The pontian dialect is a form of ancient greek but no one denies there are some words that are turkish in meaning, you understand that pontians have 3500 year history in the black sea region Trapezounta,Samsounta, Just like the word "Istanbul" means Is Thn Poli "to the city" greek translation.
Words of çam and baş are Turkish words. Çam means pine and baş means top or head so Çambaşı means the top of pine. Besides '' hadi hadi gidelim bizim odaya '' means come on come on let's go to our room. Besides there are turkish words like yavru or yavrı means baby and ''yavrum'' means my little one and duvar (wall)..and also '' yar yar aman '' yar means beloved, and aman is exclamatory word that describes the astonishment, liking, longing etc.
I like this little conversation. Filled with - how do we say - so much poison and bitterness. Its really useless to react on the comments of some people. On the other side, its our duty to show some people how far they can go, without losing their dignity. I hope i have never looked away when others tried to take away their dignity, when i adress something to them commiting in accusing them of taking away my dignity - without any substantial reason.
giar giar or yar yar (in turkish) is sure an exclamations but in songs or just to fill space in music...the real meanings is beloved or lover and some parts of this song are in turkish like..hadi hadi gidelim bizim odaya means aide aide lets go to our room...regards
Living in the neigborhood where Ataturk's house is still standing, I can tell you that it is well known that his family was of Jewish origin.. As for the city, well you can see for yourself when you come.
Αυτό είναι γνωστό, δεν το αμφισβήτησε κάποιος. Απλώς απάντησα στον άλλον που είπε ότι ο Ξανθόπουλος τραγουδάει στα Ελληνικά και στα Τούρκικα. Δεν είπε ότι τραγουδάει σε γλώσσα με ελληνικά και τούρκικα στοιχεία.
@Wildgypsie We had a visit also from Niko when he was in Australia. He came for about a half a day, I was a little older than you back then, I was around 15yo, and I remember he came, and visited my father, they spoke about many things that day. It seems that they had past storys of friends and relatives they both knew. I hink our families had been close in Pontos in the early 1900's. Its quite funny, in retrospect, to watch some of his clips on youtube and see how bad the acting was. lol
Zoramos, you miss the point. The vulgar expression I used before ('dog-head') is not one we Greeks use nowadays for Turks. It is a term used by the Anatolian Greeks at the time they first encountered the Turks who were invading their land. To them the invading Turcoman Oghuz tribes looked very alien indeed.
Φιλε pontian69, πολυ ωραιο βιντεο και μια περιτρανη αποδειξη του ποσο αλλιωθηκε ο χορος τις δεκαετιες του '60 και '70.Γιατι...αυτο που χορευουν στο τελος μονο σερρα δεν ειναι!!!
+ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣ ΚΑΛΟΜΕΝΙΔΗΣ Γιατί , ήξερες πως ήταν πριν από αυτές τις δεκαετίες, έτσι ώστε με τόση σιγουριά να τον χαρακτηρίσεις "αλλοιωμένο΄΄; Και πόσο μάλιστα ενώ τον συγκρίνεις σε σχέση με τον τρόπο που χορεύεται στη δική σου δεκαετία, πολλές δεκαετίες αργότερα από το ήδη ''αλλοιωμένο" όπως υποστηρίζεις χορό Σέρρα. Εμείς δηλαδή ξέρουμε πως χορεύονταν στον Πόντο ; Οξύμωρο , δε νομίζεις ;
KATHE FORE POU VLEPO AUTO TO VIDEO DRAKRIZO EKI O ADINATOS PISO APO TON LIRITSI INE O KSADELFOS MOU DIMOS !!! EFIKE STA(42)TOU HRONIA RESPEKT DIMO KALOS ANDROPOS KAI TELIOS HOREFTARAS!!!NASE KALA EKI POU ISE.TER.ANASTASIOS 59
yes little part is turkish ''yar yar aman'' '' of of aman '' and '' hadi gel gidelim bizim odaya'' meanings are respectively '' beloved beloved mercy '' '' of of mercy '' '' come on let us go to our room ''
I am not a jew. Just because someone converts to another faith does not make him evil. And i am sure, jews are also only human beings with all their faults, like all the other people. Things change when you see their role from a geopolitical perspective and when you compare the interests they are used to represent with what unites and what divides people. Ataturk is not evil because of the fact that he converted to judaism or because of descent, but because of commited works - if done.
File swedgrek: Pios se ftei kai doulewis 60 ores tin ebdomada? Kai ego doulewo 60 ores tin ebdomada, logo tou oti den ginete alios. Ala ti pai na pi auto? Ekini pou den doulewoun 60 ores tinebdomada ine tempelides? Den to katalaba auto gia ligo pes mas!! Mipos sou ftene auti pou soun stin ellada kai den doulkewoun 60 ores tin ebdoamda? I se piese kapios na iothetisiws mia nootropia pou kata bathos kseris oti ine ena megalo psema?
They speak like the Ancient Greeks but with dialect so the others do not undestand them (Not even the other Greeks) Some Turkish, Armenian and Persian words are included.
No, not at a level where you can say this from the pontian culture resembles Lazistan and its people. Ethnicity in a strict interpretation reflects one's identity, language and cultural background. You equated Pontos with Laz and I am simply saying that, that is wrong. Anyhow this is not the place to have long discussions.
To:teleft - Re se spernoun eki pou den theloun...o tipakos pou milaw ine bines ke kserolas , kita na sou po , ehw zisi stin ellada 13 hronia ke kserw oti hwris to frapedaki den ginete na zisi o kosmos...kegw ta idia ekana alla otan ehis oikogenia alazoun ta dedomena. nase 30 hronwn ke na zis metoys gonis sou den se kani aksioprepes nomizw....ne 60 douleyw gifto omws ehw kena spiti diko mou ke amaksi diko mou sta 29 mou ke ohi apo klironomia....
Kiria "thessalonikia" apo ton kanada. An tha sas ixan pari esas kai tin oikogenia sas ta kefalia, den tha milousate etsi, kai oxi mono auto.... Den xriasetai na imaste iperifanoi. I iperifania pou exete esis ftani gia oli tin ellada. Distixos auto ine poli kako, giati ine katastrofiko kai gia ton eauto sas kai gia tin "riza" gia tin opia milate ala den sebeste.
lol, the side by side and physical appearance argument does not grant someone an ethnicity. Greeks and Pontians lived side by side with Persians, Romans, Ottomans, etc etc, does that make all of them Greek or vice versa ? Italians look very much like Greeks and Sicilian Italians more, but does this make them Greek ? No. Lazs are not Pontians, they are not Greeks.
Oyy oyyyy. Bu güzelim yurdun etle tırnağını emperyalistler nasıl da ayırmışlar birbirinden. Hepinizi seviyorum.
Καλή χρονιά Νίκο είσαι από τους πρώτους να Ζήσης πολα χρόνια και να σε βλέπουμε στην τηλεόραση
Ordu my blood my Soul my hometownnn :) Love the Song
tank you for this great clip !!! greetings from turkiya !!! peace to ellada ! manamou !!!
Νίκο ισουνα είσαι και θα είσαι ένας από τους πρώτους πρέπει να γυρίσουν να σε ξαναφέρουν στην τηλεόραση να σε βλέπω και
The pontian dialect is a form of ancient greek but no one denies there are some words that are turkish in meaning, you understand that pontians have 3500 year history in the black sea region Trapezounta,Samsounta, Just like the word "Istanbul" means Is Thn Poli "to the city" greek translation.
song needs to played in the allepo streets today!
history is repeating itself.
Words of çam and baş are Turkish words. Çam means pine and baş means top or head so Çambaşı means the top of pine. Besides '' hadi hadi gidelim bizim odaya '' means come on come on let's go to our room. Besides there are turkish words like yavru or yavrı means baby and ''yavrum'' means my little one and duvar (wall)..and also '' yar yar aman '' yar means beloved, and aman is exclamatory word that describes the astonishment, liking, longing etc.
@@pontian69 I think so, we shared beyond that! I think Greeks are one of the closest connected/relative peoples of the Anatolian Turks.
This is one of my favourite Xanthopoulos movies. Thank you so much for putting it up
Telia, super 👏👏
Σερρα μαυρη θαλασσα Serra Karadeniz
Αξέχαστος Ξανθόπουλος🇬🇷💯💯🥀🌹🌻
Στο καλο μεγαλε Ποντιε καλο παραδεισο να εχεις
harika !
Luv luv this ,and this classical movie the best as our golden boy Niko xanthopoulos takes u on a journey through the back sea and every part ,☺️
E,Πατρίδα,δεν σε ξεχνούμε ούτε εμείς που μόνο ακουστά σ 'έχουμε..
Νίκο μου αξέχαστε να είσαι καλά εκεί που είσαι και να τους διασκεδάζεις🇬🇷💯💯🥀
HADİ HADİ GİDELİM BİZİM ODAYA,, OLSO,,
I like this little conversation.
Filled with - how do we say - so much poison and bitterness. Its really useless to react on the comments of some people. On the other side, its our duty to show some people how far they can go, without losing their dignity. I hope i have never looked away when others tried to take away their dignity, when i adress something to them commiting in accusing them of taking away my dignity - without any substantial reason.
Super
Εν το παίζουμε Ελληνάρες αγαπητέ! Είμαστε Ελληνάρες τζαι αρέσκει μας πολλά!:)
Τενιες
Totally great...
the first dancer is my uncle chambos !!!!!!!!!
giar giar or yar yar (in turkish) is sure an exclamations but in songs or just to fill space in music...the real meanings is beloved or lover and some parts of this song are in turkish like..hadi hadi gidelim bizim odaya means aide aide lets go to our room...regards
bola emorfa.. bravo bravo pontian69 kurbanume :)
süper
cok guzel
Ακουσα 3 διαφορετικες εκτελεσεις ως τωρα του κκ. Ξανθοπουλου ειναι iconic.
Megali
🎉❤
He is not singing in both Greek (Demotic) and Turkish. He is singing in Pontian.
Living in the neigborhood where Ataturk's house is still standing, I can tell you that it is well known that his family was of Jewish origin.. As for the city, well you can see for yourself when you come.
Cabasin burned accidentally propably and the guys from the next village,Ordu,helped them.
Best off!!!!!
TRAGEDIES ARE COMMON......POLITICIANS MUST DIE.....HUMANITY WILL WON......ela yavrim yar yar aman yaşa KEMENCE
τραγουδαρα!!
Ellas
Classic treasure.
Για σου πατρίδα αθάνατη
super rien a dire
Adam iyi soyledi
Merhaba Erdem Αkardas!
Geisou Ksenofon me to Xoron kai to Trantagma's!!!
αυτη ειναι απο τις αγαπημενες μου ταινιες...
ξανθοπουλος δεν ξαναγινεται..
RESPEKT
Kalo
ασχετο σχολιο....
οι Ποντιοι ειναι πολυ ωραιοι Ελληνες ρε παιδια....πολυ ομως!!! ΝΑ ΖΗΣΕΙ Ο ΠΟΝΤΟΣ
God bless toys botous
RESPEKT
Αυτό είναι γνωστό, δεν το αμφισβήτησε κάποιος. Απλώς απάντησα στον άλλον που είπε ότι ο Ξανθόπουλος τραγουδάει στα Ελληνικά και στα Τούρκικα. Δεν είπε ότι τραγουδάει σε γλώσσα με ελληνικά και τούρκικα στοιχεία.
Μεγαλε ΝΙΚΟ ναχεις υγεια ΡΟΔΟΣ
The song are mixed language pontus(rum), laz(turkish kafkas) and turkish
Вы правы
super rien a dire
Ha Ushak ha
❤❤❤🥹🥹🥹
❤❤
KAZANTZIDIS 4 EVER!!
"hayde hayde gidelim bizim odaya" = lets lets go to our room
And "Tsampasin" = Chambashi = Cham(pine)bası(head)
And i didnt comment becouse some of us work in this world....Tembeli....Ante geia reeeeeeeee!!
to tsambasin einai konta sta kotyora(ordu)einai oreo meros ta kotyora
Hooooopa ......... Kemence megali !!!!! One day come when grekos and türkis unite!!!!! Like Bob Marley say re Haco malaka
@Wildgypsie We had a visit also from Niko when he was in Australia. He came for about a half a day, I was a little older than you back then, I was around 15yo, and I remember he came, and visited my father, they spoke about many things that day. It seems that they had past storys of friends and relatives they both knew. I hink our families had been close in Pontos in the early 1900's. Its quite funny, in retrospect, to watch some of his clips on youtube and see how bad the acting was. lol
Zoramos, you miss the point. The vulgar expression I used before ('dog-head') is not one we Greeks use nowadays for Turks. It is a term used by the Anatolian Greeks at the time they first encountered the Turks who were invading their land. To them the invading Turcoman Oghuz tribes looked very alien indeed.
merhaba Erdem arkadas
An old song from Kotiora, Ordu.
@Erkan Gökdeniz Türkmen anlamadım
hey,it is shocking to see how similar we are..greetings from Turkey!!
Είμαστε ένα όλοι οι Πόντιοι Ελλάδα - Τουρκία ίδιο αίμα!!!
Οσο για τον Κεμαλ φυσικά καιήταν εβραίος ντονμές!
Και να χλμ των
somebody knows that movie name?
Σ αυτόν τον και Ανηκω🇬🇷❤️
Φιλε pontian69, πολυ ωραιο βιντεο και μια περιτρανη αποδειξη του ποσο αλλιωθηκε ο χορος τις δεκαετιες του '60 και '70.Γιατι...αυτο που χορευουν στο τελος μονο σερρα δεν ειναι!!!
+chris calomenidis mipos kseris na mou pis ta tragoudia pou tragoudaei
+ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣ ΚΑΛΟΜΕΝΙΔΗΣ Γιατί , ήξερες πως ήταν πριν από αυτές τις δεκαετίες, έτσι ώστε με τόση σιγουριά να τον χαρακτηρίσεις "αλλοιωμένο΄΄; Και πόσο μάλιστα ενώ τον συγκρίνεις σε σχέση με τον τρόπο που χορεύεται στη δική σου δεκαετία, πολλές δεκαετίες αργότερα από το ήδη ''αλλοιωμένο" όπως υποστηρίζεις χορό Σέρρα. Εμείς δηλαδή ξέρουμε πως χορεύονταν στον Πόντο ; Οξύμωρο , δε νομίζεις ;
To : Scheianu , now i understand your comments...you are from Romania...ok i understand you.... bye bye zipsi.... aderfara.
KATHE FORE POU VLEPO AUTO TO VIDEO DRAKRIZO EKI O ADINATOS PISO
APO TON LIRITSI INE O KSADELFOS MOU DIMOS !!! EFIKE STA(42)TOU HRONIA
RESPEKT DIMO KALOS ANDROPOS KAI TELIOS HOREFTARAS!!!NASE KALA
EKI POU ISE.TER.ANASTASIOS 59
Πολύ ζωντανεια έχουν οι ποντιει
yes little part is turkish ''yar yar aman''
'' of of aman '' and '' hadi gel gidelim bizim odaya'' meanings are respectively
'' beloved beloved mercy '' '' of of mercy ''
'' come on let us go to our room ''
why your are asking this;-), it was burn accidental
I am not a jew. Just because someone converts to another faith does not make him evil.
And i am sure, jews are also only human beings with all their faults, like all the other people. Things change when you see their role from a geopolitical perspective and when you compare the interests they are used to represent with what unites and what divides people. Ataturk is not evil because of the fact that he converted to judaism or because of descent, but because of commited works - if done.
File swedgrek:
Pios se ftei kai doulewis 60 ores tin ebdomada?
Kai ego doulewo 60 ores tin ebdomada, logo tou oti den ginete alios. Ala ti pai na pi auto? Ekini pou den doulewoun 60 ores tinebdomada ine tempelides?
Den to katalaba auto gia ligo pes mas!!
Mipos sou ftene auti pou soun stin ellada kai den doulkewoun 60 ores tin ebdoamda?
I se piese kapios na iothetisiws mia nootropia pou kata bathos kseris oti ine ena megalo psema?
αυτο πως σου φαινετε
nomisis oti auta se kanoun aksioprepes:
"ne 60 douleyw gifto omws ehw kena spiti diko mou ke amaksi diko mou sta 29 mou" ?
They speak different languages. rumca (pontiaka) is not lazca (lazuri).
They speak like the Ancient Greeks but with dialect so the others do not undestand them (Not even the other Greeks) Some Turkish, Armenian and Persian words are included.
GREECE I REMBER THE GOOD DAYS BEFORE WE MIGRATED .
şarkı rumca ki kardia mou ponei
👏✋👍🌹🌷
And they have fallen to the searching
Orndu's Strong men (lol)
to lol pou paei?? sti metafrasi?
Eruksan so gurtareman t ordus ta palikarea.=ordu "strong men"they run to be saved(from the fire of tsampasin).
kserw ti einai. to asteio lew pou einai. giati tin metafrasi? ..
Physical apperance makes ethnicity?
Where in the deep south of the USA?
actually, many sicicians are at least partially greeks
No, not at a level where you can say this from the pontian culture resembles Lazistan and its people. Ethnicity in a strict interpretation reflects one's identity, language and cultural background. You equated Pontos with Laz and I am simply saying that, that is wrong. Anyhow this is not the place to have long discussions.
nice song, i think little part of the song is turkish
mustafa topuz yes it is and its very good like that!
True
dn katalabainw xristo apo ta comments....
lol
To:teleft - Re se spernoun eki pou den theloun...o tipakos pou milaw ine bines ke kserolas , kita na sou po , ehw zisi stin ellada 13 hronia ke kserw oti hwris to frapedaki den ginete na zisi o kosmos...kegw ta idia ekana alla otan ehis oikogenia alazoun ta dedomena. nase 30 hronwn ke na zis metoys gonis sou den se kani aksioprepes nomizw....ne 60 douleyw gifto omws ehw kena spiti diko mou ke amaksi diko mou sta 29 mou ke ohi apo klironomia....
Kiria "thessalonikia" apo ton kanada.
An tha sas ixan pari esas kai tin oikogenia sas ta kefalia, den tha milousate etsi, kai oxi mono auto....
Den xriasetai na imaste iperifanoi. I iperifania pou exete esis ftani gia oli tin ellada.
Distixos auto ine poli kako, giati ine katastrofiko kai gia ton eauto sas kai gia tin "riza" gia tin opia milate ala den sebeste.
its meaning sorry not meanings :))
Re sy, oi lazoi den einai pontioi, den einai Ellhnes.
Lazs are different people than Pontians.
@trehelesg >>>> lolololol!!!! :-)
xaxaxaax its a shame xD
Abu Abdurrazzaaq FUCK YOU! WE ARE THE BEST AND YOU ARE JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!
lol, the side by side and physical appearance argument does not grant someone an ethnicity.
Greeks and Pontians lived side by side with Persians, Romans, Ottomans, etc etc, does that make all of them Greek or vice versa ?
Italians look very much like Greeks and Sicilian Italians more, but does this make them Greek ? No.
Lazs are not Pontians, they are not Greeks.
the only awful thing is you here..
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Megali