Roger Scruton - The Future of European Civilization: Lessons for America

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  • ~A Russell Kirk Lecture at The Heritage Foundation’s B. Kenneth Simon Center for Principles and Politics~
    America has much to learn from Europe’s current condition. The decline in religious faith has led to a universal weakening of European society and a loss of confidence in the value of its civilization. The effects have been grave: throngs of unassimilated immigrants, military threats from abroad, and confusion about national identity. America, by contrast, still shows many signs of strength. Nonetheless, should we lose our sense of shared identity, Europe’s path likely awaits. What can Americans learn from Europe? Does America have hidden strengths which, if properly used, will allow us to avoid a similar fate? And are there areas in which Europe is faring better than we are?
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  • @TheHeritageFoundation
    @TheHeritageFoundation  4 года назад +8

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  • @beatsyndrom
    @beatsyndrom 5 лет назад +532

    Can't help but tell my private story to illustrate a point. I was born to Turkish migrants in Germany in 1980 and have gone through a deep change concerning my complete world view. From questioning my belief as a shiate Muslim, to wondering about Europe and its culture, to mass migration into European cities and the questions about multiculturism. I had beliefs that were anti a lot of things. But things have shifted in my mind and heart a lot. Europe needs to defend itself. Its beliefs and culture, its history and the common legislative law, to maintaining to be a thing in the world and for its native population and generations to come. Something that so many other cultures from around the world look at with awe and respect when thinking about Europe. It can't and mustn't go down in cultural relativism. That would be the end of something incredibly noble, beautiful and unique in the world. No other culture and country in the world would allow the things to have happen to itself what has been happening in Europe.

    • @kevinbill9574
      @kevinbill9574 5 лет назад +24

      Thank you.

    • @Bordondental
      @Bordondental 5 лет назад +22

      Thank you ... clearly a true intellectual.

    • @Mrbobinge
      @Mrbobinge 5 лет назад +3

      @@Bordondental we'll pray for you like (hope you'll like it) hell.

    • @timbookatuncommonsense8778
      @timbookatuncommonsense8778 5 лет назад

      Wow your Powerful argument has actually change my mind on multiculturalism why can't it be another isn't like communism that was defenders of the concept democracy defending the concept so you could be the first multiculturalism concept you got to understand me I grew up born 1970 just as we joined the common market and we got floods with people in our towns and cities strangers look different talk different so anytime if they come over here taking HR jobs that's a myth because there were no jobs in the first place but anyway he created a simmering resentment of the government's and it's rumbling along to the head of Steam called Brexit.
      We're going to look like the little boy locked out in the rain with the EU The UN refusing to let him back in while the UN looks on uninterested, And the USA holes an umbrella up so long as we the kid does what the bully tells him.
      That's what our immediate future house we're still patriotic to our national Identity for your future but it will come one day it's the only logical solution for peace and prosperity is to merge into mongol people and I would be happier with that after multiculturalism failed and it'll be monoculture u

    • @JurijPopotnig
      @JurijPopotnig 5 лет назад +16

      Guter Kommentar. But it's not cultural relativism it's moral relativism. We have many cultures who live in their tribal victimhood mode here and the West forgot what made it great. It wasn't capitalism or christianity, nationality or the common European idea it was our high morality that people developed through fighting it out over the centuries. I think we've lost track of morality with over scientification everything must be viewed as objective as possible that comes from science and narcissism. We have too many well educated psychopaths with no plan for life.

  • @perseusrex614
    @perseusrex614 5 лет назад +419

    As I Greek, I can not stress this enough to my American brothers and sisters. DO EVERYTHING THE OPPOSITE OF EUROPE, EVERYTHING!!

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 5 лет назад +19

      I as French, agree, Perseus, unfortunately these EU stupidity has it's roots in US culture..

    • @ericjohnson7234
      @ericjohnson7234 5 лет назад +19

      @@michelguevara151 That is correct. Which itself has it's roots in a number of European cultures. Marxism is a disease. Kill it, with wrathful vengeance of the mind.

    • @DaniboyBR2
      @DaniboyBR2 5 лет назад +35

      As a Brazilian, all I can say is, vote against the left, the globalists, vote them out if you can, while you can.

    • @V1er1f1ed
      @V1er1f1ed 5 лет назад +3

      Western? I think Salvini and Meloni understand this problem

    • @craigedwards2557
      @craigedwards2557 5 лет назад +4

      Europe has some problems I agree totaly, our leaders are corrupt and ineffective and need to be replaced
      US gun laws mean hundreds of millions of Americans can and do own guns even automatic guns so one thing were very thankfull Europe does differently is gun ownership laws, all the knife crime in London, violent unstable criminal children who currently use knives could progress from stabbing to shooting-perhaps as they move from childhood to adulthood they could progress from bread knives to hand guns- Perhaps America could do some things like europe to improve , everywhere has its problems, look how many people are locked up in American Jails-highest prison population in the world , people locked up for decades often for minor crimes ,they do lots of things differently and its not all good there either

  • @lucasbogaerts
    @lucasbogaerts 4 года назад +107

    Rest in Peace, Roger Scruton.

    • @juliand.l.4310
      @juliand.l.4310 4 года назад +5

      It was because of your comment I found out of his passing and that hurt. I was hoping you were just a troll. :’(

    • @1who4me
      @1who4me 2 года назад +3

      That’s Sir Roger Scuton

  • @mariaa.9952
    @mariaa.9952 4 года назад +47

    Such a loss for the world, that he is no longer with us. He was such an genius......such an elegant soul.
    R.I.P Roger Scruton. 😕

    • @AA-ul9qh
      @AA-ul9qh 3 года назад

      Nah, he is a relic of the past; the modern world doesn't need his narrow-minded bigotry!

    • @mariaa.9952
      @mariaa.9952 3 года назад +3

      The Sistine Chapel is also a relic from the past, and yet millions flock to visit it, still today.
      When ppl claim that other ppl are “narrow minded & bigoted” etc., doesn’t it make you think that perhaps those making that claim are narrow minded & bigoted themselves? Aren’t they just in fact looking for an excuse to shut down reflection, discourse & Freedom of Speech? After all, isn’t real open-mindedness and objectivity the exercise of looking upon ANY opinion as just that, an opinion, without judgement but at the same time encouraging discussion & different perspectives? Perhaps those who accuse others of “narrow mindedness” are exposing their own biases and tyrannical inclinations? Could it be that THEY are the REAL threat to the modern world? 🤔😏

    • @bosmosis
      @bosmosis 11 месяцев назад

      He was a dinosaur, and now takes his place among them.

  • @jamesstuartbrice420
    @jamesstuartbrice420 5 лет назад +58

    Despite what Scruton says, Europeans are destroying much of their architectural treasures. Sometimes they protect their architecture, but often they destroy it. In small towns across Europe the historic buildings are often torn down to put up modern department stores or other buildings of commercial interest. The modernistic movement has greatly changed their cities and led to destruction of historical buildings. Large numbers of historical buildings in London have been replaced by skyscrapers. There does not seem to be much motivation on the part of elites to solve the problem of mass immigration. In the US neither major party seems willing to stop this. At least Trump's attempts through foreign policy and executive orders is an effort to stop the migration, but so far they have not had must success. Valuing the nation seems to be treated as a form of bigotry.

    • @russellsueosborne9106
      @russellsueosborne9106 4 года назад

      Mass migration is a deliberate ploy to restock the working class ,since western countries birthrates have fallen and elites are worried as to who will be picking up their trash,cleaning their toilets and cooking their food?? For a ghastly moment they contemplated doing it themselves....then someone had a brainwave...bring in slaves from Africa, The Middle East etc .Only don’t call them slaves ,call them migrants!!

    • @mevg6378
      @mevg6378 3 года назад +1

      @@russellsueosborne9106 Standard song about lack of work force. Maybe it is just better to reduce the taxes and decrease the welfare.

  • @antheairenedevilliers1657
    @antheairenedevilliers1657 5 лет назад +13

    This is what intelligent and civilised discussion is supposed to look like. A pleasure to listen to. No screeching and savagery!!

  • @kylen4701
    @kylen4701 5 лет назад +150

    The UK will be essentially finished in a decade. It's done. Don't go gently into that good night though...

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 5 лет назад +9

      Ireland will soon overtake the UK.

    • @jiggajigjones8210
      @jiggajigjones8210 5 лет назад +1

      solatiumz yes I think so.

    • @terrygain1343
      @terrygain1343 5 лет назад +15

      solatiumz
      By overtake, do you mean in terms of decline? Isn't Ireland Islamizing even faster Britain?

    • @chrisucl
      @chrisucl 5 лет назад +7

      @@terrygain1343 yup it is and it has a smaller population.

    • @terrygain1343
      @terrygain1343 5 лет назад +16

      Whatevs
      That's such a shame. I am of Irish heritage. The naïveté surprises me, given Ireland's history of being exploited. The other half of me is of Polish heritage. That half has learned from its history.

  • @peterc9153
    @peterc9153 5 лет назад +28

    Isaiah 3:12 "My people, children are your oppressors and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you, and they have swallowed up the course of thy paths".
    Scripture has always been ahead of humanity since the beginning. God knows whence from we came and where we are going.

    • @aeimcinternetional
      @aeimcinternetional 5 лет назад +1

      Utter idiocy!

    • @crazywazydoublehazy
      @crazywazydoublehazy 4 года назад +2

      ‘........and women rule over them.’ How much of the Feminist agenda is responsible, either directly or indirectly, for the disembowelment of Europe?

    • @JaneA544
      @JaneA544 2 года назад

      @@crazywazydoublehazy mysoginist

  • @jimdandy9671
    @jimdandy9671 7 лет назад +85

    How sad, Scruton the audience even myself by the end of his talk all seemed resigned to the imminent collapse of Western society...WTF!
    We need to adopt the Tommy Robinson spirit.

    • @dianablackman4528
      @dianablackman4528 5 лет назад +5

      Exactly so. We need a mass revolt on the scale of the French Revolution. The situation demands all-out war.

    • @puppetperception7861
      @puppetperception7861 5 лет назад +4

      Antler Wales
      Robinson is a Zionist and is not an advocate of European people. Neither does he oppose immigration or represent any real opposition

    • @rodnormandrums2772
      @rodnormandrums2772 5 лет назад +1

      @@puppetperception7861 I believe him to be a Mossad asset.

    • @22grena
      @22grena 5 лет назад +2

      Robinson is a Zionist shill

  • @willyupshaw
    @willyupshaw 5 лет назад +26

    "Our landscapes and townscapes are dear to us." People don't seem to upset that Notre Dame burned down.

    • @icarusalchemist1398
      @icarusalchemist1398 5 лет назад +13

      You just don't get to hear from the people who are upset. The mainstream media control the narrative and the narrative is Christianity is bad.

    • @chrisucl
      @chrisucl 5 лет назад +1

      After the outrage which happened on the Internet after that, how can you say that?

    • @alanaadams7440
      @alanaadams7440 5 лет назад +5

      I am very sorry for the burning of Notre Dame. And all the other churches sacked during Easter Week. Do not be mistaken it was done on purpose by a well known group

    • @joegerhardusa9017
      @joegerhardusa9017 5 лет назад +4

      Its bullshit! Macron better not build a mosque or some bull crap multi faith church

  • @michaelpearl5269
    @michaelpearl5269 4 года назад +7

    Sir Roger, may he Rest In Peace, is as current today as ever. And another European light has gone out.

  • @ldrjohnson6705
    @ldrjohnson6705 5 лет назад +71

    Why doesn't Europe take South Africans that are in harms way, they are connected to both Americans and Europe

    • @kellyowens1868
      @kellyowens1868 5 лет назад +8

      I would be for the idea, if the the rates of racist killings became much worse, but how exactly are South Africaans connected to the US, I wonder. It was colonized by the Dutch, and British in turn. There are activists in Austrailia advocating for them to be taken in by that country. If you have any lingering doubts about how deeply RACIST the so called "Liberals" on the left are, watch a video of street interviews, that asked if the South African refugees should be allowed to come to Austrailia. If you need to be reminded of the true HATE that ills our societies, these sick individuals, who like to imagine they are the tolerant ones, can't conceal the true evil, that is just below an amiable facade. It's truly horrifying.!
      KOut

    • @rdavel777
      @rdavel777 5 лет назад +12

      Not one lefty in any western country will take the Afrikaners. We wont vote with the left. Thus we are not the right immigrants as they are looking for immigrants who are dependent on the government that'll vote for a bigger government. We are just do dangerous for the leftist agenda.

    • @galahadthreepwood
      @galahadthreepwood 5 лет назад +14

      Because they're white, and those in charge hate white people

    • @sommerwood2920
      @sommerwood2920 5 лет назад +1

      @@kellyowens1868 He said Europe not US

    • @kellyowens1868
      @kellyowens1868 5 лет назад +2

      @@sommerwood2920 I do so hate to quibble about minor details, but right, is right. Right? My post was in response to this thread's originator, & not Lord Scrutton's lecture, which I don't believe is the issue you raised. I confess the wording, I reacted to, is not the clearest, but it does say, "... both Europeans, & Americans." No?
      Which indicates the author meant US residents. If he had said, "... both Americas, and Europeans, ..." it might mean, European, & residents in the Western Hemisphere, or both North, & South Americans".
      It is odd how one little "n," doesn't change the meaning entirely, but the "n" alters the reference, to a great degree, No? I hope I clarified what drew my attention to this post.
      I was in college for much of the unrest in South Africa. I fail to see how the US, or Americans had a unique connection to S.A., or the Aparteid govt., whereas the Africaaners/Boers were Dutch settlers, & Colonizers originally. Great Britain moved in to rest control from the Dutch govt. of Cape
      Colony. As the Boers, and Rhodes moved inland, other smaller Colonies were
      established, which G.B. gained control of, as a result of the ugly Boer War, in the 1890's. The 4-6 small, original Colonies were combined into Rhodesia, in the North, and South Africa on, & around the Cape of Good Hope. The US played no dirrect role that I'm aware of.
      I hope I explained my reply, & my intent to your satisfaction.
      Yours, KOut

  • @wasabimanic
    @wasabimanic 5 лет назад +22

    WE are continually using the term Islamophobia. When the far FAR greater phobia and its attendent violent intolerance, in both geographic and historical terms is INFIDELOPHOBIA...... The "phobia " WE are not PERMITTED to express.

    • @jobirbatti6713
      @jobirbatti6713 5 лет назад +7

      How about kaffirophobia! But, in reality, there is no religion as Islam which hate other religions. Give them power, they would convert all humans to Islam.
      That is one of their religious obligations. In their mind, they are doing a favour to Allah. Mohammed told them in the qur'an they are the best of creatures because they put a leash on others neck and bring them to Allah.

    • @wasabimanic
      @wasabimanic 5 лет назад +2

      @@jobirbatti6713 That's absolutely right. It is worrying that the " Kaffirosphere" is losing self confidence in it's disparate paths. Self critical to the degree of self destruction. We have a crisis of faith, and may well have to learn the lessons the hard way once more. The Enlightenment

    • @onetwo6064
      @onetwo6064 4 года назад +1

      ChaCha Oliwuole their will be all out civil war, reconquista of Europe

    • @Aquacrystal78
      @Aquacrystal78 2 года назад

      Look" Islamaphobia "is a term as result of negative Western media report of Muslims giving each story 200 percent more coverage than usual.That's all.

  • @Kolinahr1701
    @Kolinahr1701 5 лет назад +27

    Roger Scruton: a beacon of reason and sanity.

    • @AA-ul9qh
      @AA-ul9qh 3 года назад

      Ha, ha, ha, OMG, yours is the most hilarious comment I've read in a long time... to call a bigot a beacon of reason & sanity! ROFT!!!

  • @marcianiedziolko9984
    @marcianiedziolko9984 5 лет назад +47

    Roger Scruton, impressive as always!

  • @contrastprinciple4389
    @contrastprinciple4389 5 лет назад +49

    Yeah, the liberals in san fran, were liberal until they wanted to build a homeless shelter near their homes, haha.

    • @frankandstern8803
      @frankandstern8803 5 лет назад

      looks good on them......

    • @DpHsHd
      @DpHsHd 5 лет назад +1

      contrast principle And yet they care nothing that their once beautiful streets are now paved in human excrement.

  • @charltonmc
    @charltonmc 2 года назад +5

    How right he was then 6 years ago Only now it is undeniably obvious and only after Sir Roger’s death sadly.
    R.I.P. Sir Roger

  • @daniellebcooper7160
    @daniellebcooper7160 2 года назад +5

    Now that we're in 2021, how right he was.

    • @TickleMeElmo55
      @TickleMeElmo55 2 года назад +1

      Yep. The Woke is everything I thought they were: Absolutely horrible.

  • @ThePdeHav
    @ThePdeHav 5 лет назад +25

    Rights were presumed to follow duties to country and community, originally.

    • @chrisucl
      @chrisucl 5 лет назад +1

      That's so very true. Thank you for this.

  • @ThePdeHav
    @ThePdeHav 5 лет назад +42

    Well said, Sir Roger

    • @AP-ob3ez
      @AP-ob3ez 5 лет назад

      This guy is a clown. Invades countries and doesn't want refugees there. Cant have it both ways. And he blames Obama for isolationist policy. That is BS. Obama did not pursue isolationist policy he instigated Arab Spring and refugee flow. West needs to take responsibility for their actions. Of course, Syrians, and Afghans and Iraqis dont wanna assimilate because they dont wanna be in Europe but they have no choice.

  • @JSwift-jq3wn
    @JSwift-jq3wn 4 года назад +7

    "There are many cultures in the world, but only the European civilization."
    Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
    Europe is the world cultural heritage.

    • @AsifKhan-hf9zy
      @AsifKhan-hf9zy Год назад

      did he say that before the holocaust or after the holocaust?

    • @JSwift-jq3wn
      @JSwift-jq3wn Год назад

      @@AsifKhan-hf9zy I am not sure. He was enamored by the Western Civilization. Wester Civilization is not about perfect utopia.

  • @wa6dna58
    @wa6dna58 7 лет назад +39

    Roger Scruton , here describes the decline of European civilization as viewed in contrast to the similar phenomenon in The United States. Islam and the western civilization are not mutually compatible.

  • @zhengyangwu8289
    @zhengyangwu8289 5 лет назад +10

    A short speech with massive content and meanings. A sharp-sighted man!

  • @karenfornwalt9235
    @karenfornwalt9235 5 лет назад +24

    Brilliant! Roger Scruton is a gem and a visionary

  • @dunuth
    @dunuth 5 лет назад +5

    Watching this in 2019 is quite an experience

  • @KOSS800
    @KOSS800 5 лет назад +9

    Superb speech. The sprinkle of humor here and there makes it enjoyable, despite the deeply disturbing themes addressed.

  • @glynnera
    @glynnera 5 лет назад +5

    Thank goodness for his voice of sanity.

  • @jameshennighan8193
    @jameshennighan8193 4 года назад +2

    As succinct an assessment of the problems we face......and of the influence of the EU and it's various constituent parts......as we could wish to hear.
    R.I.P. ..Roger Scruton........thanks for what you did whilst you were here......
    Your message and observations are as relevant as ever.....
    James Hennighan
    Yorkshire, England

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 5 лет назад +10

    Love this guy Scruton!

  • @awuma
    @awuma 3 года назад +2

    Superb lecture, so many provocative ideas, to agree or disagree with (plenty of both). Things have changed a bit in the five years since this lecture... now, it is America which is in trouble, and Europe stands better.

    • @EEVOL
      @EEVOL 2 года назад

      Wow what a difference one year makes. I hope Russia takes it easy on the rest of Europe and I hope the US let's them sort it out themselves and not get in the way. The US needs to stop putting its fingers where it doesn't belong.

  • @mordanthamster2753
    @mordanthamster2753 5 лет назад +3

    This speech is as relevant today in 2019 as it is now... God bless, Sir Roger,.. he's a good-hearted man. What else do we need beyond good will???

  • @Leann68
    @Leann68 5 лет назад +6

    Americans must secure our borders and stop immigration period 💁🏻

  • @mick947
    @mick947 3 года назад +1

    Could you imagine this talk being shown on the BBC! .. and that says an awful lot, we need free debate.

  • @amberg4820
    @amberg4820 6 лет назад +24

    They’re acting like this wasn’t intentionally planned 😂 The only good thing about merkel is that she’s organized and good at planning

    • @amberg4820
      @amberg4820 6 лет назад +5

      I wish I was worried about gender and gay marriage.... stupidest shit to worry about it

    • @amberg4820
      @amberg4820 6 лет назад

      Yes and music

  • @istvantoth7431
    @istvantoth7431 2 года назад +1

    The amount of haters in the comment section even today shows perfectly how vital topics he touched on. The amount of condescending leftwing screeching is always the best indicator. Rest in peace Sir. You are greatly missed.

  • @hmbseesaw
    @hmbseesaw 5 лет назад +11

    Europe has been dying for some time now.

    • @bnmbg731
      @bnmbg731 2 года назад

      Since the world wars.

  • @elkabong8454
    @elkabong8454 3 года назад +2

    Spot on about Libertarians. You have to have a standard. You have to have a culture. You have to have a foundation upon which to build. Libertarians completely lack that.

  • @vivienneoutram5945
    @vivienneoutram5945 7 лет назад +18

    What a brilliant lecture!

    • @charltonmc
      @charltonmc 2 года назад +3

      More and more impressive by the day.
      I watched a long time ago but now is the time to take in what Sir Roger had to say. His passing is a sad loss for the World.

  • @tomasjanco7355
    @tomasjanco7355 6 лет назад +10

    Not every right wing libertarian is for open borders. Many of us are conservative minarchists.

    • @juliafox52
      @juliafox52 5 лет назад

      @White Ice Tv Libertarians are the opposite of communists: they believe in protecting individual rights over the group, whereas communists believ in group over individual.

    • @juliafox52
      @juliafox52 5 лет назад

      @White Ice Tv I don't think those words mean what you think they mean. Libertarians and communists are on ideologically opposite ends of the spectrum. Communists are authoritarian left. They are communal and the group dominates over the individual. Libertarians are literally the exactly the opposite. Where on earth are getting the absurd idea that libertarians are ideologically communists?!

  • @henrikpersson1962
    @henrikpersson1962 5 лет назад +2

    He seems to be the deepest thinker of Europe of today.

  • @LeoWhiteockhamsbeard
    @LeoWhiteockhamsbeard 7 лет назад +33

    Scruton's talk begins at 4:21

  • @HankRearden84
    @HankRearden84 4 года назад +1

    Perhaps any Europeans who wish to get the hell out of Europe can come to the States and help us reinvigorate Western Culture.

  • @Blackstock123
    @Blackstock123 7 лет назад +15

    Birth rates are down because of overpopulation from previous generations and a lack of jobs because of it, most people can not afford to raise a family in many western countries due to high cost of living and low wages. There is also a shift in culture away from marriage and the typical life mile stones, buy a house, get married, have kids etch young people today have more things to do with their time.

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 7 лет назад +4

      Yeah, people are more concerned with their own personal pleasure than they are the good of society and the future of their civilization.

    • @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226
      @fansofst.maximustheconfess8226 5 лет назад

      Marriage & family have been a rather bad deal for men since time immemorial. Many of the ancients have written about and analyzed this. It's only now that the deal has become so utterly unacceptable and the truth of this scam of females & society laid out completely in the open that the mainstream simply doesn't know how to deal with it any longer. Here's the great analysis of the situation we're finding ourselves at in the "Western World": blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2019/05/05/writing-bad-things-about-women/

  • @1who4me
    @1who4me 2 года назад +2

    Sir Roger begins at 4:20

  • @davidturnage3467
    @davidturnage3467 Год назад

    His entropy analogy, is pure genius!

  • @GeraBizuneh
    @GeraBizuneh 6 лет назад +9

    Deep and illuminating ! Beautiful !

  • @noshirm6285
    @noshirm6285 2 года назад

    Sir Roger is trenchant and insightful, as well as incredibly erudite. I’m in agreement with him on all he’s said here. To hear his speech read out lickety split, however, detracts from the overall experience.

  • @swarming1092
    @swarming1092 7 месяцев назад

    Fascinating to listen back to this now in Britain...

  • @nguonbonnit
    @nguonbonnit Год назад

    Wow ! So great. You help me a lots.

  • @andrewmartin6445
    @andrewmartin6445 5 лет назад +4

    I think the word "reformation" is misused here, as it often is when comparing Christianity and Islam. The Christian reformation, far from being a "playing down,"of aspects of its scripture that it didn't want to be emphasized, was speciifically a return to the authority of scripture.
    The problem lies in the nature of the two faiths' holy books, the very different actions they expect from their followers and the completely opposite motivations and actions of their founders.
    Christ's original message as represented in the New Testament was primarily one of love, non-violence and self-sacrifice as contrasted with the Koran which preaches the idea of enforcing the supposed will of Allah by the blade of the sword, authorises brutally violent sanctions against wrongdoers and apostates and condones the ownership of slaves.
    Today's most violent representatives of Islam are really marked out by a fundamentalist return to the authority of their own scripture. In that sense groups like ISIS could even claim to BE an Islamic reformation. But the nature of the holy book whose authority is being rediscovered is much more punitive and violent than anything in the New Testament.
    What people really mean when they talk about the need for an Islamic reformation is that they want the problematic violent parts of the Koran somehow downplayed or ignored. This shows a mixture of moral cowardice and wishful thinking.
    In the present climate it takes courage to draw attention to the barbarity of some of the Koran's teachings. Whether it happens in the tenth century or the twenty-first century, the need to pretend that certain passages of a faith's scripture aren't there or mean something different to what they clearly say in order to present it as peaceful and compatible with modern western ideas of freedom and tolerance speaks for itself. Just how divinely inspired can a book be if passages in it are such an embarrassment that they need to be ignored or explained away?

  • @PINQINQ
    @PINQINQ 4 года назад +1

    Here from the future to see how relevant this is

  • @Irisphotojournal
    @Irisphotojournal 4 года назад +4

    Brexit will happen in 30 days and the Uk will leave with or without a deal and we can only hope that other nations decide to follow soon. Perhaps Great Britain still has time to save itself from an anti-democratic and greedy EU.

  • @richyburnett
    @richyburnett 5 лет назад +3

    That’s SIR Roger Scruton you!

  • @kargs5krun
    @kargs5krun 5 лет назад

    Can anyone who's watched and digested (well, mind you) what this video's main points/highlights are and can *list them, ala in cliff notes fashion,* would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  • @CynicalBastard
    @CynicalBastard 5 лет назад

    Right. Music. Scruton, here, is right. And here: 19:00 -- Some very pertinent points, as well.

  • @motorcop505
    @motorcop505 5 лет назад +2

    Bravo Sir Roger!

  • @nachochitiu6953
    @nachochitiu6953 5 лет назад +10

    Spiritual consolation? Read Revelation. Remember the return of Jesus. That should do for consolation.

    • @CynicalBastard
      @CynicalBastard 5 лет назад

      Short-sighted.

    • @nachochitiu6953
      @nachochitiu6953 5 лет назад +1

      @@CynicalBastard Short sighted? I never thought eternity could ever be short.

    • @coyotebones1131
      @coyotebones1131 3 года назад

      @@CynicalBastard get curious scum bag

  • @wait-what-really.
    @wait-what-really. 5 лет назад +4

    lol.."let them all in, and it will work itself out." Ouch...I can not image raising my kids and running my house like that.

  • @Lord_Cannabis420
    @Lord_Cannabis420 2 года назад +1

    Roger Scruton was so ahead of his time, he should've been in back to the future 3

  • @sharonsamtur4034
    @sharonsamtur4034 5 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @paulmerring1607
    @paulmerring1607 4 года назад +2

    As a white conservative man living in America, I don’t have much hope for the west at all.

  • @danieladrean142
    @danieladrean142 5 лет назад +4

    The warning from Europe to the United States is not to forsake her Christian cultural inheritance, roots, and foundation

  • @shadowartist8892
    @shadowartist8892 5 лет назад +9

    I adore the beauty of Europe. I have always hated the lousy modern American architectural lack of aesthetic. Libertarians are as stupid as progressives. Roger Scruton is my favorite!

  • @memorymix8884
    @memorymix8884 7 лет назад +7

    of course it's coming to an end, it has to. But it's not "The End," so to speak. It marks the rebirth. The Spring always follows the Winter. There is no beginning, and no end.

    • @DoctorMoreau
      @DoctorMoreau 7 лет назад +4

      That's what dinosaurs said

    • @memorymix8884
      @memorymix8884 7 лет назад +3

      DocMoreau and their legacy remains in many animals. the more things change the more they stay the same.

    • @crimsonsamuraiftw
      @crimsonsamuraiftw 6 лет назад

      For they are the knights of summer, and winter is coming. What is dead may never die.

    • @heathermarykell3063
      @heathermarykell3063 5 лет назад

      mong morg sadly

  • @rodrigocamargo8400
    @rodrigocamargo8400 8 лет назад +3

    is there a transcript of this speech? Thank you

    • @theogeny
      @theogeny 7 лет назад +5

      +Rodrigo Camargo Here is the transcription: www.heritage.org/europe/report/the-future-european-civilization-lessons-america

  • @aion5837
    @aion5837 5 лет назад

    I may have misunderstood but Scruton seems to make a direct analogy between the erosion of Christianity and the foundational laws/rules that it advocated. But, what he ignores is the importance of 'meaning' that Christianity offered. Meaning can be so diffuse that it can be difficult to define logically. I'm not religious, but when I listen to classical religious music, besides all my rational instincts, I feel a profound connection to the divine. I glimpse meaning. It is meaning that is being hollowed out not only in our culture but in our very being. It is irreplaceable.

  • @patrickvonjanicke658
    @patrickvonjanicke658 3 года назад +1

    I really want to listen to this but after 12mins it makes me so sad that I have to stop and go back to playing video games.

  • @starkou6232
    @starkou6232 3 года назад +1

    We love Roger.

  • @tacywest8842
    @tacywest8842 5 лет назад +1

    Wow well said

  • @paulg444
    @paulg444 5 лет назад +3

    Scrouton is a genuine polymath .

  • @bocckoka
    @bocckoka 5 лет назад

    we should be able to surpass religion without giving up our culture, but I don't know if there ever was an example of this

  • @iga27
    @iga27 8 лет назад +1

    Learning to value one's nation is of course extremely important in retaining out identity. But what has that got to do with religion, this or that?

    • @judithsmith8014
      @judithsmith8014 5 лет назад +1

      You don't know much history and perhaps little of the human psyche.

  • @paolopaolo731
    @paolopaolo731 Год назад

    Excellent

  • @Pan_Z
    @Pan_Z 11 месяцев назад

    26:25 Scrutin had foresight into events 7-years ahead, events after his death.
    How different Eastern Europe would be if Scrutin, or someone like-minded, had lead diplomacy with Russia.

  • @murashkaist
    @murashkaist 4 года назад +6

    I am a Russian myself. I am fond of these conservatives ideas and particuraly of Roger's Scruton speach. But in one thing I want to disagree with him. You do not have any real threat from Russia, you can have a right to say that european civilization do not see Russia as a part of itself, but I want you to understand and realize that Russia is a christian civilization. We may have any local conflicts, as Europe had it for thousand of years, but globally we are the one big christian civilization. I can understand left-wing agression towards Russia, but conservative european community should be with us. You have to recognize that only consolidation with Russia will lead us together to the belle epoque. I believe that you should focus on your main problems - islamization and secularization (in the general sense).
    Rest in Peace, Sir Roger Scruton

    • @karlosthejackel69
      @karlosthejackel69 3 года назад

      UK BBC is seriously ramping up Russia as an enemy! But, no one believes it’s.
      God knows what our future is

    • @EEVOL
      @EEVOL 2 года назад +2

      Tell that to Ukraine and the Baltic countries who find themselves on the defence from Russian aggression.

  • @sebastianmelmoth685
    @sebastianmelmoth685 6 лет назад +2

    Agree

  • @vladratzen7319
    @vladratzen7319 5 лет назад +1

    i call my self a libertarian and i can assure you, not all of them are the same. please dont forget that the united states was founded on the libertarian idea. it was the libretarian way of thinking, that made this country so successfull and enduring. it was the deep belief in this kind of ideology, which made it possible to create nice citys like new york in the past, AND detroit which had also beautiful modern architecture in the past.
    the decay, the destruction and the uglyness of today came, after the libertarian idea and the belief in the constitution was more and more rejected by the politicans, the media and people like Scruton who spread the idea that libertarianism is somehow outlandish or even wrong.
    a nation filled with people like these can only archive the decay, the destruction and the uglyness of today, because they doesnt know how an environment looks like, in which success is possible.

  • @rkucera1
    @rkucera1 7 лет назад +19

    Great talk! 👏👏👏👏

  • @iga27
    @iga27 8 лет назад +3

    So on the one hand, he blames the EU for the migration crisis, and on the other, he bewails the fact that Europe is not as religious as it used to be, for then the migrants, meaning muslims, would feel more at home here? I must say that for a first class philosopher, or thinker at least, that I considered him to be, this is a pretty wanky argumentation.

  • @sw.7519
    @sw.7519 4 года назад +2

    Tolerance towards intolerance is insane.

  • @mickadams1905
    @mickadams1905 5 лет назад

    Was that Tyler from Secure Team asking a question?
    Sure sounded like him.

  • @Manx123
    @Manx123 3 года назад +3

    A bit disappointing that Scruton fearmongered about Russia, as if Europe has anything to fear from a country so far removed from Western Europe with the GDP of Italy.

    • @johnbatson8779
      @johnbatson8779 2 года назад

      do you still think that it is fear mongering to be worried about the world's richest crook, our Putin??

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 2 года назад

      @@johnbatson8779 still not the West's problem, lol, and sure as fuck isn't the UK's problem. Maybe the EU's problem, maybe.

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 2 года назад

      Okay, to be fair, current events too to cast doubt on this opinion. However, few people predicted Putin would be so bold, and it still doesn't present a direct threat to Western Europe, (unless Putin's invasion is continuously challenged).

  •  4 года назад +1

    Why do they have to have someone to introduce the introducer? Great presentation though. R.I.P. Roger.

  • @Shevock
    @Shevock 2 года назад +1

    "Some nos are also yeses." I may not have always agreed with his policy choices but it's hard to disagree with his insights into the conservative impulse.

  • @PedroGomes-mt3iz
    @PedroGomes-mt3iz 5 лет назад

    why has this been recommended to me only just now?

  • @j4ck2234
    @j4ck2234 7 лет назад +7

    Include name of speaker in the video title but especially when it's Roger fucking Scruton. You'll attract more new users.

    • @wilmingtonlongman
      @wilmingtonlongman 7 лет назад +2

      I never knew his middle name was "Fucking"

    • @j4ck2234
      @j4ck2234 7 лет назад +2

      He does not advertise that fact.

    • @wilmingtonlongman
      @wilmingtonlongman 7 лет назад +1

      j4ck2234 in my own, little world, he will always be Roger Fucking Scruton to me from now on

  • @TimBitts649
    @TimBitts649 5 лет назад

    Roger Scruton: linkyou.blog/answering-sir-roger-scruton-part-1/
    Islam and Europe: linkyou.blog/islam-europeans-and-evolution-and-patriarchy/
    linkyou.blog/critiquing-jordan-peterson/

  • @BurntF3aceMan
    @BurntF3aceMan 5 лет назад

    starts at 4:20

  • @stephenmurray2851
    @stephenmurray2851 5 лет назад

    We need to work together more effectively and take a more holistic approach. If France is the battlefield against Islam then all whites in all countries should fund and support their efforts and see their victory as our victory. After this we all put our support behind Britain and their battle for the right to firearms. And so on and so on. Applied force. Work together.

  • @coyotebones1131
    @coyotebones1131 3 года назад

    Spiritual growth is real, and the only way to maintain a civilization. Reject everything that’s not true as much as you can

  • @shadowshow701
    @shadowshow701 5 лет назад +1

    He says nothing that hasn't been said a hundred times before. What he leaves out is that Europe has, like Japan, been essentially an occupied continent - both militarily and financially - since World War 2. Why do historians never address the startling fact that America refused to sign any Peace Treaties after World War 2 until 1990s. For 40 years, It meant that America was able to retain its military occupation of Germany, France and Italy. If it had signed a Treaty, it wld have been required to withdraw its troops. Whenever Europe looked ready to resist this, various bogus terrorist groups were drummed up to justify America's continuing occupation and invisible control of European politics, economy and foreign policy

  • @ArchetypeGotoh
    @ArchetypeGotoh 4 года назад +1

    28:20 he is a modern prophet, it seems: “predicting the future” by accurately seeing the present

    • @coyotebones1131
      @coyotebones1131 3 года назад

      Ya if you took real prophets seriously you could do that easy

  • @nicholascooper1092
    @nicholascooper1092 3 года назад

    It begs the question why do the bbc never allow these issues to be debated. Most brexiteers have voted to leave not because of the reasons remainers tell us but because of far more significant fundamental reasons. Thank his we’ve gone

  • @ghirardellichocolate201
    @ghirardellichocolate201 4 года назад

    Unhealthy food industry. What is causing it? The Government. I am originally from Armenia, and trust, I would know. Government allowing bad food to go to market, or an old crop from reserves. I mean, how do you store crop? Humidity matters, but with rains, you will have it all wet. Say, why would you want to store? During bad times, this is the food you want to use - bread. So saving for dark times, is saving for bread.

  • @arpitakodagu9854
    @arpitakodagu9854 5 лет назад +1

    Slobbering over America is pretty much par for the course in lectures like this - Scruton doesn't disappoint!

  • @hanskloss7726
    @hanskloss7726 5 лет назад

    Not sure i agree on Russia . Notvthe part about putin seeing EU fir what it is but where ethnic conflicts can lead to partition of big structures that we fo not like (sovjet union, then russia as well as Yugoslavia and then Serbia etc) while at the same time ignoring plight of Russian and Serbian communites outside of their home countries, cleansing if Krajina comes to mind.
    Other than that: great stuff. It was a great pleasure to watch and sonetimes dusagree.

  • @williambeaumont1312
    @williambeaumont1312 5 лет назад

    Secular urbanization and free trade, a global society ruled by the merchant class, the merchants who rule the world are what leads is to destruction as our historical identity as a society and toward the loss of our reason for existing. We see the disappearance of the good life, to be replaced by simply having more stuff; stuff that everyone has or seems to want, stuff that one needs to have in order to belong to the culture of everyday discovering new things to want, things that give us our identity as good consumers. Our value as individuals is measured by our ability to keep buying new stuff to replace the old and so keep the merchant economy growing and the merchants, of whatever it is that people want, happy.

  • @veritaspacem8757
    @veritaspacem8757 4 года назад

    04:19 start

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 8 лет назад +3

    Also disagree with his more traditional and collective focus for things that he revealed in his response to the question about libertarians. He is holding onto a European status quo that has long since died and which, in its heyday, was maintained by societies who prized virtue even if they didn't practice it. That collective social structure, being capable of taking corrective actions against internal decay rather than being forced to accomidate it in the name of "human rights" and "democracy", worked because of shared ideals which weren't limited to mere legal frameworks. When the Napoleons of the world, being disconnected from the political order of their time, could create their own morality, then the fall of Europe was assured. A political framework, with the vague limits on human behavior that focus on the means(rights and "rights") rather than the ends(how society should look), may be able to unleash industrious individuals but, when created in a well-established collective society, can't define society without descending into the downward spiral of statism charactorized by "quick fixes", endless laws regulating every form behavior, and economic stagnation.
    If you want freedom, you have to start from scratch. This was the lesson of the French Revolution where attempts to use the government and excessive laws to make freedom less painful when introduced on an already developed society resulted in a bloodbath and a dictatorship. Either Europe should become 100% Catholic/Orthodox or it should start a nuclear war since those are the only 2 ways Europe will ever be able to reform itself without decaying even further.

    • @crimsonsamuraiftw
      @crimsonsamuraiftw 6 лет назад +3

      There is no need to become a hyper religious state, just the ability to speak freely to tell the hard truth that those in the ruling left do not want to hear. Diversity does not always work out for the best. Some religions are not worth putting on a pedestal. Complacency and appeasement are not traits of quality to be found in a leader. If someone commits a crime that makes them a criminal regardless of what religion they belong to. Take care of your own first, and then you can think about exporting friendship and a helping hand at the root of the problem. These are things that cannot be spoken in public due to over reaching laws of the morally bankrupt politically correct left.