Maybe some of y'alls criticism here is legit but you are talking about a guy who regularly runs through 10p guys at EBIs. His teammates have done so as well.
They do a great job of avoiding full guard and most people suck at rubber guard anyway. Still this particular move is basically just giving someone a triangle.
I’m a 10P guy. I Defend against rubber guard in rolls pretty regularly. If you back out like this, a good rubber guard player can catch you in a dead orchard. That being said. I have popped out the back many times on guys that obviously didn’t have the best rubber guard game yet but, I don’t risk it on guys who’s game has developed.
Totally agree there are some anatomical considerations here. Just like a triangle or many other jiujitsu moves. If Gordon Ryan got caught in a dead orchard he would probably just flex and the dudes legs would explode off with such velocity it would reverse the rotation of the earth. But for the rest of us mortals we should watch out for that orchard trap doing this technique. But what the fuck do I know i will never be on Gordon’s level.
I don't see anyone catching Dead Orchard here. He's A) got his arms around the hips making it difficult to lock a triangle over a shoulder, and B) he's stacking to crowd the hips, making mobility difficult, and any successful DO a very weak one.
In the second fight there's no rubber guard. Bravo spend most of the time in the deep half guard. But I agree he schooled Royler. That was beautiful to watch. A lot of eletric chairs and one vaporizer I guess. But I'm not a 10 Planet guy, just a fan of grappling
Or just trust the guy who got further than any rubber guard player ever did. Maybe the best grappler ever, vs a great grappling system that never reached the top of the heap.
Not butt hurt in the least my guy. Garry tonon has a more effective rubberguard escape video up. This just isn't good. Y'all act like just because someone is a world class black belt its impossible for them to be wrong or weak at certain things.
@@jasons9087 that's not true they've had some very competitive matches and of course Geo beat Eddie Cummings. I've never understood a man who takes pleasure off someone else's failings who is much better than they are
TheRosyCodex the rubber guard system is extremely flawed and yet to be successful against solid competitors such as ADCC champs. The flaws in the system need to be addressed because it simply is flawed. If you can’t take criticism of this then you are brain washed
Does this applicable to GIs? coz theres alot of friction on it, and also the guard player may transition into something like grabbing one of his wrist(easy with GI) and goes for the omoplata.
I'm not 100% sure about this way, but then again it's Gordon Ryan and whatever he says go's but that just seems too risky, they might abandon ship and go for a sweep
This is a great video. The only problem is he isn’t showing different variations of different things happen in the rubber guard! He’s only showing one variation to one thing happening in rubber guard. Hint to why so many people think it won’t work! Mr. Ryan all you need to do is make a video showing different ways of getting out of different variations of the rubber guard! Thank you for the video have a great day!
Literally any time spent talking about rubber guard is wasting time. There's a reason you've never seen any rubber guard guys win big tournaments with it.
Yeah marcelo pretty much solved this by straight running through eddie bravos rubber guard attempts. And eddie said he thinks marcelo was toying with him.
This is a good early detection escape against somebody who is novice at rubber guard. Done correctly, her left foot should be placed on his hip to control posture as well. And when Ryan placed his hand on the mat, she should have hugged her right knee with her right arm, this complicating sliding out the back.
Oh… So Orchard hit this on the DDS dudes when he made it thru the rest of the heap to face them? Do you remember all the times the DDS got subbed in rubber guard? 🤦🏻
But what if she walks her shoulders back? It will destroy his posture once again. And yeah another thing missing is her right arm should be hugging her knee especially when his arms is down on the floor. Not really criticizing but just having a hard time rolling with 10thpjj dudes. The only remedy, even Eddie bravo himself has done it, is them good old leg locks to counter the rubber guard
I think the most telling evidence that rubber guard isn't as effective as 10P guys say is the fact that none of the high level guys use it in competition.
How is this escape prone to dead orchard since the sub it's a arm in triangle? And if a triangle is there i don't think the posture is low enough to get it. Im not a bjj savvy guy but in the last saunders fight, his opponent escaped rubber guard by posturing and getting up, which it's no different than this. Putting the arms close to his thighs avoid getting zombie and the arm for the dead orchard. Maybe i am very wrong but i am not that knowledgeable in bjj.
Seems like there's a waiter, back heel, tomoe nage or flower sweep in there somewhere. I've used all three against this guard break. Not that it won't work. Just my experience
@@michaelstrong4823 Thats a different story. I'm just commenting this because its the literal direct counter to his escape and its what the move was designed to do so as someone trying to teach rubber guard defense it should be mentioned. Obviously the top tier black belts and absolute divisions of the IBJJF, ADCC and EBI can escape, but I guarantee you anyone who isn't a top tier talent will get caught in the Dead Orchid.
Lol 😂 you are clearly a white belt! Rubber guard starts with holding the leg then you zombie for the overhook, why would Gordon let you put on a fully controlled position then say now guys get out lol, its like putting someone in a full blown rear naked choke all neck, hands locked behind the head then saying now escape lol! Even Gordon would be forced to submit if he was put in that position! There’s a point in every submission where you must tap beCause there’s no out at that point
Lol Which part of making sure your head is directly above hers, do your dumbfuck self not get. When that happens the dead orchard or whatever lame shit you guys are calling it wouldn’t work
I'm not contradicting anything ur saying Gordon I'm a big fan matter of fact I'm going to try this next time sum1 tries rubber guard on me however there is 2 things sonny isn't doing that could possibly hold sum1 in that position shes not hugging the knee and she doesnt put weight on the side where shes not hugging the knee but again I will try this and big fan
Has anyone else noticed when they do passing tutorials on how to pass rubberguard, the person holding the position is never holding their rubber guard correctly
I can smell the DO as you try and slither out, mind you that this is simply mission control, putting both hands on the mat makes for an easier transish to New York, no?
This is only one option against a weak control. Let's see the rest of the concepts. If the guarder is good, there is no escape without sacrificing a limb for an attack, unless you manage to walk the shoulders inside and free your head. Add a Gi in the mix and you're fucked with this attempt to open any guard.
Jiu jitsu’s so interesting. Here I am after watching this thinking “damn, did Eddie just lose business?” Then I look at the comments and I see people poke holes in gordon’s counter. With legitimate reasoning too. 👌🏽🙌🏽
Rubber guard is code for Stoned, Flexible, and have never been Punched in the face. Which will happen if you try it in a real situation. tenth planet is literally gay.
Wilson reis, a bjj black belt and ufc title contender sure did. You clearly haven't rolled with a guy who has a good rubber guard. This is almost like saying leg locks are easy to escape and only rolling against white belts
@@maukasmauno 10p does fuck all at ADCC and IBJJF No Gi. By the way they talk, you would think they would be destroying at it because they never wear the gi.
Good luck with that. You just gave the rubber guard player the hands on the mat which made you 10x deeper into it. This is the problem with people learning how to pass rubber guard at a gym where nobody knows how to do rubber guard
The same gym that constantly tears 10p competitors apart...LMAO. 15 year old purple belt Nicky Ryan beat the best of 10p black belt Geo. Renzo’s gym has 10p covered regardless of what you think
Oh and perhaps you should go argue with Marcelo Garcia. Just look up his escape from rubber guard. Even the GOAT has it wrong? Please wake up to the 10p bullshit
More like : "Open Rubber Guard from someone half your size who does not know what rubber guard is." It's obvious from this video that neither Gordon Ryan or his lady know how to properly execute a rubber guard.
That's not proper Rubber Guard lol. Not to discredit King Ryan, but when I herd "Just grabbing their ankle" I knew this video was going to be lame.. Rubber Guard isn't about holding your ankle as a clamping mechanism. Its actually hugging your knee and laying on your side forcing your opponent down. If you can't properly perform the technique, how can you explain how to escape???? A LOT of 10P guys dont know how to play rubber guard either unless they've trained with Eddie Bravo or Ben Eddy.
Nope that is the start of rubberguard.. called mission control in the system the knee hugging comes after you zombie your arm and force the opponent arm to the mat that is called new York in the system :)
Lmfao!!! That’s not how rubber guard works! Haha It’s a system, so no one is just holding you in rubber guard. That transitions would come so fast from someone who actually plays it that it would be incredibly difficult to use this technique to break it. I’m not saying rubber guard is the end all be all. It’s incredibly difficult to master. Learning how people “break it” just so you know how to keep it is the main key. However once you realize it’s a system and not something that you just “hold” some one in to break their posture you’ll know it’s not this easy. Correct me if I’m wrong but has Gordon competed against someone who plays rubber guard? I’m not sure, but I’m gonna guess not really.
He ran through tons of 10p blackbelts and is a multiple times Eddie Bravo invitational champion... But yeah, I still kinda agree with you. Just like there are plenty of good ways to open the closed guard that still doesnt't suddenly make it irrelevant.
Only relatively new to bjj (4 stripe white) and alot of these vids are good but always instructing as if the 'opponent' is not reacting, just being idle which wouldnt be the case. I know theres alot out there that have reactions to what they are doing but a LOT of them dont.
When I first saw this I thought "that's not the rubber guard. Her left foot should be on his right hip. She should be trying to control his arm with a zombie, so much wrong here." Then I saw how he "breaks" it, by pushing forward, up on his feet, and his head over her head, and I thought "yep, that's exactly why they had her do rubber guard incorrectly." If she had her foot where is supposed to be she could push his body back so that his head wouldn't be over her head. So yeah this is how you get out of rubber guard by someone who isn't even doing rubber guard.
I can get on board with that but on the flip side I also rarely see high level grapplers gut put into rubber guard to begin with. It's a pretty rare guard unless you pass kneeling against a 10th Planet grappler, right?
Controlling the leg opposite your under hook and keeping your head above your opponents rubberleg is the key. Once you can control that leg start with the knee cutter pass works all the time.
Putting the hand on the mat is no bueno..it gives the rubber guard player zombie and flying kung fu move..but if someone is playing a loose rubber guard this could work.
@NK Im not going to hate on either dude, but 10th planet wasn't "invented for mma." Just because someone says something doesn't mean you have to believe it. Jesus cheist people.
@NK ok for starters he had no mma guys. He didn't invent rubber guard. Literally there's no evidence it's for "mma". Dude. Jesus cheist. Do you even know what adcc is? He didn't invent nogi. His students never substantially did mma. He's ONLY ever been bjj. Look at HIS biggest students. None of them are mma.
Maybe some of y'alls criticism here is legit but you are talking about a guy who regularly runs through 10p guys at EBIs. His teammates have done so as well.
purchai26 bc he never gets this deep into their rubber guard. He’s too good to put himself in that position. But this pass is not going to work.
They do a great job of avoiding full guard and most people suck at rubber guard anyway. Still this particular move is basically just giving someone a triangle.
Also remember what his 15year old little brother did to a 10p black belt recently LMAO. The Ryan’s have 10p covered across the board.
John danaher
@@BuildingVanLife it's not a pass yes but it is a guard break. In my opinion watch Marcelo Garcia's rubber guard break and pass its legit
Guys stop arguing and let's give this link to Royler. He needs it.
I’m a 10P guy. I Defend against rubber guard in rolls pretty regularly. If you back out like this, a good rubber guard player can catch you in a dead orchard. That being said. I have popped out the back many times on guys that obviously didn’t have the best rubber guard game yet but, I don’t risk it on guys who’s game has developed.
But isn't it harder to get the dead orchard against guys with broader shoulders and bodies? Maybe that's why Gordon can use this?
Yet Ryan hasn't been caught...CORRECTION...BOTH RYANs haven't been caught.
Totally agree there are some anatomical considerations here. Just like a triangle or many other jiujitsu moves. If Gordon Ryan got caught in a dead orchard he would probably just flex and the dudes legs would explode off with such velocity it would reverse the rotation of the earth. But for the rest of us mortals we should watch out for that orchard trap doing this technique. But what the fuck do I know i will never be on Gordon’s level.
So what do you do against someone who's rubber guard game is on point?
How would the dead orchard work if your arms are outside RG? as gordons are demonstrated here
I'll have to look further into it
No one cares what you look into. Nobody. LOL.
@@michaelstrong4823 r/woooooosh
I don't see anyone catching Dead Orchard here. He's A) got his arms around the hips making it difficult to lock a triangle over a shoulder, and B) he's stacking to crowd the hips, making mobility difficult, and any successful DO a very weak one.
Someone tell Royler about this.
In the second fight there's no rubber guard. Bravo spend most of the time in the deep half guard. But I agree he schooled Royler. That was beautiful to watch. A lot of eletric chairs and one vaporizer I guess. But I'm not a 10 Planet guy, just a fan of grappling
🤣🤣🤣
You just gotta look into it
Or just trust the guy who got further than any rubber guard player ever did. Maybe the best grappler ever, vs a great grappling system that never reached the top of the heap.
This will work on some 1 who isn’t experienced with rubber guard for sure. But there are things to do against ppl standing like that.
Lol Which uses your hands and legs, that will still cause you to release the rubber guard, you dumbfuck
Double bagging works pretty well when they stand
@@Nova-qn9se exactly
@@damontan4749 well the position they get into isn’t the correct rubber guard. And the answer is still no u don’t have to let it go
lmao my main thought while watching this is theres going to be lots of butthurt 10p ppl in the comments😂
Not butt hurt in the least my guy. Garry tonon has a more effective rubberguard escape video up. This just isn't good.
Y'all act like just because someone is a world class black belt its impossible for them to be wrong or weak at certain things.
@@jasons9087 correct but that doesn't mean this particular technique is good.
@@jasons9087 that's not true they've had some very competitive matches and of course Geo beat Eddie Cummings. I've never understood a man who takes pleasure off someone else's failings who is much better than they are
TheRosyCodex Nicky Ryan beat Geo...a 15 year old purple belt beat the best out of 10p...come on man!
TheRosyCodex the rubber guard system is extremely flawed and yet to be successful against solid competitors such as ADCC champs. The flaws in the system need to be addressed because it simply is flawed. If you can’t take criticism of this then you are brain washed
Ahahaha I literally laughed when he just effortlessly noodled out
Thank you 🙏
This guy is insanely good
Who is he?
You guys are effn geniuses.
Does this applicable to GIs? coz theres alot of friction on it, and also the guard player may transition into something like grabbing one of his wrist(easy with GI) and goes for the omoplata.
Depends on the level of tje rubberguard player, this will work alot of times but there is definitely alot of options, so no rom for mistakes
Yeah, he has been caught ZERO times in rubber guard. Fact check.
@@michaelstrong4823 he's barely been cought in anything to be fair
I'm not 100% sure about this way, but then again it's Gordon Ryan and whatever he says go's but that just seems too risky, they might abandon ship and go for a sweep
plus there's a sweet spot when the hands go to the floor to transition into the gogo clinch
have you ever heard of timing?
@@angrychickin this is from 2 years ago i actually hit this on that one rubber guard user at the gym a few times
Didn't Marcello do this on Eddie multiple times?
Slightly deifferent but yeah
Marcelo made a video about it. Check out.
different
ruclips.net/video/ANxiPpAzACU/видео.html&ab_channel=InAction
Eddie would not have such a shitty rubber guard look alike, so no.
Just because gordon ryan can do it IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN DO IT
Yeah. Everyone does something. Watch worlds finals and ADCC. How many people are subbed in rubber guard? Thanks.
exactly
@@michaelstrong4823 The real question is how many times has this technique been used effectivelly in world finals and ADCC? Never,
Thanks.
Wow. I need to see a video on this
This is a great video. The only problem is he isn’t showing different variations of different things happen in the rubber guard! He’s only showing one variation to one thing happening in rubber guard. Hint to why so many people think it won’t work! Mr. Ryan all you need to do is make a video showing different ways of getting out of different variations of the rubber guard! Thank you for the video have a great day!
This video is only a tiny portion of his guard passing dvd I would imagine there is probably more in the dvd.
dude its a 3 min video.... what you're asking for is his full seminar.
@@devinjanke169 In that case do not purchase his dvd because he clearly does not even know what a rubber guard is.
Literally any time spent talking about rubber guard is wasting time. There's a reason you've never seen any rubber guard guys win big tournaments with it.
@@aplus1080😂😂😂😂
Yeah marcelo pretty much solved this by straight running through eddie bravos rubber guard attempts. And eddie said he thinks marcelo was toying with him.
This is a good early detection escape against somebody who is novice at rubber guard. Done correctly, her left foot should be placed on his hip to control posture as well. And when Ryan placed his hand on the mat, she should have hugged her right knee with her right arm, this complicating sliding out the back.
Oh… So Orchard hit this on the DDS dudes when he made it thru the rest of the heap to face them? Do you remember all the times the DDS got subbed in rubber guard? 🤦🏻
Merci !
But what if she walks her shoulders back? It will destroy his posture once again. And yeah another thing missing is her right arm should be hugging her knee especially when his arms is down on the floor. Not really criticizing but just having a hard time rolling with 10thpjj dudes. The only remedy, even Eddie bravo himself has done it, is them good old leg locks to counter the rubber guard
have you ever heard of timing?
I think the most telling evidence that rubber guard isn't as effective as 10P guys say is the fact that none of the high level guys use it in competition.
Wouldn’t having her left foot on the hip (like you’re supposed to) completely nullify this move?
Lmao I will make sure to never forget this.
How is this escape prone to dead orchard since the sub it's a arm in triangle? And if a triangle is there i don't think the posture is low enough to get it. Im not a bjj savvy guy but in the last saunders fight, his opponent escaped rubber guard by posturing and getting up, which it's no different than this. Putting the arms close to his thighs avoid getting zombie and the arm for the dead orchard. Maybe i am very wrong but i am not that knowledgeable in bjj.
Dead orchard isn't a triangle. Both arms are inside still.
0:02 is called missionary position
Seems like there's a waiter, back heel, tomoe nage or flower sweep in there somewhere. I've used all three against this guard break. Not that it won't work. Just my experience
Foot on his hip is a must upgrade for her, though...
Unless your shoulders are huge like Gordon then prepare to get Dead Orchided back to to Blue Belt.
Please let me know when anyone in high level BJJ (Worlds or ADCC) has been hit with a dead orchard at black belt level. Crickets…
@@michaelstrong4823 Thats a different story. I'm just commenting this because its the literal direct counter to his escape and its what the move was designed to do so as someone trying to teach rubber guard defense it should be mentioned. Obviously the top tier black belts and absolute divisions of the IBJJF, ADCC and EBI can escape, but I guarantee you anyone who isn't a top tier talent will get caught in the Dead Orchid.
Shouldn't there be an over hook in there somewhere...?
Lol 😂 you are clearly a white belt! Rubber guard starts with holding the leg then you zombie for the overhook, why would Gordon let you put on a fully controlled position then say now guys get out lol, its like putting someone in a full blown rear naked choke all neck, hands locked behind the head then saying now escape lol! Even Gordon would be forced to submit if he was put in that position! There’s a point in every submission where you must tap beCause there’s no out at that point
This is a good way to get caught in dead orchard lol
isnt anything a good way to get caught with something? i guess timing isnt a thing in your school..
@@angrychickin 👀👀 O-KAY
I dnt know why people fight in comments. This is the innovation game.
Thats eddies gift to bjj. Innovate.
Eddie hasn't given shit to BJJ.
@@aplus1080 still salty coz he fucked up Royler?
Royler looking into it...
need more hot chicks in the sport
Slick
Dead Orchard 100%
Lol Which part of making sure your head is directly above hers, do your dumbfuck self not get. When that happens the dead orchard or whatever lame shit you guys are calling it wouldn’t work
Sorry my mind starts to wonder...
Double Ankle Sweep
drop kick sweep
I'm not contradicting anything ur saying Gordon I'm a big fan matter of fact I'm going to try this next time sum1 tries rubber guard on me however there is 2 things sonny isn't doing that could possibly hold sum1 in that position shes not hugging the knee and she doesnt put weight on the side where shes not hugging the knee but again I will try this and big fan
Has anyone else noticed when they do passing tutorials on how to pass rubberguard, the person holding the position is never holding their rubber guard correctly
First she isn’t squeezing her knee. Secondly he other leg should hook and be active. Won’t work.
He definitely opened her guard that night
Cool... you're talking just like Danaher. lolz
Simple argument settler. How many times has Gordon been subbed in Rubber Guard? How often do DDS dudes use rubber guard? Yeah. Perfect answer.
No one questioned Gordon's credentials but this tutorial is a joke.
I'm sorry, but this rubber guard is kinda lazy, and there are some details missing. Other than that, sure, it could work.
Девушка снизу не сделала движение "zombie", то, почему раббер-гард в принципе трудно пройти
Yeah I'd like to see this demonstrated live-style with Jeremiah Vance or Nathan Orchard, por favor.
Bjj + girlfriend is the best thing, I swear 😂😂
Rubber Guard + BJ = Greatness
The most dangerous thing about being trapped in rubber guard is that you might fall asleep while your opponent does nothing.
Damn...shes hot af
As a rubberguard player i thank you for this.
This I dead orchard city.
I guarantee it.
I can smell the DO as you try and slither out, mind you that this is simply mission control, putting both hands on the mat makes for an easier transish to New York, no?
@@MastersmokeABUSE getting the overhooked arm on the mat means you're in new york
@@DownloadDeX So you agree?
@@MastersmokeABUSE 100%
DownloadDeX when is your DVD coming out😂😂😂
If wasn't GR you'd think this is the rediculous technique you'd ever seen 😂
💪💪💪
This is only one option against a weak control. Let's see the rest of the concepts. If the guarder is good, there is no escape without sacrificing a limb for an attack, unless you manage to walk the shoulders inside and free your head. Add a Gi in the mix and you're fucked with this attempt to open any guard.
is he the first guy to find the cure for this?
No Marcelo had also.
That's bjj though. Every move has a counter and every counter will have another
I mean... f'ing think about it. Do you REALLY think 10P would focus on this and have no counter?
ive never actually heard gordon ryan talk, he kind of has a lisp? haha, anyway great video, very helpful
Jiu jitsu’s so interesting. Here I am after watching this thinking “damn, did Eddie just lose business?”
Then I look at the comments and I see people poke holes in gordon’s counter. With legitimate reasoning too. 👌🏽🙌🏽
😂 this is terrifying. Eddie can't lose business because the sub-100 iq people will always keep him afloat.
DDS has ownd 10p and all of rubberguard for years now. Comments criticising this defense come from pp l who don't train
BUT THEY HAVE A BLACK BELT IN JOE ROGAN PODCASTS FEATURING EDDIE!!!11111111
Wtf is a dead orchard?
RIP Rubber guard. Next...crackhead control. Look into it.
Air Georgia not sure if baiting, but crackhead control is just a part of rubber guard.
Rubber guard is code for Stoned, Flexible, and have never been Punched in the face. Which will happen if you try it in a real situation. tenth planet is literally gay.
Does anyone actually have problems with this guard...
There's a 10p school near me that competes in gi and their collar chokes are very sneaky from rubber guard. No gi I haven't had trouble with it
Wilson reis, a bjj black belt and ufc title contender sure did. You clearly haven't rolled with a guy who has a good rubber guard. This is almost like saying leg locks are easy to escape and only rolling against white belts
@@maukasmauno 10p does fuck all at ADCC and IBJJF No Gi. By the way they talk, you would think they would be destroying at it because they never wear the gi.
like anything in bjj , the less you know the more trouble you’ll have with it.
Good luck with that. You just gave the rubber guard player the hands on the mat which made you 10x deeper into it. This is the problem with people learning how to pass rubber guard at a gym where nobody knows how to do rubber guard
totaaaaaally agree
The same gym that constantly tears 10p competitors apart...LMAO. 15 year old purple belt Nicky Ryan beat the best of 10p black belt Geo. Renzo’s gym has 10p covered regardless of what you think
Oh and perhaps you should go argue with Marcelo Garcia. Just look up his escape from rubber guard. Even the GOAT has it wrong? Please wake up to the 10p bullshit
Had someone try to rubber guard me once he didn’t try it again after I body slammed him
@@russellbrown1181 are you an insane person?
We call this the hucklebuck position....
Khabib better watch this
More like : "Open Rubber Guard from someone half your size who does not know what rubber guard is."
It's obvious from this video that neither Gordon Ryan or his lady know how to properly execute a rubber guard.
*Rubber guard only works against noobies. Do a FLAT PLANET escape NEXT!*
Shark Party yooooo that’s a good name for this escape 😂
That's not proper Rubber Guard lol.
Not to discredit King Ryan, but when I herd "Just grabbing their ankle" I knew this video was going to be lame..
Rubber Guard isn't about holding your ankle as a clamping mechanism. Its actually hugging your knee and laying on your side forcing your opponent down.
If you can't properly perform the technique, how can you explain how to escape????
A LOT of 10P guys dont know how to play rubber guard either unless they've trained with Eddie Bravo or Ben Eddy.
Nope that is the start of rubberguard.. called mission control in the system the knee hugging comes after you zombie your arm and force the opponent arm to the mat that is called new York in the system :)
Lmfao!!! That’s not how rubber guard works! Haha It’s a system, so no one is just holding you in rubber guard. That transitions would come so fast from someone who actually plays it that it would be incredibly difficult to use this technique to break it. I’m not saying rubber guard is the end all be all. It’s incredibly difficult to master. Learning how people “break it” just so you know how to keep it is the main key. However once you realize it’s a system and not something that you just “hold” some one in to break their posture you’ll know it’s not this easy. Correct me if I’m wrong but has Gordon competed against someone who plays rubber guard? I’m not sure, but I’m gonna guess not really.
He ran through tons of 10p blackbelts and is a multiple times Eddie Bravo invitational champion...
But yeah, I still kinda agree with you. Just like there are plenty of good ways to open the closed guard that still doesnt't suddenly make it irrelevant.
all this time rubber guard was considered evolving the game and shit... realistically you just have to rolled your shoulder over and your all set hah.
It was never considered evolving the game.
All I see is a dead orchard opportunity
Only relatively new to bjj (4 stripe white) and alot of these vids are good but always instructing as if the 'opponent' is not reacting, just being idle which wouldnt be the case. I know theres alot out there that have reactions to what they are doing but a LOT of them dont.
have you ever heard of timing?
No one's asking the real question is that girl single
I have bad news for you
She is not but it doesn’t seem to bother her either
Don't worry. It's his sister. 😂😂
Gordon has a sister?
justin perry they’re always posting about shagging each other so somehow I doubt that
When I first saw this I thought "that's not the rubber guard. Her left foot should be on his right hip. She should be trying to control his arm with a zombie, so much wrong here." Then I saw how he "breaks" it, by pushing forward, up on his feet, and his head over her head, and I thought "yep, that's exactly why they had her do rubber guard incorrectly." If she had her foot where is supposed to be she could push his body back so that his head wouldn't be over her head. So yeah this is how you get out of rubber guard by someone who isn't even doing rubber guard.
exactly
He doesn't understand rubber guard at all and you'll end up In an armbar if you try to escape this way
I've yet to see a single good "escape from the rubberguard" video
I can get on board with that but on the flip side I also rarely see high level grapplers gut put into rubber guard to begin with. It's a pretty rare guard unless you pass kneeling against a 10th Planet grappler, right?
Controlling the leg opposite your under hook and keeping your head above your opponents rubberleg is the key. Once you can control that leg start with the knee cutter pass works all the time.
@@WhtMike2006 it's more common in MMA.
Has any 10p guy beat him? So...
Vinny magalhaes
@@nicksizemore6914 you mean the guy with no ankle
@@stevemcqueen1968 lol yep that one, I was just pointing out Vinny did beat Gordon in a match however I believe Gordon is the superior grappler
@@nicksizemore6914 Vinny isn't fucking 10th planet. That dude was a fucking ADCC champ before he even met Eddie's dumb fucking ass.
She needs to do zombie then new york and so on so on
Putting the hand on the mat is no bueno..it gives the rubber guard player zombie and flying kung fu move..but if someone is playing a loose rubber guard this could work.
Who is she though?
Is that girl Gordon's girlfriend?
Eddie Bravo hates this video.
@NK I know bro I’m just kidding sorry it’s hard to convey sarcasm through text.
Dead orchard this escape all day
LoL yall need to remember that rubber guard was invented for mma.
No it wasn't. Don't believe bullshit.
@NK Im not going to hate on either dude, but 10th planet wasn't "invented for mma." Just because someone says something doesn't mean you have to believe it. Jesus cheist people.
@NK ok for starters he had no mma guys. He didn't invent rubber guard. Literally there's no evidence it's for "mma". Dude. Jesus cheist. Do you even know what adcc is? He didn't invent nogi. His students never substantially did mma. He's ONLY ever been bjj. Look at HIS biggest students. None of them are mma.
RIP 10P 😂😂😂😂
10P is more than the f'ing rubber guard.