Argentina 2014 - The Trochita is back
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2014
- A video report of a tour on the "Trochita" (the Old Patagonian Express), a 400 km narrow-gauge line (75 cm) between Esquel and Ingeniero Jaboacci in the Argentine Patagonia. Five different steam locomotives are shown; they were built around 1922 by Baldwin and Henschel. All are 2-8-2 oil burners. They are shown on parts of the line that are not normally used nowadays. Still pictures of the same trip are here: www.ona.vu/trochita
Maintain your rails Argentina. Don’t allow them to be destroyed. No matter what happens, you can still move products and feed people. Hello from the USA.
Love from India to MARADONA and Argentena.
Beautiful place.
💙💪
Brilliant video! I love those Baldwin locos!
The landscape is similar to Socorro, New Mexico, USA, and the train is equally magnificent! Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful videography.
Yeah, but in winter months, it's more like Siberia. Really, really cold and windy as hell.
La Trochita deja en calzones al Cumbres and Toltec de Colorado EUA... Cuidemoslo hermanos Argentinos! Es un Tesoro HISTORICO que no tiene precio
Fantastic imaging! Steam can always be fixed, no electronics , just easily understood mechanical principals.
Thanks for posting. Beautifully restored trains and the scenery is big and inspiring .
These engines are just too sweet. Such a testament to their sound engineering that they are still running.
The best view from minute 10:55 to minute 12.05 A beautiful sunset. Those contrasts in color are dreamy!
Thank you for your nice comment. Actually it was sunrise, but it does not matter. The light was really beautiful.
Really nice video.
Wow, if the video didn't say it was in Argentina I would have thought this train was in Nevada! I will have to see it someday, very beautiful countryside.
Argentina has a wide range of climates and almost every landscape you can imagine, from deserts to tropical rainforests, woods, plains, mountains, rivers, thousands of miles of Antlantic Ocean, from extreme hot in the North to extreme cold in the South. It's very much like the US in the complexity and variety of climate and geography.
Parabéns sou mais um adimirador destas realidades que marcam vidas e tempos ,sou camioneiro e já estive em várias regiões de nossa vizinha Argentina país Pátria maravilhosa , parabéns : sou de Ourinhos São Paulo
El sonido de esa máquina en el medio de la nada te transporta a otro tiempo, hermosa la Trochita y mí sur querido.. gracias por compartir el video.. saludos!
Me imagino.
Selbst nach Jahren frag ich mich immer noch, wie er diese -aufnahmen hinbekommt.
Einfach nur G............ , so was von perfekt gemacht, unglaublich
Hace 30 años atras hice ese viaje, y lo recuerdo como si hubiera sido ayer. Gracias por subir el video.
Regresse a Patagonia en el 2019 y grabe otra video. En invierno, con tanto viento... :ruclips.net/video/er3zE5SP6uc/видео.html
@@KochersbergTV Gracias amigo
Excellent Video! Thanks so much for posting. Would love to see it in person.
Excelente video y, sobre todo, con sonido original. GRACIAS!!!
Amazing rail work...Big like from Romania...Thumbs UP!!!!
This train seems narrow gauge operated train.This train recalled me the old good days when I was student of primary and high school. Steam engine operated on narrow gauge rails running between Mari Indus and Bannu of KPK of Pakistan.The voice of coal operated, engine smoke and the engine whistle attracted the people.our home station Serai Naurng was water filling station,for which two water pools were made in which children enjoy swimming. Engr.Nabi Bakhsh Pakistan
It's an abnormally sized narrow 750mm gauge
I love Argentinian food. Had some delicious Argentinian steak in Bangsar Baru Kl Malaysia back in 2007.
Hace una semana disfrute de la trochita en El Maiten . realmente no sabia que todos los días de Lunes a Viernes a las 15.00 hs hacen un hermoso paseo y los que hicimos el viaje hace ya mucho tiempo descubrimos un paisaje increiblemente bello ya que por esta zona en el viaje original de Jacobacci - Esquel se pasaba por la noche .
Muy bella la paisaje en esta región de Argentina ,me encánta ,y el video quedó muy lindo ,increíble ,soy de Brasil,y acá tanbién aun existem algunas de estas,que acá lo llamamos Maria Fumaça ,pero en trechos no muy largos,alguns puntos turísticos .
Saludo a nuestros hermanos de Argentina 🇦🇷
Desde Minas Gerais,Brasil 🇧🇷
Just posted the still pictures of the same trip on www.ona.vu/Trochita
Impressive views and excellent film quality. Thanks for sharing this.
Beautiful ! Thanks for sharing.
Mi abuelo era maquinista en una locomotora de esas vapor tambien.....alla en la via estrecha del norte de Espana ....en el Ferrocarril Cantabrico.....algunas veces me llevo en viajes.....de Cabezon de la Sal a Santander.....y me dejaba echar algunas briquetas de carbon al horno....murio hace mucho ....pero cuando veo estos videos lo veo como si fuera ayer....
yes - - guacamole
Magnifique reportage ferroviaire, sur " La TROCHITA ", méconnue en EUROPE. Merci à vous de nous faire partager de si beaux moments...
muy buena la filmacion SIN MUSICA TAL CUAL ES,MUCHOS RECUERDOS,AÑORANZAS DE MI JUVENTUD QUEDO EN ESOS FRIOS TALLERES DE EL MAITEN,HOY VEO QUE HAN MEJORADO,SIEMPRE ESTAS EN CORAZON TROCHITA,,,MI PRIMER TRABAJO GRACIAS POR TODO GRACIAS HUGO
fascinating
Me faltan palabras para agradecer quien puso este video en este medio. Gracias.
Great video and it brought back memories when I travelled the line about 15 years ago. Good to know the line is now in better condition than when I was there.
Dear Gareth. Thank you for your nice comment. Actually the line is not in good condition at all. I went back to the place in 2019 and made another video (ruclips.net/video/er3zE5SP6uc/видео.html). During the shots, the train derailed once and in other places, sufficient sand was covering the track to stop the train. A lot of shoveling had to be done (and it was not coal). Just to add to the problem, a long part of the track around Leleque is blocked by the Mapuche autonomists.
Very well done. An absolute treasure of a video. Everything was spectacular especially the mountains. Would dearly love to go on this trip one day. Regards.
don't forget to visit argentina
Excellent video, high quality filming very enjoyable!
Como argentino digo que es hermoso nuestro expreso patagónico. Aún en la actualidad funciona como tren turístico y tube la suerte de viajar en el..
Fantastic! Those are some well built 2-8-2s and it's good to see that there are people still caring for them.
It's good to see they are still running. It really looks, though, from the filthy smoke to the steam coming from every joint that they aren't being cared for very well. I think the operation of these machines says a lot more for their excellent manufacture than for their maintenance.
Perfekt gefilmt.... großartig 👍🏻🚂
Great ! Really enjoyed every scene of the video
I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN ARGENTINIAN BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE EVER
Thank you. It is even nicer in winter, but there can be snow, anything from a bit up to a lot. Depends.
@@KochersbergTV There the north side of the house gets the sun instead of the south side.
@@jolyonwelsh9834 Yes indeed. But there are few houses in this part of Patagonia. So you hardly notice it!
@@KochersbergTV You would notice it. The shadow of any object would move in the opposite direction as the sun travels from right to left across the sky. Unlike it the northern hemisphere where the sun travels from left to right.
@@jolyonwelsh9834 I was joking about the houses. Of course you are right. But in this particular place there are no trees, very few houses, so it is not where this inversion is the most visible. It is much more noticeable in Buenos Aires for example.
great audio, beautiful landscape shots. thanks for posting
Ya sholat penting ,Civic 19 juga penting
thank you Kochersberg..beautiful ,The Trochita and Esquel ( Gracias Kochersberg..Hermoso ,La Trochita y MI Esquel )
Es bueno que conserven estas maquinas....n se imaginan lobien que uno se sient viendo estos videos...
Excellent Video. I am surprised I haven't seen it before. Thank you for sharing it.
It's just great to see steam locomotives working for a living... Thanks!
Espectacular el video , recuerdo haber viajado en 1983 eramos varios soldados en el viaje destinados al destacamento de Esquel. cuando el tren llega a Esquel la vista es impresionanteeeeee
NECESITAMOS RENOVAR AL MENOS 25.000 KM DE VÍAS FÉRREAS DE LAS 48.000 ORIGINALES PARA CARGA Y PASAJEROS ... DESDE JUJUY A SANTA CRUZ Y DESDE MISIONES A MENDOZA/CATAMARCA !!!
ES CORRECTO LO QUE UD MANIFIESTA....
ESTE TRÉN HOY ES TURÍSTICO Y GOZA DE RECONOCIMIENTO MUNDIAL, POR ELLO SE LO MANTIENE ASÍ TAL CUAL ESTÁ...
SIN DUDAS HASEN UN GRAN TRABAJO EN LOS TALLERES DESDE HASE DÉCADAS NO LE PARESE...
Ótimo vídeo, parabéns.
Great video!!
Fantastic!!!
Got trains all along the line!
Started with a mixed freight/passenger double header. Later split in 2 trains: passenger and all cargo!
¡MAGNÍFICO!
First time I see a full freight train running on La Trochita!! Lovelly!
I'd seen photos of 60s & 70s, even taking motorcars on flat cars.
Though pity that most takes were choped and only have a few full freight train takes (if you have those full shots and can remake the video would be Great!).
And the guard vans/cabboses should have been brown for passenger and orange for freight trains, and a the rear of the trains.
Dear sirs many thanks!
I enjoy your video
Saludos = cheers
Ricardo
Buenos Aires, 🇦🇷 Argentina
Thank you for your nice (and commented) comment. You may be interested in a more recent video I made of the same railway. Different season and different light.
Sensational! - We all talk about "the middle of no where" - This trip takes you there. It is somewhere crossing La Patagonia. Enjoy! // ¡Sensacional! - Todos hablamos de lugares recónditos. - Este viaje los lleva allí, le pusieron "the middle of no where" y queda cruzando por la Patgonia. ¡Sensacional video, disfrútenlo!
Por rieles y durmientes de los tiempos pasados, voy paseando mi vieja memoria por los tres de antaño...... Esos que no quedaron olvidados... Hernan. Humilde samurai.
Gracias por esa poesia... Posiblemente que le guste otra película que grabe en el 2019 en Patagonia: ruclips.net/video/er3zE5SP6uc/видео.html
Felicidades Argentina conserven esta ,maravilla Bolivia tuvo ferrocarriles ingleses locomotoras Garratt Mikado etc destruyeron todo hasta vendieron las rieles una verguenza.
Must have taken a lot of effort to put this video together with all of those great shots.
Thank you! A WONDERFUL video and a 'must see' place to visit!
When you say "parts of the line that are not normally used"... does this mean that the line is incomplete? A 400km excursion run would be PHENOMENAL but given that I see baggage & box cars I'm assuming that this line still does active service?
Please post a link to this wonderful line! My passport is screaming to go!
Dwayne www.welcomeargentina.com/esquel/la-trochita-patagonian-express.html
Yes indeed, a wonderful place. To answer your question, of the 400 plus km of the line still in place, only 50 km are in regular use: Esquel to Nahuel Pan and El Maitén to Ingeniero Thomae. As there is only one workshop for the maintenance of the locomotives, the track between Esquel and El Maitén is kept in reasonably good shape and from time to time, trains cover the whole distance. The situation of the Northern section of the line is less clear, but there seems to be an intention to reopen the section Ingenerio Jacobacci to Ojo de Agua (?); for more information, keep an eye on the Tren Patagonia web site.
Thank you for your reply - in addition to the great rail videos you bring to us. Great way to travel & see the world (and deductible too, I hope!). A man could sit alongside that track for weeks and be quite content.
+KochersbergTV Good to know the whole line is technically open. I wonder if this railway can deliver socially (school and commuter traffic if not freight the latter being the best possibility)
Vraiment superbe cette vidéo quand la locomotive nous dévoile son âme de l’eau du charbon et du feu la vapeur une force motrice qui remonte bien avant l’homme
Great job of setting up the shots.
amazing steam locomotives video
hermoso nuestro lejano sur..
Muy bueno es el vídeo te agradezco kochersberg no sabia que en el sur de mis país haiga de esta clase de locomotora espero de organizar un viaje por esos lugares
Strepitoso!!! Grazie mille
Alle Daumen hoch! Als wenn ich einmal in Argentina gewesen ware...
Hermoso video...
Me gusta LOS trenes saludos de Puerto Rico caqueta colombia muchas bendiciones Dios LOS BENDIGA
Que bonitos paisajes.....saludos.....
Excellent photography. You have shooted same train from different locations for first 4 to5 longshots . Really hardwork.Desert to foests and so on .Is this true that speed and capacity of steam engine
depend on number of drive wheels. Thanks.
Speed of a locomotive is partially influence by the diameter of the wheels. Capacity by the number of the wheels.
exelente video
Excellent.
Muito lindo.
Fantastic video thank you. Your editing should include the whole length of the trains with number of coaches pulled etc instead of just the locos and half of the train. Also worthwhile showing inside of the passenger coach. What is the line gradient and length?
I completely agree with you!
Great pity the scenes were chopped off.
Viajei muito em trens de ferri. Saudades
Thanks for video!
Super butiful! !
I hope this 400km narrow gauge line can carry freight too! this will assist Argentina's economy
Did so for many years as all cargo or mixed cargo/passenger service but that was till mid 80s; after only passenger trains from Jacobacci to Esquel & back.
Pouco vento no local, heim? MARAVILHOSO!
"Little" wind on the spot, huh? WONDERFUL!
Yes, unfortunately, Patagonia is very windy. And it could have been worse.
Beautiful film making. I like it
maravillosooooo¡¡¡
Great little railroad ! Nice work !
Awesome..looks like wild west terrain
Así era mi transporte en mi país
Stunning video and landscape....this trip is on the bucket list now. Excuse my ignorance but are those oil burners smoking so heavily due to over fueling at high altitude? Also why do they have not a regular sound (4 chuffs per wheel rev) but this irregular (but very enjoyable) ta-ta-tam ta-ta-tam sound?
They are oil burners. The problem is that the crew believes that railway enthusiasts want a lot of smoke. The same holds true on some my other videos, notably the Zimbabwe one. So nothing to do with altitude. For the irregular sound, a lack of maintenance unfortunately.
The valves are not adjusted perfectly, so not a precise choo-choo-choo-choo. Almost impossible to get it right. So, usually one of the four chuffs will be a little louder... which gives the classic four-four musical beat of the steam locomotive. Oil fired locomotives can run perfectly clean; altitude is not a problem. But if a photographer is seen a kind fireman will “makes smoke” for just a short time. A steam locomotive photo with no smoke is weak.
I’m kinda glad you didn’t went on a really windy day.
Well. It was windy. But if you are interested in seeing what real windy is, you can have a look on my more recent Patagonia video here: ruclips.net/video/er3zE5SP6uc/видео.html
The first loco shown has a pipe venting steam from the tender. I don't see a booster engine on the tender. Can anyone tell me what that steam vent is for?
Heating of the fuel, in the tender, I guess
KochersbergTV
You are right.
In 1992 when traveling from Jacobacci to Esquel, Baldwin engine was changed at Cerro Mesa.
As the fluel of the Baldwin engine to take service was still too cold, the one that just arrived was put next to the other, and through a hose into the tender's fluel, hot air was sent in to warm it up.
Baldwin engines ran the trains from Jacobacci to El Maiten, and from there to Esquel ran the Henshel.
Es la descarga de vapor del caño de calentamiento del Fuel-Oil.
Son cabeza dura, y nunca pusieron en su extremo inferior, una Trampa de vapor para ahorrar el mismo y no ventearlo!!!!
Grrrrrrrrr
Amazing
Oh yeah, I forgot they are oil burners. Duh. Thanks, KochersbergTV.
Parabéns pelo trabalho chow de vídeo infelizmente pra nós aqui no Brasil não existe na em a diesel
Obrigado Gilmar Silva!! En Rosario Argentina hay una locomotora a vapor muito grande!! Procura x RUclips ? Seu nomen ê La Imperatriz .... Abrazo!!
@@julionceccarossi2266 irei procurar sim amigo obrigado e continua mandando essas maravilhas de vídeos
Parabéns pelo video muito legal
almost took the train from bariloche to ba in the 70's. no longer there.
El video fue exelente y yo tengo la suerte de vivir en la zona
Awesome.
Why is there steam coming out of the tender?
Heating of the heavy oil in the tender. Otherwise it would be too viscous to be used.
@@KochersbergTV Bit cold down in Patigonia!
Yes. It can be very cold in winter, with sometimes lots of snow.
,love the whistle a 13:27
Muito bom....
Forgive my ignorance, - I'm not a 'steam man' - but I still like watching them. Why does one loco have steam exhausting through a pipe on the top of the tender, is it from some kind of 'jacket' to keep the oil warm as it must get pretty cold where they operate. Excellent video with some very evocative views - really enjoyed it.
You got the point: the oil has to be heated otherwise it is too thick to be pumped into the burner.
Adding to Kochersbergs point if it's not at the right temperature it will not vaperise correctly
Thank-you, - being "non steam" all these little things one is not aware of.
ВОЗЬМИТЕ МЕНЯ, ПОЖАЛУЙСТА КОЧЕГАРОМ НА ЭТОТ ПАРОВОЗ.
คิดถึงขบวนรถไฟ.......ธนบุรี..น้ำตก................
Bello.
Wowww..old rail in Argentina good a trip...sucsea to you..
Very very good
MUITO SHOW,MUITO SHOW
Great clip. When was the line built ?
The line has a long complicated history. Work started in 1922 and actually was never completed.
I would suggest that Argentine spring for a newer Locomotive for hauling box cars and purchase some passenger cars for these engines and set up a tourist trap!!
Good idea. It is actually a tourist railway as well. Take a look here: latrochita.org.ar
It's looks like as a wild west film! Amazing
arent the 4 and 16 just oil burning copies of the D&RGW's K-27?the 101 looks like the WP&YR 73
All locomotives on this railway are oil burners.
Hi Dixie it's a 75 cms (29,5 inches) gauge; locos are #1 to 25 Baldwin, #101 onwards Henschel & Sohn; other vehicles Famillereux
@@ricardojuricic9027 oh ok thanks
Look at the wind, in patagonia is soooo cold...
Does the Trochita still haul freight? Or are they like the Cumbres and Toltec scenic railroad where they do charter freights for photos?
There has not been freight traffic on the Trochita for ages. All trains shown in the video were charters. At the time of writing, there is practically no traffic on the line whatsoever, apart from the short leg (20 km) between Esquel and Nahuel Pan (COVID permitting). I went back to the Trochita in 2019 and it was clear that the track condition has not improved. Some political unrest around Leleque is also making things more complicated. My 2019 video is here : ruclips.net/video/er3zE5SP6uc/видео.html
@@KochersbergTV Thank you so much! That’s good to know!