There was a meme where a PvP match was compared to chess, and ZvZ to a fight between two Wolverines. Here they showed that PvP can be as contact and bloody as ZvZ.
Trap really showcased that 1 base blink is the build against Maxpax's 1gate expo. It's nice to see the players learn from each other. Last time a big breakthrough like that happened was the 15 15 from zerg, and the double rax reaper in tvz. It'll be fun to see some more variety in top level PvP because this one gate stuff was pretty boring.
hey pig - offtopic: what mmr do u have in mechabellum atm? i played up to 1k but now ppl start to actually play well o.0 so, how much i have to grind to get near u so i have a chance to actually catch u on the ladder? =P
Why MaxPax always trying escape from skirmish even when both side had similar army size. That makes his army takes unnecessary damages without strike back.
Im happy to see a NA dude be competitive! I enjoy maxpax games, and watch them all the time, but hes very predictable game to game to game. Ive also seen a maxpax "coaching" of harstem ( who im a big fan of ), being very mean to harstem and less than helpful in his "coaching" session. GOGO ASTREA!
He only means of re balancing is, recalling the oracles, and using them and using stasis in his field area, he won't be able to spend moeny fast enough to his gate load, so if he has a forge, cannons on the high ground will give some fire ot the lower area that astrea is pushing into... the voids are okay, but stlkaers can move away and he has no sentry... sentry' nullfied the shield... we cna look in warp timings, he was coming with 3-4 satlkers and then warped in 2 more, for 16 to 20 pop but those are now 6 stalkers the yplon is not dealt with and he is now on a easy timing of being replnished, IE 30 seconds for another 2 stalkers... which isn't huge, but if your opponent has.. 1 stalker... so yeah slowing the mineral with stasis over and over didn't really seem to stop teh moeny that much but I didnt' see a rss to see that impact, he would have had to lose hte oracles... and could of kiled 3 of the 4 stalkers.. leaving only 3 wit habout `15 seconds left, during that tiem frame he warped in 2 more, then its .. 3 verse 2 stalkers and astrea with 2 more warp in a few... but astrea would have that void ray nubmer one coming out, so it would of been.. 5 stalker, 2 stalker void ray, and 2 more stalkers for max pax, of course assumign the oracle would of wrecked the sentirse over the stalkers.. as priorty... Thats if he cna get those oracles to work.. In that regard astrea would of retreated, since the shield batteries would help mitigate, and plus he can put up a defensive stasis, and punish astrea pushign in to deep.. then suddenly its 2 v 2 situation and you ahve shieldd battery... but in the early game, two is masively better than 1... simply ebcause its twice hte production... 3 is not much better than 2... since its the waymath works... the first iteration of a secondary system doubles the net gain... the next double would be 4 gates... barracks... reactor... reactor is like a cheaper version of a barracks that significanntly boosts production level... if you have one gate and are being pushed by two gate, what can happen is you get money locked or rss locked and you have the minerals for said unit but you can use said unit. ANother interesting thing is after a warp in deconvert teh warpgate to a gateway to prodcue stalker ot gain additional 3 seconds... warp gate is useless on one gate... two gate its okay.. warp gate really benefits from mass gate ways...
There was a meme where a PvP match was compared to chess, and ZvZ to a fight between two Wolverines. Here they showed that PvP can be as contact and bloody as ZvZ.
That... that was a treat.
Agreed. Really nice to watch.
Those two balls hitting right after blink must be spirit bending...
Awesome action packed games and another great cast from pig
Trap really showcased that 1 base blink is the build against Maxpax's 1gate expo. It's nice to see the players learn from each other. Last time a big breakthrough like that happened was the 15 15 from zerg, and the double rax reaper in tvz. It'll be fun to see some more variety in top level PvP because this one gate stuff was pretty boring.
19:58 ohhh absolutely agree
At least in PvP Astrea seems to have something to say about only mechanics mattering in SC2 these days
you might think APM depends on playstyle and race but the most major expense is clicking for no reason. 150APM GM
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I think I was sitting at about 120-130 EAPM when I was GM.
@@N1rOx yeah I think my average is around 120EPM. but I've had games go as low as 90. playing stalker zlot.
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astrea has ascended
hey pig - offtopic: what mmr do u have in mechabellum atm? i played up to 1k but now ppl start to actually play well o.0 so, how much i have to grind to get near u so i have a chance to actually catch u on the ladder? =P
Is this a reupload? I feel like I've heard this commentary before.
Why MaxPax always trying escape from skirmish even when both side had similar army size. That makes his army takes unnecessary damages without strike back.
Im happy to see a NA dude be competitive! I enjoy maxpax games, and watch them all the time, but hes very predictable game to game to game. Ive also seen a maxpax "coaching" of harstem ( who im a big fan of ), being very mean to harstem and less than helpful in his "coaching" session.
GOGO ASTREA!
on another note, energy is a god send for toss early game! glhf gg!
I like Astrea games. With just a bit more confidence he would be #1.
My favorite player to watch.
He only means of re balancing is, recalling the oracles, and using them and using stasis in his field area, he won't be able to spend moeny fast enough to his gate load, so if he has a forge, cannons on the high ground will give some fire ot the lower area that astrea is pushing into... the voids are okay, but stlkaers can move away and he has no sentry... sentry' nullfied the shield... we cna look in warp timings, he was coming with 3-4 satlkers and then warped in 2 more, for 16 to 20 pop but those are now 6 stalkers the yplon is not dealt with and he is now on a easy timing of being replnished, IE 30 seconds for another 2 stalkers... which isn't huge, but if your opponent has.. 1 stalker... so yeah slowing the mineral with stasis over and over didn't really seem to stop teh moeny that much but I didnt' see a rss to see that impact, he would have had to lose hte oracles... and could of kiled 3 of the 4 stalkers.. leaving only 3 wit habout `15 seconds left, during that tiem frame he warped in 2 more, then its .. 3 verse 2 stalkers and astrea with 2 more warp in a few... but astrea would have that void ray nubmer one coming out, so it would of been.. 5 stalker, 2 stalker void ray, and 2 more stalkers for max pax, of course assumign the oracle would of wrecked the sentirse over the stalkers.. as priorty... Thats if he cna get those oracles to work.. In that regard astrea would of retreated, since the shield batteries would help mitigate, and plus he can put up a defensive stasis, and punish astrea pushign in to deep.. then suddenly its 2 v 2 situation and you ahve shieldd battery... but in the early game, two is masively better than 1... simply ebcause its twice hte production... 3 is not much better than 2... since its the waymath works... the first iteration of a secondary system doubles the net gain... the next double would be 4 gates... barracks... reactor... reactor is like a cheaper version of a barracks that significanntly boosts production level... if you have one gate and are being pushed by two gate, what can happen is you get money locked or rss locked and you have the minerals for said unit but you can use said unit. ANother interesting thing is after a warp in deconvert teh warpgate to a gateway to prodcue stalker ot gain additional 3 seconds... warp gate is useless on one gate... two gate its okay.. warp gate really benefits from mass gate ways...
BEAUTIFUL BALLS!
One gate expand worka cuz maxpqx is a god at multitasking and micro he has to be the fastest protoss player there is.
MaxPax must have got a gf recently
If there are 2 protoss in all major tournaments, it doesn't matter what changes in pvp xD
Toss has the most pro players. Unless it’s the top 8 of like Kato or whatever, most of the players involved are toss
@@andrewduan5123 Which shows how weak Protoss is, if with all those Protoss players, so few make it into even top 8 of major tournamnets.