans since before, and slavery based on ethnicity is as old as humanity…
He seems to be ignoring the enormous Arab slave trade by claiming that Europeans invented race-based slavery.
Jealousy always breeds hate and hate breeds racism
Jealousy, and fear and pride. Fear of the unknown or different. And pride: having a "godlike" sense of your own superiority over others. (Pride doesn't have to be in an ethnic sense; it can be about anything.)
Have you seen the TV show Survivor? The best strategy to win is to create a tribe of people with common immutable characteristics.
This is absolutely unprecedented. Fantastical.
How is pride involved in skin color? Is it a choice?
Ridi 5:34 slavery description is screwed slaves were started through Conquest and War . Europeans didn't start race targeting when the entire Muslim world has been enslaving Africans for generations just on skin color too. This is suppose to be an Itellwctual Professor giving a wrong history facts about slavery and it's history. Being proud to be from somewhere is not proud of skin color or race nationality is different from Race . Why has he not made the distinction.
It's about damn time
Trump never says anything about being white. Ever.
Trump's alleged "racism" is entirely an invention of the media. If anything, he doesn't pathologize people for loving their country, then the media twists that into approval of historical national sins.
My dude, he said Latino immigrants were poisoning the blood of America lol. He dog whistles for white supremacists all the time.
I remember in 1994 getting ready to go to Zaire to help support Rwanda. The slaughter of two groups was so bad that the US said it was to dangerous do to the diseases.
10:58 its actually celebrating the creation of a new nation and culture. The bringing of civilization to a new land
He’s making alot of illogical statements that contradict themselves
I see Black privelege all the time. United Airlines hiring for example
And more than half of United airlines staff is White…
Keep whining….
Feel safe flying?
Historically, throughout all human history, there has always been a majority group, race, politically, culturally etc dominate over others. Examples include Rome, Persia, the Uk empire at its height, the imperial Japanese and so many more. In all cases, atrocities are committed when nation building, wars occur, conquests, slavery etc. Sam is correct about multiple cultures having slaves throughout history, however I strongly disagree the concept of “white privledge” there are a lot of poor whites, there have been many other cultures and societies in the past that did things way worse than America has, although our country certainly done plenty of bad things.
Lots of cultures have names for themselves that translates to English as "people " or maybe "The People, " and names for everyone else, even the tribe/clan/group one valley over, as not people, or some lesser people.
The losers always claim unfair
Nobody cared what the losers claim before WW2. The allies learned that when you give excessive punishment to a losing country it can come back to bite
Race or skin color is not an achievement so why would you be proud of it? Be proud of yourself for finishing school or something else that was hard work.
Europeans don't know racist theories originated in Europe...?!
Uhm, German here.
We know. 😅
German here, you’ve been lied but by all means, keep hating yourself and your country. That means the propaganda and psyop’s have worked.
Class
I think all this conquering whites you talk about is mostly western European whites. Me as eastern Europeam I don't have and bad feeling about being white...
Woke nonsense😂
What is?
It amazes me how all of the indigenous people were peaceful, and were one with the land.
AND To be correct we didn't take or steal Africans
We
Purchased them from other Africans.
You were Purchased Not Stolen
That's human trafficking
That means no reparations, but refunds!!
I'm actually proud to be of western European descent...beats all other options.
In Ghana umbrellas cost more Africans than guns.
Ten Africans for a gun double for a umbrella.
But if I bring this up as a white man I'm racist?
The reality is Europeans Purchased slaves.
Traded for other goods including umbrellas
We are all human beings on this planet struggling to find our place. Some with more pigment in our skin, some with less. I owe no one anything based on that statement. I owe no one for the sins of any ancestors. Get over it!
July is White Heritage Month
LOL