@@snipy9317 dude thinking about that song with the debris and bodies still clung to Poseidon. Just such a chilling "you should have died that day" feel
I love the implications of Poseidon's cyclops necklace at 0:50 because it implies he either A. wears it all the time or B. doesn't but SPECIFICALLY chose to wear it before facing Odysseus to angrily make a point
And I love both scenarios-either Poseidon always carries a symbol of his son, or he dressed up to kill Odysseus. "...And I'm going to hold THIS necklace up when I mention my boy..."
I freaking love the depiction of this god. The crew isn't standing around while Posidon is monologuing. He's throwing his weight around with the water, and the depictions of what he's in control over. They're in HIS element, at the mercy of HIS creations. While the whole time they're fighting against it. He's depicted beautifully here. He's angry and upset and it really shows because he's not beating and targetting on Odysseus like in other animations, he's targeting everyone and anything that's in his waters without a second thought. This is my favorite animatic of Posidon so far.
Thank youu!!! I really love animating fx so this song was a perfect chance to get to show the power of Poseidon and how the boats are one wave away from destruction at any point
Fully agreed. I like the choice to depict the Gods as giants instead of demons that are slightly taller or just as tall as the mortals they are intimidating / playing with. It enforces the idea that they are literally looking down on the mortals - even the god of the seas beneath their ships.
oh yea 100% agree. feel like if you combine the designs a bit with other things then you could have one fuck of a series. this is my favorite adepiction of the gods. the get in the water by willows has the genius idea of poseidon being a cyclops beneath his exterior, taking on that form at maximum rage. can't remember the exact name but there is one for polyphemous that is just 'chef's kiss' when it comes to the cyclops design and demeanor. immense, monstrous, lanky... but human, mourning the death of a beloved pet.
One thing I really like about this song is about how it embraces the cultural context of the story it's adapting. Poseiden's rage at them not killing his son wouldn't make much sense to modern person in our culture, but from the perspective of an honor based culture like Ancient Greece, it makes total sense. In most ancient cultures, they took the adage of "dying honorably is better than living dishonorably" very seriously. In these cultures, sparing someone's life after a battle wasn't seen as an act of mercy, but an insult as you are denying them an honorable death and forcing them to live under the sting of defeat. For Oddysseus to not only deny Polythemus an honorable death of getting killed in battle against a clever enemy, but to also force him to live blind and knowing exactly how Oddysseus tricked him, yeah, an ancient person wouldn't consider that mercy, but one of the grossest and cruelest ways you could insult someone.
THANK YOU. As much as I love EPIC, this aspect always somehow escaped me (why is Poseidon so pissed off about Ody leaving Polyphemus alive) and now it makes so much sense.
I agree plus this song pays attention of the fact that the guy is not apologizing. He’s just trying to convince me not to attack them by saying well we didn’t do anything wrong, but I’d never ask for an explanation. All he asked for was apology whether they were right or not was irrelevant they didn’t even say sorry when he asked and that’s one of the things Posiden sed he hated, his self righteousness and that as long as he thinks he’s right he doesn’t say sorry even though he caused pain but still claims to be a good person
It's also worth pointing out that Poseidon favored the Greeks during the Trojan War, and they made sacrifices to him for safe travels. He didn't fuck with Odysseus until he left his son alive instead of ending him.
That is certainly an entirely unwarranted amount of water horses, and I for one am all for it. That aside, I love how the gods never bother lowering themselves to human stature, they are always towering above, unyielding and unflinching.
There are a criminal amount of water horses in this! There were more in the initial pass but it was starting to be a little to much horse and not enough water lol
I love how pissed Poseidon is the entire time. Most of the other animatics show him as more mocking or disdainful of Odysseus, but here he is enraged from the disrespect Odysseus and his crew have shown him.
@@nealillustrator hogwash. He's the god of the ocean horses and earthquakes and they aren't on land so let them water horses prance and drag the sailors to there deaths.
I love on how compared to Zeus dramatically revealing himself from the clouds, Poseidon just claws his way out the water like feral animal. That, along with his "prosthetic arm" makes for fantastic contrast compared to his brother. Well done Neal! Well done!
Honestly the depiction of his entrance really is great, you can tell out the gate he's beyond pissed and is already near the point of no forgiveness, then ody makes excuses instead of apologizing and we'll that line is crossed
God, yes, THIS. Zeus is the stoic King Of The Gods, he's their composed leader, nothing and no one can give him orders, and he's much more composed as the bastion of civilization. He's calm and in his element, his word is law, and he knows that he'll be obeyed no matter what. Meanwhile Poseidon is the wild King Of The Oceans, he's the god of tempests and storm surges and 70% of the planet's surface. He's a terrifying force of nature that must be both feared and respected, because you cannot bargain with the ocean, you cannot plea with a creature born of wild waters.
@@marymccann3500 one of the reasons Poseidon is so dangerous to anger is because his mood shifts like the seas, anything can set him off and everyone knows an angry sea is not something you wanna be anywhere near
@@Shadowblader98 It doesn't actually matter if Odysseus "makes excuses", Poseidon was never going to spare him in the first place, that's the essence of "ruthlessness"! The reason he asks him to apologize is so he can show him that mercy is not an option in their world. It's a taunt, a way to strip him of all his dignity before inflicting the final blow. "Look at you, you begged me and your men still died. Did you learn your lesson?" That's why the line he says directly after Ody's apology is so important. Odysseus isn't being hopeful, he's being naive in thinking that after pissing off a god, a simple apology would fix everything. He's teaching him to be ruthless by showing him the consequences of his... sentimentality, as Athena puts it.
The fact that Poseidon is an amputee and Odysseus *blinded* his son, giving him a disability as well? Makes his wrath more understandable, and the line you should have just killed him and avoided this. Poseidon knows how hard it is to live with a disability
And his own disability is "easier" to naviguate thank to his control over water, which allow him to create a limb to replace the one he lacks (just like we see him do in the animation). How do you want to fix the blind eye of a cyclop ? It is true that for his son, it is even more severe than for Poseidon himself, and he likely can acknowledge this. Plus, we don't know if Poseidon was disable for all his life or not. I saw people mentionning maybe this version lost his arm either due to being eaten by Chronos (either the arm was digested or it was cut off by the teeth because he tried to fight back). In which case, he was basically disabled for all his life. or he lost it in battle during Gigantomachia. In which case, he became disabled and had to adapt to it, so he has experienced some of the hardship his son will face. I like the Chronos idea more because it would mean all the other siblings except Zeus would have scars, especially Hestia and Hades, as they are the first and second child respectively. Plus, in this time period, I doubt there would be a lot of aid for the blind, especially adapted to the height of a cyclop... So, in a way, killing him would have been merciful toward both him and the crew.
@orianefaton1885 I like this idea, I can see Hades shrouding himself like Morgoth in the Underworld but underneath he is only a scarred man that does not any but his wife to see his pain while with Hestia, she had become Fire in flesh and body, her humanoid form too damaged so she had decided to become The Goddess of Fire alone and nothing else
I also think it's ironic in the song that Odysseus says they only hurt him to "disarm" him. I have a feeling that pissed off this version of Poseidon just a little bit more.
I kinda love how Odysseus reach out to the people when they are hit with the wave. Few animatics have pictured Poseidon this violent like that in their animatic and I love it! edit: made a typo on odysseus's name
Im working hard to portray Odysseus as a man who cares for his crew deeply and is doing everything in his power to set them up for successes but something always stops him
I love 3:55 where Odysseus sees the wind bag, gets a smile, and LEAPS INTO THE WATER to grab it- then Eurylochus reaching out to catch Odysseus?? AMAZING. and the final shot of Poseidon with the shipwrecks in his hair is so intimidating !!
I'm sorry but the way you drew the hand at 0:10 SLAMMING down is such a good scene it's SO HARD to change the camera angle in an ANIMATION while making it so fluent ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
I love the way that Odysseus and Eurlychus actually feel like good friends who trust and care about each other!!! Especially in light of thunder saga events. It’s so nice/heartbreaking to see them help and protect one another
I love how you can tell in the facial shapes that Zeus and Poseidon are brothers. I’d be really curious to see what your depiction of Hades would look like
The sheer venomous disdain on Poseidon’s face, and the way he’s searching the fleet for Odysseus, like he doesn’t know which one of these land-dwelling flyspecks is the one he’s trying to specifically drown, that was good.
@@shadowcat9672Probably, and to see who's stupid enough to actually think an apology would work. Because that's the same idiot to give someone their name and address after blinding a guy but letting him live😂
I like the idea that until he speaks, Poseidon DOESN'T KNOW who Odysseus is, he just knows he is one of these "worms", maybe you, or you, or personally you!
@@igorgracchia5788 I love this! I also think that his son gave him like a brief description of what he looks like, but since most of them look similar, P was like “I KNOW ITS ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES!”😂
I imagine he only targeted Odysseus after the man once again, revealed himself; while contradicting whatever Poseidon's son had explained prior. That guy just failed 3 chances to understand what the lesson was.
Usually in Ruthlessness animatics Poseidon smiles more and is more malicious focusing on Odysseus. Here, he's frowning the entire time in a way showing he's genuinely upset about Polyphemus and is serious about his words. It's a new take but I like it. Edit: ALSO THE DETAILED SIDE CHARACTERS. Showing that they're real people who respected Odysseus and were scared for their lives :D
@nealillustrator honestly a fantastic choice. I've never been a big fan of poseidon "enjoying" this( I don't know what better word choice to use) because this isn't fun for him. Odysseus hurt his son. Worse than that, Odysseus is trying to justify what he did, not apologize. This animatic rocks, keep up the great work! 👍
It fit really well with how posidon is depicted in the Odyssey itself. Extremely dangerous but also stern and honest and interestingly as fair. In the episode when the story of ares and Aphrodite cheating is told (yes, that's a passage from the Odyssey) Poseidon is one of the few people that does not make fun of Hephaestos but also tells him to let his wife and brother free from the chains he literally cought them cheating in. He presumably does this to stop the public humiliation of Hephaestos but also the punishment Ares and Aphrodite. That this story is even part of the Odyssey kinda shows, that while Poseidon may be the antagonist of the story, he is not "evil"
My favorite parts of this animatic (in no particular order): - how Poseidon's pointed beard shape mimics the shape of a fish fin similar to how Zeus' beard in Thunderbringer looks like it's made of storm clouds - how all of his expressions the whole song long really convey that this is a father who is enraged that not only did someone blind his son but they then told his son their name as they sailed off while boasting about how they showed his son mercy. It's not a slow cold rage or almost playfully malicious rage that most animatics do. No, Poseidon is *pissed* and just like the ocean, there's very little that can stop him once he's on a roll - how the wave that collides with Odysseus' ship during the line of "you were far too nice" is shaped like a cyclops which we first see Odysseus' horror of seeing moments before it actually is seen by us during the line "But nooo" - the mirrored scenes of Odysseus catching Eurylochus when Eurylochus falls off the ship and then Eurylochus catching Odysseus so that he doesn't get blown away from the ship by the wind bag - The crew basically being like "Hoe don't do it... oh my gawd" when Odysseus is "apologizing" to Poseidon for hurting Polyphemus - I know I said it before but I think the contempt on Poseidon's face when he says "The line between naïveté and hopefulness is almost invisible" deserves a special mention like holy fuck - Mmmmm teleporting water arm because he is *literally* the ocean itself is such a tasty visual and display of not only Poseidon's might but also a reminder *that there is nowhere Odysseus can go that he can't follow as long as Odysseus is at sea* - Odysseus's crew having to hold him back and keep him from jumping overboard when Poseidon's decimating his crew is *chef's kiss* - The slow pan downwards so we can see not just the destruction above but the devastation below with the words "when does a ripple become a tidal wave?/when does a man become a monster" really sets things up for when they're in the Underworld and Odysseus is confronted by the souls of his men that died under his command - Poseidon's expression is full on mocking Odysseus by echoing his words that he spoke to Polyphemus right back at him: "I am your darkest moment" - The moment of realization and hope as Odysseus spies the wind bag and the manic grin as Poseidon asks for his last words and he bursts out "ALL I HAVE TO DO IS OPEN THIS BAG!" before leaping overboard to do just that - Odysseus pensively looking at the ground as his remaining crew celebrates the fact that they're alive, before looking out to sea to see Poseidon seething in the distance and once again throwing Odysseus' words back into his face: "Remember me..." .... so yeah I really loved this animatic lol
You hit everything I wanted to say as well!! I also esp like how Poseidon’s hair is straight but bends and moves like stream of water. And also how Poseidon’s physique is like a swimmers with built shoulders and lats but slimmer waist.
@@heyoitsollie Yeah and compare that to how the animatic creator made Zeus in Thunderbringer who was built like a javelin thrower with thick arm muscles perfect for throwing his lighning bolts!
1:28 The way Eurylochus was the only one onscreen when he said "A greek who reeks of false righteousness" LIKE GYATDAYUMM BRO THIS IS ART IN MORE WAYS THAN THE IMMACULATE ANIMATION.
EASILY the best/most seemless way I've seen any animator visualize the "all I gotta do is open this bag" sudden shift. The concept of the bag getting lost actual makes so much sense
I like the prosthetic arm design for Poseidon. I like to think it’s because he was partially digested by Kronos when he and his other siblings were in Kronos’ stomach. Also him being angry and temperamental like the tides is just perfect!!!
I had the same thought and that all his other siblings who were eaten having a part missing with hades and hestia missing the most as they were their longest
My three favorite things from this animatic. 1) Poseidon pulling himself out of the sea looks so aggressive and powerful, it fits really well. 2) The waves taking the form of horses AND POLYPHEMUS was a very nice touch. 3) The looks of blatant hostility and anger on Poseidon’s face are really well done.
My favourite detail is the eye pendant. Bc personally I can see it as either a think Polythemus made as a child for Poseidon or a pendant Poseidon made and wears our of mourning over his son's death
I love how personified the crew is, a lot of the time I feel like they’re just drawn as a group of unimportant and nondescript bodies, but you really brought them to light and made us remember that they’re people who just want to get home as much as Odysseus and Eurylocus are
I LOVE HOW FURIOUS HE IS: My favorite shot is when the camera is circling him as he makes a whirlpool. THIS IS SUCH A COMPLEX ANIMATIC AND I THINK IT REALLY IS YOUR STRONGEST WORK
I LOVE this Poseidon! In lots of animatics he comes off as creepy or sinister, and your version is definitely intimidating, but this Poseidon doesn't look like he's going to be subtle or manipulative, which is perfect because he's not that kind of god. This Poseidon is pissed off and is planning to beat the shit out of some arrogant mortals, and all he needs is brute force to do it. He doesn't even look like he's bothering to talk directly to Odysseus, because why would he care if some puny king is listening to what he's saying? This Poseidon is uncaring, powerful, and deadly, just like the ocean. You knocked it out of the park!
THANK YOU! I was really going for the vibe of “pissed off metalhead dad” over anything else. He is there to get revenge and teach a lesson to not mess with him
I love the direction you took with this. All the other animatics have made it a bit more personal, with Odysseus and co quaking in fear as Poseidon yells at them, but here they're just trying to survive the fact that a god near them is angry! Like, it makes the environment around them dangerous whether Poseidon is directly attacking them or not. So cool. Also, Poseidon just looks a lot more pissed. Other people have him either resigned or boiling with tranquil fury, but this guy is out for blood and his face shows it.
Thank you! There are a lot of fantastic takes on Poseidon but I really wanted to focus on him being pissed about what happened to his son. Someone hurt his kid and everyone is gonna pay
@@nealillustrator i like the small detail of Euriloclies face flashing with concern when Ody chooses to "apologize" by trying to justify the actions they took, honestly all he probably had to do was sincerely apologise and realize that posidon doesn't care why they did it, but the pain and anguish it caused
@@olivermadsen6405The Greek word apologia (ἀπολογία) means "speaking in defense" and is derived from the prefix apo-, which means "away from," and the word logia, which comes from the Greek word lógos, meaning "speech". In Latin, apologia is translated as apology You, in ancient Greece, are supposed to explain yourself. The harm and hurt is already done. Now you must be sincere in your apologia & hope the one you wronged accepted it. If not? Well Poseidon showed you. So in reality Odysseus was doing it the right way. This is ANCIENT GREECE. We shouldn't look at it by a modern day definition.
@@olivermadsen6405 Nah, especially in EPIC it is clear that no matter what Odysseus says there, Poseidon will still strike him down. "Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves." "The line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible." It feels a lot like Poseidon giving him a chance to accept what he is trying to teach him. Poseidon doesn't really care about his children much, the reason he even does this for Polyphemus is that he gives his children wishes to make up for the fact that he is never there as a father, and this was his wish.
I. LOVE. the opening where Poseidon's hand reaches up and then grabs the water to pull himself up while holding the water LIKE ITS FREAKING SOLID. That physics breaking instant right in the beginning just sets up how out of their league Odysseus and his fleet are.
Love when Odysseus was giving his “apology” and Eurylochus is just like “dude you’re not even apologizing tf are you doing”. Idk if that’s what you were going for but I think that’s cool, amazing job Neal!
Ody really thought he could get away with that half-hearted attempt when they all know he didn't regret a thing. To bad Poseidon ain't accepting that excuse as wasn't even a true I'm sorry.
@@AyameFyuuWe should not forget, that Odysseus has been awake for 9 days straight at this point (with maybe a few hours of sleep right before they opened the bag). He was definitely not thinking straight.
To be honest, Poseidon is telling him the whole song about the virtue of FINISHING THE DAMN JOB. Sparing him after an apology would defeat the whole point, because he was not going to show "mercy" as Odysseus did.
@@g.poupin1700 True, I knew that, but it’s still interesting how Odysseus has so much pride that he’s making excuses to a god instead of apologizing. Even if it doesn’t matter, his men probably don’t know that so they’re just like “bro what are you on rn”
It’s also confirms to Poseidon that *everyone* has to die. He only knew Odysseus’ name from the cyclops but Odysseus’ vain attempt at an apology was “WE meant no harm, WE only hurt him…” damning the entire fleet along with him
I love the way Poseidons arm just bursts from the ocean and his other is literally the ocean. I also love the contrast between Zeus and Poseidon. Zeus was enjoying attacking them. However, Poseidon was just pissed off, he was less enjoying the fight and more just avenging his son. He even tried to give them a chance to live by just asking for a simple apology.(Also Poseidon literally just asked Odysseus to apologize and he did EVERYTHING but that. All he did was make excuses😂)
He shouldve apologized regardless, but I do want to point out that the chances of it saving any of them were slim to none. Poseidon made his stance on mercy horrifically clear throughout this song
@@bluebay1031 in fairness, he said that ruthlessness itself is a mercy, and that he had no more mercy at that time. Hard to read what that means for if he would accept a real apology or not, although we see fairly clearly his response to an apology that roughly translates to not apologizing, and saying "if I could blind you and run away too, then I would in a heartbeat."
@@theendersmirk5851 I feel that if Odysseus had made a sincere apology, no excuses or did explain why but followed it up with said apology and mean every word of it, especially if he had, had second thoughts for leaving the cyclops blind and wounded, not in fear but guilt. Poseidon may consider it, but would still need to make an example so may not have claimed as many of Odysseus' men so a couple boats remained. Or if he does smash them all, but in a dark twist of "mercy," allows Odyssyues a chance to try and save as many of his men from drowning, but adds a time-limit of how many he can save before he needs to flee or risk losing the rest of his men.
@@blackstarlight17I’ve been thinking about this, what if pos did it to see if Ody would actually apologize, as people have said mercy is ruthlessness, curious what would’ve happened if ody didn’t apologize, and instead sorta played the villain pos wanted him to be. Just what i’ve been thinking about, because I don’t think ANY apology would’ve done him justice.
The fact that Odysseus was actively holding onto the bag/looking for it while Poseidon wrecked everything around him is such a great nod to his cunning. And it's amazing how you focused on the men trying to survive a sea tempest, because that is ultimately how Poseidon's wrath manifests. I love everything about this ❤
I got to say I love how non-apologetic Odysseus actually is in the scene lol like his “apology” isn’t even an apology at all, in fact it’s the exact opposite, he’s basically telling Poseidon to his face. “well we didn’t want to hurt your kid and didn’t feel great doing it, but I’m not sorry we did it because I wanted to get out of there“ and I think that’s such an amazing detail because it brings into question if Poseidon in the next line “ the line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible“ makes you wonder if he’s talking about Odysseus being hopeful Poseidon was actually going to let him go or if he’s talking about himself for being naïve and hopeful that Odysseus would actually own up to his shit and apologize for crippling his son
I always thought it was Poseidon saying "Apologize for my son's pain" but Odysseus was also known for his hubris (or pride, I think) so instead he tried to veer the subject into "We did what we had to, to survive." Instead of a genuine apology.
@@eepy_dove it's a habit that you can see throughout the entire musical. when he goes to drop the infant, he doesn't apologize for what he's doing. at no point does he say "i'm sorry". he makes the understandable excuse that if he doesn't do this then his kingdom and all he loves will perish, but at no point does he apologize for having to do it. he only begs for forgiveness, which is not the same. he does it with Polyphemus as well. after killing the sheep, Odysseus fails to apologize, and even tries to sweep the dead sheep under the rug, "no bloodshed in here today". he immediately going into bargaining. it's fascinating to watch him throughout the entire musical. not once does he apologize, not even when- (SPOILER FOR THUNDER SAGA) - he sacrifices his men to Scylla. not once does he apologize to the rest of his crew in Mutiny. in fact, Eurylochus is the first to apologize in the entire musical, and is immediately rewarded with Ody trying to make him a sacrifice.
It's ironic that Posiedon is shaming Odysseus for being unable to finish the job when that was ultimately Posiedon's downfall. He spent too long relishing a victory that hadn't happened yet, even giving Odysseus enough time to get that bag.
I mean, sure, in this exact moment. But Odysseus is also on an ocean voyage, heading back to a port city which he calls home, and Poseidon is the King of the Oceans. He can catch him at literally any time. And mild spoilers if you don't know; He does. Literally the moment he arrives back on shore in Ithica, Poseidon appears and tells him to get back in the ocean, or he will destroy the entire city. Poseidon won the moment Athena was no longer protecting him. And nothing that Odysseus could do, would really change that.
The whole thing felt so alive, the men trying desperately to survive, the god being absolutely pissed as he wrecks them despite not really needing to, the aftermath of the destruction carried in his hair at the end, all of it is just Chef's kiss!
Something I don't really see being mentioned but that I really enjoy is how in this depiction Poseidon's hair shifts between looking like normal hair and back into literal waters when he is in use of his powers! That's a really cool detail, like how his hair falls down at 2:22 when he demands an apology. Also I can't tell of Odysseus' smile at the end of his apology is desperation or him thinking he's gotten himself out of trouble again this time.
I love the detail of the wind bag throughout the animatic. Trying to grab it, floating among everything, with Odysseus finally seeing it and cutting it open. Chef’s kiss.
I love how you used the horses to show the force and strength behind the water's impact. Its a little hard to visualize the force of water until you see it impact something, and even then it (in most animation media) doesn't feel correct. so to show the force behind it you go "hey, you know horses? you know how they are huge and fast and mostly muscle? yea well imagine if a herd of them were running full speed and aimed straight at your skull."
@@bellehogel8665 if I remember correctly (granted, 20 year old me is getting this info from my 12 year old Percy Jackson addicted self, so take it with a grain of salt) the horse was actually Big P’s signature animal. Either Horses or Hippocampi, and one of those doesn’t exist so I’m gonna assume the horse
@@Atomic0534v2 To lean further, Pegasus if I remember right is a child of Poseidon, more precisely, born from Medusa. And, yes, the horse is his main animal symbol, in greek mythology. (he even had a kid whose only really special trait was that he was freaking good with horses XD)
The way he jumps in the water and opens the bag while he's in there just so he can look so freaking cool getting back into the ship is just FULL of the exaggerated swagger of a Greek king
This animatic had a lot of really good details. Poseidon forming the water into a image of his son, the Cyclops. All of Odysseus's men lending a hand to help hold the rope, reinforcing the fact that he needs their strength to survive making the soon-to-be destruction that much worse. Also super unsafe but Odysseus walking the broken mast kind of like walking the plank to put himself out there and apologize in hopes of saving his crew helps show his selflessness. I always thought that the encounter versus Poseidon and Zeus two sides of the same coin, and keeping that in mind all of these moments here make the ones in the Zeus encounter that much more tragic. Selflessness versus selfishness and all that. Also I just really like Poseidon having a hand made of water kind of with claws... it just looks cool. Great work!
One of my personal favorite things to see with the greek gods is having clear shared characteristics, with your Poseidon and Zeus, they have similar facial features, the rounded large nose, the square head shape, even aspects of their beards. They feel related, and that is something more often than not missed in modern interpretations. Keep up the amazing work! Additionally having the waves take the shape of horses is so good!
Fun fact for the designs for Zeus and Poseidon! I planned on each of the brothers having some kind of braid to show! So Zeus has 3 little braids in his big mountain of hair! Showing he is the last brother! Poseidon has two
@@nealillustrator Ooooo. That's interesting. Cause not many people catch that fact. Sure, Zeus is the king of the gods, but he's also the youngest of the Olympians. Cronos' wife had Zeus last and hid him away, giving Cronos a stone instead.
OKAY BUT THE WAY EURYLOCHUS AND ODYSSEUS SAVE EACH OTHER MULTIPLE TIMES- LIKE THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH THE CARE AND TRUST EACH OTHER WHICH MAKES WHAT HAPPENS IN THUNDERBRINGER SO MUCH SADDER AAAAAAA THIS IS AMAZING
1. The eye charm!!!! COOL ASS DETAIL!!!! 2. I love how your Poseidon looks like he is genuinely Zeus’s brother. They srsly look related 3. WATER PROSTHETIC!!! 4. HORSE SHAPED WAVES
I am obsessed with 1:23 face. The sheer disdain and royal disgust. You are just a mere mortal, you will die, no one will ever ever remember any of the little stupid things you will accomplish and yet you DARE to piss me off because you think you are this good samaritan. His life and what e went through for Poseidon are comparable to quarrel between tiny insects
One particular thing I noticed was how Poseidon's hair falls whenever he was 'calm' or simmering with boiling anger, holding himself back. When he eventually snaps or shows his anger other than the fury on his face, his hair stands up or floats, kind of reminding me of waves or currents slowly getting higher like tsunamis, almost mad, in a way. The art is so good, too! I aspire to animate like you someday and express these small yet key details that tell the audience what kind of character they are in ways other than verbal methods.
What I love about this (and by proxy another thing I love about Thunder Bringer) is that the Gods don't even bother to get down to Odysseus' level. ithey're just like "No F&@% you I am a GOD! I'm not lowering myself to your size, screw you, DIE!" and its fantastic. I also really love that this animatic shows actually very little of Poseidon and mostly focuses on the destruction and Odysseus and his crew's effort to survive. That is such a fascinating and awesome take of this scene! Lastly; I find it hilarious that this is called an animatic when like it's just a few in-between frames and a couple of backgrounds away from being just a "finished" animation. It's very polished and excellently produced. p.s. I say "finished" in quotes because what people consider "finished" can vary quite a bit from person to person.
this is probably the first animatic i see that poseidon looks truly angry. In the others he just looks like he is in a psychotic break but isnt actually mad
Oof that hair flip and water arm forming, hot. Love the incorporation of the waves becoming horses. I LOVE that eye roll at 1:23. Poseidon always seems to have the same expression though. He seems to be like the opposite of Zeus who had a very confident smirk and here Poseidon is like this close to snapping everyone’s ship in half. Which he does. His un contained rage is very evident, you almost get the impression that he actually cares about his son and what Odysseus did to him. A lot of animatics make Poseidon more snide and sadistic, toying with Odysseus than rly seeking to avenge his son. There’s a lot of dynamic movement which always very nice in these animatics. Yours r practically animated honestly. Beautiful work like always. Can’t wait for you to animated Scylla or something. ❤❤❤
I plan on taking in the whole play! Scylla is a design I still and trying to nail down at the moment but I’m working hard to make her awesome! Also thank you! The vibe for Poseidon was pissed if metalhead dad! So I wanted him to actually be cause all this hell cause someone hurt his kid
I love how you show the entire song as a struggle for Odysseus and his crew. It's not just the final onslaught, but instead a constant fight for survival just because Poseidon is present, and so far above Odysseus and his men.
I love how Eurylochus (and the rest of the crew) looks at Odysseus going to apologize with a face of “he’s gonna get us all killed” Edit: Gonna add a few more things, 1 I love how Poseidon is throwing them around the entire time, so furious that not killing them immediately is a him showing more restraint than it would take Zeus to not try to fuck something on sight. 2 is Poseidon an amputee? 3 I love how liquid (heh) a lot of the video is. 3 Men with long hair is my favorite. 4 I do really like how Poseidon looks like he's Zeus's brother but he's still distinctly Poseidon. 5 Just how personally and brutally shown the drowning of the crew is done really emphasizes how horrific it is, for me at least, it evokes a lot more horror than just the "Captain"s (one of the very few things I think could have been done better). These are ~550 people who are being dragged into the depths and drowned, which is a horrific and terrifying way to go out. By the hand (literally) of a god no less
I like how in this one Poseidon appears to be genuinely outraged on his son’s behalf rather than treating this as a way to maintain his rep. Most other animatics depict him with an evil smirk or show him toying with Odysseus by personally manhandling him or dragging him off the ship only to let him back up. This one, with his prosthetic arm and expression of genuine rage comes off as a dad who, empathizing with his son’s newly blinded state due to his own mutilation, truly wishes to send a message to all to never mess with his children.
Ugh, I absolutely adore how you use the dynamic environments to enhance the power of the gods. The spinning clouds from Zeus? Literally EVERYTHING in this? Also, how angry Poseidon looks? This is absolutely fucking incredible, my guy. You should be so proud.
I will never get over how ASTONISHING your animation is. The movement of everything: the men, the ships, the water, Poseidon's HAIR--everything feels so lifelike. I feel like I'm watching an animated film.
Every part of this was incredible and I LOVE how Poseidon seems genuinely upset about his son getting blinded rather than just Odysseus's pride. I especially love the water horses and water cyclops.
Your Poseidon is terrifying! He's raging like a storm, truly pissed off. I love how he's actively attacking the fleet, sending wave after wave at them, forcing them to fight for their lives. Masterful work!
It's so refreshing seeing a Poseidon that is PISSED about some mortal hurting his son, a lot of other animatics have him seem more just there for the sadism or even annoyed he has to deal with this at all, but no, we see a god there to avenge his blinded son. Also, Ody's tone shift! I love how he's just got a moment of manic hope that pieces his grief over the loss of his men long enough for him to grab the bag and act! Losing the bag in the first place! Everything ties together into a more cohesive event than the song alone really got across, and the expressions and the details on background characters- There's so much to love about this!
I just realized thanks to this animatic that Poseidon was actually considering maybe letting them go if Odysseus apologized like he asked. Instead all he heard were excuses which cemented his desire to kill them. Amazing work !
yep Ody tried to justify their actions instead of giving the sinceare apology Poseidon wanted. honestly wish polities wouldn't have been K.O.'d since he would have treated the world with open arms and probably given a damn good apology too
All of Odysseus' excuses were pretty damn good excuses though "Yeah, your son was trying to kill us. I'm personally not fond of the idea of dying, so..."
I don’t personally think Poseidon wanted an apology here, I think he’s trying to teach a lesson Had ody actually taken in that lesson and showed understanding then yeah maybe Poseidon would have let them live
I'm genuinely obsessed with how Poseidon was really pissed and the agressive movement of the waves reflected that anger. Also Eurylochus and Odysseus reaching out to pull one another back to the ship is everything
One of the many things I love about your animations is that you make human relationships feel so real through actions and body language, they make the scene even more heartbreaking
Absolutely love how you show the crew acting as, well a crew. Showing them trying to survive Poseidon is a unique thing I haven't seen in anything else. Amazing work!
I love the crew having lives and personality of their own. Them all having personality shows how hard it is for Odysseus to get them on the same page. Odysseus is essentially the leader of Like a really large scale group project
THIS POSEIDON DESIGN IS ABSOLUTELY SICK. The idea of him forming one of his hands out of water??? WOW- As he tugs at the necklace around his neck, like "NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHOSE SON YOU HURTED?" . Poseidon's divine wrath in this animation is so well conveyed and his facial expressions perfectly match the intonations of his voice, it just gives me goosebumps along with the despair of Odysseus at 3:04
I loved having Poseidon have something to represent the Cyclopes on him cause they are his creation. Like a proud dad wearing a macaroni necklace their kid made for them
Honestly, it gives the feeling that he's more pissed at the situation, rather than the people. The people, at the end of the day, are insignificant to him. But the situation that they've caused is not. It's clearest at the start, when he isn't even actually targeting them. He's simply in their vicinity, screaming his rage out, and they're being swept up in it.
My favorite artist out of all the epuc animatics, the attention to detail is amazing nothing is missed and i love the designs of the characters (abd the art style) amazing😍
This was an incredible experience, my god. The posing and proportion of an almighty being like Poseidon being so big that his fingernail is the size of one of their boats. Him leaving a warning of “remember me and what I can and WILL do” with the debris and corpses floating in his hair. Odysseus raising his hands in fear but hope that Poseidon will spare them. This was ✨stellar✨
I love that for the whole animatic, Poseidon is straight up pissed. Not cunning, not trolling Odysseus, just pure anger. Also, I love how you made his hand out of water. And the horses! Perfection.
There’s so, so much here I love. The song is a constant attack. He isn’t playing or messing around. He isn’t trying to teach Odysseus a lesson to be less merciful. He wants him dead, he’s actually being Ruthless. Showing the crew struggling to keep their boat intact was also masterfully done. Even just small details like how the only characters in white are Odysseus, Eurylochus, and Poseidon, while the rest are gray like the backgrounds, heck even the wind bag has white highlights, so your eyes are automatically drawn to what is important. As soon as I finished watching this, I just instantly watched it again (funnily enough, same thing happened with your Thunder Bringer animatic) I’m eager to see whatever song you choose next. I know another commenter said it but I would love to see the Underworld, especially with how detailed even your background characters are. More than worth the wait, spectacular job.
THANK YOU! The underworld is high up on my list of what to do next! I plan on doing the whole play it’s just so hard picking what to do next (especially with the new sagas coming out!)
My gods, this song always gets me. From the calls of "Captain!" As Poseidon is killing most of his fleet, to the look of Odysseus with the "ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG!"
I LOVE how violent this was, and yes his water taking shapes so the ocean STAMPEDES their fleet with literal horses perfectly articulates the force of the water The Cyclopes smashing their boat and how you can clearly see how it’s taking every ounce of effort just to survive the entire time
I was literally looking for this comment to see whether it was just me who noticed them. They first show up embracing each other in the background at 3.23, then up close at 3.45, and finally one of them pins the other to ship's mast with his own body to keep him safe secure at 4.05. It is too lovely 💚🏳️🌈😭
There's a thousand details i want to mention in this because it's so amazing. Poseidon's necklace, the windbag foreshadow through the animation, Eurylochus working his damn hardest to keep the ship afloat and protecting his captain. It's just packed of excellent ideas, i feel i'm gonna rewatch this againand again for '12 years or so'. Or more.
I love all the interactions between the crew and Odysseus and Eurylochus (sp). The horse waves are amazing. This is the only animatic where the faster/lighter music from the "open this bag" line makes sense because it's an action sequence. You don't need me to say it, but well done!
First time I’ve seen a depiction of Poseidon actively holding Ody and the 43 out of the water while the rest are thrashed about. Somehow makes their feeling of helplessness more powerful, as it’s not just them standing in horror. They’re literally trapped in the palm of his hand! Poseidon even gave them a good view of all the carnage, how generous.😊
Ruthlessness is one of my favorite songs out of epic, and the Anniflamma animatic was one of my favorite animatics for it. I would say this has easily matched that in quality. The water horses, the ship wreck hair, even Poseidon’s water arm. You made him FEEL like a force of nature towering over mortal men. Just amazing.
Just genuinely phenomenal animated storytelling all through this thing: Poseidon casually whirlpooling the ships, turning Odysseus' entire fleet in an orbit around him sells his sheer power in a few moments. The wave taking Polyphemus' shape before it strikes Ody's ship gets the chefiest kiss possible. And Odysseus losing the bag in the chaos, finding it at the end of the song, and diving into the water to open it is legit such a brilliant way to keep him active and participating in a sequence that Poseidon really could have walked away with otherwise. Amazing work.
God but this is so fantastic. Some of my favorite moments in this work of art were: - the way the water was so fluid and took on shapes of the horse and the Cyclops - Poseidon not being reserved or quiet but just absolutely pissed about what happened to his son. And not just pissed at Ody, but at the whole crew. - the moment when he said "unless of course, you apologise for my son's pain and all his cries" he genuinely looked bitter but ready to take a heartfelt apology. But the excuses Odysseus gave instead in his panic - that you can so clearly see on his face! - instead caused a dangerous stillness before everything went to hell - the fact that you used the beats and thrums of the music to showcase massive amounts of water and waves being moved fffffff that was so good - also the fact that that wasn't even Poseidon's direct doing, but just the fact that he was there and pissed was having the crew fight for their lives was such a good concept - the crew though. THE CREW Oh my Goood they all had faces and you showcased them being drowned and the aftermath so well I was shook. Ody was shook. Him being held back and the way he sank to his knees was just heartwrenching There's a lot more, but I just wanted to let you know some of my fav scenes (like the spin Poseidon did!!) and tell you you've made such a gorgeous, well planed out and rocking animatic that I'lll be sharing and coming back to. Thank you so much! Beautiful
I love how you made Poseidon angry and furios unlike the other animatics where he is sadisticly enjoying tormenting odysseus. 2:08 HOLY OLYMPUS LOOK AT THAT STAMPEDE.
The fact that you made the bag out of reach was GENIUS because him taking so long to open the damn bag seems stupid in the song, but watching how he *knew* he could use it but couldn't made it more believable. Besides, Jason Momoa Poseidon? Slay~
THE DEBRIS OF HIS FLEET IN POSEIDON'S HAIR ARE YOU KIDDING ME
ITS SO GOOD!!!!
It’s a cool detail I can’t wait to bring back for the later Poseidon songs that people have mentioned
OMG I KNOW I LOVED THAT!
@@nealillustrator « get in the water » ;)
@@snipy9317 dude thinking about that song with the debris and bodies still clung to Poseidon. Just such a chilling "you should have died that day" feel
I love the implications of Poseidon's cyclops necklace at 0:50 because it implies he either A. wears it all the time or B. doesn't but SPECIFICALLY chose to wear it before facing Odysseus to angrily make a point
And I love both scenarios-either Poseidon always carries a symbol of his son, or he dressed up to kill Odysseus. "...And I'm going to hold THIS necklace up when I mention my boy..."
@@matchamyvibeoh god I can 100% see any Greek god deciding how to prettying themselves up for their grand revenge day
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@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8csomg 😭😭😭
I thought it was the "millennium eye" from Yo-ge-oo...... showing my age here....
I freaking love the depiction of this god. The crew isn't standing around while Posidon is monologuing. He's throwing his weight around with the water, and the depictions of what he's in control over. They're in HIS element, at the mercy of HIS creations. While the whole time they're fighting against it. He's depicted beautifully here. He's angry and upset and it really shows because he's not beating and targetting on Odysseus like in other animations, he's targeting everyone and anything that's in his waters without a second thought. This is my favorite animatic of Posidon so far.
Thank youu!!! I really love animating fx so this song was a perfect chance to get to show the power of Poseidon and how the boats are one wave away from destruction at any point
THIS!!!
Fully agreed. I like the choice to depict the Gods as giants instead of demons that are slightly taller or just as tall as the mortals they are intimidating / playing with. It enforces the idea that they are literally looking down on the mortals - even the god of the seas beneath their ships.
@@korsekilSame but I feel I like the idea of gods changing their sizes
oh yea 100% agree. feel like if you combine the designs a bit with other things then you could have one fuck of a series.
this is my favorite adepiction of the gods. the get in the water by willows has the genius idea of poseidon being a cyclops beneath his exterior, taking on that form at maximum rage.
can't remember the exact name but there is one for polyphemous that is just 'chef's kiss' when it comes to the cyclops design and demeanor. immense, monstrous, lanky... but human, mourning the death of a beloved pet.
One thing I really like about this song is about how it embraces the cultural context of the story it's adapting. Poseiden's rage at them not killing his son wouldn't make much sense to modern person in our culture, but from the perspective of an honor based culture like Ancient Greece, it makes total sense. In most ancient cultures, they took the adage of "dying honorably is better than living dishonorably" very seriously. In these cultures, sparing someone's life after a battle wasn't seen as an act of mercy, but an insult as you are denying them an honorable death and forcing them to live under the sting of defeat. For Oddysseus to not only deny Polythemus an honorable death of getting killed in battle against a clever enemy, but to also force him to live blind and knowing exactly how Oddysseus tricked him, yeah, an ancient person wouldn't consider that mercy, but one of the grossest and cruelest ways you could insult someone.
THANK YOU. As much as I love EPIC, this aspect always somehow escaped me (why is Poseidon so pissed off about Ody leaving Polyphemus alive) and now it makes so much sense.
@@Nithrei I was just searching for this answer too! 😅 Now I know :)
I agree plus this song pays attention of the fact that the guy is not apologizing. He’s just trying to convince me not to attack them by saying well we didn’t do anything wrong, but I’d never ask for an explanation. All he asked for was apology whether they were right or not was irrelevant they didn’t even say sorry when he asked and that’s one of the things Posiden sed he hated, his self righteousness and that as long as he thinks he’s right he doesn’t say sorry even though he caused pain but still claims to be a good person
@@ThornDevlyou’ll notice in both this song and Get In The Water, Odysseus doesn’t apologize and downplays his role in what happened
It's also worth pointing out that Poseidon favored the Greeks during the Trojan War, and they made sacrifices to him for safe travels. He didn't fuck with Odysseus until he left his son alive instead of ending him.
That is certainly an entirely unwarranted amount of water horses, and I for one am all for it. That aside, I love how the gods never bother lowering themselves to human stature, they are always towering above, unyielding and unflinching.
There are a criminal amount of water horses in this! There were more in the initial pass but it was starting to be a little to much horse and not enough water lol
@@nealillustratorI would like to see the initial pass, or at least you explaining it if you can😊
I love how pissed Poseidon is the entire time. Most of the other animatics show him as more mocking or disdainful of Odysseus, but here he is enraged from the disrespect Odysseus and his crew have shown him.
You can never have enough water horses
@@nealillustrator hogwash. He's the god of the ocean horses and earthquakes and they aren't on land so let them water horses prance and drag the sailors to there deaths.
I love on how compared to Zeus dramatically revealing himself from the clouds, Poseidon just claws his way out the water like feral animal. That, along with his "prosthetic arm" makes for fantastic contrast compared to his brother. Well done Neal! Well done!
Honestly the depiction of his entrance really is great, you can tell out the gate he's beyond pissed and is already near the point of no forgiveness, then ody makes excuses instead of apologizing and we'll that line is crossed
God, yes, THIS. Zeus is the stoic King Of The Gods, he's their composed leader, nothing and no one can give him orders, and he's much more composed as the bastion of civilization. He's calm and in his element, his word is law, and he knows that he'll be obeyed no matter what.
Meanwhile Poseidon is the wild King Of The Oceans, he's the god of tempests and storm surges and 70% of the planet's surface. He's a terrifying force of nature that must be both feared and respected, because you cannot bargain with the ocean, you cannot plea with a creature born of wild waters.
@@marymccann3500 one of the reasons Poseidon is so dangerous to anger is because his mood shifts like the seas, anything can set him off and everyone knows an angry sea is not something you wanna be anywhere near
@@Shadowblader98 It doesn't actually matter if Odysseus "makes excuses", Poseidon was never going to spare him in the first place, that's the essence of "ruthlessness"!
The reason he asks him to apologize is so he can show him that mercy is not an option in their world. It's a taunt, a way to strip him of all his dignity before inflicting the final blow.
"Look at you, you begged me and your men still died. Did you learn your lesson?"
That's why the line he says directly after Ody's apology is so important. Odysseus isn't being hopeful, he's being naive in thinking that after pissing off a god, a simple apology would fix everything.
He's teaching him to be ruthless by showing him the consequences of his... sentimentality, as Athena puts it.
@@Shadowblader98 He's also the god of earthquakes, so he's basically the god of nature's destructive rage
"The cyclops you made blind...is mine. See this pendent? He made it for Father's Day. Now it feels weird wearing it. Since. Well. Eye."
It probably has "Worlds best dad." on the back in Greek.
@@asdrubalvect6328 with lov Poly. Spelled wrong, which makes it more endearing
@@asdrubalvect6328 He probably also has a mug that reads "don't talk to me until I have had my drowned the king of Ithica."
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Omg 🤣
The fact that Poseidon is an amputee and Odysseus *blinded* his son, giving him a disability as well? Makes his wrath more understandable, and the line you should have just killed him and avoided this. Poseidon knows how hard it is to live with a disability
And his own disability is "easier" to naviguate thank to his control over water, which allow him to create a limb to replace the one he lacks (just like we see him do in the animation). How do you want to fix the blind eye of a cyclop ?
It is true that for his son, it is even more severe than for Poseidon himself, and he likely can acknowledge this. Plus, we don't know if Poseidon was disable for all his life or not.
I saw people mentionning maybe this version lost his arm either due to being eaten by Chronos (either the arm was digested or it was cut off by the teeth because he tried to fight back). In which case, he was basically disabled for all his life.
or he lost it in battle during Gigantomachia. In which case, he became disabled and had to adapt to it, so he has experienced some of the hardship his son will face.
I like the Chronos idea more because it would mean all the other siblings except Zeus would have scars, especially Hestia and Hades, as they are the first and second child respectively.
Plus, in this time period, I doubt there would be a lot of aid for the blind, especially adapted to the height of a cyclop... So, in a way, killing him would have been merciful toward both him and the crew.
@orianefaton1885 I like this idea, I can see Hades shrouding himself like Morgoth in the Underworld but underneath he is only a scarred man that does not any but his wife to see his pain while with Hestia, she had become Fire in flesh and body, her humanoid form too damaged so she had decided to become The Goddess of Fire alone and nothing else
yeah, killing him is sad, but crippling is personal
I also think it's ironic in the song that Odysseus says they only hurt him to "disarm" him. I have a feeling that pissed off this version of Poseidon just a little bit more.
… me sitting here in my wheelchair understanding deeply
I kinda love how Odysseus reach out to the people when they are hit with the wave. Few animatics have pictured Poseidon this violent like that in their animatic and I love it!
edit: made a typo on odysseus's name
Im working hard to portray Odysseus as a man who cares for his crew deeply and is doing everything in his power to set them up for successes but something always stops him
I dunno Anniflam has got a real good version and also uses the bourse motif.
The detail of Posiadon's hair being made out of the shipwrecks! Amazing!
EEE THANK YOU!
great catch! I had to go back and figure out what you were talkin' about!
I don’t see it 😭😭
@@nealillustrator the queen of godly hairdos! Excited what else you cook when god games drops
@@pencilRC1 at 4:17 the shipwrecks are stuck in his hair
I love 3:55 where Odysseus sees the wind bag, gets a smile, and LEAPS INTO THE WATER to grab it- then Eurylochus reaching out to catch Odysseus?? AMAZING. and the final shot of Poseidon with the shipwrecks in his hair is so intimidating !!
And the fact that Odysseus is basically already reaching out, like, he knows Eurylochus got his back.
Ngl that is the funny part of the music lol
I love how the reverse happens earlier in the song, when Eurylochus almost falls off the boat and Odysseus catches him
I'm sorry but the way you drew the hand at 0:10 SLAMMING down is such a good scene it's SO HARD to change the camera angle in an ANIMATION while making it so fluent ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
I love the way that Odysseus and Eurlychus actually feel like good friends who trust and care about each other!!! Especially in light of thunder saga events. It’s so nice/heartbreaking to see them help and protect one another
Wait till I get a song with polities in it! Heart breaking
I wonder if he would be ass musclely😅
@@nealillustratorNooo don’t do that, I will cry a river😭
@@nealillustrator Not he precious pancake-
@nealillustrator why would you do this to us 😭
You truly are ruthless 😏
I love how you can tell in the facial shapes that Zeus and Poseidon are brothers. I’d be really curious to see what your depiction of Hades would look like
Oh right, me too😊
I would also love to see this. For completely normal reasons.
@@zabrinaquain7329 🤔
I mean...there is the Underworld song. We don't have to see him do much...just sit there. Chilling, cuz Hades is chill.
@@emilycurrent7489 Oh yeah I know. I love Hades. I mean- I love- how chill he is.
The sheer venomous disdain on Poseidon’s face, and the way he’s searching the fleet for Odysseus, like he doesn’t know which one of these land-dwelling flyspecks is the one he’s trying to specifically drown, that was good.
Honestly I’m wondering now if he asked for an apology just so he knew which idiot to leave for last.
@@shadowcat9672Probably, and to see who's stupid enough to actually think an apology would work. Because that's the same idiot to give someone their name and address after blinding a guy but letting him live😂
@@noonespecial9704 Technically, he didn't even apologize, he tried to explain the reason for his actions, but he didn't say sorry
Oh I hadn't even *noticed* that, that's so cool!
@@SamSam-vk7qv Which made Poseiden go "Oh yeah, now I'm definitely gonna kill you and your crew" XD
The way Poseidon stares at everyone at 2:23 like "yeah you, AND YOU, PERSONALLY. YOU TOO!"
I like the idea that until he speaks, Poseidon DOESN'T KNOW who Odysseus is, he just knows he is one of these "worms", maybe you, or you, or personally you!
@@igorgracchia5788 I love this! I also think that his son gave him like a brief description of what he looks like, but since most of them look similar, P was like “I KNOW ITS ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES!”😂
I imagine he only targeted Odysseus after the man once again, revealed himself; while contradicting whatever Poseidon's son had explained prior. That guy just failed 3 chances to understand what the lesson was.
Usually in Ruthlessness animatics Poseidon smiles more and is more malicious focusing on Odysseus. Here, he's frowning the entire time in a way showing he's genuinely upset about Polyphemus and is serious about his words. It's a new take but I like it.
Edit: ALSO THE DETAILED SIDE CHARACTERS. Showing that they're real people who respected Odysseus and were scared for their lives :D
Personally speaking, it feels more appropriate for who poseidon is. Poseidon is a god that will not be trifled with.
I figured showing Poseidon more pissed off would be a nice change from Zeus who was all smiles
I mean in the myth posiden was genuinely pissed that Odysseus hurt HIS son and not only hurt HIS son also BLINDED him aswell😊
@nealillustrator honestly a fantastic choice.
I've never been a big fan of poseidon "enjoying" this( I don't know what better word choice to use) because this isn't fun for him. Odysseus hurt his son. Worse than that, Odysseus is trying to justify what he did, not apologize.
This animatic rocks, keep up the great work! 👍
It fit really well with how posidon is depicted in the Odyssey itself. Extremely dangerous but also stern and honest and interestingly as fair. In the episode when the story of ares and Aphrodite cheating is told (yes, that's a passage from the Odyssey) Poseidon is one of the few people that does not make fun of Hephaestos but also tells him to let his wife and brother free from the chains he literally cought them cheating in. He presumably does this to stop the public humiliation of Hephaestos but also the punishment Ares and Aphrodite. That this story is even part of the Odyssey kinda shows, that while Poseidon may be the antagonist of the story, he is not "evil"
My favorite parts of this animatic (in no particular order):
- how Poseidon's pointed beard shape mimics the shape of a fish fin similar to how Zeus' beard in Thunderbringer looks like it's made of storm clouds
- how all of his expressions the whole song long really convey that this is a father who is enraged that not only did someone blind his son but they then told his son their name as they sailed off while boasting about how they showed his son mercy. It's not a slow cold rage or almost playfully malicious rage that most animatics do. No, Poseidon is *pissed* and just like the ocean, there's very little that can stop him once he's on a roll
- how the wave that collides with Odysseus' ship during the line of "you were far too nice" is shaped like a cyclops which we first see Odysseus' horror of seeing moments before it actually is seen by us during the line "But nooo"
- the mirrored scenes of Odysseus catching Eurylochus when Eurylochus falls off the ship and then Eurylochus catching Odysseus so that he doesn't get blown away from the ship by the wind bag
- The crew basically being like "Hoe don't do it... oh my gawd" when Odysseus is "apologizing" to Poseidon for hurting Polyphemus
- I know I said it before but I think the contempt on Poseidon's face when he says "The line between naïveté and hopefulness is almost invisible" deserves a special mention like holy fuck
- Mmmmm teleporting water arm because he is *literally* the ocean itself is such a tasty visual and display of not only Poseidon's might but also a reminder *that there is nowhere Odysseus can go that he can't follow as long as Odysseus is at sea*
- Odysseus's crew having to hold him back and keep him from jumping overboard when Poseidon's decimating his crew is *chef's kiss*
- The slow pan downwards so we can see not just the destruction above but the devastation below with the words "when does a ripple become a tidal wave?/when does a man become a monster" really sets things up for when they're in the Underworld and Odysseus is confronted by the souls of his men that died under his command
- Poseidon's expression is full on mocking Odysseus by echoing his words that he spoke to Polyphemus right back at him: "I am your darkest moment"
- The moment of realization and hope as Odysseus spies the wind bag and the manic grin as Poseidon asks for his last words and he bursts out "ALL I HAVE TO DO IS OPEN THIS BAG!" before leaping overboard to do just that
- Odysseus pensively looking at the ground as his remaining crew celebrates the fact that they're alive, before looking out to sea to see Poseidon seething in the distance and once again throwing Odysseus' words back into his face: "Remember me..."
.... so yeah I really loved this animatic lol
And his braids made him look like a lobster
"Hoe don't do it" is going to my favourite list of phrases
You hit everything I wanted to say as well!! I also esp like how Poseidon’s hair is straight but bends and moves like stream of water. And also how Poseidon’s physique is like a swimmers with built shoulders and lats but slimmer waist.
@@heyoitsollie Yeah and compare that to how the animatic creator made Zeus in Thunderbringer who was built like a javelin thrower with thick arm muscles perfect for throwing his lighning bolts!
yousaid everything i wanted to say
1:28 The way Eurylochus was the only one onscreen when he said "A greek who reeks of false righteousness" LIKE GYATDAYUMM BRO THIS IS ART IN MORE WAYS THAN THE IMMACULATE ANIMATION.
EASILY the best/most seemless way I've seen any animator visualize the "all I gotta do is open this bag" sudden shift. The concept of the bag getting lost actual makes so much sense
I like the prosthetic arm design for Poseidon. I like to think it’s because he was partially digested by Kronos when he and his other siblings were in Kronos’ stomach. Also him being angry and temperamental like the tides is just perfect!!!
My headcanon was that he lost it during the Titanomachy, but that's an even better one!!!
my headcanon was he lost his arm because he fought with Scylla, i love this one tho
I had the same thought and that all his other siblings who were eaten having a part missing with hades and hestia missing the most as they were their longest
@@AutoSonic495Scylla is his ex sooo maybe no
@@crow3958 I'M SORRY WHAT?? i need to really catch up on mythology, any video recommendations?
My three favorite things from this animatic. 1) Poseidon pulling himself out of the sea looks so aggressive and powerful, it fits really well. 2) The waves taking the form of horses AND POLYPHEMUS was a very nice touch. 3) The looks of blatant hostility and anger on Poseidon’s face are really well done.
My favourite detail is the eye pendant. Bc personally I can see it as either a think Polythemus made as a child for Poseidon or a pendant Poseidon made and wears our of mourning over his son's death
I love how personified the crew is, a lot of the time I feel like they’re just drawn as a group of unimportant and nondescript bodies, but you really brought them to light and made us remember that they’re people who just want to get home as much as Odysseus and Eurylocus are
I LOVE HOW FURIOUS HE IS: My favorite shot is when the camera is circling him as he makes a whirlpool. THIS IS SUCH A COMPLEX ANIMATIC AND I THINK IT REALLY IS YOUR STRONGEST WORK
I LOVE this Poseidon! In lots of animatics he comes off as creepy or sinister, and your version is definitely intimidating, but this Poseidon doesn't look like he's going to be subtle or manipulative, which is perfect because he's not that kind of god. This Poseidon is pissed off and is planning to beat the shit out of some arrogant mortals, and all he needs is brute force to do it. He doesn't even look like he's bothering to talk directly to Odysseus, because why would he care if some puny king is listening to what he's saying? This Poseidon is uncaring, powerful, and deadly, just like the ocean. You knocked it out of the park!
Don't forget buetyful 😉
THANK YOU! I was really going for the vibe of “pissed off metalhead dad” over anything else. He is there to get revenge and teach a lesson to not mess with him
Yet it doesn't fit the mood of the song, the way he's portrayed in this animatic doesn't really match the tone in which his lines are delivered.
I’m sorry that you don’t really vibe with this interpretation!
@@kindredgaming7655 I think it fits more than the usual interpretations, tbh
I love the direction you took with this. All the other animatics have made it a bit more personal, with Odysseus and co quaking in fear as Poseidon yells at them, but here they're just trying to survive the fact that a god near them is angry! Like, it makes the environment around them dangerous whether Poseidon is directly attacking them or not. So cool.
Also, Poseidon just looks a lot more pissed. Other people have him either resigned or boiling with tranquil fury, but this guy is out for blood and his face shows it.
Thank you! There are a lot of fantastic takes on Poseidon but I really wanted to focus on him being pissed about what happened to his son. Someone hurt his kid and everyone is gonna pay
@@nealillustrator i like the small detail of Euriloclies face flashing with concern when Ody chooses to "apologize" by trying to justify the actions they took, honestly all he probably had to do was sincerely apologise and realize that posidon doesn't care why they did it, but the pain and anguish it caused
@@olivermadsen6405The Greek word apologia (ἀπολογία) means "speaking in defense" and is derived from the prefix apo-, which means "away from," and the word logia, which comes from the Greek word lógos, meaning "speech". In Latin, apologia is translated as apology
You, in ancient Greece, are supposed to explain yourself. The harm and hurt is already done. Now you must be sincere in your apologia & hope the one you wronged accepted it.
If not? Well Poseidon showed you.
So in reality Odysseus was doing it the right way. This is ANCIENT GREECE.
We shouldn't look at it by a modern day definition.
Thank you for this
@@olivermadsen6405 Nah, especially in EPIC it is clear that no matter what Odysseus says there, Poseidon will still strike him down. "Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves." "The line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible." It feels a lot like Poseidon giving him a chance to accept what he is trying to teach him.
Poseidon doesn't really care about his children much, the reason he even does this for Polyphemus is that he gives his children wishes to make up for the fact that he is never there as a father, and this was his wish.
Poseidon’s eye roll on “You are the worst kind of good ‘cause you’re not even great” is absolutely perfect
I. LOVE. the opening where Poseidon's hand reaches up and then grabs the water to pull himself up while holding the water LIKE ITS FREAKING SOLID. That physics breaking instant right in the beginning just sets up how out of their league Odysseus and his fleet are.
Love when Odysseus was giving his “apology” and Eurylochus is just like “dude you’re not even apologizing tf are you doing”. Idk if that’s what you were going for but I think that’s cool, amazing job Neal!
Ody really thought he could get away with that half-hearted attempt when they all know he didn't regret a thing. To bad Poseidon ain't accepting that excuse as wasn't even a true I'm sorry.
@@AyameFyuuWe should not forget, that Odysseus has been awake for 9 days straight at this point (with maybe a few hours of sleep right before they opened the bag). He was definitely not thinking straight.
To be honest, Poseidon is telling him the whole song about the virtue of FINISHING THE DAMN JOB. Sparing him after an apology would defeat the whole point, because he was not going to show "mercy" as Odysseus did.
@@g.poupin1700 True, I knew that, but it’s still interesting how Odysseus has so much pride that he’s making excuses to a god instead of apologizing. Even if it doesn’t matter, his men probably don’t know that so they’re just like “bro what are you on rn”
It’s also confirms to Poseidon that *everyone* has to die. He only knew Odysseus’ name from the cyclops but Odysseus’ vain attempt at an apology was “WE meant no harm, WE only hurt him…” damning the entire fleet along with him
I love the way Poseidons arm just bursts from the ocean and his other is literally the ocean. I also love the contrast between Zeus and Poseidon. Zeus was enjoying attacking them. However, Poseidon was just pissed off, he was less enjoying the fight and more just avenging his son. He even tried to give them a chance to live by just asking for a simple apology.(Also Poseidon literally just asked Odysseus to apologize and he did EVERYTHING but that. All he did was make excuses😂)
Bro tried to roll a Charisma check against a god and paid the price
He shouldve apologized regardless, but I do want to point out that the chances of it saving any of them were slim to none. Poseidon made his stance on mercy horrifically clear throughout this song
@@bluebay1031 in fairness, he said that ruthlessness itself is a mercy, and that he had no more mercy at that time. Hard to read what that means for if he would accept a real apology or not, although we see fairly clearly his response to an apology that roughly translates to not apologizing, and saying "if I could blind you and run away too, then I would in a heartbeat."
@@theendersmirk5851 I feel that if Odysseus had made a sincere apology, no excuses or did explain why but followed it up with said apology and mean every word of it, especially if he had, had second thoughts for leaving the cyclops blind and wounded, not in fear but guilt. Poseidon may consider it, but would still need to make an example so may not have claimed as many of Odysseus' men so a couple boats remained. Or if he does smash them all, but in a dark twist of "mercy," allows Odyssyues a chance to try and save as many of his men from drowning, but adds a time-limit of how many he can save before he needs to flee or risk losing the rest of his men.
@@blackstarlight17I’ve been thinking about this, what if pos did it to see if Ody would actually apologize, as people have said mercy is ruthlessness, curious what would’ve happened if ody didn’t apologize, and instead sorta played the villain pos wanted him to be. Just what i’ve been thinking about, because I don’t think ANY apology would’ve done him justice.
The fact that Odysseus was actively holding onto the bag/looking for it while Poseidon wrecked everything around him is such a great nod to his cunning. And it's amazing how you focused on the men trying to survive a sea tempest, because that is ultimately how Poseidon's wrath manifests. I love everything about this ❤
i love that you show Odysseus struggling for the air bag the whole time. idk why i haven't seen that before
I got to say I love how non-apologetic Odysseus actually is in the scene lol like his “apology” isn’t even an apology at all, in fact it’s the exact opposite, he’s basically telling Poseidon to his face. “well we didn’t want to hurt your kid and didn’t feel great doing it, but I’m not sorry we did it because I wanted to get out of there“ and I think that’s such an amazing detail because it brings into question if Poseidon in the next line “ the line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible“ makes you wonder if he’s talking about Odysseus being hopeful Poseidon was actually going to let him go or if he’s talking about himself for being naïve and hopeful that Odysseus would actually own up to his shit and apologize for crippling his son
Oooo!!! I never considered that POV
Exactly. An apology would have been “Great Poseidon, I’m so sorry we blinded your son. How can we make this right?” What Odysseus gave were excuses.
I always thought it was Poseidon saying "Apologize for my son's pain" but Odysseus was also known for his hubris (or pride, I think) so instead he tried to veer the subject into "We did what we had to, to survive." Instead of a genuine apology.
@@eepy_dove it's a habit that you can see throughout the entire musical. when he goes to drop the infant, he doesn't apologize for what he's doing. at no point does he say "i'm sorry". he makes the understandable excuse that if he doesn't do this then his kingdom and all he loves will perish, but at no point does he apologize for having to do it. he only begs for forgiveness, which is not the same.
he does it with Polyphemus as well. after killing the sheep, Odysseus fails to apologize, and even tries to sweep the dead sheep under the rug, "no bloodshed in here today". he immediately going into bargaining.
it's fascinating to watch him throughout the entire musical. not once does he apologize, not even when- (SPOILER FOR THUNDER SAGA)
- he sacrifices his men to Scylla. not once does he apologize to the rest of his crew in Mutiny. in fact, Eurylochus is the first to apologize in the entire musical, and is immediately rewarded with Ody trying to make him a sacrifice.
I actually never thought of that perspective, but it makes sense-
Now I just imagine Poseidon grumply combing the broken ships and drowned bodies out of his hair
Also THIS ANIMATIC IS SO COOL AND AWESOME WHAAAAAT
Thats such a funny idea! Ah now I have to draw that!
ALSO THANKYOU! Your Ruthlessness is so STELLAR!
STOP now I have a mental picture of Poseidon going off about Odysseus while angrily getting out of his hair all the corpses and pieces of ships 💀✋🏻
What do you mean, there's no need to imagine, I've read that written in verse by Homer! What a silly guy
😮 GIGIIII, two popular Epic animatic makers together😮😮😮😮❤❤❤
@gigi2820 @nealillustrator It would be actually mind boggling if you guys did a collab animatic! Would be amazing
Clicked faster than poseidon could kill the crew
Really? Was that necessary?😆
Uncalled for 💀
nooOOOO 🔫
Same!
Nice!
It's ironic that Posiedon is shaming Odysseus for being unable to finish the job when that was ultimately Posiedon's downfall. He spent too long relishing a victory that hadn't happened yet, even giving Odysseus enough time to get that bag.
Ikr 💀
I mean, sure, in this exact moment. But Odysseus is also on an ocean voyage, heading back to a port city which he calls home, and Poseidon is the King of the Oceans. He can catch him at literally any time.
And mild spoilers if you don't know; He does. Literally the moment he arrives back on shore in Ithica, Poseidon appears and tells him to get back in the ocean, or he will destroy the entire city. Poseidon won the moment Athena was no longer protecting him. And nothing that Odysseus could do, would really change that.
@@nemasisdemarini8339 600 STRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE
@@nemasisdemarini8339 Damn this aged badly😭
The whole thing felt so alive, the men trying desperately to survive, the god being absolutely pissed as he wrecks them despite not really needing to, the aftermath of the destruction carried in his hair at the end, all of it is just Chef's kiss!
If Poseidon was a little more ruthless Odysseus wouldn’t have gotten away with
Something I don't really see being mentioned but that I really enjoy is how in this depiction Poseidon's hair shifts between looking like normal hair and back into literal waters when he is in use of his powers! That's a really cool detail, like how his hair falls down at 2:22 when he demands an apology. Also I can't tell of Odysseus' smile at the end of his apology is desperation or him thinking he's gotten himself out of trouble again this time.
I love the detail of the wind bag throughout the animatic. Trying to grab it, floating among everything, with Odysseus finally seeing it and cutting it open. Chef’s kiss.
That bag of wind went in a journey of its own
@@nealillustratorit lent a cool side to it, also explained why ody didn't use it straight away.
@@20storiesunderexactly! Never even thought of it before this animatics but makes so much sense why he only used it at the end of the song
2:32 Yes. Tell Poseidon, the man with a missing arm, that you “disarmed” his son to escape. That will go over nicely.
Ody done screwed up on that one lmao
Yes why didnt He Just apologize to please Poseidon
I love how you used the horses to show the force and strength behind the water's impact. Its a little hard to visualize the force of water until you see it impact something, and even then it (in most animation media) doesn't feel correct. so to show the force behind it you go "hey, you know horses? you know how they are huge and fast and mostly muscle? yea well imagine if a herd of them were running full speed and aimed straight at your skull."
lolol yes
I think there is a link between Poisidon and horses as well which only adds to that
@@bellehogel8665 if I remember correctly (granted, 20 year old me is getting this info from my 12 year old Percy Jackson addicted self, so take it with a grain of salt) the horse was actually Big P’s signature animal. Either Horses or Hippocampi, and one of those doesn’t exist so I’m gonna assume the horse
@@Atomic0534v2 Yup, the ancient greeks said that horses were waves (or the foam of waves) made into flesh. So they were in Poseidons domain aswell
@@Atomic0534v2 To lean further, Pegasus if I remember right is a child of Poseidon, more precisely, born from Medusa.
And, yes, the horse is his main animal symbol, in greek mythology. (he even had a kid whose only really special trait was that he was freaking good with horses XD)
The way he jumps in the water and opens the bag while he's in there just so he can look so freaking cool getting back into the ship is just FULL of the exaggerated swagger of a Greek king
That Poseidon design is immaculate oh my god. The water arm and the eye pendant for his son??? Crazy, I love it
3:05 these subtitles are IMMACULATELY timed...!
SHEESH THEY ARE!
This animatic had a lot of really good details. Poseidon forming the water into a image of his son, the Cyclops. All of Odysseus's men lending a hand to help hold the rope, reinforcing the fact that he needs their strength to survive making the soon-to-be destruction that much worse. Also super unsafe but Odysseus walking the broken mast kind of like walking the plank to put himself out there and apologize in hopes of saving his crew helps show his selflessness.
I always thought that the encounter versus Poseidon and Zeus two sides of the same coin, and keeping that in mind all of these moments here make the ones in the Zeus encounter that much more tragic. Selflessness versus selfishness and all that.
Also I just really like Poseidon having a hand made of water kind of with claws... it just looks cool. Great work!
One of my personal favorite things to see with the greek gods is having clear shared characteristics, with your Poseidon and Zeus, they have similar facial features, the rounded large nose, the square head shape, even aspects of their beards. They feel related, and that is something more often than not missed in modern interpretations. Keep up the amazing work! Additionally having the waves take the shape of horses is so good!
Fun fact for the designs for Zeus and Poseidon! I planned on each of the brothers having some kind of braid to show! So Zeus has 3 little braids in his big mountain of hair! Showing he is the last brother! Poseidon has two
@@nealillustrator😮 would hades have his hair in one braid then?
Oooo that’s so neat!!
@@nealillustrator Ooooo. That's interesting. Cause not many people catch that fact. Sure, Zeus is the king of the gods, but he's also the youngest of the Olympians. Cronos' wife had Zeus last and hid him away, giving Cronos a stone instead.
@@carmenwiggin Persephone braided it and it's full of flowers
1:50 it turning into the cyclops... wow... its so beautiful
3:56 “ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG” “ *WHAT* “
YES. I love how Poseidon looks genuinely upset here, UGH YOUR WORK IS JUST AONDNSNNZNSNSNSN ✨✨✨✨
Pissed off protective dad energy is what I was aiming for
@@nealillustrator you nailed it‼️‼️
OKAY BUT THE WAY EURYLOCHUS AND ODYSSEUS SAVE EACH OTHER MULTIPLE TIMES- LIKE THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH THE CARE AND TRUST EACH OTHER WHICH MAKES WHAT HAPPENS IN THUNDERBRINGER SO MUCH SADDER AAAAAAA THIS IS AMAZING
I WAS LIKE this is SUCH an intentional thing after the incredible use of Thunderbringer, hahahhaha
THE ARM MOVE AT 0:30 THAT'S SO GOOD PLS
Bro can we all appreciate the water animation and how fluid it looks and the fact it’s all hand drawn no CG
4:13 Having them blown all the way Circes Island. Nice
I love how there's a little resemblance to Zeus in Posidon. Makes them actually feel like brothers.
1. The eye charm!!!! COOL ASS DETAIL!!!!
2. I love how your Poseidon looks like he is genuinely Zeus’s brother. They srsly look related
3. WATER PROSTHETIC!!!
4. HORSE SHAPED WAVES
I am obsessed with 1:23 face. The sheer disdain and royal disgust. You are just a mere mortal, you will die, no one will ever ever remember any of the little stupid things you will accomplish and yet you DARE to piss me off because you think you are this good samaritan. His life and what e went through for Poseidon are comparable to quarrel between tiny insects
One particular thing I noticed was how Poseidon's hair falls whenever he was 'calm' or simmering with boiling anger, holding himself back. When he eventually snaps or shows his anger other than the fury on his face, his hair stands up or floats, kind of reminding me of waves or currents slowly getting higher like tsunamis, almost mad, in a way. The art is so good, too! I aspire to animate like you someday and express these small yet key details that tell the audience what kind of character they are in ways other than verbal methods.
What I love about this (and by proxy another thing I love about Thunder Bringer) is that the Gods don't even bother to get down to Odysseus' level. ithey're just like "No F&@% you I am a GOD! I'm not lowering myself to your size, screw you, DIE!" and its fantastic.
I also really love that this animatic shows actually very little of Poseidon and mostly focuses on the destruction and Odysseus and his crew's effort to survive. That is such a fascinating and awesome take of this scene!
Lastly; I find it hilarious that this is called an animatic when like it's just a few in-between frames and a couple of backgrounds away from being just a "finished" animation. It's very polished and excellently produced.
p.s. I say "finished" in quotes because what people consider "finished" can vary quite a bit from person to person.
Omg the slow pan down under the water at 3:36, legit goosebumps. The gravity of what just happened *chefs kiss*
I love how Odysseus and his crew are constantly saving each other it makes thunder bringer so much more heart breaking
I wanted to make sure we saw that they were a team that cared for each other
this is probably the first animatic i see that poseidon looks truly angry. In the others he just looks like he is in a psychotic break but isnt actually mad
The waves taking the form of horses is such a beautiful, dramatic detail. It really conveys the movement and flow of water. Incredible work as always!
Thank you! I figured it was a fun way to show the association to horses!
0:58 not even a minute trough this masterpiece but like wtf?!? horse splashes
I didn’t even notice that, they really did their research!!
I know right! and the water taking the form of the cyclops at 1:49. The details in this animatic are incredible
I love Poseidon's expressions throughout this whole thing. That is the face of a pissed-off dad ready to avenge his child, and I"m here for it
Oof that hair flip and water arm forming, hot.
Love the incorporation of the waves becoming horses.
I LOVE that eye roll at 1:23. Poseidon always seems to have the same expression though. He seems to be like the opposite of Zeus who had a very confident smirk and here Poseidon is like this close to snapping everyone’s ship in half. Which he does. His un contained rage is very evident, you almost get the impression that he actually cares about his son and what Odysseus did to him. A lot of animatics make Poseidon more snide and sadistic, toying with Odysseus than rly seeking to avenge his son. There’s a lot of dynamic movement which always very nice in these animatics. Yours r practically animated honestly.
Beautiful work like always. Can’t wait for you to animated Scylla or something. ❤❤❤
I plan on taking in the whole play! Scylla is a design I still and trying to nail down at the moment but I’m working hard to make her awesome!
Also thank you! The vibe for Poseidon was pissed if metalhead dad! So I wanted him to actually be cause all this hell cause someone hurt his kid
I love how you show the entire song as a struggle for Odysseus and his crew. It's not just the final onslaught, but instead a constant fight for survival just because Poseidon is present, and so far above Odysseus and his men.
I love how Eurylochus (and the rest of the crew) looks at Odysseus going to apologize with a face of “he’s gonna get us all killed”
Edit: Gonna add a few more things, 1 I love how Poseidon is throwing them around the entire time, so furious that not killing them immediately is a him showing more restraint than it would take Zeus to not try to fuck something on sight. 2 is Poseidon an amputee? 3 I love how liquid (heh) a lot of the video is. 3 Men with long hair is my favorite. 4 I do really like how Poseidon looks like he's Zeus's brother but he's still distinctly Poseidon. 5 Just how personally and brutally shown the drowning of the crew is done really emphasizes how horrific it is, for me at least, it evokes a lot more horror than just the "Captain"s (one of the very few things I think could have been done better). These are ~550 people who are being dragged into the depths and drowned, which is a horrific and terrifying way to go out. By the hand (literally) of a god no less
Odysseus: "Guys, I got a plan"
Crew: "So you're either saving the day or dooming us all. There is NO in between with you."
@@josephperez2004 often it’s both (cyclops, Poseidon)
Crew okay guys it is hades time. Pack your bags
I like how in this one Poseidon appears to be genuinely outraged on his son’s behalf rather than treating this as a way to maintain his rep. Most other animatics depict him with an evil smirk or show him toying with Odysseus by personally manhandling him or dragging him off the ship only to let him back up. This one, with his prosthetic arm and expression of genuine rage comes off as a dad who, empathizing with his son’s newly blinded state due to his own mutilation, truly wishes to send a message to all to never mess with his children.
Ugh, I absolutely adore how you use the dynamic environments to enhance the power of the gods. The spinning clouds from Zeus? Literally EVERYTHING in this? Also, how angry Poseidon looks? This is absolutely fucking incredible, my guy. You should be so proud.
I will never get over how ASTONISHING your animation is. The movement of everything: the men, the ships, the water, Poseidon's HAIR--everything feels so lifelike. I feel like I'm watching an animated film.
THANK YOU! I’m working on tackling all the songs to basically make an “unofficial epic the musical animatic film” lol
Alot of work and happy to be here to see it all! @@nealillustrator
@nealillustrator OMG!! I cant wait to see how you draw circe and athena. I love your God designs!! So larger than life!! Completely epic!
Every part of this was incredible and I LOVE how Poseidon seems genuinely upset about his son getting blinded rather than just Odysseus's pride. I especially love the water horses and water cyclops.
Your Poseidon is terrifying! He's raging like a storm, truly pissed off. I love how he's actively attacking the fleet, sending wave after wave at them, forcing them to fight for their lives. Masterful work!
It's so refreshing seeing a Poseidon that is PISSED about some mortal hurting his son, a lot of other animatics have him seem more just there for the sadism or even annoyed he has to deal with this at all, but no, we see a god there to avenge his blinded son.
Also, Ody's tone shift! I love how he's just got a moment of manic hope that pieces his grief over the loss of his men long enough for him to grab the bag and act! Losing the bag in the first place! Everything ties together into a more cohesive event than the song alone really got across, and the expressions and the details on background characters- There's so much to love about this!
I just realized thanks to this animatic that Poseidon was actually considering maybe letting them go if Odysseus apologized like he asked. Instead all he heard were excuses which cemented his desire to kill them. Amazing work !
yep Ody tried to justify their actions instead of giving the sinceare apology Poseidon wanted. honestly wish polities wouldn't have been K.O.'d since he would have treated the world with open arms and probably given a damn good apology too
All of Odysseus' excuses were pretty damn good excuses though
"Yeah, your son was trying to kill us. I'm personally not fond of the idea of dying, so..."
@@yay29823 ya but posidon asked for an apology, not excuses. he probably could have made the same points, but worded it as an apology
@@olivermadsen6405 All it took was a single "I'm sorry"
I don’t personally think Poseidon wanted an apology here, I think he’s trying to teach a lesson
Had ody actually taken in that lesson and showed understanding then yeah maybe Poseidon would have let them live
I'm genuinely obsessed with how Poseidon was really pissed and the agressive movement of the waves reflected that anger. Also Eurylochus and Odysseus reaching out to pull one another back to the ship is everything
One of the many things I love about your animations is that you make human relationships feel so real through actions and body language, they make the scene even more heartbreaking
Absolutely love how you show the crew acting as, well a crew. Showing them trying to survive Poseidon is a unique thing I haven't seen in anything else. Amazing work!
I love the crew having lives and personality of their own. Them all having personality shows how hard it is for Odysseus to get them on the same page. Odysseus is essentially the leader of Like a really large scale group project
@@nealillustratori would recommend Gigi's Scylla for inspiration
THIS POSEIDON DESIGN IS ABSOLUTELY SICK. The idea of him forming one of his hands out of water??? WOW-
As he tugs at the necklace around his neck, like "NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHOSE SON YOU HURTED?" . Poseidon's divine wrath in this animation is so well conveyed and his facial expressions perfectly match the intonations of his voice, it just gives me goosebumps along with the despair of Odysseus at 3:04
I loved having Poseidon have something to represent the Cyclopes on him cause they are his creation. Like a proud dad wearing a macaroni necklace their kid made for them
Poseidon seems so apathetic in this-and yet, very clearly angry, idk how to describe it-and the wind bag??? That’s so cool
Honestly, it gives the feeling that he's more pissed at the situation, rather than the people. The people, at the end of the day, are insignificant to him. But the situation that they've caused is not. It's clearest at the start, when he isn't even actually targeting them. He's simply in their vicinity, screaming his rage out, and they're being swept up in it.
My favorite artist out of all the epuc animatics, the attention to detail is amazing nothing is missed and i love the designs of the characters (abd the art style) amazing😍
This was an incredible experience, my god. The posing and proportion of an almighty being like Poseidon being so big that his fingernail is the size of one of their boats. Him leaving a warning of “remember me and what I can and WILL do” with the debris and corpses floating in his hair. Odysseus raising his hands in fear but hope that Poseidon will spare them. This was ✨stellar✨
I love that for the whole animatic, Poseidon is straight up pissed. Not cunning, not trolling Odysseus, just pure anger.
Also, I love how you made his hand out of water. And the horses! Perfection.
There’s so, so much here I love. The song is a constant attack. He isn’t playing or messing around. He isn’t trying to teach Odysseus a lesson to be less merciful. He wants him dead, he’s actually being Ruthless. Showing the crew struggling to keep their boat intact was also masterfully done. Even just small details like how the only characters in white are Odysseus, Eurylochus, and Poseidon, while the rest are gray like the backgrounds, heck even the wind bag has white highlights, so your eyes are automatically drawn to what is important. As soon as I finished watching this, I just instantly watched it again (funnily enough, same thing happened with your Thunder Bringer animatic) I’m eager to see whatever song you choose next. I know another commenter said it but I would love to see the Underworld, especially with how detailed even your background characters are. More than worth the wait, spectacular job.
THANK YOU! The underworld is high up on my list of what to do next! I plan on doing the whole play it’s just so hard picking what to do next (especially with the new sagas coming out!)
My gods, this song always gets me. From the calls of "Captain!" As Poseidon is killing most of his fleet, to the look of Odysseus with the "ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG!"
Damn, you made it seem like Poseidon actually care about his kid.
In my little animatic universe he does. It’s not very accurate but i like it
@@nealillustratorWell accurate to the myth. His sons are extensions of himself so even an arrogant god would take massive afront.
@@nealillustrator the little necklace that i can only assume his son made for him is so cute 🥺
@@nealillustrator Making someone a better person is never a bad thing. Even if it's by force.
@@glub3589 I know it's so cute 🥹
I LOVE how violent this was, and yes his water taking shapes so the ocean STAMPEDES their fleet with literal horses perfectly articulates the force of the water
The Cyclopes smashing their boat and how you can clearly see how it’s taking every ounce of effort just to survive the entire time
3:45 those two guys embracing 🥺
I just saw them!! My heart is BROKEN for them
Id bet 10 drachmas those two are perimedes and elpenor
I WASNT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THAT!! Also later in 4:05 we see the same two guys holding eachother. Its so cute/wholesome
I was literally looking for this comment to see whether it was just me who noticed them. They first show up embracing each other in the background at 3.23, then up close at 3.45, and finally one of them pins the other to ship's mast with his own body to keep him safe secure at 4.05. It is too lovely 💚🏳️🌈😭
@@hopeinvoked1822 I did not notice the other instances! THANK YOU
My favorite part of this song is that the beginning can be heared in 2/3 ways
"POSEIDON"
"POOR CYCLOPS"
"THE CYCLOPS" and all make sense
There's a thousand details i want to mention in this because it's so amazing. Poseidon's necklace, the windbag foreshadow through the animation, Eurylochus working his damn hardest to keep the ship afloat and protecting his captain. It's just packed of excellent ideas, i feel i'm gonna rewatch this againand again for '12 years or so'. Or more.
God I LOVE the amount of representation of Poseidon also being the god of horses I’ve been seeing in animatics for ruthlessness, I love this community
you are really just killing it with your depictions of the gods!!
THANK YOU! I have Hermes and the others designs I just need to sit down and do the animatics
@@nealillustrator Does this mean you've got a Wouldn't You Like animatic planned?
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Can't wait to see how you portray the other characters! I already like your Zeus and Poseidon designs so much
I love all the interactions between the crew and Odysseus and Eurylochus (sp). The horse waves are amazing. This is the only animatic where the faster/lighter music from the "open this bag" line makes sense because it's an action sequence. You don't need me to say it, but well done!
Poseidon looks so cool. That water arm? Absolutely fantastic!!! Made me imagine that he lost his arm in the fight against the Titans. ^^
OOOO that’s a really wicked reason!
First time I’ve seen a depiction of Poseidon actively holding Ody and the 43 out of the water while the rest are thrashed about.
Somehow makes their feeling of helplessness more powerful, as it’s not just them standing in horror. They’re literally trapped in the palm of his hand!
Poseidon even gave them a good view of all the carnage, how generous.😊
Gigi's animatic has them being held up out of the water at that part as well.
@@WittySomething This was the first time *I* had seen this done, as I haven’t watched Gigi’s yet.
@@aikomatoriona Oooooh if you haven't seen hers yet I highly suggest it. It's a good one, but I mean it's by Gigi so of course it's good lol.
Ruthlessness is one of my favorite songs out of epic, and the Anniflamma animatic was one of my favorite animatics for it. I would say this has easily matched that in quality. The water horses, the ship wreck hair, even Poseidon’s water arm. You made him FEEL like a force of nature towering over mortal men. Just amazing.
Just genuinely phenomenal animated storytelling all through this thing: Poseidon casually whirlpooling the ships, turning Odysseus' entire fleet in an orbit around him sells his sheer power in a few moments. The wave taking Polyphemus' shape before it strikes Ody's ship gets the chefiest kiss possible. And Odysseus losing the bag in the chaos, finding it at the end of the song, and diving into the water to open it is legit such a brilliant way to keep him active and participating in a sequence that Poseidon really could have walked away with otherwise. Amazing work.
God but this is so fantastic. Some of my favorite moments in this work of art were:
- the way the water was so fluid and took on shapes of the horse and the Cyclops
- Poseidon not being reserved or quiet but just absolutely pissed about what happened to his son. And not just pissed at Ody, but at the whole crew.
- the moment when he said "unless of course, you apologise for my son's pain and all his cries" he genuinely looked bitter but ready to take a heartfelt apology. But the excuses Odysseus gave instead in his panic - that you can so clearly see on his face! - instead caused a dangerous stillness before everything went to hell
- the fact that you used the beats and thrums of the music to showcase massive amounts of water and waves being moved fffffff that was so good
- also the fact that that wasn't even Poseidon's direct doing, but just the fact that he was there and pissed was having the crew fight for their lives was such a good concept
- the crew though. THE CREW Oh my Goood they all had faces and you showcased them being drowned and the aftermath so well I was shook. Ody was shook. Him being held back and the way he sank to his knees was just heartwrenching
There's a lot more, but I just wanted to let you know some of my fav scenes (like the spin Poseidon did!!) and tell you you've made such a gorgeous, well planed out and rocking animatic that I'lll be sharing and coming back to. Thank you so much! Beautiful
I love how you made Poseidon angry and furios unlike the other animatics where he is sadisticly enjoying tormenting odysseus.
2:08 HOLY OLYMPUS LOOK AT THAT STAMPEDE.
Wrong water god, D-
Ok but can we all take a minute and talk about this guy protecting the other one😭💞 4:04
It’s def elpenor and perimedes
Thank you for pointing this out!
The fact that you made the bag out of reach was GENIUS because him taking so long to open the damn bag seems stupid in the song, but watching how he *knew* he could use it but couldn't made it more believable. Besides, Jason Momoa Poseidon? Slay~