Discernment led me out of a cult (surviving shincheonji church testimony)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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Today’s video is a testimony segment of the time God called me out of false prophecy
The words of Paul in Galatians 1:6-10 also helped me understand that the words of this group was false. Meditation in John 10: 1-18 will give you that pull as well. I encourage you to be in closeness with the Lord through his word to pull you out!
I hope you enjoy and take this as awareness from the ones leading you further from the Lord🤍
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I'm in this group called Nazarite project I started in April and everything you're talking about is exactly what's happening. And I started questioning a lot about their teachings this week and I came here on RUclips and found you.. this is a confirmation from The LORD. We do bible study Friday, Saturday and Sunday via zoom. I'm leaving right away
Gods timing never lies! He is so intentional and I’m so glad you were called out and protected🤍
Wise decision! I'm in Tues/Thurs/Sat sess. I left today after schooling my TA on how I've been drinking maddening wine of this cult. God saved me.
@@TheSeeker-p3fAMENNNNN!! Little do they know they are the false prophets they speak of !
Learn the Quran and study the way of the final prophet. May God guide us all. We sing idolise prophet Muhammad or prophet Jesus. That’s the problem as Christian’s you start off worshipping and idolising Jesus so idolising people is normal. Where as Muslims God says in Quran we are all his slaves in the of Mary even Muhammad and Jesus and Abraham Adam Noah all prophets but still so slaves of God.
@@ShanteCrawfordso Lemie ask you if you say they are false what truth do you have inorder to prove them false?
Girl, I was part of Shincheonji. And everything you said was literally my experience as well. I’m glad you got out. I hope your faith in God and Christ is still there, because for me, I couldn’t touch my bible for a while after I left. I am now studying scripture again, and renewing my faith
I wish you all the best and will keep you in my prayers 🙏
Which church were u in…what city? And how many years were u in it?
So glad you were brought out as well and I completely understand about being hesitant on touching your bible after that experience. Praying that the Lord renews your thirst for him girl!
@@DBrown-vg1fiThis was in the dmv and was approached in VA, I was in the class for 11 months but left before I could get into the church. But this church is everywhere so be careful!
@@anayaj7163Amen! Bless you
FORMER UK MEMBER HERE (5 years in SCJ):
1, First of all a MASSIVE well done Shanté for not staying, picking up on the clues and sharing this warning! The method of recruitment SCJ use is phenomenal.
2. As a former leader in my previous church, where I even sat as a Deacon and lead multiple groups and was aware of cults, SCJ is incredibly skilled at targeting and convincing people from a wide range and stages in their faith. I say this to warn any who think, "this cannot happen to me". There are sessions given with members and leaders to ensure that a tailored approach is given to every individual they recruit.
3. To Shantés point on being paired with other members in the church. This is EXACTLY what they do and is a method for them to find out information about you which is then shared internally. I.e. anything you tell someone who introduces you to the bible study, they in turn share with other members (especially the class teachers, their Cell leaders and other members (known as "Leaves") who would be assigned to monitor you whilst you are doing bible study.
4. To anyone currently attending a SCJ bible study and who is still torn thinking, "but what if Shanté didn't understand everything and should have stayed longer to find out the full truth, details and context of what they have to say". As a former member who was there for 5 years and who was a leader and assistant leader of a cell and is aware of much more of the goings on, there is nothing more that awaits except more incredibly crafted lies and tactics that are in a league of their own - well other than the methods they adopted from other cults - but members will not be told this of course. SCJ is positioned as the only church teaching and leading the way that it does, but research quickly exposes some critical origins to the methods they adopt.
5. To any CURRENT MEMBERS reading this, PLEASE LEAVE. As someone who lost a pivotal 5 years and now lives with that fact, it's not worth it. Do not worry about feelings of shame, guilt, worry, fear and the myriad of other thoughts/ emotions bombarding you - there is life after SCJ and God brings incredible healing,
6. They will use different names, often to disguise the names of their bible studies or to mask the organisation. Typically the are known as SCJ or Schincheonji, or The Temple of The Tabernacle of Testimony or New Heaven New Earth.
I pray this helps even one person! Blessings 🙏🏾
Thank you so much for this comment! This will definitely give others a whole other perspective and from an ex leaders point of view is even better. I’m sure you went through a lot spiritually and emotionally in those 5 years and I’m glad the Lord pulled you out. I also love that you mentioned how life afterwards brings so much healing because that is exactly what I felt. God bless you !
@@ShanteCrawford No problem at all! Keep fighting that good fight and thanks so much 😊🙌🏾
Wow I was in SCJ IN Atlanta GA FOR 5 years of my life as well. From really almost 6 from 19 years old to 25 yrs. I would say a huge waste of time but it’s apart of my testimony. This is a high control group and a cult. Unfortunately I was the 3rd class in the region 😅 so it was very stressful. I’m not sure what class they’re in now but 36th class just came into the church when I left a year ago they were NB’ing ( evangelizing) for that class so. It took them a year.
I witnessed physical abuse and kept asking why it was being covered up in the “sea of glass” and the regional GSN (kangsaneem) called me stupid for being raped as a virgin and refused to apologize for calling me stupid. let’s say her name is “Linny GSN” similar to this spelling.
They will appear very nice and very happy DO NOT fall for it. They’re trained overtime basically groomed to “shine the light” and have bright faces around the fruit (you the victim would be the fruit) the person or ppl that sit next to you in class are called leaves they spy on you. They take notes on what you’re doing for example Shay is scrolling instagram during intro lesson 5. She mentioned she has a boyfriend during our break ( they will try to break up ALL relationships even if you’re not fornicating)
These ppl study personality’s they have trainings on how to use tactics for heart type ppl action type ppl and head type ppl, they study enneagrams. Which is demonic. Some ppl’s parents have even been deceived
And joined SCJ while I was there. Don’t think it can’t be you.
They also threatened me to take legal action if I spoke out about the cult however my testimony is my experience and that in itself is insane.
I’m not ashamed to say I’m from the actual city of Atlanta the hood of Atlanta (Atlanuh) and I always wondered why everyone sounded the same like robots the other members were mostly from Gwinnett GA or the suburbs. They were very green and mostly all talked “proper” but then they started talking like Koreans speaking English and it was very weird and no I did not conform to this. I refused. You’re told you shouldn’t have your personality anymore literally that was said 😅. We also never evangelized in the hood they only wanted to go to Lenox mall or Ponce city market or GA State Campus and GA Tech Campus, plazas in the suburbs. Never green brier mall lmao never south lake never the west end…. Never hitting the places where ppl also need God. It’s all ridiculous if you’re afraid of going to Hell; so that’s why you haven’t left. let me give you this scripture Proverbs 6:16-19 talks about the 7 things God hates. God hates a lying tongue and haughty eyes. Haughty eyes meaning pride thinking you’re better than others and ultimately God. SCJ subliminally believes they’re better than the ppl who don’t belong to their “church” organization/cult. There is no privacy in SCJ everyone will know your business and your sin. Ex: you have a drinking problem. Anyways you will NOT go to hell for leaving however you still must renounce all their beliefs and truly accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior. SCJ is lying and even always preach revelation 22:8&16 do not add or subtract from the book of revelation or you will be cursed and name take n out the book of life meanwhile they are adding to revelation something that is literally not there. Y’all be vigilant stay prayed up.
@@kazbaby261 SO GLAD you made it out! Even happier you're able to use it as a testimony and to warn others. The best way to let God turn what Satan intended for evil, to be good for others. 🙌🏾. These videos and testimonies are going to help A LOT of people!!
Did they "make" you do the weekly exams also? As you know, we've got to say "make" (rolls eyes) because SCJ are brilliant at getting you to do what they want through subtle guilt tactics, or suggestions, where saying no is essentially being rebellious to God.
Without a doubt though, the breakdown of friend/ family relationships this group carries out is amongst the most painful. And the confidence in how they do it is frightening.
I've been to South Korea to visit the Philip Tribe headquarters and visit some other "important" locations related to the cult. It's crazy the scale they have out there.
(From the UK here)
This!!!! I literally began to clock something is not right ! Little things began to add up and I left blocked everyone ! I literally spent 2 and half months with these people sharing too much about my life, I was soooooo mad at myself because I usually don’t trust people easily but as you said it can literally happen to anyone.
Two black girls approached me in a Target, complemented my hair and invited me to a Bible study last year. 1 girl was super confident and pushy and the other was obviously taking notes! I told them girls no i already have a strong relationship with God and they still pressed me! I said “ we are in Target this is not the time “ messed up my whole target experience by harassing me about this “Bible study”😩. They aim for young black women who are by themselves and look vulnerable. I’m glad you got out 🙌🏾 and are learning to listen to Him. Keep reading your Bible girl that is key!
Amen! Not the Target experience it just had to be there 😩 I 100% agree they definitely aim for young woman the most which is sickening. But I am glad that you stood firm in your decision hopefully your comment will give somebody that same encouragement if they are ever approached !
I got recruited in a target it happened right after my grams died. Weird how they got me in a vulnerable moment. I joined a Zoom for like 6 months but ended up leaving because it was getting weird af.
@@dudebro9420Yes, but do not let the deciet of the devil keep you away from taking God seriously! This is only a trick and a counterfeit of the real thing! I will be praying for you and Jesus loves you!
Thank you for this. I'm based in London and SCJ tried to recruit me - had no idea it was them until months after i stopped engaging with them. I noticed something wasn't right just before you move on from the small group to some course. An old friend invited me out, and I met a few of them and then they asked me to meet a woman, who they thought id get along with - which i did. I really opened up to her. It was the whole secrecy, sharing details about me, trying to force me on the course instead of going on a holiday I had planned that made me realise something wasn't right. I left and one day I read about SCJ,and did further digging only to find out that indeed it was them. All in all, the bible study led me to reading the bible for myself, and learn about God, Christianity all by myself.
This is basically what happened to me! I’m from London too, born and raised. And I was looking to make Christian friends so I downloaded bumble bff. I matched with a girl and she gave me her number straight away which I found very abrupt and a bit weird. She then began texting me and invited me to a Christian event. She never told me about any Bible studying. They are very secretive! So I was feeling unwell and had a cold or a flu and she kept pushing me to come to the event! So I thought okay maybe she’s just extroverted and comes off as pushy and bossy. So I thought let me go to the event. When I got to the event there were other young (20-25 year old) black Christian UK women. I thought woah I finally have Christian friends. We got along during the event but when the event ended and I was ready to go home one of the women were being very pushy towards me and basically forced me to join Bible studying. So I just joined. The next day when I was at home she messaged me saying let’s meet up for Bible studying so I did. The women told me that she doesn’t believe in dreams and that God cannot give you signs and messages in dreams. She also said that she doesn’t cancel bad dreams because it shows you’re fearful and don’t have faith in God basically. Whilst reading the Bible during the “Bible studying” I looked up and caught the woman giving me an evil glare. Then she registered me with the Bible course and they go by the name “Bible promise course” again I thought it was just a normal Bible course. She said the course is 6 months long and it will be with online and in person students. I was on TikTok one day and I was just scrolling causally and that’s when I saw a video of a black British Christian woman warning others that SCJ are a Korean cult and that they are recruiting people in London via the name “Bible promise course” I said no way. That’s when I went on the Bible promise course website and read the details properly. I found out that the course is ran by the same people that run SCJ. God saved me from these evil people. We must forgive and pray for them!
You are not alone. I left 3 years ago. I was invited into it by a friend. I stayed up to the point where I wanted to take the Bible classes again but I was conflicted and stressed because I had a lot going on. I ended up asking my pastor’s wife about it and she confirmed that I should leave because it wasn’t the truth. The friendships were the part that hurt me most because we got so close. Suffice to say, I don’t speak to any of them anymore. I pray everyone can get out safely.
So glad God called you out as well, yes so many friendships were made in the class which is the sad part. Prayer is powerful I trust God will call them all out 🙌🏾
@@ShanteCrawford Amen!!!
This is how I got sucked into it as well. 2022 was a wild year for me cause I never thought I'd ever get into a cult. I hated how naive I was and that grew my discernment a lot. I'm praying for everyone ignorantly wrapped up in cults and lies. The enemy also listens to your prayers
Yes, but no need to be afraid because God is always so much mighter than the devil! Stay strong and weary of the devil's schemes, but remember this is only an attack by the devil to keeep you from the real thing, Truth in Jesus Christ! Do not let this experience encourage you to leave/forget God; just a friendly reminder! I love you and I will be praying from you as well!
Similar experience with the group. What it taught me is that the Devil listens to our prayers and will make things available when we want them.
Amen, that part!
Wow! This video helped me realize I was being recruited in Boston, MA. Thankfully I was saved and involved in a healthy church community. My pastor had mentioned people from other churches don’t heavily recruit for “Bible studies”in this way. I never joined the bigger Bible study. I had done a couple smaller Bible studies at a coffee shop & zoom. The girl (Korean) who recruited me would never give the name of the church or details. She made it seem urgent that I join but I actually couldn’t because I’m on my churches worship team and we rehearse Thursday’s.
So glad you had that community to inform you and that you were called out! God is good🙌🏾
*warning super long post 😅*
I had this happen to me earlier this year. I was only attending the Bible study for about 2-3 weeks, mostly just to see what they were am about. But even just that relatively short amount of time really had me highly disappointed in myself. I have a very personal relationship with God, and a few years back I started learning in more depth (literally no one taught me or recruited me. I purely asked God, why are things so backwards, and started doing more research about certain mainstream doctrines that are taught to believers, and the Holy spirt started revealing them to me). I have learned so much, and am quick to point out when a doctrine isnt in line with what scripture actually says. So I never fully believed anything that those people were telling me. My approach is always, let me test your fruit first. Just like you described, I met someone at a store and she invited me to Bible study. She was constantly texting me and inviting me to lunch. Fortunately, due to my personal walk and in depth study, I actually keep the Sabbath as biblically described, so I wasn’t available to meet up with her as she always wanted to meet on Fridays and Saturdays. Biblical Sabbath starts sundown Friday and ends sundown Saturday. Biblically you aren’t to buy or sell, or make other people work. So going out to eat with her on those days was an automatic no. And the other days there was the zoom Bible study. Just like you I was praying for God to lead me to friends that are rooted in him. In fact, I had said a prayer in my car about this right before I entered the store. But i am aware that the enemy sends counterfeits when he knows you are looking for something from God. So my thing again is to not get too deep right off the bat. So I didn’t share any personal information with this lady I met, and I refused to put my camera on in the class because if i can’t even know the name of this organization (they gave us some rangin random general name) why do you need to see my face. I think they like it so they can watch you and see if you’re believing their BS or not. I never met the lady after our first meeting because I’m not meeting you over Shabbat sorry ma’am. At one point i did tell her that i observe the biblical Sabbath. She tried to connect with me on that point by asking if i was a seventh day adventist, or Jewish, and it's okay because we are all the same sisters. I am neither. I just told her I follow the Bible like the Bible says to follow the Bible sans man made doctrines. She started growing distant from me since then, only texting to make sure i was going to the Bible study, not the multiple random texts throughout the day. That's another thing they do, they just so happen to have the same interest or life circumstances as you, so you feel like you can relate to them. So they will pull information out of you, and try to make themselves match whatever you told them. But my path is hard to fake, so she couldn't connect with it.
My experience during the class was early on i noticed that i didn’t know who in the zoom meetings were the recruiters and who were the recruited like me. Like you said that was a red flag. I noticed that they don't answer certain questions. They always say "in the next class or in the in depth Bible study". I also mostly noticed that they try to make you question your own walk with God, And question the Holy spirit that leads you. So even though I knew they were BS-ing, somehow I started questioning myself and my journey which is what I was really disappointed in myself about. I was like girl… why are you questioning yourself. God has literally revealed his truth to you himself without any influence from other people. But they work on your hunger to get closer to God, and make you question the validity of your journey, and then tell you that they can “teach you”. No one has taught me anything The Holy sprit has lead me into what I’ve learned. But i started questioning myself using their phrases and questions. It reminds me of that verse that says Even the very elect are at risk of being deceived in the end times. I was able to pry some information out of my recruiter and used that to doa search and learned who these people are. ShincheonJi or NEW HEAVEN NEW EARTH in English. My experience taught me that I truly need to be rooted in the word and lead by the spirit in todays age, because idk if anyone else has noticed its been looking like Revelations outside for the past few years.
Something the Holy Spirit has revealed to me is that the MO of Satan hasn't changed since the garden. Everything that pulls you away from God has more or less this same pattern. 1) He gets you to doubt/reject the true word of God, 2) Manipulates your mindset by mixing truth with lies/misrepresenting truth, and 3) He gives you his version of truth (which always turns out to be straight lies, but you wont find out till waaaaay later), and his lie always makes you yourself or someone/thing else your God. This group and most other cults follow this same pattern. If you look closely the majority of evil in this world follows this same pattern.
In the garden:
Eve tells satan that God says not to eat from this tree because she will die. Satan says "is that what God really said?" = doubt/reject Gods word
Satan says "you shall not SURELLY die". Which was some what true. They didn't physically die right then, but they did die an immediate spiritual death which leads to them eventually dying physical deaths later. Now every human has to die, and our saviour had to die to restore mankind back to everlasting life. The wages of sin (aka disobedience) is death.= mixing truth with lies/misrepresenting truth.
Satan says God doesn't want you to eat it because "you will be like God, knowing right from evil". Which is a lie. The truth= God wants us to learn all things from him and not use our own ways. He wants us to get our wisdom from him and his word, not outside sources. Eating from that tree puts distance between humans and God because now humans think they know everything, when we actually know nothing. When we consult with ourselves or others instead of God, by default the worship goes to that source instead of God. Remeber Satan's characteristic "I will be like God" Isaiah 14:13-14. He wants us to be like HIM, and his root is disobedience.= his lie makes you/someone/thing else your God
This group starts by making you doubt the word of God that is plain as day written in black and white in the Bible, and they make you feel like you can't understand the Bible unless they teach it to you = the first part of satans equation. Then they mix truth with lies/misrepresent truth by twisting scripture all around= this is what their Bible studies are all about. Brainwashing you with their false doctrines. And then lastly they tell you the lie they want you to believe, that LMH is Christ incarnate = you graduate from the Bible study and join the church.
*God says "my people perish for the lack of knowledge". They didnt know this in the garden, and they didnt consult with God before doing so (think king David's pattern. King David always asked/verified with God before he did something (except for those 2 incidences: Bathsheba and the return of the ark). If Eve had said "wait, let me ask God first and confirm" God would have been like "Girl NO! Don't eat dat!"
The thing about Satan is his overt goal isn't necessarily for you to worship him. It's for you not to worship the one true God. That's it. That's all he wants. Why? Because he is the father of disobedience and false worship. So if you aren't aligned with God, by default you are aligned with Satan. I've seen so many of these cult expose videos and many people say because of their bad experience and trauma that they are stepping away from God. And that's exactly where the enemy wants them so the enemy has still won in their case. The enemy doesn't care if you go to Shincheonji or whatever. The only goal is to remove your seat in salvation. He's going to do what ever to achieve that. He already knows he's lost the game, he just wants as much company as he can get. I thank God for his wisdom to teach me these things. I praise God that you don't seem to have gone the way of giving up your walk with God, and I pray for the people that have abandoned their walk with God due to things like this.
1) Yes! The weather has been looking real Revelations recently! (Matt. 16:3)
2) Love the wording and your delivery with the Word!
3) I'm proud of you for your journey in Christ (obedience), can I ask how long you've been on this independent journey for? My journey isn't as individualized (I'm assuming you are in a deep level of solitude in your walk?), as I still listen to (sound & bible-led) teachers. BTW, Jerry Flower @ Redefined TV on RUclips is GREAT and God is doing MIRACULOUS THINGS through him.
I will pray for you and I am SO glad Jesus brought you out of that; now you have the truth in Jesus Christ! Amen and Amen!!!
Was invited to something similar in Cape Town, SA. But funny enough a week or weeks leading into the event, I had actually had a dream about an aggressive cult. But I didn’t pay attention, only to realise after I had been to a few meetings. Funny enough there were guys that were invested in trying to recruit me, one pretended to be new to this alongside me, while the other dude was the “descipler”, we opened the scriptures and I would refute a lot, with a lot of respect and I eventually told the dudes that I wasn’t keen on meeting up no more. That was the end of even the catch ups, glad I left because I saw the cult signs.
God will always triumph and has triumph over the devil! Stay strong and weary of the devil's schemes, but remember this is only an attack by the devil to keeep you from the real thing, Truth in Jesus Christ! Do not let this experience encourage you to leave/forget God; just a friendly reminder! I love you and I will be praying from you as well!
Earlier this year,2024, I joined their online Bible study classes. I attended every class and aced every test. I love studying the Bible so I was very interested to learn more. However, I was praying about the Bible study as well, if it was Gods will for me.
Then one day out of nowhere they just dropped me! They said that I wasn’t sincere enough😧 I took it as Gods answer to my prayer. HalleluYah! God saved me.
They dropped you?? As in, told you you couldn't come back? What made them think you weren't being sincere?
@@Rebecca23434 I honestly have no idea. I attended every class even though the timing wasn’t convenient- I still did it because I was doing it as a service to God.
Then my mentor sent me a message saying that I’m being dropped from this class because they didn’t find me sincere. I could however join in their new session if I was still interested.
Needless to say, I was no longer interested.
Hi Who was your teacher I'm still in the class I'm in Rev now but they asked some personal questions wed gone & I think I didn't answered them how they expected & I haven't heard back fr them
@@DaughterofElRoyreally that crazy how would she know that smdh
I see the class gets really small that I am in so they drop ppl I thought ppl were failing the exam that's why the class got smaller
I used to be in this cult, it's actually easy to be deceived because most of us do not know the present Gospel of Salvation according to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV and know God's will for everyone. It's easy to be saved, all you have to do is put your trust on what Christ did for you on the cross ( Christ's finished work on the cross). Faith comes from hearing! Trust Jesus Christ of the scripture not the religion of Christianity because most denominations accept men's traditions, they do not obey the Gospel of Christ and they mix law and grace.
This lady befriended me at the park. She invited me to her church, we exchanged numbers. I did eventually go but the vibe was weird, the eyes gave cult. That's all i needed. I was out.
Amennn you said NOPE! 😂
@@anayaj7163 No man nor devil can do that 😊
Thank you for your prayers
YES! I’m from London and they tried to recruit me too! The lady eyes was all I needed to know. Amongst other things, like the fact they lady told me that God can’t give you signs in dreams. I was out!
Hi! They are recruiting people in France too! They stopped me in malls or train stations. I almost got in after attending a conference about self development but I was not feeling at all, because the lady wanted me to do 1-1 bible study 3 times a week before I could join the academy, she was talking a lot about the revelation book, how they study it in deep and I thought it was too much
Oh and she also told me « people are saying a lot of stuff on this church online don’t look it up just ask me » so obviously i looked it up lmao
God takes what the enemy meant for evil and uses it for good. In this case for exposure of this cult. God bless you!
Amen! God bless you🤍
This is so good, don’t feel embarrassed. Anything can happen to anyone if His Word is not our foundation.
I’ll say this bc it’s something I’m getting better at too, no judgement. When we wanna leave a group/ministry (and you know that feeling is coming from God, not pride or offense) we don’t owe anyone a text or explanation on why we leaving. We answer to GOD and GOD alone. That explanation could be the very thing that pulls us back into chaos cause they’ll make us feel like we’re overthinking.
Thanks for sharing your testimony.
Amen Amen you are speaking ! I agree God is the only authority we owe an answer to , lord willing your comment can also lead others if they are in the same situation !
Thanks for posting this. Looking at all of these videos, I am more disappointed and hurt than angry.
I was approached by two young women in a Walmart. It was right after church and they complemented my suit jacket. They asked me how long I had been Christian. I told them it had not been very long. They said they wanted to hear my testimony and we exchanged numbers. Later they introduced me to another young man who offered to go over the Bible with me. It seemingly went well, then he introduced me to another guy who was leading a zoom class. I attended the class for months (as the classes got progressively longer) until they mentioned that “figurative John” was a person that was living in Korea right now. That was just a bridge too far. Red flags and alarm bells went off. I just couldn’t go any further
Hi, I just went through the SAME EXACT experience. Thank you for shining light on this b/c I was 2 weeks away from “graduating”. I kept noticing red flags but ignored them b/c they were nice & seemed genuine. However, I thank God for protecting me & helping me with discernment. I blocked them last night
Hi I'm in the class are you in the usa, they asked some personal questions on wed survey I think they don't like my answers so I didn't hear back fr them
Girl!!! They tried to get me into that cult too! Honestly there are so many cults like this on college campuses which is kinda scary
Yess it’s insane ! They are everywhere and the fact that they gravitate towards young people on campuses and in general is sad
Sis the same thing happened to me last year and let me tell you I didn't ever think I would be tricked into being in a cult because I thought I was smart but nope lol. So this is the story (2022) I decided to restart my relationship with Christ and I really wanted to be around other Christians to help me grow in my faith. So I prayed and prayed to god to help me find a Christian community until a girl randomly approached me one day when I was studying on campus. I was 21 and she already graduated 2 years before me making her 24. She said she was doing a survey (no pen or paper in sight) and asked me a question (I can't remember verbatim) "What kept me going" and I said my faith. We soon became friends and we got quite close. texting almost every day. She has a super bubbly personality and she also started telling me some of her family secrets and personal things and I believed god answered my prayers. Safe to say we got really close. (Keep in mind I was in an emotionally vulnerable time when all this was happening due to my dad being sick as I usually don't trust people quickly ) She told me how she wanted to grow her relationship with god as well and how we should study the bible together and I was on board. She then told me she actually has another friend who "is more knowledgeable" and told me that all 3 of us should study together. Then it became just me and the girl she introduced me to. We kept going for months meeting in person even at times. The red flags however started to show when I would miss these bible studies. She would read me versus and scold me about how I am not sacrificing my time to god therefore I would not be seeing the kingdom and she does it in a way that is convincing lol. She would seem to ignore me whenever I tell her that we are saved by grace, not by works. Anyway, she then told me her other friend started a bigger bible study and she wanted me to join I said I couldn't because I am super busy with work and school and the only time I have is to do bible study is with her( 2X A WEEK FOR 2 HOURS). Safe to say this upset her very much and she again told me that If I am not sacrificing my time to meet with them then I am going to hell basically and how the bible study grp is transformative to help us understand parables and prophesies. As soon as she said this I knew I needed to dip and I left immediately. I have given up on finding Christian friends or even going to bible study group. I want to just study the bible cover to cover and be more knowledgeable so I don't fall in deception ever again. By any chance are you in the DMV area? Jesus Christ, omg they took me out to coffee first, then korean bbq as well....what the hell???
The similarities of both our stories is crazy and yess they are definitely strategic in their ways which is scary !! So glad you trusted the spirit and got out 🙌🏾
Thank you so much for your testimony ! It appeases me a lot to hear all of this because I feel less alone. In may I actually got into this shincheonji "bible study" and stayed for 2 months despite witnessing many of the red flags you mentioned. Classes were about an hour and a half, 3 evenings a week, and we had homework each time. Honesty it just consumed my soul and body the whole time I was in it. I was exhausted, could not focus on work, had no time for friends, family or hobbies. We were encouraged to lie to our relatives and hide the bible study from them. I think the exhaustion caused me not to think clearly anymore, I was completely brainwashed and out of discernment. The last time I went, a brave guy from the class suddenly accused them of being a cult in front of everyone and exposed the whole scheme. It was a slap in the face, but it was just what I needed to wake up ! That evening when I got home, I blocked all of them, the "teachers", "managers" and the girls who recruited me and were pretending to go to the class with me. Can you believe that three days later, these CRAZY ASS people actually came and waited for me in from of the company I work for ??! At night ?! Scary ass hell and traumatizing bro. I will never be caught in something like this again.
Lol they came to my job too
Girl, been there done that. Praise the Lord that he delivered us from this. They really out here saying that the holy land is North Korea… the moment I heard this I dipped.
My boyfriend was invited by a coworker for Bible studies. I kept hounding him like who are these people constantly blowing you up and also doing free Bible studies? What church are they affiliated with? He could never answer what their program was called. His evangelist started telling him to not tell me about his studies and that he should not go to church with me. Finally I got to the bottom of it, found the name was “New Earth Ministry” and found out it was the SJC cult. My boyfriend felt BETRAYED by his coworker.
They approached me on Facebook in 2022😭. When they introduced their pastor and the "new John" I was like nope. This is not from God.
Amennn I’m glad you used your discernment before being pulled into the lies! God bless!💓
They are EVERYWHEREEE and they piss me off🙄
Literally swarms of them !!😭 we gotta spread the word lol
I pray you can still be in a great and close relationship with the Almighty God . God bless you . ❤
May God bless and keep you!🤍
Wow you described every single emotion I’ve been feeling
I live in Australia I also left but 4 months in when they mentioned about the figurative mountain but I prayed like 3 weeks before I left and ended up having a dream etc and left
And also I also realize how far I drifted from God. Every time I went I felt angry for no reason😭
@@elitesylla50 yess! there was like a weight of negative emotions, anger, frustration, etc every time I went, glad God called you out 🙌🏾
@@elitesylla50 oh my God, I felt same, frustration, anger and all that.. where you guys also learning about the figurative meqnings of the seed, pots, etc. I been there for 4 months now
I also felt so angry and overwhelmed every time I studied with them!! I mentioned it to them and they said that anger is the enemy trying to stop a good thing from happening. When I left and told them I found out they were SCJ they were like “I told you from the beginning the enemy will try to prevent you from getting closer to God.”Their response was so manipulative and only confirmed it was God who revealed to me who they were not Satan.
@@blessieupendo5866yes! they talked about the seed, bowl, branches all of that 😭
I think I encountered a similar situation recently. I was searching for more Christian friends and Met this girl through bumble bff. At some point, she told me about all the virtual bible studies and seminar classes she was doing through a church in Chicago and invited me to come to one. I told her I am a in-person person but I'm willing to attend a bible study. I went and the girl wasn't even there but days later called me asking if I liked it. I immediately started asking questions such as, is there a website or social media page where I can find out more info about the church; what's the church denomination, etc. She had no info only zoom links and fliers.
Finally met her in person and she seem cool. She asked me if I liked the book of Revelations and if I wanted to attend the seminars for it. I reminded her that I prefer in person events so I wouldn't really attend. A few days later, she messaged me about attending an upcoming BS and if I was free at that time. That annoyed me because I knew I was clear before so I told her no, I'm not free. But my spiritual discernment was alert because her trying to get me to attending BS's and classes virtually when I already said how I felt about that let me know her motives and intentions needed to be watched and for me to proceed with caution. A few days later, she checked in on me and invited me to start classes. I straight ignored her and stopped responding all together.
I literally said, it feels like this is a cult that she is trying to deceitfully lure me into. But what she didn't know was I have a hard boundary for anyone who dismisses what I say and still try to get me to do what they want.
Girl, I wrote my comment before you even mentioned the book of Revelations. As soon as I unpaused the video, you spoke it.
Thank you for sharing! I was just in the new comers education and I left this week after being told I needed to get their permission to move or to date someone. That was my final red flag. I went off on my evangelist (not that she had done anything wrong I kinda just word vomited and sobbed) and started doing research. Thank GOD he pulled us out. Now we need to pray without ceasing for those still under the false prophet and under the spirit of fear. My heart breaks for my brothers and sisters still in there. These innocent people think they are leading you to the kingdom of Heaven and they are terrified to research because they are scared of being poisoned. This is truly one of the worst cults in history. They are so deceptive even in their recruiting. 😢
I was told the same when I mentioned moving to Texas to my friend in the class, she took that piece of info and told one of the leaders and they spoke about moving that same lesson and tried to say it was God 😭 so deceiving and sad! Yes so glad God brought us out and praying for those who are still being deceived💔
God is so good, when my grandpa died they found me in a christian group chat. The holy spirit told me not to stay from the beginning when they said they had test. Then after they did the graduation the spirit of discernment really came. I left 2 months after the graduation, and it made me question all my decisons. I'm so happy you left❤
Amen! So glad you were given that discernment from the Holy Spirit🤍 God is proud of us! God Bless you
thank you so much for sharing! your testimony is so important an will help a lot of people worldwide
the whole point on me joining their bible study was me trying to get desernment like my siser did and get close with God but when i joined even after i been there for almost 7 month now i don't feel like i'm getting closer to him i just feel like it's all head knowledge and they toldme God has nothing to do with my feelings and i believed like everything about what you said is my reality till today my friend sent me a video about it cus i never really loooked it up then i went searching for more and found this honestly, i am now struggling to understand what is now true and what isn't
I advise prayer and asking the Holy Spirit to give you strong and clear discernment on leaving. The knowledge that they tell you gets so wrapped up in your head that it confuses you to a point where you’re questioning everything. But the fact that you’re not getting closer to God is one discernment right there. God bless you in this decision and I pray clarity and peace in what you decide to do!
amen to these scriptures sis! sorry this happened but so grateful God led you out❤
You know what... this is so timely. I joined a group...a "bible study" and something felt off in my spirit but I stayed anyway. They mentioned that Jesus had already returned and was walking around somewhere. That was such a red flag!! I stayed for a few more weeks to make sure I was understanding them correctly and then I left. This testimony really speaks to me. Thank You for your testimony. God Bless You!
This video encourages me to always test the spirit and trust my gut when I’m not at peace about someone or something.
Amen yess use that discernment it never lies ! God bless 🤍
Thank you so much for sharing your story!! I just left the bible study. This is almost my exact same story. I'm in the DMV too. The way this group is operating is truly sick. I prayed for a community of like-minded people to gain friendship and grow closer to God but in turn I got the opposite. It hurt me that they lied to my face for so long. In the back of my mind, I knew something was off with them but kept attending because I started to cherish the community aspect of it all. I even started to feel physically sick right before each class. I think this was my body trying to tell me to get out! It's so sad that they have no regard for how this mental warfare affects the individual person. They are just so focused on recruiting and growing the church members. When they started to mention the promised pastor I knew it was time for me to start researching and I left.
Which area of the dmv? Ashburn? Do you remember what the pastor's name is?
Amen so glad you were led to remove yourself!! It truly is very heartbreaking that all these people are being led astray, I’m praying the Lord gathers all his lost sheep
The one I was in we met and were based more in the Fairfax area but they recruit all over the dmv
I think this might be the bible study that I went to back in 2019ish (in England!) but I had other commitments and had to stop going a few weeks in ( they had 3 lessons a week) so I can’t confirm if they are the same. I also had an event before I started and some sort of ‘interview/discussion’ before I started
It’s so funny because I kept telling my friend I went with that this bible study is ‘giving cult’. They were so secretive and said not to exchange numbers and not to tell family and friends because they’ll discourage us etc.
sometimes they’d make analysis of things about Jesus/the bible and it would make me side eye because of the implications of what they were saying.
One of the other reasons I thought it was weird, was that each ‘leader’ of the bible study would give a story about their traumatic past and try to get you to share something as well. It just felt very off, almost fake
Yes everything you mentioned sounds just like shincheonji and I know I tried to start a group chat with some of the girls and they all looked at me like I was crazy ! I’m glad you didn’t move forward with the class
I’m from London, born and raised. And I was looking to make Christian friends so I downloaded bumble bff. I matched with a girl and she gave me her number straight away which I found very abrupt and a bit weird. She then began texting me and invited me to a Christian event. She never told me about any Bible studying. They are very secretive! So I was feeling unwell and had a cold or a flu and she kept pushing me to come to the event! So I thought okay maybe she’s just extroverted and comes off as pushy and bossy. So I thought let me go to the event. When I got to the event there were other young (20-25 year old) black Christian UK women. I thought woah I finally have Christian friends. We got along during the event but when the event ended and I was ready to go home one of the women were being very pushy towards me and basically forced me to join Bible studying. So I just joined. The next day when I was at home she messaged me saying let’s meet up for Bible studying so I did. The women told me that she doesn’t believe in dreams and that God cannot give you signs and messages in dreams. She also said that she doesn’t cancel bad dreams because it shows you’re fearful and don’t have faith in God basically. Whilst reading the Bible during the “Bible studying” I looked up and caught the woman giving me an evil glare. Then she registered me with the Bible course and they go by the name “Bible promise course” again I thought it was just a normal Bible course. She said the course is 6 months long and it will be with online and in person students. I was on TikTok one day and I was just scrolling causally and that’s when I saw a video of a black British Christian woman warning others that SCJ are a Korean cult and that they are recruiting people in London via the name “Bible promise course” I said no way. That’s when I went on the Bible promise course website and read the details properly. I found out that the course is ran by the same people that run SCJ. God saved me from these evil people. We must forgive and pray for them!
Acts 5:38
Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
[39] But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
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Amen
GIRL!!! Here from Australia, I've been studying it for the last 9months and have just been told the organisation. I just realised their focus is not on Jesus. But on the "new" John in the SC. I have pulled back since and they have called me none stop. Tomorrow I'm meant to have a Bible study session to go through the revelation classes I've missed. And I'm going to cancel with them tonight. I never felt so far away from God as I did in this Bible studies. They rope you in with all the Bible knowledge that other church don't teach and that's what got me. I remembered a saying this morning as I was trying to figure out what to do.. while you're praying to God, there is another set of ears that listening. I'm a bit torn but I know this isn't right. And when I said " it's hard for me to believe that a man in Korea" is the "dim light" before Christ comes again, their response was always "well what about John the Baptist. No one believed him"
I hear you! Yes that tug on your heart is the Holy Spirit giving you that tap on your shoulder to open your eyes to the truth❤️ I pray over you sis that the lord will guide you out with peace and comfort. He’s ready to welcome you back into his arms
@@ShanteCrawfordamen! God is soooo good! I just wanted to update you on my visit, I told them that I was not going to watch any further lessons and they invited me to the centre to discuss it. Before I did, I went into their website and OMG, something stood out, the "new John" narrates his history on the website and what shocked me was..he states that he made a blood covenant. MY HEART SANK. Jesus was the sacrificial lamb that poured His blood for our sins. Once Jesus fulfilled his works on earth we no longer needed to do blood sacrifices. Let me tell you when I questioned the teacher about that, she kept saying that Jesus was here to fulfil the prophecy and that He sacrifice was not to say that it was the last sacrifice. I told her that your Christianity isn't focused on Jesus, and the fact they believe that the Holy Spirit is only in the new John is something I refuse to believe. She was shocked. I said this is a man. When I asked her straight do you believe that you will physically die, that your flesh will die.. because it seems like you believe your flesh does not die and that you believe in PHYSICAL ETERNAL LIFE.. she said yes that the Bible talks about physical eternal life in the Revelations. I just said thank you for what you've taught me and left. I WAS DISGUSTED THAT THEY KEPT THEIR BELIEVES AWAY FROM ME FOR 9 months. I can only pray for them and the friends I've lost to them. But God is Good and will not be mocked. Any organisation that refused to proudly testify to their Faith and the testimony of their Church from the beginning are deceived and deceitful. When I left, sis let me tell you, the weight that was on my shoulders were gone, the joy I felt come back to my heart was something I've lost for over 9 months. Praise God!!!
Man my “sword sister” came to me after I posted about wanting to get closer to CTM me and invited me to this Bible Study I am six months in and yesterday she told me that this is her second time taking the class and it threw up so many red flags because she was acting like an extra day just to go over the content again. But she was acting like she was clueless so once we got to the end of the parable section, I started questioning. Why was it such a big secret? I blocked all of them.
For the class Shante did they have you wear headphones and talk alot about the parables and the secrets of heaven? I did a google search on parables and manna and a Schincheonji korean language came up I've only been in it for a few months but I"m out I feel embarassed about being in it but I'm glad im out
@@christianity-ff6hr don’t feel embarrassed Jesus called you out and you heard his voice🙌🏾 Im sure he is so proud of you. But yes we were told to wear headphones to keep the lessons from the people around us and they focused heavily on parables and created definitions
I also almost joined this cult. I had just lost my husband in 2021 and was all alone in a new area. I joined Bumble for friends. This girl pretended like she was my friend. I went through the Bible studies, but I felt like something was off. Luckily I trusted my gut feeling. Plus, I also watch way too many cult docs lol. Glad you were able to get out! Thank you for talking about it.
I’m so sorry for the loss of your husband and that you were robbed and deceived in that time of need of true friendship. I’m glad you trusted your gut before you got further into the class! May God bless and keep you!🤍
@@ShanteCrawford I appreciate your kind words. I am so thankful to God and my family. May God bless you as well!
I’m from London, born and raised. And I was looking to make Christian friends so I downloaded bumble bff. I matched with a girl and she gave me her number straight away which I found very abrupt and a bit weird. She then began texting me and invited me to a Christian event. She never told me about any Bible studying. They are very secretive! So I was feeling unwell and had a cold or a flu and she kept pushing me to come to the event! So I thought okay maybe she’s just extroverted and comes off as pushy and bossy. So I thought let me go to the event. When I got to the event there were other young (20-25 year old) black Christian UK women. I thought woah I finally have Christian friends. We got along during the event but when the event ended and I was ready to go home one of the women were being very pushy towards me and basically forced me to join Bible studying. So I just joined. The next day when I was at home she messaged me saying let’s meet up for Bible studying so I did. The women told me that she doesn’t believe in dreams and that God cannot give you signs and messages in dreams. She also said that she doesn’t cancel bad dreams because it shows you’re fearful and don’t have faith in God basically. Whilst reading the Bible during the “Bible studying” I looked up and caught the woman giving me an evil glare. Then she registered me with the Bible course and they go by the name “Bible promise course” again I thought it was just a normal Bible course. She said the course is 6 months long and it will be with online and in person students. I was on TikTok one day and I was just scrolling causally and that’s when I saw a video of a black British Christian woman warning others that SCJ are a Korean cult and that they are recruiting people in London via the name “Bible promise course” I said no way. That’s when I went on the Bible promise course website and read the details properly. I found out that the course is ran by the same people that run SCJ. God saved me from these evil people. We must forgive and pray for them!
You know what's so odd someone else said this was the cult I joined back in Atlanta in 2018. I was oddly enough in college at the time and I was walking out of my college and these two people stopped me and they was like "You want to talk about Jesus?" and I said yeah I want to talk about Jesus. Now the second time they were suppose to meet up with me but they sent someone else because they said their car broke down. Than the other person they sent he met up with me maybe 4 times in the lobby of my student apartments going over the Bible. Then I ended up meeting someone he was suppose to come. She said his car broke down 😹. I don't know how I kept going then, but I did. I then met up with her a few times before meeting up with another lady you guessed it the other lady was supposed to meet up with me too but her car was broke down. I met up with her maybe 2 or 3 times before she told me about the Bible study in Lawrenceville. The lady straight up told me I couldn't let anyone know where I was going and I went back and forth with her like I can't lie. But like you, I actually prayed about having Godly friends, maybe a month or 2 prior I was going to a music college in the middle of downtown Atlanta and everyone around me was trying to tear me away from God and it was getting overwhelming. So when the lady was like I need to know you're serious about God I just kind of folded and decided to go. It was at this office building with a whole bunch of people about my age (including the first 3 people I met). All were led by Korean teaching and, they told you to pray when you came in and we would have like test over Bible verses we had to remember word from word and if you didn't remember it they would shame you about it. I finally left maybe like a month or 2 later I went home to Michigan for a doctor's appointment because I didn't have insurance in Georgia. The lady who was like my mentor when I was home wanted to do a Bible study with me over zoom but I was at my mom's house and she wanted me to like go in the bathroom or outside so my mom couldn't hear. I'm like lady I ain't doing all that 😹. I came back I talked to her for like maybe 2 hours went maybe one more time and the head lady had a talk with me because I was now more on this I got to lie thing seemed insane she used a out of context Bible verse where Paul talks about he becomes all things to all people. I read that chapter in full and the other one before showing the lady that's not what that means and she straight face tried to be like yeah but Jacob lied and God blessed him 😹. I knew then I couldn't go no more. I had planned on going the next day my mentor text me something and I just didn't feel right in my spirit so I blocked everyone so they couldn't get in contact with me anymore.
Wow that is a testimonyyy 🙌🏾 and the car break downs I’m sorry but that took me out 😂 yess everything you mentioned from the tests, to the getting down on your knees to pray when you come in, to the secrecy it’s all so similar. I’m glad that you trusted your spirit and stood firm in what you felt 👏🏾
Powerful testimony!! Definitely keep on posting!
Absolutely! :)
Thanks for sharing and raising awareness. ❤
Of course!❤️
They are back now in Melbourne, I got recruited and the Bible study has something that is so unsettling,different from my local church preaching. It is horrific and manipulative, trying to talk me away from my family, my girlfriend, my college course and my church. The preaching get longer and more suffocating, and the students and preacher kept on calling me, harassing me with messages. I finally got out because my local church and community reached out at me and saved me, informed me about the cult.
Please, make more people see this video and take care of yourselves. May God bless you all.❤
I also was recruited in the DMV in 2023. I felt something was off, but they wouldn’t tell people who they were until we had already started getting the questions for the test. I was at least committed until I found out who these people were, so I could warn others. I didn’t leave my church despite their constant push. I confronted my “friends” who invited me to it. I’m praying they’ll get out of it. They always teach that most churches don’t teach about the parables. Unbeknownst to them, my church has and I’ve read the Bible for myself. I literally had only joined to study Revelation because my friend said it was a cover to cover Bible study. I didn’t stay to hear their explanation of Revelation. I don’t think I could stomach it.
I’m glad you were brought out , girl I could not stomach it either I made my decision to leave that same day we had class and knew I would not be able sit through another lesson. There were so many of us in the dmv classes but yes praying that those who are still in it will trust the spirit and hear Gods voice to come out
@@ShanteCrawford Thank God, He brought you out. Thank you for having the courage to speak about your experience. It will definitely help more people than you know.
Hey, I started going to the bible study sessions they’d have about 2 or 3 weeks ago and whilst at first I was happy at the idea of finding a community that shared my beliefs and values I was also still hesitant to embrace and accept everything. I remember asking if the bible study/church had a social media page or something like that so that I could know the name of the group/church. The person who invited me and another member proceeded to dodge this question altogether and it wasn’t until I’d attended this event, which I’m pretty sure you also mentioned in your video, that they mentioned a name. They actually didn’t mention the name of the church (SCJ) exactly but call it the Zion Mission Centre, but when I looked it up online, it’s linked to SCJ and everything. Once I started reading online where people were recounting their experiences with the group and it was matching my own (the initial stages at least since I didn’t do the free bible course that takes about 6 months), that’s when I started to take a step back and really pray for more discernment because I also had been praying for more friends and a community who were growing in their relationship with God before being approached by this group.
It’s so very deceiving and sad! and you are smart for looking up Zion and linking it to SCJ before getting too deep in the class. I’ll be praying God brings fourth real community for you❤️
I’m from London, born and raised. And I was looking to make Christian friends so I downloaded bumble bff. I matched with a girl and she gave me her number straight away which I found very abrupt and a bit weird. She then began texting me and invited me to a Christian event. She never told me about any Bible studying. They are very secretive! So I was feeling unwell and had a cold or a flu and she kept pushing me to come to the event! So I thought okay maybe she’s just extroverted and comes off as pushy and bossy. So I thought let me go to the event. When I got to the event there were other young (20-25 year old) black Christian UK women. I thought woah I finally have Christian friends. We got along during the event but when the event ended and I was ready to go home one of the women were being very pushy towards me and basically forced me to join Bible studying. So I just joined. The next day when I was at home she messaged me saying let’s meet up for Bible studying so I did. The women told me that she doesn’t believe in dreams and that God cannot give you signs and messages in dreams. She also said that she doesn’t cancel bad dreams because it shows you’re fearful and don’t have faith in God basically. Whilst reading the Bible during the “Bible studying” I looked up and caught the woman giving me an evil glare. Then she registered me with the Bible course and they go by the name “Bible promise course” again I thought it was just a normal Bible course. She said the course is 6 months long and it will be with online and in person students. I was on TikTok one day and I was just scrolling causally and that’s when I saw a video of a black British Christian woman warning others that SCJ are a Korean cult and that they are recruiting people in London via the name “Bible promise course” I said no way. That’s when I went on the Bible promise course website and read the details properly. I found out that the course is ran by the same people that run SCJ. God saved me from these evil people. We must forgive and pray for them!
The Zion Christian Mission Centre (ZMC) is a front group organised by Shincheonji (SCJ) for recruitment purposes.
I went thru this with the same cult. Smh
Glad God brought you out ! 🙌🏾
I was waiting for you to talk about the Passover that’s when I said I’m done …coz they wanted us to talk about how we feel I cry instead … I was so stressed yooo
litterally wow, so glad you got out. May God use ur story to reach out to others that are in this church!
Amen! God bless you ❤
I would never study with random people.
How do you get your spiritual need met after leaving?
@@Malligue I had rejoined my church after leaving! And have found truthful bible studies since then that don’t twist the word. Also in my own personal time with the Lord of course 😊
Ok, so I am in a bible group study that I was invited too from TIKTOK. Not sure if it’s a cult but I’ve noticed something’s. Don’t get me wrong they are good people but I believe I’ve been wrong about them. I’ve noticed that it’s a lot of 26 and or 25 year olds in the Bible study group. And not many others my age I’m 21 and there’s some that’s 19 and some that’s 20 I’ve also noticed being on some of the Bible study zoom the leader of the group in my opinion only cares for 26 year olds and makes me feel some type of way like the younger and the ones that’s 30 yrs young don’t matter. Also I’ve noticed that the friends that I made from the group I don’t believe they are my friends. Because I be having a feeling I can’t open up to them and or tell them my business. Which I’ve told them some of my business now ALL THO. so you think i could be in a cult without realizing it?
Hm my question is what are they teaching? That is really strange that they gravitate towards the 25-26 years olds but what are the lessons like?
Also they do tend to recruit on apps! Bumble is a popular one they recruit on so that’s another factor.
When I met some of the girls and tried to get to know them more I will say sometimes there was a block on certain conversations it didn’t bother me personally but I will say, some didn’t want real friendship they just wanted you to stay in the study so keep an eye out for that !
I’m not familiar with bumble. But I was invited by someone on TikTok. And I can say it has leaded me closer to Christ so I’m not sure I could probably be overthinking it. Not sure tho and everything they teach is biblical!
@@ShanteCrawford but some has left the group for many reasons. I’ve noticed that I have this one “friend” she no longer participates in the group but she has been watching and when I say that like she is still looking at all of the chats because we have a several group chats in the group. But that concerns me and I be thinking maybe she’s a monitoring spirit but that is not in the Bible. So idk
hey jazzed, what is the name of the Bible study??
@@JessBeYOUUI’m very skeptical of them especially when they started mentioning this new John
Was never apart but had many friends tell me their cult horror stories.. thanking JESUS you got out 🙌🏾
The stories are wild! But yess God is so so good🙌🏾
No cause somebody DM’d me about bible study but I said I had to ask God about it & we haven’t talked since 💀💀
They saw you was getting God involved first thing and got scared 😂 Amen to that
Something similar happened to me too you have to be careful the prayers you say out loud when it comes to things you want. Monitoring spirits are also listening in and will send things that aren’t of God to confuse you
hi , do they focus alot on the parables?
@@christianity-ff6hr yes they do!
I'm taking the course, I'm in advanced level (Revelation) up until now I don't see anything weird in the course, everything they teach me is according to the Bible.
One thing that I can't ignore at SCJ is they are the only one that can explain Revelation from chapter 1 to 22 with all details and it makes perfect sense, their testimony fits Revelation perfectly, I've never heard anything like this before it's so deep.
Why would God gives us the book of Revelation, if no one can explain it? If you ask questions about Revelation in your church they would probably say "I don’t know" they would make things up like 666 is the microchip.
They show me in the Bible where Jesus himself talks about someone that gonna come after him.
I will leave SCJ when someone can explain me the book of Revelation better than them or God himself talk to me.
Almost every testimony I heard from ex members is they asked God to help them getting closer to him and they found the course weeks or month later including myself (except I'm not an ex member), what a coincidence.🤔
You are entitled to your own opinion and beliefs. I just truly advise you to seek the LORD, and not the group leaders or the content. I have shared my testimony, done my part, and will now let the Lord work and press into whoever the message is for. God Bless you!
@ShanteCrawford
Right now, I'm seeking the Lord more than ever because I'm facing two different teachings: one from SCJ and the other from my church. I haven't left my church; I still attend regularly. But now, I'm receiving two messages, and you know what I do? I read my Bible. I listen to the word from SCJ and the word from my church, which I've been learning for the past 20 years.
Sometimes, what my pastor says doesn't make sense to me, but when I found this course from SCJ, things started to click. I use the Bible to judge whether what they say is true or not. I don't judge SCJ by their behavior, how they recruit people, or how they do evangelism. I judge them by the Bible. If what they say aligns with the Bible, I accept it. I'm not just accepting it because I've been in church for 20 years hearing the same things. If there's another teaching out there, I should give it a fair chance and see if it holds up according to the Bible-not based on their methods, but on the truth of the scripture.
We both believe in the Bible. If two people interpret it differently, we should listen to both and see which interpretation makes sense according to the Bible. If one doesn't, we should follow the one that does.
If you believe you have the truth, I encourage you to open your Bible and discuss it with them at SCJ, because the Bible is the ultimate truth. If you feel uncertain, ask your pastor to explain some verses and then ask SCJ the same questions. I think that's a wise step before making any decisions.
I hope my comments didn't offend you-I don't mean to be rude. I just wanted to share that I pray every day, asking God to give me a sign if SCJ is not the truth.
Praying strong discernment over your mind God Bless !
Think of it like that. Shincheonji is like a wolf in sheep clothing. They will get you the content you need and get you hooked. Those who are ultimately satisfied are stuck in the never-ending cycle of membership. The hardest thing to do is to leave while the easiest is to stay in. Staying in is the easy part.
@Naruske221 How can you tell it's a wolf? What are you basing that on? Are you judging them by their behavior? By how they recruit people? By how they do evangelism or manage their church? If that's how you're judging them, it's not a wise approach. I believe the best way to judge them is by using the Bible. If what they say aligns with the Bible, they're not a wolf or a cult. But if you can't point to something in the Bible that shows they're a cult, then they aren't one. I rely on the Bible. If you want to discuss them, bring verses, bring the Bible. Let the Bible speak. Then, people will see if they're wolves. But without the Bible, I'm sorry, the Bible is the ultimate truth.
We’re y’all introduced to the term “eating in haste”?
They did mention this in the class I was in!!
There’s a South African RUclipsr with the EXACTLY same testimony. That’s so scary that they’re everywhere
They are everywhere it’s crazy so many innocent people being deceived😭
God bless you, sister❤❤
God bless you and keep you 🤍
They didn't teach us here that the Korean man is Jesus but the SC John. It's so weird
Thank you for sharing!
My mom is in this and I’ve shown her all ex members videos. She’s in love with her “leaf partner” so she’s going because of him.
Praying the Holy Spirit guides her eyes to the truth!
I was in that cult but in South Africa 🇿🇦 same thing happened! All your red flags 🚩
thanks for sharing!
Schneider Walks
So you’re saying they let you go easily?
When I first mentioned it, one of the leaders wanted to meet for coffee to discuss the matter (pull me back in)
But I told all of them I wouldn’t be answering any questioning or giving any explanations. I gave them no choice but to accept my decision. Otherwise they would have tried to fight it
@@ShanteCrawford I just left a different cult. I was told by others who left not to give explanation but my husband made me. Now I’m out but he’s still in because he doesn’t want to leave 😩 they don’t take well to people leaving
@@Micah6.8life that’s a difficult situation!😭 I’ll be praying for him to be led out!
@@ShanteCrawford thank you thank you!!
It seems even your class teacher at school had trouble on how you understand your studies. Seriously
😮😮😮 ouuu leeman lee wow never heard of him
Mhhm girl Lee man hee I believe its spelt it’s crazy out here !
Your message is false. Your perception is your perception not truth. Shincheonji is not a cult. It has been a blessing to me. Only the true word of God is preached. I understand the bible better at shincheonji. Members are kind. They supported me through the hardships in life that i faced. Please stop trying to use blaspheme to create content. You can share your experience without judging and false accusations. God is the judge.
This video was not in judgement but in experience, not content but testimony. And the fact that the members are kind is great! My peers in the class were kind too but it’s not about that, its about the teaching. And Lee man Hee is an idol worshipped by man. May God bless you with strong discernment😊
You.. I saw ur comment in other such video too, how much are they paying you for commenting the same statement everywhere?
@@ShanteCrawfordplease discern with the words in the Bible. You just acting according to your own thoughts and feelings not even biblical… The word is the standard
Matthew 24:24
You who say Scj teaches false! kindly tell us the truth you had before going to Scj.
For me, my top truth would be :
Truth before scj - Jesus is the way the truth and the life to salvation.
1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”
but the truth that scj preached is that I would only seek salvation through a man named Lee Man Hee. But there is ONE GOD and ONE MEDIATOR, which is Jesus.
Thank you for sharing your experience just recently shared my testimony with SCJ 🥺 I was in SCJ in 2018 and got out around 8 months later! Glad you found your way out of it! 🫶🏽
We’d probably make good friends/sisters lol.
Sisters in Christ🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@ShanteCrawford 🩷🩷
I just got out smh
Look at you right now
Calling shincheonji cult!!!
Those were your thoughts and you can speak what you think. Stop misleading others.
You’re part of their cult aren’t you? May God give you wisdom
Why don't you make video yourself and post