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Lol you didnt even touch on our straight up unconstitutional citizen disarmament laws being passed by fat cat pritzker and brandon johnson, even though gun crime is at an ALL TIME HIGH, they focus on disarming law abiding citizens.
ha chris the cost of living in west virginia is way way less than what it is in new york city. the same house in west virginia would cost 4 times as much as new york city the taxes on the house in new your city would be 5 times what they are in west virginia. You would be wealthier living in west virginia making 15.00 hour than you would ever be in new york city. making 30 dollars a hour. A lot of the yuppies living in those yuppie towns in boston chicago new york chicago spend 60% of what they make on rent a 23 year old woman bachelor degree working as a customer service rep in a corporate headquarters in say chicago make 52000 a year would spend 60% of her after tax income on rent in chicago a 1 bedroom apartment in yuppie town cost 2000 a month or 24000 a year.
Our grandson left Illinois for Tennessee a few years ago, and our daughter and son-in-law are currently building their new home in Tennessee also leaving Illinois and our son, my husband and I are planning to follow behind them. Illinois is hopelessly corrupt and fiscally irresponsible.
I’m 27 & all of my friends who left the state of Illinois now have their own home. All of my friends who still live in Illinois are still broke & stuck in their parents basement. Take that for what u will🤷🏽
You just have to be careful. Every state has its way of extracting money. For instance, Tennessee has a 4% state grocery tax plus the applicable local tax. For a dead bang average annual grocery bill for a family of four, that is an extra $461 annually compared to Illinois currently with Illinois one percent grocery tax and this will increase to a difference of $614 extra when Illinois eliminates state grocery tax in 2026. There are more intangible elements such as access to freshwater. I guess what I’m saying is people should be very careful about choosing states simply based upon the most visible elements of state taxation and cost-of-living. Illinois is far more obvious in how it extracts money but most states get their money one way or the other.
As an Illinoisan, at the age of 23. I have an over arching belief that our State government just hates its citizens. As a young Illinoisan, it seams impossible to escape the corrupt suction of a State seemingly desperately trying to hold its own citizens back from prospering. For years, I have been trying to save my meager paycheck, just for the sole purpose of leaving. But, that is impossible thanks to this State of decay. One day I will finally escape, and flip the bird to the State that I have had the inconvenience of being born in.
Stop your whining!🙄🙄 Last I checked, Central Illinois is getting almost two dollars from Springfield for every dollar that it pays (and Southern Illinois is getting almost THREE for one from Springfield). Meanwhile, for generation after generation, Chicago is the dumping ground for housing projects, Section 8, homeless shelters, SROs, cheap houses, and cheap apartments. Are you from a rural area, or a N.I.M.B.Y. suburb?
@JaredMerlin Yes, agree. Crazy expensive insurance, high prices (coming down though). My personal experience with Chicago was property tax costing me $5,500 in 2012 rising to judt under $12,000 in 2019 (the year I sold).
As an Illinoisan, this was a pretty good analysis on what's going on. I'm a student in an Iowa college currently and I don't anticipate returning to Illinois when I'm done.
I feel bad for the people who want to live at “home” but can’t afford to, or they can’t make themselves because the current climate disgusts them so much.
When I got out of the Army, my wife picked IL because her parents and sister's family are here. I live near the Mississippi... SO close to making it into Iowa!
Sorry to say but the state is shit, Yes, but that "Depressive Vibe" exists primarily in Chicago city-proper or the nasty ass south suburbs. Much of Illinois is beautiful and not invested with big city-types. Have you ever visited such a place such as Starved Rock State Park or Matthiessen State Park? Unfortunately most of us grew up in a very nasty part of northwest Indiana or northeast Illinois, simply because that is where all of the "Good Jobs" (manufacturing, steel, or oil) existed 60+ years ago.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Starved Rock is ghetto and full of graffiti when I went there last a few years ago. I wont go again. I'll Check out Savannah IL state parks next time. Its further away from the city and prolly less hooligans there.
Well one reason I know of is illinois gun laws. I have a family member who has the exact same firearms as me and he is now a felon if he's caught because of the gun law. The leaders refuse to go after criminals who post them shooting full auto illegal pistols on RUclips with their faces and where they live.. Yet absolutely nothing gets done. I have sent 20 videos to the police and authorities yet the same gangsters keep posting videos of themselves shooting into the air towards other houses or into "abandoned" houses. Those are the guns killing people, not my family members rifle that sits in his safe 364 days out of the year. But they would arrest him in a second goodness forbid if he wanted to bring his firearms to go shooting here in Wisconsin. If he gets pulled over while driving his guns up here he gets 10 YEARS in prison. Illinois is completely insane. They go after the good guys while the bad guys kill society. There is absolutely zero common sense in govt in Illinois. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know... But you guys have let it get that bad. You've let the total corruption run unchecked. Please don't come here though and bring that insane mindset and ideology with you. If you are fleeing your state.. don't ruin the state you are going to.
Humm... As a free man you should own way more! Take this as permission to buy another AR .....suppressed... Course ...if we actually were free we'd have the selector switch....
I left Illinois shortly after the 2020 election. Between Herr Pritzker and Biden, I read the writing on the wall. I was paying almost $12,000 in taxes on a townhouse with no land. Now I have a home nestled on a 10-acre wooded lot in Northern Wisconsin and pay $4800. No regrets.
Are the property taxes in Wisconsin as bad as some say? I know its better than IL property taxes, but I've heard certain people complain about WI property taxes. Not sure if their property taxes aren't as bad, as some allege?
@BoratWanksta There could be a couple of reasons for that; they live close to the Illinois border, or, more likely, they have NO idea what high taxes really are. ;-) My property taxes were cut by at least HALF and I am currently paying $2.67 for gas. My friends in Illinois are paying $3.89.
@moverabc True. Housing market is insane. However, property further away from town with no improvements is much cheaper. I have natural gas heating...most areas outside of city limits don't.
Don't forget Bluto Pritzker told us to stay in our houses at all costs while his family traveled to FL and WI....funny, since those states were much more less restrictive than Illinois at the time.
I am one of those people who left Illinois not that long ago. It's amazing how much larger my paycheck is when you don't have to pay Illinois income taxes.
Maybe it’s because Illinois doesn’t want you to feel welcomed, they want you to have the privilege of living here by paying them. I realized how bad it got when I bought a video game and was hit with the IL online tax, and when I started selling guitars and Illinois feels like they should get a good chunk of that sale price. If you are buying online you are paying the same sales tax as everyone else, plus a ridiculous IL sales tax. They legitimately tax every single thing you do here and where does that money go? Certainty not to anyone living here.
Lmao a democrat paradise. The only thing we hate more than Illinois in Indiana is the Illinois plates that flood our streets because they refuse to move but come here for everything else because it’s cheaper. They bring their crime with them too. 🤮🤢
@@petebrown3715 That's pronounced Hellinois, and it lives up to name. Our county borders Kentucky, also close to Mo., and Tenn. People hardly ever buy gas in IL because it's usually 60 to 70 cents higher a gallon.Thats just one of many things. Illinois is not growing it's stagnated, high taxes, fees on everything, over the top on rules and regulations, license fees, and workman's comp is about the highest in the country. Why would businesses want to deal with a stacked deck? The thing to do is for the counties that want to pull away from Crook, be allowed to do so, and let Crook govern itself.
And if they vote the same the rest of us surrounding states don’t want them. Stay in your shit hole if you are gonna vote blue till you are dead or broke
My CPA tells me that one of his clients, a retired Chicago Public School Principal, is getting 270K pension and his retired librarian wife is getting 90K. Outrageous.
My sister-in-law in IL will get that or more once she retires as a teacher. My brother is high-up in tech, and she earns MORE than him now and isn't even in administration! I don't begrudge her, but how is that sustainable for the state?
I really don’t get it bro. So many of our neighbors will “vote blue not matter who” and then will act surprised when it gets worse and worse every year.
He didn’t say that “they” go after poor people specifically. He said that all people’s property taxes are high in Illinois, but only richer places fight them by hiring attorneys to do property taxes re-assessments
I moved back to Illinois 4 years ago since my wife's Mother had dementia. She is now deceased. I plan on moving hopefully next year. My property taxes have gone up more in 4 years here than my 25 years in Wisconsin. Everything costs more here. The most corrupt politicians in the country.
My old home town in IL has a commissioner who is also the Mayor of another town. This Super Mayor is in big trouble now, but has already done a lot of damage.
I should have never come back either. Had the chance to restart anywhere. I'm ready to leave. Got a small fire dept pension at 10 years. Then on to the next place. Live and learn.
I left Illinois in 1981 after growing up there. Springfield was already out of control and people were worried about the future. Now, 44 years later, the idiots are still voting for the same people or “family” of the same people. Nothing has changed. The officials are all rich now while the state continues to fall apart.
I still got family and friends in St Clair County and Madison County they still look the same way over and over and over. I was born and raised in Illinois Cahokia and Belleville Now I'm in Missouri hundreds of miles away from St Louis
Park Forest is one of the worst offenders with property taxes. I just did a random search on Zillow, and a house listed for $160k has annual taxes of $8000. Another one listed at $225k has annual taxes of $11,200. What a disaster of a state.
@@bucktwentyseven 333 Neola St, Park Forest - Listed at 225k - taxes are $11,200. 203 Sauk Trl, Park Forest - Listed at $160k, taxes are $8k Who's lying?
@@DaveScottADV well that’s not all of Illinois like that. Idk what the situation is with those houses. Those town have no commerce and the houses were probably rentals with no exemptions. My house is in a nice town and is worth double and I pay less in taxes.
Fixing the Illinois economy would require such a huge change, we need to see mass reforms in the Illinois govn't, nobody wants to do the obvious (limited spend on the problematic pensions in the state) -- because its political suicide. J.B. should honestly do it in his last term to finally fix the budget deficit. Arguably JB has done great for the Illinois economy--taking Illinois from a "BBB-" to an 'A-' with a stable outlook. If a Law could be passed which limited the states ability to payout pensions, like a Sovreign Pension Fund, (which is adjusted at special elections), the state's budget to payout pensions could be only $6 billion per year, saving $4 billion directly in property taxes per year for the taxpayer. No more $$$ to this political machine--its controlled by the people at elections then.
SAme here, stuck here in Du Page county because of my husbands family obligations.. we pay over 12,000 in property taxes a year and 8,000 of it goes to school board wasting money on law suits instead of teaching kids!!!! a once beautiful place!!!
@@juliagooliagiulia723 I'm 65 and in HINDSIGHT - Public Schools 1-8 and 9-12 were COMPLETELY useless. The only thing I ever used from those years was Drivers Ed.
I disagree with property taxes being the main issue. The problem is Marxist policies and a general disregard for the Constitution. In Illinois the “govment” seems to think rights are privileges that can be ignored when the “govment” feels like it. The only state I am aware of where I need their permission (FOID) to exercise my Constitutional right. Slavery was not ended in the 1800’s they just changed it to part time slavery in the form of fees, taxes and assessments.
Uh well property taxes are an issue in the last 4 years property values went down prices went up and property taxes are up a lot mine almost doubled as well as home insurance taxes in Illinois are the 2and highest only New Jersey is higher
Thanks Chris Harden for this good and informative video. I’d lived in the Chicago suburbs all of my life, until now. Earlier this year I moved from Chicagoland to the Indianapolis suburbs, and I’m not looking back. It’s sad, but I felt like was being punished for living in Illinois. The taxes, the corruption, the regulation, the crime, etc. My only regret is that I couldn’t leave Illinois sooner.
@@ChrisHarden yeah and we have noticed is that they come back with if 5 to 10 years! Medical care for one! Then some we have found are SOI workers who took a pay cut to live there and once again came back and wanted their jobs and medical insurance. Indiana being a Republican state will not except all of Medicaid and Medicare because a lot of the policies like Obamacare I brought about by the Democrats so they play politics and short, their residents of medical care and please don’t forget that they also tax Social Security for peoples retirement the state of Illinois does not do that.
Surrounding states will welcome you if you don’t vote like most Illinois residents do. If you gonna keep voting the same way, please stay in the mess you made .
We left IL over two years ago for a neighboring state and very happy we left. The property taxes and the unfunded future pension costs was a top reason.
Unfunded pensions in Illinois are not exclusive to Illinois. This happens all over the country. All levels of government, federal,state and local need to move in the direction of private enterprise which only pay to the worker while he/she works. If people don’t save to supplement their social security with a 401 or just an old fashioned retirement investment program or both they would be SOL.
Now just don’t vote blue or we will kick you out because us surrounding states hate when Illinois trash spills over into us and then they all vote the same way and try to ruin our states. Blue states suck
I left Illinois for Tennessee 4 years ago...and will never go back. Cook and DuPage counties are among the most corrupt in the country, and taxes are criminally high.
The south suburbs of Cook County were reassessed and got slammed with massive property tax increases in 2024. The Cook County Assessor, Cook County Treasurer, a representative of the Board of Review, and the Cook County Clerk all appeared on local news at various times over the course of a couple days. They all pointed fingers at each other, and also advised residents to complain to the local taxing agencies (such as Mosquito Abatement Districts-how the hell do you do that?) as well as state representatives in Springfield "to change the law." Zero accountability. Their disdain and indifference towards homeowners was palpable. The exodus from Illinois will only accelerate.
Lifetime resident and left Illinois in 2022. Life in Missouri is so much better. Everything feels more hopeful, more full of life, more energetic. It's weird being in a state that doesn't smell its own death approaching.
I lived in Illinois my whole life, but I’m going to school in Wisconsin. I’m leaving cause I’m sick of paying into the welfare state and seeing none of that money going back to our communities. The roads are horrible. Crime is pretty bad. Our communities and districts are horribly gerrymandered and gentrified. On my drive to work there’s always someone fented out or begging for money. I can say definitively that most of those moving out of state are middle class. We get taxed to shit and have our money sent to worthless state aid and SNAP programs that have done very little to actually help lift people out of poverty. I’ve seen it my entire life yet nothing has changed. The state is just ghetto af
It’s not a welfare state. Snap is federal. You don’t pay for snap with your taxes in Illinois. I would have less of a problem paying higher taxes if it were feeding people, but instead it’s going to retirements.. it’s going towards upper class, professional people and schools. Did you even watch the video? I love how you rambled off without any understanding of how anything actually works. Wisconsin is more of a welfare state than Illinois .Get mad at the rich who are robbing the working class.. and the poor. Don’t fall for the lie that poor people are taking it all away from you. That’s what the rich wants. They are actively trying to divide us while they rob us blind. How can you tell someone’s a hillbilly? They rant about things like snap. They rant about welfare and immigrants while ignoring the real problems.. billionaires and the military industrial complex.
I stayed in Lake County for a couple of months while interning across the border in Wisconsin. Even with just those two months, I was glad to get out of there. Gas was up to $1.20 cheaper just crossing the state line at some points. I never thought I'd miss living in Ohio, but two months in Illinois did that.
I live in downstate Illinois. I have a 3 bed 1 bath home on a small lot, luckily, my last property tax bill was about $1,100. And my home is worth 107K. I paid 51K for it back in 2021. It’s a nice home and not a dump. And the neighborhood is older but it looks nice. Chicago definitely pays for a lot of services for downstate. I’ve also came here from Mississippi about four years ago. Only things that are high here are property taxes and gas. But everything else here is relatively affordable. Insurance rates are cheaper. And I also make double then what I did when I was living in Mississippi so in reality, the move here was more of a win.
Yes, and the govt wants the immigrants in order to repopulate the state. Think of annual Fed subsidy money based on population. Politics is the root of it all.
@@jgringo5516 the only way we're going to get out of this is with more people. Immigrants or otherwise. And immigrants are why Chicago didn't turn into Detroit, at least not yet.
@@economicdevelopmentplannin8715 not overhired so much as over-promised. Edgar, Pate Philip, Daley, Ryan, Blagojevich etc made big contract promises on pensions and then didn't fund the contributions or stop the double-dipping. Finally in 2011, after all the above were retired or in jail, they repealed everything and went back to a sensible level. But everyone who was a state or city employee during 1997 to 2010 is contracted on that higher pension, and until they die off, that in a nutshell is why we're where we are.
Iowan here - I can attest that part of the reason we've gotten _so_ many transplants from Chicagoland specifically is the ease of getting onto state benefits here vs Illinois. It sucks.
2:20, It's the people's fault! The People in Illinois have forgotten they have the power! Think most people across the U.S. have forgotten. Or their afraid to stand up. But let them take our firearms so we can't defend ourselves. There is a second Amendment and it was made to protect the 1st Amendment!
@@Mr_Clean the commenter also doesn't understand what the 2nd Am. is for. IT'S NOT FOR DEFENSE. Only when it's used in it's proper capacity, as intended for revolution, it will only get worse.
I was born and raised in Chicago living there from 1972 to 2007 and south suburban Homewood from 2007 to 2014. Moved to Wisconsin in 2014 after life fell apart there as the state was beginning to fall apart especially in Crook County. It's unsustainable without a high income and even with good income it gets to the point of what's the point of living there? See also what Tiffany Henyard has done to Dolton the past few years - a culmination of past microcosms with cumulative corruptions and expenses. Staying in Illinois gets one soaked. I can only imagine how airtightly bad the financial suffocation has become.
Public Educators know how to game the system to ensure their own kids are in the Full Ride Scholarship programs. Honors Colleges at Public Universities. So they almost never pay for their own kids college . When most of the same Educators flee the state by early retirement age, paying insane property taxes isn't a bad deal.
I live in Illinois and once we get enough money together and a plan to leave were gone. Everything here is so expensive you can barely afford rent or groceries and owning a home isn’t even a relevant conversation for most people here..and we live in southern Illinois far from Chicago and it’s still like this. We can’t wait to be gone.
I was a Union Carpenter for 22 of my 37 years living in Illinois. I finally moved my whole family to Texas 16 months ago-I just couldn't take what the dems have done to this formerly beautiful state anymore. Pissker, his unconstitutional edicts, and illegal "laws" are to the point of being unbearable!!! We love it in Texas! Nice people and we feel free!!!
Enjoy burning in the sun as it gets hotter and hotter every year and constantly breaks new heat records while all your air conditioning fails. I’d move to the south too if it wasn’t for how hot it is and how much it continues to get hotter year after year
True, but remember when all the Lottery Money was going to make things better. And how about the White Sox Stadium that was going to keep that cash cow in Illinois. It's all a lie as the more money they have coming in the more they keep raising the taxes.
Legalization was SUPPOSED to be about personal freedom (which Americans don't really believe in for anyone but their own preferences) but the government want money and are convinced your body AND wallet belong to them.
Know of a retired suburban Chicago area HS Graphics Arts teacher making $142,623/year. She gets an automatic 3% increase per year by law. Knew of a HS music that retired in 2003 @ $175,000/yr. The education/public unions run Springfield. So much corruption and disappearing tax money in Illionois!
@marblox9300 from k12 I definitely use reading writing and math, daily. I use algebra, statistics, calculus daily in my work. But I didn't need 1000 classroom hours yearly for more than a decade to learn this stuff. 12000 classroom hours... Probably could have learned it in under 3000 hours...
@@economicdevelopmentplannin8715 Without ever stepping into grade school you would have learned that stuff. You were speaking and understanding English before kindergarden. I was an Assembler Programmer and only figured on a calculator - never used what I learned in public schools so nice try. LOL. Algebra and calculous - sound's like some bull shit - what exactly did you do for a job. Tell me.
@@lhead7226 the ban has successfully obstructed our rights for multiple years, meanwhile teenagers in chicago go full-auto lol. Mission accomplished by the governor
I will soon be on the list of IL residents who have left the state. The writing is on the wall, this state is in a death spiral, and they will continue to tax the ones who can't or won't leave to death.
So, I just moved away from Illinois. I lived in Lakeview in Chicago. My apartment was really expesnsive for what it was. Chicago taxes, speed cameras, and red light cameras are insane. The issue that really did it was this summer. The city was a mess. Traffic was worse that it had even been. There were too many events going on at once and it created chaos. Then, there is the crime.... In lakeview people were getting car jacked, shot, and robbed. Less than other parts of the city BUT people pay a premium to live there. And there is still those issues. There are so many other examples of why it was a mess it would take forever to type.
Left 15 years ago. So many problems but to name a few outrageous property taxes, crime, traffic, bureaucratic red tape, taxes on everything, etc. Chicago and IL are doomed and not coming back anytime soon. I was held up near East Bank Club.
@@brucehartman23exactly. Like this isn't even just a chicago issue. Its a policy and national issue of America being run into the dirt. This guys video is interesting but for people who live and work at major corps in the city.... none of these little suburb towns or cities are on our mind. I'd rather be taxed to hell living in a huge city like ny, chicago, places in California or anywhere along the coast -- but it's the funneling and miss-management of our tax money being wasted on things like migrants when we could be improving the city we all are technically supposed to be paying for. This is what leads to civil unrest because we dont want to move out of a city, so we won't, but the government continues to ruin our home and so everyone starts getting violent and fighting for change.
Ah yes, my Lakeview days were great. I checked out my old apartment there and the rent is INSANE and it looks the same. Sad to think I will never move back after visiting a few times over the last decade, given what has become of it.
I own my home here in West Virginia (I am a Michigan native) I have a homestead exemption on my 2 acres and 3 bed 2 bath home. Property tax- $150 a year. Thanks Chris. I enjoy all of you videos.
A former resident of Arora IL was paying $12,000 property tax, now in a southern state is paying $900 for a huge house on a 200 acre plot of land. We are moving to that state as well.
Absolutely brilliant! It is one thing to note bad stats and blighted areas. It is quite another to know the why behind it. This channel is second to none in that quality. How can you really fix something if you don't know what the problems are? Keep up the great work!!!
I am a native Illinoisan with roots in Illinois back to the days of UGG. (a really long time). Obvious by my screen name, I no longer reside there. I only visit once a year at x-mas time to see the remaining family I have there. When I left several years ago, the town I grew up in was in fair shape. Population 1300. Bedroom community to 2 central Illinois cities. Most services you could want. Today there is only 1 gas station, the local grocery closed, the large apartment/business complex downtown was torn down, and the cancer Dollar General made it's mark conveniently outside town limits as not to pay pesky taxes. The local businesses have been decimated to the local tap and the bowling alley and a couple odds and ends. The people work in the nearby cities. It is just another story of many towns in Central Illinois.
Northern IL is doing very good! New businesses are up everywhere. My hometown has an industrial park that was a ghost town for most of my life till recently. New businesses everywhere. My stocks are going great too! Cost of living sucks but is still wayyy better than NY or California. There is nothing down south because no one lives down south and so there is less money to move around.
In April, I'm finally getting the hell out of Illinois. I've lived in several states and been "stuck" in this one for 15 years and I'm done. The type of house I can get in AR compared to Illinois is crazy. I can get a 4 bedroom 3 bath newer built house for less than $200k. That's more space and nicer than what I have now for the same amount. The weather is nicer too so that's a plus.
I saw a sign in Illinois (my home and former state) persuading people to take up residence in Indiana and it said “are you Illinoied yet?” Was pretty spot on. Now a new resident of Michigan!
I didn't know how screwed up Illinois government was until I left the state. Didn't know about Illinois Policy and am glad to learn of them. That was a good interview. There's a group I've followed some -- Edgar County Watchdogs -- that does similar investigative reporting on a smaller scale. I like the people of Illinois and hope it gets turned around.
The only reason my husband and I stay in Chicagoland area is our elderly parents are still alive. We plan to retire in another state nearby but haven't decided which one yet. Taxes really started to skyrocket in the early 90's. It started out a couple hundred dollars and that was bad, but then they started jumping $3k. WTF! Insane! Thanks for the video Chris!
Same here Chris. Only thing keeping me in Illinois is family. I just wish the crazy governor would pull his head out of his fat a$$ but he's too worried national politics.
I'm so happy that about 5 years ago at the age of 20 I left Illinois and moved to Green Bay, Wisconsin and have been super happy ever since. Very affordable, relaxed, and not far from my family that still lives in Illinois.
In Madison county, there was a push to separate Cook county from the rest of the state effectively making two separate states. I don't know how much traction it got, it would be really nice and would solve a lot of the problems with Illinois overnight.
I left Illinois over 20 years ago now for the following reasons 1) Corruption 2) Property taxes 3) Toll roads 4) weather 5) traffic 6) South and West siders. The food was great though...miss the pizza and Italian beefs!
I was raised in Chicago and have family thru out the state. I moved to Mississippi 45 years ago. I have a 3 BR 1 1/2 bath ranch house with central AC/ heat and metal roof on an acre of land. My house is assessed at just over 70K. Shocking huh? I'm over 65 and i pay no property tax. Chicago and crooked city and state politicians have destroyed the state.
I live in deep southern Illinois, over six fast hours south of Chicago, and even that is not far enough away. I worked in Chicago, and have been all over the state, and I could not help but notice that in demographics and culture the state is strongly divided. Chicago is almost like some foreign country - and being born and raised abroad, I know what that means - in its differences from the rest of the state. But go south of I-64 and it is much like a different state from that north of it, and then south of Anna, and suddenly it’s if you are in northern Kentucky. When I worked in Chicago, people would laugh at my southern accent - I didn’t know I had one - and when I told them I was from southern Illinois, they’d ask if that was Danville or Peoria? We don’t need Chicago, nor do we want it, where they have more city employees who never show up and yet are paid than we have in a score or more of our county governments put together, and crime is so pervasive that it is accepted as the norm. Whatever the democrat machine in Chicago wants, the legislature votes for and then Pritzger signs into law, and no one south of Chicago has any say in it at all. So let them join Minnesota, or Canada, just so they leave us alone.
Amen brother! Tell it like it is! We have a lot on common. The over weight, over spending, over paid, over rated governor, is way in over his head. Democrat and Chicago, that says it all.
I’ve lived in the Chicago area and southern Illinois. Chicago is the modern world. The rest of the state is small town America (except in the urban areas like Champaign). You may prefer the boonies and that’s fine. But downstate is not the modern world. It’s small towns with depressed economies.
@@ChicagoJ351 key word lived so you moved wonder why because Chicago sucks and is a cesspool pool I will admit it used to rock but not any more and by the way modern world wtf are you smoking Chicago is so bad that Afghanistan has a lower kill count you think only big cities have amenities and modern stuff your nutz
I have started my forays into Indiana looking for a new home. I can save 140K on similar house prices and 7-10K in property taxes. I have to move if I truly want to retire
Shame on President Donald Trump for commuting the sentence of convicted Democrat Governor Rod Blageovich. The swamp of corruption includes Republicans too. Did you hear property taxes and insurance costs are going down in Florida under Republican Governor Ron DeSantis? You didn't? Well, that's because they aren't.
Missouri is just a half a percent cheaper to live in and has almost none of the services offered in Illinois. Also lower pay. Illinois has the highest pay in the Midwest folks.
Living in rural Illinois on a gravel/dirt road in a 680sq ft home our property taxes were almost $3,000 this year, our neighbor who lives in a sears farmhouse paid over $6,000 and the farmer next door seen his taxes on his farmland explode to over $10,000 for less than 100 acres. We're counting the day's till we can get out.
I have an old ass farm house (1880) and 2 acres of rough land 50 miles south of the city. They say it's worth 225,000 and raised my taxes again this year. I say they're out of their freaking mind. over taxed, denying our constitutional rights, This state sucks.
Another huge part is the Boomers retiring. Here in Chicago where I live its almost 100% city workers who are forced to live in the city because of residency law. The minute they can everyone leaves. Cops and Fireman can leave at 55 with their insurance and their pensions go off their ot pay and regular. So Naples Florida and Nashville get the benefit of all the Illinois pension $.
Been noticing a goodly amount of anti-"Boomer" posts recently, where that age group (most of them elderly) get blamed for this-or-that, but mostly for the failure of the Left to make any progress solving certain issues of the day, or when something goes wrong. Scapegoating the aged in that way comes across as akin to the most virulent form of bigotry. Aren't those people (elderly retirees) leaving because taxes eat up a too-high amount of their mostly fixed incomes? Did you listen to the video? They aren't moving to Naples, Florida, but to adjacent states: WI, MN, IA, MO, KY and Indiana. Millennials are already scoping out their retirement destinations, indexed in order of tax burden.
@@pbrdraft just don’t vote blue or we will kick you out of Indiana because the thing we hate most here is people who leave shit blue states just to come here and vote the same way without acknowledging the fact that the states better because of the opposite politics
What is this "residency law?" In Arizona, municipal workers don't have to live in the city where they work. Phoenix workers can live in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Mesa, Chandler, Glendale, Peoria, Gilbert, etc., not just Phoenix. Same with other cities. What does one do if one works in Chicago, and their spouse works in another city? Do they have to get divorced or live separately if they want to keep their jobs?
I've been in a group on Facebook called "escaping illinois" most people posting how they got out and where they moved to. A light at the end of the tunnel. We gotta get out.
Wow Its not easy to escape. Those who had a licence profession COULD NOT TRANSFER, no matter how many times I attempted payed the fees and somehow The dept did not send. So decades later. I chose freedom NEVER TO RENEW MY NURSING NUMBER . So saving little hoping by 10 years I can finally escape IL. So if you are planning to be going to NURSING school DO NOT USE IL ( Its a trap ) if you planning to leave the state of ILLINOIS
My wife and I moved from Chicago suburbs to southern Minnesota in 2019. Taxes are half, pay is significantly higher. My property taxes in Sleepy Hollow IL were 9k per year in 2012-2019. High schools were city-like and not great except for AP kids. We sent our kids to private school. As for the weather, Minnesota summers are very beautiful and mild. Winters are a few weeks longer and a little colder.
My girlfriend and I left Illinois just under 2 years ago and bought a home in Crown Point, Indiana. The property taxes that we pay on our place is under $2,000 annually. The same home in Illinois would be AT LEAST $7,000-$9,000. BUHHH BYE!!!!
Ya but you live in indiana lmfao. Lower wages zero worker rights, zero services. Your state cant even clear roads days after snow storms. Blizzard happens in chicago and by the next morning before work the roads are cleared. Indiana is trash and you get what you (dont) pay for
I had a 3200 sqft house on .25 acres and paid almost 12.K a year in taxes in Montgomery, IL. Sold that thing and moved out of the Soviet Union of Illinois! Amazing how the moment you go to a different state, how much further your money goes vs. illinois. PLUS, the gov of Missouri didn't take his toilets out of his mansion to evade taxes.
The problem is just Cook county. It’s a welfare state and when you have a high percentage of the population sucking off the teet that outnumbers the LEGAL population that’s working… well it doesn’t take a mathematician to figure out that equation. The other counties don’t have a problem with funding their own municipalities and pensions.
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Lol you didnt even touch on our straight up unconstitutional citizen disarmament laws being passed by fat cat pritzker and brandon johnson, even though gun crime is at an ALL TIME HIGH, they focus on disarming law abiding citizens.
ha chris the cost of living in west virginia is way way less than what it is in new york city. the same house in west virginia would cost 4 times as much as new york city the taxes on the house in new your city would be 5 times what they are in west virginia. You would be wealthier living in west virginia making 15.00 hour than you would ever be in new york city. making 30 dollars a hour. A lot of the yuppies living in those yuppie towns in boston chicago new york chicago spend 60% of what they make on rent a 23 year old woman bachelor degree working as a customer service rep in a corporate headquarters in say chicago make 52000 a year would spend 60% of her after tax income on rent in chicago a 1 bedroom apartment in yuppie town cost 2000 a month or 24000 a year.
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Paying more getting less should be the state motto.
The motto should be BOHICA. Bend over, here it comes again
Keep voting the Tax & Spend dimocrats where there is never enough , they have corruption down pat
"Welcome to Illinois" should be "Welcome to Massive Taxes"
this is why I am voting for Trump
@@PeaceToAll-sl1dbYes because more tax donations to the wealthy will help us and his tariffs will raise the prices.
You can always pull the toilets out of your house and declare it uninhabitable for cheaper property taxes.
Did jabba the fudd really do that? I heard he took toilets out to say he had less bathrooms, to pay less taxes.
And then run successfully for Governor.
@@recklessfable8292 Then shit on the public .
House ? You means Mansions ....plural
Gas Bag Pritzker was elected based on lower Property Taxes no? That worked out well.
Our grandson left Illinois for Tennessee a few years ago, and our daughter and son-in-law are currently building their new home in Tennessee also leaving Illinois and our son, my husband and I are planning to follow behind them. Illinois is hopelessly corrupt and fiscally irresponsible.
I’m 27 & all of my friends who left the state of Illinois now have their own home. All of my friends who still live in Illinois are still broke & stuck in their parents basement. Take that for what u will🤷🏽
Just make sure they vote red going forward. Illinois sucks because it is blue like cali and ny
You just have to be careful. Every state has its way of extracting money. For instance, Tennessee has a 4% state grocery tax plus the applicable local tax. For a dead bang average annual grocery bill for a family of four, that is an extra $461 annually compared to Illinois currently with Illinois one percent grocery tax and this will increase to a difference of $614 extra when Illinois eliminates state grocery tax in 2026.
There are more intangible elements such as access to freshwater. I guess what I’m saying is people should be very careful about choosing states simply based upon the most visible elements of state taxation and cost-of-living. Illinois is far more obvious in how it extracts money but most states get their money one way or the other.
@@jasonwilkins1969 Less of a chance of getting exterminated by Tiffany Henyard's D-squads in Tennessee
Tennessee: the 19th-best deal from D.C.
Illinois: the 46th-best deal from D.C.
Wow, must be nice.😡
As an Illinoisan, at the age of 23. I have an over arching belief that our State government just hates its citizens. As a young Illinoisan, it seams impossible to escape the corrupt suction of a State seemingly desperately trying to hold its own citizens back from prospering. For years, I have been trying to save my meager paycheck, just for the sole purpose of leaving. But, that is impossible thanks to this State of decay. One day I will finally escape, and flip the bird to the State that I have had the inconvenience of being born in.
Til I retired I would flip off at the state line. The looks I got from others weirdly was not of confusion but of understanding.
I’m 39 and was born Springfield, a lot changed in the early mid 90s
Stop voting for Democrats.
youre probably white
@@whydyougoanddothat4269 I'm white, that's not the problem. They are uneducated.
When the Governor thinks Chicago is the ONLY city in Illinois it's a HUGE problem.
Right! What about Naperville?!
This country at the worst Governor situation I've ever seen!!!
He's out next.
Stop your whining!🙄🙄 Last I checked, Central Illinois is getting almost two dollars from Springfield for every dollar that it pays (and Southern Illinois is getting almost THREE for one from Springfield).
Meanwhile, for generation after generation, Chicago is the dumping ground for housing projects, Section 8, homeless shelters, SROs, cheap houses, and cheap apartments.
Are you from a rural area, or a N.I.M.B.Y. suburb?
@@JdeC1994 delusional ahh comment
Illinois is pricing itself out of existence
So true now their building 2 new prisons to soon fill with more victims of the war on drugs to collect more money
More room for "migrants"
So isn't Florida
@JaredMerlin Yes, agree. Crazy expensive insurance, high prices (coming down though). My personal experience with Chicago was property tax costing me $5,500 in 2012 rising to judt under $12,000 in 2019 (the year I sold).
Schools take 60% of the Property Tax money ...... Pensions are Bankrupting Illinois
As an Illinoisan, this was a pretty good analysis on what's going on. I'm a student in an Iowa college currently and I don't anticipate returning to Illinois when I'm done.
I feel bad for the people who want to live at “home” but can’t afford to, or they can’t make themselves because the current climate disgusts them so much.
Illinoisan here and I like some of the changes in my area for infrastructure, but I'd definitely leave if I didn't have family here.
Smart choice.
And with your liberal indoctrination you'll vote for the same democratic policies that you've left in illinois.
When I got out of the Army, my wife picked IL because her parents and sister's family are here. I live near the Mississippi... SO close to making it into Iowa!
Illinois has a depressing vibe over it.... I never wanted to live in Illinois again.... The greed is sickening.....
Sorry to say but the state is shit, Yes, but that "Depressive Vibe" exists primarily in Chicago city-proper or the nasty ass south suburbs. Much of Illinois is beautiful and not invested with big city-types. Have you ever visited such a place such as Starved Rock State Park or Matthiessen State Park? Unfortunately most of us grew up in a very nasty part of northwest Indiana or northeast Illinois, simply because that is where all of the "Good Jobs" (manufacturing, steel, or oil) existed 60+ years ago.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists no, I've never heard of those areas.
@@manifestationofgod1379 If you're from the Chicago Area they are not far. That would be near Utica, IL.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists I'll check them out. Thank you!
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Starved Rock is ghetto and full of graffiti when I went there last a few years ago. I wont go again. I'll Check out Savannah IL state parks next time. Its further away from the city and prolly less hooligans there.
I live in Indiana. An hour away from Chicago. My home value is 210k. I paid $444 dollars for the year on my property tax
Well one reason I know of is illinois gun laws. I have a family member who has the exact same firearms as me and he is now a felon if he's caught because of the gun law. The leaders refuse to go after criminals who post them shooting full auto illegal pistols on RUclips with their faces and where they live.. Yet absolutely nothing gets done. I have sent 20 videos to the police and authorities yet the same gangsters keep posting videos of themselves shooting into the air towards other houses or into "abandoned" houses. Those are the guns killing people, not my family members rifle that sits in his safe 364 days out of the year. But they would arrest him in a second goodness forbid if he wanted to bring his firearms to go shooting here in Wisconsin. If he gets pulled over while driving his guns up here he gets 10 YEARS in prison. Illinois is completely insane. They go after the good guys while the bad guys kill society. There is absolutely zero common sense in govt in Illinois. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know... But you guys have let it get that bad. You've let the total corruption run unchecked. Please don't come here though and bring that insane mindset and ideology with you. If you are fleeing your state.. don't ruin the state you are going to.
Humm...
As a free man you should own way more!
Take this as permission to buy another AR .....suppressed...
Course ...if we actually were free we'd have the selector switch....
I left Illinois shortly after the 2020 election. Between Herr Pritzker and Biden, I read the writing on the wall. I was paying almost $12,000 in taxes on a townhouse with no land. Now I have a home nestled on a 10-acre wooded lot in Northern Wisconsin and pay $4800. No regrets.
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Are the property taxes in Wisconsin as bad as some say? I know its better than IL property taxes, but I've heard certain people complain about WI property taxes. Not sure if their property taxes aren't as bad, as some allege?
@BoratWanksta There could be a couple of reasons for that; they live close to the Illinois border, or, more likely, they have NO idea what high taxes really are. ;-) My property taxes were cut by at least HALF and I am currently paying $2.67 for gas. My friends in Illinois are paying $3.89.
thats a lot of money too. way too high for rural land.
@moverabc True. Housing market is insane. However, property further away from town with no improvements is much cheaper. I have natural gas heating...most areas outside of city limits don't.
They didn't spare us during covid.
My electric bill, water, home insurance and vehicle registration went up 50%
Vehicle registration yep i was looking at mine it went up at least like 20% just in the past year.
Don't forget Bluto Pritzker told us to stay in our houses at all costs while his family traveled to FL and WI....funny, since those states were much more less restrictive than Illinois at the time.
Yep. Car reg went up $50 in 2020. Its now $151
I left Illinois and will never go back. Taxes and being a “downstate” resident just isn’t worth it.
Love the people in Illinois especially Western and Down State. Had to leave depressing Carlyle after 2 years. Love Tennessee never going back.
I am one of those people who left Illinois not that long ago. It's amazing how much larger my paycheck is when you don't have to pay Illinois income taxes.
@@NWSCS are you kidding? It’s 5%. What, your check is $20 more?
Maybe it’s because Illinois doesn’t want you to feel welcomed, they want you to have the privilege of living here by paying them. I realized how bad it got when I bought a video game and was hit with the IL online tax, and when I started selling guitars and Illinois feels like they should get a good chunk of that sale price. If you are buying online you are paying the same sales tax as everyone else, plus a ridiculous IL sales tax. They legitimately tax every single thing you do here and where does that money go? Certainty not to anyone living here.
Crime, corruption and taxes... Welcome to Illinois 😂
@@petebrown3715 it’s hellinois not illinois
@johnmeyer5496 🤣
Lmao a democrat paradise. The only thing we hate more than Illinois in Indiana is the Illinois plates that flood our streets because they refuse to move but come here for everything else because it’s cheaper. They bring their crime with them too. 🤮🤢
@@petebrown3715 That's pronounced Hellinois, and it lives up to name. Our county borders Kentucky, also close to Mo., and Tenn. People hardly ever buy gas in IL because it's usually 60 to 70 cents higher a gallon.Thats just one of many things. Illinois is not growing it's stagnated, high taxes, fees on everything, over the top on rules and regulations, license fees, and workman's comp is about the highest in the country. Why would businesses want to deal with a stacked deck? The thing to do is for the counties that want to pull away from Crook, be allowed to do so, and let Crook govern itself.
Illinois is in a doom loop. So many will leave in the future because of incompetence.
I pray they go south or east. I really hope they decide they don't like Missouri. We suck. They should stay out. We don't need any more people here.
And if they vote the same the rest of us surrounding states don’t want them. Stay in your shit hole if you are gonna vote blue till you are dead or broke
I know a retired IL teacher collecting 120k pension. I’m all for modest pensions, but that just a slap in the face of taxpayers
The retired school librarian up the street on my makes that
My CPA tells me that one of his clients, a retired Chicago Public School Principal, is getting 270K pension and his retired librarian wife is getting 90K. Outrageous.
They’ll retire, collect that pension and then go work at a private school and make another $100k.
My sister-in-law in IL will get that or more once she retires as a teacher. My brother is high-up in tech, and she earns MORE than him now and isn't even in administration! I don't begrudge her, but how is that sustainable for the state?
There are over 120,000 people in the six figure retirement club
The problem in IL is self inflicted by the citizens, they consistently vote Democrat almost as though they are asking for the mistreatment.
I really don’t get it bro. So many of our neighbors will “vote blue not matter who” and then will act surprised when it gets worse and worse every year.
The only area in Illinois consistently voting Democrat is Chicago and cook county.
@@roaringthunder8069you’d be suprised ! Cook county has turned more red in the past election!
@@roaringthunder8069 yeah and chicago has enough democrat morons to ruin it for the rest of the state.
He didn’t say that “they” go after poor people specifically. He said that all people’s property taxes are high in Illinois, but only richer places fight them by hiring attorneys to do property taxes re-assessments
Oh that's fine then
@@EliyahuNeiman lol, imagine it's like saying 'just get more money so you can skirt the law'
I moved back to Illinois 4 years ago since my wife's Mother had dementia. She is now deceased. I plan on moving hopefully next year. My property taxes have gone up more in 4 years here than my 25 years in Wisconsin. Everything costs more here. The most corrupt politicians in the country.
Heeey now come on man we got public sector union pensions to pay for 🤣
My old home town in IL has a commissioner who is also the Mayor of another town. This Super Mayor is in big trouble now, but has already done a lot of damage.
Double the corruption and you have California
democrats ... Bad for America
Kudos to you for suffering to help a family member. Now get out!
I'm sorry I came back to Illinois after my military service. I love the State but hate the high cost of living and the liberal politics.
I thank you whole heartedly for your service.
Thank you for your service, get out of that cesspool!
I should have never come back either. Had the chance to restart anywhere. I'm ready to leave. Got a small fire dept pension at 10 years. Then on to the next place. Live and learn.
use the IL veteran’s grant and get out, that’s my plan
Being retired military in Illinois is good, especially if you have 70% or greater military disability. You pay 0 property tax
I left Illinois in 1981 after growing up there. Springfield was already out of control and people were worried about the future. Now, 44 years later, the idiots are still voting for the same people or “family” of the same people. Nothing has changed. The officials are all rich now while the state continues to fall apart.
I still got family and friends in St Clair County and Madison County they still look the same way over and over and over.
I was born and raised in Illinois Cahokia and Belleville
Now I'm in Missouri hundreds of miles away from St Louis
Vote the same
So you know that Chicago dumped it's drug addicts downstate during that time then
"Voted" for this. 😂
Before you noted people's voting habits, I had suspect that was the problem. Many voters suffer from political learning disability.
Park Forest is one of the worst offenders with property taxes. I just did a random search on Zillow, and a house listed for $160k has annual taxes of $8000. Another one listed at $225k has annual taxes of $11,200.
What a disaster of a state.
@@DaveScottADV yall just on here spreading lies. My house is 450k and my taxes are 8.5k.
Out in the woods of Louisiana, I pay $130 per year on 15 acres and a home valued at about $200k
@@oneperson5760 a home and 15 acres. And how long would it take for a fire truck to show up? Is there even a hydrant?
@@bucktwentyseven 333 Neola St, Park Forest - Listed at 225k - taxes are $11,200.
203 Sauk Trl, Park Forest - Listed at $160k, taxes are $8k
Who's lying?
@@DaveScottADV well that’s not all of Illinois like that. Idk what the situation is with those houses. Those town have no commerce and the houses were probably rentals with no exemptions. My house is in a nice town and is worth double and I pay less in taxes.
Fixing the Illinois economy would require such a huge change, we need to see mass reforms in the Illinois govn't, nobody wants to do the obvious (limited spend on the problematic pensions in the state) -- because its political suicide. J.B. should honestly do it in his last term to finally fix the budget deficit. Arguably JB has done great for the Illinois economy--taking Illinois from a "BBB-" to an 'A-' with a stable outlook. If a Law could be passed which limited the states ability to payout pensions, like a Sovreign Pension Fund, (which is adjusted at special elections), the state's budget to payout pensions could be only $6 billion per year, saving $4 billion directly in property taxes per year for the taxpayer. No more $$$ to this political machine--its controlled by the people at elections then.
JB pritzker has never worked a day in his life. Him and these other corrupt democrats will run this state into the ground until the end of time.
It's not only Illinois. The entire country is in decline. The public school system has handicapped the generation born after 1972.
Illinois more-so than most other decline states for the reasons I described.
Go be Hoosier! Check the crime out in indianapolis metro area!
There’s no way you’re paying the amount in damn property taxes in Illinois that you are in ANY state that borders it.
Illinois, New York, California , Conneticut , Every democrat run city
Only Democrat controlled areas
My taxes in Will County are ridiculous. I am stuck here due to family obligations and career, but holy hell is Illinois the biggest rip off in the US.
SAme here, stuck here in Du Page county because of my husbands family obligations.. we pay over 12,000 in property taxes a year and 8,000 of it goes to school board wasting money on law suits instead of teaching kids!!!! a once beautiful place!!!
Get out just not worth it .
@@juliagooliagiulia723 I'm 65 and in HINDSIGHT - Public Schools 1-8 and 9-12 were COMPLETELY useless. The only thing I ever used from those years was Drivers Ed.
And Will County is super-cheap! Wow how times have changed. I grew up south side of Chicago, our taxes have always been high.
I disagree with property taxes being the main issue. The problem is Marxist policies and a general disregard for the Constitution. In Illinois the “govment” seems to think rights are privileges that can be ignored when the “govment” feels like it. The only state I am aware of where I need their permission (FOID) to exercise my Constitutional right. Slavery was not ended in the 1800’s they just changed it to part time slavery in the form of fees, taxes and assessments.
Property taxes are a joke anywhere. I dont even have children going to school in this state. To hell with public education. Theyre indoc centers.
Stopped reading after “Marxist policies”. Word salad.
Downstate sick of being controlled by five counties
Uh well property taxes are an issue in the last 4 years property values went down prices went up and property taxes are up a lot mine almost doubled as well as home insurance taxes in Illinois are the 2and highest only New Jersey is higher
@@Mr_CleanLike the red states who take more from the feds then they put in the northern part of Illinois pays for the slackers down south.
This video made me depressed because it reminded me that I'm stuck here until I can afford to leave 😢 hate this crap state
Look for jobs outside of the state and just leave. Tomorrow may never come
You could get a loan or something to move. Just look for jobs out of state
Lol you can leave with a little bit of money if you leave you can afford more instantaneously
And isn’t the Illinois governor working on increasing taxes as we speak? Unfortunately I live here.
Thanks Chris Harden for this good and informative video. I’d lived in the Chicago suburbs all of my life, until now. Earlier this year I moved from Chicagoland to the Indianapolis suburbs, and I’m not looking back. It’s sad, but I felt like was being punished for living in Illinois. The taxes, the corruption, the regulation, the crime, etc. My only regret is that I couldn’t leave Illinois sooner.
Interesting. Indy metro area has been one of the main spots for Illinoisans to relocate too.
Yes indeed! I grew up in Chicagoland but now live in a suburb of Indy. You are spot on.
Your retirement gets taxed in Indiana and you have to come back to Illinois for descent medical. No MMAI if needed as well
Indiana is just the Mississippi of the Midwest.!
@@ChrisHarden yeah and we have noticed is that they come back with if 5 to 10 years! Medical care for one! Then some we have found are SOI workers who took a pay cut to live there and once again came back and wanted their jobs and medical insurance. Indiana being a Republican state will not except all of Medicaid and Medicare because a lot of the policies like Obamacare I brought about by the Democrats so they play politics and short, their residents of medical care and please don’t forget that they also tax Social Security for peoples retirement the state of Illinois does not do that.
I live in Illinois- I hate Illinois!!!!!
Same!
@breezybmetal8646 At this point I think ANY neighboring state would be an improvement. Peace, quiet and affordability mean a lot.
Surrounding states will welcome you if you don’t vote like most Illinois residents do. If you gonna keep voting the same way, please stay in the mess you made .
Get your exit plan ready.
Sure Vlad, sure.
We left IL over two years ago for a neighboring state and very happy we left. The property taxes and the unfunded future pension costs was a top reason.
Unfunded pensions in Illinois are not exclusive to Illinois. This happens all over the country. All levels of government, federal,state and local need to move in the direction of private enterprise which only pay to the worker while he/she works. If people don’t save to supplement their social security with a 401 or just an old fashioned retirement investment program or both they would be SOL.
Now just don’t vote blue or we will kick you out because us surrounding states hate when Illinois trash spills over into us and then they all vote the same way and try to ruin our states. Blue states suck
Yeah. Like the gambling was supposed to help schools but they paid state pensions with it
Did you come over here to Missouri?
My family and I left Illinois almost 12 years ago for Florida. The taxes we're killing us. Our property taxes we're $12K a YEAR!
I left Illinois for Tennessee 4 years ago...and will never go back. Cook and DuPage counties are among the most corrupt in the country, and taxes are criminally high.
Do you like TN
@austinperezgk1 love it..better weather, beautiful scenery, lower fuel prices, No state income tax.
The south suburbs of Cook County were reassessed and got slammed with massive property tax increases in 2024. The Cook County Assessor, Cook County Treasurer, a representative of the Board of Review, and the Cook County Clerk all appeared on local news at various times over the course of a couple days. They all pointed fingers at each other, and also advised residents to complain to the local taxing agencies (such as Mosquito Abatement Districts-how the hell do you do that?) as well as state representatives in Springfield "to change the law." Zero accountability. Their disdain and indifference towards homeowners was palpable. The exodus from Illinois will only accelerate.
I was paying $10K per year property tax in Tinley Park before I moved in 2019. Couldn't afford to retire in that state.
Very well done, Chris! I left ILLinois 8 years ago not because of weather! Everything you point out in this excellent video is why!
I just moved my business from Illinois to Indiana and saved 47 k in tax
Any opportunities??? 👀👀👀
How far into indiana from Illinois?
@@TacoCat-eo3sh Probably NWI like everyone else fleeing Chicago
@@TacoCat-eo3shguessing to the Indianapolis area, the Indy metro has grown over 40% since 2000, fastest growing metro area in the midwest
Indiana is red
Lifetime resident and left Illinois in 2022. Life in Missouri is so much better. Everything feels more hopeful, more full of life, more energetic. It's weird being in a state that doesn't smell its own death approaching.
I lived in Illinois my whole life, but I’m going to school in Wisconsin. I’m leaving cause I’m sick of paying into the welfare state and seeing none of that money going back to our communities. The roads are horrible. Crime is pretty bad. Our communities and districts are horribly gerrymandered and gentrified. On my drive to work there’s always someone fented out or begging for money. I can say definitively that most of those moving out of state are middle class. We get taxed to shit and have our money sent to worthless state aid and SNAP programs that have done very little to actually help lift people out of poverty. I’ve seen it my entire life yet nothing has changed. The state is just ghetto af
The ghetto Theme is Spreading...Seattle's..
It’s not a welfare state. Snap is federal. You don’t pay for snap with your taxes in Illinois. I would have less of a problem paying higher taxes if it were feeding people, but instead it’s going to retirements.. it’s going towards upper class, professional people and schools. Did you even watch the video? I love how you rambled off without any understanding of how anything actually works. Wisconsin is more of a welfare state than Illinois .Get mad at the rich who are robbing the working class.. and the poor. Don’t fall for the lie that poor people are taking it all away from you. That’s what the rich wants. They are actively trying to divide us while they rob us blind. How can you tell someone’s a hillbilly? They rant about things like snap. They rant about welfare and immigrants while ignoring the real problems.. billionaires and the military industrial complex.
Two words, public unions.
I stayed in Lake County for a couple of months while interning across the border in Wisconsin. Even with just those two months, I was glad to get out of there. Gas was up to $1.20 cheaper just crossing the state line at some points.
I never thought I'd miss living in Ohio, but two months in Illinois did that.
There is nothing fancy about the house I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago. The property taxes are $12,700.
Our tiny former house in Hinsdale is now worth $300K. It's a small shoebox. The interior walls are thin and made of plywood. That's nuts.
That's absurd!
I live in downstate Illinois. I have a 3 bed 1 bath home on a small lot, luckily, my last property tax bill was about $1,100. And my home is worth 107K. I paid 51K for it back in 2021. It’s a nice home and not a dump. And the neighborhood is older but it looks nice. Chicago definitely pays for a lot of services for downstate. I’ve also came here from Mississippi about four years ago. Only things that are high here are property taxes and gas. But everything else here is relatively affordable. Insurance rates are cheaper. And I also make double then what I did when I was living in Mississippi so in reality, the move here was more of a win.
I'd rather sleep in a van
Southeast McLean county here. 700 ft² two bedroom, 1500 ft² detached garage, $608/yr 💪
Someone has to pay for all the immigrants.
Illinois has become a complete dump.
I hate even driving through there when i go see relatives in Indiana.
It's the pensions. $142 billion. Over hired school and police over the last 30 years
Yes, and the govt wants the immigrants in order to repopulate the state. Think of annual Fed subsidy money based on population. Politics is the root of it all.
Illegals.
@@jgringo5516 the only way we're going to get out of this is with more people. Immigrants or otherwise. And immigrants are why Chicago didn't turn into Detroit, at least not yet.
@@economicdevelopmentplannin8715 not overhired so much as over-promised. Edgar, Pate Philip, Daley, Ryan, Blagojevich etc made big contract promises on pensions and then didn't fund the contributions or stop the double-dipping. Finally in 2011, after all the above were retired or in jail, they repealed everything and went back to a sensible level. But everyone who was a state or city employee during 1997 to 2010 is contracted on that higher pension, and until they die off, that in a nutshell is why we're where we are.
Taxes on something you already own is insanity.
How do you propose to pay for police, streets, and schools?
Iowan here - I can attest that part of the reason we've gotten _so_ many transplants from Chicagoland specifically is the ease of getting onto state benefits here vs Illinois. It sucks.
2:20, It's the people's fault! The People in Illinois have forgotten they have the power!
Think most people across the U.S. have forgotten. Or their afraid to stand up. But let them take our firearms so we can't defend ourselves.
There is a second Amendment and it was made to protect the 1st Amendment!
Google image search a map of how Illinois votes. You'll notice of the 102 counties about 90% are red. Yet we're controlled by the Northeast corner
@@Mr_Clean the commenter also doesn't understand what the 2nd Am. is for. IT'S NOT FOR DEFENSE. Only when it's used in it's proper capacity, as intended for revolution, it will only get worse.
They haven't forgotten they have power. Chicago gets exactly what it voted for. And I have ZERO sympathy.
@@Mr_Cleanif you had a brain you would know that most people live in Chicagoland
I was born and raised in Chicago living there from 1972 to 2007 and south suburban Homewood from 2007 to 2014. Moved to Wisconsin in 2014 after life fell apart there as the state was beginning to fall apart especially in Crook County. It's unsustainable without a high income and even with good income it gets to the point of what's the point of living there? See also what Tiffany Henyard has done to Dolton the past few years - a culmination of past microcosms with cumulative corruptions and expenses. Staying in Illinois gets one soaked. I can only imagine how airtightly bad the financial suffocation has become.
Stop voting drmocrsp
@@noliftraceway8772I don't vote Democrat - haven't in many years!
@davidwicklin9943 same
The unionized municipal workers are quite happy with high taxes because of their gold plated overgenerous pensiond.
Public Educators know how to game the system to ensure their own kids are in the Full Ride Scholarship programs. Honors Colleges at Public Universities.
So they almost never pay for their own kids college .
When most of the same Educators flee the state by early retirement age, paying insane property taxes isn't a bad deal.
I live in Illinois and once we get enough money together and a plan to leave were gone. Everything here is so expensive you can barely afford rent or groceries and owning a home isn’t even a relevant conversation for most people here..and we live in southern Illinois far from Chicago and it’s still like this. We can’t wait to be gone.
I was a Union Carpenter for 22 of my 37 years living in Illinois. I finally moved my whole family to Texas 16 months ago-I just couldn't take what the dems have done to this formerly beautiful state anymore. Pissker, his unconstitutional edicts, and illegal "laws" are to the point of being unbearable!!! We love it in Texas! Nice people and we feel free!!!
Are you now retired ? And where did you live in Illinois ?
Enjoy burning in the sun as it gets hotter and hotter every year and constantly breaks new heat records while all your air conditioning fails. I’d move to the south too if it wasn’t for how hot it is and how much it continues to get hotter year after year
We just want to know where all the DRUG MONEY is? The state of Illinois started selling marijuana claiming it would be a GOOD thing 🤷♂️
Where do you think in prezel prizer pocket he doesn’t even live in Illinois he lives in Florida now
True, but remember when all the Lottery Money was going to make things better. And how about the White Sox Stadium that was going to keep that cash cow in Illinois. It's all a lie as the more money they have coming in the more they keep raising the taxes.
Legalization was SUPPOSED to be about personal freedom (which Americans don't really believe in for anyone but their own preferences) but the government want money and are convinced your body AND wallet belong to them.
Yeah, and the lotteries were going to fund the schools, too, remember??😂😂😂😂😂
Know of a retired suburban Chicago area HS Graphics Arts teacher making $142,623/year. She gets an automatic 3% increase per year by law. Knew of a HS music that retired in 2003 @ $175,000/yr. The education/public unions run Springfield. So much corruption and disappearing tax money in Illionois!
Required to work 180 days x 6 hours daily. 1000 hours facing students basically. 170k is $170 hourly. Obscene. 3x above normal
I'm 65 and in HINDSIGHT - Public Schools 1-8 and 9-12 were COMPLETELY useless. The only thing I ever used from those years was Drivers Ed.
@marblox9300 from k12 I definitely use reading writing and math, daily. I use algebra, statistics, calculus daily in my work. But I didn't need 1000 classroom hours yearly for more than a decade to learn this stuff. 12000 classroom hours... Probably could have learned it in under 3000 hours...
I’m not mad about those teachers I am mad at all the money lining the politicians pockets.
@@economicdevelopmentplannin8715 Without ever stepping into grade school you would have learned that stuff. You were speaking and understanding English before kindergarden. I was an Assembler Programmer and only figured on a calculator - never used what I learned in public schools so nice try. LOL. Algebra and calculous - sound's like some bull shit - what exactly did you do for a job. Tell me.
Property taxes were $12k a year, 1,100 Sq ft in McHenry. The Community Safety Act (banning semi auto firearms) was the last straw for me.
That is an illegal ban. See Amendment #2.
@@anonimous2451 It doesn't stop them from trying.
@@lhead7226 the ban has successfully obstructed our rights for multiple years, meanwhile teenagers in chicago go full-auto lol. Mission accomplished by the governor
I will soon be on the list of IL residents who have left the state.
The writing is on the wall, this state is in a death spiral, and they will continue to tax the ones who can't or won't leave to death.
I've been wanting to buy a house somewhere in or near Chicago and had no idea about the taxes so thanks for the info.
So, I just moved away from Illinois. I lived in Lakeview in Chicago. My apartment was really expesnsive for what it was. Chicago taxes, speed cameras, and red light cameras are insane.
The issue that really did it was this summer. The city was a mess. Traffic was worse that it had even been. There were too many events going on at once and it created chaos.
Then, there is the crime.... In lakeview people were getting car jacked, shot, and robbed. Less than other parts of the city BUT people pay a premium to live there. And there is still those issues.
There are so many other examples of why it was a mess it would take forever to type.
Left 15 years ago. So many problems but to name a few outrageous property taxes, crime, traffic, bureaucratic red tape, taxes on everything, etc. Chicago and IL are doomed and not coming back anytime soon. I was held up near East Bank Club.
one question did you still vote democrat?
Quit your complaining. You get paid enough. Although your not worth it😅
@@brucehartman23exactly. Like this isn't even just a chicago issue. Its a policy and national issue of America being run into the dirt. This guys video is interesting but for people who live and work at major corps in the city.... none of these little suburb towns or cities are on our mind. I'd rather be taxed to hell living in a huge city like ny, chicago, places in California or anywhere along the coast -- but it's the funneling and miss-management of our tax money being wasted on things like migrants when we could be improving the city we all are technically supposed to be paying for. This is what leads to civil unrest because we dont want to move out of a city, so we won't, but the government continues to ruin our home and so everyone starts getting violent and fighting for change.
Ah yes, my Lakeview days were great. I checked out my old apartment there and the rent is INSANE and it looks the same. Sad to think I will never move back after visiting a few times over the last decade, given what has become of it.
Ohio & Indiana not playing this bs. Vote
chiraq and crook county elections have been rigged for as far back as i can remember
Ohio Property taxes are as high as Illinois. Especially in the Cities and Suburbs. Suburbs of Dayton are now as high as Suburbs of Cleveland.
I own my home here in West Virginia (I am a Michigan native) I have a homestead exemption on my 2 acres and 3 bed 2 bath home. Property tax- $150 a year. Thanks Chris. I enjoy all of you videos.
No one is laughing at you now
I paid $750 a year in Arizona and I think that is too much. They’ve been getting it done with that amount so why pay any more
A former resident of Arora IL was paying $12,000 property tax, now in a southern state is paying $900 for a huge house on a 200 acre plot of land. We are moving to that state as well.
Absolutely brilliant! It is one thing to note bad stats and blighted areas. It is quite another to know the why behind it. This channel is second to none in that quality. How can you really fix something if you don't know what the problems are? Keep up the great work!!!
Will do, thanks!
I am a native Illinoisan with roots in Illinois back to the days of UGG. (a really long time). Obvious by my screen name, I no longer reside there. I only visit once a year at x-mas time to see the remaining family I have there. When I left several years ago, the town I grew up in was in fair shape. Population 1300. Bedroom community to 2 central Illinois cities. Most services you could want. Today there is only 1 gas station, the local grocery closed, the large apartment/business complex downtown was torn down, and the cancer Dollar General made it's mark conveniently outside town limits as not to pay pesky taxes. The local businesses have been decimated to the local tap and the bowling alley and a couple odds and ends. The people work in the nearby cities. It is just another story of many towns in Central Illinois.
I'm surprised that they torn down the apartment they could've bused in a bunch immigrants -and made a killing on gov subsides housing them?
Somewhere between peoria and Champaign?
Northern IL is doing very good! New businesses are up everywhere. My hometown has an industrial park that was a ghost town for most of my life till recently. New businesses everywhere. My stocks are going great too! Cost of living sucks but is still wayyy better than NY or California. There is nothing down south because no one lives down south and so there is less money to move around.
I live here and you nailed it. Can't wait to exit. Terrible run state and thieving politicians..
In April, I'm finally getting the hell out of Illinois. I've lived in several states and been "stuck" in this one for 15 years and I'm done. The type of house I can get in AR compared to Illinois is crazy. I can get a 4 bedroom 3 bath newer built house for less than $200k. That's more space and nicer than what I have now for the same amount. The weather is nicer too so that's a plus.
I saw a sign in Illinois (my home and former state) persuading people to take up residence in Indiana and it said “are you Illinoied yet?” Was pretty spot on. Now a new resident of Michigan!
I didn't know how screwed up Illinois government was until I left the state. Didn't know about Illinois Policy and am glad to learn of them. That was a good interview. There's a group I've followed some -- Edgar County Watchdogs -- that does similar investigative reporting on a smaller scale. I like the people of Illinois and hope it gets turned around.
I moved out of that state 4 years ago and haven't looked back.and when I go back to see family I try not to spend money in that state
The only reason my husband and I stay in Chicagoland area is our elderly parents are still alive. We plan to retire in another state nearby but haven't decided which one yet. Taxes really started to skyrocket in the early 90's. It started out a couple hundred dollars and that was bad, but then they started jumping $3k. WTF! Insane! Thanks for the video Chris!
Can’t blame you for staying! That’s what’s keeping a lot of ppl there id imagine
Same here Chris. Only thing keeping me in Illinois is family. I just wish the crazy governor would pull his head out of his fat a$$ but he's too worried national politics.
We moved to to Tennessee from Tinley Park. That should tell you something.
@@waltercasas3124 my cousin lives in TP. I'm betting you are loving Tennessee much better.
I'm so happy that about 5 years ago at the age of 20 I left Illinois and moved to Green Bay, Wisconsin and have been super happy ever since. Very affordable, relaxed, and not far from my family that still lives in Illinois.
In Madison county, there was a push to separate Cook county from the rest of the state effectively making two separate states. I don't know how much traction it got, it would be really nice and would solve a lot of the problems with Illinois overnight.
I left Illinois over 20 years ago now for the following reasons 1) Corruption 2) Property taxes 3) Toll roads 4) weather 5) traffic 6) South and West siders.
The food was great though...miss the pizza and Italian beefs!
what is wrong with the south and west siders?
Weather isn’t so cold like 20 years ago.
And Illegal immigrants.
You ever get around Springfield for the Horseshoe sandwich? Perhaps the greatest thing ever from this State.
@@harjimbaugh4234hes reffering to the criminals from chicago that infest the other cities in illinois
I was raised in Chicago and have family thru out the state. I moved to Mississippi 45 years ago. I have a 3 BR 1 1/2 bath ranch house with central AC/ heat and metal roof on an acre of land. My house is assessed at just over 70K. Shocking huh? I'm over 65 and i pay no property tax. Chicago and crooked city and state politicians have destroyed the state.
I live in deep southern Illinois, over six fast hours south of Chicago, and even that is not far enough away. I worked in Chicago, and have been all over the state, and I could not help but notice that in demographics and culture the state is strongly divided. Chicago is almost like some foreign country - and being born and raised abroad, I know what that means - in its differences from the rest of the state. But go south of I-64 and it is much like a different state from that north of it, and then south of Anna, and suddenly it’s if you are in northern Kentucky. When I worked in Chicago, people would laugh at my southern accent - I didn’t know I had one - and when I told them I was from southern Illinois, they’d ask if that was Danville or Peoria? We don’t need Chicago, nor do we want it, where they have more city employees who never show up and yet are paid than we have in a score or more of our county governments put together, and crime is so pervasive that it is accepted as the norm. Whatever the democrat machine in Chicago wants, the legislature votes for and then Pritzger signs into law, and no one south of Chicago has any say in it at all. So let them join Minnesota, or Canada, just so they leave us alone.
I agree I live in in what is considered southern Illinois but I am near st Louis and taxes suck so does chico-land
Amen brother! Tell it like it is! We have a lot on common. The over weight, over spending, over paid, over rated governor, is way in over his head. Democrat and Chicago, that says it all.
It's not gonna change. Chicago is a cesspool. Move out of Illinois if you value sanity.
I’ve lived in the Chicago area and southern Illinois. Chicago is the modern world. The rest of the state is small town America (except in the urban areas like Champaign).
You may prefer the boonies and that’s fine. But downstate is not the modern world. It’s small towns with depressed economies.
@@ChicagoJ351 key word lived so you moved wonder why because Chicago sucks and is a cesspool pool I will admit it used to rock but not any more and by the way modern world wtf are you smoking Chicago is so bad that Afghanistan has a lower kill count you think only big cities have amenities and modern stuff your nutz
As someone who has lived in Missouri and Illinois the cost of living when you account for taxes insurance etc. it’s damn near a wash.
Small business owners & home owners should get together & bring class action lawsuits.
I have started my forays into Indiana looking for a new home. I can save 140K on similar house prices and 7-10K in property taxes. I have to move if I truly want to retire
Just don't move to IN1(if you are from IN you know what I am talking about) it is as bad as IL
Big cities are tax parasites.
lmao, red areas are the only ones who take more than the give. State side and federally Vlad
Somewhat akin to a black hole
Big cities subsidize rural America
I know several people who left the state when we lost a big chunk of our second amendment rights under PICA
Which is illegal under the constitution, PICA is illegal under federal law.
My family is from Illinois (great grandparents to me). Its so depressing there. We left when I was fourteen. Praise God.
The only reason I stayed in Illinois because a family after they're gone I go to!
Shame on the governor of illinois letting the state go to 💩
He's darn proud of it BTW.
Shame on President Donald Trump for commuting the sentence of convicted Democrat Governor Rod Blageovich. The swamp of corruption includes Republicans too. Did you hear property taxes and insurance costs are going down in Florida under Republican Governor Ron DeSantis? You didn't? Well, that's because they aren't.
Lol the state is actually in much better shape than when he arrived. The states credit rating was garbage because they couldn't pay bills.
@@cabron247 yea he showed up and now the state is on the verge of homelessness
He the other day said the state of Illinois is great. I can’t stand him. I have never voted for him.
Illinois is trash. Been here 41 years and it hasn't changed a bit. A few more years and myself and family are off to Missouri
Same. I’m 39 and soon will be gone to Tennessee! Good luck and happy life to you…
Missouri is just a half a percent cheaper to live in and has almost none of the services offered in Illinois. Also lower pay. Illinois has the highest pay in the Midwest folks.
cause youre broke...thats why
Live in Missouri, been to Illinois many times over the decades. I dont mind visiting Illinois but would never live there.
Missouri is a sh*thole
We fled 3 years ago after being there for 10+ years. Illinois is a dumpster 🔥. Those who can leave should leave.
Living in rural Illinois on a gravel/dirt road in a 680sq ft home our property taxes were almost $3,000 this year, our neighbor who lives in a sears farmhouse paid over $6,000 and the farmer next door seen his taxes on his farmland explode to over $10,000 for less than 100 acres. We're counting the day's till we can get out.
I have an old ass farm house (1880) and 2 acres of rough land 50 miles south of the city. They say it's worth 225,000 and raised my taxes again this year. I say they're out of their freaking mind. over taxed, denying our constitutional rights, This state sucks.
I own a home in South Cook County. My property taxes are why I'm selling my home and moving to Northwest Indiana
Another huge part is the Boomers retiring. Here in Chicago where I live its almost 100% city workers who are forced to live in the city because of residency law. The minute they can everyone leaves. Cops and Fireman can leave at 55 with their insurance and their pensions go off their ot pay and regular. So Naples Florida and Nashville get the benefit of all the Illinois pension $.
I retired at 51. Still cheaper for me to move to Indiana and pay for own insurance
Been noticing a goodly amount of anti-"Boomer" posts recently, where that age group (most of them elderly) get blamed for this-or-that, but mostly for the failure of the Left to make any progress solving certain issues of the day, or when something goes wrong. Scapegoating the aged in that way comes across as akin to the most virulent form of bigotry. Aren't those people (elderly retirees) leaving because taxes eat up a too-high amount of their mostly fixed incomes? Did you listen to the video? They aren't moving to Naples, Florida, but to adjacent states: WI, MN, IA, MO, KY and Indiana. Millennials are already scoping out their retirement destinations, indexed in order of tax burden.
@@pbrdraft just don’t vote blue or we will kick you out of Indiana because the thing we hate most here is people who leave shit blue states just to come here and vote the same way without acknowledging the fact that the states better because of the opposite politics
What is this "residency law?" In Arizona, municipal workers don't have to live in the city where they work. Phoenix workers can live in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Mesa, Chandler, Glendale, Peoria, Gilbert, etc., not just Phoenix. Same with other cities.
What does one do if one works in Chicago, and their spouse works in another city? Do they have to get divorced or live separately if they want to keep their jobs?
@ the spouse of a city worker can work anywhere they want. But they have to live in the city.
when you were showing highland footage at 6:48, I knew the area as I have been through it so many times
Grew up in small town Central Illinois left at 18 never regretted it
I've been in a group on Facebook called "escaping illinois" most people posting how they got out and where they moved to. A light at the end of the tunnel. We gotta get out.
No we need to stop voting democrap and throw putsger in jail
Wow Its not easy to escape. Those who had a licence profession COULD NOT TRANSFER, no matter how many times I attempted payed the fees and somehow The dept did not send. So decades later. I chose freedom NEVER TO RENEW MY NURSING NUMBER . So saving little hoping by 10 years I can finally escape IL. So if you are planning to be going to NURSING school DO NOT USE IL ( Its a trap ) if you planning to leave the state of ILLINOIS
@prizm63 we need to stop voting in people like prickster or what ever fat boys name is.
@@noliftraceway8772it’s JB
YEP AS SOON AS I CAN GET MY AFFAIRS IN ORDER I AM OUT OF THIS STATE AND I'M NOT LOOKING BACK THIS IS SO BAD IT'S A CRIME WHAT THEY DO TO THE CITIZENS
I'm from Ottawa illinois I'm planning on selling my house and moving to Tennessee
It's fuking horrible
There's even tax on food ...
I live in Ottawa. Relocated here about 4 years ago, and love it here! Cute and clean town
@underground9260 you own a home here?
@@dithmart17 sure do, I bought it back in 2021.
My wife and I moved from Chicago suburbs to southern Minnesota in 2019. Taxes are half, pay is significantly higher. My property taxes in Sleepy Hollow IL were 9k per year in 2012-2019. High schools were city-like and not great except for AP kids. We sent our kids to private school. As for the weather, Minnesota summers are very beautiful and mild. Winters are a few weeks longer and a little colder.
The first 30 seconds were EXTREMELY relatable! ❤
In a few years I believe that the
whole state of Illinois wiil become one big FORD HEIGHTS!!!😮😮😮
Ford Heights! 🙆
My girlfriend and I left Illinois just under 2 years ago and bought a home in Crown Point, Indiana. The property taxes that we pay on our place is under $2,000 annually. The same home in Illinois would be AT LEAST $7,000-$9,000. BUHHH BYE!!!!
Right. It would be a no brainer if you ask me!
They're going to put Haitians in there to make up for it. . Hahaha there goes your social security. .😊
Was this before or after the KKK incident in Crown Point years ago?
Ya but you live in indiana lmfao. Lower wages zero worker rights, zero services. Your state cant even clear roads days after snow storms. Blizzard happens in chicago and by the next morning before work the roads are cleared. Indiana is trash and you get what you (dont) pay for
@@mybrainhurts646should be mybraindamage.
You can drive 2 hours and buy gas cigarettes and still come out hundreds of dollars cheaper than buying in Illinois absolutely ridiculous.
I had a 3200 sqft house on .25 acres and paid almost 12.K a year in taxes in Montgomery, IL. Sold that thing and moved out of the Soviet Union of Illinois! Amazing how the moment you go to a different state, how much further your money goes vs. illinois.
PLUS, the gov of Missouri didn't take his toilets out of his mansion to evade taxes.
The problem is just Cook county. It’s a welfare state and when you have a high percentage of the population sucking off the teet that outnumbers the LEGAL population that’s working… well it doesn’t take a mathematician to figure out that equation. The other counties don’t have a problem with funding their own municipalities and pensions.
My dad called it Crook county!
@ddivar8149 that is just what everyone calls it 😂
Teachers and Police. WAAAY overpaid.