The higher rib provides for good visibility around the gun and quick target acquisition. An added benefit is the low recoil due to a “heads-up” shooting position.
I have had trouble shooting high ribbed guns and always went back to my low ribbed guns. I must be old school because my best scores are with an old Browning Superposed Broadway trap and a Winchester 101 trap. At yardage, an old Pigeon grade Winchester Model 12. I agree that lower ribs work well with instinctive shooting, (watching the target and not the barrel and pulling the trigger).
shot trap competitively 15 years ago with an 870 express with a 30", short ribbed barrel. just getting back into it, have since converted my 870 into a home defense gun with a 20" smooth barrel. tried it out last week because it's all I have at the moment, shot an 18/25 and a 20/25. headed back into competition, I've seriously been considering a Beretta multitarget. my skepticism lied in whether or not I should get a high ribbed gun due to shooting well years back with my 870. at 5'6" with a relatively short neck, I really think I'm going to get an a400 sporting, as nice as that multitarget is.
Just bought a high rib Browning 725 because it's the only one that felt natural when I did a test swing in the store. Will let you know if I screwed up after I actually shoot it.
Because of my longer neck I just put a homemade 20mm high rib and higher comb on the stock on my Beretta 692 and it instantly changed my shooting to be more relaxed and effortless - it is just more comfortable to mount the gun. I haven't found any disadvantages to a higher rib, just that incomers and outgoers are even easier to hit. I am for sure going to buy a proper high rib and get it mounted, The only issue being right now ... I cannot find a company that produces these high ribs to a reasonable price.
@@rogerpace9322 Exactly ... it eliminates the constant head crouching and neck pressing down towards the stock, that everybody in Skeet seems to be doing. Ever since I added this high rib I'm much quicker on the targets and most of the breaks are much cleaner, to such an extent that the more experienced shooters and even instructors have started noticing - asking about it and wanting to try my setup. However the strange thing is that many Skeet shooters seem to think that high ribs are for Trap shooting only, so I am getting alot of comments suggesting that I am slightly crazy bringing a high rib to the Skeet field. Anyway the results speak for themselves in the end and I would be a fool not to hold on to a setup that is feeling so much better to operate.
Hi Roger, is your 690 a sporting clays or trap model? From what I see in America it would be considered a sporting gun, but I'm sure the models vary from region to region. Thank you for the fine videos.
As a newcomer to clay shooting, I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm looking at purchasing a new shotgun as my current old boom stick doesn't fit me very well and I think it's causing me to pick up some bad habits. I've been considering high ribs as I have a long neck that's good a fair amount of degradation so I'd prefer a more upright stance. In looking at this I keep wondering why manufacturers don't offer more drop options. If a stock had 30-50mm more drop fr example and an adjustable comb then it would effectively do the same thing as a high rib so I'm really not sure why this isn't something that's an option. The only reason I can think of is the additional weight of stock. Any thoughts on this?
Justin try and shoot a few rounds with a high rib gun and then youll know if you like it...you are right some manufacturers do not offer a large amount of height adjustment on the comb.
Great video roger! I am looking to buy a gun and I am seriously considering buying one with an adjustable butt plate, could you explain if it is worth it eg the advantages and disadvantages? Cheers.
Duffman...great question...the more things you can adjust on a gun the better it is...we want the gun to shoot where we look because we never look at the barrels...so yes it is definitely worth it...but once we have adjusted the gun ...we need to avoid the temptation to always keep fiddling and adjusting...stay well
@@rogerpace9322 Roger - I enjoy listening to experienced shooters advice like yours, thanks for your advice. There's so much marketing bull***t out there these days by the gun manufacturers to try and make you buy the latest trend in tech gizmo novelty features. Like you say, look at the target, not the gun and if the gun is mounted consistently and fitted to you correctly, I believe it will smash most of the clays all day long - both eyes open, regardless of master eye vs. right or left handed shooter 👍👍
I have a high rib installed on my 410 O/U. If you look at the height measured at the end of the barrel on a 12 gauge, from the bottom barrel to the top of the rib it will normally be at least 1/2" or more taller than a 410, or 1/4 to 3/8" taller than a 20 gauge. Think about that for a second,, similar firearms, you have to "scrunched" down to get the same sight picture on the 20 and 410, to match that of the 12. High ribs make lots of sense, depending on the firearm and clay game you are playing.
No arguments from me... what you say makes sense and it obviously works for you. Sorry for the late reply. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
How's your score percentage in your last 200 targets roger doing any good with the new gun, I had the pitch changed on my gun in September at the commonwealth carnival in Griffith nsw made a world of difference to my scores,shot 128/150 in the point score earlier in that morning, had the pitch changed after some advice Then went out to the 50 db,shot 49/50,just made it to A grade last weekend,
Beau...congratulations on making it to A Grade I am just on the cusp of making it to B grade ...but one poor round and your percentage is shot...glad to hear that pitch has made a difference...it is something that is often overlooked...heartiest congratulations on making it to A Grade...Good on you!
Beau...how's your shooting going...I'm still in C grade ...but shooting well and winning quite a few events......I need to get into b grade or people will start to think I'm staying in c grade on purpose...you only need one bad round and there goes your 90%...stay well and happy shooting
Eric...you could correct gun canting by moving the butt plate left or right if you have an adjustable butt plate otherwise you've got to be aware of it when the gun is mounted...the gun can also be canted when you swing to the target and the shooter may not be aware of it.
It's OK if you're only going to shoot trap...if you are also wanting to shoot skeet...that's a different story...I really wanted removable chokes but they didn't have one in stock...the only upside is you don't have to clean them...stay well and happy new year
raised rib, stepped rib, two different styles of rib, raised its lifted up off barrel and runs closer to parallel with bore, they are not ment to shoot high. stepped rib, raised at back falls toward muzzle they are ment to shoot high. remember many who shoot flat rib guns shoot them with a high comb so their looking over the rib or down at the bead so that the gun shoots high. ones no more natural then the other its all in what you prefer
Thanks for explaining things so simply & easy for new shooters to understand.
My pleasure! ...and thanks for watching. !!!
excellent explanation for the high and low rib, Roger. Great video again good sir
Good on you Ralph ...and thanks for watching.
The higher rib provides for good visibility around the gun and quick target acquisition. An added benefit is the low recoil due to a “heads-up” shooting position.
Very true!
Thank you. Alot of good information for a new shooter.
Hal...you are very welcome...my pleasure!
Thanks Roger.An excellent presentation again.
jamie ...thank you and much appreciated!
You never lose sight of the target with a high rib gun.
I have had trouble shooting high ribbed guns and always went back to my low ribbed guns. I must be old school because my best scores are with an old Browning Superposed Broadway trap and a Winchester 101 trap. At yardage, an old Pigeon grade Winchester Model 12. I agree that lower ribs work well with instinctive shooting, (watching the target and not the barrel and pulling the trigger).
popoaggie...agree with you 100%...I would only want a high rib gun if I had a really long neck...stay well and thanks
shot trap competitively 15 years ago with an 870 express with a 30", short ribbed barrel.
just getting back into it, have since converted my 870 into a home defense gun with a 20" smooth barrel. tried it out last week because it's all I have at the moment, shot an 18/25 and a 20/25.
headed back into competition, I've seriously been considering a Beretta multitarget. my skepticism lied in whether or not I should get a high ribbed gun due to shooting well years back with my 870.
at 5'6" with a relatively short neck, I really think I'm going to get an a400 sporting, as nice as that multitarget is.
David...not everyone likes a high ribbed gun...so i think your reasoning is very sound...thanks and stay well...good luck with the shooting !!!
Good job Roger. Who would think shooting would be so complicated.
How very true!!!
What are the companies that produce high ribs that could be put on the existing gun? 10:00 Wanna buy several and try. Thanks for the idea!
Your gun shop should be able to advise you on the manufacturers ...good luck and happy shooting!!!
Just bought a high rib Browning 725 because it's the only one that felt natural when I did a test swing in the store. Will let you know if I screwed up after I actually shoot it.
I believe I have along neck. :---)
Kevin so how have you been shooting with it ?
@@rogerpace9322 only twice. About 120 rounds so far.
Because of my longer neck I just put a homemade 20mm high rib and higher comb on the stock on my Beretta 692 and it instantly changed my shooting to be more relaxed and effortless - it is just more comfortable to mount the gun. I haven't found any disadvantages to a higher rib, just that incomers and outgoers are even easier to hit. I am for sure going to buy a proper high rib and get it mounted, The only issue being right now ... I cannot find a company that produces these high ribs to a reasonable price.
Yes ...now you don't have to crouch down with your head!!!
@@rogerpace9322 Exactly ... it eliminates the constant head crouching and neck pressing down towards the stock, that everybody in Skeet seems to be doing. Ever since I added this high rib I'm much quicker on the targets and most of the breaks are much cleaner, to such an extent that the more experienced shooters and even instructors have started noticing - asking about it and wanting to try my setup. However the strange thing is that many Skeet shooters seem to think that high ribs are for Trap shooting only, so I am getting alot of comments suggesting that I am slightly crazy bringing a high rib to the Skeet field. Anyway the results speak for themselves in the end and I would be a fool not to hold on to a setup that is feeling so much better to operate.
Hi Roger, is your 690 a sporting clays or trap model? From what I see in America it would be considered a sporting gun, but I'm sure the models vary from region to region. Thank you for the fine videos.
As a newcomer to clay shooting, I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm looking at purchasing a new shotgun as my current old boom stick doesn't fit me very well and I think it's causing me to pick up some bad habits. I've been considering high ribs as I have a long neck that's good a fair amount of degradation so I'd prefer a more upright stance. In looking at this I keep wondering why manufacturers don't offer more drop options. If a stock had 30-50mm more drop fr example and an adjustable comb then it would effectively do the same thing as a high rib so I'm really not sure why this isn't something that's an option. The only reason I can think of is the additional weight of stock. Any thoughts on this?
Justin try and shoot a few rounds with a high rib gun and then youll know if you like it...you are right some manufacturers do not offer a large amount of height adjustment on the comb.
Another great video Rojer thank you
My pleasure and thank you !!!
Great video roger! I am looking to buy a gun and I am seriously considering buying one with an adjustable butt plate, could you explain if it is worth it eg the advantages and disadvantages? Cheers.
Duffman...great question...the more things you can adjust on a gun the better it is...we want the gun to shoot where we look because we never look at the barrels...so yes it is definitely worth it...but once we have adjusted the gun ...we need to avoid the temptation to always keep fiddling and adjusting...stay well
Had tapered high ribs made from Add-A-Rib for my 686 and 725. shot much better with my head upright then looking through the top of my eyes.
Diamond...very very true...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!
I think this is good advice Roger !!
Dale...good on you and thanks!!!
@@rogerpace9322 Roger - I enjoy listening to experienced shooters advice like yours, thanks for your advice. There's so much marketing bull***t out there these days by the gun manufacturers to try and make you buy the latest trend in tech gizmo novelty features. Like you say, look at the target, not the gun and if the gun is mounted consistently and fitted to you correctly, I believe it will smash most of the clays all day long - both eyes open, regardless of master eye vs. right or left handed shooter 👍👍
I have a high rib installed on my 410 O/U. If you look at the height measured at the end of the barrel on a 12 gauge, from the bottom barrel to the top of the rib it will normally be at least 1/2" or more taller than a 410, or 1/4 to 3/8" taller than a 20 gauge. Think about that for a second,, similar firearms, you have to "scrunched" down to get the same sight picture on the 20 and 410, to match that of the 12. High ribs make lots of sense, depending on the firearm and clay game you are playing.
No arguments from me... what you say makes sense and it obviously works for you. Sorry for the late reply. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!
How's your score percentage in your last 200 targets roger doing any good with the new gun, I had the pitch changed on my gun in September at the commonwealth carnival in Griffith nsw made a world of difference to my scores,shot 128/150 in the point score earlier in that morning, had the pitch changed after some advice Then went out to the 50 db,shot 49/50,just made it to A grade last weekend,
Beau...congratulations on making it to A Grade I am just on the cusp of making it to B grade ...but one poor round and your percentage is shot...glad to hear that pitch has made a difference...it is something that is often overlooked...heartiest congratulations on making it to A Grade...Good on you!
Beau...how's your shooting going...I'm still in C grade ...but shooting well and winning quite a few events......I need to get into b grade or people will start to think I'm staying in c grade on purpose...you only need one bad round and there goes your 90%...stay well and happy shooting
how do you correct gun canting i see alot of young kids with that problem can you adjust the butt plate
Eric...you could correct gun canting by moving the butt plate left or right if you have an adjustable butt plate otherwise you've got to be aware of it when the gun is mounted...the gun can also be canted when you swing to the target and the shooter may not be aware of it.
fixed chokes on a modern Beretta?
It's OK if you're only going to shoot trap...if you are also wanting to shoot skeet...that's a different story...I really wanted removable chokes but they didn't have one in stock...the only upside is you don't have to clean them...stay well and happy new year
raised rib, stepped rib, two different styles of rib, raised its lifted up off barrel and runs closer to parallel with bore, they are not ment to shoot high. stepped rib, raised at back falls toward muzzle they are ment to shoot high. remember many who shoot flat rib guns shoot them with a high comb so their looking over the rib or down at the bead so that the gun shoots high. ones no more natural then the other its all in what you prefer
Great video sir. 😊👍🏼
Thank you...glad it was useful!
High rib is great to see your target without blocking it with the bead. 60/40 or 70/30 is great for rising targets. Take a look a trap guns...
You dont see as many high rib guns as you once used to Thanks for watching. Stay well...Happy Shooting !!!
You can't say all high rib guns don't move smoothly, least of all a statement by someone who states he doesn't own a high-rib gun.
This guy is as cool as a cucumber..
Anthony...do you mean as in green and slimy...just kidding...thank you!
Roger Pace... your welcome Roger
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Klas...how are you...what is "A"...stay well!