An informative and honest review. This kind of first hand information gives us more to go on when deciding on a particular tool. Thanks Felix, looking forward to next week.
Most of the time , I "free hand" sharpen , but still have the "old" Lansky sharpener and use a sine block to set the angle. Thanks for your comparison video Mr. Immler . I admire the protractor application on your cell phone. All the best from an old machinist.
@@FelixImmler Hey Felix, if you want some VERY strong free magnets to secure the blades better. Get them out of broken computer hard drives, laptop and desktop. If you haven't got any a computer shop would probably give you some. The desktop size ones would fit in that space very well and improve the grip by about 50% 👍 Thank you for your excellent videos 🍺 My favourite SAK is my slide lock Hercules 😆 I've got two strips of luminous tape on it, so it's not lost while camping.
I have a box of knife sharpening... Things, that I have collected over the span of my 61 years on the big blue marble. It measures about 1.5 by 1 by .5 feet, and it contains just about everything you can imagine. From lots of stones of varying grits to fixturing devices like you are reviewing here. Still and all, anytime I need to sharpen something, I invariably go to my soft Arkansas stone, followed by a hard Arkansas stone, followed by a leather strop. A set that I bought in the late 1970's when I was in high school. The only things that have changed in over 50 years are; A. I'm more inclined to use water over oil and B. I have discovered that adding buffing compound to the leather strop makes a HUGE difference. I hone by hand because knives and axes don't require exact angles to function the way I need them to, the way cutting tools used in machines do.
Well done video Felix! I have been using the KME system for several years. I also have their axe/hatchet convexing attachment and the Japanese water stone set. I believe my business should go to the originator of the design, not the company that copies and cheapens the design. All of the shortfalls you pointed out with that 2nd Chinese sharpener do not exist on the KME. I can get an accurate angle measurement because the KME jaws are free floating and the blade is clamped in the middle of the jaws. That cheap Chinese unit you have looks like the KME but doesn't actually function like the KME. I'm sure it is the same for the TSPROF and the EdgePro. The copies are never as good as the original. You proved that when you compared your SAK to the copies. My problem with the Chinese versions is that not only are they cheaply and often carelessly made, the Chinese manufacturing firms only seem to be able to copy things. They don't seem to be able to innovate anything. I will stick with the originals. KME also warrants their sharpener for life, and they honor that warranty! Thanks Felix!
I agree, have the KME with convexing too (and I just ordered the pen knife clamp for swiss army), it is expensive but I agree the $ should go to original designers if possible. The big downside to KME aside from price though is avaiablilty, I had to have mine imported for eg.
I learned how to do hand sharpening and spent my money on diamond plates and a honing strop. They work great and quickly for knives, chisels, and plane blades. Diamond sharpening plates work very well on my Victorinox stainless steel blades, too. For knives, however, I think your Kadet system works very well for establishing a consistent angle and sharpening the blade prior to stropping, especially with the diamond plates. This is a good tool review. Thanks for the video.
I don’t like to buy Chinese products (anymore) because of a lot of reasons. I like to buy good quality European products or local products. Feels much more honest. Thank you for this nice review
The Ruixin 5, your second version, comes from the factory with a fault in the clamping part. The half round piece in the clamp is too big and don't comes flat. If you file the half round part in the clamp so the flat side rests in the groove, the angle is really perfect. I did this with my Ruixin and if I turn the knife the angle of the stones is within 1/10 of a degree. That makes this unit really perfect, even for small knives.
For sharpening my knives, including my Victorinox Officier knife, I use only sand papers from 400 to 1500 graduation and finished on the leather strap with and without polish paste. All of them are razoz sharp.
I really enjoy your channel. Your honest first hand comparisons are the best. Out in the woods a simple Arkansas stone and hand held knife do the job for me. There is sharp enough and then there is precision which usually is obtained at greater expense under controlled conditions.
I have been using the smith's 10$ pocket sharpener for a year now and it has been working great I had kitchen knife that couldn't cut butter and it made it razor sharp in 1-2 mins. if 10$ can keep my knives sharp for a year then I call that a great investment rather than wasting money on buying new knives.
Good one Felix. I have an old beat up Lansky system with three stones. It easily puts a razor edge on my knives after stropping. I paid $5.00 for it at a Flea Market. I'm very happy with it. I did buy a table clamp for it extra.
Magnets? Good idea, I also have a similar sharpening system like the first one, cheap. We need to add magnets to it too. Thanks for the video and idea👍👍👍
hello Felix ... With Sharpening systems like that .. there are 2 Points to look at and make a difference ... first point the Base System ... with Knife holder , angle system and "stone" Holder ... there You have to look what You can Work with and how much compatible the Stone holder is ( Size and form of the Stones .. ) and then Look at the Price and take with what You can Live ... The second Point is then more importent .. the Stones ... if the Stone holder is compatible to a lot of Stones on the market, then You can invest the spared money from the base in good Quality stones ... i Use a Ruixin Pro RX008 System with Stones from Bacher wich have also Leather straps for this system and DMT Diamond paste on the Leather .. also some Diamond Stones for havy duty Knife sharping jobs ... So in my opinion it is not really a Question of the Prise of the base .. its more a Question of the Quality of the stones wich You use with the system
Hi Felix ☺ thanks for the comparison, and your own views on these devises, the old saying of ,you get what you pay for, is as true today as it ever was. I will be interested to see this equipment in action . Stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Very helpful Felix, thanks. I guess anything out of Russia will be difficult now and will give many of us moral problems too, but this video gives plenty of tips on what to look for in a sharpening system so it’s still very useful. Thanks again, Les in UK
Danke dir mein Freund für den Vergleich! Ich verwenden momentan ausschliesslich für meine Messer Diamentpaste auf Streichriemen. Das passt super so. Glück auf aus Züri! :-)
One great point of mechanical fixed type sharpening tools is it provides the ability to copy the factory angle. They also provide removing less metal from the blade too. The down side of using them is the time it takes getting the angle setup correctly. Another problem is none I, know of can sharpen small penknives. The Russian made model you have looks to be the best one so far; but, is even more complicated to setup as well. However; if you are a knife collector and have rare and expensive knives and have good mechanical skills this might worth buying. Swiss Army knives and Swiza Swiss knives are so easy to sharpen spending that much for a sharpening tool is a little extreme. 🎁🎄😊
I have a KME sharpening setup with the 'pen knife jaws' accessory, and it's allowed me to sharpen a Victorinox Classic SD and similar sized blades with a guided system. Not quite as sturdy or sophisticated as the TSProf, but seems to get the job done.
Hoi Felix, Nach diesem Video bin ich auch auf den Kadet von TSPROF umgestiegen. Ich habe es keine Sekunde bereut, im Gegenteil. Für die relativ kleinen Victorinox-Klingen empfiehlt sich der zusätzliche Kauf einer zentral zu montierenden Einzelklemme. Dann ist es perfekt. 😉 Freue mich immer wieder auf neue Filmchen von dir. Viele Grüße, Gregor
Ja genau, diese Klemme brauche ich noch! Wieviel Grad pro Seite kannst Du im Minimal mit der gesagten Einzelklemme die Klinge eines 91mm Taschenmesser zaubern? Geht 15° pro Seite? LG
Hallo Felix, ein interessanter Vergleich! Ich selbst benutze für stationäres Schärfen einen Diamantschleifstein von DMT und natürlich einen Streichriemen. LG Micha
in the comunist Romania, Made in China was the sign of quality. now it is a common perception that is garbage. yet many products are from China and from very good materials and very good execution. i think they produce both garbage for masses and quality for people who care about what they use. edit: on topic, i invested too much in stones and in leveling up skills to buy a sharpening system. and its not portable. thank you for the honest review!
I still like the old oil stones mine are like 60 years old, yes they're slow and take so much effort but that can be a good point if you're new to sharpening as it's much harder to ruin your grind then just follow up with a strop after and yes your blade will be scary sharp and shiny
Hi Felix,schönes Video.Es gibt auch noch den Ruixin Pro Knife Sharpener,mit Klemme die man auch umdrehen kann.kostet ca 45 Euro. Mit dem hat man man auch Super Ergebnisse.Mach weiter so und frohe Weihnachten!!!
Not sure I'd spend that much money to sharpen an occasional knife but great review 👍 I've been using your rag trick on an axe today except rag falling away so used increasingly sizes of wood insted 🙏
Can you say something about Work Sharp Precision Adjust knife sharpening system? It seems like another budget friendly solution for regular sharpening needs...
Hallo felix ich ich schärfe meine messer mit einem fiskars schärfer ich weiß nur nicht ob ich meinen huntsman damit schärfen kann kannst du mir etwas dazu sagen lg
Felix i love your channel a fantastic video thanks for sharing this video with us i think the little victorinox dual knife sharpener works perfect thanks Felix 👍
Moin Felix! Danke für die Vorstellung. Man merkt sofort, dass du Ahnung von dem hast worüber du sprichst. Ich bin gespannt auf das nächste Video. Nach dem Schärfen konntest Tudor dich ja mal wieder mit der Klinge rasieren… 😉 LG Claus
The question I keep going back to is, "how sharp does a knife have to be to accomplish with ease cutting tasks in camp and when food preparation and, standard bushcraft camp tasks? I have several Japanese water stones from course (150 grit) to ultra-fine (6000 grit). I also have a sharpening tool that sharpens by pulling the knive thru the device. Also, I have a 3-grit (course, medium, and fine) on a sharpening steel made by Buck knives. All three sharpening systems (Japanese stones, Buck 3-grit steel, and the easy-pull device) work fine and produce sharp knife edges. Of course, the Japanese water stones get the sharpest knife edges, but it is a lot of work and its messy. My go-to system is the Buck 3-grit sharpening steel because it is easy to use and gives me the hands-on 'feel' that I am in control. I have avoided puchasing a sharpening device that you are using in this video because the only advantage is being able to accurately control the edge angle. precisely and these mechanical systems are expensive. So, the trade offs are ease of use, cost, time, messiness, and precise/less precise angle control. Under normal conditions, I am okay with the Buck 3-grit steel, but if I want super-sharp knives, I use the water stones. But, by and large, the ease of use of the 3-grit Buck steel is fine with me and I can accomplish most tasks easily. So, my final question is, "why do I need super-sharp knives?" Is perfect the enemy of good enough?
It could be fun to have a collaboration with the Dutch Bushcraft knives. You could learn them some tricks and they could… hard tried some of our best Swiss knives!
@@FelixImmler and this could make an even better video. The old monkey could teach them, and young crazy could give you some of this craziness (no offense 😅😉)
Great video Felix! Thank you very much. I've been wondering myself, if the TSProf sharpener is worth the money. I use a Lansky system, and it gets my knives very sharp there are a few things I don't like about it, but as you know, if you really,use your knife, it will get dull fast, so speed and ease of use are very important.
Nice review, Felix. For me, I like the "feeling" of using a good whetstone. I'm sure my knives are not as sharp as they would be if I used a mechanical sharpener but I enjoy it Looking forward to next week.
Making yourself happy is the ultimate goal. If you can sharpen your blades to meet your needs then anything more is just excess. Better is the enemy of good.
Curious if you have thought about the KME or Wicked Edge sharpeners? I use the KME, (that replaced my Edge Pro), and find great results. That satisfies my obsessive desire for sharp knives.
Schönes vid...den neuen kenn ich noch nicht ... Sehr teuer im vergleich aber sicher jeden cent wert. Ich muste meinen china clone ja auch erst umbauen bis ich zufrieden war... Wird mal Zeit für einen neuen... Gruss HD
Thanks for the review. There is a sharpening system for every budget it seems. You certainly get what you pay for to some degree but maybe something less than the best is still enough?
@@FelixImmler Thank you. Was mainly asking if the other stones clamp in for use. I would take the less rated models to the summer cabin or keep in the truck for times of need. No point in keeping them at home in the garage when you can use them elsewhere instead of collecting dust. Thank you so much!
Thank you Felix. I would be interested in seeing you do some side by side tests "Project Farm" style with the full collection of sharpening tools you have - I know the expensive one will probably come out best but it would be nice to see how sharp you can get a knife compared to by hand in the field with a random smooth rock and a leather boot as a strop.
I use the Lansky system and my knives are razor sharp… my brother found out just how sharp my SAK was last week while we were in Aspen. His boy needed a hole cut into an old belt so he could wear it and I was going to cut it for him. My brother being the "man" thought he needed to do it so I wouldn’t stab his son. What happens? He slices right through the leather belt AND his finger like butter … he sliced his finger to the bone… I felt bad for him but at the same time had to chuckle because he thought I would have a dull knife. I took the knife back. I had to cut another hole since the hole he cut wasn’t far enough back for Tracetin to use. I didn’t cut myself … lol
Hej Felix, Danke für Dein Video. Ich hab relativ viel zu schleifen und benutze (nur noch selten) ein Lansky Controlled Angle System für diverse Messer. Das entspricht ja in etwa den getesteten Kandidaten. Damit war immer eine recht gute Gebrauchsschärfe herzustellen. Allerdings ist im Betrieb Zeit = Geld und das "Gefummel" mit Systemen dieser Art einfach zu teuer. Meine Schleifarbeiten erledige ich jetzt einmal im Monat auf einer Tormek T8. LG Stefan
Interesting, thx. I will continue with the sharpeners I have so, work sharp, fallkniven dc4, ... aaannnd ... Victorinox too :) (so more 'field sharpeners', just want a knife able to cut and slice easily and fast ^^)
Hello Felix, Great comparison as always, have you considered testing Worksharp Precision Adjust regular/ elite version? My personal feeling is that it's doing a great job for 50/120$ and it's a good product versus luxury sharpeners like KDE or those in the hundred $ range.
i have the regular version here and it is definitively a really big bang for the buck. i have used this device really a lot and it does his job as expected also after o lot of time in use
@Felix Immler thank you.. I'm a big fan of your videos, just getting into knives in general especially sharpening. I'm a huge fan of macgyver and I have a big collection of swiss army knives.. I thank you for your advice.. John 👍🏻
for the daily drive to the working place or supermarket a vw polo is more than enough or a citröen or fiat . . . . but many people buy a mercedes or porsche . . . . - - - - tell me why 😊😊😊
Schönes Video aber ich verstehe tsprof hier nicht, warum sie dir nicht das blitz pro geschickt haben. Das ist ihr kompaktestes System mit den feinsten Klemmen, kann die Vics deutlich besser spannen und geht bei Küchenmessern trotzdem bis 28cm 🤷🏻♂️
Hi Leute🙋🏻♂️. Der Reini Rossmann hat ein Video über Survival Messer rausgebracht. Was hat das mit Felix zu tun🤔? Lasst Euch überraschen😊. PS: Ich schärfe mit dem Wicked Edge System. Sauteuer, aber nun hab ich mich dafür entschieden, und es passt soweit. Würde ich es nochmals kaufen, ich bin mir nicht sicher🤷🏻♂️.
To me, the clamp that holds the blade is supreme importance. Some blades are flat ground, some are hollow and some are saber ground and I’m sure there are others. The ability of the clamp that holds the blade to conform to various blade shapes and grinds is very difficult to find and that is what affects the actual angle of the very apex. If the clamp allows any slip in how it holds the blade, it will throw off the angle at the apex to a massive degree. I would have to really look at the clamp of the Russian sharpener to see if it can accommodate the types of clamping power it has. Granted, a knife can be sharp if one side is 20 degrees and the other is 15 degrees, as long as the type angles intersect at the apex. Like how a chisel is sharp, for example.
Felix....du zeigst und was gutes, aber nicht den link dazu. Es ist halt mal eine Produktvorstellung und auch wenn du kein Verkäufer bist, wäre ein link oder ein Hinweis dazu, dann schon hilfreich. Ansonsten, wie immer, super gut
for most peoples personal use the very expensive ones are not worth it. get a descent one and learn to use it well you will be fine and have more money for more useful gear or food.
Sehr gutes und sehr sympatisches Review👍 Ich habe mir vor kurzem das TSPROF Blitz 360 Complete gekauft und bin noch nicht ganz dahinter gekommen warum oder wann ich das mitgelieferte digitale Messgerät nutzen soll wenn am Schleifgerät selber auch verschiedene Einstell Möglichkeiten für die verschiedenen Messerarten / Winkel vorhanden sind ! Viele Grüße Gennaro
Wenn Du wirklich wissen möchtest mit welchen Winkel Du deine Messer schärfst, dann musst Du das Messen. Aber für den normalen gebrauch reichen auch die Symbole am Gerät...da hast Du schon Recht! LG
Hallo Felix. Super Video! Ich finde deine Reviews einfach super! Ich mag deine direkte und ehrliche Art - in keiner sekunde hat man jemals das gefühl das irgend ein Produktplacement oder Sponsoring dahinterstecken könnte - sehr aufrichtig und sympatisch. Dadurch entsteht Vertrauen! Ja klar, wenns um Victorinox geht, da könnte man meinen…aber hey sorry, jeder der in der Schweiz aufgewachsen ist, kann die Liebe und die Faszination (und somit auch deine Begeisterung und Leidenschaft) zum Sackhegäl einfach nachvollziehen🤩 Ich bin auf der Suche nach einem Schleifsystem für meine Victorinox, Outdoor- und einigen Küchenmesser und da bin ich wieder beim Meister gelandet, wie könnte es auch anders sein😉 mir ist das Lansky Set im Hintergrund aufgefallen…wie zufrieden warst du damit/was hälst du davon? Danke auch an alle anderen für den Tipp mit dem Worksharp Precision Adjust…macht einen guten Eindruck und liegt ebenfalls in „meiner Kosten/Nutzen“ Kategorie. Weiter so und Vielen Dank im Voraus. Beste Grüsse, Fabio.
A load of nonsense and complete waste of money. Sharpening is an easy skill to master, if you don’t become hyper-obsessive and overthink it - hallmarks of our age, I’m afraid.
@@FelixImmler I rudely overstated my opinion (as usual) - if people like these things, why not? But my father taught me to sharpen a knife when I was 8 years old - the peak of my intelligence - and it’s just not that hard. Cheers.
Common u are makeing so interresting vids but i still cant understand what are u saying becouse u are saying so many ssssss essis sink senks wis but why ? 😭
Beside the price there is another significant downside of that sharpener - it comes from Russia - the country which tries to destroy Europe, and finally the money you pay will be spend for terrorism and destruction. And that is pity because the sharpener looks good.
@@paulreeves8251, Russian troops killed more than 15'000 people at the east of Ukraine during the last 8 years and keep doing that. Do you find that funny?
@@szhyla Perhaps if the 'West' hadn't tried to drive a wedge between Ukraine and Russia that might never have happened. We could go a long way with the blame game. Still not sure whether this is in any way relevant to the subject at hand - knife sharpeners.
@@paulreeves8251 there is no blame games or wedges of the "West". There is a war - Russian aggression against Ukraine. Just to remind it is Russia who occupies territories of Ukraine (Crimea and parts of Donetsk and Lugansk districts at the east) and not vice versa. However, here in Ukraine, nobody blames Russia in what they did, because we understand that aggression against neighbors is a nature of Russia. They will never stop. They will try to conquer everything around as long as they have chance and money for that. An this fact comes us to the point that any goods, wither it is natural gas or knife sharpener, bought in Russia supports Russian aggression no matter against whoever they can. Today it is Ukraine, tomorrow it will be Poland, Hungary, Slovak or Austria - depends on how long they will have money.
An informative and honest review. This kind of first hand information gives us more to go on when deciding on a particular tool. Thanks Felix, looking forward to next week.
Thanks a lot for taking the time and watching my video!!
Most of the time , I "free hand" sharpen , but still have the "old" Lansky sharpener and use a sine block to set the angle. Thanks for your comparison video Mr. Immler . I admire the protractor application on your cell phone.
All the best from an old machinist.
Thanks a lot for your kind comment!
@@FelixImmler Hey Felix, if you want some VERY strong free magnets to secure the blades better. Get them out of broken computer hard drives, laptop and desktop.
If you haven't got any a computer shop would probably give you some.
The desktop size ones would fit in that space very well and improve the grip by about 50% 👍
Thank you for your excellent videos 🍺 My favourite SAK is my slide lock Hercules 😆
I've got two strips of luminous tape on it, so it's not lost while camping.
Impressive..but the process for getting the angle seems a little involved. Maybe I'm just spoiled with the Percision adjust sharpener...
I have a box of knife sharpening... Things, that I have collected over the span of my 61 years on the big blue marble. It measures about 1.5 by 1 by .5 feet, and it contains just about everything you can imagine. From lots of stones of varying grits to fixturing devices like you are reviewing here. Still and all, anytime I need to sharpen something, I invariably go to my soft Arkansas stone, followed by a hard Arkansas stone, followed by a leather strop. A set that I bought in the late 1970's when I was in high school. The only things that have changed in over 50 years are; A. I'm more inclined to use water over oil and B. I have discovered that adding buffing compound to the leather strop makes a HUGE difference. I hone by hand because knives and axes don't require exact angles to function the way I need them to, the way cutting tools used in machines do.
Well done video Felix! I have been using the KME system for several years. I also have their axe/hatchet convexing attachment and the Japanese water stone set. I believe my business should go to the originator of the design, not the company that copies and cheapens the design. All of the shortfalls you pointed out with that 2nd Chinese sharpener do not exist on the KME. I can get an accurate angle measurement because the KME jaws are free floating and the blade is clamped in the middle of the jaws. That cheap Chinese unit you have looks like the KME but doesn't actually function like the KME. I'm sure it is the same for the TSPROF and the EdgePro. The copies are never as good as the original. You proved that when you compared your SAK to the copies. My problem with the Chinese versions is that not only are they cheaply and often carelessly made, the Chinese manufacturing firms only seem to be able to copy things. They don't seem to be able to innovate anything. I will stick with the originals. KME also warrants their sharpener for life, and they honor that warranty! Thanks Felix!
I like what you said! Thanks for your opinion
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I agree, have the KME with convexing too (and I just ordered the pen knife clamp for swiss army), it is expensive but I agree the $ should go to original designers if possible. The big downside to KME aside from price though is avaiablilty, I had to have mine imported for eg.
I learned how to do hand sharpening and spent my money on diamond plates and a honing strop. They work great and quickly for knives, chisels, and plane blades. Diamond sharpening plates work very well on my Victorinox stainless steel blades, too.
For knives, however, I think your Kadet system works very well for establishing a consistent angle and sharpening the blade prior to stropping, especially with the diamond plates.
This is a good tool review. Thanks for the video.
Yes... leather strops and diamond plates works super well.....
I don’t like to buy Chinese products (anymore) because of a lot of reasons. I like to buy good quality European products or local products. Feels much more honest. Thank you for this nice review
Hello Frank. Thanks for your honset feeback! You are right!
The Ruixin 5, your second version, comes from the factory with a fault in the clamping part. The half round piece in the clamp is too big and don't comes flat.
If you file the half round part in the clamp so the flat side rests in the groove, the angle is really perfect.
I did this with my Ruixin and if I turn the knife the angle of the stones is within 1/10 of a degree.
That makes this unit really perfect, even for small knives.
Very helpful.
I will download that protractor app today!
Thank You.
For sharpening my knives, including my Victorinox Officier knife, I use only sand papers from 400 to 1500 graduation and finished on the leather strap with and without polish paste. All of them are razoz sharp.
I really enjoy your channel. Your honest first hand comparisons are the best. Out in the woods a simple Arkansas stone and hand held knife do the job for me. There is sharp enough and then there is precision which usually is obtained at greater expense under controlled conditions.
Yes... i agree!
I have been using the smith's 10$ pocket sharpener for a year now and it has been working great I had kitchen knife that couldn't cut butter and it made it razor sharp in 1-2 mins. if 10$ can keep my knives sharp for a year then I call that a great investment rather than wasting money on buying new knives.
I've been thinking of getting such a sharpening jig for some time now. This video was very informative. 👍
hello Ronald. Thanks a lot for this feedback!
Very good review, my friend! Even though it's a bit pricey, I really do like the russian-made sharpener. It is as they say, you get what you pay for.
Good one Felix. I have an old beat up Lansky system with three stones. It easily puts a razor edge on my knives after stropping. I paid $5.00 for it at a Flea Market. I'm very happy with it. I did buy a table clamp for it extra.
Good comparison Felix, very well executed, congratulations! I trust and believe in your opinion, thanks for the video!
Hello Jose. Thanks a lot!
Magnets? Good idea, I also have a similar sharpening system like the first one, cheap. We need to add magnets to it too. Thanks for the video and idea👍👍👍
Thanks a lot for your comment!
Worksharp made a similar sharpener that's $40 that does an amazing job everytime
Yes... the Precisison Adjust... Thanks for your hint!
Always great content on your channel, Mr Immler. Thank you!
I appreciate your comment! Thanks a lot..
hello Felix ... With Sharpening systems like that .. there are 2 Points to look at and make a difference ... first point the Base System ... with Knife holder , angle system and "stone" Holder ... there You have to look what You can Work with and how much compatible the Stone holder is ( Size and form of the Stones .. ) and then Look at the Price and take with what You can Live ... The second Point is then more importent .. the Stones ... if the Stone holder is compatible to a lot of Stones on the market, then You can invest the spared money from the base in good Quality stones ... i Use a Ruixin Pro RX008 System with Stones from Bacher wich have also Leather straps for this system and DMT Diamond paste on the Leather .. also some Diamond Stones for havy duty Knife sharping jobs ... So in my opinion it is not really a Question of the Prise of the base .. its more a Question of the Quality of the stones wich You use with the system
I agree 100% !
Hi Felix ☺ thanks for the comparison, and your own views on these devises, the old saying of ,you get what you pay for, is as true today as it ever was. I will be interested to see this equipment in action . Stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Long ago, as an engraver apprentice in Germany, I learned how to sharpen all of my (hand-made) tools with two stones
Yes... that's the best way!!
Great video thanks Felix, all the best from London England 👍😎🏴
Very helpful Felix, thanks. I guess anything out of Russia will be difficult now and will give many of us moral problems too, but this video gives plenty of tips on what to look for in a sharpening system so it’s still very useful. Thanks again, Les in UK
Danke dir mein Freund für den Vergleich! Ich verwenden momentan ausschliesslich für meine Messer Diamentpaste auf Streichriemen. Das passt super so. Glück auf aus Züri! :-)
Ja, mit einem vernünftigen Streichreimen kommst Du seeehr weit!
Sempre bravo Felix!
One great point of mechanical fixed type sharpening tools is it provides the ability to copy the factory angle. They also provide removing less metal from the blade too. The down side of using them is the time it takes getting the angle setup correctly. Another problem is none I, know of can sharpen small penknives. The Russian made model you have looks to be the best one so far; but, is even more complicated to setup as well. However; if you are a knife collector and have rare and expensive knives and have good mechanical skills this might worth buying. Swiss Army knives and Swiza Swiss knives are so easy to sharpen spending that much for a sharpening tool is a little extreme. 🎁🎄😊
I am 100% your opinion!
I have a KME sharpening setup with the 'pen knife jaws' accessory, and it's allowed me to sharpen a Victorinox Classic SD and similar sized blades with a guided system. Not quite as sturdy or sophisticated as the TSProf, but seems to get the job done.
Nice Felix. I was about to say you should do a video of how you sharpen a Victorinox knife and getting it super sharp. Great video bud.
Hoi Felix,
Nach diesem Video bin ich auch auf den Kadet von TSPROF umgestiegen. Ich habe es keine Sekunde bereut, im Gegenteil. Für die relativ kleinen Victorinox-Klingen empfiehlt sich der zusätzliche Kauf einer zentral zu montierenden Einzelklemme. Dann ist es perfekt. 😉
Freue mich immer wieder auf neue Filmchen von dir. Viele Grüße, Gregor
Ja genau, diese Klemme brauche ich noch! Wieviel Grad pro Seite kannst Du im Minimal mit der gesagten Einzelklemme die Klinge eines 91mm Taschenmesser zaubern? Geht 15° pro Seite? LG
Felix once again Mate Brilliant video full of information once again to help us out Thank you for your help and sharing with us all
Hallo Felix, ein interessanter Vergleich! Ich selbst benutze für stationäres Schärfen einen Diamantschleifstein von DMT und natürlich einen Streichriemen. LG Micha
Ja, mit Diamantplatte und Strichriemen bus du schon toll ausgerüstet!!
Interesting. Can't wait
Thanks a lot John!
in the comunist Romania, Made in China was the sign of quality. now it is a common perception that is garbage. yet many products are from China and from very good materials and very good execution. i think they produce both garbage for masses and quality for people who care about what they use.
edit: on topic, i invested too much in stones and in leveling up skills to buy a sharpening system. and its not portable. thank you for the honest review!
I still like the old oil stones mine are like 60 years old, yes they're slow and take so much effort but that can be a good point if you're new to sharpening as it's much harder to ruin your grind then just follow up with a strop after and yes your blade will be scary sharp and shiny
Hello Dave. Thanks a lot for your interesting feedback!
Hi Felix,schönes Video.Es gibt auch noch den Ruixin Pro Knife Sharpener,mit Klemme die man auch umdrehen kann.kostet ca 45 Euro.
Mit dem hat man man auch Super Ergebnisse.Mach weiter so und frohe Weihnachten!!!
Danke für den Hinweis Jörg!
Not sure I'd spend that much money to sharpen an occasional knife but great review 👍 I've been using your rag trick on an axe today except rag falling away so used increasingly sizes of wood insted 🙏
Felix , good informational video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Great video. thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you, Felix!
Very welcom!
Hi Felix, is it possible to sharpen the small blade of the Victorinox pocket knives with the Kadet?
There are special cheeks to do that: shop.tsprof.com/catalog/parts/tsprof_whole_milled_fillet_clamps_2pcs
Can you say something about Work Sharp Precision Adjust knife sharpening system? It seems like another budget friendly solution for regular sharpening needs...
Hallo felix ich ich schärfe meine messer mit einem fiskars schärfer ich weiß nur nicht ob ich meinen huntsman damit schärfen kann kannst du mir etwas dazu sagen lg
Ja ja ...das passt schon.
Felix i love your channel a fantastic video thanks for sharing this video with us i think the little victorinox dual knife sharpener works perfect thanks Felix 👍
Moin Felix!
Danke für die Vorstellung. Man merkt sofort, dass du Ahnung von dem hast worüber du sprichst.
Ich bin gespannt auf das nächste Video. Nach dem Schärfen konntest Tudor dich ja mal wieder mit der Klinge rasieren… 😉
LG Claus
The question I keep going back to is, "how sharp does a knife have to be to accomplish with ease cutting tasks in camp and when food preparation and, standard bushcraft camp tasks? I have several Japanese water stones from course (150 grit) to ultra-fine (6000 grit). I also have a sharpening tool that sharpens by pulling the knive thru the device. Also, I have a 3-grit (course, medium, and fine) on a sharpening steel made by Buck knives. All three sharpening systems (Japanese stones, Buck 3-grit steel, and the easy-pull device) work fine and produce sharp knife edges. Of course, the Japanese water stones get the sharpest knife edges, but it is a lot of work and its messy. My go-to system is the Buck 3-grit sharpening steel because it is easy to use and gives me the hands-on 'feel' that I am in control. I have avoided puchasing a sharpening device that you are using in this video because the only advantage is being able to accurately control the edge angle. precisely and these mechanical systems are expensive. So, the trade offs are ease of use, cost, time, messiness, and precise/less precise angle control. Under normal conditions, I am okay with the Buck 3-grit steel, but if I want super-sharp knives, I use the water stones. But, by and large, the ease of use of the 3-grit Buck steel is fine with me and I can accomplish most tasks easily. So, my final question is, "why do I need super-sharp knives?" Is perfect the enemy of good enough?
We have a sign that hangs in our company warehouse that simply says ""Good enough" never is". Pretty good motivational sign i think
“Good enough enough, never is”… I like that. Makes sense to me. Thanks for sharing that pithy slogan.
It could be fun to have a collaboration with the Dutch Bushcraft knives. You could learn them some tricks and they could… hard tried some of our best Swiss knives!
Haa ha haa i like them. But hey...i am an old man...they are young, wild and cheeky
@@FelixImmler and this could make an even better video. The old monkey could teach them, and young crazy could give you some of this craziness (no offense 😅😉)
Great video Felix! Thank you very much. I've been wondering myself, if the TSProf sharpener is worth the money. I use a Lansky system, and it gets my knives very sharp there are a few things I don't like about it, but as you know, if you really,use your knife, it will get dull fast, so speed and ease of use are very important.
👋👋👋hello from Detroit Michigan USA Great video Brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and keep up the good work 👏
Thank you so much for your kind words!!
Nice review, Felix. For me, I like the "feeling" of using a good whetstone. I'm sure my knives are not as sharp as they would be if I used a mechanical sharpener but I enjoy it Looking forward to next week.
Thanks for your interesting feedback!!
Making yourself happy is the ultimate goal. If you can sharpen your blades to meet your needs then anything more is just excess. Better is the enemy of good.
Curious if you have thought about the KME or Wicked Edge sharpeners? I use the KME, (that replaced my Edge Pro), and find great results. That satisfies my obsessive desire for sharp knives.
I only heard good things about the KME Sharpeners. But i have no experience with them.
Schönes vid...den neuen kenn ich noch nicht ...
Sehr teuer im vergleich aber sicher jeden cent wert.
Ich muste meinen china clone ja auch erst umbauen bis ich zufrieden war...
Wird mal Zeit für einen neuen...
Gruss
HD
bonjour de france pouvez vous dire le nom de votre application de votre smartphone pour mesurer l'angle ?
Great comparison. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great information always helpful. Thanks 😊 🙏
Hello Mike. Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the review. There is a sharpening system for every budget it seems. You certainly get what you pay for to some degree but maybe something less than the best is still enough?
Very true Jack!!
Thank you! 👍
Thank you for this useful information. Are all the types of stones you have interchangeable with each model? Love and blessings!
more or less....They habe the same lengths but a different thickness.
@@FelixImmler Thank you. Was mainly asking if the other stones clamp in for use. I would take the less rated models to the summer cabin or keep in the truck for times of need. No point in keeping them at home in the garage when you can use them elsewhere instead of collecting dust. Thank you so much!
Привет Феликс!! Горжусь этим продуктом!
Да, правильно. Это хороший продукт!
Thank you Felix. I would be interested in seeing you do some side by side tests "Project Farm" style with the full collection of sharpening tools you have - I know the expensive one will probably come out best but it would be nice to see how sharp you can get a knife compared to by hand in the field with a random smooth rock and a leather boot as a strop.
I use the Lansky system and my knives are razor sharp… my brother found out just how sharp my SAK was last week while we were in Aspen. His boy needed a hole cut into an old belt so he could wear it and I was going to cut it for him. My brother being the "man" thought he needed to do it so I wouldn’t stab his son. What happens? He slices right through the leather belt AND his finger like butter … he sliced his finger to the bone… I felt bad for him but at the same time had to chuckle because he thought I would have a dull knife. I took the knife back. I had to cut another hole since the hole he cut wasn’t far enough back for Tracetin to use. I didn’t cut myself … lol
Super Englisch! Love it!Gibts dieses Video auch in Deutsch?
Hej Felix, Danke für Dein Video. Ich hab relativ viel zu schleifen und benutze (nur noch selten) ein Lansky Controlled Angle System für diverse Messer. Das entspricht ja in etwa den getesteten Kandidaten. Damit war immer eine recht gute Gebrauchsschärfe herzustellen. Allerdings ist im Betrieb Zeit = Geld und das "Gefummel" mit Systemen dieser Art einfach zu teuer. Meine Schleifarbeiten erledige ich jetzt einmal im Monat auf einer Tormek T8. LG Stefan
Ja klar...das verstehte ich absolut!
Interesting, thx. I will continue with the sharpeners I have so, work sharp, fallkniven dc4, ... aaannnd ... Victorinox too :)
(so more 'field sharpeners', just want a knife able to cut and slice easily and fast ^^)
Yes... this is the most important thing! You are right!
Hello Felix, Great comparison as always, have you considered testing Worksharp Precision Adjust regular/ elite version?
My personal feeling is that it's doing a great job for 50/120$ and it's a good product versus luxury sharpeners like KDE or those in the hundred $ range.
yes... i can imagine that the new Worksharp can be a good and cheap solution...
i have the regular version here and it is definitively a really big bang for the buck. i have used this device really a lot and it does his job as expected also after o lot of time in use
Danke Felix. Das war gut aber ich bleib bei meinem "Victrinox Diamoond Knife Sharpener". Bleib gesund. LG. Nigel
Felix when you say 40° sharpening angle for swiss army knife blades that's 20° setting on the sharpener? As in 20° on both sides = 40°?
20° on both sides...
@Felix Immler thank you.. I'm a big fan of your videos, just getting into knives in general especially sharpening. I'm a huge fan of macgyver and I have a big collection of swiss army knives.. I thank you for your advice.. John 👍🏻
Вижу Феликса - ставлю лайк.👍
I’ve been freehand sharpening for years.
That's the best solution!
That was a quick reply at the end of the video.For those that have problems, the guides are an excellent solution. Great comparison and review 😁
Sehr interessant, ich suche schon Set langem ein neuer Schleifsystem. Danke!
Felix, how is the TSPROF holding up after this many months?
I don't know.. i didn't use it a lot...
How is the goniometer app called ?
for the daily drive to the working place or supermarket a vw polo is more than enough or a citröen or fiat . . . . but many people buy a mercedes or porsche . . . . - - - - tell me why 😊😊😊
Schönes Video aber ich verstehe tsprof hier nicht, warum sie dir nicht das blitz pro geschickt haben. Das ist ihr kompaktestes System mit den feinsten Klemmen, kann die Vics deutlich besser spannen und geht bei Küchenmessern trotzdem bis 28cm 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for your hint!
Hi Leute🙋🏻♂️. Der Reini Rossmann hat ein Video über Survival Messer rausgebracht. Was hat das mit Felix zu tun🤔? Lasst Euch überraschen😊.
PS: Ich schärfe mit dem Wicked Edge System. Sauteuer, aber nun hab ich mich dafür entschieden, und es passt soweit. Würde ich es nochmals kaufen, ich bin mir nicht sicher🤷🏻♂️.
I was gifted a system like this. I may be that nut job to spend that kind of money.
To me, the clamp that holds the blade is supreme importance. Some blades are flat ground, some are hollow and some are saber ground and I’m sure there are others. The ability of the clamp that holds the blade to conform to various blade shapes and grinds is very difficult to find and that is what affects the actual angle of the very apex. If the clamp allows any slip in how it holds the blade, it will throw off the angle at the apex to a massive degree. I would have to really look at the clamp of the Russian sharpener to see if it can accommodate the types of clamping power it has. Granted, a knife can be sharp if one side is 20 degrees and the other is 15 degrees, as long as the type angles intersect at the apex. Like how a chisel is sharp, for example.
Was ist mit dem Clone von TS Prof? (Halber Preis!!!)
Felix....du zeigst und was gutes, aber nicht den link dazu. Es ist halt mal eine Produktvorstellung und auch wenn du kein Verkäufer bist, wäre ein link oder ein Hinweis dazu, dann schon hilfreich. Ansonsten, wie immer, super gut
Schöne Übersicht der einzelnen Systeme, ich muss gestehen das ich als ehemaliger Schneidwerkzeugmechaniker alle per Hand schleife. Gruß #Andre_Doerck
Brilliant! Thanks Felix ;-)
Thank you so much!
Thanks! 👍
Welcome! greetings from switzerland!
for most peoples personal use the very expensive ones are not worth it. get a descent one and learn to use it well you will be fine and have more money for more useful gear or food.
I agree!
The high-end model is a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist.
Free hand is the best system :)
i agree... this is the cheapest sharpener :-D
Sehr gutes und sehr sympatisches Review👍
Ich habe mir vor kurzem das TSPROF Blitz 360 Complete gekauft und bin noch nicht ganz dahinter gekommen warum oder wann ich das mitgelieferte digitale Messgerät nutzen soll wenn am Schleifgerät selber auch verschiedene Einstell Möglichkeiten für die verschiedenen Messerarten / Winkel vorhanden sind ! Viele Grüße Gennaro
Wenn Du wirklich wissen möchtest mit welchen Winkel Du deine Messer schärfst, dann musst Du das Messen. Aber für den normalen gebrauch reichen auch die Symbole am Gerät...da hast Du schon Recht! LG
👍❤️🇨🇦 love sharp knives
me too 😄
Very nice video! Just 1 little naggy thing, softer music in the intro
Thanks for the tip
Hallo Felix.
Super Video!
Ich finde deine Reviews einfach super! Ich mag deine direkte und ehrliche Art - in keiner sekunde hat man jemals das gefühl das irgend ein Produktplacement oder Sponsoring dahinterstecken könnte - sehr aufrichtig und sympatisch. Dadurch entsteht Vertrauen!
Ja klar, wenns um Victorinox geht, da könnte man meinen…aber hey sorry, jeder der in der Schweiz aufgewachsen ist, kann die Liebe und die Faszination (und somit auch deine Begeisterung und Leidenschaft) zum Sackhegäl einfach nachvollziehen🤩
Ich bin auf der Suche nach einem Schleifsystem für meine Victorinox, Outdoor- und einigen Küchenmesser und da bin ich wieder beim Meister gelandet, wie könnte es auch anders sein😉 mir ist das Lansky Set im Hintergrund aufgefallen…wie zufrieden warst du damit/was hälst du davon?
Danke auch an alle anderen für den Tipp mit dem Worksharp Precision Adjust…macht einen guten Eindruck und liegt ebenfalls in „meiner Kosten/Nutzen“ Kategorie.
Weiter so und Vielen Dank im Voraus.
Beste Grüsse,
Fabio.
Hallo fabio. Mit den Lansky bin ich absolut zufrieden.
Where's it for 10$??
On gear best it is about 25 right now...
Ask and you shall received!
Thank you!
👋🇧🇾✌️. Very interesting 👍👍👍!
Thank you! Cheers!
A load of nonsense and complete waste of money. Sharpening is an easy skill to master, if you don’t become hyper-obsessive and overthink it - hallmarks of our age, I’m afraid.
I can understand your thoughts... you are right...
@@FelixImmler I rudely overstated my opinion (as usual) - if people like these things, why not? But my father taught me to sharpen a knife when I was 8 years old - the peak of my intelligence - and it’s just not that hard. Cheers.
Common u are makeing so interresting vids but i still cant understand what are u saying becouse u are saying so many ssssss essis sink senks wis but why ? 😭
Beside the price there is another significant downside of that sharpener - it comes from Russia - the country which tries to destroy Europe, and finally the money you pay will be spend for terrorism and destruction. And that is pity because the sharpener looks good.
WTF?
OK - I get it - Russian humour :-)
@@paulreeves8251, Russian troops killed more than 15'000 people at the east of Ukraine during the last 8 years and keep doing that. Do you find that funny?
@@szhyla Perhaps if the 'West' hadn't tried to drive a wedge between Ukraine and Russia that might never have happened. We could go a long way with the blame game. Still not sure whether this is in any way relevant to the subject at hand - knife sharpeners.
@@paulreeves8251 there is no blame games or wedges of the "West". There is a war - Russian aggression against Ukraine. Just to remind it is Russia who occupies territories of Ukraine (Crimea and parts of Donetsk and Lugansk districts at the east) and not vice versa. However, here in Ukraine, nobody blames Russia in what they did, because we understand that aggression against neighbors is a nature of Russia. They will never stop. They will try to conquer everything around as long as they have chance and money for that. An this fact comes us to the point that any goods, wither it is natural gas or knife sharpener, bought in Russia supports Russian aggression no matter against whoever they can. Today it is Ukraine, tomorrow it will be Poland, Hungary, Slovak or Austria - depends on how long they will have money.