Is Apple Doing Client-Side Scanning on Your Devices?
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- We need an answer and this video will give you one. There are conflicting answers on the Interwebs about whether or not Apple is scanning your device content.
Previously you heard that Apple was scanning phones for CSAM content and then Apple suspended that project. But in a Louis Rossmann Video, it showed that images triggered some communication with Apple.
Then other researchers said that was not true and it was debunked. So what's the truth. Find out.
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These people are going to ruin society
They already did. Were you just born after COVID or what?
@@csartelo-hl2zm further ruin 😩
Too late, they already have.
Apple puts a policeman in your iphone. What a wonderful thought. Welcome to 1984. On steroids.
Wifi off, data off, device off, wrap it in aluminium foil when you don't use it.
Their 1984 ad for the first Mac was just a mocking of what was to come 😂
Not police a rogue spy
Pay CASH EVERYWHERE you go people, it's EXTREEMLY IMPORTANT, just do it
@@kidvision564 it ends up being police at your door when the AI finds something that is contrary to the thousands of laws on the books.
If Apple has trained an AI on CSAM they must have a huge library of CSAM to train the AI on. Maybe Apple needs a bit of 'client side scanning" done and some anonymous reporting...
Even though it’s bad, it’s for the greater good so we should let it pass. I’m not sure how they’re going to prevent it , if the ai is not trained.
@@the_god_killah Greater good? Oh brother ...
@@the_god_killah It has very little or nothing to do with CSAM. It is only a cover to introduce the technology.
@@Justfun-nk3vj oh ok ,in that case then its bad
Greater good 😂😂😂 someone here is very naive. Sorry to say @@the_god_killah
Apples been caught spying a few times and legal action had been taken. So this wouldn't surprise me at all.
Maybe that's where they got their 'huge library of CSAM' that is required to train such a model. Trained on covert images of peoples children?
@@beyondpc9421 Yeah, anything like that could be used in a bad way.
"Protecting the children" will always be their way in. unfortunately, we all know this is just a cover up.
Government pretends to care for children but legalized abortion. The devil will always try to appear as the good guy.
If they really wanted to protect children they should make laws that punish parents that do not supervise their children, just like you don't give a car and the keys to a child they should not have access to unlocked smartphones and computers, devices specially made for children would be better.
Corre t, they are protecting themselves because they're probably pedophiles 👍
Are we being spied on? Maybe better question is who all is spying on us?
Corporation's, corporations spy more than the gov
i cant believe this is still a genuine question anymore but at least its being discussed
Three letter agencies owned by the ultra wealthy.
Maybe the really important question is, who isn't spying on us?
And now Microsoft’s new AI op system that snapshots all your work, learns everything about you to mine every aspect of your life so you become a node in the matrix that can be “flushed “ if you step out of line.
This is definitely bugging me
I am actually in tech stock investment, and what is frightening ? In the name of advancement civilization " they " want to to implement A.I in all kind of devices. Including cell phone, laptops, servers, smart homes, cars.
The plan is to act like you, so when they lock you down again or you go missing, no one will know it is you or the AI version of you.
That shit is getting stripped from my system and if it breaks my system I'm installing Linux
@@viper92677 Im runni g Linux on my M1 Max Macbook via UTM Kali Linux Ubuntu and Raw Debian 12. Works flawlessly.
Are we being spied on? Yes, voluntarily…..Do we have slavery? Yes, voluntarily…through our dependence debt and government ….
To quote Marvel’s the winter soldier…We realized we couldn’t take away people’s freedom, so we created a situation so chaotic, they gave it to us…FISA law expanded, Patriot Act, TikTok ban bill…..we never learn
Can Apple PUT a photo onto your phone? The ramifications of this should be obvious.
Samsung had a file server on the Android side that could be accessed from the radio firmware. That fileserver could put new files and also delete files. Now why would the radio need that sort of functionality? For all I know, they still have that in the latest phones.
The fact they put U2 on every IPhone shows they can do anything.
Worse; what if they put it in your cloud where it never gets deleted even if you try?
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. '
Thanks for covering this.
You are the man!
As I type this on my iPhone 😩
we need privacy laws in place now and make them retroactive that no app or company be allowed to do client side scanning without their permission.
You give apple permission when you buy the phone… it’s all in the small print you agree to
One of the problems is that even though you pay exorbitant amounts for these devices and their software, they don't simply consider you a customer, they also consider you a product that they can sell to governments and other corporations as well.
And that’s why I’ll never get again an other MacBook. Their company shall go bankrupt
When s it's free YOU are the product.
And also when it's not free.
Outstanding analysis and commentary! Thank you immensely for this disturbing information.
Lol, that second/last sentence.
🤣🤣🤣 Oops! We "accidentally" created a bug that skims every piece of YOUR data and sends it to Mega-Corporations. Our bad 😂
And governments.
All that is hidden is being revealed now, They have no were to hide ❤😊. Thank you.
What an unfortunate, "bug".
I bet they feel really bad about it.
Help us Milo!
That's what all the AI cores are for - client-side scanning and analysis. Then it phones home.
Well that explains why my iPhone SE 2022 is suddenly really laggy and annoying to use. I don't ever photograph kiddos for any reason, so there should be no reason it's scanning my photos. I take photos and videos of my backyard flock, dogs, and items I resell on eBay.
/evil overlord voice on/
your pictures on an iphone are helping to train the system.
thank you for your compliance serf.
/evil overlord voice off/
@@pauldwalker Thank you, best comment.
@@seanlacroix pauldwalker is right
I’m going to delete all my photos and just have a thousand replicas of one butt shot of my arce. They can scan that all they want!😂
Windows is trying to do the same thing with their recall ai
I love Louis. No matter how angry he gets, he barely shows emotion. He is like a psychopath on the good guys team as opposed to psychopath CEOs of the big tech companies 😂
Ans here I am loading up my M4T1
do you happen to know the particular video Louis made that Rob has referred to a few times?
Thank you for your videos! They are useful and informative!
Excellent info thanks for this great video
It's always about protection.
@Rob Braxman. Congrats on getting mentioned on Joe Rogan podcast 2154. He mentioned you. Congrats
Was this recent? He hasn't mentioned me since 3 years ago.
Who"s podcast?????? Waaaaaww,,,, please, (I can't say more) . I hope you get what I mean.
@@robbraxmantech I could tell you why but my comment will fly, fly away, my flamingo,,,,, (stay far).
@Robbraxmantech last episode 2154 , 53 minutes in the podcast Joe Rogan speaks about you👍🏻💪
Yes
If possible, you should not use hardware or software that is outright equipped with features that work against the interests of its users. For example, copy protection, dongle, product activation, digital rights/restrictions management, client-side scanning, etc.
I'm not referring to hidden spying interfaces from three-letter agencies, otherwise you wouldn't be supposed to use hardware or software at all.
If you use a DVD player or a Blu-ray player or have a Netflix account and own a television you are supporting digital Rights Management.
@@basspig None of that
@@basspig DRM has a hard time with me.😁
❌DVD player
❌Blu-ray player
❌Netflix account
✔Television
On my Macbook I used Activity Monitor to watch mediaanalysisd. To establish a baseline I watched the process for 5 minutes while making sure I did nothing else on the mac. Then I opened a .png image in the Preview app. Five seconds later, mediaanalysisd’s Threads jumped from an average of 2 to 14. Two seconds later it dropped back to 2.
This isn’t scientific, but it certainly convinces me that I need to watch this closer.
Does it only scan images opened in the Preview app?
Might be a good time to look at the new Windows feature. It's beginning to sound very similar although it doesn't seem to share data YET. "Recall takes snapshots of your screen and stores them in a timeline. Snapshots are taken every five seconds while content on the screen is different from the previous snapshot. Snapshots are locally stored and locally analyzed on your PC."
do all windows versions have this?
@@linsqopiring6816 It's brand new, Windows 11, and I don't believe all hardware supports it. It will likely be in all new Window machines.
@@jmr/videos Yea, I was researching just now and Microsoft is talking about rolling it out win 10 and also having it be deployed on win11 and starting at boot without the user's consent
Microsoft shame!
@@linsqopiring6816 Interesting I didn't hear about Windows 10 getting the new feature. This is looking more and more like a great time for people to think about switching to Linux. There's only one program I miss(Fusion360).
Rob, excellent analysis. But, please please stop those annoying cuts, it so distracting…. Please.
Greetings from Poland. 🇵🇱!
I'd rather him focus on content then seamless cuts myself.
What happen if this mechanism will be hacked and will scan for bank account, private keys, etc? This is madness.
Yea I’m shore they are!!
You are an incredible canary in a mine!!!
Yes but we also need to do our own bit
Isn't the same being done by Windows co-pilot / one drive?
I wouldn't be surprised. Though the easiest place to scan is via Windows Defender. It's already a scanner. But Intel computers have no AI chip so it's not as sophisticated
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I'm a conspiracy theorist and PROUD OF IT!!!!
Rob, I’ve seen the new privacy phone the UnPlugged phone, can you do a video on if it’s really secure or just another android, the creator has compared it to de googled phones , would love to hear your opinion on this unplugged phone
Do a full search on Erik Prince. Take notes. Then research his $1000 phone. You will be happy you did.
Hi Rob, do you have any idea what could be the reason why YT videos on my smartphone stop after about 25 seconds and nothing comes after that. Is it a YT strike or a virus?
Quck!…..😂😂😭 that caught me off guard.
- 00:03🔍 Discussion begins on whether Apple is scanning device content.
- 00:12📸 Client-side scanning explained as local device scanning for content.
- 00:20🖥 Controversy started from Lewis Rossman's RUclips channel about Macs sending data to Apple.
- 00:35🔄 Media Analysis D module detected communicating with Apple when media was displayed.
- 01:07❌ Debunking attempts misunderstood the client-side scanning concept.
- 01:50🔍 Aim to analyze if Apple is conducting client-side scanning.
- 02:13📱 Explanation of Apple’s CESAM technology for scanning photos on devices.
- 02:59📵 Apple suspended CESAM project after public backlash, but the scanning code remains.
- 03:31🖥 Research by Jeffrey Paul showed media analysis D communicating with Apple.
- 04:05🔓 Little Snitch firewall software used to detect data transmission from Mac.
- 04:23🧐 Claims of debunking client-side scanning based on limited data are incorrect.
- 05:06🔒 Media Analysis D has root privileges and communicates with Apple through Rapport D.
- 06:22🔍 Researchers' methods may miss threats; need to consider pre-encryption scanning.
- 07:02🛡 Security researchers may not detect side-channel or delayed transmissions.
- 08:07🔍 Analysis of Media Analysis D scanning photos and creating neural hashes.
- 09:57🖥 Media Analysis D on Macs is definitely scanning images.
- 10:31🖼 AI-generated neural hashes for photos suggest non-pixel-based image recognition.
- 11:06🤖 Media Analysis D scans images and possibly uploads AI models for training.
- 12:00👁 Potential surveillance risks of AI scanning photos without user consent.
- 12:55📜 Government agencies advocated for pre-encryption scanning after San Bernardino attack.
- 13:49🔐 Neural hashes likely not sent to Apple; AI scanning could use encrypted local analysis.
- 15:00🕵♂ Client-side scanning may occur without visible traffic, using side-channel methods.
- 16:27🛰 Side-channel transmissions via Apple's mesh network make detection difficult.
- 17:50🤖 Major investment in client-side scanning tech indicates broader surveillance capabilities.
- 18:45📱 New AI chips in Apple and Google devices suggest enhanced scanning potential.
- 19:05🔍 AI chips allow extensive content scanning but are controlled by tech companies.
Thanks Rob for your efforts. I'll not touch iphone ever
good call, the thing probably has fingerprint sensors all over it too
Tim is looking for pics for his personal collection.
His husband has them all.
@@ArtOfHealth they probably look at them together and play kill, bang, marry.
@@eprofessiowhat is that?
What happened to the Brax phones ? Why don't you speak about it ?
They are sold out. So awaiting the next model
No
So.
Yes Apple is doing it, so as Google (with Pixel) maybe Samsung too.
We gotta start deciding what we want:
1. Don't give a shit and do as we do, and have a semi safe state of mind.
2. Go all in and just blown out minds.
How are my pictures sorted by, "art" , "car" etc. ?
AI CLASSIFIER
I'm thinking that one way to address this issue would be to simply install Asahi/Fedora linux and run only from there. I've been using it on my Macbook Pro and it is working well enough to be a daily driver. The thing I'm not sure of is if there is anything lurking in Apple's firmware and/or boot loader that would run prior to booting Asahi.
I got an update for Ipad that said fixes error that Apple Icloud reloads deleted photes back onto devices. Apples keeps everything forever.
You show do video about the new Co-Pilot that Microsoft announced Where the idea of watching everything you do can also be used to send data to law enforcement.
this!
I have a question. Does Iphone take pictures and screen snapshots without the users consent. I noticed a lot of photos and even screen snapshots that I know I didn't take.
Apple was more like "ok, that *specific* thing, we won't do. But other client side scanning? we never said we *wouldn't* do that"
Yea as far as Microsoft they say it only happens when ur useing the edge browser!!
F what they say
The edge browser scans your hard drive and the AI analyzes your photos? Or it just AI analyzes the photos on the websites you visit?
Unable to log into your website. Keep getting message "Time out went to sleep"
Modern cars also have the ability to record personal information from your phones, cars are now connected to the internet so every thing you do is recorded, Cars can be controlled remotely with the internet or using Geofencing . No one will have control anymore,, Big Brother is taking that away !!
Good thing nobody can those new POS 2020+ cars
It's not only apple.but most android cellphone too.
How the hell do you
Read the analytical report on Apple phone. Some of tve verbiage seem intimidating. What should we be aware of in terms of these codes and words
Media Analysis Daemon
Why not for Verizon?
Verizon does not support it
It's not just Apple with Client Side Scanning ! Google Gemini has the ability to scan personal content and work out which pictures are of you children swimming !! and phones using Google Gemini can listen to conversations so to improve the Google Gemini AI experience so it can seem more human omg !!!!!!!!!!!! ( what happened to privacy )
Don't youse iCloud.
of course they've been doing that. no suprise
Which phones on your site can use micro SD cards?
Can I transfer my number to your system?
Only BraX2 supports micro SD and that's sold out. You can transfer your number to any carrier. That has nothing to do with the phone.
There goes the selling point of why to buy an iPhone…. Buy a phone bc the camera is better…
Yea exactly I cope data AI smooth phone code connection with android phone and iPhone and set with speaker audio automatically and full screen scanning tracking on all tech platforms Camara
Thanks. Do you think that David Bombal knows this? He has a Mac PC.
Apple bypasses lil snitch in recent versions ..
I just got a new mbp m3 pro. this thing is overpriced, but a nice machine, and yes, I feel all my data and files are not exposed , and I OF COURSE don't have any of that cssam but I still don't trust the system.
👍👍👍👍
this collection of data is the same AS ADDS HERE ON RUclips = YES = EVERY TIME YOU OPEN A PAGE = ITS TIED DIRECTLY TO ADVERTISING MARKETING FIRMS = """ YES """ !!!
Think about people who put cameras up
Rob, can you do a video on Apple's daemon called knowledge-agent. I found it running periodically at ~100% CPU, draining my battery and causing my MacBook Pro M1 to heat up. It looks at your entire hard drive, scanning it and sending god knows what back to Apple. I had to go into System Settings to find the configuration settings for it. It comes enabled by default to scan ALL your data. It didn't like when I told it not to scan my entire drive. Please warn people!
My goodness we'll never run out of these zucking daemons. I heard of RapportD as well.
With these phones that have been degoogled wouldn't there be a problem running banking applications because Knox has been tripped?
My bank apps work. Some bank apps won't because they want "Google Safety Net". So it's individual.
Go to the bank
@@robbraxmantech that's a concern. I rely on my phone to deposit customer checks.
Why the hell would anybody want to run a banking app on their phone anyway? That's just dumb
@@dreammix9430 because the PC web version doesn't do check deposits.
theres nothing to debunk, apple were pretty much public about the whole thing
They publicly said they suspended the project. If you think that's true then that's what this video is for.
My friend,,,, HOLD THE LINE, please, do something, anything,,,, (I like aluminium foil).
So the question is….. which researcher is going to be the first to put actual CSAM on their phone or Mac to see if it sends a “yes” back to apple hq?
Or could it, through AI, assemble the “benign “ data in a way that is actually code that when decoded at Apple, gives a report of activ😢their looking for?🤔😎
Watch your back man.
Hello, is there a way to protect oneself or get away from the Gang stalkers who use undetectable technology to speak to the human brain or skill. I'm tortured for the last 4 days, also energy weapons attack, pls speak on this matter... no idea how they are connecting me remotely and wirelessly....
If you need someone with Mac silicon and the latest iOS I have those
I would need to test it myself
Just checked my firewall, under macOS modules nothing under mediaanalysisd sending traffic.
watch the video
@@robbraxmantech I watched the whole video. The flag was traffic from mediaanalysisd. I have ran lil snitch since ver3, wireshark has been capturing for 2 years. If this was the case I would be able to see some empty packets?
In the video you said you have had no personal experience or logs for you to check, I do.
@@robbraxmantech updated to ver6 lil snitch yesterday. So the logs don’t lie. I understand you have a hypothesis though.
i have multiple terminal logs. they are using a blackhole proxy and gatekeeper XPC to send api calls to apple to coordinate with the onboard chip, they append the hash as metadata and send it all back to a server on apple side. hence why previous ppl who only dug surface level and didn't use grep and terminal to pull the logs and re what was discovered, bc a black hole proxy routes any sniffers to null
@@gh0stpyram1d you can stop liking your own comments lol. What api calls are being used, can you post these magic logs and hashes somewhere lul
I believe the engine of scanning is from Michel soft and she hi for long time me no apple
I like it when you go on Apple friendly forms and when somebody asks how to basically devorce your device from Apple, people loose their cool and start preaching to you, how bad it is what you are doing.
My iPhone is clean. I dont use tiktok, instagram or the corn hub on it. Use it only for bussiness, keeping in touch and video- photo use. I do have a android with tiktok, instagram and for corn hub use that doesn't have any personal fotos. I think its a good idea to have a burner and your personal
No phone is clean. This is all built into the chip and runs in the background. It can't be accessed or modified. He has another video on how the iphone is constantly transmitting and connecting to all Apple devices within a short distance and reporting back to HQ.
I don't trust apple
Rob my phone will not connect to Wi-Fi unless the SIM card is in. I know the police are messing with my network and devices.
I removed the SIM card then factory reset. I connect to wifi without SIM card and it will not connect. It shows I connected for a split second then it disappears and shows I have no connection.
My router shows that I’m connected, which means police have persistent malware that can withstand a factory reset, AND block your device from using internet until you put a SIM card in
l was banned on youbtube for 24 hours for hate speech
If you truly value your privacy & security you would not use Apple products... simples/
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I hereby promise to willingly donate all my intelligence, motives, secrets and data to all the big AI companies and Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet and the rest with the hope that I will help the world. Thank you Rob!
I looked at my photo gallery and found no kiddy porn, so nothing to worry about I guess. Then, many of the pictures I forgot to erase were QR codes used with Bitcoin transactions. Nothing bad could happen with these photos, could it?
So dont save your photo's to photo's ... If you for example receive a photo in a messenger app such as whatspp, LINE & so forth then don't save it
Why do you think this can scan only in a photos folder? What exactly is the logic that would limit that?
This tech is on iOS not on Android.... I'm not worried.
Incorrect. AI chips added to Pixel 6 and later.
@@robbraxmantech 😏 still not worried....I have old prepaid phone.
You SHOULD BE
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