I like your videos on the market/digital products a lot - you have this stuff engrained in your bones and your understanding of marketing makes this material worth listening to for manufacturers. Hope they do - i agree on many points. I am crossing fingers for a big ToneX pedal with Amplitube effects - that would be a home-run. Just one example - their age-old Uni+Vibe model kills everything else in that department released before or after.
Thanks dude! Yeah I am hoping the “big tonex” is well executed and thought out… it feels like the most anticipated platform that everyone is thinking about!
Tonex 2 will come out sooner or later. The major development for us is the Tonex Cab, which is the platform on which we can compare the captures you guys deliver.
I think you're correct about UA and what Strymon should have already done. Simple amp knobs are all that is required. Everything else can be plugged into software. What an incredible unit that would be and not cost the farm. Cheers
I’m getting some tips that Line 6 Will Be Announcing a new Helix flagship. Notice how GC Is not stocking new ones lately? Synergy has a new SYN-1 coming out as well
Marshall already did a "Fendery-clean with Marshall bark" type amp, back in the 90's. The JTM-30 was a KILLER offering (I have one that survived in awesome condition), and came in single 12" or twin 10" configurations (it also had an emulated XLR output as well which is remarkably good even by today's standards). The one thing that was iffy is the placement of the tubes, because they were horizontal, under part of the PCB, and some had thermal issues. If they took that platform, fixed the tube placement, added some features as you mentioned, it would be an amp that would fit so many players' needs, would be enough to gig with and still be portable, and even the emulated XLR output could be updated to include IR options (like the Fender Tone Masters), for unheard-of flexibility from a Marshall. It would be a win/win, especially if they could offer it for a gigging musician's budget.
This. Cut the "lifestyle brand" bullshit and give the real customers what they're actually looking for by their beloved amps into a modeler or into pedal form. It would be the gut-punch they need to stay in the game while they've been allowing everyone to take their lunch for 15+ years. Blackstar (up until the 2010s), Metropoulos, Friedman, etc. Marshall has been a complete joke after the JVM and Vintage Modern, their last objectively good amps.
@@UseTheSupeRsonictotally agree. I’ve recently bought a mini silver jubilee to go with my 100w version. But really I want it in Friedman irx format. In the end I grabbed the Friedman irJ and it’s bloody brilliant
I'm a huge fan of the Marshall sound, but there's always something you'd with it had. Being plate reverb, a little more gain, built in load or IR's, extra master volume to balance the channels etc. It would be great if Marshall split their amps in a classic and Hotrodded/ Modern categorie. Then offer recreations of the classics, but also experiment with hotrodded versions of their amps or with more modern features. Marshall also needs to take back part of their market share from Friedman, which have had a huge succes with their IR series of pre-amp pedals. If you think about it Marshall also doesnt offer a solid, modeling amp aimed towards beginners.
I saw some Fender verbage on the FR-212 and they mentioned that the amp design imitates the classic backline look. Does that fit in with music venues handling all the sound and saying "no amps"?
@@UseTheSupeRsonic people really try to justify spending over a grand for a bigsky, timeline, and mobius instead of just buying a HX stomp for those effects
@@SergioEnriquez-v8r Right? Dumbest way to spend all that money. Nobody hears the quality of those effects in a mix. Plus, who of us actually is using all these crazy reverbs so much that they need an 800 dollar single pedal for it?
I’m new to this area in music and getting back into playing. I’ve always had a bad amp and dreamed about a tube amp but so much has gone digital and even if it’s 90% of the way to each sound it’s way easier than having 20 pedals honestly. Regarding Fender…doesn’t their tone master have pedal buttons so it is a pedal, so I don’t get what you are trying to say they need to do?
I want to see Marshall update the JVM but have a built-in load box and IR capability. And fix some of the notorious issues with the circuit, for example the effects loop.
Those voodoo labs pedal really were amazing. The sparkle drive and the giggity together could shape your amp into about anything vintage voiced you could imagine.
They should consider this video!! Spot on!! Side Question: Weren’t the new releases supposed to come out on Tuesday? Is there any update?? (Not picking… just excited!! 😊)
I love my Tone Master Pro so far. I got it in the last month used for a good price. I've used real amps for a long time and it's my first dive into the digital world. I can see Fender doing single amp model pedals and think that'd be a good idea. It'd be cool to buy a single Princeton reverb pedal or with multiple amps similar to the Boss IR-2. I think Fender releases their high end stuff first and see how it sells and then release scaled down versions. It makes me think of how the Fender Meteora was first released as a limited run guitar and is now affordable and produced on a different scale with their player series.
The only 3 things I want to see: - Return of full size U.S made Way Huge pedals with Tone Leper and Piercing Moose reissues. - A full size 50 watt, and a 20 watt Studio series reissue of a 1975-1977 voiced Marshall master volume JMP. - Adrian Emsley coming out with a new medium gain, bright, Plexi voiced amp to replace the discontinued and highly underrated Brent Hinds Terror. I doubt we’ll see any of these things though.
The problem with Strymon is the price. If they took this idea of the iridium with other effects in one unit it would cost like 5k. Nobody is gonna pay that.
I’m excited to see what’s coming to NAMM this year. As far as fender stuff and coming from someone who has used a lot of modelers, I love my tone master pro and it has won me over after only using it for a couple weeks and I think it’s going to only get better with time. Fender loses me with guitars though as they get close to what I want spec wise but never quite get there for me.
I have been wishing for a Strymon Multi FX for ages, my guess is there is too much money to be made selecting them separately. At this point my guess is the will reboot the timeline and mobius versions to MX first. A multi FX from Strymon would have to be $2000+ for it to make sense for them based on the 700 price tag on the Bluesky MX. A bit expensive but I would love it as rack mount unit as well.
Yes!!! Marshall is leagues behind in modelers and calling out Fractal was a great shout. Fractal was dominating studio and touring musicians. I am shocked they never found the price point to compete with Line6 and ToneX for the bedroom
It doesn't seem like they want that market, honestly. Which is understandable, the margins aren't great, and they are still dominating studio and touring. Line 6 and tonex are owned by yamaha and fender, which gives them better leverage for volume plays. I think if they released "fractal native" like helix did, it would slay. But I think Cliff is too paranoid, I don't think he wants people to have access to his software.
Hey man. I gotta ask something. Why do you have to sell something old if the new version comes out? Genuine respectful question. Not trolling at all. Is that not just straight up consumerism? Like if there’s a new feature you’d always wished something had and it’s added I g RT that. But home much better can the new big sky really make your songs or your gigging experience? The last time I had so have one thing that came out was the Boss MS3. Cause it was the first time multi effects had been combined with loops in a compact size. That’s game changing to me. Upgraded versions of big verbs is great but in no way is it a must have if I already have a big verb pedal From the same company.
@@TheGuitarEffect hmmm 🤔 I don’t think I was trying to say Strymon should put out upgraded reverbs or new versions of existing pedals. I am hoping they combine there stuff into an all in one unit and maybe add more features…. They have already designed great verbs, delays mods, amp emulations and compressors etc. but they have been totally assent from the all in one digital dog market. They have all the prices but they don’t seem to want to put them together.
Here's an idea for UA... A 1space rack mounted outboard gear modeler. Go a step beyond the unison preamps and Apollo DSP, just build their outboard gear plugins into a rack unit. I'd by two.
The Strymon guys are former Line 6 people that went their own way. They might have signed a do not compete clause in their contract when working there.
I agree that digital is the way forward but I would like to see Marshall make an analog mosfet head again similar to the orange super crush and new hiwatt Leeds amps. It could be competitively priced with jfet circuitry. People have been wanting this for years.
10:33 This isn't even scratching the surface of UA's potential goldmine of a product. If they made a floorboard (w/ interface) that can host any/all of their plugins and VSTs, it would be a slam dunk product. Imagine being able to run UA FX algos and amp sims on your guitar, UAD plugins on your vocal mic, and plug in a midi keyboard controller to perform their keys VSTs like Ravel, Opal, Waterfall B3, etc. As a multi-instrumentalist, I'd LOVE to just bring a midi keyboard controller, guitar, and floorboard and host all of my sounds/processing in the floorboard. UA is particularly equipped to deliver a product like this.
What you’ve predicted is what I’ve wanted for a couple of years. If Fender makes a Champ pedal with switches and knobs that you can select what type circuit and speaker. I would replace my Dream 65 with that. Also, I love that Les Paul. I saw it in person at Guitar Center a while back. That’s the one I want. Just don’t got the money for it. Hopefully Epiphone make a good version of one this year.
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The Tonemaster series of amps sound great, but I feel it's too close to the real amps in price for me to consider one. You can build a rig with the UA dream for far less than the price of a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and endup with a simmilar possibly better tone.
I'm genuinely envious that you live in a city with an actual music SCENE, and music stores. The town I live in is the self proclaimed "cultural capital of the state" and the mayor used to flail his arms and screech "WE'RE AN ARTS TOWN!!", and had only one music store. Sam Ash. It closed last year before the Sam Ashargeddon. Anyway, I'm hoping Hamer somehow returns to NAMM. Yeah, it's a long shot, but I'd love the ability to buy one new these days.
I’m pretty sure Marshall has said they don’t want to get in the modeling game because so many others already do it well. I’d like to see more capturing technologies, that’s the most fun to me at least.
I want an all tube Fender USA amp that sounds close to a Vibroking or Super Reverb or Vibrolux at 15-20 watts with power attenuation for half and a quarter wattage with all tube reverb and two 10 inch or one 12 inch speaker with a solid pine cabinet.
Let's give Marshall a little credit for their recent history. The 20w Studio Classics are really, really good. That JCM800 combo rules, and so does the Silver Jubilee head. But they haven't designed a new-feeling amp in 20 years. I'd like to see them do something that competes head-on with the Friedman Smallbox and Fortin Meshuggah, 2-channels where one is a true Plexi and the other is a modern tight metal amp, and I'd like to see some kind of IR support built in.
I hope marshall makes their own qc style version of a pedal, this could be super huge for marhall with all the marshall fanbase and purists there are around! Also it would be a huge ammount of content on differences between the tonemaster , qc and marshall devices
Regarding fender it's because of the models are highly tuned to both of the speaker and the cab they're in and the interactions between those things. If you take the model and put it into a pedal outside of the speaker and the cab The usernow has to do all the tweaking to make it sound good through some other speaker and cab. Thus losing a bit of the appeal of faithfully recreating that experience.
Marshall needs to have low wattage vintage styled (visually too) amps with modded (Jose/friedman) options with good loop and possibly reactive load irs etc. UA needs to update firmware of existing pedals to allow for more onboard presets and remote and or midi switching. They should also add more ox like functionality in the app to swap on different cabs (not fully customizable)from a larger list into the secondary cab banks. A more fully featured multi effects from UA would be great as well, even if it were only delay/reverb/modulation/cabs without amp modeling.
If UA were to do a larger unit containing al it's models, than by not updating their current pedal with midi switching it might help to push people to buy the bigger unit.
I have heard for about a year that marshall was working with fender on a tonemaster series for there amps.. really wont believe it until i see it and this was from one of the guys that leaked the tonemaster pro
Strymon doesn't hate money, quite the opposite!, they don't release a single unit with all their best-of pedals because that'd compete directly with their own more expensive products, every one of their pedals is above 300-400 so in order to have a multiFX Strymon without damaging their own sales they'd have to price it above 1,500 at least, at the level of Fractal higher units
With Gibson screwing the pooch with Mesa Boogie, Marshall has an enormous opportunity to recover that market. You are spot-on that Marshall and Fender have unique opportunities within the modern high end modelling market and that the window is rapidly closing as the existing market players get better and better.
I agree that Marshall will be doing something similar, They are WAY behind the curve on that and the recent Andertons interview with Terry points to some reasons why that is.
Yes, the Fender Tonemaster collection pedals would be enormous surely!? A Marshall Mercury Combo in a pedal (without the hum my old one has) would be good. 🙂 The Strymon Multi-FX....yes, should exist but I don't think it ever will. They're weird.
Strymon iridium blows. They’d be better off with doing a combo of their timeline and big sky than having an amp sim. Maybe the möbius could be updated tho for sure.
Your Marshall idea of a "what if" is a complete no-brainer. A cross between an AC-10 and a 20 watt Lead and Bass on a little 2×10 style stack loaded with a couple of Elac 10N/78's,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!. Take my money right effing' now!.
Love the videos...thank God you're not running an amp or pedal company...lol. The first company to integrate amp software with NAM and plugins will win. Think the ease/quality of Tonocracy software with the performance of Dimehead
It is an interesting juncture guitar gear wise that we are in. Capture tech not really new but certainly making inroads to the guitar masses now. There's still room for new amp tech but they need to let go of the past and learn how to embrace digital and marry it with vintage.
Tone Master Pro is still having issues with presets and scenes. They are way behind on it, their implementation is buggy (massive lag and audio gaps when changing presets in scenes), and they are sticking to a rigid update schedule which is a real turn off.
I like units that offer many amps sound like Amp I or the new Amp X which will be presented by Thomas Blug at Namm-show next week. Small units easy to carry around and - all analog!
The younger generation make playing music and getting your own sound so complicated. I'm old school. I prefer to have a physical 50- or 100-watt amp, a cab with some good quality speakers and some pedals. I love the feeling of the air being pushed from the cabs and making the hair on my body stand up. It's a good feeling. The only modeler I have is a Line 6 M5 stomp box modeler on my board with my other effects.
The problem with Marshall is it takes twenty years for people to realise it’s a classic. Many of their classics today were not rated well when they were originally released. So yeah, can’t really win. But I personally feel Marshall should concentrate on tube amps, with size and weight reduction. Yes, they would probably do well to release something along the lines of the Friedman IR range.
Plus, you have hotone and mooer Releasing interesting things at a lower price in that same market so someone like UA or Marshall or fender are no way gonna think that they would do a multi effects multi amp unit for as cheap as those others They will simply release one if they do and charge over $1000
I disagree on Strymon. I do NOT want everything in a single box. It makes it impossible for them to design a good UX with the knobs and switches that work with all of the options. I even think the Big Sky is almost overkill because they already have to have vague knobs with a "generic" name because it has to be different things for different reverb types.
Stealing business away from the other product lines is a problem for companies like Fender. You see the same thing in the camera business. Canon is notorious for this.
Here’s a 4th prediction… I’ll be avoiding guitar RUclips Namm weekend and avoiding everyone’s shyt “coverage” of it. I can’t handle too much of guitar RUclipsrs walking around a giant conference center on crappy iphone cameras screaming “I’m here at the fender booth” before I just tune out.
You are dead on with Strymon…cannot believe they waited this long. The market would pay top dollar for a Strymon all in one, insanity it doesn’t exist.
Saying "Strymon hates money" has got to be one of the most ridiculously hilarious things I've ever heard in my life.
I like your videos on the market/digital products a lot - you have this stuff engrained in your bones and your understanding of marketing makes this material worth listening to for manufacturers. Hope they do - i agree on many points. I am crossing fingers for a big ToneX pedal with Amplitube effects - that would be a home-run. Just one example - their age-old Uni+Vibe model kills everything else in that department released before or after.
Thanks dude! Yeah I am hoping the “big tonex” is well executed and thought out… it feels like the most anticipated platform that everyone is thinking about!
Tonex 2 will come out sooner or later. The major development for us is the Tonex Cab, which is the platform on which we can compare the captures you guys deliver.
That Greco sounds absolutely fantastic
Thanks dude. I love this guitar! It's got such a comfortable neck!
I think you're correct about UA and what Strymon should have already done. Simple amp knobs are all that is required. Everything else can be plugged into software. What an incredible unit that would be and not cost the farm. Cheers
AMEN!!
Love my fender tone master pro and honestly excited to hear you may support it moving forward!
Thank you for saying that…. I’m not sure if there is interest in it so that is encouraging.
@ I think one of the biggest drivers of interest is the support of channels like you! Love your stuff
Thanks for listening and talking about my idea about UA! I knew I wasn’t the only one thinking about it!
I’m getting some tips that Line 6 Will Be Announcing a new Helix flagship. Notice how GC Is not stocking new ones lately? Synergy has a new SYN-1 coming out as well
Marshall already did a "Fendery-clean with Marshall bark" type amp, back in the 90's. The JTM-30 was a KILLER offering (I have one that survived in awesome condition), and came in single 12" or twin 10" configurations (it also had an emulated XLR output as well which is remarkably good even by today's standards). The one thing that was iffy is the placement of the tubes, because they were horizontal, under part of the PCB, and some had thermal issues. If they took that platform, fixed the tube placement, added some features as you mentioned, it would be an amp that would fit so many players' needs, would be enough to gig with and still be portable, and even the emulated XLR output could be updated to include IR options (like the Fender Tone Masters), for unheard-of flexibility from a Marshall. It would be a win/win, especially if they could offer it for a gigging musician's budget.
Marshall need to release their amps as preamps like the Friedman ir series
YES!
I hear they are working on it as I know their demo guy.
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This. Cut the "lifestyle brand" bullshit and give the real customers what they're actually looking for by their beloved amps into a modeler or into pedal form. It would be the gut-punch they need to stay in the game while they've been allowing everyone to take their lunch for 15+ years. Blackstar (up until the 2010s), Metropoulos, Friedman, etc. Marshall has been a complete joke after the JVM and Vintage Modern, their last objectively good amps.
@@UseTheSupeRsonictotally agree. I’ve recently bought a mini silver jubilee to go with my 100w version. But really I want it in Friedman irx format. In the end I grabbed the Friedman irJ and it’s bloody brilliant
I'm a huge fan of the Marshall sound, but there's always something you'd with it had. Being plate reverb, a little more gain, built in load or IR's, extra master volume to balance the channels etc. It would be great if Marshall split their amps in a classic and Hotrodded/ Modern categorie. Then offer recreations of the classics, but also experiment with hotrodded versions of their amps or with more modern features.
Marshall also needs to take back part of their market share from Friedman, which have had a huge succes with their IR series of pre-amp pedals. If you think about it Marshall also doesnt offer a solid, modeling amp aimed towards beginners.
I saw some Fender verbage on the FR-212 and they mentioned that the amp design imitates the classic backline look. Does that fit in with music venues handling all the sound and saying "no amps"?
Love the Strymon multi idea!! hope they are listening
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Strymon, "win the lotto already" ... lmao...spot on.
Strymon and Chase Bliss are two of the most overrated pedal brands of all-time.
@@UseTheSupeRsonic people really try to justify spending over a grand for a bigsky, timeline, and mobius instead of just buying a HX stomp for those effects
@@SergioEnriquez-v8r Right? Dumbest way to spend all that money. Nobody hears the quality of those effects in a mix. Plus, who of us actually is using all these crazy reverbs so much that they need an 800 dollar single pedal for it?
@@UseTheSupeRsonic i have an iridium, it sounds great. my other pedals are a $100.00 klon and a $30.00 tube screamer.
I’m new to this area in music and getting back into playing. I’ve always had a bad amp and dreamed about a tube amp but so much has gone digital and even if it’s 90% of the way to each sound it’s way easier than having 20 pedals honestly.
Regarding Fender…doesn’t their tone master have pedal buttons so it is a pedal, so I don’t get what you are trying to say they need to do?
I want to see Marshall update the JVM but have a built-in load box and IR capability. And fix some of the notorious issues with the circuit, for example the effects loop.
Those voodoo labs pedal really were amazing. The sparkle drive and the giggity together could shape your amp into about anything vintage voiced you could imagine.
Still underrated!!
Totally agree about strymon. why haven't they done a multi effects device!?
Those mini-humbuckers in your Greco sound absolutely stellar btw!.
Those era of Japanese guitars are incredible.
They are! I love this guitar!!
They should consider this video!! Spot on!!
Side Question: Weren’t the new releases supposed to come out on Tuesday? Is there any update?? (Not picking… just excited!! 😊)
I keep wondering why Marshall doesn’t make their own version of the Tonemaster amps
Were you surprised by the new Tube Amp Expander this morning? Seems like yesterday you were thinking tube amps are dead. I'm pleased to see it.
Loving the Behringer new line of pedals. It's kind of the opposite of digital but again really cool pedals. Great video and nice predictions!
I love my Tone Master Pro so far. I got it in the last month used for a good price. I've used real amps for a long time and it's my first dive into the digital world. I can see Fender doing single amp model pedals and think that'd be a good idea. It'd be cool to buy a single Princeton reverb pedal or with multiple amps similar to the Boss IR-2. I think Fender releases their high end stuff first and see how it sells and then release scaled down versions. It makes me think of how the Fender Meteora was first released as a limited run guitar and is now affordable and produced on a different scale with their player series.
I very much agree, I think we got the big boy unit and now we will get the little brother.
The only 3 things I want to see:
- Return of full size U.S made Way Huge pedals with Tone Leper and Piercing Moose reissues.
- A full size 50 watt, and a 20 watt Studio series reissue of a 1975-1977 voiced Marshall master volume JMP.
- Adrian Emsley coming out with a new medium gain, bright, Plexi voiced amp to replace the discontinued and highly underrated Brent Hinds Terror.
I doubt we’ll see any of these things though.
The problem with Strymon is the price. If they took this idea of the iridium with other effects in one unit it would cost like 5k. Nobody is gonna pay that.
Thanks for mentioning the Giggity. Exactly what I was looking for!
It's such a LEGENDARY pedal.... very under appreciated!
I’m excited to see what’s coming to NAMM this year.
As far as fender stuff and coming from someone who has used a lot of modelers, I love my tone master pro and it has won me over after only using it for a couple weeks and I think it’s going to only get better with time. Fender loses me with guitars though as they get close to what I want spec wise but never quite get there for me.
I have been wishing for a Strymon Multi FX for ages, my guess is there is too much money to be made selecting them separately. At this point my guess is the will reboot the timeline and mobius versions to MX first. A multi FX from Strymon would have to be $2000+ for it to make sense for them based on the 700 price tag on the Bluesky MX. A bit expensive but I would love it as rack mount unit as well.
Yes!!! Marshall is leagues behind in modelers and calling out Fractal was a great shout. Fractal was dominating studio and touring musicians. I am shocked they never found the price point to compete with Line6 and ToneX for the bedroom
It doesn't seem like they want that market, honestly. Which is understandable, the margins aren't great, and they are still dominating studio and touring. Line 6 and tonex are owned by yamaha and fender, which gives them better leverage for volume plays.
I think if they released "fractal native" like helix did, it would slay. But I think Cliff is too paranoid, I don't think he wants people to have access to his software.
The only Tone Master Pro's I've seen being used were during launch by endorsees, but they actually use Quad Cortex or Fractal forrealsies.
There is a pretty sizable ToneMaster pro community across a couple RUclips groups.
It would be cool to see a mini 20 watt JVM…..I am pretty sure it’s the only amp that they do not have in a 20 watt version and it’s their flagship amp
Hey man. I gotta ask something. Why do you have to sell something old if the new version comes out? Genuine respectful question. Not trolling at all. Is that not just straight up consumerism? Like if there’s a new feature you’d always wished something had and it’s added I g RT that. But home much better can the new big sky really make your songs or your gigging experience? The last time I had so have one thing that came out was the Boss MS3. Cause it was the first time multi effects had been combined with loops in a compact size. That’s game changing to me. Upgraded versions of big verbs is great but in no way is it a must have if I already have a big verb pedal
From the same company.
@@TheGuitarEffect hmmm 🤔 I don’t think I was trying to say Strymon should put out upgraded reverbs or new versions of existing pedals. I am hoping they combine there stuff into an all in one unit and maybe add more features…. They have already designed great verbs, delays mods, amp emulations and compressors etc. but they have been totally assent from the all in one digital dog market.
They have all the prices but they don’t seem to want to put them together.
The Synergy stuff looks cool
Here's an idea for UA... A 1space rack mounted outboard gear modeler. Go a step beyond the unison preamps and Apollo DSP, just build their outboard gear plugins into a rack unit. I'd by two.
Dang... I never thought about it, but you're so right about Strymon.
The Strymon guys are former Line 6 people that went their own way. They might have signed a do not compete clause in their contract when working there.
What profile are you playing for the intro?
I agree that digital is the way forward but I would like to see Marshall make an analog mosfet head again similar to the orange super crush and new hiwatt Leeds amps. It could be competitively priced with jfet circuitry. People have been wanting this for years.
We need a new, smaller footprint, updated TC Electronics G System with IR's that will work with all of these new preamp pedals.
Also. Why has NOONE made a competitor to the HX effects?
10:33 This isn't even scratching the surface of UA's potential goldmine of a product.
If they made a floorboard (w/ interface) that can host any/all of their plugins and VSTs, it would be a slam dunk product.
Imagine being able to run UA FX algos and amp sims on your guitar, UAD plugins on your vocal mic, and plug in a midi keyboard controller to perform their keys VSTs like Ravel, Opal, Waterfall B3, etc.
As a multi-instrumentalist, I'd LOVE to just bring a midi keyboard controller, guitar, and floorboard and host all of my sounds/processing in the floorboard. UA is particularly equipped to deliver a product like this.
that would be great but ua are masters of giving customers as little as possible.
Did you watch five watt world about the les paul deluxe just before making this video ? Or was it just coincidence?
@@gabrielmesquita I actually shoot these out of order so I saw it right after I edited this. Just a coincidence.
that sounds great, what are you playing thru?
Kemper… I think it’s the new DMBL PACK that comes out tomorrow.
What you’ve predicted is what I’ve wanted for a couple of years. If Fender makes a Champ pedal with switches and knobs that you can select what type circuit and speaker. I would replace my Dream 65 with that.
Also, I love that Les Paul. I saw it in person at Guitar Center a while back. That’s the one I want. Just don’t got the money for it. Hopefully Epiphone make a good version of one this year.
I’d buy it too. This LP is a mid 80s Greco, check those out…. They are killer!
@ never heard of them but I’ll check them out.
Off topic, but what is that tone you used at the start of the video, it's lovely
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Fender Tone Workstation...?
The Tonemaster series of amps sound great, but I feel it's too close to the real amps in price for me to consider one. You can build a rig with the UA dream for far less than the price of a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and endup with a simmilar possibly better tone.
I am heading to NAMM next week and I don’t see UA listed under exhibitors on the app.
For the past few years they have skipped the show and instead done their own event with some influencers and announced new products on NAMM week.
I'm genuinely envious that you live in a city with an actual music SCENE, and music stores. The town I live in is the self proclaimed "cultural capital of the state" and the mayor used to flail his arms and screech "WE'RE AN ARTS TOWN!!", and had only one music store. Sam Ash. It closed last year before the Sam Ashargeddon.
Anyway, I'm hoping Hamer somehow returns to NAMM. Yeah, it's a long shot, but I'd love the ability to buy one new these days.
sounds like this music scene convo should be discussed on the next Guitar Friends episode!
@@bevans12 Oh, I have some thoughts about that!
I’m pretty sure Marshall has said they don’t want to get in the modeling game because so many others already do it well. I’d like to see more capturing technologies, that’s the most fun to me at least.
I will be waiting for the Fender Amp Pedals. I want a Super Reverb like that.
I want an all tube Fender USA amp that sounds close to a Vibroking or Super Reverb or Vibrolux at 15-20 watts with power attenuation for half and a quarter wattage with all tube reverb and two 10 inch or one 12 inch speaker with a solid pine cabinet.
Let's give Marshall a little credit for their recent history. The 20w Studio Classics are really, really good. That JCM800 combo rules, and so does the Silver Jubilee head. But they haven't designed a new-feeling amp in 20 years. I'd like to see them do something that competes head-on with the Friedman Smallbox and Fortin Meshuggah, 2-channels where one is a true Plexi and the other is a modern tight metal amp, and I'd like to see some kind of IR support built in.
I hope marshall makes their own qc style version of a pedal, this could be super huge for marhall with all the marshall fanbase and purists there are around! Also it would be a huge ammount of content on differences between the tonemaster , qc and marshall devices
Regarding fender it's because of the models are highly tuned to both of the speaker and the cab they're in and the interactions between those things. If you take the model and put it into a pedal outside of the speaker and the cab The usernow has to do all the tweaking to make it sound good through some other speaker and cab. Thus losing a bit of the appeal of faithfully recreating that experience.
Marshall needs to have low wattage vintage styled (visually too) amps with modded (Jose/friedman) options with good loop and possibly reactive load irs etc.
UA needs to update firmware of existing pedals to allow for more onboard presets and remote and or midi switching. They should also add more ox like functionality in the app to swap on different cabs (not fully customizable)from a larger list into the secondary cab banks.
A more fully featured multi effects from UA would be great as well, even if it were only delay/reverb/modulation/cabs without amp modeling.
If UA were to do a larger unit containing al it's models, than by not updating their current pedal with midi switching it might help to push people to buy the bigger unit.
I have heard for about a year that marshall was working with fender on a tonemaster series for there amps.. really wont believe it until i see it and this was from one of the guys that leaked the tonemaster pro
Strymon doesn't hate money, quite the opposite!, they don't release a single unit with all their best-of pedals because that'd compete directly with their own more expensive products, every one of their pedals is above 300-400 so in order to have a multiFX Strymon without damaging their own sales they'd have to price it above 1,500 at least, at the level of Fractal higher units
With Gibson screwing the pooch with Mesa Boogie, Marshall has an enormous opportunity to recover that market. You are spot-on that Marshall and Fender have unique opportunities within the modern high end modelling market and that the window is rapidly closing as the existing market players get better and better.
Origin - Give me a revivaldrive compact with an ir loader and I’d immediately buy it. Same with their other amp pedals.
What about sharing presets for UAD pedals?
That does seem like something that may be coming.
If Marshall makes a lunchbox sized super lead plexi that I can crank it line out level and get that sound I am going to own it immediately
Please get a Tonemaster Pro! I will purchase your preset packs for sure!
SPOT ON with UA and Strymon. Like, cannot even believe it isn’t out yet.
I got distracted by that guitar. Nice. There are a couple of Greco for sale local but lower spec ones.
Love Deluxes.
I got lucky with this one... it's a killer guitar. Most Greeks from this era seem to have really good bones.
I agree that Marshall will be doing something similar, They are WAY behind the curve on that and the recent Andertons interview with Terry points to some reasons why that is.
Interesting, I’ll have to check that out.
This dude is talking like marshall can just snap their fingers and come up with an amazing modeler product... doubtful.
Yes, the Fender Tonemaster collection pedals would be enormous surely!?
A Marshall Mercury Combo in a pedal (without the hum my old one has) would be good. 🙂
The Strymon Multi-FX....yes, should exist but I don't think it ever will. They're weird.
Strymon iridium blows. They’d be better off with doing a combo of their timeline and big sky than having an amp sim. Maybe the möbius could be updated tho for sure.
The only time music stores actually sell tube amps these days is once a year when they have their annual sale and sell them at close to cost price.
The Marshall sv20 is fire
Your Marshall idea of a "what if" is a complete no-brainer.
A cross between an AC-10 and a 20 watt Lead and Bass on a little 2×10 style stack loaded with a couple of Elac 10N/78's,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what!.
Take my money right effing' now!.
You got it - Simple, simple, simple. I shouldn't need a degree in electrical engineering to run these boxes.
Love the videos...thank God you're not running an amp or pedal company...lol. The first company to integrate amp software with NAM and plugins will win. Think the ease/quality of Tonocracy software with the performance of Dimehead
It is an interesting juncture guitar gear wise that we are in. Capture tech not really new but certainly making inroads to the guitar masses now. There's still room for new amp tech but they need to let go of the past and learn how to embrace digital and marry it with vintage.
Capture might not be new, but good quality capture is new.
Tone Master Pro is still having issues with presets and scenes. They are way behind on it, their implementation is buggy (massive lag and audio gaps when changing presets in scenes), and they are sticking to a rigid update schedule which is a real turn off.
I like units that offer many amps sound like Amp I or the new Amp X which will be presented by Thomas Blug at Namm-show next week. Small units easy to carry around and - all analog!
All analog with a class D Poweramp?
UA needs to get their software together for their boxes. Its always the weak link. OX box included.
I would love Marshall to release a 50W JCM800. But they will continue to push their Studio line I guess..
The younger generation make playing music and getting your own sound so complicated. I'm old school. I prefer to have a physical 50- or 100-watt amp, a cab with some good quality speakers and some pedals. I love the feeling of the air being pushed from the cabs and making the hair on my body stand up. It's a good feeling. The only modeler I have is a Line 6 M5 stomp box modeler on my board with my other effects.
Amps are FUN!
Oh that Greco is giving me life.
I guess you forgot their Studio 20w series amps ,Marshall just saying
The problem with Marshall is it takes twenty years for people to realise it’s a classic. Many of their classics today were not rated well when they were originally released. So yeah, can’t really win. But I personally feel Marshall should concentrate on tube amps, with size and weight reduction. Yes, they would probably do well to release something along the lines of the Friedman IR range.
I agree Strymon!!!
Plus, you have hotone and mooer Releasing interesting things at a lower price in that same market so someone like UA or Marshall or fender are no way gonna think that they would do a multi effects multi amp unit for as cheap as those others
They will simply release one if they do and charge over $1000
All I heard in this Video is Greco!! That guitar got my Attention! Beautiful
HAHA, maybe I'll play this more... people seem to be digging it!
I'm curious about the Poly Ample
Yeah, only thing that confused me is.... isn't it kind of a closed system? like you can't load your own stuff?
@ToneJunkieTV it makes my life easy that way. I have option paralysis. UA is simple enough for me, you can make a pedal board around them.
That’s a beautiful Goldtop !
Thanks man its a mid 80's greco LP Deluxe
Do you think Vox is ever going to release their new HW line?
No idea, they made a big deal of it last year and it’s no where to be found I guess. If they are there I’ll ask them about it.
I’d love to get your opinion on the AC15 if it exists!
I love some of your ideas. Marshall should hire you.
I agree on the strymon thing
I disagree on Strymon. I do NOT want everything in a single box. It makes it impossible for them to design a good UX with the knobs and switches that work with all of the options. I even think the Big Sky is almost overkill because they already have to have vague knobs with a "generic" name because it has to be different things for different reverb types.
Stealing business away from the other product lines is a problem for companies like Fender. You see the same thing in the camera business. Canon is notorious for this.
Simplified JVM pedal amp or even just preamp ala Friedman IR style would KILL.
I think Marshall has to put there name on something pedalboard friendly... It seems like such a missed opportunity!
@@ToneJunkieTV my suggestion is admittedly a lean towards my amp tastes but your thoughts would be a hit I'd think to the vintage guys.
Yeah, bring back the Marshall Code! Give the people what they want! ;)
Lol i was just thinking about this.
Love the predictions.. But my dude... that coffee is DEFINITELY the wrong color 😂
Haha, sometimes my wife makes it and she puts a ton of cream. I say a splash and she puts a shot!!
Liked and commented. We got there. Too busy to actually stay ❤
Hey Dude!!!
Good discussion, fun stuff.
Here’s a 4th prediction… I’ll be avoiding guitar RUclips Namm weekend and avoiding everyone’s shyt “coverage” of it. I can’t handle too much of guitar RUclipsrs walking around a giant conference center on crappy iphone cameras screaming “I’m here at the fender booth” before I just tune out.
I’ll try to do my best to not be that guy. Thanks for the feedback!
You are dead on with Strymon…cannot believe they waited this long. The market would pay top dollar for a Strymon all in one, insanity it doesn’t exist.