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Guest bio: Elon Musk is CEO of X, xAI, SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and The Boring Company.
As someone involved in conflicts before, I can tell you that the sad tragedy is that those making decisions, for the rest of humankind, have never been exposed to the horrors of war, but simply to sitting behind a screen, enriching their pockets. Sadly, the military-industrial complex has way too many fingers in the pockets of so many politicians. Speak to a service member from any major Army, and they will tell you that they chose diplomacy before war. We know the effects.
Young men fighting young men in Wars made by old men talking and arguing with old men they know
I'm a combat veteran from OIF and OEF-A. Combat is the pinnacle of existence. I miss it badly.
I was in southern Germany during the Syrian refugee crisis when 1 million refugees crossed the southern border. What I can say about the situation is that it was clear these people had been significantly traumatized. There was a lot of violence and fear. It was around the time of the Paris bombing. What the west didn't see was all the smaller bombings, attacks at train stations, rapes. War has tertiary effects beyond the destruction of buildings & bases, it destroys the lives of all involved, especially the innocent. It radicalizes people and is self perpetuating. War is terrible and should be avoided if at all possible. I pray for more responsible leaders alas the ones we elect almost never leave their ivory towers and only think of their monetary gain. Something has to change.
There is a whole larger picture to immigration and I personally believe it is a globalist agenda. It makes no sense that countries in Europe recieve refugees from the middle east if you really think about it.
The reason there isnt world peace is because the main players dont want peace. If they wanted peace, it would be easier to accomplish than going to mars
Yeah..keep praying…that’s it!
afd for the win
My Grandfather was a bomber pilot for the RCAF in World war two , most of his friends died too at a very young age. He was lucky to survive doing raids over Germany and he never wanted to talk about it either . Great strong man but in no way did he want to ever relive the horrors that he witnessed. He only talked about it to other veterans who were there . That kind of shit haunts you forever. War is pain and horrific suffering and if youre lucky a quick death. Why are we still so stupid?
Elon is part of the military industrial complex, WASHINGTON - A $70 million contract the U.S. Space Force awarded to SpaceX for Starlink internet services includes “unique terms and conditions” not included in previous commercial contracts.
The MIC is comprised of the people that prod and poke for more war and conflicts in order to exclusively profit from it. What SpaceX is doing is no different than what Verizon, AT&T, and other telecommunication companies do as general service providers, none of which makes them a part of the MIC. Constantly claiming anyone or any company that has any contracts with the government as a part of the MIC is just as delusional as the witch hunters of the 1600s because almost everyone that does business in the US or with any US company will eventually be traced to interactions with the government.
A lot more than that.
Pretty sure he said he paid it back and earlier than expected too.
Elon is a humanitarian!!!!
There is nithing wrong with the military i dustrial complex. Unless you want chaos to spread around the globe.... Nice try anti american bot, nice try
If people knew more about history they'd be much more against war.
It shouldn't even require history to know how bad war is.
@@calgakispict3652 Most minds need a coherent existing prior example to understand something
People are very much against war. Leaders are not because they are not the ones fighting it. History knowledge doesn't change much in that regard.
Ukraine war would end in an instant if suddenly leaders were to be sent to the frontline, but they won't and that's the problem. That was the problem since always.
@@Lesminster There are lots of people who are pro war especially on that war. People who have never been in one or read about one
Honestly it has nothing to do with whether you agree with it or not, the questions are will we have to go to war or not. Wars have been happening since the beginning of time. War is never good. The meaning of the word tells you that lol there’s no question about it.
Elon gotta be lex's favorite person.
After Dan Carlin
I understand it. There's a bunch of guys in the US that spent time doing multiple tours in America's longest wars. So there's more than u think. Most who have always say we want to focus on our own house and stay out of foreign wars.
Thats what a military is supposed to do, protect its citizens. By having bases all over the place America is protecting its citizens. Its a small World now with ICBMs and stealth fighters and bombers on ALL sides now btw. The Chinese and Russians and everyone else has "stealth" jets . America has strategic bases all around the planet because it gives them a MASSIVE advantage over literally every other nation on Earth. For defensive purposes for their people and those close allies of them.Theyre not about to just give away that advantege.
Most of them pulled their own pins. No one in the filthy corrupt US government give a crap. Their pockets are being stuffed. To hell with humanity.
I’m hoping a Sentient AI would understand the destruction of the environment and waste of resources in the construction of military apparatus, as well as the destruction of the environment and resources in its application. Just as a practical matter (aside from the ethical considerations), it would do what it could to prevent war, not by force, but by disrupting supply chains, communications, and financial transactions that enable the military machines throughout the world.
Elon is avoiding the question. Lex asked him several times. Maybe spaceX is part of it all
You know nothing about answers
SpaceX is definitely a part of it, the only reason they exist is because of US government funding.
Yup he dodged that question like his life was dependent on it. He probably has buddies in the industry with lots of potential contracts. Billionaires are the biggest threat to peace when weapons are profitable.
Elon is very likable, but if he is the guy whos going to put chips in our brains....omg@@froggin-zp4nr
SpaceX is definitely part of it
He’s a military contractor!!!!
My father fought in WWII, entering in 1942 at age 17, one year of combat and one year in a Nazi prison camp. He was a around 85 lbs when he was liberated, and still managed to give life his best effort despite PTSD symptoms. He ultimately died somewhat prematurely due in part to the long term effects of severe malnutrition during his time in the prison camp. The downstream effects of the war negatively impacted my family in many ways. He'd be appalled at what is going our military has been doing around the world the past 30 years, and what is happening at home in the country he fought for.
Was really hoping he would have talked more about the actual military industrial complex especially considering he is a part of it ! The names that Lex puts on the videos are often misleading.
Sure. Wars before nukes were actually alot worse than since their arrival.
But its not polite to speak such truth in some circles.
Tread lightly, and carry a BIG stick.
They are all hypocrits and always deflect the real current issues!
I think it was Plato who said that it's easy to get men to go to war but it's difficult to get men to go *back* to war.
Plato said ; Only the dead have seen the end of war. MacArthur actually quoted it in the end of his book in Reminiscences
@@eribelly1 That one is often attributed to Plato, but it was actually George Santayana.
@@herknorth8691 I found that Plato’s quote has often been misattributed to George Santayana, demonstrating its enduring resonance. It’s quoted as Plato in MacArthur’s autobiography. Im sure they both said it since they’re both philosophers. If should ask my Greek friends if they can read old Plato writings. I think it was about the Spartans . Interesting he said it too they both lived in the same time .
“Civilization is transmissive. We are always one generation away from the dark ages.”
- Historian William Durant
Who pulled out the US of the nuclear treat?
Thank you 🙏 💖💖💖
As a combat vet. You couldn’t pay me all the money in the world to go back.
If I can ask, did you really think you were defending your people or doing something righteous in fighting in the US army?
Fun Fact: It was Russia who saved The Union during the American Civil War as they sent their Navy to San Francisco and New York when England and France were just about to enter the war on the side of the Confederates since London created the Confederates. France was already in Mexico making a spear head movement to resupply the Confederates and to open up a Pacific Theatre and to create a port in California. England already amassed 11,000 troops and growing stationed at their Northern Confederacies border now called Canada ready to open a Northern Theatre to divert Union troops away from their Southern Confederacy then to attack The Unions naval blockade. The Union would have been completely destroyed and annexed by those two great powers leaving the Confederates to exist as either a puppet state of London or to be fully brought back into the fold of the British Empire.
London was already courting (threatening/bribing) other countries to get involved like Spain while Russia was in talks with Prussia to ally with incase London was to intervene.
Seeing all of this Tsar Alexander II wrote a letter to Queen Victoria saying “If you enter in this war it will be a casus belli for all out war with the Russian Empire”. The stage was set for the 1st World War and Russia stopped it.
There is also a memorial in San Francisco for the
hundreds of Russian sailors who came off their Asiatic fleet ships that died while helping the city put out a fire that threatened to lay waste to it during the War.
The Russian fleet also threatened to Shell Australian ports along with other British Pacific Colonies if Britain aided the Confederates. A confederate war ship spent a lot of time in Australian waters and was supported by the Australian public, some even signing on as crew members. This Confederate war ship laid waist to the US Pacific whaling fleet and is reported to have fired the last shot in the war
Russia also helped Thailand (Kingdom of Siam) maintain its sovereignty from being completely Partitioned/Annexed from the British and French around the same time. The very word Thai (ไทย) means 'free man' in the Thai language which is partially to thank to the Russians as they might have ended up being a colony or part of another country/colony if not for their intervention.
Neither fun nor fact.
Britain man bad.
@@autoclearanceuk7191 yes please go on.
The US has had wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in recrnt memory. We have vets who understand war who are still in fighting age.
Maybe a few soldiers and families understand, but those wars were pretty one-sided, the general American population most likely doesn’t understand. The glorification of violence in movies doesn't help. If movies showed how it really was, no one would watch them.
@@davycrockett8886 Oh yeah, then the point is valid.
War is a pretty stupid fucking game. A game we are wired to play at some point. Im know I am personally wired for violence, though I am civil.
Yeah I don’t think it’s really the same as world war 2. Us outnumbered them in every way, air strikes, artillery, drones etc. not like trench warfare. There’s definitely some that have seen shit though
He isnt talking about the military industrial complex , its the supply chain in your phones components
Any investment in space would be better an investment than in traditional military spending since space potentially would provide infinite dividend in resource.
Like how musk completely avoided talking about the military industrial complex. He probably has skin in the game himself for a company working on AI, satellite arrays and rockets would very profitable in the future. Kinda hard to improves the lives of people while selling the means to destroy them.
Correct, all hypocrites always deflecting and NOT answering the real questions / issues!!!
He’s good at telling you a story but not actually answering the question.
Enlighten us. You give it a go. Fool.
If life was permanent, it would not last for others. The difference is no different. Unfortunately, wars ou tperform peace because most of those who have decision-making power in the world are evil. Life is short and not worth it.
The idea of dearming is beautiful and also ignorantly naive. The moment one country steps down, other steps in. This is inevitable and there is zero chances of avoiding it, only delaing. Also, there is constant struggle for domination. Constant. End of cold war ended nothing. Russia never stopped chasing it's imperialistic goals. China stepped in with theirs. Every country that has resources to aspire to at least weaken the leader or join forces to abolish the leader are going to try at some point. It is a fact. We have airplanes, nuclear power and flying to space, but we are still the same descendants of monkeys. thouse couple thousands years that passed between us throwing rocks and lobbing laser guided bombs with pinpoint precision haven't changed who we are deeply in our cores. Tribal animals driven by instincts and constantly desiring to be on the top if only conditions allow it.
I mean hierarchical structures are built into the physics of the universe, otherwise there would be no solar systems, no Earth, and no life.
Russia had its own problems with itself for a long while. Most local wars in the world are induced by the USA, if not all of them.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx There is always someone who wants more than they have. The question is whose imperialism is more digestible. From post-soviet country citizen's perspective, definitely american.
Weapon companies shouldn't be allowed on the sharemarket
There's enough military personnel with ptsd from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. That I hope people understand war is very destructive
"There are times when one tragedy, one crime tells us how a whole system works behind its democratic facade and helps us to understand how much of the world is run for the benefit of the powerful and how governments lie. To understand the catastrophe of Iraq [and Palestine], and all the other Iraqs along imperial history's trail of blood and tears, one need look no further than Diego Garcia." The Guardian, Sat 2 Oct 2004, John Pilger
Some of us Elon actually have combat experience in the Middle East, stop be a smug a$$hat, about war...You may not know anything about War/combat but far too many of us US Veterans do..
As you said SOME the vast majority don't. You are going to be surprised by how many support further escalation more weapons and funding.
Dealing with a bunch of iraqees and their rusty AKs while having a streamload of $$$, modern equipment and airsupport is more of a police work than actual combat. Not even comparable to the horrors of Ukraine or Vietnam, let alone WW2.
I really hope not, but...Thank you for the response.
Fighting useless wars for 20 years in the middle east gives american veterans a veto on war preception.
Your leadership have no issue with war, that's a fact and that's what he is talking about.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but… not only are military members a tiny percentage of the US population, but as someone else said already, plenty of military members clearly don’t understand the horrors enough to be against it.
What’s the con cern?
Keep your wits about you.
Elon missed the mark on this one, Speical Operations Forces and Infantry NCOs have more combat experience with multiple tours at varying intensities than any other time in history. You should probably interview people in this career field than a business man than you like.
How many people in the US understand war? How about the millions of Americans who served in combat operations for 20 years overseas losing limbs and friends? I think there are plenty of people who understand tragedies of war. Thats not who sits in DC.
Different war entirely. US was fighting Iraq, they outnumbered them and the way they fight is completely different. Calling air strikes, drones etc. not saying they haven’t seen horrors of war but it’s nothing compared to ww2
Pres. Eisenhower a 5 star General warn the nation of the arms industry.
War is the way life breathes, of which we are all just a part ... and what could be better than being a part of life ... without this breath there would be no life ...
Yes, not many people "remember" II WW but grandchildren REMEMBER their grandpatents memories..... Yes....."local....".
Somebody said his pop pop snitched
That’s a disappointing take. This whole “military industrial complex” thing is pretty low resolution. Can you imagine that some people believe that one of the surest way to prevent war is by making it known there is a serious cost to attacking the weak and innocent? So, if someone takes an aggressive posture, we’re expected to appease every time and offer a back massage? That would be incredibly ineffective.
Preppers are like this, clueless
When Einstein was asked how world war three would be fought he said he didn't know, but that world war four would be fought with sticks and stones. (Probably because that's all that would be left.
I had an uncle who served in the US Army military intelligence in North Africa. And my dad was in the 8th Air Corps stationed in England.
The future is always uncertain
Those that ride between the dimensions, shut down the silos here and abroad, to make a point. Enough wrinkles in existence to contend with from our excursions. Above, Below, and Beyond…
Interesting Grok say to Elon Musk what really need in this world?
The irony of possessing nuclear weapons is that nobody dares using them (nor should they, and 'they' know about it). All it takes is just a single one to ignite a chain reaction.
Is there really anyone who genuinely believes for example that if Russia was to use a "low yield tactical nuke" in Ukraine that it would stop there? Just one, that's it; then people go "OMG" but then nothing, it was just one and that's it? Nope. It wouldn't stop there. If say India does the same in a 'local conflict' against Pakistan, you think it would stop there? If North Korea fires a nuke at a US base in the Pacific, or at Japan (there's a big US base there), you think it would stop there?
The dangers are always that 'others' would step in, would intervene and "help". It would be a complete collapse of civilization as we know it, and it would probably just take 2 or 3 days max.
Why does Elon think Nuclear war is unlikely?
he knows about Bigfoot
I love how Musk can talk about every single problem but can’t talk about the biggest problem that he could easily solve but he must be scared of someone. Helping everybody out financially so nobody has to worry and steeds and kill themselves over money troubles.
Why would he do that what's your point?
its called net zero.. going back to the stoneage
ITS THE OLD STORY JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY TO SEE WHO PROFITS FROM WAR BY MAKING MORE WEAPONS THAN INFRASTRUCTURE
i'd had a surgery yesterday ....and I don't want even to imagine what means to see choped bodyes .... UK don't have at least 1 nurse to clean my cut, from blood at 2 days after surgery ....I couldn't buy H2O2 in any pharmacy around ,,,.....
War is possible only because of the “State.”
Even Chimps go to war.
This conversation has a much shorter version... karma is a bitch lol
Musk is rubbing on on Lex, making him look like scumbag for hanging out together. MIT's rep riding on this creep's show.
I understand war darlinks,, i live in east ukraine
No Elon there are plenty alive today. I was in Iraq in 04 there is no romance no joy nothing good about war. Nothing good about being in some foreign country that you have no connection with. Every day you pray you don’t die in some shit street covered in dirt that isn’t yours. I was stationed in LSA anaconda in Balad. Detached from the 18th Airborne to the 484 Transportation company. I was the active duty Liason for them they were reservists. And iEd would hit convoys left and right. No it sucks. Plenty of us remember
What do you want to hear ? He's a millitary contractor himself. If he wasn't, he would end up in Guantanamo, with not one cent left on his bank account. It's called 'national security". He is not even a born american. Only wondering, how detailed they explained the protocol. 🚀🏴☠️
TELLING GOOD FROM EVIL CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS WHATS PERSON DID FOR PAST 5-10 YEARS
Do it do it do it
boring. platitudes
Elon is just brilliant with his views… wise and humble in his not knowing as welcome in his projections
So we should coward and allow pooh-tin to run rampart???
Imagine if Elon’s grandpa would have been killed and Elon would have never been born
Whoa, STOP!
🫡
Remember when this channel was credible and had credible guests?
Good times.
What Musk is saying "I'd happily sacrifice Ukraine so I can sleep better at night"
Absolutely agree, minding our own business is never been American priority.
Yes US has destroyed so many countries never cared about its population
Another day, another interview where Lex simps out hard for an anti-Semite.
Oy vey!
How is Elon an anti-semite?
Free palestine.