How Gold League Guilds Counter Amira | Hero Wars Dominion Era
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I faced an Amira line in guild war and tested against it like crazy. The line is
Khorus // Rufus (Oliver) / Amira (Axel) / Nebula (Cain) / Heidi (Albus) / Aidan (Khorus)
I found 3 lines with decent win rates against that:
1. Axel // Corvus (Albus) / Morrigan (Axel) / Isaac (Oliver) / Nebula (Cain) / Aidan (Khorus) - 90% win rate
2. Axel // Corvus (Albus) / Rufus (Biscuit) / Nebula (Cain) / Isaac (Oliver) / Celeste (Axel) - 95% win rate - This team tries to absorb Amira's damage with the combination of Rufus and Isaac
3. Axel // Corvus (Oliver) / Qing Mao (Cain) / Keira (Vex) / Morrigan (Axel) / Aidan (Khorus) - 100 win rate - This team uses a combination of an anti-Heidi and an anti Amira-team
The classic anti-Heidi combo is Corvus-Aidan which makes Heidi die to the Altar of Souls skill if there is no Dorian in the enemy team. The classic anti-Amira-team line-up by Zeus (Olympus) is
Khorus // Qing Mao (Cain) / Keira (Vex) / Sebastian (Fenris) / Lara Croft (Mara) / Iris (Albus) - this team is based on quick attacks (as you mentioned - take out Amira before she manages to land a big hit) and works against the lines with Martha and Polaris in 5th position.
So my team 3 takes out Heidi with Corvus + Aidan and Qing Mao creates the pushback that allows the team to get to Amira which is very important as Rufus is very healthy because of the enemy Aidan. Morrigan provides extra armour penetration which allows all heroes to deal more damage. I hope this is interesting and helps a few people to combat Amira.
dante is op, i've taken out whole teams just for dante to ult
Oh my God!
In Clash of Wars Amira teams actually aid us because a lot of the bottom members of our guild can only make 2 teams (we are a top 50). And somehow 3 or 4 of them leveled Keira as their main damage dealer and Keira does well against Amira lines.
Also you did not show the Dorian version, in your Clash of Wars Battle there seems to be a few.
thx Charlie
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Against rufus amira nebula heidi polaris I'm very succesful with nebula heidi jorgen polaris jet,polaris and jorgen will slow down the opponent so much that heidi nebula can do their thing.
original osh setup is good against amira tank
I dont like corvus against most amira teams, I found that julius can help the team survive better. Otherwise I tend to omit a tank if I see amira/rufus combo as I want heroes that can hit faster and hit hard with physical damage to get rufus and his shield out of the game - Dante is great for this. I may even use nebula tank against amira/rufus lines.
All great ideas!
my man corvus ;) 💪
Can somebody explain to me how Heidi works? Whenever I use it VS Osh Meta team, despite the damage being pure, I don't see Heidi doing any damage to the Osh team
But here, in this video, Heidi alone annihilates entire teams with a couple of ults
What stops Heidi from doing damage to the Osh team? I can see that Heidi does send toxic mushrooms, they just don't do any damage. I tried boosting Heidi with Nebula and Fafnir, still nothing (all in the training mode of course)
oh Alexsandr-san, I'm thinking of leveling Heidi in the future since I'd like to have a Pure dmg dealer on my team.
7:59 Based on what I've found out from other Hero Wars vids and this one by Charlie-sensei, Heidi needs his Spy Camo up (i.e. lotsa dodge points) for more energy gain and more chances to ult.
Is your Heidi able to keep camouflaged?
Also, I'm not sure how Fafnir can boost Heidi, Fafnir being a shielderer (if that makes sense?), not a Magic-Attack booster? Fafnir's weapon artifact boost Armor, right?
Amira's weapon artifact is Magic Attack, so she'll definitely boost Heidi's magic-stat-based skills.
I've also heard that Heidi's magic skins need to be boosted/maxxed for more dmg for Heidi's skills.
Do you have both your Heidi magic skins maxxed?
How about Heidi's glyphs? How are they?
'hope this helps!
@@AngelTail Hi. I was actually testing everything on maxed out teams in combat training. Fafnir has armor penetration skill, violet skill (my thinking was: Well, Heidi is doing the ults but something is preventing that damage from realizing, maybe the Osh team's armor? I should boost armor penetration). I saw his violet skill doing major damage in the Tower. He once helped one of the heroes to kill my entire team with 1 ult (don't remember who it was but that hero was boosted by Fafnir I think).
On his own, Fafnir is completely harmless. In fact, I use him all the time to test synergy of my heroes (preparing for the Osh fights) to see how much damage they would do
What I do is I create a battle: Max Defense vs Current Attack, my team (my strongest team is only 200K). And I just put Fafnir as the only opponent (but he is maxed out and has a ton of health compared to my heroes) to see how quickly they will defeat him and how much damage they would do as a team. He is one of a few heroes (if not the only one) who doesn't attack or do any damage on his own (Thea, Marta, and other healers and support heroes retaliate and do magic damage)
I'm going to try to use Cain as a patronage pet for Heidi and see if that helps him maintain his camo. I have been using Biscuit all this time (Biscuit boosts the damage Heidi does)
@@Alexsandr-l8k oooh thanks for explaining!
Maybe Combat Tests with your Current Team vs. Max Defense isn't going to reflect the realities of the situation in battle? Because of big differences in stats and such...
In my experience (though only playing seriously for 7 months on a 3-year-account), Adventures seem to be a more practical way of testing stuff?
Having Cain as your patronage pet to maintain Spy Camo and Dodge = nice idea!
How about this other idea? Albus Violet as pet for more Pure Dmg?
Biscuit does add stats, but the Violet effect is only for decreasing enemy healing.
Albus Violet pet patronage can add more Pure Dmg to Heidi attacks.
I guess another way to keep Spy Camo up is... your Weapon Artifact level? Having a 5-star, 80+ Heidi weapon artifact can solve dodge issues and keep Heidi's Camo up?
So:
1) Albus pet violet on Heidi for more pure dmg
2) at least 4-5* 80+ Heidi weapon artifact for increased dodge chances
How about your glyphs on Heidi?
'hope this helps! Thanks for replying!
@@Alexsandr-l8k Oh, and Heidi's Pure damage isn't affected by armor not magic defense.
Armor lessens the impact of Physical Damage.
Magic Defense decreases the impact of Magic Attack.
Pure Damage bypasses both Armor and Magic Defense.
Pure damage isn't enhanced by either Magic Penetration nor Amor Pen... in Heidi's case, increasing Magic Attack via glyphs, skins and ascension as well as a magic attack Weapon Artifact buff from Amira, Iris, etc. increases Heidi's Pure Dmg potential.
So I'm thinking it's either: (a) Heidi's Spy Camo is being interrupted or (b) Heidi's magic attack isn''t enough to increase their Pure damage. At least in actual battles, not in Combat Training?
'hope this helps, and sorry for not replying soonest, and for the loooong posts! ^^
Is this a video for mid level players? I can't imagine anyone near end game even takes Amira into consideration when attacking, I just treat her like any other mage, I barely notice if she is on a maxed team. Maybe at mid to slightly high levels she's dangerous?
oooh interesting, Michaelcurnow-san!
How do you counter Amira, btw? With a magic-damage mitigator (e.g. Maya, Faceless, Thea, ?), I guess, since that's a classic way of dealing with mages in Hero Wars, right?
In my case, I had to level up my Thea and her weapon artifact since I'm using Dante-Nebula-Sebastian-Lara Croft to counter Rufus-Amira lines in Adventure 12. I wonder if you've ever felt the threat of Rufus-Amira lines in Adventures, btw...
How about you?
@@AngelTail Generally I would probably just use the Traditional OSH team swapping Martha for a tank. Maybe Lara in place of Jhu. But like I said I hardly notice Amira is on a team, I don't think I ever try to counter her specifically. I'm more concerned with support hero's. To me Amira is just another damage dealer.
@@AngelTail Oops, sorry I didn't see you were talking about adventure 12, that would be a lot different then PvP, you have the odd ball buffs in Adventures, and if you're doing 12 you aren't maxed out.
For Rufus/Amira and no Physical resist buff I'd probably use an OSH hybrid Cleaver/Jhu/Nebula/Seb/Isaac a different tank should also work.
If it's a physical resist team ODH/Morigan/Aurora a different tank should also work.
It's hard to give advice for adventures without knowing what heros you have, their stats, and what buffs the enemy has.
@@michaelcurnow3524 oooh no worries, Michael-san! I wasn't asking for advice; I was actually trying to give my own experience in handling Amira in Adventures that are, in my 6-7 months of playing, as dangerous?
I was using Adventures as a way to reply to your question here: "Is this a video for mid level players?"
I'm sorry if it's confusing!
@@michaelcurnow3524 gochu gochu!
It's interesting you don't even put a Magic Defense-up hero to counter Amira!
I guess this video is for mid-level players then, since Amira for me still feels like a threat... but with my Thea with 5* weapon artifact (85+ level), I feel more secure even when her ultimate hits.
Thanks again for sharing your experience!
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