@@lucaschan1903 only by ult? neuv can heal himself with skill and ult lmao. Matter a fact you can heal neuvillette to full hp multiple times in a row once you used his ult
not rlly the actuall thing is arlecchino: managing hp difficult but high dmg neuvilette:lower damage than above but still good dps, self sustain conculsion:both are good
finally someone actually compared by showing the builds and what a detailed comparison! he covered every scenario here great video!!! so arlecchino does more damage but a bit less comfortable to play compared to neuvillette who's a bit better in aoe. well both are amazing to have.
@@HooperHops69 Xiangling is not giving any single BUFF to Neuvi. Blessing was same for both teams so it is not important. If there would be HP based bennet Neuvi would be stronger and that's a fact
hes balanced around there not being hp bennett… if one existed hed have 30% less multipliers to compensate for the 30% more hp he would give, like atk chars do.
I feel like hp scaling characters should get a support like Bennett who gives hp% instead of attack,bc it's unfair that ho scaling characters don't have a support that can give them a bunch of hp,just like how benny gives so much attack with his burst to any character who stands in his circle. Rn hp scaling characters can only get elemental bonus damage fro Kazuha, Mona and Furina. But none of them can increase our hp. Hopefully when Natlan arrives,there will be support characters that can give us more hp,def and attack. Hopefully pyro archon does that and aplies pyro really fast with her skill,so that Neuvi can vape more better!!! Cause rn attack scaling characters have way more easy buffers/supports than hp scaling characters.
That would make ATK scalers more useless than they are now after Neuvi released. Neuvilette is inherently easy to play while being the top dog and also being extra tanky due to him having HP scaling.
Nice comparison. I think that yeah arlechinno had a better clear than neuv, by a mere 2s But look, to achieve this, you had to retry first chamber with arlechinno because of the rng, and she lost to him on aoe, despite your rotations with her being more optimized than his rotation. Yes she is superior to him single targer wise but that is obvious, since many teams can beat neuv in ST. But as you said in your very first try, neuv consistency, as well as the fact that he doesnt give a shit about the enemy position, their attacks patterns, the self healing etc, settle the fight between the two
if the magu kenki's form a triangle even neuvilette's laser can't take them down together. you say many teams can beat neuvilette in ST but have you seen them clearing abyss over all faster then neuvilette? no! as they're much worse in aoe. meanwhile arle was just 4 sec behind neuvilette in aoe and 2 sec ahead overall which is what matters. I don't think any other ST teams can achieve this. so if you're skilled enough you'll be clearing content faster with arlecchino.
@@dain09-e3l about your first opinion, you're wrong, neuv laser can hit everyone without even taking care of being hit or not. And for the rest, that's what I said, if you're skill enough you can clear faster in ST, but not in aoe with multiple waves. Whereas neuv, wheter you're skilled or not he will always be able to clear wthout even thinking of dodging or whatsoever, that makes him better for every type of players, especially casuals who dont give a fuck about optimization of clear time, farming, and tryharding their rotations and skills searching for a mere 2% dps increase, and just want to chill breaking trough abyss. And you know that genshin fanbase is mainly those type of players, you may consider speed run with clear rotations and skill dodging but you are just part of that 10% of the genshin community who cares abt that. And that's why neuv is better than arlechinno, because he allows those players to simplify the combat while having the best aoe clear, and like the 5th best ST clear
@@djampoucheukap1742 lol dude a straight line can't cover up triangle. so if the magu kenki's form a triangle a straight line lazor can't take them down at a time also the player base doesn't decide whether a character is better than some other character, it's based on the character's abilities. if used properly arle is better than neuvillette. so in the end it all comes down to preference
@@dain09-e3l lmao😂😂 neuv aoe is not just a simple straight line, I used to think like that when I saw his gameplay leaks back in 4.0, but no his aoe is mobile, so if there is a triangle neuv can just adjust the angle to touch everyone, in a single way, and if really required everyone know his motherfucking spin 2 win tech. And for the playerbase, you're repeating what I said, when arlechino is well used she can beat neuvi, only in ST ofc😅. You're right. But neuv wheter well used or not can crush her in aoe, and have a mere 2s late clear than her in ST,full stop. So for a player who dont know how to dodge, how to do the best rotations and so on, which constitutes the majority of the genshin impact playerbase, and that is straight up a fact you cant deny statistically, guess who will better ? Think about it for a second, Do you really think the guy will learn how to dodge properly just to gain a mere 2s clear against a boss? Yes I agree it comes from preference in the end, and enjoy who you want, but objectively speaking you cant say arlechinno is easier to play than him, it's false. "Why try harder for 2s more in a boss room and try easier and always clear especially in multiple waves?"
@@djampoucheukap1742 no matter how you position him if they form a triangle you can only Target 2 enemies at a time. yea spin to win I have tried many times but never got it more than 2 rotations... lol this abyss had both aoe and single target where arle had overall better clear time what do you mean only in single target. you see she's just 4 sec behind in aoe that too because he kept using kazuha in the end instead he could have just used arlecchino. and neuvillette is 6 seconds behind in other cases not just 2 seconds which is why the overall 2 seconds difference. for the aoe content I am sure you know jello impact you can watch his video where he tried the infinite vishap challenge using different teams. you'll see how much actual difference is there in aoe. as for dodging I am sure the players know a minimum amount as you'll have to use something in the other half. so it's not that hard. that being said I never said arle is easier to play I just want to make it clear that she's the strongest dps may not be the most comfortable or safe but definitely the strongest. and this doesn't only consider ST cases it's overall. if neuvillette is great at aoe, she's quite good in it too unlike other ST dps who are worse in aoe.
they both are amazing, why compare? also comparing a pyro polearm to hydro catalyst? comparision has lost its meaning if you want to compare then compare two characters that share same element
personally arle is better for my playstyle, I love playing pyro characters and i do have Neuv on my alt and I STRUGGLE with playing as him ^^ I also do enjoy dodging while in a fight in genshin and you kinda need to do that when playing as arle :D
Bro you got a serious skill issue or you have inhaled absurd amount of copium, even rookies of Ar50-53 clearing abyss with neuvillete he's the most comfiest consistent dps of all time hoyo admitted that neuvillete's kit is overpowered since he's the face of fontaine.
In lore wise comparison? dawg hu tao is literally just a girl who runs a funeral parlour and still out performs a literally being who fought in the archon war😭😭 I'm not going against you or anything, its just so stupid and funny
I have them both but neuvi feels a lot comfy and easy to use. I have better build on arle (homa ,cr 60:270) but neuvi (amber, cr 40:210) yet neuvi feels equally strong as arle. My arle dies quickly but neuvi rarely ever dies. End of the day for me neuvi is better than arle in general . And i actually like neuvi playstyle ( i know lot of ppl hate jis playstyle, somehow it feels fun for me ).
Neuvilette is still stronger and there isn't even a proper team for him there are tons of fast Hydro applicators that Arlecchino can take advantage of but there are barely Pyro applicators that apply the amount that Neuvilette needs also your Furina is barely doing anything there like who is healing there Neuvilette's hydro thingies? 💀
@@HooperHops69 I'm saying he doesn't have enough dedicated units but it's ok i wouldn't expect Yuegui to understand it and it seems i can't ask any better of you either since that's what you understood from what i said ... either that or you're purposely twisting it out of biases either way it's wrong
Agreed, his best teammates are general supports that buffs ATK/HP scalers, even DEF and EM scaling units with Furina and Zhongli. Xiangling as a forward vape enabler doesn't give much other than pyro application in close range, her C1 pyro res shred, C6 pyro dmg buff and chili is useless for Neuvillette. Only way she can give buff is equipping her w 4pc instructor and that's gonna make her ER reqs harder to reach as a solo pyro in the team
@@kanashiiinu9124 agreed the difference will show itself when units that have the actual intended synergy with Neuvilette at least Arlecchino can use the best supports in the game for reactions plus his AoE is insanely better
edit: People getting their egos hurt over someone else's opinion about an online video game is craaazy. Meet people outside guys, the world does not revolve around a video game, let alone someone's opinion LMAO Arlechinno had Bennet, of course she'll win. If Neuvii had someone like Bennet but HP buff, i think he'd win. Anyone who scales with ATK paired with Bennet should always win comparisons towards the ones that don't.
@@jylsonjohn well if we got a character which gives hp buff like Bennett, you will cry oh neuvi doesn't furina, or xiangling to vape Or kazuha buff because a team can only have 4 character and removing any character is dps loss. U r cry baby admit it.
@@defeatankylosing LMAO you're the one who cried for no reason, what i said we're mere facts and that hurt your ego HAHAHA, i'm sorry if i hurt your little fragile feelings man my bad LOL. Snowflakes be like:(this guy) 😂
WTF 😅 "he is better because better aoe ☝️ 🤓 he doesn't need Bennett" arlecchino doesn't need Bennett as well it just Bennett is in her best team nuivelet best team has Kazuha furina and zhonling 3 powerful 5 stars is that make him bad like wtf bro game is easy you can solo clear the abyss and there's nothing to do other than abyss which is why it doesn't matter and you should play with character that you like
Ok… while dragon boy can’t kill hydro slimes. Father can kill pyro slimes. Case closed
Mic drop
and father can also heal herself by ult, so father is better
And neuvillette can heal himself too lol@@lucaschan1903
@@lucaschan1903 only by ult? neuv can heal himself with skill and ult lmao. Matter a fact you can heal neuvillette to full hp multiple times in a row once you used his ult
@@lucaschan1903can bro solo a whole crowd???
arlecchino: bennet, sgntr weapon, kazuha, perfect rotation
neuvillette: prototype amber (optional)
not rlly the actuall thing is
arlecchino: managing hp difficult but high dmg
neuvilette:lower damage than above but still good dps, self sustain
conculsion:both are good
finally someone actually compared by showing the builds and what a detailed comparison! he covered every scenario here great video!!! so arlecchino does more damage but a bit less comfortable to play compared to neuvillette who's a bit better in aoe. well both are amazing to have.
Neuvill is the best male and Arle is the best female main dps character that's it
Bro established world peace with this one
hu tao is stronger than arlecchino tho..
@@hyde_stopStealingMyUsername nah, she aint
@@jeanphilip4495 probably means you don’t know anything about TC or you can’t do N2CJ/N2CD
@@hyde_stopStealingMyUsername yeah nvm bro i dont look that much into the game, you won 💀
Neuv wins overall imo, his burst animation takes up 1-2sec whereas Arlec doesn't need a burst, she also needed a restart so...
Also .. these runs are speed runs. If these fights were long , we'd see the difference between them clearly.
Arlecchino c6 > c6 neuvi. At c0 neuvi wins because of sustain but at c6 arlecchino kills everything so fast make neuvi useless
@@starskygamers876 well not everyone can C6 haha
Massive copium
@starskygamers876 bro even yelan at c6 kills everything. Heck even eula
Arllechino Has 3 "Perfect supports". Neuvi is still missing one other than Kazu and Furina
@@HooperHops69 Xiangling is not giving any single BUFF to Neuvi. Blessing was same for both teams so it is not important. If there would be HP based bennet Neuvi would be stronger and that's a fact
Womp Womp
@@Furinasupremacyy11 another strong argument lmaooo
hes balanced around there not being hp bennett… if one existed hed have 30% less multipliers to compensate for the 30% more hp he would give, like atk chars do.
@@maciekgenji88 she's getting another one.... probably the best one in natalan lmao
Neuvillette be like finnally a worthy opponent
I feel like hp scaling characters should get a support like Bennett who gives hp% instead of attack,bc it's unfair that ho scaling characters don't have a support that can give them a bunch of hp,just like how benny gives so much attack with his burst to any character who stands in his circle. Rn hp scaling characters can only get elemental bonus damage fro Kazuha, Mona and Furina. But none of them can increase our hp. Hopefully when Natlan arrives,there will be support characters that can give us more hp,def and attack. Hopefully pyro archon does that and aplies pyro really fast with her skill,so that Neuvi can vape more better!!! Cause rn attack scaling characters have way more easy buffers/supports than hp scaling characters.
Frr
I've been trying to find someone else who thinks like this for a long time
That would make ATK scalers more useless than they are now after Neuvi released.
Neuvilette is inherently easy to play while being the top dog and also being extra tanky due to him having HP scaling.
The reason theyre built with such high multipliers IS BECAUSE they're hp scalers that don't have a bennett. It's for balance.
I hope they never had released Bennett so they wouldn't need to give ATK scalers lower scaling to keep the game balanced
Nice comparison. I think that yeah arlechinno had a better clear than neuv, by a mere 2s
But look, to achieve this, you had to retry first chamber with arlechinno because of the rng, and she lost to him on aoe, despite your rotations with her being more optimized than his rotation.
Yes she is superior to him single targer wise but that is obvious, since many teams can beat neuv in ST.
But as you said in your very first try, neuv consistency, as well as the fact that he doesnt give a shit about the enemy position, their attacks patterns, the self healing etc, settle the fight between the two
if the magu kenki's form a triangle even neuvilette's laser can't take them down together.
you say many teams can beat neuvilette in ST but have you seen them clearing abyss over all faster then neuvilette? no! as they're much worse in aoe. meanwhile arle was just 4 sec behind neuvilette in aoe and 2 sec ahead overall which is what matters. I don't think any other ST teams can achieve this.
so if you're skilled enough you'll be clearing content faster with arlecchino.
@@dain09-e3l about your first opinion, you're wrong, neuv laser can hit everyone without even taking care of being hit or not.
And for the rest, that's what I said, if you're skill enough you can clear faster in ST, but not in aoe with multiple waves. Whereas neuv, wheter you're skilled or not he will always be able to clear wthout even thinking of dodging or whatsoever, that makes him better for every type of players, especially casuals who dont give a fuck about optimization of clear time, farming, and tryharding their rotations and skills searching for a mere 2% dps increase, and just want to chill breaking trough abyss. And you know that genshin fanbase is mainly those type of players, you may consider speed run with clear rotations and skill dodging but you are just part of that 10% of the genshin community who cares abt that. And that's why neuv is better than arlechinno, because he allows those players to simplify the combat while having the best aoe clear, and like the 5th best ST clear
@@djampoucheukap1742 lol dude a straight line can't cover up triangle. so if the magu kenki's form a triangle a straight line lazor can't take them down at a time
also the player base doesn't decide whether a character is better than some other character, it's based on the character's abilities. if used properly arle is better than neuvillette.
so in the end it all comes down to preference
@@dain09-e3l lmao😂😂 neuv aoe is not just a simple straight line, I used to think like that when I saw his gameplay leaks back in 4.0, but no his aoe is mobile, so if there is a triangle neuv can just adjust the angle to touch everyone, in a single way, and if really required everyone know his motherfucking spin 2 win tech.
And for the playerbase, you're repeating what I said, when arlechino is well used she can beat neuvi, only in ST ofc😅. You're right.
But neuv wheter well used or not can crush her in aoe, and have a mere 2s late clear than her in ST,full stop. So for a player who dont know how to dodge, how to do the best rotations and so on, which constitutes the majority of the genshin impact playerbase, and that is straight up a fact you cant deny statistically, guess who will better ? Think about it for a second, Do you really think the guy will learn how to dodge properly just to gain a mere 2s clear against a boss?
Yes I agree it comes from preference in the end, and enjoy who you want, but objectively speaking you cant say arlechinno is easier to play than him, it's false. "Why try harder for 2s more in a boss room and try easier and always clear especially in multiple waves?"
@@djampoucheukap1742 no matter how you position him if they form a triangle you can only Target 2 enemies at a time. yea spin to win I have tried many times but never got it more than 2 rotations...
lol this abyss had both aoe and single target where arle had overall better clear time what do you mean only in single target. you see she's just 4 sec behind in aoe that too because he kept using kazuha in the end instead he could have just used arlecchino. and neuvillette is 6 seconds behind in other cases not just 2 seconds which is why the overall 2 seconds difference. for the aoe content I am sure you know jello impact you can watch his video where he tried the infinite vishap challenge using different teams. you'll see how much actual difference is there in aoe.
as for dodging I am sure the players know a minimum amount as you'll have to use something in the other half. so it's not that hard.
that being said I never said arle is easier to play I just want to make it clear that she's the strongest dps may not be the most comfortable or safe but definitely the strongest. and this doesn't only consider ST cases it's overall. if neuvillette is great at aoe, she's quite good in it too unlike other ST dps who are worse in aoe.
they both are amazing, why compare? also comparing a pyro polearm to hydro catalyst? comparision has lost its meaning
if you want to compare then compare two characters that share same element
For my opinion I think they the same but Arlecchino is more like high risk high dmg but Neuvillette is more like in safe
Very nice take. They are both very good characters, just depends on your playstyle.
People forgetting about abyss blessing lol 😂 wait till 4.7 and watch arrle go down the pit
personally arle is better for my playstyle, I love playing pyro characters and i do have Neuv on my alt and I STRUGGLE with playing as him ^^ I also do enjoy dodging while in a fight in genshin and you kinda need to do that when playing as arle :D
Bro you got a serious skill issue or you have inhaled absurd amount of copium, even rookies of Ar50-53 clearing abyss with neuvillete he's the most comfiest consistent dps of all time hoyo admitted that neuvillete's kit is overpowered since he's the face of fontaine.
@@ranjansutradhar1046 calm down brother it's just a game am I not allowed to have fun
like are you ok?
@@ranjansutradhar1046 clean it up after you done eating his meat
What ever the results ! But i think arlechino doesn't even stand closer to nuvillette in lore wise comparison 😂
In lore wise comparison? dawg hu tao is literally just a girl who runs a funeral parlour and still out performs a literally being who fought in the archon war😭😭
I'm not going against you or anything, its just so stupid and funny
@@left6466 hu Tao is good not lore wise but gameplay wise very fun to plan that's why I have c4 hutao
BRO SHE IS LITERALLY AN HARBINGER
Top harbinger had power of gods.. :nahida
Like those unknown gods.. not archons
@@yash31400 he is a drogon sovereign even more powerful than archons
Finally got the video where furina is used properly
Arlexhino is not single target bro she has also aoe normals
She is a single target the hell u on about☠️
Guyz arlecchino won. That’s the fact like stop crying about it like damn those are digital characters get a life or idk go farm more artefacts
If you're paying attention, Neuv still pulls ahead
The difference in cleartime is easily the burst animations for neuvillette.
@@momochan5963 arlecchino still won cry about it
@@momochan5963 get a life you’re in every comments it’s pitiful
Nah Alhaitham is fastest in Abyss
@@yash31400 i mean, I pulled alhaitham over arlecchino because he is hot 💀
arle is better than haitham but still I love playing him so not regretting
Great comparison and very good takes on both characters, pulling for meta is more nonsense than ever, just pull who you like and that’s it
I have them both but neuvi feels a lot comfy and easy to use. I have better build on arle (homa ,cr 60:270) but neuvi (amber, cr 40:210) yet neuvi feels equally strong as arle. My arle dies quickly but neuvi rarely ever dies. End of the day for me neuvi is better than arle in general . And i actually like neuvi playstyle ( i know lot of ppl hate jis playstyle, somehow it feels fun for me ).
neuv for AOE and arle for ST
Nuvellette is better because he is consistent and more f2p friendly than arle
What does the kazhua skill at the start do?
Confuses the kenki AI and makes them not dash all over the place.
@@rrat6699savage😂
Is Baizhu worth getting over Furina? I have both Neuvilette and Arlechino but I suck at dodging and my only built shielder is zhongli
nah furina is kinda insane but you need healers
@@DrAce001 oh ye i forgot about that I don't have any good healers I could use. But I thought neuvilette would gain and lose enough hp for Furina?
nice rotations
By the way this abyss layline don’t fav neuv by the way
Neuvillette c1 clear triple maku in 8s
Can arlecchino “beat” neuvilette 😈😈
💀
i think single target wise arle better but aoe neuv better. but honestly slap these two in your abyss and you will easily 36 star it lmao
Never😅
I can't play with my avg xiao in this Abyss . 😢
@@HooperHops69 xiao does NOT depend on xianyun a lot. you can replace her with bennett or c4 jean or c0 jean in a furina team. dont spread false info
@@HooperHops69 i have xianyun and c1 faruzan . Maggu kenki fight was ez but copellius
@@Carnagee2208 bennett with enough er can solo the shield or do another run and place xiao in the 2nd chamber and use a vape team against coppelius
Neuvilette is still stronger and there isn't even a proper team for him
there are tons of fast Hydro applicators that Arlecchino can take advantage of
but there are barely Pyro applicators that apply the amount that Neuvilette needs
also your Furina is barely doing anything there like who is healing there Neuvilette's hydro thingies? 💀
So sad cry harder neuvi mains crying harder then ever
@@newmoon6549 I don't even have Neuvilette lol how am i a main? cope harder Midlechino fangirl
@@HooperHops69 I'm saying he doesn't have enough dedicated units but it's ok i wouldn't expect Yuegui to understand it and it seems i can't ask any better of you either since that's what you understood from what i said ...
either that or you're purposely twisting it out of biases either way it's wrong
Agreed, his best teammates are general supports that buffs ATK/HP scalers, even DEF and EM scaling units with Furina and Zhongli.
Xiangling as a forward vape enabler doesn't give much other than pyro application in close range, her C1 pyro res shred, C6 pyro dmg buff and chili is useless for Neuvillette. Only way she can give buff is equipping her w 4pc instructor and that's gonna make her ER reqs harder to reach as a solo pyro in the team
@@kanashiiinu9124 agreed the difference will show itself when units that have the actual intended synergy with Neuvilette
at least Arlecchino can use the best supports in the game for reactions plus his AoE is insanely better
Neuvillette is so easy to play until the playstyle becomes so brain dead that it is boring.
if you are like AR 60, build a normal attack neuvillette, he ***works***
Ill go with arlexhino she is strongest
Copellius,abyss lectors and those damned mf local legends are SO ANNOYING!!!! I HATE how hoyo is putting them in abyss constantly 😀
Don't even get me started on how mf tanky those local legends are, it's like they have more hp and are harder to fight then the triple magu kenkis💀
Neuvi>>>>Arle
Both are strong
Alre Better
@@ammarnk9260Neuvi>
Did you watch the video
@@rajaryan-fe1oy these kids summoned for Neuvi on his last banner and had to skip Alre so they do this to cope lol
edit: People getting their egos hurt over someone else's opinion about an online video game is craaazy. Meet people outside guys, the world does not revolve around a video game, let alone someone's opinion LMAO
Arlechinno had Bennet, of course she'll win. If Neuvii had someone like Bennet but HP buff, i think he'd win. Anyone who scales with ATK paired with Bennet should always win comparisons towards the ones that don't.
He has furina + hydro resonance so +25 % hp
@@defeatankylosing you know Arlechinno has pyro resonance and furina as well right?
@@jylsonjohn well if we got a character which gives hp buff like Bennett, you will cry oh neuvi doesn't furina, or xiangling to vape Or kazuha buff because a team can only have 4 character and removing any character is dps loss.
U r cry baby admit it.
@@defeatankylosing LMAO you're the one who cried for no reason, what i said we're mere facts and that hurt your ego HAHAHA, i'm sorry if i hurt your little fragile feelings man my bad LOL.
Snowflakes be like:(this guy) 😂
@@defeatankylosing before you reply to someone's comment next time please watch the video at least LMAO
Arlecchino better and more fun
Ain't no way bro said fun☠️
No Neuvillitte Is Better Because Aoe And Dose not Need Bennett
WTF 😅 "he is better because better aoe ☝️ 🤓 he doesn't need Bennett" arlecchino doesn't need Bennett as well it just Bennett is in her best team nuivelet best team has Kazuha furina and zhonling 3 powerful 5 stars is that make him bad like wtf bro game is easy you can solo clear the abyss and there's nothing to do other than abyss which is why it doesn't matter and you should play with character that you like
well buddy i know it's tough to swallow but unfortunately it is what it is....
Bruh everyone is screaming about Bennett, who is 4 star. Never have I seen anyone say the same thing about Neuvilette with Furina.
Bro she's stronger but yeah highly depended on skill and enemy ig
Ikr