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I was going to ask if that was the case I see you have addressed it. Thanks for the video these ppl are being ugly and they are acting like they want to help. Thanks for calling them out.
As an above comment says this account is a caricature of personality disorders, so 'SPD' here is referring to schizoid personality disorder rather than sensory processing disorder
Borderline personality disorder has now also been changed to EUPD, emotionally unstable personality disorder. As a borderline I hate it but here we are
Like. Even when there can be very different opinions from people with the same conditions about that, some would said is bad to take any didorder as entertaient like that, even when is linked to independient not comercial art, or on the opposite side, the gallery is a wonderfull way to ilustrate and summary the most important simphtoms for someone who will never experience it purelly or people who likes to fell identified. Buuut,this comic idea ies different, even when is not breaking the law as far as I know, it could be very dangerous for very young audiences and people who takes too easy on this kind of disorders. And also, it does not want to broke or ignore stereotypes, it feeds completelly of them. Thats is the main 'yikes'.
TW: sh I've had handwashing ocd before and my hands were literally cracked and bleeding. I put hand sanitizer on my hands full of cuts once and my special ed teacher thought I was doing the big ouch, it sucks.
Yeah I also have ocd, and I don’t clean my room because I know if I clean it consistently it will turn into an obsession and that would be too overwhelming.
Imagine if someone tried to make lgbt characters, except they did things like making the gay guy overly sexual while speaking in the most stereotypical gay voice possible, or make the lesbian short haired and overly masculine.
Its already the norm today and not only applied to fictional characters but also to real people. I've seen a lot "wow, she's so masculine, she must be lesbian!" etc on internet
I HATE the whole “people with ocd are really organized” stereotype and when undiagnosed people say “OmG mY oCd Is AcTiNg Up” when something isn’t perfect. As someone with OCD, I am literally the least organized person I know.
Man, seeing OCD/OCPD portrayed as a asian person just makes me very frustrated as it feeds into that one stereotype that every asian person is some high grades, neat, serious person or some shit. Its a fucked stereotype that some people may not notice they contribute to but are even if they dont mean harm (in general yk?) ok tiny rant over -a slightly mad korean-american
As an academically failing full east asian. I agree. I also despise when even my asian friends state that making having good grades a consistent want is the norm.
I was kind of surprised when she didn't include that in the rant about OCPD, that was the first thing coming to mind when I saw the character. It's just fucked up that they made them Asian because Asians "always get A++++ and are 100% neat 24/7". - A half Chinese.
Tbh, the idea of a character turning into a monster when they have mental flair ups would be really cool if done correctly (like instead of doing it just because, it could be a way to be like “You’re not a monster just because of this mental illness/disorder” and as they slowly start to believe it, they stop changing?)
hey if youre into animated shows there is one called the owl house and a main character called eda clearly has mental health issues. this is under the guise of a 'curse' that her sister placed on her and she has to take 'elixers' (meds) to stop the owl beast from flaring up. at some point in the show she addresses the trauma she went through and the curse doesnt fully stop showing up but it becomes much more manageable to live with. The owl house generally has great representation i would check it out :)
My dad has ocd and literally looks the exact opposite of that.. HE'S LITERALLY A BIKER FOR CHRIST'S SAKE-. It's not always perfection, nice, clean, slEEk that crap. It's mostly him getting mad at things left on the table, cleaning the car randomly, wanting to keep the couch, car interior etc nice. Not all ppl with ocd are nerdy perfectionist.
my dad doesen't freak out or anything over a little peice of dirt he just likes things to be clean, and everything to be balanced, and everything to be on time
I had ocd as a kid and I still have it to an extent without the compulsions. I used to have constant intrusive thoughts of murdering my friends and family and I'd have unwanted sexual thoughts about people. I would also have to pick up garbage not out of being a tidy person ( I was a hoarder and a slob ) but because if I didn't I'd become disfigured or my family would die or I'd go to hell. I also would have to do other compulsions constantly like turning the page in a book a certain amount of times or untying and retying my shoelaces many times until I appeased the ocd. Yeah, it never had anything to do with being tidy...just regularly having to carry out orders from my ocd otherwise something horrible would happen ( or so I believed ). I don't often say anything when people attribute their being neat with ocd I just kind of internally roll my eyes and hope that no one has to deal with the actual mind fuckery that is ocd.
The designs are really pretty and have nothing to do with disorders. If you scrubbed the labels off, they'd be fine. Can people go back to character designs based on flowers and gemstones please? You can do so much more with those aesthetically speaking and hurt way less people morally speaking (I absolutely stand behind getting into fandom drama over my aggressive hatred of Rhododendron, overrated and toxic as fuck)
the thing that really irks me is that the characters don't have names, or personalities, or backstories. they're just defined by their disorders and i find that really disgusting
yeah, where’s the life behind them? they’re personified disorders which is one thing on its own, but usually personifications have something to them, don’t they? my characters are semi-based on my interests, but i tried my best to give them lives, like most characters have.
I cringed so hard when I realized that this is all personality disorder and the SPD one might be Schizoid Personality Disorder. Girlie read each personality disorder on wikipedia and intepret it as if every person with that personality disorder 100% always acts like that like a trope/stereotype because it's a "personality" 😭
Hey just a heads up, SPD isn’t more common in children. It’s a lifelong thing. It’s just more likely to be diagnosed in children. And by adulthood it’s often less noticeable because we’ve learned to cope with our sensory sensitivities. Also, it’s not just being hyper sensitive to sensory input, it can also go the other way. Some people with SPD are “sensory seekers” where they need more sensory input than most people. This is often seen in kids who crash into walls and jump hard onto the ground.
My SPD was diagnosed when I was 7, and I still have to take occasional breaks from parties to recover in a secluded corner for a while. I’m generally sensory-avoidant, and although I’ve definitely learned to cope over the years, my SPD has never gone away. A recent dentist trip had me holding back the urge to get up and run out of the room when the dentist put a cotton roll in my mouth.
@@veggie_kller6964 Exactly I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 18 which is unfortunate but I noticed a lot of things for autistic people are mostly children things all the websites that you can buy things off of there like “for your autistic child” it’s really difficult for me to find things for me as an adult
@@jadetryingtochill1259 I remember that day when I got diagnosed with ASD my mum had some sites open in Russian on her phone when I was cooking and saw it, the first text I saw was saying "How to remove autism from my child" and oh god it looked horrifying thank god I can read Russian, my mum even says that my autism isn't gonna make me succeed in life at all..? I also can't wait to move the hell out of this house before my mum decides to do something bad. 2 years and 220 days wooo, made it this far :)
what really annoyed me was the bpd “meme.” as someone who often struggles with suicidal thoughts and knows how truly debilitating bpd is, i find it honestly degrading that they would make something so tone deaf like that.
i actually didn't know that, thank you for saying so! im gonna google the difference between them so i don't accidentally use the wrong one in the wrong situation :))
@@kingdice6023 This may not be correct bc ✨internet✨ but this is a small explanation I found OCD are the obsessions and compulsions. A person with OCPD will have some rigid behaviors, but they will not engage in the overwhelming need for repetition linked to OCD compulsions. Another basis for determining OCD vs. OCPD is the level of insight and self-awareness.
@@xxxdeadasfxck One thing to add would be that people with OCD have compulsions to an extent that annoys even them, and they'll know that it is a problem, while someone with OCPD will have less severe compulsions that they see as normal. That's why it's called a personality disorder, because their obsession is just part of their personality.
@@japanpanda2179 Thank you!! Like I said I got that from the internet so Im obviously not educated on the topic and what I said shouldnt be taken word for word, so having someone correct me/add onto that helps a lot.
8) if you are making a mentally unstable character give them actual traits or represent well don't make them a stereotype or use it for clout and give them names or just don't if you won't care to do research
I think it’s fine to make a character with mental disorders, but that shouldn’t be their only personality. And don’t make that character just because of it.
As a person with DID, I wish people would understand that having DID is fucking awful you can't remember basic things about your basic life and people think your some kind of monster BECAUSE of all of the bad representation we get. Thanks for touching on this it's a real problem. Edit: everyone is so nice I can't even❤😭- indigo
I think there’s an issue with giving any mental disorder a physical form. They can manifest differently depending on the person (obviously with some trends) so when it comes to a character design it will inevitably simplify something incredibly complex.
Ye. If anything I’d make the background of the characters with sad disorder and then design them to match their personality’s and description (obviously I my research) and make sure the majority aren’t gonna be offended by the person I make
I actually enjoy doodling my depression and stuff portrayed by things such as monsters. I do at as a sort of strange coping mechanism. But doing it in a way that can be seen as mockery or something is something I will not stand for.
I don’t think anything ‘defined’ or ‘human’ looking would fit for any mental illness. Monsters are vague but sometimes they’re still not vague enough. Mental illnesses can be extremely vague yet so blunt sometimes.
I like how they just *fuel the stereotypes* of what people with certain disorders look like. Like I have OCPD and every time I tell someone that they’re like “uh no u don’t” and I’m like. Bro just because I don’t look very neat doesn’t mean I don’t have OCPD😑
I've got OCD too and I don't know how compulsions turned into being "neat". Sure, some people who have OCD can feel the urge to clean everything up but they aren't doing this because they "want to" or are "a clean and tidy" person, they are doing it because they feel like they have to. When you have OCD you feel like you have to do that one thing or something bad will happen to you or your loved ones. Even though you know it's completely stupid you still feel like you have to do it and when you don't, you obsess about it. Personally, I don't really mind these "mental disorders as drawings" things, it's just you have to look into these disorders and then draw it. You want people to feel represented after looking at these drawings and not like trash because their mental illness was based on a stereotype once again. (This is kinda random but, I hate it when people say stuff like "Oh ThAt'S gIvInG mE oCd!" Or "HaHa, AdHd MoMeNt!" I don't know it just rubs me the wrong way. Especially when these people don't even have these disorders. But hey, that's just what I think.(Also, sorry that this was long.)
@Ariella Benor dude thats literally me, anyone can have the "tap the middle or my parents are ded" but you obsess over the idea to the point it actually becomes annoying
Can you explain why and when it started being called a personality disorder or if it's actually somehow different to ocd and how because I have ocd and am extremely confused
@Ariella Benor it's not always a repetitive motion, it's a repetitive behaviour that your mind connects to the intrusive thought you're scared of as a way to ensure that it won't happen, so I have to obsessively check all the fresh fruit and vegetables I eat for even tiny imperfections which I then have to either cut off or literally just not eat the food because my intrusive thoughts are telling me it's full of bugs, horrible worms and parasites and spiders and maggots and I can only cleanse it and make sure it's safe by being extremely picky about it and pulling bits off and obsessively washing it and it's led to me just not being able to eat a lot of food because it's just too difficult and energy consuming to go through that whole process every time. My compulsion makes some kind of logical sense in response to the intrusive thought, no one wants to eat bugs and checking there are no bugs is a good way to prevent that, it's just that my anxiety about it is way too high, what I think will happen if I eat the bugs is way worse than what would actually happen even if I did eat bugs, I think I am way more likely to eat bugs than I actually am, and I am way too picky about what constitutes clean, bug free food because a leaf with one tiny hole and no other imperfections or dirt on it is not going to have bugs in it but my brain tells me it does.
As someone with OCD, Autism, and ADHD, I have to say that this entire account made me cry in frustration, my suffering was used for clout and I’m pissed off about it.
I had autism (and hopefully not munßausen syndrome) and i agree. Being autistic doesn't mean quirky cute and cool. its just torture. These tiktok r3t4rds thought that by being quirky, they would got famous and friends. What a dark timeline to live in Edit: NO I DO NOT IM FINALLY FREE!!!!!! IM NOT AUTISTIC AND DIAGNOSED OFFICIALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck what a munchaeusen narcissist i was. But the therapist told me i have a decent chance of having inattentiveness oh shit
I have autism and adhd! So I didn’t feel very attacked but just knowing that if my disorders were up there is bone chilling. I’m pretty sure it would be a stereotypical little 5 year old shy uwu boy and a obnoxious loud school troublemaker young boy but seeing all these disorders make me so fucking mad don’t turn disorders into people turn people into people having disorders and make sure to represent it right :’( like this is really sad I feel bad that OCD is up there because you have it and all the other disorders make me feel so bad for the people who have it! It’s so rude! It honestly makes me want to cry and give anyone who has these illnesses and whoever saw this some hugs! And shipping disorders literally downplay the severity of the disorders! Like ship people with the disorders and make sure you represent them right!
@@justinkianaalfredo6843 I know right it honestly angers me so much! And when they Also use other disorders like DID! And OCD! Or so many other disorders Or they flex that they’re in a “asylum” I also hate how they completely ruin grammar! Pronouns are completely fine but when they start making their pronouns nouns! It makes me angry cause I’m apart of lgbtq+ and also I hate it when they stereotype disorders and pretend they have them by doing that! I could go on forever of what they do! It’s so offensive finally when they collect disorders like Pokémon cards is the worst! It’s okay to self diagnose and suspect because diagnosis are expensive! But be accurate and accurately research it!
@@barrysteakfriessimp_real i saw someone whitewash a poc character and told people to die then said they were just trolling and that the videos were jokes..
It made me so mad. My ex had npd and she did not represent herself as above all at all. She was very timid and self conscious but manipulated me into investing more in her because of that. Her manipulating me was wrong but it’s not her fault she has this disorder, and I feel bad that she has to constantly make herself seem inferior to get what she wants, but whatevs I guess
@@amexicanfox4384 I’m sorry about your ex and I’m sorry you had to go through that. I do want to say thank you though for being understanding and considerate towards your ex instead of being a full on raging storm towards them I can only understand surface level of how hard it is to deal with a person who has that disorder and many people fail to look at in the light you that you do so thank you for that.
for reaaaaal. like, there may be narcissists that think theyre better than others, but theres those who are insecure and pretend theyre better and look for attention 💀💀💀
Cant wait till they do maladaptive daydreaming! They’ll probably depict it as some sort of dreamy imaginative UwU girl. Nah man. I’m caught In an endless cycle of either being literally almost to the point of physically unable to get out of my own head, getting EXTREMELY frustrated all the time, “daydreaming” to the point that I feel uncomfortably disconnected from reality, painful disassociation, panic attacks, and EXTREMELY exaggerated emotions over the smallest things. Nah. I’m not “imaginative”. I’m caught in 2 different realities at once and I can’t escape.
Omg same, and it's very hard to tell people about it cause I just get the same "well just stop" or "do something to get your mind off it." I CAN'T! IF I COULD I WOULD! 99% of the time I don't even realize I'm doing it until someone snaps me back. It has caused me to take way longer on work and is a huge hindrance on life. If I EVER see someone depict it horribly like that artist, I WILL go apeshit.
do you have to see a professional for maladaptive daydreaming? i have some concerns about it. this is the second time someone with maladaptive daydreaming say something that i can relate to 1000%. i just....do i have that? i dont think i do but
@@cultusfetus if it causes you distress and negatively affects your day to day life, then yes (though, there are cases where you may not recognize that it's hurting u) im speaking for mental illness as a whole, i dont know enough about maladaptive daydreaming yet to say anything about it
Wait i actully never heard of this disorder, it sounds a little like stuff i deal with but can't pur into words... can i maybe get a little more description about it if you are willing to?
As someone with histrionic personality disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder, this is actually gross. The hypersexualization of people with hpd is something I completely loathe, because it’s not something I like about myself. I hate my intrusive sexual thoughts and the fact that I feel like my body determines my worth. It’s so demeaning to reinforce the idea that we’re all just slutty, that all we want is to get into someone’s pants
*sees that the only black character is Dependent Personality Disorder* Uh Oh (Edit: it has also occurred to me that the highly sexualized Histrionic Personality Disorder is vaguely tan, which isn’t better)
I have OCD and Anxiety and when I was like, ten, that manifested as massive germophobia. Like, debilitating fear at all hours. The OCD manifested as obsessive hand washing and not swallowing saliva and/or food or drink because I was sure I had just consumed something deadly in some form and I would die if I didn’t hold it in. The stereotype is not only a bad representation, as OCD can be very different for everyone who has it, especially when combined with other mental disorders, but genuinely offensive to me. This person took my YEARS of petrifying anxiety and tears and suffering, took the YEARS of pain felt by others with OCD, and compressed it into a stereotypical nerdy perfectionist. I don’t usually say things like this, but how dare you. How dare you diminish one of the hardest points in my life. How dare you make fun of the most broken years of my childhood.
I feel your pain. I also have OCD but my symptoms manifested differently. In my childhood, I had this fixation with my handwriting. I would write and erase the same letters over and over compulsively, intil I ripped through the paper. I’d chew through my pencils and have meltdowns from the stress. in middle school, my fixation moved to my hair. I gelled my hair back or wore hoodies, and if I was forced to take down my hair or my hoodie, I’d have full blown anxiety. It’s awful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. This shit also pisses me off. It’s like when neurotypical people go “oh I’m so OCD, I need things to be symmetrical!” shut up, no you don’t. you won’t have a fucking meltdown over a small object out of place. OCD is a serious condition that makes simple tasks impossible. It’s debilitating.
Ikr this was very offensive to me too. As someone who have multiple mental disorders seeing this stereotypes just pains me. OCD is really not what some people think it is it’s different for everyone.
Oh crap, I used to do the same exact same thing. If I thought that I had touched something that could possibly, somehow be poisonous or potentially make me sick or something and if my hands touched my lips or face, I would hold my saliva in mouth and not swallow it. Then I would go home and wash my face, mouth and hands. It was really bad for me when I was younger.
It actually disgusts me the way the discord was talking about DID. As someone with DID, them saying that the DID character is “18 abuse victims in a trench coat” makes me want to cry. I hate this sm
We would ironically use the phrase as a personal joke with our Partner System, but actually meaning it? No fucking way. That's hurtful as fuck, coming from a fellow System.
@@Alisibeth_Talia212 Hi! I'm a bit curious about what a partner system is. I've been researching DID and other mental disorders for a while now because I would like to be a psychiatrist in the future, you don't have to answer if you don't want to! Stay safe :D
5:46 BPD actually stands for Borderline Personality Disorder. Bipolar is not a personality disorder, it’s a mood disorder. The shortened form of Bipolar Disorder is just BD. The two disorders can (emphasis on can, because both disorders have a spectrum.) share some symptoms, but they aren’t the same. Also, Bipolar can be medicated more effectively than BPD.
You know, I remember seeing an artist before where they took these disorders and turned them into different character much like this artist that I felt like (personally dealing with some of the mental illnesses) they had portrayed pretty well. They didnt draw them as some uwu girls and cute guys, they drew them as being these monstrous almost leach like that would latch on to people and cause them to struggle greatly. Like their depression one, they had drawn depression as this inky leach that weighed down the person and in turn caused that person to suffer (even drawing the person it was attached to look incredibly skinny and frail) As someone dealing with depression, that is exactly what it felt, a leach that seemingly sucks the life out of you. Comparing that art to this artist? It's almost insulting that one artist could do a pretty good job depicting the illnesses that make people suffer while the other just draws them in this cutesy "look how quirky they are" type of way.
My mum struggles with mental health and paranoia. This person shouldn’t find it cute. My mum and I have had to sleep in the car for several nights (she refused to sleep) because she thought someone was in our house trying to kill her. She’s shot a gun in the house once. It’s really serious and pisses me off.
I'm sorry... my mother used to do crazy things too, though not due to a mental disorder. They put her on an antidepressant for migraines, and we found out later (after I was on it too a while for the same thing) that we are genetically incompatible to it. That's why she'd sleepwalk to get guns and knives she'd wake up with in bed, or almost collapsed my father's chest in because she thought he was dying and started performing CPR on him in the middle of the night. She was also really physically... aggressive with me. I don't know if I could've handled knowing it was a mental disorder versus a medication she could stop. I'm sorry you dealt with that. Especially the firing the gun part, that must've been terrifying for you.
@@nachgeben it’s okay, I was 7 when the gun incident happened and I thought it was all normal until I was 10. She also did drugs which didn’t help but I live with my dad now. I’m very sorry about what happened with your mum.
You know humanity is degrading to the point where people romanticize having mental illnesses because they think it's aesthetic, but in reality it's really insulting to people who actually suffer from it
As someone with bpd, I would've actually liked if she was male or gender fluid, mainly because the stereotypical person with borderline is a woman who 'is bat shot crazy' they could've just given her colored hair without making her look like the stereotype of being edgy :// I think if the person who made this, they could've made a comic abt THEIR mental disorders or illnesses and how they 'interact' or if they still did this, with the same concept I'd hope they would add in borderline splitting, crying in a fit ect. If she did capitalize off this, I'd hope she would donate at least 5% to mental health help.
i agree, i think it would've been less problematic if they looked like normal people who just happened to have the disorders, instead of a stereotypical embodiment of them
The mental illnesses being personified is actually a popular idea - but as you say, they are often drawn as a way for an artist to express *their* feelings and struggles with those illnesses in a way that makes it clearer to the audience, not as a way to stereotype illnesses.
I’ve been diagnosed with bpd recently (by my psychologist not self diagnosed) i actually don’t know what the difference between bpd and bipolar sorry if I’m being offensive I just want to be more educated T-T
Thank you!! Was just about to comment this because none of the top comments mentioned it. It came from a good place so I’m not gonna get upset with them. So many people don’t understand the difference between bipolar and bpd and it stings sometimes 🥲 would be nice if they could maybe correct it and pin it in the comments so misinformation isn’t spread unintentionally
@@Palestizi i agreee.. it does sting tbh.. especialy since ppl like to dismiss BPD as just depression or just bipolar but different name or whatever.. and since we hve it from being invalidated and dismissed and abandoned from childhood, it do be stingin :"3
As some one who has bpd it is rough being stereotyped. So when I told my friend about my disorder they told me that they don’t have it yet when they see a frog it brights her day so much. She means so much to me just because she could care less that bpd she still calls me her brother.
As someone who suffers greatly with BPD, the design sickens me. Just because we struggle doesn’t mean we are alt. Just because we are different, doesn’t make us alt. Some people with BPD are alt, yes, but most just dress how they want, like me. It disgusts me more that they paint her as sassy or mean looking. Emotions are HELL to live with when you have this disorder. Sometimes you want to die because you can’t handle them or because they control every little thing you do. Being hospitalized 3 times, trying to kms 27 times, and over all being tired of my disorder has really put me in a tough spot and I am sickened by this artist. I hate twitter.
And not all alt girls have BPD, either. The amount of times I as a girl with dyed hair have been asked if i have BPD (I don’t) is genuinely disgusting (it’s always asked by men who JUST met me btw, I actually have ADHD, another illness that’s stigmatized but not in the same way as BPD). It’s almost like people suffering with a mental illness don’t have a specific look and just because someone has a style that is common stigmatized as being associated with a personality disorder does not mean that person has that disorder. Another common stigma that people seem to have is that only women can have BPD but that’s 100% not true, BPD is caused by experiencing severe trauma in childhood and can happen to anyone of any gender. It’s also treatable and manageable with medication and therapy and people have different levels of intensity with their emotions. People shouldn’t have to defend themselves against people who stigmatize their illness.
@@opheliasgh0st while i do agree that men can absolutely get bpd too, unfortunately, women are significantly more susceptible to traumatic events by just being a women (if you know you know), or that they are more emotional. This is coming from a women with severe BPD that was undiagnosed until my long term bf broke up with me because he couldn't handle my heightened emotions causing me to go down a long spiral because of "fear of abandonment." The person who made this comment talking about getting hospitalized for attempting stuck with me. It sucks I can't hold friendships unless I keep my distance. I have no friends or bf or family. I hate being alone.
when therapists tell us to personify our mental health issues, they do NOT mean it like this (side note: personifying mental illnesses is common in therapy MAINLY to personify the disorder as a small little bug that can be crushed OR to depict the disorder in a way that’s accurate to how it feels. Don’t give mental health issues personalities)
oh boy I’d be scared to see what they’d do with ADHD. Quirky “oh so raaaandom!” girl? Boy who “can’t stop bouncing off the walls?” Bet no one would notice there are different types. Inattentive-type is what I have, and I know tons of people who experience even that TYPE differently. So yeah. This is a mess and I hate it. Shoutout to “why is she black” because I’m black and I’m salty about that post in their discord. -_-
I’ve met and have been friends with many people with ADHD and they litteraly act like everyone else, like yeah sometimes they need to fidget or walk around because ADHD causes them to be more hyper and have a lot of adrenaline compared to others without ADHD, but like…. Since when does hyper=quirky ??? Lmao
I think I should quickly clarify: SPD is Schizoid Personality Disorder, not Sensory Processing Disorder, as they are all meant to represent the PDs. Similarly, OCPD is not the same as OCD, for any of those wondering, though it's not uncommon for them to be comorbidities. That aside, great video!
@@dillsreaper Yep, you'd be correct! I just wasn't worried about pointing that one out, as the creator had already corrected that mistake in her pinned comment. Thank you, though!
please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't sensory processing disorder also called SPD, or is there another abbreviation for it? just curious cause I have sensory processing disorder, and I dont want to accidentally mislabel myself if I'm describing it to someone :))
@@wrenc8672 You're right, Sensory Processing Disorder is also known as SPD. It's one of those things where two conditions can have the same abbreviation, which is why Schizoid Personality Disorder is sometimes shortened to SzPD instead, to help avoid the confusion. I also have sensory processing disorder due to my Autism, so I understand the concern! You wouldn't be mislabeling yourself :)
As someone with severe anxiety I constantly get stereotyped as the “UwU,quirky character🥺” so I really feel for the people that were horribly represented in these drawings. If you’re reading this and have one of these mental illnesses, you’re valid and I’m so sorry for this mess
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the stereotype comes from people faking the disorder, which I think is beyond disgusting. I mean, I might be wrong though, my bad if I am.
@@joseph4495 That's the thing: A lot of this comes from wanting to poke at the ones who diagnosed themselves because they think it's cool and special to have these disorders. It's like how all these kids claiming to have DID and be streamers were advertising themselves on Twitter using Dream. DID is so rare, I guarantee they self-diagnosed to, at first, make excuses for acting like different people to have fun, and then they became convinced they have it. EVERYONE dissociates. Everyone. Dissociation and DID are two very different things. You with your friends vs you with your family = dissociation. You behave like two sides of the same coin, representing yourself differently in different scenarios, hiding away parts of yourself and bringing parts of yourself forward in situation A that's different from situation B. That doesn't mean you have DID. That is a healthy level of everyday dissociation, and acting like that means you have DID not only makes you a moron, but disrespects the people who have it since it's born from severe trauma.
Same. I got diagnosed with like, 4 different anxiety disorders plus ADD and depression. It’s not a personality, it’s not fun. It’s not fuckin fun at all, it sucks and it’s crippling. I’m sorry you also suffer through anxiety, I hope you’re doing alright 💙
@@nachgeben I'd also like to mention that there's another disorder which overlaps with DID! The overall name is OSDD but the specific overlap is OSDD-1 (here's a video about OSDD-1b: ruclips.net/video/griq0tZUmQU/видео.html ) and self-diagnosis is actually pretty important in most cases as it's the first step to an actual diagnosis, if one is possible at all... It's just extremely irritating and unfortunate that there are people who abuse self-diagnosing because they think having a mental illness is "quirky!" and "fun!", especially when they're taking something as serious and difficult as DID to be that "cool and quirky" thing. Personally, as someone who has been diagnosed with BPD traits and (mostly before medication) has suffered from severe suicidal ideation and the urge to "punish" myself... It's sad and frustrating that there are kids (more often than not) who want to seem "cool" and feel as though faking a mental illness will make them cool... I only say this because I have a friend who absolutely has OSDD-1 in some regard as the alters in her system are very obviously separate people, they each have distinct typing patterns, speech patterns etc and there's even a non-human alter in the system who expresses animalistic behaviours. But she's too anxious about going to a professional to be diagnosed due to fear of her parents treating her differently or being mistreated by the medical professional who would talk to her about it. I on the other hand believe I may express symptoms of ADD and/or autism due to my struggles with communicating, expressing my tone, struggling to tell other people's tones and a very, very short attention span (which is worse than my girlfirend's who has diagnosed ADHD) paired with struggling to stay on task when not fully engaged with a subject. However, I don't know whether I have either neurodivergencies and so I make it explicitly apparent that I only know that I experience symptoms while I'm on the 3 or so year waiting list to be diagnosed. But I think that's where the importance in expressing whether you're self-diagnosed or not matters, because even if/when you go to a professional to be tested and diagnosed and you end up not being entirely right, they'll likely point you to another possibility. I was only diagnosed with BPD traits last year because it'd previously been mistaken for depression but I also experienced very, very brief manic periods and short periods of severe depression, but, because I recognised those as potential traits of a Bipolar Personality Disorder, this diagnosis was re-evaluated by a psychiatrist who instead recognised them as traits of BPD, even though I did not fit the full personality disorder. This diagnosis lead to me being prescribed mood stabilisers and the stabilisers have effectively stopped all those traits for expressing almost at all which is a huge improvement from the nothing that anti-depressants did... My point is that self-diagnosing itself isn't the issue, because it can be a very important thing when used correctly, the issue itself is children/teens being immature and not recognising the harm they are doing... So, I personally think that self-diagnosing should be destigmatised but looking into being diagnosed being very encouraged to those who have self-diagnosed, because telling someone that they definitely don't have that mental illness can cause a lot of issues surrounding them actually seeking help for the symptoms they do experience... I mean no disrespect or anything of course, I'm just trying to share my thoughts and experiences too, and I certainly am not trying to tell anyone that it's wrong for them to be frustrated, because I really do understand it. Have a nice day and I hope you're taking care of yourself
@The Flying Kalamari unfortunately I am not. You can see at 12:48 the screenshot onscreen shows a bunch of roles that someone in the discord has, and one of their roles is in fact "Non-Neurotypical". Yyyyeah. I really wish I had the words to explain why exactly that grosses me out so much and makes me so uncomfortable, but unfortunately I do not. All I can say is that it is such a shitty choice of words. And tbh, from watching this video, I can assume that choice was very much intentional.
it sucks because not only is it super vague (theres a big difference between autism and schizophrenia) it also centers our neurodivergency around neurotypicals. i am not 'non neurotypical' im autistic and my life as an autistic person doesnt revolve around allistic peoples
I'm just glad they didn't do ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). Not only is it SUPER vast in severity and symptoms (I'm personally pretty high functioning, but even then I have severe anxiety symptoms and hyperfixations), but it's already super stigmatized. Believe me, we don't need Autism Speaks 2.0. Edit: So, I figured I should change some of my vocabulary, because I didn't realize that low/high functioning were terms that a lot of autistic people hate, and I have only recently decided to change my language. So yea, I'm low needs, not high functioning.
asd is a learning/developmental disorder, they're just drawing personality disorders. also I'm 100% sure the dudes from this blog just googled "mental disorder" and i doubt they know shit like ASD and tourettes are disorders as well lol
data ASD is not a learning disorder, it is a neurodevelopmental disorder. That means it is a structural thing in the brain. Also SPD or sensory processing disorder frequently occurs alongside autism? It’s also common for us to be diagnosed with other mental disorders.
@@fabplays6559 yep, its especially hard when 1) you're a girl, and people think asd is a male thing and 2) youre a teen or adult who has learned to mask, and therefore, hard to diagnose... At least in my experience
Good they didn’t do DID, could just imagine them portraying an alter as a crazy murderer 😬… Edit: OMG WTFFF??? I JUST SAW THE DISCORD MESSAGE OF THEM MAKING A DID CHARACTER IDEA WTH 🤦 (timestamp: 11:45 ish)
I actually sort of liked the BPD design, though if it wasn’t associated to a disorder it would actually be okay. If it was just an original character it would be fine-
I agree with you! they wouldve been better off as original characters. they had amazing designs esp the "bpd" one imo. it's horrible how they dumbed down complicated pds to stereotypical characters who are created with the intention of "representing" them. they used their talent on this. what a waste of time and talent :/
That's the thing, they all actually have simple but pretty interesting design tbh. If they were named w actual names instead of illnesses, and not stupidly stereotypical it wouldn't be a problem
Person with ocd here. Severe ocd is debilitating. It is NOT limited to being clean or organized, it can be but that can be a symptom. It usually stems off of intrusive thoughts and is an anxiety disorder. The ships in here are funny as hell though
I'm not defending them, but isn't OCPD different from OCD? I have moderate to severe OCD, and at some point I thought that I may have OCPD, but I didn't because I didn't fit the criteria.
Bro i have ocd and before I wasn't in a good place with it and couldn't be very organized because of how horrible it was, I totally get where your coming from lol
I think a good characterization of mental disorders is the monster representation. They are more like creatures and it focuses on the disorder and how it affects people and not the stereotype of the people with it. I think everybody should look at them. Iys beautiful art and even more beautiful descriptions.
I was thinking of drawing some disorders as monsters and maybe some disorders as humanoids like autism since autism doesn't really affect me negatively. (Like if I made autism as a character, it would represent how I experience it, like my not-so-obvious side of the spectrum)
Yeah, obviously not all pf them would be monsters, but making them non humanoids would work alot better. For 1, it wouldnt be a stereotype and secondly, it wouldnt imply that disorders are just someones personality, because they arent
I think it can be hit or miss. like for example id hate if someone took asd and made it some demon monster, cause no, asd is me, its made me, and im not gonna let it be demonized.
People with OCD in media: everything in my house is clean and all of my books are stacked perfectly in a row and I am incredibly successful Me, a person with OCD: I brushed my teeth until I bled this morning and missed the bus.
same, except instead of my teeth I cannot function if my hair part isn’t straight (the rest can be a tangled, oily mess idc) this is not helped by the fact that I have lost literal hours pulling out my hairs one by one despite repeatedly telling myself “ok I really need to stop now or else I’ll be bald and sleep-deprived” the elder gods have a cruel sense of humor apparently
Me with OCD: I refuse to clean anything ever because I can't touch the gross thing and also I think the universe is out to get me even though I logically know that's not true
Probably 60% of americans bleed when they brush their teeth. Apparently it's actually a good thing and means the gums are healing, it's only abnormal if they're still bleeding after 9+ months of daily brushing.
As someone with BPD them stereotyping us as egirls with black and white hair is offensive. I am alternative (Goth) but not because i'm unstable, Goth is a music based subculture but no. They assumed we were racists and edgelords 🙃 I'm a delinquent but that's about it. I also have DID and I'm really glad she didn't. she would have rue that day
It also sucks because borderline stereotypes go even passed edgelord. People keep categorizing it as "Psycho Bitch Disorder" and that shit is so isolating.
Same. Im not goth, ive learned how to stay optimistic and positive on the outside but on the inside ofc bpd is still rough but ppl cope with things so differently.
BPD doesn't mean bipolar. Or it doesn't mean just being bipolar, to word it better. BPD means Borderline personality disorder. Indeed, Borderliners do often experience bipolar symptoms, among a lot of other symptoms and problems that effect our life in many ways. Bipolar is basically just the new word for manic depressive. It isn't a personality disorder. It's a symptom or a mental illness.
Bipolar disorder is a bit more expansive than just maniac depressive thus why the name change. It can present in a few different ways (I have type 2 and don’t experience manic episodes the same way type 1 does), but is characterized as an inability to regulate emotions with emotional extremes (depression and hyper/hypo mania) lasting for days or weeks at a time. Impulsive behaviors are more likely at these times as we are trying to either end the depressive state as quickly as possible or ride out the high of the hyper/hypo mania for as long as possible. There’s a genetic component, a trauma component, and maybe a chemical component to bipolar, but science has not quite identified the cause. I just wanted to clear things up since I’ve had issues with family painting their own mental picture of what my disorder should look like when they think of it as renamed manic depressive disorder.
@@indiecrowarts I knew that much I was not trying to put to much detail into a comment critiquing the phrase "Bipolar is basically just a new word for manic depressive" as I found it a bit reductive to what bipolar actually is. Glad to meet another bipolar though!
BPD and Bipolar II are quite similar, one of the big differences is that Bipolar II is episodic. It can be short episodes though, which adds to the confusion between them. Another difference is that medication is less effective with BPD than with Bipolar II. But yeah, I agree with you. BPD isn't Bipolar and Bipolar isn't BPD.
i noticed on the tags that there was one that said “bpd kinnie” and while people using this tag may actually have bpd themselves, a mental disorder is not something you can just kin. you may see a character in a show or in a book that has bpd and say “hey i relate to some of these things that they’re going through and i can see myself in them as a character” and kin them, sure! that seems fine to me (if you disagree feel free to tell me, i’m always up for learning a bit more). but in a situation like this where the character is literally the (wildly inaccurate) personification of a disorder that is incredibly hard to deal with and makes thing hard for a lot of people with the disorder, it’s really gross that you can “kin” them.
I didn't notice that but that's just...gross. Especially since BPD is already made a joke enough as is and we don't need people acting like it's possible to "kin" our hardships.
Idk if I misunderstood on what youre were trying to say but as someone who suffers from BPD I just want to say that my BPD has a name, I sometimes refer to it in third person and see it as a somewhat "second personality". Dont get me wrong. I dont do this to not take responsibilities for my actions or anything like that but most of the time I get amnesia after my STRONG "bpd attacks" (idk if theres a name for this :-:) and if necessary my partner explains to me what my BPD did and said and explaining to my partner that I didnt really meant what I was saying just gets a bit easier. We sometimes bully my BPD like an actual person I despite. It takes away its power and gives it back to me. Im an artist myself and I think I could design a character based on my BPD but it wouldnt be a "oh thats BPD thing" but more of a "thats MY BPD thing" if Im making any sense here :-:
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 i think at first it was people who genuinely believed they were fictional characters but then it became just kinning whatever character you like
As someone with BPD is fricking sucks. Personally I feel very angry all the time when the real emotion is sadness. I feel like everyone is and is going to abandoned me.
About the anxiety one, It's probably rooted in racism, because of course the Black character is dependent and needs help And the last one is extra gross because the character is asian coded, and those things you said, people tell to a lot of asians. That they follow rules strictly and what not, It's not a good look with the #StopAsianHate going on
The BPD girl is actually really cute! It’s extremely sad that she, and the others, are being used in an act of ableism. This makes me very upset. (And he does look like Quackity)
The idiot who made this video quoted BPD the wrong way. It’s Borderline Personality Disorder, not Bipolar Disorder. How can you all so blindly follow this creator’s video when they don’t even know what the eff they’re even saying?!
I mean... making characters with mental illness if done properly is great, I do it myself with characters who stuggle with the same disorder or illnesses as myself. But I keep most of that to myself as comfort or don't have it as a focus if I share it publicly for awareness and because I like exploring these subjects because that's only a small part of what we are even if it takes over most of our lives. I'm not even that angry anymore. Just disappointed that we didn't leave these things back on Tumblr and seemingly haven't developed much in that regard. It doesn't even make me sad anymore, I can't bother with these people, I got enough issues as it is.
I have a character with PTSD for backstory reasons and then a character with ADHD because I think it fits for the character, I don't have either one (at least not diagnosed) but I made sure to do as much research as I could to make it make sense and actually accurate
the thing is, if the characters weren't about mental illnesses, then they would be great oc's, for maybe like, a story or something, i just find it disgusting that they would stereotype and s£xual!ze mental illnesses :/
I thought this was just a small young artist who is ignorance with mental illness but holy damn, these people are sick. I have GAD (generalize anxiety disorder) and MDD (major depressive disorder), and I have people say I don't look like i'm depressed due to the way I dress(I wear colorful clothes) and act (I'm quite talkative). They usually see me in my good day and therefore sometimes they think I'm faking it. People with depression can have good day. We don't always act like a character from my chemical romance song.
I also has MDD. We're not really "dark and mysterious" or "edgy", we're just people with chemical imbalances. I can still feel joy and have fun despite still having it. Sadly, not everyone knows this and thinks I'm "cured" when I'm just having a good day.
I have depression too, and people fucking tell me that I do not have depression because I smile and laugh, and (I kid you not) bc I dont have scars on my body. BRO????
I feel horrible for the ari in the screenshots at 13:59, I hope she decided not to k!ll herself, and got help at that mental hospital, she might not have known what the work would do. wishing her a healthy life if she’s still alive ❤️
I love it when people make things like plushies or personifications of their problems. I myself have an oc named the "Borderline Bunny" and adore making stuffies representing my various other issues (anxiety, ocd, depression, neurodivergencies). But when it becomes. Commercial. Surface level. Stereotypical. Meaningless. It just. It comes off as so weird. If you don't have that disorder, that's just so fucking weird.
I second that. Personifying your own problems is a great way to heal.I illustrate my MDD with a "brain bug" and it makes me feel better because I imagine squashing it. Personifying other people's problems, however just perpetuates them.
Ocd isn't actually all about the compulsions, it's also about the obsessions, (hence the name obsessive compulsive disorder) basically most people with ocd don't always organize things or do repetitive actions just because it "feels right", there is an obsession behind that so you do those compulsions to put your mind at ease for little while. One of my compulsions was to tap five times with my fingers whenever I got the urge. That might not seem so destructive at first, but the reason I was tapping was because ocd was telling me that if I didn't, my family would be in danger. I was obsessed with the the thought and fear of my family dying, so I had to do a compulsion or ritual to make it go away. Now any normal person would know that tapping your fingers does not guarantee something like protection. It just doesn't make sense. People with ocd also know that. Some can accept it more than others but we all know that. However we get stuck in the 'better safe than sorry' mentality cause it's just tapping right?? But every time you give in to compulsions, it strengthens ocds hold on you, which makes it harder to stop the next time. And if your ocd happens to get triggered by a situation out of your control, you could have a breakdown in which the compulsions out tenfold and you just can't stop, it's too strong. I've seen people with contamination ocd (obsessed with the thought of being contaminated by outside or inside forces) break down and take the skin off their hands and forearms because they just kept scrubbing it. I've seen people with trichotillomania (picking of the body, a lot of people with ocd have this as a compulsion) who have big bald spots on their head or eyebrows and people whose faces are scared from excessive picking. Sure there are people who want everything to be clean and perfect, but there's also people with ocd that can't stand things like that. There are people with hoarding ocd who's houses are absolutely disgusting from all the junk that they hold onto. It's really a demon and not at all like people perceive it. It's not about making things look a certain way or being super clean just for the hell of it. It stems from hellish fears and thoughts. "What if I get infected with sepsis, I don't want to die like that" "what if I fall asleep and when I wake up my family is dead, and I'm the one who killed them" it's really hard and shouldn't be reduced down to these kinds of stereotypes
Oh jeez. I’ve found it harder and harder to hide the bald spots on my scalp and eyebrows lately. I had no idea there was a word for it. (I’m not professionally diagnosed with OCD yet, but it runs in my family and I have had all the symptoms since at least first grade.)
Yeah, my compulsions are super weird and nothing to do with organization One example is I habitually cover the vent in my bathroom because you can kind of see the basement through it, and that makes me nervous even if nobody is in the basement, I just feel more comfortable covering it (I know it's weird AF, but it's a ocd related compulsion I have) The common misconception that it's always about organization and cleanliness almost made me think the psychologists got my diagnosis wrong Until I learned more about it
I really appreciate people like you who are willing to do things like this just to inforn others because that way they can understand it. I don't normally talk about my opinion until I know the full story of things so you saying this helped a lot! Also I didn't know that it was an obsessive things that dosent revolve around one thing this actually showed me a really interesting fact.
Hey just a heads up, OCD and OCPD are suuuper different disorders. OCPD, despite the name, actually doesn’t really consist of obsessions and compulsions like OCD. The presentation of OCPD is closer to the popular portrayal of “OCD”, in which people are exceptionally neat, rigid, and NEED things to be done a certain way. (Lining up all the pencils in color order, etc) But you’re absolutely right: OCD and OCPD are conflated way too often and OCD has taken on a popular portrayal that in no way describes the people who actually have it.
Why is DPD the only character of colour? I wouldn’t have an issue with it if DPD wasn’t stereotyped to not be able to function without others help, it’s just kinda rubs me the wrong way that this disorder is the one they picked to be the only person of colour.
Same way I feel with the Asian guy with OCD…it’s so stereotypical of Asians to be “tidy neat UwU” I’ve failed math and Chinese my whole life and only got better these few years , rubs me weirdly
My BPD and NPD had ruined my relationships with many a partner, colleagues, and damn near ruined it with my parents. I’m not a sexy E girl in any way, nor am I a cocky bastard. I am so incredibly heart broken because of this. The blatant disregard of feelings for clout is so stupid
As someone with an oc that has PTSD and many other mental issues, this makes me...uncomfortable. I take a lot of care and consideration into making him, since I'm a trauma survivor as well. Watching people make such mental illnesses so sexualized is really off to me. It's one thing to make an oc with a mental disability and make it actually work; and another to just do it because it's popular. A lot of tropes seem to make depression and trauma seem like it all goes away after they get a significant other or a stable friend group. It's not true, as you can never recover from these things unless the person themself tries to.
I agree. Two out of four of my main OC's are on the autism spectrum (the other two are more or less on the line), but only because they're partial self-inserts and I have the disorder as well. I can speak for myself and these characters, and to an extent I can speak for the disorder as well, but everyone with autism is different and I can only speak for the experiences I myself have had. Seeing this account do these things and only stick to the stereotypes in full personifications of the disorders, instead of just making a character and giving them the disorder or making multiple characters with different symptoms of the same disorder (i.e. my first OC only really has two main stims, is pretty social, and doesn't have much in terms of sensory issues, while the other has at least five main stims, relatively bad sound-based sensory issues, and literally lives almost a full day's worth of travel away from most of society so she doesn't have to deal with people every day and can just focus on her animals), it just makes me angry. Honestly, just wait until this account makes an autism character that is prone to outbursts, antisocial, always using stim toys and comfort objects like chew necklaces and headphones, and so many other stereotypical things and passes it off as 'lOoK guYS, theY'RE AutISTIC, They havE ThIs mentAl DISorDEr' (even though autism is a neurological disorder, not a mental one)
Did you have to make it about a fictional character with no feelings or emotions that you created when you could've easily talked about yourself as a trauma survivor?
@@stephenm8415 You do realize that I have a choice in what I say about myself, correct? I'd rather not talk about my past trauma, besides, that's not the point of this video.
@@stephenm8415 well that's just rude. OP has no obligation to talk about their trauma in the comment section of a random youtube video, and if they don't want to do so, they don't have to. And besides, the video was literally _about_ original fictional characters, OP talking about their own trauma wouldn't have even been relevant to the video. The only reason they even brought up their own PTSD is because they wanted to make it clear that they actually know what they're doing with their OC. Please read the room and think about why OP would've said what they said before you just start making assumptions and accusations
@@irishuisman1450 Your point makes it out that these characters are offensive because other fictional characters have illnesses such as these and the stereotypes hurt and demean the issues of those other fictional characters.
Ok so this definitely is bad. Probably not the best thing to portray disorders that are already stereotyped in a stereotypical way. Although, I do think I can be done with class in certain cases. Like, I have drawn personifications of my own disorders as a way to represent things and put my experiences into art, but I’m not going to act as if my characters are applicable to every single person who also has my disorders. Overall, it’s great that you called them out. But I would like to note, neurodivergent is usually only used for people who have developmental disorders (Autism, ADHD, Dyslexia, etc.). Just trying to make sure you understand since you said you’d like to be corrected if you’re wrong. But like I said before, great video! :D
I have a personification of what my anxiety and MPD is like, and obviously it's very different for others. I just like coming up with designs for them and now they kinda became my babies. (My profile pic was a Picrew of the MPD personification I made.)
I'm autistic myself and I tried it in high school out of boredom. It was cringey and bad, but I tried. Honestly this makes me feel like trying again and see if I can do it better than the people in this video did.
i agree as well i have adhd autism and am on a diagnosis waiting list for ocd i personify pretty much everything (it’s a semi common thing in people with autism) so it makes sense that i can see my disability’s and disorders as people (it’s basically how i see and explain to myself how my disorders interact with themselves and each other) i have drawn them and i have shown them to a few people (but i always make sure to make it clear that this it’s my view of my own experiences or my disorders and that it’s different for everyone) i can only really see my disorders as people but occasionally i can see others (mostly ones i know or have similar experiences to) my brain has also assigned colours to each disorder (like autism is royal blue, adhd is yellow , people pleaser syndrome is white/off white and ocd is cream)
It sucks that someone so talented artistically could personify disorders that people genuinely struggle with. This is straight up abelism and my heart goes out to all the people who struggle everyday only for their disorder to be turned into a cutesie relatable OC. On a side note, I only found this channel today and you're very informative, good job, and new sub :)
My hobby is art and I’m ashamed if I don’t know about something or not sure if it’s rude to talk about it when doing art then I ain’t gonna do it or do it alone without posting
What I hate is that Angie didn’t outright say she was racist and ableist. She was using it sarcastically to say “oh, what I’m doing is good.” People often use things they are called to make them look good. Which is okay in some cases. Not in Angie’s.
If I were to draw my OCD I'd draw it a bit like Crona from Soul Eater (like with a monster that beats me up constantly and tells me what to do). Mental illness can be drawn if done right. You have to understand what is happening physically and mentally though to portray it in a way that isn't offensive and represents the disorder accurately.
Yeah omg I just realized!! I know a lot of peoples says that kid have ocd but honnestly (as someone who also sadly suffers from it) to me it feels way too much like the creator just played an obsession with symetry for laugh and not in an ocd kinda way?? If that make sense?? I haven't finished the anime yet so maybe there is more to it but it looks like he just obsesses over it by appreciation and not by fear of what could be if it isn't symetrical. Crona works much more imo
I want to draw my adhd because people think of it as “quirky and crazy” when it’s a huge fight with your brain and your body to do everyday things. I also want to do one for narcolepsy because it’s a huge struggle as well and there more to it than sleeping 12 to 15 hours everyday and it not being enough.
@@yamihere5569 kid could have a type of ocd, or a minor form, but i dont think its a representation either! most likely just a gag. crona however, totally see it.
@@vesselofadam yeah he could totally have OCD tendencies that's something a lot of people get mixed up with OCD, a major thing about ocds the fact it is a disorder it disrupts your life
Spd is a form of neurodivergence. Meaning it’s something you always have once you have it and are likely born with it as it often accompanies things like adhd and asd which you are born with. Kids are more commonly diagnosed but they grow up to be adults with spd.
SPD in this context is actually referring to Schizoid Personality Disorder. I'm a schizoid, so i can give some of my insight on the disorder and the design of the character. The general symptoms are: social isolation, indifferent to praise, lack of close friends, limited range of emotions, reduced sex drive, or relationship avoidance. There's a lot more to the disorder than is listed on most mental health sites and in the DSM. The character looks as though they're wearing pajamas (the hallmark for a homebody type person), which likely stems from the stereotype that schizoids avoid social situations and tend to stay home. I find this very irritating since there's so much more than just the "quiet, stay at home" type.
However, that IS what you would see someone co-opting your disorder through self-diagnosis acting like. You aren't that, because you *actually* have it. Those who want it just to get attention because they're assholes with a whole other set of issues would embody that stereotype. That's what you should see those avatars as: mockeries of the kids who take on these disorder titles like it makes them cool. Don't take it personally, try not to feel irritated. It's not you it's making fun of, but all the people who make your life significantly harder.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I am autistic so while my own disorder wasn’t in that roster of disabilities, I’m definitely going to keep this in mind since one of my big time projects is a webcomic that will mostly be about disorders and disabilities (mostly ones that are stereotyped, misrepresented, or underrepresented to try and give more understanding of what people with disabilities have to go through) I will definitely keep your advice in mind as I go along with this project!
@@welcometothecrazytrain519 it is not uploaded yet, but I think I’m going to post it on webtoon, Wattpad, and possibly yt. The current title is “Our Story” but I’ll probably change it lol 😂
i think you could make gijinkas of mental disorders work, but the thing is, they have to be for the purpose of educating rather than romanticizing, demonizing, or mocking said disorders
I feel like it’s not a problem to really make whatever you want, so long as you don’t go sharing them online. Like I used to draw character representations of my mental disorders, and a lot of them involved a lot of the stereotypes since I didn’t really have many ideas for how to involve the nuances of the disorder, but I used drawing them as a coping mechanism and to help better understand myself. When you put them online you have to be aware of the fact that you are now contributing to the way these illnesses are viewed, there’s a responsibility you have to be held accountable for
they could draw the disorder itself, rather than a person with said disorder. kinda like how depression is charactarized as a black wolf, or anxiety as a... red wolf (wait are they all wolves?)
I don't have any of these disorders, but I do have ADHD, and the stereotypes have made my life an even bigger struggle. The idea that I'm just a "normal person" with "funny quirks" is a huge misrepresentation of how I can go a week without showering because the task change is too drastic to process
My friend has BPD and it sucks. She developed it during adulthood and it’s horrible seeing someone basically change who you know them are. Seeing them go through episodes and not being able to help fully . She’s not an egirl. She’s not some edgy girl. She’s a geeky avg dressing woman .
That’s interesting, I have it and I was lead to believe you develop it as a child/possibly born with it?? No one really knows if it’s genetic or not?? And it manifests later in life. But your comment made me search it and apparently some people can develop it as late as 30?
@coastalwaves3602 Yeah from what I've heard, BPD is usually from trauma and life events, symptoms are more common in adolescents but ofc can happen later and there's probably other things that can trigger it but it's not too clear what the whole born with as a child thing you might be getting confused with bipolar, which is caused by chemical imbalances (I think?) and genetics so technically you'd be born with it although trauma could definitely trigger it
I have BPD. I'm 26 and it has been affecting my life since childhood. It is genetic to some degree. People whose parents or siblings have BPD have a much higher chance of developing it compared to people who don't have any close relatives with the disorder. Childhood trauma plays a major role in this disorder's development too. BPD also often means a smaller amygdala and hence short quick outbursts of intense emotions, that's why it's also called emotional dysregulation disorder. BPD sucks honestly, it can be crippling. Also, BPD stands for borderline personality disorder, not bipolar.
I actually knew the Co-creator of TDSM personally back when they owned a personality disorder Discord server. The co-creator (Crescent-moon/Sam) was outed for being a pro shipper and for drawing NSFW art of under 18s. They would constantly diagnose themselves every other week with a new personality disorder depending on what they related to. It became a running joke amongst members of their server that they collect personality disorders like Pokémon. You know, it disgusts me that they contributed to stereotyping these disorders to such an extreme level considering that they owned a personality disorder server and were friends with MULTIPLE people with personality disorders. It doesn't surprise me with the type of person they are, but it doesn't stop me from being disappointed. (P.S thank you for talking about each personality disorder with a neutral approach. That does a lot for the community which constantly has stigma like this thrown at it).
BPD makes me so fucking mad. I live with BPD, and I’ve had relationships ruined because of it. I’ve lost friendships, relationships, my lasting relationships are standing on a knife edge. My depressive episodes and my emptiness is horrifying. Having it all portrayed as an UWU edgy e-girl, is disgusting,
@@mr.mistersquidspongesquare9652 i believe thats a reference to the fact that percieving the world in black and white is one of the symptoms of bpd but yeah
@@Kevin_Theadore1 unless you're listening to fortunate son as a vietnam vet i don't think you're gonna have ptsd triggered i meant getting ptsd not having it triggered
My fiance has bpd and stuff like this triggers him badly. He hates when people romanticize or make a mockery of it because he suffers and struggles everyday just to want to live with it. Especslly with how irl pwbpd are villianized alot. And even victimized. Its frustrating to see kids glorify it without basic understanding of just how hard it is to live with for the person who have it as well as the immediate people in their lives
About SPD, it’s actually very common for adults to have it as well. It’s just adults are more likely to have better coping mechanisms and have learnt to deal with it through out their life. Symptoms are less visible which means it’s less documented in adults. Saying that it’s “inaccurate” because the character was portrayed as an adult kinda hurt a little bit ngl. Why can’t people see that if you’re not kicking and screaming, the suffering and stress is still there? So many neurodivergent people are infantilised because their condition is seen as being “only for children”, when it stays with you so much longer than that.
I agree. from what I know, it actually progresses and increases as you age (unless there's a lot of therapy involved I think), I know my sensory issues have skyrocketed over the past few years
yes!! (i’m autistic but i have a lot of sensory issues so i can kinda relate)- the not kicking or screaming thing is so true, people think that, if i hear a loud noise and don’t immediately start crying and shouting that i want to get out, i’m faking it. like, not everything makes me overstimulated (especially if i can control it or asked for it, like loud music in a concert or loud music in my headphones) and i don’t have to show it if it does make me overstimulated. i keep it in most of the time anyway and don’t do shit besides stimming or smth
@@razminfox1787 yes! it's just not always as obvious, cause we grow up and learn how to cope with it and keep it from the general public, cause it isn't accepted behavior for adults
as a DID system with BPD, the person who said "DID is just and extreme version of BPD" is horrifically wrong. they're nothing alike, the ONLY similarity is the fact that both use the word "splitting" but even then, the definitions are entirely different. I genuinely want to know their thought process on how their two link together whatsoever, because DID isn't even a PD haha
@@y09 …Because it’s relevant? It was brought up in the video, and obviously someone with the literal disorder that’s being misrepresented would have something to say about it. Hence stating they have it and that they can clarify and attest to the fact that the representation in the video is incorrect and harmful.
@@y09 Dissociative disorders in general are more common than people think, but specific disorders like DID specifically is more rare. For example, dissociative amnesia (forgetting specific events, time periods, people, important information, in relation to trauma) is pretty common for trauma survivors in general, but DID effects about 1-1.5% of the population. That may not sound like a lot, but other disorders that people commonly talk about are around the same number, and DID is actually more common than other commonly spoken about disorders. For example, OCD (1%, though bare in mind diagnosis can be difficult as many people may have OCD symptoms but not realise it cos of how OCD is portrayed in media, so never seek help), 0.32-1% have schizophrenia diagnosis (number changes based on diagnostic criteria and other factors), 1% with BPD, 1% bipolar you see plenty of people discussing those mental health diagnosis' even if they're rare, and you're gonna see more of it on a video about mental illness than a regular one.
@@y09cuz they’re lying or delusional. There’s a huge community on tiktok of ppl faking DID and when someone on the internet says they have DID there’s like a 99% they’re faking it. DID is incredibly rare (some people would like you to think it isn’t but they’re using statistics and removing context, if you actually research it you’ll find out it is extremely rare) and requires extreme trauma, also the nature of the disorder is that you most likely don’t know you have it.
Considering this whole scheme comes from 4chan, it'd probably be fairly overweight in comparison with other characters, have some sort of obsession with chicken nuggets (aka "tendies") and would probably be a brony/pegasister or a furry. That's usually how the people in that imageboard portray people with autism.
As someone with OCD, THANK YOU for discussing this. I’m crying from how happy I am...It is also extremely extremely offensive how what they call the disorder isn’t what it is called. but they describe it as ocd.
Okay! Old video but I wanna put my two cents into this. The idea itself is okay, drawing the personification of YOUR disorder based on how YOU feel it. Like, I have two ocs who are the personal version of DID, which is a disorder I have. The twins are based entirely off of how I feel with this disorder and how I had to deal with its effects. I have another OC based upon my anxiety and in that, I based it entirely off of how I feel. Again. This is a good idea for people who want to personify their symptoms and how they deal with it, but using stereotyped things for it is a HUGE no-no. And so is Shipping the disorders. Shipping characters WITH the disorders is okay, I suppose, but shipping the disorders is, as you and I have stated, is bad. If anyone doesn't agree with what I said, that's okay! It's your opinion, and I will completely respect it.
I agree! I have adhd and some of my ocs have it! I have anxiety, depression, severe social anxiety (slowly becoming agoraphobia) so I make characters with them to show it and how I struggle with it and cope with it. They happen to have them, their lives don’t revolve around it.
Very true I have characters that have mental illnesses/disorders But putting stereotypes in them is very disgusting and should not be used I have social anxiety so I decided to give one my (not really mine) character social anxiety It just depends sometimes I do it for awareness and also because of their past trauma
As someone with NPD. I don't think I am better than people. It makes me mad when I can't achieve something as well as other people and it makes me hate myself even more for that even tho there is no reason for it. I can't describe it that good.
yo !! i totally get that, im fairly sure i dont have it but i relate to you hardcore man, whenever i cant do someone as good as other people i completely beat myself up over it and my overall image of self just absolutely plummets - it feels like im drowning in frustration and feelings of 0 self-worth and its honestly such a nightmare you got this though man !! stay strong, there are loads of us out here who believe in you !! ✨💪
also I don't have NPD but much like with APD these two 'terms' and disorders are so heavily thrown around online with strangers or people that using harmful stereotypes and representing them in such a way does just that of fully perpetrating ideas and negative views for others to continue uses these disorders as insults for people they just don't like/think have wronged them which really peeves me.
as a person who's been diagnosed with aspergers and high functioning autistic disorder ive had to endure my fair share of discrimination and flat out mental harm, i was diagnosed at the age of 12. My life didnt change on that day, ive been me this entire time, autistic or not. To see people associate mental disorders like mine with 'QuIrKy PhYsIcAl DeTaIlS' makes me question why humanity managed to evolve. Autism and other mental disorders doesnt change people, it makes us us. It can be hard to embrace that, i had my times where I questioned myself a lot about why i struggled so much with everything, only to then see other people use it as a physcial trait and just gloss over it like people dont struggle with it...it made me feel like i was garbage, like i would never be able to cope with my mental disorders, luckily therapy helped me out. Please, if youre reading this and feel the same way, i encourage you to take a step back and just think. Think about what youve accomplished and how you got this far.
If they made a character with autism they would definitely be a white male teenager with glasses and a striped shirt who is super duper smart and nerdy and thinks they are better than everyone. Thinking about this stereotype makes me want to implode lol.
man i miss when 4chan did sociopolitical activism instead of just trolling. like remember when they protested outside basically every "church" of scientology in the country? more of that please
There was never a golden age of 4chan lmao, you could never lurk without being exposed to people constantly spamming CP. It's always been a bad place for bad people
Yeah but 4chan didnt do it because sociopolitical activism They did it to piss off the scientology guys just because it was funny to them 4chan was and never will be about sociopolitical activism wtf
@@1917yee Wait what? Posting CP will automatically get you IP banned. It's probably the only thing that 4chan is really good at regulating (probably because the jannies don't regulate anything else). If you want a website that's filled with CP, go look at Tumblr.
I am a person who struggles with OCD/OCPD and OH MY GOD this bugs me so much. I am a mess. My OCD genuinely affects my day to day life and prevents me from doing things that help me take care of my hygeine, organization, etc. My OCD manifests itself in very different ways from the stereotypical "OMG I'm so ORGANIZED, whenever I see a pencil out of line it bugs me SO MUCH I'M SO OCD!!!" And it's like, no, I am in physical pain until I do what my OCD tells me to. If I get a cut or scratch on one arm I have to physically restrain myself from doing the same thing on the other arm. It sucks and it is so misrepresented.
Hey (this is from someone with OCD) just letting you know OCD and OCPD are VERY different!!! You may know this I’m not sure I’m just clarifying because you put them next to each other, you may have both even I’m not sure but I’m just clarifying for people in the comments. And even people with OCD may be confused and think they have OCPD so I’m just trying to say this. I also have really really debilitating OCD and I empathize. It sucks
I have a friend with ocd and she has joked about the stereotypical stuff before, but we both know that it affects her deeper than that. As someone with adhd, the pain of the stereotypical portrayals of some of the more “benign” and “quirky” disorders gets under my skin. OCD is NOT a personality trait. A character can be portrayed as a neat freak without needing to have ocd. I have had Trichotillomania (3 years) and Dermatillomania (5 years). IT SUCKS. One imperfection on my skin can tip me off for hours. I’m permanently scarred and it’s my fault. BEING IN MENTAL TURMOIL IS NOT QUIRKY OR CUTE, IT IS HELL.
As someone with OCD, I’d like to add that part of the disorder includes reoccurring, intrusive thoughts. These thoughts are extremely disturbing and anxiety inducing for suffers of the disorder. The anxiety, pain, and stress caused from these intrusive thoughts is typically the catalyst for compulsions. I’m not trying to say that you explained the disorder incorrectly, all people with OCD experience it differently. And I’d like to thank you for touching on OCD. A lot of people think that it’s just some cute quirk where people are neat freaks. But it is actually a debilitating and endless cycle of pain and anxiety.
i don't have OCD but the intrusive thoughts part is really something people forget. i had some really shitty thoughts like that , that basically just interfered with daily life and left me mostly useless for a whole month. i wish people talked more about it :(
It feels very iffy to make characters off of mental disorders and ship them, it is very different making a character WITH a disorder and making A DISORDER a character. Thank for bringing this to light and making this video. It feels nice that there are creators out there like you! I hope you keep making videos like these :D
Man I am diagnosed with AVPD and the way they portrayed the character makes me incredibly sad. Like, that is literally what I'm afraid people will see me as. So disgusting :/
As someone with sensory processing disorder, I'm actually glad they portrayed the archetype as an adult. Because it's more common in kids, it often gets passed over in adults. That being said, I found the design to be just... bad. It also doesn't change the rest of the harm this group has brought around. Not mentioned is the gendering of these disorders, which reinforces stereotypes even among doctors.
The OCPD one is terrible. The stereotype that all people with ocd are clean/organized is just incorrect. Though obsessive cleaning can be a symptom of ocd, that isn’t at all what it should be boiled down to. Many people with this disorder have debilitating intrusive thoughts and it’s just overall not something that should be generalized into a character, none of it should be. It’s the countryhumans thing all over again. People generalize other things that *absolutely shouldn’t* be generalized. It’s harmful and it perpetuates terrible stereotypes about people with these disorders.
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Thank you for clarifying. I have both Bipolar disorder and BPD
I was going to ask if that was the case I see you have addressed it. Thanks for the video these ppl are being ugly and they are acting like they want to help. Thanks for calling them out.
As an above comment says this account is a caricature of personality disorders, so 'SPD' here is referring to schizoid personality disorder rather than sensory processing disorder
Borderline personality disorder has now also been changed to EUPD, emotionally unstable personality disorder. As a borderline I hate it but here we are
@Dreamyandmemey it's been updated in the UK! I got my BPD diagnosis last February and it's down as EUPD
this compared to those "mental disorder monsters" by that one artist... god I love those mosnter drawings
OH BRO I THINK I KNOW WHAT ARTIST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT- weren't they the one who also humanized social medias and also drinks?
*m o s n t e r*
sorry--
@@evangel222 reporting time, say your last words bukko /j
Like. Even when there can be very different opinions from people with the same conditions about that, some would said is bad to take any didorder as entertaient like that, even when is linked to independient not comercial art, or on the opposite side, the gallery is a wonderfull way to ilustrate and summary the most important simphtoms for someone who will never experience it purelly or people who likes to fell identified.
Buuut,this comic idea ies different, even when is not breaking the law as far as I know, it could be very dangerous for very young audiences and people who takes too easy on this kind of disorders. And also, it does not want to broke or ignore stereotypes, it feeds completelly of them. Thats is the main 'yikes'.
Which one? Toby Allen?
Ocd isn't all clean and perfect, my room is literally a mess because i refuse to touch any germs with my hands...
TW: sh
I've had handwashing ocd before and my hands were literally cracked and bleeding. I put hand sanitizer on my hands full of cuts once and my special ed teacher thought I was doing the big ouch, it sucks.
@@mxstealyourfries7414 I’m very sorry that happened to you
Yeah I also have ocd, and I don’t clean my room because I know if I clean it consistently it will turn into an obsession and that would be too overwhelming.
My brother has severe OCD and he also has to be in control constantly or breaks down crying. We try to help where we can, but mostly give him space.
@@mxstealyourfries7414 i'm so sorry
Imagine if someone tried to make lgbt characters, except they did things like making the gay guy overly sexual while speaking in the most stereotypical gay voice possible, or make the lesbian short haired and overly masculine.
People already do this which is the sad part.
Its already the norm today and not only applied to fictional characters but also to real people. I've seen a lot "wow, she's so masculine, she must be lesbian!" etc on internet
*oh wait, that’s already been done*
Isn’t this a Netflix show
@@asdfghjkzxcbnm that show is so bad, i havent seen it but the trailer is gross(i also dont remember the name)
I HATE the whole “people with ocd are really organized” stereotype and when undiagnosed people say “OmG mY oCd Is AcTiNg Up” when something isn’t perfect. As someone with OCD, I am literally the least organized person I know.
As a kid with ACTUALY diagnosed autism, I'M glad that they didn't made autism as an OC. It probably would've made the whole situation EVEN worse.
@@anrandomthing7110 real
When I say I have OCD about something it's when I turn around in the parking lot twice to make sure my car is locked
@@anrandomthing7110Seriously tho this is just bad
Yep,especially some harmful stereotypes about other disabilities (but is can be ocd,even though I didn't born with ocd)
Thank GOD they didn’t do ADHD. I can just imagine how they’d try to represent that…
Agreed
Same here, yikicles on tricycles I'd be upset
Agreed. Both my best friends have adhd, and they aren’t like the stereotypes...
Yes thank god cuz I have adhd
I just imagine that they're going to make the adhd one look like a hypebeast (which might be the worst thing I ever imagined)
"The beanie stays on during sex"
I am honestly laughing at how bad of a representation this is, I was not expecting a deepfried meme about a disorder.
Are you saying they making a Tinfoil joke, if so, be more clear pls
That sounds like a professional shitpost.
@@redactedoktor ik this is just a elaborate edgy shit post or bait
that's something Chloe from life is strange would say
Man, seeing OCD/OCPD portrayed as a asian person just makes me very frustrated as it feeds into that one stereotype that every asian person is some high grades, neat, serious person or some shit. Its a fucked stereotype that some people may not notice they contribute to but are even if they dont mean harm (in general yk?) ok tiny rant over
-a slightly mad korean-american
I’m south Asian, but we have some similar stereotypes when it comes to education, and it’s really disturbing.
As an academically failing full east asian. I agree. I also despise when even my asian friends state that making having good grades a consistent want is the norm.
Imma correct you there, it's OCPD. Not making it any better though
I’m Asian AND I have OCD. But, nonetheless, this was still extremely offensive.
I was kind of surprised when she didn't include that in the rant about OCPD, that was the first thing coming to mind when I saw the character. It's just fucked up that they made them Asian because Asians "always get A++++ and are 100% neat 24/7".
- A half Chinese.
Tbh, the idea of a character turning into a monster when they have mental flair ups would be really cool if done correctly (like instead of doing it just because, it could be a way to be like “You’re not a monster just because of this mental illness/disorder” and as they slowly start to believe it, they stop changing?)
To show people that just because your brain works differently, doesn’t mean you are dangerous or hurtful ❤️
Woah
hey if youre into animated shows there is one called the owl house and a main character called eda clearly has mental health issues. this is under the guise of a 'curse' that her sister placed on her and she has to take 'elixers' (meds) to stop the owl beast from flaring up. at some point in the show she addresses the trauma she went through and the curse doesnt fully stop showing up but it becomes much more manageable to live with. The owl house generally has great representation i would check it out :)
So kinda like The Owl House or Birdboy.
This makes me want to make my ASD and ADHD into charaters
My dad has ocd and literally looks the exact opposite of that.. HE'S LITERALLY A BIKER FOR CHRIST'S SAKE-. It's not always perfection, nice, clean, slEEk that crap. It's mostly him getting mad at things left on the table, cleaning the car randomly, wanting to keep the couch, car interior etc nice. Not all ppl with ocd are nerdy perfectionist.
that’s exactly like my dad
my dad doesen't freak out or anything over a little peice of dirt he just likes things to be clean, and everything to be balanced, and everything to be on time
I had ocd as a kid and I still have it to an extent without the compulsions. I used to have constant intrusive thoughts of murdering my friends and family and I'd have unwanted sexual thoughts about people. I would also have to pick up garbage not out of being a tidy person ( I was a hoarder and a slob ) but because if I didn't I'd become disfigured or my family would die or I'd go to hell. I also would have to do other compulsions constantly like turning the page in a book a certain amount of times or untying and retying my shoelaces many times until I appeased the ocd. Yeah, it never had anything to do with being tidy...just regularly having to carry out orders from my ocd otherwise something horrible would happen ( or so I believed ). I don't often say anything when people attribute their being neat with ocd I just kind of internally roll my eyes and hope that no one has to deal with the actual mind fuckery that is ocd.
@@ivypharness2219 why describe me?
My little sister (12 years old) has OCD, she is really messy. She hangs out in my room all day and usually trashes it.
The designs are really pretty and have nothing to do with disorders. If you scrubbed the labels off, they'd be fine. Can people go back to character designs based on flowers and gemstones please? You can do so much more with those aesthetically speaking and hurt way less people morally speaking (I absolutely stand behind getting into fandom drama over my aggressive hatred of Rhododendron, overrated and toxic as fuck)
It makes me so mad because I loved BPD's design so much but I simply can't enjoy it because it is such a big stereotype of people with BPD. It's awful
I wish they'd go back tk making emojis into ocs
THIS FUDGING THIS!
art would be so boring if us artists just drew characters inspired by flowers and gemstones :’)
@@staggbones As someone who might have BPD (I'm getting tested) I can't because I look exactly like that
the thing that really irks me is that the characters don't have names, or personalities, or backstories. they're just defined by their disorders and i find that really disgusting
yeah, where’s the life behind them? they’re personified disorders which is one thing on its own, but usually personifications have something to them, don’t they? my characters are semi-based on my interests, but i tried my best to give them lives, like most characters have.
as an artist... that bothered me too... but it would probably be a hell of a lot more offensive.
@@inactiveaccount2703 well said
Tbh their only existencial reason is to be a stereotype so I dont see whats the problem in them being what they are suppose to be...?
YEAH EXACTLY, It makes it seem as if they really think people who have them can't be more than their disorders.
I cringed so hard when I realized that this is all personality disorder and the SPD one might be Schizoid Personality Disorder.
Girlie read each personality disorder on wikipedia and intepret it as if every person with that personality disorder 100% always acts like that like a trope/stereotype because it's a "personality" 😭
Girl fr looked up the symptoms and went "wow these are some really quirky personality traits, im gonna make an oc with them"
It is Schizoid Personality Disorder. The characters are meant to be the 10 (outdated?) personality disorders.
yeah SPD and SZPD get mixed up quite often
i have SPD and i confirm it’s not fun
( sensory processing one)
Hey just a heads up, SPD isn’t more common in children. It’s a lifelong thing. It’s just more likely to be diagnosed in children. And by adulthood it’s often less noticeable because we’ve learned to cope with our sensory sensitivities. Also, it’s not just being hyper sensitive to sensory input, it can also go the other way. Some people with SPD are “sensory seekers” where they need more sensory input than most people. This is often seen in kids who crash into walls and jump hard onto the ground.
And most autistic people have it too
Doesn’t go away when they grow up either, of course
My SPD was diagnosed when I was 7, and I still have to take occasional breaks from parties to recover in a secluded corner for a while. I’m generally sensory-avoidant, and although I’ve definitely learned to cope over the years, my SPD has never gone away. A recent dentist trip had me holding back the urge to get up and run out of the room when the dentist put a cotton roll in my mouth.
@@veggie_kller6964 Exactly I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 18 which is unfortunate but I noticed a lot of things for autistic people are mostly children things all the websites that you can buy things off of there like “for your autistic child” it’s really difficult for me to find things for me as an adult
OH WHAT REALLY? some people seek more sensory? huh, thank you very much, i've learned something today
@@jadetryingtochill1259 I remember that day when I got diagnosed with ASD my mum had some sites open in Russian on her phone when I was cooking and saw it, the first text I saw was saying "How to remove autism from my child" and oh god it looked horrifying thank god I can read Russian, my mum even says that my autism isn't gonna make me succeed in life at all..? I also can't wait to move the hell out of this house before my mum decides to do something bad. 2 years and 220 days wooo, made it this far :)
what really annoyed me was the bpd “meme.” as someone who often struggles with suicidal thoughts and knows how truly debilitating bpd is, i find it honestly degrading that they would make something so tone deaf like that.
Same.
Not all people with bpd have suicidal thoughts. So theyre making bpd a "quirky uwu i wanna die" stereotype . that pisses me off.
SAME!!
exactly!
it hurts me physically why is twitter like this my soul is leaving this realm
ocd and ocpd are very different disorders, they shouldn’t be used interchangeably
i actually didn't know that, thank you for saying so! im gonna google the difference between them so i don't accidentally use the wrong one in the wrong situation :))
What’s Ocpd I’ve never heard of it
@@kingdice6023 This may not be correct bc ✨internet✨ but this is a small explanation I found
OCD are the obsessions and compulsions. A person with OCPD will have some rigid behaviors, but they will not engage in the overwhelming need for repetition linked to OCD compulsions. Another basis for determining OCD vs. OCPD is the level of insight and self-awareness.
@@xxxdeadasfxck One thing to add would be that people with OCD have compulsions to an extent that annoys even them, and they'll know that it is a problem, while someone with OCPD will have less severe compulsions that they see as normal. That's why it's called a personality disorder, because their obsession is just part of their personality.
@@japanpanda2179 Thank you!! Like I said I got that from the internet so Im obviously not educated on the topic and what I said shouldnt be taken word for word, so having someone correct me/add onto that helps a lot.
How to make a mental illness character:
1) Don’t.
2) No seriously, stop.
3) STOP.
4) STOP!
5) NO. TIMOUT CORNER.
6) seriously, just don’t.
7) *Do not.*
8) if you are making a mentally unstable character give them actual traits or represent well don't make them a stereotype or use it for clout and give them names or just don't if you won't care to do research
I think it’s fine to make a character with mental disorders, but that shouldn’t be their only personality. And don’t make that character just because of it.
Dude imagine if someone made things like asthma or anemia into characters
@@jarjarthebredloaf wild
As a person with DID, I wish people would understand that having DID is fucking awful you can't remember basic things about your basic life and people think your some kind of monster BECAUSE of all of the bad representation we get. Thanks for touching on this it's a real problem.
Edit: everyone is so nice I can't even❤😭- indigo
Hi! I don't have DID but I do a lot of research on it and I hope your system is doing well today! Much love!
Yeah I agree it sucks. - Eliot [buttons system]
ya,, itz,, an actual disorder from trauma, sigh,, - pico
I have a friend with DID their very nice, i just hope they dont get all hate and stuff. Them and their hosts are amazing.
@@eliotbuttons8917 unrelated but love that name of yours! Tis very cool, hope y’all are doing well
I think there’s an issue with giving any mental disorder a physical form. They can manifest differently depending on the person (obviously with some trends) so when it comes to a character design it will inevitably simplify something incredibly complex.
Ye. If anything I’d make the background of the characters with sad disorder and then design them to match their personality’s and description (obviously I my research) and make sure the majority aren’t gonna be offended by the person I make
unless it's to express your own mental disorders and trauma (like what the singer from twenty one pilots does)
Of course it's simplified, you can't expect them to get everything
I actually enjoy doodling my depression and stuff portrayed by things such as monsters. I do at as a sort of strange coping mechanism. But doing it in a way that can be seen as mockery or something is something I will not stand for.
I don’t think anything ‘defined’ or ‘human’ looking would fit for any mental illness. Monsters are vague but sometimes they’re still not vague enough. Mental illnesses can be extremely vague yet so blunt sometimes.
I like how they just *fuel the stereotypes* of what people with certain disorders look like. Like I have OCPD and every time I tell someone that they’re like “uh no u don’t” and I’m like. Bro just because I don’t look very neat doesn’t mean I don’t have OCPD😑
Im a dermatillomaniac and when I’m finished with destroying my skin it’s not neat or lined up
I've got OCD too and I don't know how compulsions turned into being "neat". Sure, some people who have OCD can feel the urge to clean everything up but they aren't doing this because they "want to" or are "a clean and tidy" person, they are doing it because they feel like they have to. When you have OCD you feel like you have to do that one thing or something bad will happen to you or your loved ones. Even though you know it's completely stupid you still feel like you have to do it and when you don't, you obsess about it. Personally, I don't really mind these "mental disorders as drawings" things, it's just you have to look into these disorders and then draw it. You want people to feel represented after looking at these drawings and not like trash because their mental illness was based on a stereotype once again. (This is kinda random but, I hate it when people say stuff like "Oh ThAt'S gIvInG mE oCd!" Or "HaHa, AdHd MoMeNt!" I don't know it just rubs me the wrong way. Especially when these people don't even have these disorders. But hey, that's just what I think.(Also, sorry that this was long.)
@Ariella Benor dude thats literally me, anyone can have the "tap the middle or my parents are ded" but you obsess over the idea to the point it actually becomes annoying
Can you explain why and when it started being called a personality disorder or if it's actually somehow different to ocd and how because I have ocd and am extremely confused
@Ariella Benor it's not always a repetitive motion, it's a repetitive behaviour that your mind connects to the intrusive thought you're scared of as a way to ensure that it won't happen, so I have to obsessively check all the fresh fruit and vegetables I eat for even tiny imperfections which I then have to either cut off or literally just not eat the food because my intrusive thoughts are telling me it's full of bugs, horrible worms and parasites and spiders and maggots and I can only cleanse it and make sure it's safe by being extremely picky about it and pulling bits off and obsessively washing it and it's led to me just not being able to eat a lot of food because it's just too difficult and energy consuming to go through that whole process every time. My compulsion makes some kind of logical sense in response to the intrusive thought, no one wants to eat bugs and checking there are no bugs is a good way to prevent that, it's just that my anxiety about it is way too high, what I think will happen if I eat the bugs is way worse than what would actually happen even if I did eat bugs, I think I am way more likely to eat bugs than I actually am, and I am way too picky about what constitutes clean, bug free food because a leaf with one tiny hole and no other imperfections or dirt on it is not going to have bugs in it but my brain tells me it does.
As someone with OCD, Autism, and ADHD, I have to say that this entire account made me cry in frustration, my suffering was used for clout and I’m pissed off about it.
I had autism (and hopefully not munßausen syndrome) and i agree.
Being autistic doesn't mean quirky cute and cool. its just torture. These tiktok r3t4rds thought that by being quirky, they would got famous and friends.
What a dark timeline to live in
Edit: NO I DO NOT IM FINALLY FREE!!!!!! IM NOT AUTISTIC AND DIAGNOSED OFFICIALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck what a munchaeusen narcissist i was. But the therapist told me i have a decent chance of having inattentiveness oh shit
I have autism and adhd! So I didn’t feel very attacked but just knowing that if my disorders were up there is bone chilling. I’m pretty sure it would be a stereotypical little 5 year old shy uwu boy and a obnoxious loud school troublemaker young boy but seeing all these disorders make me so fucking mad don’t turn disorders into people turn people into people having disorders and make sure to represent it right :’( like this is really sad I feel bad that OCD is up there because you have it and all the other disorders make me feel so bad for the people who have it! It’s so rude! It honestly makes me want to cry and give anyone who has these illnesses and whoever saw this some hugs! And shipping disorders literally downplay the severity of the disorders! Like ship people with the disorders and make sure you represent them right!
@@justinkianaalfredo6843 I know right it honestly angers me so much! And when they Also use other disorders like DID! And OCD! Or so many other disorders Or they flex that they’re in a “asylum” I also hate how they completely ruin grammar! Pronouns are completely fine but when they start making their pronouns nouns! It makes me angry cause I’m apart of lgbtq+ and also I hate it when they stereotype disorders and pretend they have them by doing that! I could go on forever of what they do! It’s so offensive finally when they collect disorders like Pokémon cards is the worst! It’s okay to self diagnose and suspect because diagnosis are expensive! But be accurate and accurately research it!
I’m writing so much but people are just so cruel it makes me sad to see what this world became
@@justinkianaalfredo6843 the r slur?? hello???
“Trolling” is often used as an excuse for bad behavior.
or "It was just a joke"
I don’t know bro
yeah. i feel like the word "trolling" now is often just a replacement for "i was only pretending to be a fucking degenerate" and it's irritating.
@@barrysteakfriessimp_real i saw someone whitewash a poc character and told people to die then said they were just trolling and that the videos were jokes..
Yes
The fact that they put a crown on the npd character-
It made me so mad. My ex had npd and she did not represent herself as above all at all. She was very timid and self conscious but manipulated me into investing more in her because of that. Her manipulating me was wrong but it’s not her fault she has this disorder, and I feel bad that she has to constantly make herself seem inferior to get what she wants, but whatevs I guess
@@amexicanfox4384 I’m sorry about your ex and I’m sorry you had to go through that. I do want to say thank you though for being understanding and considerate towards your ex instead of being a full on raging storm towards them I can only understand surface level of how hard it is to deal with a person who has that disorder and many people fail to look at in the light you that you do so thank you for that.
for reaaaaal. like, there may be narcissists that think theyre better than others, but theres those who are insecure and pretend theyre better and look for attention 💀💀💀
Right
that’s how i knew it was npd before they said that it’s npd and it just feeds more and more into the stigma
Cant wait till they do maladaptive daydreaming! They’ll probably depict it as some sort of dreamy imaginative UwU girl. Nah man. I’m caught In an endless cycle of either being literally almost to the point of physically unable to get out of my own head, getting EXTREMELY frustrated all the time, “daydreaming” to the point that I feel uncomfortably disconnected from reality, painful disassociation, panic attacks, and EXTREMELY exaggerated emotions over the smallest things. Nah. I’m not “imaginative”. I’m caught in 2 different realities at once and I can’t escape.
Omg same, and it's very hard to tell people about it cause I just get the same "well just stop" or "do something to get your mind off it." I CAN'T! IF I COULD I WOULD! 99% of the time I don't even realize I'm doing it until someone snaps me back. It has caused me to take way longer on work and is a huge hindrance on life. If I EVER see someone depict it horribly like that artist, I WILL go apeshit.
do you have to see a professional for maladaptive daydreaming? i have some concerns about it. this is the second time someone with maladaptive daydreaming say something that i can relate to 1000%. i just....do i have that? i dont think i do but
@💮スロー shinrinyoku is maladaptive daydreaming a mental illness???
@@cultusfetus if it causes you distress and negatively affects your day to day life, then yes (though, there are cases where you may not recognize that it's hurting u)
im speaking for mental illness as a whole, i dont know enough about maladaptive daydreaming yet to say anything about it
Wait i actully never heard of this disorder, it sounds a little like stuff i deal with but can't pur into words... can i maybe get a little more description about it if you are willing to?
As someone with histrionic personality disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder, this is actually gross. The hypersexualization of people with hpd is something I completely loathe, because it’s not something I like about myself. I hate my intrusive sexual thoughts and the fact that I feel like my body determines my worth. It’s so demeaning to reinforce the idea that we’re all just slutty, that all we want is to get into someone’s pants
I feel bad for you... I don't have any mental disorders (not that I know of), but I still feel bad for you
*sees that the only black character is Dependent Personality Disorder*
Uh Oh
(Edit: it has also occurred to me that the highly sexualized Histrionic Personality Disorder is vaguely tan, which isn’t better)
That's gonna be a yikes from me.
YEAH I NOTICED THAT LMAO
@caramel_p0tturii • uh oh sisters
@caramel_p0tturii • zoinks and jinkies as well...
That's a Yikes
I have OCD and Anxiety and when I was like, ten, that manifested as massive germophobia. Like, debilitating fear at all hours. The OCD manifested as obsessive hand washing and not swallowing saliva and/or food or drink because I was sure I had just consumed something deadly in some form and I would die if I didn’t hold it in. The stereotype is not only a bad representation, as OCD can be very different for everyone who has it, especially when combined with other mental disorders, but genuinely offensive to me. This person took my YEARS of petrifying anxiety and tears and suffering, took the YEARS of pain felt by others with OCD, and compressed it into a stereotypical nerdy perfectionist. I don’t usually say things like this, but how dare you. How dare you diminish one of the hardest points in my life. How dare you make fun of the most broken years of my childhood.
I feel your pain. I also have OCD but my symptoms manifested differently. In my childhood, I had this fixation with my handwriting. I would write and erase the same letters over and over compulsively, intil I ripped through the paper. I’d chew through my pencils and have meltdowns from the stress. in middle school, my fixation moved to my hair. I gelled my hair back or wore hoodies, and if I was forced to take down my hair or my hoodie, I’d have full blown anxiety. It’s awful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. This shit also pisses me off. It’s like when neurotypical people go “oh I’m so OCD, I need things to be symmetrical!” shut up, no you don’t. you won’t have a fucking meltdown over a small object out of place. OCD is a serious condition that makes simple tasks impossible. It’s debilitating.
Ocd is pain, like, real pain.
I don’t have it but I do have a friend who has OCD. so sorry :(
Ikr this was very offensive to me too. As someone who have multiple mental disorders seeing this stereotypes just pains me. OCD is really not what some people think it is it’s different for everyone.
Oh crap, I used to do the same exact same thing. If I thought that I had touched something that could possibly, somehow be poisonous or potentially make me sick or something and if my hands touched my lips or face, I would hold my saliva in mouth and not swallow it. Then I would go home and wash my face, mouth and hands. It was really bad for me when I was younger.
It actually disgusts me the way the discord was talking about DID. As someone with DID, them saying that the DID character is “18 abuse victims in a trench coat” makes me want to cry. I hate this sm
I feel so sorry for you.
It must be so awful to see so many children romanticizing DID on the Internet.
We would ironically use the phrase as a personal joke with our Partner System, but actually meaning it? No fucking way. That's hurtful as fuck, coming from a fellow System.
@@Alisibeth_Talia212 Hi! I'm a bit curious about what a partner system is. I've been researching DID and other mental disorders for a while now because I would like to be a psychiatrist in the future, you don't have to answer if you don't want to!
Stay safe :D
@@de4dly_n1ghtshade A Partner System is what another System would call their significant other if their partner is a System as well! :) -Alise 💜
@@Alisibeth_Talia212 oh thanks for explaining! Stay safe :D
5:46 BPD actually stands for Borderline Personality Disorder. Bipolar is not a personality disorder, it’s a mood disorder. The shortened form of Bipolar Disorder is just BD.
The two disorders can (emphasis on can, because both disorders have a spectrum.) share some symptoms, but they aren’t the same.
Also, Bipolar can be medicated more effectively than BPD.
Thank you!
The person already made a pinned comment saying they accidentally did that
HOLY *FUCK* I DIDN’T KNOW THIS, THANK YOU
You know, I remember seeing an artist before where they took these disorders and turned them into different character much like this artist that I felt like (personally dealing with some of the mental illnesses) they had portrayed pretty well.
They didnt draw them as some uwu girls and cute guys, they drew them as being these monstrous almost leach like that would latch on to people and cause them to struggle greatly. Like their depression one, they had drawn depression as this inky leach that weighed down the person and in turn caused that person to suffer (even drawing the person it was attached to look incredibly skinny and frail)
As someone dealing with depression, that is exactly what it felt, a leach that seemingly sucks the life out of you. Comparing that art to this artist? It's almost insulting that one artist could do a pretty good job depicting the illnesses that make people suffer while the other just draws them in this cutesy "look how quirky they are" type of way.
Yeah, those drawings were far better than those... Colourful OC things.
Yo who’s the artist you’re speaking of? I wanna see lol
@@bitalbean8912 this is their imgur page of some of the ones they drew m.imgur.com/gallery/usYpxfe
Yes! I was just about to comment about them. @/shawncoss on Instagram incase anyone is curious.
@@fant0m763 thank you!,
My mum struggles with mental health and paranoia. This person shouldn’t find it cute. My mum and I have had to sleep in the car for several nights (she refused to sleep) because she thought someone was in our house trying to kill her. She’s shot a gun in the house once. It’s really serious and pisses me off.
I'm sorry... my mother used to do crazy things too, though not due to a mental disorder. They put her on an antidepressant for migraines, and we found out later (after I was on it too a while for the same thing) that we are genetically incompatible to it. That's why she'd sleepwalk to get guns and knives she'd wake up with in bed, or almost collapsed my father's chest in because she thought he was dying and started performing CPR on him in the middle of the night. She was also really physically... aggressive with me. I don't know if I could've handled knowing it was a mental disorder versus a medication she could stop. I'm sorry you dealt with that. Especially the firing the gun part, that must've been terrifying for you.
@@nachgeben it’s okay, I was 7 when the gun incident happened and I thought it was all normal until I was 10. She also did drugs which didn’t help but I live with my dad now. I’m very sorry about what happened with your mum.
I hope you and her are doing well. God bless you.💜
Holy shit seriously
Your poor mom….. i i cang believe shes that
Sigh i pray she has better days ahead
I hope you and your mom are doing great :)
Me having BPD seeing the design: “Jesus I wish I could be that hot” /j (I hate the design and what it says about the illness)
Ikr.
I have BPD and I'm still ugly
Fun
Me but with aspd and npd
yeah, same, ive got bpd and i wish i could be that attractive... /j
I have bpd too and this just… yeah
@@darktheloser I'm sure you're not.
You know humanity is degrading to the point where people romanticize having mental illnesses because they think it's aesthetic, but in reality it's really insulting to people who actually suffer from it
As someone with bpd, I would've actually liked if she was male or gender fluid, mainly because the stereotypical person with borderline is a woman who 'is bat shot crazy' they could've just given her colored hair without making her look like the stereotype of being edgy :// I think if the person who made this, they could've made a comic abt THEIR mental disorders or illnesses and how they 'interact' or if they still did this, with the same concept I'd hope they would add in borderline splitting, crying in a fit ect. If she did capitalize off this, I'd hope she would donate at least 5% to mental health help.
i agree, i think it would've been less problematic if they looked like normal people who just happened to have the disorders, instead of a stereotypical embodiment of them
@@JakauYT Yeah, I understand with bpd coloring their hair or sum, because we tend to change how we look drastically but we don't all look like egirls
The mental illnesses being personified is actually a popular idea - but as you say, they are often drawn as a way for an artist to express *their* feelings and struggles with those illnesses in a way that makes it clearer to the audience, not as a way to stereotype illnesses.
EXACTLY PREACH
I feel like its all bout the manic pixie girl narative
I'm not sure if this has already been said or not, there's a lot of comments, but BPD stands for Borderline Personality Disorder not Bipolar (: ♡
Liking so we can boost our comments so others can see.
Yes! Thank you, I was looking for this comment.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed
Thank you, I was just about to say this
I’ve been diagnosed with bpd recently (by my psychologist not self diagnosed) i actually don’t know what the difference between bpd and bipolar sorry if I’m being offensive I just want to be more educated T-T
bpd is borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder :) you got the symptoms of bpd right, just mixed the names up with bipolar disorder!
Thank you!! Was just about to comment this because none of the top comments mentioned it. It came from a good place so I’m not gonna get upset with them. So many people don’t understand the difference between bipolar and bpd and it stings sometimes 🥲 would be nice if they could maybe correct it and pin it in the comments so misinformation isn’t spread unintentionally
I was gonna mention that 😂
@@Palestizi i agreee.. it does sting tbh.. especialy since ppl like to dismiss BPD as just depression or just bipolar but different name or whatever.. and since we hve it from being invalidated and dismissed and abandoned from childhood, it do be stingin :"3
As some one who has bpd it is rough being stereotyped. So when I told my friend about my disorder they told me that they don’t have it yet when they see a frog it brights her day so much. She means so much to me just because she could care less that bpd she still calls me her brother.
i was abt to comment this, ty!
As someone who suffers greatly with BPD, the design sickens me. Just because we struggle doesn’t mean we are alt. Just because we are different, doesn’t make us alt. Some people with BPD are alt, yes, but most just dress how they want, like me. It disgusts me more that they paint her as sassy or mean looking. Emotions are HELL to live with when you have this disorder. Sometimes you want to die because you can’t handle them or because they control every little thing you do.
Being hospitalized 3 times, trying to kms 27 times, and over all being tired of my disorder has really put me in a tough spot and I am sickened by this artist.
I hate twitter.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. My head is fucking pounding from how angry I am right now.
And not all alt girls have BPD, either. The amount of times I as a girl with dyed hair have been asked if i have BPD (I don’t) is genuinely disgusting (it’s always asked by men who JUST met me btw, I actually have ADHD, another illness that’s stigmatized but not in the same way as BPD). It’s almost like people suffering with a mental illness don’t have a specific look and just because someone has a style that is common stigmatized as being associated with a personality disorder does not mean that person has that disorder. Another common stigma that people seem to have is that only women can have BPD but that’s 100% not true, BPD is caused by experiencing severe trauma in childhood and can happen to anyone of any gender. It’s also treatable and manageable with medication and therapy and people have different levels of intensity with their emotions. People shouldn’t have to defend themselves against people who stigmatize their illness.
27? You must’ve been really motivated
@@opheliasgh0st while i do agree that men can absolutely get bpd too, unfortunately, women are significantly more susceptible to traumatic events by just being a women (if you know you know), or that they are more emotional. This is coming from a women with severe BPD that was undiagnosed until my long term bf broke up with me because he couldn't handle my heightened emotions causing me to go down a long spiral because of "fear of abandonment." The person who made this comment talking about getting hospitalized for attempting stuck with me. It sucks I can't hold friendships unless I keep my distance. I have no friends or bf or family. I hate being alone.
I know this comment was 1 year ago, but I hope your doing okay right now.
when therapists tell us to personify our mental health issues, they do NOT mean it like this
(side note: personifying mental illnesses is common in therapy MAINLY to personify the disorder as a small little bug that can be crushed OR to depict the disorder in a way that’s accurate to how it feels. Don’t give mental health issues personalities)
I have not heard of that. Does it work?
oh boy I’d be scared to see what they’d do with ADHD. Quirky “oh so raaaandom!” girl? Boy who “can’t stop bouncing off the walls?” Bet no one would notice there are different types. Inattentive-type is what I have, and I know tons of people who experience even that TYPE differently. So yeah. This is a mess and I hate it. Shoutout to “why is she black” because I’m black and I’m salty about that post in their discord. -_-
I know what that feels like I have both types I'll get lost in a daydream at the same time as bouncing my knee up and down
I’m guessing it’s gonna be a guy and he’s gonna be super energetic and rude. Just…. end me now. 😑
Oh frick. I don’t wanna think about that.
I’ve met and have been friends with many people with ADHD and they litteraly act like everyone else, like yeah sometimes they need to fidget or walk around because ADHD causes them to be more hyper and have a lot of adrenaline compared to others without ADHD, but like…. Since when does hyper=quirky ??? Lmao
Ayyye inattentive squad rise up
I think I should quickly clarify: SPD is Schizoid Personality Disorder, not Sensory Processing Disorder, as they are all meant to represent the PDs. Similarly, OCPD is not the same as OCD, for any of those wondering, though it's not uncommon for them to be comorbidities. That aside, great video!
also i think bpd is borderline personality disorder
@@dillsreaper Yep, you'd be correct! I just wasn't worried about pointing that one out, as the creator had already corrected that mistake in her pinned comment. Thank you, though!
@@Priysmatik sorry i didnt realise they had corrected it :-]
please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't sensory processing disorder also called SPD, or is there another abbreviation for it? just curious cause I have sensory processing disorder, and I dont want to accidentally mislabel myself if I'm describing it to someone :))
@@wrenc8672 You're right, Sensory Processing Disorder is also known as SPD. It's one of those things where two conditions can have the same abbreviation, which is why Schizoid Personality Disorder is sometimes shortened to SzPD instead, to help avoid the confusion. I also have sensory processing disorder due to my Autism, so I understand the concern! You wouldn't be mislabeling yourself :)
9:02 : let's see how the artist responds to this
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As someone with severe anxiety I constantly get stereotyped as the “UwU,quirky character🥺” so I really feel for the people that were horribly represented in these drawings. If you’re reading this and have one of these mental illnesses, you’re valid and I’m so sorry for this mess
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the stereotype comes from people faking the disorder, which I think is beyond disgusting. I mean, I might be wrong though, my bad if I am.
@@joseph4495 That's the thing: A lot of this comes from wanting to poke at the ones who diagnosed themselves because they think it's cool and special to have these disorders. It's like how all these kids claiming to have DID and be streamers were advertising themselves on Twitter using Dream. DID is so rare, I guarantee they self-diagnosed to, at first, make excuses for acting like different people to have fun, and then they became convinced they have it. EVERYONE dissociates. Everyone. Dissociation and DID are two very different things.
You with your friends vs you with your family = dissociation. You behave like two sides of the same coin, representing yourself differently in different scenarios, hiding away parts of yourself and bringing parts of yourself forward in situation A that's different from situation B. That doesn't mean you have DID. That is a healthy level of everyday dissociation, and acting like that means you have DID not only makes you a moron, but disrespects the people who have it since it's born from severe trauma.
Same. I got diagnosed with like, 4 different anxiety disorders plus ADD and depression. It’s not a personality, it’s not fun. It’s not fuckin fun at all, it sucks and it’s crippling. I’m sorry you also suffer through anxiety, I hope you’re doing alright 💙
@@nachgeben I'd also like to mention that there's another disorder which overlaps with DID! The overall name is OSDD but the specific overlap is OSDD-1 (here's a video about OSDD-1b: ruclips.net/video/griq0tZUmQU/видео.html ) and self-diagnosis is actually pretty important in most cases as it's the first step to an actual diagnosis, if one is possible at all...
It's just extremely irritating and unfortunate that there are people who abuse self-diagnosing because they think having a mental illness is "quirky!" and "fun!", especially when they're taking something as serious and difficult as DID to be that "cool and quirky" thing. Personally, as someone who has been diagnosed with BPD traits and (mostly before medication) has suffered from severe suicidal ideation and the urge to "punish" myself... It's sad and frustrating that there are kids (more often than not) who want to seem "cool" and feel as though faking a mental illness will make them cool...
I only say this because I have a friend who absolutely has OSDD-1 in some regard as the alters in her system are very obviously separate people, they each have distinct typing patterns, speech patterns etc and there's even a non-human alter in the system who expresses animalistic behaviours. But she's too anxious about going to a professional to be diagnosed due to fear of her parents treating her differently or being mistreated by the medical professional who would talk to her about it.
I on the other hand believe I may express symptoms of ADD and/or autism due to my struggles with communicating, expressing my tone, struggling to tell other people's tones and a very, very short attention span (which is worse than my girlfirend's who has diagnosed ADHD) paired with struggling to stay on task when not fully engaged with a subject. However, I don't know whether I have either neurodivergencies and so I make it explicitly apparent that I only know that I experience symptoms while I'm on the 3 or so year waiting list to be diagnosed. But I think that's where the importance in expressing whether you're self-diagnosed or not matters, because even if/when you go to a professional to be tested and diagnosed and you end up not being entirely right, they'll likely point you to another possibility.
I was only diagnosed with BPD traits last year because it'd previously been mistaken for depression but I also experienced very, very brief manic periods and short periods of severe depression, but, because I recognised those as potential traits of a Bipolar Personality Disorder, this diagnosis was re-evaluated by a psychiatrist who instead recognised them as traits of BPD, even though I did not fit the full personality disorder. This diagnosis lead to me being prescribed mood stabilisers and the stabilisers have effectively stopped all those traits for expressing almost at all which is a huge improvement from the nothing that anti-depressants did...
My point is that self-diagnosing itself isn't the issue, because it can be a very important thing when used correctly, the issue itself is children/teens being immature and not recognising the harm they are doing... So, I personally think that self-diagnosing should be destigmatised but looking into being diagnosed being very encouraged to those who have self-diagnosed, because telling someone that they definitely don't have that mental illness can cause a lot of issues surrounding them actually seeking help for the symptoms they do experience...
I mean no disrespect or anything of course, I'm just trying to share my thoughts and experiences too, and I certainly am not trying to tell anyone that it's wrong for them to be frustrated, because I really do understand it. Have a nice day and I hope you're taking care of yourself
@@nachgeben this reminds me of when my ex friend diagnosed himself with DID and ADHD.
Something about the neurodivergent role in their discord being called "Non-Neurotypical" REALLY rubs me the wrong way...
@The Flying Kalamari unfortunately I am not. You can see at 12:48 the screenshot onscreen shows a bunch of roles that someone in the discord has, and one of their roles is in fact "Non-Neurotypical". Yyyyeah.
I really wish I had the words to explain why exactly that grosses me out so much and makes me so uncomfortable, but unfortunately I do not. All I can say is that it is such a shitty choice of words. And tbh, from watching this video, I can assume that choice was very much intentional.
it sucks because not only is it super vague (theres a big difference between autism and schizophrenia) it also centers our neurodivergency around neurotypicals. i am not 'non neurotypical' im autistic and my life as an autistic person doesnt revolve around allistic peoples
@@hyper_lagomorph1046 YES THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY!! YOU NAILED IT Y E S!!
Bet theyre also being fetishised by the neurotypical people on there too.....ugh
That gives me huge not like other girls vibes and again confirm to me that they believe being neurodivergent as ✨quirky✨
Urg 🙄
I'm just glad they didn't do ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). Not only is it SUPER vast in severity and symptoms (I'm personally pretty high functioning, but even then I have severe anxiety symptoms and hyperfixations), but it's already super stigmatized. Believe me, we don't need Autism Speaks 2.0.
Edit: So, I figured I should change some of my vocabulary, because I didn't realize that low/high functioning were terms that a lot of autistic people hate, and I have only recently decided to change my language. So yea, I'm low needs, not high functioning.
asd is a learning/developmental disorder, they're just drawing personality disorders.
also I'm 100% sure the dudes from this blog just googled "mental disorder" and i doubt they know shit like ASD and tourettes are disorders as well lol
data ASD is not a learning disorder, it is a neurodevelopmental disorder. That means it is a structural thing in the brain. Also SPD or sensory processing disorder frequently occurs alongside autism? It’s also common for us to be diagnosed with other mental disorders.
@@fabplays6559 yep, its especially hard when 1) you're a girl, and people think asd is a male thing and 2) youre a teen or adult who has learned to mask, and therefore, hard to diagnose... At least in my experience
Good they didn’t do DID, could just imagine them portraying an alter as a crazy murderer 😬…
Edit: OMG WTFFF??? I JUST SAW THE DISCORD MESSAGE OF THEM MAKING A DID CHARACTER IDEA WTH 🤦 (timestamp: 11:45 ish)
I agree and yeah.
My mother has BPD it should not be seen as a "baddie quirky i'm not like other girls " thing. It has wreaked my mothers life.
I actually sort of liked the BPD design, though if it wasn’t associated to a disorder it would actually be okay.
If it was just an original character it would be fine-
This solidifies my opinion of the BPD design, cool design, shitty that it was given to a disorder stereotype ]=
Yeah i like nearly all the designs just not what they represent/ are associated with
I agree with you! they wouldve been better off as original characters.
they had amazing designs esp the "bpd" one imo. it's horrible how they dumbed down complicated pds to stereotypical characters who are created with the intention of "representing" them.
they used their talent on this. what a waste of time and talent :/
Yea
That's the thing, they all actually have simple but pretty interesting design tbh. If they were named w actual names instead of illnesses, and not stupidly stereotypical it wouldn't be a problem
Person with ocd here. Severe ocd is debilitating. It is NOT limited to being clean or organized, it can be but that can be a symptom. It usually stems off of intrusive thoughts and is an anxiety disorder. The ships in here are funny as hell though
In ADDITION to that. It’s ocd, not ocpd because not everyone with ocd has compulsions.
Shut up
@@YunaLuni I- they were just trying to say smth about THEIR ocd-
I'm not defending them, but isn't OCPD different from OCD? I have moderate to severe OCD, and at some point I thought that I may have OCPD, but I didn't because I didn't fit the criteria.
Bro i have ocd and before I wasn't in a good place with it and couldn't be very organized because of how horrible it was, I totally get where your coming from lol
I honestly hope they never do ADHD, because that specific disorder is so stereotyped that the name doesn't even fit what it actually is.
I agree. Honestly, I hope they won't make a character for Autism either.
As somebody with inattentive ADHD I hope they just stop.
I agree, especially as someone with ADHD-C
@@fish6313 FR I HAVE AUTISM SO PLEASE DONT MAKE THE AUTISTIC CHARACTER SECRETLY PICK THEIR NOSE BECAUSE NO JUST NO
Haha yeah
15:10 "If ur schizophrenic it's an automatic ban"
Oh great finally, my illness is useful for once 🥰🥰🥰
I think a good characterization of mental disorders is the monster representation. They are more like creatures and it focuses on the disorder and how it affects people and not the stereotype of the people with it. I think everybody should look at them. Iys beautiful art and even more beautiful descriptions.
I was thinking of drawing some disorders as monsters and maybe some disorders as humanoids like autism since autism doesn't really affect me negatively.
(Like if I made autism as a character, it would represent how I experience it, like my not-so-obvious side of the spectrum)
Yeah, obviously not all pf them would be monsters, but making them non humanoids would work alot better. For 1, it wouldnt be a stereotype and secondly, it wouldnt imply that disorders are just someones personality, because they arent
Not monsters, but creatures or just non human characters in my opinion.
@Madison Jackson That's actually a super cute way of thinking about it ^^
I think it can be hit or miss. like for example id hate if someone took asd and made it some demon monster, cause no, asd is me, its made me, and im not gonna let it be demonized.
People with OCD in media: everything in my house is clean and all of my books are stacked perfectly in a row and I am incredibly successful
Me, a person with OCD: I brushed my teeth until I bled this morning and missed the bus.
Accurate
same, except instead of my teeth I cannot function if my hair part isn’t straight (the rest can be a tangled, oily mess idc)
this is not helped by the fact that I have lost literal hours pulling out my hairs one by one despite repeatedly telling myself “ok I really need to stop now or else I’ll be bald and sleep-deprived”
the elder gods have a cruel sense of humor apparently
Me with OCD: I refuse to clean anything ever because I can't touch the gross thing and also I think the universe is out to get me even though I logically know that's not true
Probably 60% of americans bleed when they brush their teeth.
Apparently it's actually a good thing and means the gums are healing, it's only abnormal if they're still bleeding after 9+ months of daily brushing.
Don’t forget intrusive thoughts and constant doubt!!
As someone with BPD them stereotyping us as egirls with black and white hair is offensive. I am alternative (Goth) but not because i'm unstable, Goth is a music based subculture but no. They assumed we were racists and edgelords 🙃 I'm a delinquent but that's about it. I also have DID and I'm really glad she didn't. she would have rue that day
It also sucks because borderline stereotypes go even passed edgelord. People keep categorizing it as "Psycho Bitch Disorder" and that shit is so isolating.
Same. Im not goth, ive learned how to stay optimistic and positive on the outside but on the inside ofc bpd is still rough but ppl cope with things so differently.
thank fuck no one called me racist during my emo goth phase... how do you even rationalize dark clothing and being shy as racism?
Do you have bipolar disorder or actual BPD because this girl said bipolar personality Disorder??
@@ari2036 i was diagnosed with bpd
My mother said once "people love to romantaze illness and mental disorders"
I couldn't agree more
how did we as a society come down to making mental disorders into characters
When are they releasing an “undo” option I’ve been waiting forever
Humanity could probably end itself in like a hundred years considering our current pace.
and then there's that incident about tt defending an actual murderer 💀 i swear in the next hundred years we'll be dead
@@valens.glassgrave hundred? give it a few decades, we're fucked
@@Duhgel eras*
BPD doesn't mean bipolar. Or it doesn't mean just being bipolar, to word it better. BPD means Borderline personality disorder. Indeed, Borderliners do often experience bipolar symptoms, among a lot of other symptoms and problems that effect our life in many ways. Bipolar is basically just the new word for manic depressive. It isn't a personality disorder. It's a symptom or a mental illness.
Bipolar disorder is a bit more expansive than just maniac depressive thus why the name change. It can present in a few different ways (I have type 2 and don’t experience manic episodes the same way type 1 does), but is characterized as an inability to regulate emotions with emotional extremes (depression and hyper/hypo mania) lasting for days or weeks at a time. Impulsive behaviors are more likely at these times as we are trying to either end the depressive state as quickly as possible or ride out the high of the hyper/hypo mania for as long as possible. There’s a genetic component, a trauma component, and maybe a chemical component to bipolar, but science has not quite identified the cause.
I just wanted to clear things up since I’ve had issues with family painting their own mental picture of what my disorder should look like when they think of it as renamed manic depressive disorder.
@@indiecrowarts I knew that much I was not trying to put to much detail into a comment critiquing the phrase "Bipolar is basically just a new word for manic depressive" as I found it a bit reductive to what bipolar actually is. Glad to meet another bipolar though!
Youre right. Bipolar is BD lol Bipolar isn't two words
BPD and Bipolar II are quite similar, one of the big differences is that Bipolar II is episodic. It can be short episodes though, which adds to the confusion between them. Another difference is that medication is less effective with BPD than with Bipolar II.
But yeah, I agree with you. BPD isn't Bipolar and Bipolar isn't BPD.
i noticed on the tags that there was one that said “bpd kinnie” and while people using this tag may actually have bpd themselves, a mental disorder is not something you can just kin. you may see a character in a show or in a book that has bpd and say “hey i relate to some of these things that they’re going through and i can see myself in them as a character” and kin them, sure! that seems fine to me (if you disagree feel free to tell me, i’m always up for learning a bit more). but in a situation like this where the character is literally the (wildly inaccurate) personification of a disorder that is incredibly hard to deal with and makes thing hard for a lot of people with the disorder, it’s really gross that you can “kin” them.
I didn't notice that but that's just...gross. Especially since BPD is already made a joke enough as is and we don't need people acting like it's possible to "kin" our hardships.
Idk if I misunderstood on what youre were trying to say but as someone who suffers from BPD I just want to say that my BPD has a name, I sometimes refer to it in third person and see it as a somewhat "second personality".
Dont get me wrong. I dont do this to not take responsibilities for my actions or anything like that but most of the time I get amnesia after my STRONG "bpd attacks" (idk if theres a name for this :-:) and if necessary my partner explains to me what my BPD did and said and explaining to my partner that I didnt really meant what I was saying just gets a bit easier.
We sometimes bully my BPD like an actual person I despite. It takes away its power and gives it back to me.
Im an artist myself and I think I could design a character based on my BPD but it wouldnt be a "oh thats BPD thing" but more of a "thats MY BPD thing" if Im making any sense here :-:
I've just given up on understand what kinning means
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 i think at first it was people who genuinely believed they were fictional characters but then it became just kinning whatever character you like
As someone with BPD is fricking sucks. Personally I feel very angry all the time when the real emotion is sadness. I feel like everyone is and is going to abandoned me.
The youtuber: ranting about "tales from the dsm"
Me: *VIOLENTLY TAKING NOTES ON THE SHADING TECHNIQUES BEING USED IN THE SPEEDPAINT*
Same dude
I will never feel as much whiplash as I did seeing the words *"BPD Kinnie"* on my screen.
SAME
Exactly, you can't *kin* a disorder. That's just disgusting and they shouldn't be in the same sentence.
i genuinely got so fuckin mad n disgusted by it i had t call up my counsellor t let it out
W h a t -
About the anxiety one, It's probably rooted in racism, because of course the Black character is dependent and needs help
And the last one is extra gross because the character is asian coded, and those things you said, people tell to a lot of asians. That they follow rules strictly and what not, It's not a good look with the #StopAsianHate going on
(Just popping in here real quick to say Memento Mori🖤🤍)
Also considering that DPD is one of the only black person in the group
@cherry as another Asian who is openly far from intelligent and could care less about rules at this point, I heavily agree with you
@cherry
I as an asian agree
I dont get how the one with anxiety is racist tbh
The BPD girl is actually really cute! It’s extremely sad that she, and the others, are being used in an act of ableism. This makes me very upset. (And he does look like Quackity)
All of them are cute .
@@dkchariot2716 I agree :] I just really like her
@@greyd1788
i just had a felling they knew abt mcyt, i think its just a radar that goes off
The idiot who made this video quoted BPD the wrong way. It’s Borderline Personality Disorder, not Bipolar Disorder. How can you all so blindly follow this creator’s video when they don’t even know what the eff they’re even saying?!
@@gothbat676 please read the pinned comment! they have reading comprehension troubles :)
i’m so happy they haven’t done one for eating disorders. i cant even imagine what they would come up with
minecraft skeleton ocs
@@pizzabunk or some deviantart type shit
@@pizzabunkFOUL
@@pizzabunk Sobbing
golem from lotr in an uwu girl outfit
I mean... making characters with mental illness if done properly is great, I do it myself with characters who stuggle with the same disorder or illnesses as myself. But I keep most of that to myself as comfort or don't have it as a focus if I share it publicly for awareness and because I like exploring these subjects because that's only a small part of what we are even if it takes over most of our lives.
I'm not even that angry anymore. Just disappointed that we didn't leave these things back on Tumblr and seemingly haven't developed much in that regard. It doesn't even make me sad anymore, I can't bother with these people, I got enough issues as it is.
Agreed! It shouldn’t be used as a edgy purpose of sorts
I have a character with PTSD for backstory reasons and then a character with ADHD because I think it fits for the character, I don't have either one (at least not diagnosed) but I made sure to do as much research as I could to make it make sense and actually accurate
the thing is, if the characters weren't about mental illnesses, then they would be great oc's, for maybe like, a story or something, i just find it disgusting that they would stereotype and s£xual!ze mental illnesses :/
This isn't related at all, but what pride flag is that?
@@Zarmdthecoolest its not in the right colours (cause of the picrew) but its the asexual flag :)
How they sexualized it??
@@atanaZion Look at one of them, I forgot which one it was.
I thought this was just a small young artist who is ignorance with mental illness but holy damn, these people are sick. I have GAD (generalize anxiety disorder) and MDD (major depressive disorder), and I have people say I don't look like i'm depressed due to the way I dress(I wear colorful clothes) and act (I'm quite talkative). They usually see me in my good day and therefore sometimes they think I'm faking it.
People with depression can have good day. We don't always act like a character from my chemical romance song.
EXACTLY! I have GAD and MDD aswell! I also am autistic, and have adhd and ptsd, but I’m REALLY good at masking!
honestly as a bystander it feels like they're slapping a cute personality/aesthetic onto mental illnesses... like yikes
I also has MDD. We're not really "dark and mysterious" or "edgy", we're just people with chemical imbalances. I can still feel joy and have fun despite still having it. Sadly, not everyone knows this and thinks I'm "cured" when I'm just having a good day.
I have depression too, and people fucking tell me that I do not have depression because I smile and laugh, and (I kid you not) bc I dont have scars on my body. BRO????
I feel horrible for the ari in the screenshots at 13:59, I hope she decided not to k!ll herself, and got help at that mental hospital, she might not have known what the work would do. wishing her a healthy life if she’s still alive ❤️
I love it when people make things like plushies or personifications of their problems. I myself have an oc named the "Borderline Bunny" and adore making stuffies representing my various other issues (anxiety, ocd, depression, neurodivergencies). But when it becomes. Commercial. Surface level. Stereotypical. Meaningless. It just. It comes off as so weird. If you don't have that disorder, that's just so fucking weird.
I second that. Personifying your own problems is a great way to heal.I illustrate my MDD with a "brain bug" and it makes me feel better because I imagine squashing it. Personifying other people's problems, however just perpetuates them.
Kittydog does the same with her Adhd with a few of her characters
and the anxiety fox
i have “henry the hoarder” and i draw him closing my room off with my own garbage. i also have “mia” which is my bulimia personified.
I agree. In fact, I do the same thing- making OCs of my issues helps me cope with some of them.
Ocd isn't actually all about the compulsions, it's also about the obsessions, (hence the name obsessive compulsive disorder) basically most people with ocd don't always organize things or do repetitive actions just because it "feels right", there is an obsession behind that so you do those compulsions to put your mind at ease for little while. One of my compulsions was to tap five times with my fingers whenever I got the urge. That might not seem so destructive at first, but the reason I was tapping was because ocd was telling me that if I didn't, my family would be in danger. I was obsessed with the the thought and fear of my family dying, so I had to do a compulsion or ritual to make it go away. Now any normal person would know that tapping your fingers does not guarantee something like protection. It just doesn't make sense. People with ocd also know that. Some can accept it more than others but we all know that. However we get stuck in the 'better safe than sorry' mentality cause it's just tapping right?? But every time you give in to compulsions, it strengthens ocds hold on you, which makes it harder to stop the next time. And if your ocd happens to get triggered by a situation out of your control, you could have a breakdown in which the compulsions out tenfold and you just can't stop, it's too strong. I've seen people with contamination ocd (obsessed with the thought of being contaminated by outside or inside forces) break down and take the skin off their hands and forearms because they just kept scrubbing it. I've seen people with trichotillomania (picking of the body, a lot of people with ocd have this as a compulsion) who have big bald spots on their head or eyebrows and people whose faces are scared from excessive picking. Sure there are people who want everything to be clean and perfect, but there's also people with ocd that can't stand things like that. There are people with hoarding ocd who's houses are absolutely disgusting from all the junk that they hold onto. It's really a demon and not at all like people perceive it. It's not about making things look a certain way or being super clean just for the hell of it. It stems from hellish fears and thoughts. "What if I get infected with sepsis, I don't want to die like that" "what if I fall asleep and when I wake up my family is dead, and I'm the one who killed them" it's really hard and shouldn't be reduced down to these kinds of stereotypes
Oh jeez. I’ve found it harder and harder to hide the bald spots on my scalp and eyebrows lately. I had no idea there was a word for it. (I’m not professionally diagnosed with OCD yet, but it runs in my family and I have had all the symptoms since at least first grade.)
Yeah, my compulsions are super weird and nothing to do with organization
One example is I habitually cover the vent in my bathroom because you can kind of see the basement through it, and that makes me nervous even if nobody is in the basement, I just feel more comfortable covering it (I know it's weird AF, but it's a ocd related compulsion I have)
The common misconception that it's always about organization and cleanliness almost made me think the psychologists got my diagnosis wrong
Until I learned more about it
I really appreciate people like you who are willing to do things like this just to inforn others because that way they can understand it. I don't normally talk about my opinion until I know the full story of things so you saying this helped a lot! Also I didn't know that it was an obsessive things that dosent revolve around one thing this actually showed me a really interesting fact.
FACTS
Hey just a heads up, OCD and OCPD are suuuper different disorders. OCPD, despite the name, actually doesn’t really consist of obsessions and compulsions like OCD. The presentation of OCPD is closer to the popular portrayal of “OCD”, in which people are exceptionally neat, rigid, and NEED things to be done a certain way. (Lining up all the pencils in color order, etc)
But you’re absolutely right: OCD and OCPD are conflated way too often and OCD has taken on a popular portrayal that in no way describes the people who actually have it.
Why is DPD the only character of colour? I wouldn’t have an issue with it if DPD wasn’t stereotyped to not be able to function without others help, it’s just kinda rubs me the wrong way that this disorder is the one they picked to be the only person of colour.
Same way I feel with the Asian guy with OCD…it’s so stereotypical of Asians to be “tidy neat UwU”
I’ve failed math and Chinese my whole life and only got better these few years , rubs me weirdly
@@lee-lv8zo That's OCPD man,not OCD.Two different things
It’s like, “she’s black so she needs to depend on a white person.” Or whatever. It makes me mad as a black girl
@@checkmate6019 yeah i have ocd. not ocpd. ty
that character isn’t the only POC though? not saying your criticism isn’t valid, but HPD and OCPD both look POC too.
My BPD and NPD had ruined my relationships with many a partner, colleagues, and damn near ruined it with my parents. I’m not a sexy E girl in any way, nor am I a cocky bastard. I am so incredibly heart broken because of this. The blatant disregard of feelings for clout is so stupid
As someone with an oc that has PTSD and many other mental issues, this makes me...uncomfortable. I take a lot of care and consideration into making him, since I'm a trauma survivor as well. Watching people make such mental illnesses so sexualized is really off to me. It's one thing to make an oc with a mental disability and make it actually work; and another to just do it because it's popular. A lot of tropes seem to make depression and trauma seem like it all goes away after they get a significant other or a stable friend group. It's not true, as you can never recover from these things unless the person themself tries to.
I agree. Two out of four of my main OC's are on the autism spectrum (the other two are more or less on the line), but only because they're partial self-inserts and I have the disorder as well. I can speak for myself and these characters, and to an extent I can speak for the disorder as well, but everyone with autism is different and I can only speak for the experiences I myself have had. Seeing this account do these things and only stick to the stereotypes in full personifications of the disorders, instead of just making a character and giving them the disorder or making multiple characters with different symptoms of the same disorder (i.e. my first OC only really has two main stims, is pretty social, and doesn't have much in terms of sensory issues, while the other has at least five main stims, relatively bad sound-based sensory issues, and literally lives almost a full day's worth of travel away from most of society so she doesn't have to deal with people every day and can just focus on her animals), it just makes me angry.
Honestly, just wait until this account makes an autism character that is prone to outbursts, antisocial, always using stim toys and comfort objects like chew necklaces and headphones, and so many other stereotypical things and passes it off as 'lOoK guYS, theY'RE AutISTIC, They havE ThIs mentAl DISorDEr' (even though autism is a neurological disorder, not a mental one)
Did you have to make it about a fictional character with no feelings or emotions that you created when you could've easily talked about yourself as a trauma survivor?
@@stephenm8415 You do realize that I have a choice in what I say about myself, correct? I'd rather not talk about my past trauma, besides, that's not the point of this video.
@@stephenm8415 well that's just rude. OP has no obligation to talk about their trauma in the comment section of a random youtube video, and if they don't want to do so, they don't have to. And besides, the video was literally _about_ original fictional characters, OP talking about their own trauma wouldn't have even been relevant to the video. The only reason they even brought up their own PTSD is because they wanted to make it clear that they actually know what they're doing with their OC. Please read the room and think about why OP would've said what they said before you just start making assumptions and accusations
@@irishuisman1450 Your point makes it out that these characters are offensive because other fictional characters have illnesses such as these and the stereotypes hurt and demean the issues of those other fictional characters.
Ok so this definitely is bad.
Probably not the best thing to portray disorders that are already stereotyped in a stereotypical way. Although, I do think I can be done with class in certain cases. Like, I have drawn personifications of my own disorders as a way to represent things and put my experiences into art, but I’m not going to act as if my characters are applicable to every single person who also has my disorders.
Overall, it’s great that you called them out.
But I would like to note, neurodivergent is usually only used for people who have developmental disorders (Autism, ADHD, Dyslexia, etc.).
Just trying to make sure you understand since you said you’d like to be corrected if you’re wrong.
But like I said before, great video! :D
@Emma Wetta Props to you! Also nice cursed hajime you got there lmao.
@Emma Wetta 👀👀
I have a personification of what my anxiety and MPD is like, and obviously it's very different for others. I just like coming up with designs for them and now they kinda became my babies. (My profile pic was a Picrew of the MPD personification I made.)
I'm autistic myself and I tried it in high school out of boredom. It was cringey and bad, but I tried. Honestly this makes me feel like trying again and see if I can do it better than the people in this video did.
i agree as well
i have adhd autism and am on a diagnosis waiting list for ocd
i personify pretty much everything (it’s a semi common thing in people with autism)
so it makes sense that i can see my disability’s and disorders as people (it’s basically how i see and explain to myself how my disorders interact with themselves and each other)
i have drawn them
and i have shown them to a few people (but i always make sure to make it clear that this it’s my view of my own experiences or my disorders and that it’s different for everyone)
i can only really see my disorders as people but occasionally i can see others (mostly ones i know or have similar experiences to)
my brain has also assigned colours to each disorder (like autism is royal blue, adhd is yellow , people pleaser syndrome is white/off white and ocd is cream)
It sucks that someone so talented artistically could personify disorders that people genuinely struggle with. This is straight up abelism and my heart goes out to all the people who struggle everyday only for their disorder to be turned into a cutesie relatable OC. On a side note, I only found this channel today and you're very informative, good job, and new sub :)
So many people have good talent, but instead of using as a way to make money or just simply liking it as a hobby they decide to make stupid things.
@@probablytired5658 yeah, it sucks
My hobby is art and I’m ashamed if I don’t know about something or not sure if it’s rude to talk about it when doing art then I ain’t gonna do it or do it alone without posting
@@everythingjammy5770 as you should
@@degenerat9329 yes I am a true artist I swear I think they traced
What I hate is that Angie didn’t outright say she was racist and ableist. She was using it sarcastically to say “oh, what I’m doing is good.” People often use things they are called to make them look good. Which is okay in some cases. Not in Angie’s.
If I were to draw my OCD I'd draw it a bit like Crona from Soul Eater (like with a monster that beats me up constantly and tells me what to do). Mental illness can be drawn if done right. You have to understand what is happening physically and mentally though to portray it in a way that isn't offensive and represents the disorder accurately.
Crona would be a good candidate, especially how they usually look shy and can’t really stand up to ragnarok. I can see that portraying OCD in a way,
Yeah omg I just realized!! I know a lot of peoples says that kid have ocd but honnestly (as someone who also sadly suffers from it) to me it feels way too much like the creator just played an obsession with symetry for laugh and not in an ocd kinda way?? If that make sense?? I haven't finished the anime yet so maybe there is more to it but it looks like he just obsesses over it by appreciation and not by fear of what could be if it isn't symetrical. Crona works much more imo
I want to draw my adhd because people think of it as “quirky and crazy” when it’s a huge fight with your brain and your body to do everyday things. I also want to do one for narcolepsy because it’s a huge struggle as well and there more to it than sleeping 12 to 15 hours everyday and it not being enough.
@@yamihere5569 kid could have a type of ocd, or a minor form, but i dont think its a representation either! most likely just a gag. crona however, totally see it.
@@vesselofadam yeah he could totally have OCD tendencies that's something a lot of people get mixed up with OCD, a major thing about ocds the fact it is a disorder it disrupts your life
Spd is a form of neurodivergence. Meaning it’s something you always have once you have it and are likely born with it as it often accompanies things like adhd and asd which you are born with. Kids are more commonly diagnosed but they grow up to be adults with spd.
DUDE I was just about to comment that!! I was a kid with spd and I grew up to be an adult with spd. Stay awesome friend
THANK YOU!
No, is not
Personality disorders cant be considered Neurogivergence by itself
@@atanaZion They can actually, but regardless SPD is sensory processing disorder……
Yes!!
SPD in this context is actually referring to Schizoid Personality Disorder.
I'm a schizoid, so i can give some of my insight on the disorder and the design of the character.
The general symptoms are:
social isolation, indifferent to praise, lack of close friends, limited range of emotions, reduced sex drive, or relationship avoidance.
There's a lot more to the disorder than is listed on most mental health sites and in the DSM.
The character looks as though they're wearing pajamas (the hallmark for a homebody type person), which likely stems from the stereotype that schizoids avoid social situations and tend to stay home.
I find this very irritating since there's so much more than just the "quiet, stay at home" type.
However, that IS what you would see someone co-opting your disorder through self-diagnosis acting like. You aren't that, because you *actually* have it. Those who want it just to get attention because they're assholes with a whole other set of issues would embody that stereotype. That's what you should see those avatars as: mockeries of the kids who take on these disorder titles like it makes them cool. Don't take it personally, try not to feel irritated. It's not you it's making fun of, but all the people who make your life significantly harder.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I am autistic so while my own disorder wasn’t in that roster of disabilities, I’m definitely going to keep this in mind since one of my big time projects is a webcomic that will mostly be about disorders and disabilities (mostly ones that are stereotyped, misrepresented, or underrepresented to try and give more understanding of what people with disabilities have to go through) I will definitely keep your advice in mind as I go along with this project!
That sounds super interesting
Ooooh! Is it uploaded at l? If so what is it called?
@@welcometothecrazytrain519 it is not uploaded yet, but I think I’m going to post it on webtoon, Wattpad, and possibly yt. The current title is “Our Story” but I’ll probably change it lol 😂
i think you could make gijinkas of mental disorders work, but the thing is, they have to be for the purpose of educating rather than romanticizing, demonizing, or mocking said disorders
✨AGREED✨
I feel like it’s not a problem to really make whatever you want, so long as you don’t go sharing them online. Like I used to draw character representations of my mental disorders, and a lot of them involved a lot of the stereotypes since I didn’t really have many ideas for how to involve the nuances of the disorder, but I used drawing them as a coping mechanism and to help better understand myself. When you put them online you have to be aware of the fact that you are now contributing to the way these illnesses are viewed, there’s a responsibility you have to be held accountable for
they could draw the disorder itself, rather than a person with said disorder. kinda like how depression is charactarized as a black wolf, or anxiety as a... red wolf (wait are they all wolves?)
I don't have any of these disorders, but I do have ADHD, and the stereotypes have made my life an even bigger struggle. The idea that I'm just a "normal person" with "funny quirks" is a huge misrepresentation of how I can go a week without showering because the task change is too drastic to process
My friend has BPD and it sucks. She developed it during adulthood and it’s horrible seeing someone basically change who you know them are. Seeing them go through episodes and not being able to help fully . She’s not an egirl. She’s not some edgy girl. She’s a geeky avg dressing woman .
That’s interesting, I have it and I was lead to believe you develop it as a child/possibly born with it?? No one really knows if it’s genetic or not?? And it manifests later in life.
But your comment made me search it and apparently some people can develop it as late as 30?
@@Frostfern94 bpd is from trauma or certain stuff that happened in your life i think
@coastalwaves3602 Yeah from what I've heard, BPD is usually from trauma and life events, symptoms are more common in adolescents but ofc can happen later and there's probably other things that can trigger it but it's not too clear what
the whole born with as a child thing you might be getting confused with bipolar, which is caused by chemical imbalances (I think?) and genetics so technically you'd be born with it although trauma could definitely trigger it
I have BPD. I'm 26 and it has been affecting my life since childhood. It is genetic to some degree. People whose parents or siblings have BPD have a much higher chance of developing it compared to people who don't have any close relatives with the disorder. Childhood trauma plays a major role in this disorder's development too.
BPD also often means a smaller amygdala and hence short quick outbursts of intense emotions, that's why it's also called emotional dysregulation disorder.
BPD sucks honestly, it can be crippling.
Also, BPD stands for borderline personality disorder, not bipolar.
I actually knew the Co-creator of TDSM personally back when they owned a personality disorder Discord server. The co-creator (Crescent-moon/Sam) was outed for being a pro shipper and for drawing NSFW art of under 18s.
They would constantly diagnose themselves every other week with a new personality disorder depending on what they related to. It became a running joke amongst members of their server that they collect personality disorders like Pokémon.
You know, it disgusts me that they contributed to stereotyping these disorders to such an extreme level considering that they owned a personality disorder server and were friends with MULTIPLE people with personality disorders.
It doesn't surprise me with the type of person they are, but it doesn't stop me from being disappointed.
(P.S thank you for talking about each personality disorder with a neutral approach. That does a lot for the community which constantly has stigma like this thrown at it).
BPD makes me so fucking mad. I live with BPD, and I’ve had relationships ruined because of it. I’ve lost friendships, relationships, my lasting relationships are standing on a knife edge. My depressive episodes and my emptiness is horrifying. Having it all portrayed as an UWU edgy e-girl, is disgusting,
@@mr.mistersquidspongesquare9652 i believe thats a reference to the fact that percieving the world in black and white is one of the symptoms of bpd but yeah
Yep..and people kinning it, people kinning a disorder
@@mr.mistersquidspongesquare9652 it's borderline, not bipolar
Im just so happy they didn't do ptsd.. that would've hurt me so bad.
That would be really offensive for those people wouldn’t it?
if you can get ptsd from that you should probably not be on the internet for your own good
@@ovencore2549 they wernt saying they would get ptsd from the dsm they were saying they dont want the dsm to make a character based off of ptsd
@@ovencore2549 well I guess a majority of CSA normal sa victims and a lot of veterans should get off the internet
@@Kevin_Theadore1 unless you're listening to fortunate son as a vietnam vet i don't think you're gonna have ptsd triggered i meant getting ptsd not having it triggered
I liked the designs and artwork, but I wish they weren’t used to fetishize illnesses. I would like to see those designs are real characters however.
My fiance has bpd and stuff like this triggers him badly. He hates when people romanticize or make a mockery of it because he suffers and struggles everyday just to want to live with it. Especslly with how irl pwbpd are villianized alot. And even victimized. Its frustrating to see kids glorify it without basic understanding of just how hard it is to live with for the person who have it as well as the immediate people in their lives
About SPD, it’s actually very common for adults to have it as well. It’s just adults are more likely to have better coping mechanisms and have learnt to deal with it through out their life. Symptoms are less visible which means it’s less documented in adults. Saying that it’s “inaccurate” because the character was portrayed as an adult kinda hurt a little bit ngl. Why can’t people see that if you’re not kicking and screaming, the suffering and stress is still there? So many neurodivergent people are infantilised because their condition is seen as being “only for children”, when it stays with you so much longer than that.
I agree. from what I know, it actually progresses and increases as you age (unless there's a lot of therapy involved I think), I know my sensory issues have skyrocketed over the past few years
yes!! (i’m autistic but i have a lot of sensory issues so i can kinda relate)- the not kicking or screaming thing is so true, people think that, if i hear a loud noise and don’t immediately start crying and shouting that i want to get out, i’m faking it. like, not everything makes me overstimulated (especially if i can control it or asked for it, like loud music in a concert or loud music in my headphones) and i don’t have to show it if it does make me overstimulated. i keep it in most of the time anyway and don’t do shit besides stimming or smth
Exactly like if it’s common with kids like they’ll grow up to still have the disorder
@@razminfox1787 yes! it's just not always as obvious, cause we grow up and learn how to cope with it and keep it from the general public, cause it isn't accepted behavior for adults
as a DID system with BPD, the person who said "DID is just and extreme version of BPD" is horrifically wrong. they're nothing alike, the ONLY similarity is the fact that both use the word "splitting" but even then, the definitions are entirely different. I genuinely want to know their thought process on how their two link together whatsoever, because DID isn't even a PD haha
Yo bro why do so many people in these comments feel the need to say that they have a dissociative disorder
Seen like 5 comments
@@y09
…Because it’s relevant? It was brought up in the video, and obviously someone with the literal disorder that’s being misrepresented would have something to say about it. Hence stating they have it and that they can clarify and attest to the fact that the representation in the video is incorrect and harmful.
@@y09 Dissociative disorders in general are more common than people think, but specific disorders like DID specifically is more rare. For example, dissociative amnesia (forgetting specific events, time periods, people, important information, in relation to trauma) is pretty common for trauma survivors in general, but DID effects about 1-1.5% of the population. That may not sound like a lot, but other disorders that people commonly talk about are around the same number, and DID is actually more common than other commonly spoken about disorders.
For example, OCD (1%, though bare in mind diagnosis can be difficult as many people may have OCD symptoms but not realise it cos of how OCD is portrayed in media, so never seek help), 0.32-1% have schizophrenia diagnosis (number changes based on diagnostic criteria and other factors), 1% with BPD, 1% bipolar you see plenty of people discussing those mental health diagnosis' even if they're rare, and you're gonna see more of it on a video about mental illness than a regular one.
@@y09cuz they’re lying or delusional. There’s a huge community on tiktok of ppl faking DID and when someone on the internet says they have DID there’s like a 99% they’re faking it. DID is incredibly rare (some people would like you to think it isn’t but they’re using statistics and removing context, if you actually research it you’ll find out it is extremely rare) and requires extreme trauma, also the nature of the disorder is that you most likely don’t know you have it.
Oh yikes. Imagine if they made a character that supposed to be the stereotype of Autism.
Your art are so cute.
Oh god please no
As person with autism: OH GOD PLEASE DON'T
Dont give them ideas!
Considering this whole scheme comes from 4chan, it'd probably be fairly overweight in comparison with other characters, have some sort of obsession with chicken nuggets (aka "tendies") and would probably be a brony/pegasister or a furry. That's usually how the people in that imageboard portray people with autism.
NOOO DON'T LET THEM AAA
As someone with OCD, THANK YOU for discussing this. I’m crying from how happy I am...It is also extremely extremely offensive how what they call the disorder isn’t what it is called. but they describe it as ocd.
Okay! Old video but I wanna put my two cents into this.
The idea itself is okay, drawing the personification of YOUR disorder based on how YOU feel it. Like, I have two ocs who are the personal version of DID, which is a disorder I have. The twins are based entirely off of how I feel with this disorder and how I had to deal with its effects. I have another OC based upon my anxiety and in that, I based it entirely off of how I feel.
Again. This is a good idea for people who want to personify their symptoms and how they deal with it, but using stereotyped things for it is a HUGE no-no. And so is Shipping the disorders. Shipping characters WITH the disorders is okay, I suppose, but shipping the disorders is, as you and I have stated, is bad.
If anyone doesn't agree with what I said, that's okay! It's your opinion, and I will completely respect it.
I agree! I have adhd and some of my ocs have it! I have anxiety, depression, severe social anxiety (slowly becoming agoraphobia) so I make characters with them to show it and how I struggle with it and cope with it. They happen to have them, their lives don’t revolve around it.
Yess!! As long as you're doing it for positive reasons or awareness then its totally okay!!
Very true
I have characters that have mental illnesses/disorders
But putting stereotypes in them is very disgusting and should not be used
I have social anxiety so I decided to give one my (not really mine) character social anxiety
It just depends sometimes
I do it for awareness and also because of their past trauma
My life is just a huge disorder shipfest /hj
I was just thinking about this! I have many mental disorders/issues so I think it would be cool to draw them all
As someone with NPD. I don't think I am better than people. It makes me mad when I can't achieve something as well as other people and it makes me hate myself even more for that even tho there is no reason for it. I can't describe it that good.
yo !! i totally get that, im fairly sure i dont have it but i relate to you hardcore man, whenever i cant do someone as good as other people i completely beat myself up over it and my overall image of self just absolutely plummets - it feels like im drowning in frustration and feelings of 0 self-worth and its honestly such a nightmare
you got this though man !! stay strong, there are loads of us out here who believe in you !! ✨💪
also I don't have NPD but much like with APD these two 'terms' and disorders are so heavily thrown around online with strangers or people that using harmful stereotypes and representing them in such a way does just that of fully perpetrating ideas and negative views for others to continue uses these disorders as insults for people they just don't like/think have wronged them which really peeves me.
I have it too, I don't like having it, i get some bad comments about it.
@@islannnnnnnndndddndnd me too.
this
as a person who's been diagnosed with aspergers and high functioning autistic disorder ive had to endure my fair share of discrimination and flat out mental harm, i was diagnosed at the age of 12. My life didnt change on that day, ive been me this entire time, autistic or not. To see people associate mental disorders like mine with 'QuIrKy PhYsIcAl DeTaIlS' makes me question why humanity managed to evolve. Autism and other mental disorders doesnt change people, it makes us us. It can be hard to embrace that, i had my times where I questioned myself a lot about why i struggled so much with everything, only to then see other people use it as a physcial trait and just gloss over it like people dont struggle with it...it made me feel like i was garbage, like i would never be able to cope with my mental disorders, luckily therapy helped me out. Please, if youre reading this and feel the same way, i encourage you to take a step back and just think. Think about what youve accomplished and how you got this far.
nobody really asked for your life story.....
@@sovietnationalism5240 rude.
Thank you for saying it. As someone who also have asperger and adhd you put it perfectly.
Like I have been treated different because of them.
Just wanted to let you know as another autistic person Aspergers and high functioning autism is the same thing, Aspergers is an old term for it :)
Please do some research as to why the terms Aspergers and high functioning autism are harmful.
If they made a character with autism they would definitely be a white male teenager with glasses and a striped shirt who is super duper smart and nerdy and thinks they are better than everyone. Thinking about this stereotype makes me want to implode lol.
LITERALLY and the one with adhd has the whole rainbow kidcore outfit and the “Enid Sinclair” personality and is infantilized beyond recognition
@@yttrium5202 Oh god
man i miss when 4chan did sociopolitical activism instead of just trolling. like remember when they protested outside basically every "church" of scientology in the country? more of that please
There was never a golden age of 4chan lmao, you could never lurk without being exposed to people constantly spamming CP. It's always been a bad place for bad people
No, I dont remeber
Yeah but 4chan didnt do it because sociopolitical activism
They did it to piss off the scientology guys just because it was funny to them
4chan was and never will be about sociopolitical activism wtf
no that was also just trolling i think
@@1917yee Wait what? Posting CP will automatically get you IP banned. It's probably the only thing that 4chan is really good at regulating (probably because the jannies don't regulate anything else). If you want a website that's filled with CP, go look at Tumblr.
I am a person who struggles with OCD/OCPD and OH MY GOD this bugs me so much. I am a mess. My OCD genuinely affects my day to day life and prevents me from doing things that help me take care of my hygeine, organization, etc. My OCD manifests itself in very different ways from the stereotypical "OMG I'm so ORGANIZED, whenever I see a pencil out of line it bugs me SO MUCH I'M SO OCD!!!" And it's like, no, I am in physical pain until I do what my OCD tells me to. If I get a cut or scratch on one arm I have to physically restrain myself from doing the same thing on the other arm. It sucks and it is so misrepresented.
Hope you're better now
@@fishnetzach Ocd doesn't get better, it's a lifelong thing...
Mine is just constantly doing unusual shit habitually for strange reasons, OCD seems to vary ALOT more than people think
Hey (this is from someone with OCD) just letting you know OCD and OCPD are VERY different!!! You may know this I’m not sure I’m just clarifying because you put them next to each other, you may have both even I’m not sure but I’m just clarifying for people in the comments. And even people with OCD may be confused and think they have OCPD so I’m just trying to say this. I also have really really debilitating OCD and I empathize. It sucks
I have a friend with ocd and she has joked about the stereotypical stuff before, but we both know that it affects her deeper than that. As someone with adhd, the pain of the stereotypical portrayals of some of the more “benign” and “quirky” disorders gets under my skin. OCD is NOT a personality trait. A character can be portrayed as a neat freak without needing to have ocd. I have had Trichotillomania (3 years) and Dermatillomania (5 years). IT SUCKS. One imperfection on my skin can tip me off for hours. I’m permanently scarred and it’s my fault. BEING IN MENTAL TURMOIL IS NOT QUIRKY OR CUTE, IT IS HELL.
As someone with OCD, I’d like to add that part of the disorder includes reoccurring, intrusive thoughts. These thoughts are extremely disturbing and anxiety inducing for suffers of the disorder. The anxiety, pain, and stress caused from these intrusive thoughts is typically the catalyst for compulsions. I’m not trying to say that you explained the disorder incorrectly, all people with OCD experience it differently. And I’d like to thank you for touching on OCD. A lot of people think that it’s just some cute quirk where people are neat freaks. But it is actually a debilitating and endless cycle of pain and anxiety.
OCD and OCPD are different disorders.
@@kaywabindato167 The thumbnail labeled it as OCD. And in any case, people with the disorders may have similar experiences.
I was looking for a comment to say this.
i don't have OCD but the intrusive thoughts part is really something people forget. i had some really shitty thoughts like that , that basically just interfered with daily life and left me mostly useless for a whole month. i wish people talked more about it :(
i have ocd and i really hate it when people think its just that im clean. you'd think it wouldn't be called a disorder if it was just cleanliness
It feels very iffy to make characters off of mental disorders and ship them, it is very different making a character WITH a disorder and making A DISORDER a character. Thank for bringing this to light and making this video. It feels nice that there are creators out there like you! I hope you keep making videos like these :D
Man I am diagnosed with AVPD and the way they portrayed the character makes me incredibly sad. Like, that is literally what I'm afraid people will see me as.
So disgusting :/
i feel the EXACT same way, i literally started sh4k1ng and crying when i saw the design. what the hell were they thinking?!
As someone with sensory processing disorder, I'm actually glad they portrayed the archetype as an adult. Because it's more common in kids, it often gets passed over in adults. That being said, I found the design to be just... bad. It also doesn't change the rest of the harm this group has brought around. Not mentioned is the gendering of these disorders, which reinforces stereotypes even among doctors.
The OCPD one is terrible. The stereotype that all people with ocd are clean/organized is just incorrect. Though obsessive cleaning can be a symptom of ocd, that isn’t at all what it should be boiled down to. Many people with this disorder have debilitating intrusive thoughts and it’s just overall not something that should be generalized into a character, none of it should be. It’s the countryhumans thing all over again. People generalize other things that *absolutely shouldn’t* be generalized. It’s harmful and it perpetuates terrible stereotypes about people with these disorders.