What if Sora Died in KH1? (A Kingdom Hearts Alternate History)
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2021
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Music used (in order):
"Magical Mystery" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"End of the World" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
"Captain Hook's Pirate Ship" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
"The 13th Floor" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
"Riku" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"The Silent Forest" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010)
"Piccolo Resto" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
"Aqua" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010)
"Night in the Dark Dream" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2011)
"Mickey Mouse Club March" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"Aqua (Dark Dive)" from Kingdom Hearts III (2019)
"The Nightmare" from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (2012)
"Laughter and Merriment" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"The Nightmare"
"Kairi" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
"Link to All" from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (2012)
"Innocent Times" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (2010) Игры
I'm just gonna get out in front of this because I forgot to add an annotation when editing: I know the spell is cast on the necklace itself, but y'know, she's wearing the necklace at all times so it may as well have been cast on her. If I turn into a disembodied heart, I think whatever magical spells I had on the clothes I was wearing at the time should transfer over to me. That is all :)
I honestly didnt notice
Just curious, but would the scene where Peter Pan says ‘just a little bit of pixie dust, there now you can fly’ not be included on the timeline?
@@simonacannizzo5141 maybe he lied?
@@liamurness302 I don’t think so, dust and happy thoughts are part of the Peter Pan universe as necessary for flight. I know SquareEnix respects the rules of the stories included in the game. Therefore that scene in the game needs to be cut out in order for Sora to die as Ticktock’s meal.
@@simonacannizzo5141 yeah who knows, let pat have his fun minipulating the kh universe
Can't wait for the riveting sequel of "What if Roxas fell off the clock tower and broke his neck"
Wouldn't nothing happen to him because he was in a simulation at the time? Or are you talking in 358 days?
"now who will I have ice-cream with?"
Riku:"We have a problem."
Ansem the wise:"What?"
Riku:"Roxas tripped and died. That means he cannot transfer himself back to Sora anymore."
Ansem the wise:"....."
Riku:"What do we do now?"
Axel: bad news and good news xemnas what do you want to hear first xemnas: bad news axel: roxas is dead xemnas: and the good news? Axel: sora can never wake up xemnas well guess that's the bright side
yes lol
I’m just imagining like..
Xemnas strolling up to Aqua nobody and realizing who’s nobody she is gives her the name Quaax just to troll the shit outta her
Pronounced Quaack-key 😂
I've always wondered how Kingdom Hearts 1 would go if Donald had let Riku on the Gummi ship
STOP GIVING HIM IDEAS!!!
Yes
Thinking about this, if Donald wasn't such a dick to Riku and did let him o the Gummi Ship, his turn to the darkness most likely would be delayed until Hollow Bastion if we want the plot structure to be somewhat untouched (though like, half of Monstro would be pointless and the Parasite Cage would be spared). If we want to go all the way with Riku getting accepted, then:
-his ties to the darkness would be very minor, only being a visit from cloaked Ansem at that point
-Riku's Keyblade would be Sora's Kingdom Key because of lacking the "Anti-Keyblade" darkness eviction notice (oh, and Sora would be Keyblade-less, I guess)
-his entire story route in COM would be less focused on getting over the darkness (as he'd most likely fail to manifest Soul Eater) and he'd propably just focus on finding Sora
-skipping towards the events of 358/2 days, because of not having power over the darkness to access his Ansem transformation, he'd fail to defeat Roxas and take him to sim-Twilight Town. That would cause Sora's awakening to be prompted a near failure until DiZ does his "Anti-Nobody" comments at Roxas at best, and Sora would just be forever asleep in his pod as Roxas hangs around Twilight Town, living out his own life at worst
-assuming Sora would awaken in time for KH2, there'd be no emotional scene with Sora finding out that Riku looks like Ansem
-Repliku will not exist due to Vexen not finding Riku's ties to the darkness note-worthy
I think that's it? Do let me know if there's more to this or I made multiple mistkes writing this back-to-back.
Now let's be fair, this definitely wouldn't be Sora's first time being devoured by aquatic life. That crocodile definitely has a world in its belly.
Comes out lvl 99
@@DavidRamirez-se2yt-.- *Lv100.
Unless you’re suggesting he comes out just sort of Max level, which would be funny.
@@michaelkindt3288 that's an honest mistake since you can be lvl 100 in like two games out of like fifty now
It'd be too small
i mean "canonically" he did just get eaten right before this world.
by a whale that flys though space.
Okay, the "Roxas no longer exists and is replaced by Quaax!" bit made me break out into giggles for an incredibly long period of time.
Do Donald and Goofy at least avenge Sora by killing that crocodile and turning it into a handbag for Daisy?
Regular Pat's Crocodile Timeline: PETA hates it!!
BRUH AHAHHAHAHAHA
Going full god of war there
Guess the power of friendship doesn't affect Crocodiles
Crocodiles don't care about friendship. They just want to eat.
Crocodiles have a single function - bite. Because of this, there is nothing that impacts the logic or morality surrounding them.
well by sephiroth's logic, the crocodile would become a keyblade wielder after showing its greater power and would then go about sealing the keyholes in the realm of light
Go jvhi. junk mmmm
that’d be hilarious.
That’s way better 😂
Peter Pan: “Fly Sora! Just believe, and you can do it!”
Sora: “... Okay I believe you!” *Jumps to his death.*
Peter Pan: “HA, FORGOT THE PIXIE DUST LOOSER!”
Donald and Goofy kill Peter Pan for sure.
"Ok i believe you"
Peter just doomed his world unknowingly
I know it is a joke but how can you know you forgot the pixie dust, w/out someone telling you?
@@simonacannizzo5141 knowing after the "accident"
Can't wait to see the Namine Redesign where she has purple hair
Just purple or do you think she'd have another color in it too? Either way, Namine with purple hair sounds super cool.
Namine with a tall lanky body
@@jaydeejay4166 Namine with a six pack. lol
I like these Namine head-cannons.🙂
It's a fact that Namine looks a little like Sora; his body was used to create Namine (Secret Ansem Report 12, KH2). Their faces look identical, but Namine's body is pretty different from Sora. She's got little toothpick fingers while Sora has massive low-polygon early PS2 square fingers. So because of that, I've always had the assumption that Namine looked 100% like Sora until he actually got his body back when Kairi hugged his heartless. When that happened, Namine's body morphed to resemble more like Kairi's since she was born from her heart. In a way, she looks like a combination of both characters, like she's her daughter.
I say this because if Aqua was in Sora's place then for the brief period, Namine (whose name means "wave" which is an aquatic thing fun fact) would look like the tall blueberry lady, but then morph down to Kairi's size and bodytype while retaining Aqua's face. And she'd probably look like if Aqua and Kairi somehow had a daughter, I guess.
By the way: That first fact I mentioned technically means Namine is canonically a trans character. Some people might like that.
Aqua’s duck nobody really came out of left field, I think she needed more spotlight
more like left pond
4:16 I think it'd be hilarious if Beast frees the remaining Dalmatians by ripping the chests holding them in half, just to see if Belle was hidden in one of them, because he's desperate, he's been through a lot, he just warped through Gummi Space from a world that presumably doesn't exist anymore using pure angst, I think he'd be _just_ mentally exhausted enough to deceive himself into thinking Belle might be in one of these chests that, realistically, would be too small to contain her.
Riku and Aqua fighting at the Crumbling Islands unused room is my new alternative-universe headcannon
Regular Pat:
Also Pat: hey what if Sora got vore-a'd
Ah yes, when Sora went inside the Crocodile to retrieve Hook's clock and then became best friends with a crocodile.
This is definitely the most likely outcome.
Also: Captain Hook’s hand as a boss!
“Great another theory about a turn no one has ever thought about in their entire life.”
Sees Regular Pat
“Dis gonna be good.”
_Never smile at a crocodile,_
_no, you can't get friendly with a crocodile._
_Don't be taken in by his welcome grin,_
_he's imagining how well you'd fit within his skin._
I thought you were going to say Sora would be inside the crocodile and have to find his way out like in Monstro, but no Sora just straight up dies. I love how you took it really seriously and really tried to come up with what would happen if Sora died! I think Riku would be like, "Oh man this went too far!" and be really depressed because his two closest friends are dead/in a comma, and his grief would make it easier for Ansem to manipulate him.
I like that you chose the crocodile to be the thing that kills Sora because there are lots of parts where Sora could have died, but the crocodile is the funniest! I hope you keep going with the Crocodile Timeline! We have to know how/if Sora comes back from the Final World! And Quaax!
I love how all the rest of March Caprice (which Caprice apparently means sudden change of mind???) have serious sounding titles for their videos, but then yours (in the list at least) is literally just "yo what if this random as fuck crocodile ate him"
Like seriously, you must have deliberately chosen the most anti-climatic moment to kill off Sora possible, hahah.
Noruma: * flips over desk* OH MY GOD ITS ALL GONE TO SHIIIIIIT!
That crocodile OP af. Hook wouldn’t even dare fight it.
As long as they have a medium of soras and the memory of him he can come back so he technically cant die... easily.
You're assuming sora wouldnt light its ass up with a fire spell if he had to fight it. He beat far more difficult beings than that croc
The image of Quaax as a duck got me thinking, how does a Nobody of an animal person work? Scar becomes a Heartless in KH2 but keeps his original form, the only change is the fact he can use magic now. Wouldn't that mean he also creates a Nobody? If so, then would the Nobody be a lion, anthro lion, or human version of Scar? I imagine it would be hard to find an Organization cloak for a 4 legged animal, also it would look ridiculous.
A little fix at the end, Aqua would get them kicked out her house before turning it back to Land of Departure. It's an anti-Darkness mechanism that keeps Ventus safe, so she wouldn't revert it back while some squatters are inside.
I just like to imagine the organization members being transported to random rooms in the Land of Departure and being really confused.
I didn’t think about that. This doesn’t assume she would know that the organization is in there tho, but it isn’t too hard to imagine a scenario where she figures it out.
@@tobyjack1238One second rest in Atlantica, other get randomly moved to toilet.
The better timeline.
So good in fact, we NEED a part 2.
I don't care how long it takes, just do it.
I too am curious how the rest of the story would go with these changes.
Imagine all the organization's members inside the castle oblivion preparing for Sora to come, and then Aqua shows up and restores The Land of Departure. This scene would be comedy gold
Imagine Aqua defeating everyone at once in the process of transforming from Castle Oblivion to Land of Departure, lol
Speedrun strats
@@jacksonwww5 The fact Aqua is more in line with Sora in KH3 in terms of strength is just funny as it makes basically every Organization member seem super weak by comparison. They're not dealing with a newby Keyblade user nor one who just lost their powers/memories, they're fighting an endgame Keyblade master who'd steamroll them all.
@@caldw615 unless for some godforsaken reason leaving the realm of darkness leaves you metroided. But that’s stupid and it would be lame if he did that.
@@supreme_king_obama1158And level 1 Aqua would probably be still more dangerous, especially after getting her levels back in Disney worlds.
I honestly can’t wait to see how far down the KH iceberg this channel will go.
Before the video: this gonna be ridiculous
After the video:....I gotta hear the rest of this timeline
I like how you keep referring to the mouse as "Michael" 🤣🤣
I like how your scenario stayed true to Jiminy being ride or die for Sora. When Sora dies, Jiminy dies.
Interesting. I guess the fact that this is pre-HB would mean maleficent is successful and org13 would only have 12 members.
How quickly you forget our friend in the brown robe :)
@@RegularPat
*looks at KH cast*
...Could you narrow that down a bit?
@@MrJohnboy3434 there aren’t that many people who have brown coats
I can’t wait to play the new spin-off kingdom hearts game where we get to control Quaax for the entire time. They were my favorite character from 2.
@@MrJohnboy3434 the xehanort heart?
Not gonna lie, I totally wanna see this turned into a fanfic LOL
Gods I need a sequel to this!
Alternatively, if Kairi did die when Sora was killed, Ansem would have to go look for the new Heart that carries Kairi's light, and he and Maleficent would have to do a "Whoa, time out!" on the Heartless from destroying the worlds indiscriminately since they have no idea where to look. (Maybe. How did they figure out who the Princesses were? Ansem the Wise somehow figured it out on his own, but we never learned how that worked...) And then Maleficent immolated Captain Hook for killing the one person they needed alive.
And some aspect of Xehanort would be going, "Aw, nuts. There goes my plan to get ahold of the Dandelion kid for some reason. Now his heart is dead and I still can't find the body!
Now, what would happen if Scar's random roar didn't stop the hyenas from eating Sora, Donald and Goofy in Pride Lands?
To answer your question:
Ansem the Wise was studying Hearts and their potential for Darkness in hopes of using that knowledge to keep Radiant Garden's future bright, so he would've noticed if anyone he was studying or had extended contact with had none.
"Dreams hold our memories. Sleep holds our dreams. And Darkness-it holds our sleep." -Ansem SoD in DDD.
Maleficent has power over sleep, a subset of Darkness. She's been shown to be able to influence one's inner Darkness such as when she manipulated Terra to "steal Aurora's Heart" and all those times she tempered Riku's Darkness in KH1. Those two are atypical for having exceptional levels of Darkness which grants Maleficent greater potential for influence but it still stands to reason that through this ability she should have no issue sensing if a "nearby" Heart contains no Darkness at all.
Considering we see Elsa and Anna be "The Next 7 lights" in KH3, I assume that they'd be next in line after Kairi and Ansem and co have to go to Arendelle and grab one of them.
@@Powerman293 Well, yeah, but they would still have to figure out who the new Princess was and where.
@@Powerman293 Excluding Kairi for the sake of this scenario the New Seven Hearts we know of in the order Sora encountered them are Rapunzel, Elsa, and Anna. Kairi's Light could potentially go to any of those 3, any of the 3 that are New Hearts that haven't been revealed yet, or even an entirely different 7th person who never became a New Heart in the actual continuity because Kairi still remains a Princess of Heart.
I suppose it's also possible that it could go to none of the people who gained the Heart of a Princess after KH1 (or who would've if the Light had moved on from Kairi at the end like the others) because of how early in the story Kairi's Light had to be passed on in this hypothetical. Neverland was pretty late in the game to be sure, but any difference in timing might potentially have an influence on who the Light passes to.
Frankly "Quaax" had me loling. Too funny a Nobody name.
Very interesting thought experiment. I wonder what you would do with, say, "What if Sora chose not to have his memories fixed after Chain of Memories?"
You gotta continue this diverged timeline story, I wanna see how it plays out all the way to 3.
Factually correct.
"King Michael" is the biggest takeaway here
i can’t believe this is 22 minutes long... best 22 minutes every
I would have never expected such a fun and also legitimately cool theory starting from a weird "what if" situation like this one... And I was very wrong, I should have known that it was gonna be so great, because Pat was behind it!
Another amazing video, really. Funny as always and very interesting at the same time, you went the extra mile for this one! Oh, and happy March Caprice!
And now I want to play the series in this universe or read stories of what this universe might be like.
I absolutely love 18:55-19:30, quaax and the part with kairi and riku-- and I love the idea of kairi learning from aqua and becoming a keyblade master. I just love seeing those two together in general and I wish I could see them traveling the worlds in place of sora.
Wouldn't roxas still exist though? He would just be created when sora gets vored rather than getting self-died. Would roxas still have the kingdom key?
damn i got so exited and when i clicked on it i just see that big " premiere in 37 h"
ill be ready and have snacks ready for when its finaly time for this badboy to come out
Everyone knows the canon outcome is that KH3 Sora uses the power of waking to swoop in and catch his past self
3:18 The fact that there is more than one phantom is terrifying
"aqua turns into a wizard heartless" and then as kairi tries to hug her she gets electrocuted and dies the end XD
so can we get a continuation for this year's anniversary of the series? fingers crossed everyone
I'm digging the interpretation where her heart stays in the crocodile, as I assume she would be actively possessing it rather than just chilling inside it.
Let's talk about the Kairidile AU.
One scene that i can allready imagine is the krocodile jumping onto the boat and start chasing cpn hook. Which causes him to shit himself
This is legit one of the funniest videos I ever watched
your a really good writer
days continuation: axel has no roxas and xion to make him ditch saïx so he and saïx continue with their organization betrayal plan and get hearts again and destroy the rest of the organization. or something. voila more speedrun strats lol
I imagine the key would find someone else? Since Sora was the second option after Riku there must he a third option right?
Oh shit if Sora dies he’s gonna take Kairi’s heart with him! And Ventus too. Roxas as well? Xion...
More then just Sora dies I guess.
Keyblade master goofy
Roxas goes into him in kh2
Worse than that. Roxas wouldn't have just died, he would never have existed
@@bloodmoon0205 he wasn't supposed to exist in the first place, so it works out lol
isn’t this just known as “The Good Ending”?
You're a great storyteller :D
In an alternate universe...
"What if Sora didn't get eaten by a crocodile in KH1???"
"What are the immediate effects?"
*Jimminy dies too.*
SWEET Je$u$, thank you L0rd! No more stressful, neon-yellow, "NEW' journal icons after every single second for the rest of the series!
"You see Aqua is slightly more aggressive now cos she has Kairis heart inside her and Kairi didn't take anyone's shit in KH1"
I HOWLED laughing
Pretty fantastic vid
YES continue crocodile timeline pls 🐊🐊🐊🐊
Awsome video man 👍. Also an idea,
What if Xemnas and Ansem (Seeker of Darkness) swapped places?. Example, Xemnas is in KH1 and Ansem is in KH2 and leader of Organization XIII.
Such an interesting concept and thought experiment, you’re really knocking it out of the park with every video
One thing I like about you is that you don’t outright ignore the Disney stuff like so many others do.
I would actually love to see more videos like this.
Per union cross, he'd either be transformed into a dream eater, or reincarnated.
I thoroughly enjoyed that what if scenario. Quaax made me chuckle. I hope you make more of these!
My hype was through the roof for this video when I saw the thumbnail a couple days ago, and you still exceeded all my expectations. This needs to become a series! Love your content, dude, it’s exactly the kind of in-depth appreciation of past games I’ve always desired for KH. Keep it up.
This was really fun to watch. Please do more of the alternative history content!
We need a continuation of this soon, this storyline honestly has potential
Wouldn’t Ventus’ heart go back to his unconscious body in the Castle of Illusion or whatever it was called, and making him easier to find and complete the X-blade
Oblivion
Omg such a great video that I haven't seen yet!
This is so fun, great work dude!
This was a totally clever video! Nicely done!
This was an unexpected treat, and I loved every second of it ❤
This was not how I expected to learn that Castle Oblivion is the Land of Departure.
It's kind of weird to think that Captain Hook is probably the Disney Villain that was the closest to killing Sora.
THIS is why Archer is so afraid of crocodiles! If they could eat Sora like he was nothing, they could certainly eat everyone else!
I loved this!!! Keep this up! I never liked sora to begin with since I was 9 back then. Great alternate timeline.
i am coming back to this video for the third time because deadass ur voice is just... very calming to listen to. like yes dude tell me more abt sora getting eaten by the crocodile
you never cease to surprise me
Please continue the “crocodile timeline”, it seems so interesting and I’d love to see AKDG speedrun the series
This was very interesting I hope you continue this as a series.
THIS is the content we need. Thank you Regular Pat! 💖🥳
That was highly entertaining and needs a part 2 lol
I just realized, Aqua also speedruns KH2's final stretch by killing most of the Organization in the Castle Oblivion transformation, crushing them all like that scene in Akira, lmao.
Scratch that, I guess Axel is the only extra death, as the others weren't in the Castle at that time. My bad.
PLEASE do more of this!
Why is this being recommended??? It hasn't even started yet
I genuinely loved this and would love to see what happens with the rest of this timeline ❤
Please keep going! I love this timeline.
oh my god this is such a cool concept i need to know what happens next. i also wonder what would've happened if roxas beat riku at the end of days/tried to defeat xemnas on his own very often
I could watch Pat talk about ANYTHING involving KH1 and 2.
First time you see Winnie the Pooh, he was DEFINITELY hypothesizing about death.
This video is great I hope you continue the crocodile timeline someday it is really interesting.
13:27 “But accidentally bequeathed her a Keyblade”
I legit had to do a double take because I never realized THAT’S how Kairi can use one, I always assumed it was because of her time in Sora’s heart
Okay first of all this another fantastic video Pat! It was certainly a great video to chow down and sink my teeth into. I really hope this isn't the end for this brand of video because it was an absolute joy from start to fin.
However a small (and I do mean small) nitpick I have is that at 17:26 you missed a surprisingly perfect fit for Aqua's Heartless in the form of the Aquatank. I have several reasons why this is both a more entertaining and more fitting take of this scenario:
The name connection is just perfect (at least in English not sure about elsewhere)
The symbolism of a great blue juggernaut carrying her band of *three* misfits around while being the true terror of the group is just right there.
the fact the devs would have to make a funny walk cycle for it (or have it float around like a Jet Balloon)
Just to name a few of the positives. But take this all in good stride, I know this theory is all in good fun. But after seeing my favorite Heartless being what I thought was being thrown under the bus, I thought it would be nice to throw my hat in the ring. I just hope you get a good think and maybe a chuckle from this.
-Sincerely, An Aquatank Aficionado
Happy Caprice. I was thinking it would just be a meme video, but it a nice think about what could happen. Very nice video indeed.
11:26 Gute Nacht (Good night)? Nice to hear some German.
Also called: I had a fever dream, here's what happened.
the work put in to this must have been unreal
There’s been enemies capable of swallowing Sora whole before, the jester and ghost dream eaters come to mind. I feel like if the crocodile swallowed Sora he could easily fight his way out of the crocodile’s belly. It’s bit more cramped in the crocodile’s belly compared to something like Monstro but it’s a Disney game. Cartoony stuff is going to happen.
I have similarly had thought experiments about different realities in which he is replaced with someone else entirely and to my knowledge it would flip the games so far on their head that it goes into heavy speculation territory shortly after or during castle oblivion.
You know, this is actually really cool. I'd love to hear a part 2.
I haven’t even seen the video yet and I’m loving the idea
Patrick wtf am I looking at here