Saints Row Reboot: Deep Shillver

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • Saints Row Reboot has transformed the Saints Row community significantly since its stunningly terrible announcement. Ever since then, I've been inundated with requests to do more research into the publishing company behind the game, "Deep Silver".
    Originally, I believed there wasn't much more that needed to be said in regards to them. Turns out, I was shockingly wrong, as they have in place by far one of the strangest programmes I think I've ever seen from any video game company in my life: The Deep Silver Creators Collective.

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  • @HouseHexagon
    @HouseHexagon  3 года назад +328

    Alright, now that we've got that out the way, who wants to see "A Brief History of Troy's Cigarette"?

  • @LiveHedgehog
    @LiveHedgehog 3 года назад +371

    Gamergate started as a pushback against these game journalists being in the companies' pockets, but the journalists spun it to be about sexism or bollocks like that, and the masses believed them. It's unfortunate really.

    • @mistersippi2945
      @mistersippi2945 3 года назад +12

      Because if there’s one thing “gamers” are known for its being decent to each other, loving women, and not throwing temper tantrums. Oh wait....
      The reason people don’t want to be called “gamers” is because they’re usually shitty people. I don’t think that’s the fault of video games, but it’s a medium that encourages you to never grow up, and act like children your whole lives. They’re so unbelievably entitled they think being a fan of something gives them ownership of it.
      It’s like the “adults” (spoiled fruits) who cried because “Pokémon Sword and Shield was for kids” thinking that they were still the target audience. We take nothing seriously except for entertainment which we treat like it’s important. Pokémon isn’t for adults. It’s always been that way. Saints Row (reboot) is for the same age audience that Saints Row 1 was.
      Problem is most adults today think EVERYTHING is for them and cry about how it wasn’t tailor made for them. Most adults are just old kids especially in this country, and we want people to acknowledge that by refusing to grow up.
      I get it. You don’t like it so you’re having a fit. Too bad. It’s not for you. Don’t treat these devs like they’re your pals, or you’re equals, or they need your input. Same group of people who attack others for not liking Cyberpunk 2077 because it works on PC. Same people who act like they’re doing something rather than consuming entertainment when they make videos like these. Get over it.

    • @LiveHedgehog
      @LiveHedgehog 3 года назад +26

      @@mistersippi2945 ruclips.net/video/o_ORQA-NtZE/видео.html

    • @blues4509
      @blues4509 3 года назад +70

      @@mistersippi2945 I always find it entertaining when people whine about others' criticisms of things they love and then act like they're the ones that don't have something to "get over".

    • @gnarkillguch
      @gnarkillguch 3 года назад +25

      I was there at the beginning of GG. It definitely started out strong, and the media smeared the hell out of it (and still does). But the main thing that killed it was ego, infighting, and grifters. Eventually it all just petered out with a wimper.

    • @motivated2473
      @motivated2473 3 года назад +28

      @@mistersippi2945
      Dude, I don't think you know what marketing is xd
      The company serves his fanbase, since it needs to cater to someone to make sure their games are buyed. They may don't need to pretend being pals of their fans, but they do because it's convenient for them.
      At least it would, if Volition had a mind of his own, but since they are a sub company of a bigger company, they were destined to take the dumb path and try to cater to a more noisy minority of people. This move was completely inept and nonsensical, it got treated as such. Right now the devs for the Reboot are insulting the fans, but apparently since all gamers are toxic people then that is not a childish approach to the problem since two wrongs make a right, i guess.
      ¿Do I really need to explain why the idea that all people who play videogames are toxic and awful is such a ridiculous statement? As all communities, there are rotten apples, but the Gamergate as a whole had a noble purpose and it came from a just place. People like you sing the worst part of the community to support your arguments are really pathetic.
      You need to get the stick out of your a** pronto, the video upstairs that you obviously didn't watch is a critique as valid as any other and supported his arguments perfectly, but apparently it's wrong because it didn't agree with your point of view (Since you are an hypocrite). ¿What is it exactly the problem of the majority of people disliking the game? ¿Is it because YOU like the reboot and it angers you that people don't just accept whatever they are given? ¿Don't you realize how childish and inmature that is?
      Please grow up.

  • @ROBOHOLIC1
    @ROBOHOLIC1 3 года назад +550

    I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly the new "fans" overtook the sub

    • @PrinceVegita1
      @PrinceVegita1 3 года назад +154

      Forget about that sub lmao. Literally got downvoted for saying that SR1 and 2 weren't GTA clones 🤨

    • @Anonymous-Wolf
      @Anonymous-Wolf 3 года назад +64

      You can even see 15 yo girls on twitter . I mean WTF ! . they came from nowhere .

    • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
      @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 3 года назад +96

      You gotta check the downvoted comments in the subreddit to find the legitimate users. Scroll all the way down. The downvote brigade drowns out all criticism of the game -- if it goes against the narrative.

    • @joeycommet45
      @joeycommet45 3 года назад +76

      That is genuinely weird. You'll get downvoted to hell for criticizing the reboot, and removed by mods for making fun of it. I guess that's just a typical reddit moment.

    • @gillespriod5509
      @gillespriod5509 3 года назад +66

      Volition is fucked, the game clearly sucks even in gamepay and content-wise if they are using these strategies to sell, im very happy to see the game flop! Saints row was 1 and 2,Im more angry at cockstar right now taking down the mods of the my favourite games (3 an VC) shame on them! they do it just because they cant reach the quality of the mods in their products!! they hope to resell us the "remasters" no thank, i already remaster them myself!

  • @jaredsheldon3496
    @jaredsheldon3496 3 года назад +417

    It was so disappointing how people on Reddit think Saints Row is saved because they brought back layered clothing.

    • @revocable1687
      @revocable1687 3 года назад +81

      That should show you how people of reddit are guitarded

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +79

      They praise the shit out of game for no valid reason whatsoever and do not accept any criticism:
      The game is soft? Well duuuhh, they tired of EdGy HuMoUr, Jim Robs still has the same joke, wake up xdddddddd
      The characters are not gangster? That's because we don't know them yet, preorder the game (I would recommend Super Duper Ultimatum Edition) to play da game and learn the story!11!

    • @VinnyUnion
      @VinnyUnion 3 года назад +41

      @@ChainikVlad i think the reason they praise the little things are because these little things are the only things to be excited of this huge pile of crap. Basically setting the bar low and every little crap you do looks automatically massive just like that chicken up their rears.

    • @ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012
      @ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 3 года назад +30

      Nowadays people praises pointless things in a game instead of actual content

    • @edwin99901
      @edwin99901 3 года назад

      @@ChainikVlad I cant let a brand within a video game ruin the rest of the fun to to be had.. that's like me saying I'm not playing gta 6 because they changed trans fender to ls customs. It's silly. I understand everything said in this video, but its said in a way to make you feel guilty for supporting this game when the complaints against it arent even impactful to the enjoyment I always had in a saints row game.

  • @TheLeadElite
    @TheLeadElite 3 года назад +220

    Ugh, even the term “the collective” has a slimey sinister sound to it. “You must say good things and ONLY good things. If your opinion does not conform to ‘the collective’ you will be removed.”

  • @connordorman117
    @connordorman117 3 года назад +324

    Don’t tease us, give us a brief history Johnny Gats frosted tips! Just the tips.

    • @JokerSaintsRow
      @JokerSaintsRow 3 года назад +7

      *pause*

    • @SuzukiCabs
      @SuzukiCabs 3 года назад +7

      @@JokerSaintsRow play*

    • @rasheemthebestfirstone3274
      @rasheemthebestfirstone3274 3 года назад +4

      They messed it up in saints row 3

    • @SavageBunnyGetMoney
      @SavageBunnyGetMoney 3 года назад +2

      i personally think it was inspiration from Paulie Walnuts from The Sopranos as back in the 90s that show was really good

    • @Latitz
      @Latitz 2 года назад

      @@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 Yep. His top was legit. In 3 it went celebrity and i don't think old school gangster like Johnny would care shit about celebrity fashion.

  • @V5TheLegend
    @V5TheLegend 3 года назад +169

    Mans has literally called out multiple Content Creator without name dropping them, Jeez Louis

    • @WowPlusWow
      @WowPlusWow 3 года назад +7

      He only called out Saints Godzilla

    • @bliczb8772
      @bliczb8772 3 года назад +11

      @@WowPlusWow Not just him. There's also another section that made me think of another Creator.

  • @jayq196
    @jayq196 3 года назад +161

    I like how this trash reboot made this channel blow up at least something good came from it.

    • @therebelmanistallathesinger
      @therebelmanistallathesinger 3 года назад +30

      One mans trash is another man treasure
      Glad I found this channel and I hope this reboot doesn’t sell well so the devs realize how bad they messed up

    • @Josh10Force
      @Josh10Force 3 года назад +9

      @@therebelmanistallathesinger Gotta hope it crashes and burns like BF5. Maybe, just maybe, they'll actually see how much they messed up by catering to people who would NEVER BUY SAINTS ROW ANYWAYS.

    • @ludacorleone8563
      @ludacorleone8563 2 года назад

      @@Josh10Force oh it will just wait and see

  • @kenjinuma
    @kenjinuma 3 года назад +57

    Holy shit house hex, you just puts Saintsgodzilla situation perfectly, hes even taking a break because of it. Fucking insane man great stuff dude.

  • @UltimusShadow.
    @UltimusShadow. 3 года назад +25

    This basically describes "certain" RUclipsrs who shilled for Cyberpunk 2077 last year. Sitting in their Yellowchairs with statues behind them shilling their own merch with Cyberpunk font.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 3 года назад +81

    It's just sad that these "fans" are louder than the actual fans who supported them. And they prefer listening to the "fans"
    Deep Silver is like EA, sadly they were many companies like this. They're like ruining everything they touched
    I hope Saints Row has a decent developer and publisher... Actually you don't really need publisher.

    • @greatbudda
      @greatbudda 3 года назад

      There really not louder on sites not "moderated" you see actual fans opinions.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 3 года назад +1

      Exactly what happened with Rockstar Games. Take-Two has made them milk GTA: Online for profit and it likely is the reason why Dan, Lazlow and Leslie all left.

  • @foxcoffin
    @foxcoffin 3 года назад +10

    This reminds me a lot of cyberpunk situation all the early youtube reviewers telling us sweet little lie before release only to find out every one who play the game early were shills payoff with t-shirts, stickers, and exclusive gameplay no one else can see

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine 3 года назад

      Also sounds like how Bethesda tried to bribe people for good reviews the same way with merch, studio tours, etc for Fallout 76 (might have been Fallout 4, don't remember).

  • @SaulTacMan
    @SaulTacMan 3 года назад +50

    I won’t lie. I could watch this guy talk for hours

  • @samboyo9372
    @samboyo9372 3 года назад +34

    It reminds me of when some RUclipsrs got gifts and free trips abroad to play Cyberpunk 2077 before release and then they'd review the game 10/10 and then massively backpedal a couple days later because of the gigantic backlash. Such a joke unbiased my ass

    • @Saifullah-nj9mz
      @Saifullah-nj9mz 3 года назад

      Bro can you say those idiot RUclipsrs name

    • @bliczb8772
      @bliczb8772 3 года назад +9

      @@Saifullah-nj9mz Well, for example, YongYea? He was invited by CDPR to play a demo for Cyberpunk, and then claimed it was the best game ever made. Fast forward to launch (that was made after 4 delays... In a single year...), and here we are.

    • @ladrok97
      @ladrok97 3 года назад

      Well in this case problematic were bugs. Developers promised this is not newest build and newest will have fewer bugs. Turned out that they got way more bugs in the final build

  • @jaylancorpening4278
    @jaylancorpening4278 3 года назад +36

    It’s lookin bad fellas, we may be entering the “bad timeline”

    • @Adam_X78
      @Adam_X78 3 года назад +2

      Let’s hope not

    • @richardwatson1254
      @richardwatson1254 3 года назад +8

      You're already in it since 2013.

    • @onlychild5213
      @onlychild5213 3 года назад +1

      @@richardwatson1254 you mean since the 1960s

  • @thegifting267
    @thegifting267 3 года назад +91

    I wonder if Flippy is in this club, like he basically had a entire new tone between his Dex video and his reboot one.

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +41

      @@PrinceVegita1 Godzilla and Flipster mentioned long gameplay for content creators, so I think they both are in this program.

    • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
      @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 3 года назад +24

      He is compromised.

    • @bliczb8772
      @bliczb8772 3 года назад +58

      @@PrinceVegita1 See, here's the thing - when Flippy talked about reboot, he did criticize characters a bit... But it was nothing in comparison with his old days of him constantly shitting on SR3 and 4. Overall, in his video, he was... Weirdly positive about it. Like... There was a shift in behaviour over the 3 year break he took.

    • @kai-wr6yk
      @kai-wr6yk 3 года назад +3

      @@bliczb8772 maybe its because he doesn’t criticize a game that didn’t come out with gameplay he did the same thing with agents of mayhem. also i feel like most fans are ungrateful asf. the series is a decade old and ppl are judging a game as a whole from just a trailer

    • @RalseiGote69
      @RalseiGote69 3 года назад +44

      @@kai-wr6yk They're judging it off way more than just a trailer man. The behavior of the company itself, the sudden shift in opinion, and now this super secret collective thing. If a game is acting this shady before its even out, then that game most likely isn't going going be that great. Who knows though.

  • @charmingpeasant9834
    @charmingpeasant9834 3 года назад +26

    I've been seeing a fair amount of people simping for the reboot with the claims of influencers,
    that were invited for the behind closed doors gameplay demo, giving the reboot nothing but praise.
    It's unbelievable how gullible and ignorant people still are in 2021,
    especially after the Cyberpunk 2077 behind closed doors fake demo,
    where the likes of YongYea said it's the bestest game ever.

  • @balotelli5572
    @balotelli5572 3 года назад +128

    If flippy and saints Godzilla really like this game then we truly live in a dark timeline

    • @bliczb8772
      @bliczb8772 3 года назад +84

      See, here's the thing - the content creator that Hexagon mentioned in the video? The one that was kept in the dark about the plotline, so he was used as an artificial hype for the game, because they showed him gameplay only, and then got all the shits because he was misinformed? Yeah, that was about Saint's Godzilla. And frankly? He's absolutely furious with Volition for what they did. To quote him - if he knew about the new cast, he'd keep a lid on his excitement. Yes, it's that bad. He still stands that gameplay is the best he's ever seen, but he hates the everliving crap out of the new cast. Honestly, I've never heard him this angry before, and it kind of scares me.
      I'll be real, he did not deserve all the hate he got, but ultimately, it was Volition/Deep Silver that, knowingly, put him in this predicament. At first, I had my own theories, but after watching this video, this whole situation makes more sense then my mental delusions.

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +41

      SaintsGodzilla was furious like hell, I've watched that man back to the days of SR3 glitches and DLC reviews and I've never heard him being this angry.
      Someone will probably bring his Agents Of Mayhem review, where he gave the score of 8/10 and didn't mentioned gameplay that much, but I don't think he was shill, just a lame review - nothing more. But if he is shill and that video about him being angry was fabricated - that would be too much for the community.

    • @PrinceVegita1
      @PrinceVegita1 3 года назад +24

      @@bliczb8772 I gained a lot of respect for godzilla ranting about how he was deceived.

    • @bliczb8772
      @bliczb8772 3 года назад +13

      @@ChainikVlad You know, you just reminded me - flippy mentioned that he and Godzilla got early copies of AOM. At one point, the build they were playing was glitchy as hell. The reason they didn't mind was because it was in middle of development, so they mentioned here and there, but they weren't too excessive about it, because they didn't want to sound like haters. However, couple of weeks before the release, they played it again, it was still glitchy, and they were wondering when the day one patch was gonna go live for the build, so they called Volition about it... And they told them that day one patch went live last week, and dreadful realization kicked in.
      That being said - that review was 4 years ago, and not a single review released since. Probably enough time for self-reflection, or he simply realized he's not good at reviews. That, and, well, even if he was a shill back then, there was nothing to shill for past 4 years or so. That, and, well, after glitches were fixed, AOM was actually a fun game. Marketing and release just made sure it stayed in the ground.
      I highly doubt his video of him raging was fabricated. I doubt he'd be able to fake that. But, if he can fake that rage, then damn, dude should try becoming actor, because that's damn well believable. He points out serious flaws in Volition's marketing, which, well, if they'd want to keep that a secret, they sure as shit wouldn't want him saying that. If it does however turn out to be all fake, somehow, then... Christ, I don't want to think what would even happen.
      You know... Maybe I'm biased, maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm just scared that the guy I had respect for turns out to be a scumbag. I'm really hoping this is him being genuine, because at the end of the day, he is simply worried for Volition. And so am I.

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад

      @@bliczb8772 We can only speculate at this point, tbh, as I said - I doubt, that he fabricated his rage and AOM review was biased. I hope that ain't true, but I can't throw out of window the possibities of those things happening.

  • @JadedWarlock
    @JadedWarlock 3 года назад +28

    That's why I am not in any of those "communities". I just chill out with me and the boys.

  • @Kiezly
    @Kiezly 3 года назад +66

    I’m happy your videos exist! it’s nice to see someone standing up for what’s right!

  • @hxnda29
    @hxnda29 3 года назад +70

    since we're making fun of ign, i'd like to point out they gave the buggy mess that was wwe 2k20 a 4.3, which is .7 lower than what they gave battle for bikini bottom rehydrated.
    to accuse them of being biased i would of course need a motive, which i do actually have. when wwe 2k19's cover was revealed, it solely featured male wrestler aj styles, which ign complained about because they thought it should be a woman. wwe 2k20's cover had two wrestlers, one of which being a woman. as far as i'm concerned, that piece of shit game got a 4.3 solely because there was a woman on the cover.

  • @artem4ik281
    @artem4ik281 3 года назад +25

    Subreddit of this game is pure hell. Fanboys downvote all critical comments, I even saw one dude BEING THIRSTY OVER KEVIN and getting upvotes. Too much for me

    • @Ralphunreal
      @Ralphunreal 3 года назад +5

      no surprise, weird people roam reddit usually.

    • @TheFlankFrustrater
      @TheFlankFrustrater 3 года назад

      Oh no gay people exist, how awwwwwwwwful. Fucking grow up already

    • @artem4ik281
      @artem4ik281 3 года назад +5

      @@TheFlankFrustrater anime profile pick makes your opinion worthless

    • @donairechristianp
      @donairechristianp 3 года назад

      Sounds like something kpop twitter would do. Lol

  • @rosini112
    @rosini112 Год назад +2

    Just discovered you recently and you're now one of my favourite youtube channels. Great quality, great personality, intelligent points and overall entertaining!

  • @GaryDeeks
    @GaryDeeks 3 года назад +64

    Good video, man. Although, in the LieGN part you should have complained how hard the game is.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 3 года назад

      @Based Fuhrer *is given money* 10/10, like Skyrim, but with water!

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 3 года назад

      @Based Fuhrer I was referencing a video. I don't even play much Elder Scrolls.

  • @Braven-j7m
    @Braven-j7m 3 года назад +13

    There is a reason I haven't preordered any game for about 10 years now.

  • @ROCK_UNIVERSE97
    @ROCK_UNIVERSE97 3 года назад +54

    screw volition for making flippy and mrsaintsgodzilla look bad.

    • @ningen7736
      @ningen7736 3 года назад +16

      Honestly feel bad for Flippy, he’s been waiting for this for ages and it just ends up being garbo again.

    • @rishabmandal4710
      @rishabmandal4710 3 года назад +4

      Yeah I had this thought too, that why ain't they being honest about the reboot

    • @jamesmeldrum4563
      @jamesmeldrum4563 3 года назад +15

      Oh please, Flippy sold out totally with his Agents of Mayhem review. Fuck him!

    • @WowPlusWow
      @WowPlusWow 3 года назад +3

      They made themselves look bad.

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 3 года назад +4

      Lol it's their own fault, they're obviously in the "collective" they made themselves look bad thru their decisions.

  • @MutantMFM
    @MutantMFM 3 года назад +7

    The synopsis of this video fits well with anything that has an online fan base. Which shows the main issue is that these companies will try anything to control the narrative around their creations. Even if it means that they are going against their customers just because they can't manipulate them. As I have said before for these types of companies, stop buying their garbage. As they don't actually care about you, your feedback, or criticism. They just want to convince you to give your money to them no matter what they produce and they have made it obvious for years through their behavior.

  • @CelestialCaesar
    @CelestialCaesar 3 года назад +38

    As if I didn't need another reason to boycott this abomination, it's also an EGS exclusive. Crash and burn, reeeboot.

    • @Adam_X78
      @Adam_X78 3 года назад +13

      I really Hope the Saints Row community has enough common sense to not get this game

    • @Ralphunreal
      @Ralphunreal 3 года назад +3

      Now steam people know how fans of drm free feel when only steam gets a game and no drm free version.

  • @bananajoe4203
    @bananajoe4203 3 года назад +24

    Why call it saints row. The Row was the hood of stilwater, and the origin of its members. Call this shit saints college, cuz that’s what these characters are ripped straight out of.

    • @crasyman101
      @crasyman101 3 года назад

      In my city we have a gang called sycamore or "the Ave" because they're based in sycamore Ave.
      Most of sycamores members now a days don't live on or near sycamore Ave. Should they not be recognized as sycamore or Ave members if they live on Worthington St?

    • @alalvarez7301
      @alalvarez7301 2 года назад

      @@crasyman101 doesn't that make them subsets of Sycamore then?
      Then again we're comparing how gang sets work to a game that is made by people who don't even understand what drives one to crime in the first place besides what the Teenage mutant Ninja Turtles have "taught" them or someshit.

    • @crasyman101
      @crasyman101 2 года назад

      @@alalvarez7301 if they still acknowledge themselves as sycamore, and still keep that as a big part of their identity then no they're still sycamore. Usually a subsets created when part of the identity is changed which also leads to them changing the name in some way.

    • @alalvarez7301
      @alalvarez7301 2 года назад

      @@crasyman101 Ah I see. I was under this impression that subsets was like "Yeah they rep the flags but they're from a different neighborhood." Thanks for the correction.

  • @NewOrderOfAlexandria
    @NewOrderOfAlexandria 3 года назад +23

    Come Hexagon... Join the collective... We have free punch. Our leader is having a huge party around a table.

    • @LilCyco223
      @LilCyco223 3 года назад +1

      If only it were so...I'd provide the D-Con.

  • @TheCynicalAutist
    @TheCynicalAutist 3 года назад +6

    This is actually a great video, and it pretty much sums up what I was thinking about the reboot and the publishers, although with you also mentioning how the SR RUclipsrs were basically used to make the game seem awesome when in fact it would've just been another standard third person open world game with none of what made SR what it is, it makes the whole thing even more shady.

  • @TheMrRivash
    @TheMrRivash Год назад +1

    Mrsaintsgodzilla21 was a victim of this. I saw his stream when the CGI trailer was shown and almost all his fans called him sold out and lost 1000 subs in 1 hour.

  • @lastbriteSon
    @lastbriteSon 3 года назад +3

    This is the same situation with dmc devil may cry. Journalists and ninja theory kept pushing the narrative that fans are complaining about the lack of white hair, but when in fact most people were asking why the gameplay is being dumbed down, but nope fans are hating the game because "no white hair". There was a RUclipsr named event status who covered the whole debacle to the fullest.

  • @ArrowValley
    @ArrowValley 3 года назад +69

    One of my all time favourite series is Shenmue, now all memes aside (and yes, the games have aged as well as milk) they are still close to my heart of my gaming childhood.
    When Shenmue 3 was announced I was excited, the series I had waited for most of my life was finally coming. Then, Deep Silver got involved and I knew this game was going to be a disaster…….and it was.
    DS we’re not entirely to blame but anything they touch always has this unpleasant smell to it.

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +14

      I don't think it's entirely DS fault. Yu Suzuki himself wasn't aware of how gaming industry in this day and age works, Shenmue 3 still feels clunky like the past two games. Even if instead of Deep Silver it was, I dunno, Devolver for example - the game would be the same gameplay-wise. Story probably wouldn't ended on cliffhanger, but Suzuki also wanted to create 10 more games or something

    • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
      @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 3 года назад +5

      Shenmue 4 is gonna be mainstream, for sure. It's too niche to make a profit. Probably pushed by Deep Silver.

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 3 года назад +2

      @@ChainikVlad this guy's right, Yu Suzuki outright stated in an interview that he doesn't actually play videogames and didn't design Shenmue 3 with any modern inspirations at all. He also took up a job at Sega way back when solely because they had the most vacation time.

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 3 года назад +2

      also: play Yakuza, it's the best game series running nowadays

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 3 года назад +2

      Since the Mighty No. 9 fiasco I knew Deep Silver was absolute crap and a terrible publisher and they have not disappointed in that regard.

  • @iemzaf
    @iemzaf 3 года назад +15

    I've said this in a previous video, but I really like your style of commentary in regards to the slimy video game scene. Subscribed during the last video and this is already a channel I'm stopping everything I'm doing just to watch. Keep up the good work

  • @dragonballzkai9283
    @dragonballzkai9283 3 года назад +9

    This guy is quickly becoming my favorite RUclipsr

  • @Dimitri9511
    @Dimitri9511 3 года назад +11

    You know what sucks more than not been forced bias by a company?
    The same but with a political party or authoritarian government.

  • @AidenRKrone
    @AidenRKrone 2 года назад +2

    For anyone wondering, the RUclipsr that he calls out towards the end of the video is mrsaintsgodzilla21, one of the most popular _Saints Row_ RUclipsrs.

  • @negan2714
    @negan2714 3 года назад +9

    EA has the Game Changer program and its about the same. Same for the idiots that ruin CoD every year.

    • @Adam_X78
      @Adam_X78 3 года назад

      One of my favourite walking dead characters right here

    • @WowPlusWow
      @WowPlusWow 3 года назад +1

      The recent CoDs have been really good tho.

  • @Bitter-Wounds
    @Bitter-Wounds 3 года назад +6

    Even mrsaintsgodzilla mad af

  • @No-vq1iv
    @No-vq1iv 3 года назад +6

    Ironically the new THQ seems to be the polar opposite of Deep Silver, despite being owned by the same company. They release quality titles for the most part, they are available in all major digital stores at launch (including GOG), they have no micro-transactions, nor do they nickel and dime you with tons of shitty DLC and the handful of remasters they released (including that of Red Faction Guerilla) are free for people who own the original.

  • @LeSuperFishe
    @LeSuperFishe 3 года назад +6

    14:25 i remember getting politically insulted by that group and that same mod you adressed genuinely they went after my social medias and twitch account raiding me i wish the worst for the people in that group, im giving you a sub for this

  • @M2xim
    @M2xim 3 года назад +10

    I really like your channel. I always get that internet historian vibe watching your videos.

  • @ro4486
    @ro4486 3 года назад +4

    So glad I found this gem of a channel keep up the hustle man.

  • @greatbudda
    @greatbudda 3 года назад +6

    Lol this puts a lot of things in perspective. I was wondering why certain youtubers were saying they didn't know this isn't what they saw or why they kept mentioning the gameplay 🤔

  • @doclouis4236
    @doclouis4236 3 года назад +2

    Amazing follow up from the previous video.
    Cheers, man.

  • @ChainikVlad
    @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +38

    *Hey, I've expected history of Johnny Gat's frosted tips from the video called "Saints Row Reboot: Deep Shillver"*
    *unsub, dislike*
    But for real - after Metro: Exodus shite from Deep Silver - I've always expected new Saints Row to be somewhat in disgusting situation. Never expected to be this bad, though. But this collective isn't surprising, to be honest - how company as bad as DS can make a better image for themselves without paying someone? Making a good decisions for fans/customers is never the option for them.

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 3 года назад

      Wait, what happened with Metro Exodus?

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad 3 года назад +1

      @@ohnoitschris Epic Games Store deal, which resulted in removing the game from Steam store.
      I believe it was also like two weeks before game's launch.

  • @oranghue6866
    @oranghue6866 3 года назад +4

    I’m calling it, this video is going to be taken down soon.

  • @chrisloco9
    @chrisloco9 3 года назад +2

    Anyone else feel really bad for saintsgodzilla? He was practically bringing back the saints row community himself and they did him hella dirty

  • @DarkKiller-0
    @DarkKiller-0 3 года назад +13

    Love the effort put into these

  • @yarr_bro
    @yarr_bro 2 года назад +1

    Goddamn hidden gem of a channel. Bravo.
    edit: holy shit the outro was legendary

  • @DominatorLegend
    @DominatorLegend 3 года назад +11

    Goddamn power-tripping Discord mods, the lowliest form of attack hounds.

  • @hideakiakio6698
    @hideakiakio6698 3 года назад +2

    The first thing that pops into my head when I hear the term influencers is Camelworks praising doors casting shadows in Skyrim special edition as if it's such a revolutionary thing.

  • @mrredisa.d.d.8566
    @mrredisa.d.d.8566 3 года назад +9

    THANK YOU for mentioning the 'layered clothing' thing, haha.
    Those are the people who want everyone to "...just wait and see how it is".
    stop 'em right there. YES, it's true that a trailer could be a bad representation of the game, but
    it's also a tell for what DEMOGRAPHIC they are aiming for.
    When they release a trailer that some might call 'woke' (and "PC") and not one character in the trailer says anything even remotely edgy (like in all the SR games before)
    ...then it makes you realize the game will most likely be along those same lines to appeal to that demographic. Sorry. that's just the truth. These marketers (creators of the trailers) would not accidentally send the wrong message, because it's all very calculated

  • @capitalTD
    @capitalTD 3 года назад +5

    The layered clothing bit had me 😂

  • @miss__monique
    @miss__monique 3 года назад +2

    I have a feeling that a video on the history of Johhny Gat's frosted tips will be better than saints row 5 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @theprofoundknight
    @theprofoundknight 3 года назад +6

    I really appreciate your honesty. Please never sell yourself like the others. you are definitely a breath of fresh air.

  • @_ExTitus
    @_ExTitus 3 года назад +12

    I wonder how long this was intended to be an epic games exclusive. The graphical style is starting to make sense to me now

    • @alexf0723
      @alexf0723 3 года назад +3

      Cartoony doesn't mean Fortnite, Metro Exodus was epic exclusive, does it look like Fortnite? Lmao

    • @Ralphunreal
      @Ralphunreal 3 года назад

      the graphic style doesn't have to do with epic, several games are using that style.

  • @ohnoitschris
    @ohnoitschris 3 года назад +3

    friendly reminder that Deep Silver also published Mighty No. 9, lmao

  • @SMmania123
    @SMmania123 3 года назад

    House Hexagon straight up predicted what Deep Silver is doing right now, great job dude.

  • @minakatahizuru
    @minakatahizuru Год назад +1

    Come here for frosted tips history sir.

  • @formulatheprod2659
    @formulatheprod2659 3 года назад +5

    12:45 He's definitely referring to mrsaintsgodzilla21 in this part. I've been subscribed to this guy for years and was even in his live stream when him and some other saints row channels were in his stream and I seen the reactions live. It was a blood bath.

  • @pyropsycho9292
    @pyropsycho9292 3 года назад +8

    Seriously, I wanna see the frosted tips video

  • @Ma1q444
    @Ma1q444 3 года назад +3

    I just went on the Reddit and oh my the followers of that sub have been over run with casuals

  • @Journey_to_who_knows
    @Journey_to_who_knows 3 года назад +3

    game publishers are like letting a baby wolf into your house, at first it's cool and you can play fetch but then it grows up and leaves you cowering in your own house while it eats your grandma and wears your slippers while making demands

  • @dimitriwarchief301
    @dimitriwarchief301 3 года назад +2

    “Whats wrong with you people”
    They like simple stuff simple stuff

  • @Ondude389
    @Ondude389 3 года назад

    I love that you use BO's menu theme and Gat cuts. Quality content.
    EDIT: And CRASH theme at the end? Hellll yeah!

  • @paranoidpony6861
    @paranoidpony6861 3 года назад +2

    The worst thing is influencers being put into games. We don't need real world crossovers. Why are video games trying to be movies all of a sudden?

    • @carolthepyro899
      @carolthepyro899 3 года назад +1

      Cameos of real people have been a thing since the 90s. Having influencers in a game isn't really an issue at all.

  • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
    @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 3 года назад +2

    Damn I love these videos! House Hex is one-of-a-kind -- who else is doing the work of exposing this corruption? Protect him at all costs. I also expect a huge astroturfing campaign leading up closer to release. They know they messed up with the reveal, and have a long way to go to recover. Gameplay is now their key crutch, because the characters are lame, and most likely the story is weak, considering that the premise is: that these are college students that decided to try and sample the gang-bangin' lifestyle in order to reduce their student loan debt.

  • @jolly_bad8208
    @jolly_bad8208 3 года назад +1

    Way before all this happened, like 6 months ago at least, I remember seeing a video by somebody who was rallying people to get hyped for a new sr game.
    My initial thoughts literally were "they disappointed us before and they can disappoint us again."
    Learning about this "collective" explains a lot though. Maybe I should find that vid again and comment "told ya so."

  • @spectrumblastgaming
    @spectrumblastgaming 3 года назад +2

    I mean my whole thing is that for god of war (2018) and horizon zero dawn. I watched people I like review them and overhype them to the point where it was like I already played the games.
    Then when I actually bought them to play them, I was totally let down because all the overhype

  • @KingKrouch
    @KingKrouch 3 года назад +2

    Glad to see people are finally using the term Deep Shillver. I started using it after the Metro Exodus and Shenmue 3 EGS fiascos.

  • @AaA-zo9jj
    @AaA-zo9jj 3 года назад +3

    Deepsilver more like deepshitter...

  • @Ppenny-pw8ji
    @Ppenny-pw8ji 2 года назад +1

    Idk history of Johnny Gats tips does sound pretty entertaining after your about 3 shots or 3 bowls in

  • @candymustache.
    @candymustache. 3 года назад +3

    Still waiting for those frosted tips 🤧

  • @why-is-this-handle--a-thing
    @why-is-this-handle--a-thing 3 года назад +3

    a history on gats frosted tips is probably goin to be way much better than the history of this watch dogs 2 clone labeled as saints row

  • @arkgaharandan5881
    @arkgaharandan5881 3 года назад +4

    ggmanlives was part of ea game changers he said anthem was a mess and it was not the game he played when he was invited from ea to play a preview build....and he was thrown out of the ea game changers partners program.

  • @theegg7520
    @theegg7520 3 года назад +1

    Bro, you can Sliver Deep in my creator club whenever you want. Keep up the awesome content!

  • @hoagiemacintosh781
    @hoagiemacintosh781 3 года назад +11

    Playing SR2 now, fuck the world

    • @alandanger6285
      @alandanger6285 3 года назад +4

      Same i just finished with the sons of samedi

    • @Adam_X78
      @Adam_X78 3 года назад

      Yupa

  • @Xanderman
    @Xanderman 3 года назад +2

    Waiting for reviews until I pull the trigger on this one for sure.

  • @Gruntvc
    @Gruntvc 3 года назад +3

    Think Gmanlives is in this program? He shilled hard for a few recent disappointing AA-AAA games.
    Real sad to see these devs end up like this. Miss the og Red Faction.

  • @Adam_X78
    @Adam_X78 3 года назад +5

    Trust me the Saints Row RUclipsrs they’re not going to learn you’re speaking too much truth And that scares people nowadays because it’s not what they want to hear

  • @uuddlrlrbas9904
    @uuddlrlrbas9904 3 года назад +2

    Gotta be real with everybody in the chat, I was always going to pick up a copy of this. Mostly to laugh at how god-awful the plot is, that "leaked" gameplay almost tricked me into thinking it was going to be good but it's not. The only decent thing about it will be when you're away from the homies and just doing your own thing.

    • @JokerSaintsRow
      @JokerSaintsRow 3 года назад

      You are literally the most correct person I have seen comment after that leak.

  • @HecKs32x
    @HecKs32x 3 года назад +16

    can’t believe we’re getting a LGBT saints game

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 3 года назад +1

      in before: tHeReS lGbT iN sR4!!!
      yeah, but it wasn't forced.

  • @CornflakesCereal
    @CornflakesCereal 3 года назад +3

    Im gonna link this video in the subreddit and see what happens

    • @CornflakesCereal
      @CornflakesCereal 3 года назад +4

      It was removed 2 hours in

    • @Menoly
      @Menoly 3 года назад

      @@CornflakesCereal lol

    • @CornflakesCereal
      @CornflakesCereal 3 года назад +1

      @@Menoly im banned from it for 3 days lol

    • @Menoly
      @Menoly 3 года назад

      @@CornflakesCereal its been 3 days post it again

  • @nutsackjames7850
    @nutsackjames7850 3 года назад +1

    Bro.. please make a video of a brief history of Johnny Gat’s frosted tips.. thank you

  • @iamdanyc93
    @iamdanyc93 3 года назад +4

    This just inspired me to ruffle some feathers in the Saints for a sub Reddit !

  • @rishabmandal4710
    @rishabmandal4710 3 года назад +6

    I never knew about this. And talking about being in a contract with Deep Silver collective contract I kinda have a guess about whom you're talking about.

  • @Adam_X78
    @Adam_X78 3 года назад +4

    This video pretty much sums up Saint Godzilla’s and RPG’s mentality

  • @iaobtc
    @iaobtc 3 года назад +1

    If the reboot has done any good at all it was introducing me to your channel

  • @MHPCollecting
    @MHPCollecting 2 года назад +1

    Johnny Gats Frosted tips - The frosted tips "Disappeared" because Johnny Gat couldn't dye his hair in prison 🤫 lol Great video though House Hexagon ✌️

  • @matthewhelm5480
    @matthewhelm5480 3 года назад +1

    This really does upset me. As the first two and even the 3rd and 4th were my child hood I played them more than gta. The 3rd and 4th while not true to the beginning were still fun and engaging for younger me. I wish they would listen to fans similar as battlefield and cod are realizing rn. That they are what makes the companies money they can’t just become heartless companies

  • @stormer9952
    @stormer9952 3 года назад +15

    When you did the LieGN skit you should've said "The darksouls of stick man games"

  • @Masterpsychosis999
    @Masterpsychosis999 3 года назад +1

    This definitely makes me scared about the future of Gaming even though it's been going on for a long time games that get promoted by big RUclipsrs and then when these games fail they pretend that these games never existed and they move on to the next cash grab truly a untrustworthy future of The Gaming Community it's crazy to think I was 13 years old when Saints Row 4 came out and now I'm 20 it seems like when money is involved it pretty much ruins everything 😂😂😭😭😈🤑😈

  • @4storyboss
    @4storyboss 3 года назад

    "casinos are always being rigged in favor of the house"
    hold on, that kinda reminds me of need for speed payback

  • @non-processedyoutuber1112
    @non-processedyoutuber1112 3 года назад +5

    That’s why I’m laughing my ass off that Death Loop is getting 10s from those sites.

  • @WolfStorm13
    @WolfStorm13 3 года назад +1

    How does this guy make such high quality videos and only have 5.7k subscribers

  • @KekkanSeihin
    @KekkanSeihin 3 года назад +5

    Turn off Vegas' Resampling to get rib of ghosting, please. It will improve the video quality a lot.

  • @GAMIR_SFM
    @GAMIR_SFM 3 года назад +1

    Woah! Now i see why a certain channel was always positive about the new game and also removed "hateful" comments 🤔

  • @adamkroupa5855
    @adamkroupa5855 3 года назад +2

    I am now primed for the frosted tips video