@@tcincali9642your telling me a dude who cares about his horse and doesn’t even want to play basketball half the time won 3 MVPS and they says some shit like cooper Flagg could never
@@soupking5392 dunks weren’t aloud in the nba until dr. J kept getting in trouble for fancy dunks. U can say the same thing ab 3s woulda evolved anyway w curry
@@ArthPedro it’s sad when someone actually puts in the hours of research that you don’t want to and shows you the information and you still say he’s wrong . Stop being stubborn old man
@@ArthPedroYou've said this, and "fake stats" in another comment Go ahead, make an exposee. I'll watch it. Or provide proof for your claims. Jimmy: proof. 1 You: unsupported claims. 0
Don't forget Steve Kerr was a 3-point shooter. So when he became Coach of the GSW he gave Curry the green light. Kerr gets to live his dream through Curry. He prolly wished that he could have shot as much as he wanted back in the day. But coaches were not allowing it. Even Reggie Miller didn't just shoot 3s like crazy because coaches didn't allow it.
@@ArthPedrothere is no more defense stop lying and zone defense will do nothing bro stop hating for nothing the rule of now are practically for the offense and let nothing on defense do when you watch the game of today there is no way you said that there is better defense when the offense got better skill wise but the defense can’t do nothing no hand checking foul for nothing
@@TheIcemanthomas you crazy if you think people who didn't grow up in rose don't realize how crazy he was. And considering he won a league mvp you have to be stupid to say he wasn't arguably the best player in the league at one point. Don't get upset thinking I'm saying he was the best player ever lol. But there was a 2 year stretch where D rose was hands down the most exciting player to watch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
D-Rose was more exciting to watch, but he in all aspects wasn't a better PG than CP3 was. I can tell you what CP3 would be if he had D-Rose's athleticism, but I can also tell you what D-Rose would be if he had CP3's athleticism.
i do think players now are just better as athletes in all sports have evolved, but the 90s def isn’t as bad as people are making it seem😭a lot of players then would still be good today especially if they adapted to the game
PLEASE people, watch 24:23 to 25:18 THAT RIGHT THERE is the key to all conversations about basketball since the beginning. No one saw Kareem, Oscar or Jordan's records being beaten. Meanwhile, there's still records by Wilt that seem unreachable and possibly are unreachable. That timestamp is a prime example of why you have to respect the eras that came before this one. Pretty soon you'll be an older man with an opinion just like Agent.
Tbh I'm going to say best times was 1990s to 2005 , had great players playing more great players in different eras and then some. PLUS the play style was more rough then it is these days.
a player like John starks would fit in perfectly.. good passer, all 3 pointers or hard drives to the basket.. the only problem he would have would be his intensity. but back then scouting report on him was all 3 pointers and drives with no in between game.. JUST like todays players
That chart is one of MANY where Jordan will stand alone against past and present players. I too believe the NBA is more skilled today. However JORDAN? MUST be protected and understood how good he was. It is absolutely insane how good he was.
The game has evolved like it was supposed to therefore the talent has gotten better. Its literally as simple as that, older people just love to use the “if they took as many shots”,” if they can dribble as much” to many hypotheticals to make the claims that their players were better.
To me the 2000s was when sports actually got really competitive and professional but without the legendary goats from back then we wouldn't have the foat talk thanks to all the goats
The talent in the NBA always makes a jump after a major jump in popularity. The 70s had a jump following the popularity of Wilt V Russell matchups. Same with 90s after Magic V Bird. Jordan and the Dream Team caused another jump, which led to the 2000s spike. The Warriors 72 game run caused the spike we see now.
The irony of your plan to stop Shaq if he played in this era, by bringing in players just to hack him, is you'd be going back to 80's-90's basketball where you had guys on teams explicitly for the purposes of being big, playing physical on defense and hacking certain guys to try to stop them.
My take is, Global talent was being brought in after the internet became a thing, and people were able to see videos of people perform from around the world. That's why we saw an influx of amazing talent
kobe made being trash not cool with the effort he put in after he played trash his 1st couple NBA seasons, which is why kobe is the best of all time to me. He changed the dynamics of the game and made it better of course jordan did it first, I just feel kobe was more impactful to me.
It's like putting trae young in the 80s and the refs call EVERY violation in the book Then put Larry Bird in the 2020s he's gonna be moving like a jv player getting clamped up 9/10 times
Hands would be on Trae Young forcing him to play with back to the basket and he doesn't know how. If he drives to the hoop too much they will just flagrant foul him, which would just be a regular foul in the 80's. He would average 10 points. Larry bird would average 35+. Deadly 3 point shooter, clutch, deadly in the post, awesome passer. How would this weak defensive era stop him at 6'9"?
larry bird would cook in this era. the current best player in the nba is a slow plodding white guy that can't jump and is as slow as a snail in nikola jokic. bird was more athletic than nash and dirk what makes you think he would'nt be able to compete. doncic isnt even fast but be cooking these dudes.
People only watch nba nowadays to see if their parlay hits, the games are usually garbage to watch and theres barely any competition until the playoffs
Pace is a huge factor in the points, assists, and rebounds. 90's basketball was very slow as well, compared to the 2000 and beyond. So, those mike numbers would probably be better IMO
I don't think brons records are getting beat in our lifetime tbh... especially when you see how far back the best young players are behind lebron when he was their age ..crazy
It will just like the game has evolved to the three-point shot. I’m pretty sure they’re gonna add an additional point at sometime. They’ve already been talking about a four-point spot so let’s say 20 years from now there’ll be a four-point spot out there.
@@Stiles750 and how old will Luka and them even wemby be 20 years from now...we waited 40 years for someone to break Kareem's record ..and he's doing setting it further in a way that has never been done before...no ones ever put up as many points in year 21 as bron... Infact he has more points than all year 21 players combined... One would need to come out of highschool and dominate from pretty much year 1 to beat it...
@@Stiles750 also more importantly and in addition to getting into the league at highschool. That person would pretty much need to stay healthy his whole career
Larry Bird just used the three pointer as a dagger in the 4th quarter. When they started the three point contest Bird won three in a row. In his very first contest in the final round he just 23 of 33 three pointers. That's 73%. They didn't even introduce the three point line until birds rookie season in 1979. How well do you think players of today would do with a 4 point line if they just started it. That and the old rules are exactly why you can't compare different eras. That doesn't mean they were trash. I like all the eras . I recognize talent and greatness. I grew up in the 60s 70s and saw bird come on the scene. Started watching him when I was in high school when he played his college games he was amazing and great playing in any era. Luka reminds me of Bird a lot. Magic and Bird saved the NBA. I'm watching the youngsters coming up now like the boozer, twins, Cooper Flagg and many more. I think we have to appreciate basketball for what it brings.
Exactly....there was a window of just a few days until this "No left MJ" crap came out. People do this, as if the whole world didn't watch MJ play extensively
bro needed context for that pete clip… that was a grip warm up and he is the reason i broke so many other kids ankles back in the day… og youtube clips of him he was basically my coach bruh
Shaq would be great if he could hit FTs and work on shots about 10-15 ft away from the basket. Also, it will take a certain coach to use him correctly in this run and gun league.
Elgin Baylor, Bob Petit, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain and many more of that time are all cooking Duke Agent is delusional 😂
Shaq had great work ethic ofc he could and he would have a jumper. His jumper now at his old age is better than we seen in the NBA and thats just putting in work 😌
Kids in 2040 will say LeBron played against podcasters 😭😭
crazy thing is it’s true😂
"You're telling me Luka was moving at half speed and dropped a 60 point triple double? Your Era was TRASH unc."
Jokic wasn’t athletic and was dropping triple doubles on DoorDash delivery men
@@tcincali9642your telling me a dude who cares about his horse and doesn’t even want to play basketball half the time won 3 MVPS and they says some shit like cooper Flagg could never
No need I'll say it now Lebron plays against tiktockers and podcasters
nobody talks about how dr. j also paved the way for people like mj's style of play also. dr. j is the reason we have stylish dunks
Dunks wouldve evolved either way … But yea Dr. J sick
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@@soupking5392 dunks weren’t aloud in the nba until dr. J kept getting in trouble for fancy dunks. U can say the same thing ab 3s woulda evolved anyway w curry
@@gd_vaperz5218 Yea they wouldve evolved eventually. Dr J is a goat though
@@gd_vaperz5218 And your right and id agree with you thanks for agreeing with me
Jimmy single handedly saved the 90s 😭
Saved it from what ☠️bruh in 15 years when people shit on Jokic and Curry it’s gonna be hilarious to see how this generation gon look smfh
Definitely didn't lmfao bro said 80s would be fine in todays league 💀
@PyroPuffs777 good thing that won't happen until I'm already dead and gone, this won't happen period until the league is full of 7'7" wembys
Wild that idiots thought the 90s was at risk from low lights and no context
@oneautumnleaff2119 and they would. Mid range scores would be very valuable in today's game considering how open the mid range is
At this point jimmy is the only media outlet that does actual research shows you the research and talks unbias
don’t forget kenny too
He literally says something absurdly wrong every video, but since yall agree yall don't care anyway
@@ArthPedro yeah we agree with the research and facts
@@ArthPedro it’s sad when someone actually puts in the hours of research that you don’t want to and shows you the information and you still say he’s wrong . Stop being stubborn old man
@@ArthPedroYou've said this, and "fake stats" in another comment
Go ahead, make an exposee. I'll watch it. Or provide proof for your claims.
Jimmy: proof. 1
You: unsupported claims. 0
21:16 No matter who ruined it, T-Mac and VC still cousins at the end of the day and laugh about it at "family reunions" 😂
Don't forget Steve Kerr was a 3-point shooter. So when he became Coach of the GSW he gave Curry the green light. Kerr gets to live his dream through Curry. He prolly wished that he could have shot as much as he wanted back in the day. But coaches were not allowing it. Even Reggie Miller didn't just shoot 3s like crazy because coaches didn't allow it.
No one will ever get the 10 scoring title record. That shit is solidified in concrete
Ye we got more competition nowadays and Zone Defense, so you can't get 10 scoring titles
@@ArthPedrothere is no more defense stop lying and zone defense will do nothing bro stop hating for nothing the rule of now are practically for the offense and let nothing on defense do when you watch the game of today there is no way you said that there is better defense when the offense got better skill wise but the defense can’t do nothing no hand checking foul for nothing
Facts!!!! 💯
@@rtx9430 Real zone defense doesn't even exist in the NBA because of the three second rule anyway.
@ArthPedro Always gotta make an excuse like that, lol. Competition has never changed.
I watched a comp of Larry Bird passing and that dude was 🔥
That’s crazy in 20-30 years people will talk about we done with the 2010s and 2020s
I feel like even in the 80s when the talent was weaker agent would still get cooked idk who he thinks he is
Before then too. if dudes ain’t even play any type of college ball let alone hs they can’t compete with any nba player. Agent is just silly
@@cartierhendrixa top 5 hs player now is a top 5 player in 70s-80s
@@cartierhendrixhe’s like 5’10 with no jump shot all he does is post moves, he’s getting cooked in every era lol
Agent averaging 20 points a game in the 80s
@@2klkgaming812Brian scalibrine killed a bunch of hs kids just stop it
I said a week and a half ago that Michael Jordan not having a left hand is the biggest myth in history
You crazy as hell
Not even a myth a straight lie
@@krces1 so you failed to watch the video
Derek rose is a prime example of players that people forget was an absolute monster and arguably the best in the league at one point.
Rose was a beast. But no one forgets how great he was and no there was no point where he was remotely the best player in the league. One of maybe.
@@TheIcemanthomas you crazy if you think people who didn't grow up in rose don't realize how crazy he was. And considering he won a league mvp you have to be stupid to say he wasn't arguably the best player in the league at one point. Don't get upset thinking I'm saying he was the best player ever lol. But there was a 2 year stretch where D rose was hands down the most exciting player to watch. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
@@TheIcemanthomasso his mvp season just dosnt exist😂😂
@@TheIcemanthomasterrible take.
D-Rose was more exciting to watch, but he in all aspects wasn't a better PG than CP3 was. I can tell you what CP3 would be if he had D-Rose's athleticism, but I can also tell you what D-Rose would be if he had CP3's athleticism.
If kids today went back and watched game 7 of the 2010 finals they’d say Kobe and the big 3 Celtics were trash I’m not ready for that day
I think you mean 2010
Kobe went to 3 straight finals.....lost to the Celtics in 08 eon against orlando in 09 and won against the celtics 10
same with the 2016 game 7 finals. There's 3min stretch of just bricks and turnovers and both teams shot horribly somthing like 36%
The 08 finals didn’t have a game 7
And my goat Jordan still stands tall
Factual📠
😂
Right! Jordan is the criteria and standard for greatness. That’s why the league continues to compare every player to him. 🐐💯👌🏽
@@puncho8799GAWK GAWK
@@topkidproject That’s what you do when you see LeBron👌🏽
i do think players now are just better as athletes in all sports have evolved, but the 90s def isn’t as bad as people are making it seem😭a lot of players then would still be good today especially if they adapted to the game
PLEASE people, watch 24:23 to 25:18
THAT RIGHT THERE is the key to all conversations about basketball since the beginning.
No one saw Kareem, Oscar or Jordan's records being beaten. Meanwhile, there's still records by Wilt that seem unreachable and possibly are unreachable.
That timestamp is a prime example of why you have to respect the eras that came before this one. Pretty soon you'll be an older man with an opinion just like Agent.
Shaq will still be dominating the league no kap
thats like saying spud Webb would dominate in kindergarten
I need a 2019 suns player to have a podcast and talk about that train story
Tbh I'm going to say best times was 1990s to 2005 , had great players playing more great players in different eras and then some. PLUS the play style was more rough then it is these days.
Agent has a villain’s laugh
a player like John starks would fit in perfectly.. good passer, all 3 pointers or hard drives to the basket.. the only problem he would have would be his intensity. but back then scouting report on him was all 3 pointers and drives with no in between game.. JUST like todays players
That chart is one of MANY where Jordan will stand alone against past and present players. I too believe the NBA is more skilled today. However JORDAN? MUST be protected and understood how good he was. It is absolutely insane how good he was.
Facts!!!! 🐐💯👌🏽
The best
Agent said he’ll hack a shaq like they didn’t try😂
Big difference between not being able to do what we see players do today, and not being allowed to do what players do today.
agent the new flight when it comes to the reacting aspect of youtube i fw it
W post agent you honestly got the best reactions ion even watch the original vids just your reactions😂
The funny thing is, i can make an hr long comp video of modern plays doing things just as bad or worse.
Shaq’tin a fool.
At least defenders don’t give 12’ of space and foul after they already got beat
no 90s are worse fym
All i gotta say i. Kobe shown what mj could do against modern players 😂
Coming from a 16 year old I keep telling people this😂
And Jordan was better and more athletic.
bruh at 7:20 agent is literally indirectly talking about what happens today with 90s basketball
90s to 2000s might be the two Best Eras
If AMP got dropped off in 1946. I don’t think 6 black guys making it to halftime 😂
@10:13 that's a famous drill you learned as a kid and still taught till this day.
ranting on the taking over ads had me 😂agent crazy
"Whatever Jimmy says goes"
You earned a sub
People act like steph dont air ball or hit the side of backboards
Not Like Them Niggas In The 90's 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 min into the 1993 game 4 of bulls vs suns where mj drops 55 . YOU CANNOT TELL ME WE NOT DONE WITH THE 90s .
That was a good game fuck you on? Jordan had 55 and a game winner in the FINALS
Shut up
Jordan 🐐💯👌🏽
Explaining Jokic is gonna be hilarious 😂😂💀
I had to exit and go to Jimmy's video after the Jarret Allen comment
Crazy how in the past 39 years since Mike's rookie season lebron has played 21 of those 39
:39 was my Great uncle holding the ball Rest up unc legend 🤲🏽
This definitely explains why "Over the Back" calls just seemed to disappear, for the sake of put back dunks. Makes sense.
The game has evolved like it was supposed to therefore the talent has gotten better. Its literally as simple as that, older people just love to use the “if they took as many shots”,” if they can dribble as much” to many hypotheticals to make the claims that their players were better.
All of your videos are amazing with 2x speed
Never forget..... Will Ferell invented the Alley Oop!
To me the 2000s was when sports actually got really competitive and professional but without the legendary goats from back then we wouldn't have the foat talk thanks to all the goats
He's absolutely right we just have to love the 90's in a different way
The talent in the NBA always makes a jump after a major jump in popularity. The 70s had a jump following the popularity of Wilt V Russell matchups. Same with 90s after Magic V Bird. Jordan and the Dream Team caused another jump, which led to the 2000s spike. The Warriors 72 game run caused the spike we see now.
Lefraud Whimes
On that shot chart if you notice the midrange players are at the top.
Bruh we give any of the big names like MJ acknowledge of todays game they dominating 💯
jimmy is such a good channe
That guy put together a really good video
You can Google Lebron's career iso stats,his year by year iso shot percentage is consistently below 40%
Exactly!!!!
U need to do more of jimmy vids!! Shii was tough!!!!
The irony of your plan to stop Shaq if he played in this era, by bringing in players just to hack him, is you'd be going back to 80's-90's basketball where you had guys on teams explicitly for the purposes of being big, playing physical on defense and hacking certain guys to try to stop them.
we done with the 20s NBA sleep
Shaq in his prime would dominate so much they would have to change the rules like they did for Howard
My take is, Global talent was being brought in after the internet became a thing, and people were able to see videos of people perform from around the world. That's why we saw an influx of amazing talent
kobe made being trash not cool with the effort he put in after he played trash his 1st couple NBA seasons, which is why kobe is the best of all time to me. He changed the dynamics of the game and made it better of course jordan did it first, I just feel kobe was more impactful to me.
It's like putting trae young in the 80s and the refs call EVERY violation in the book
Then put Larry Bird in the 2020s he's gonna be moving like a jv player getting clamped up 9/10 times
Hands would be on Trae Young forcing him to play with back to the basket and he doesn't know how. If he drives to the hoop too much they will just flagrant foul him, which would just be a regular foul in the 80's. He would average 10 points.
Larry bird would average 35+. Deadly 3 point shooter, clutch, deadly in the post, awesome passer. How would this weak defensive era stop him at 6'9"?
larry bird played a whole game with his left hand… he’s definitely not gettin clamped
Larry Bird delivered 47-point triple-double while playing with his left hand. More skilled back then.
Bird you’d play like jokic or Luka
larry bird would cook in this era. the current best player in the nba is a slow plodding white guy that can't jump and is as slow as a snail in nikola jokic. bird was more athletic than nash and dirk what makes you think he would'nt be able to compete. doncic isnt even fast but be cooking these dudes.
People only watch nba nowadays to see if their parlay hits, the games are usually garbage to watch and theres barely any competition until the playoffs
boy ain't no way boy
That pass in the beginning of the vid that made agent laugh was probably thrown by Manute Bol.
Hands down the GOAT !
4:26 Michael Jordan, last shot as a Chicago Bull, OWNS THE RECORD FOR MOST VIEWERSHIP IN MBA HISTORY
20:26 Shaq n Penny a garbanzo
Now run that direct deposit 😂
He lost me when he said Lebron is the greater player of all time fuck outta here MJ accomplished more in 13 years than he did in 21 💀
That’s a fucking lie and you know it
Jordan is the greatest player of all time. No one plays defense my knicks just scored 145 points in a game.
jimmy blew out the fire with only 1 video😅
Calling Wardell a raptor is nasty work 😭
Pace is a huge factor in the points, assists, and rebounds. 90's basketball was very slow as well, compared to the 2000 and beyond. So, those mike numbers would probably be better IMO
Bro great offense beats great defense every time.
23:17 they already did that Agent😂😂 more physical players than we have now and Shaq ran through them PAUSEEEEEE
Jimmy COOKED
Mj might just be dejounte murray with good signature shoes
I don't think brons records are getting beat in our lifetime tbh... especially when you see how far back the best young players are behind lebron when he was their age ..crazy
It will just like the game has evolved to the three-point shot. I’m pretty sure they’re gonna add an additional point at sometime. They’ve already been talking about a four-point spot so let’s say 20 years from now there’ll be a four-point spot out there.
@@Stiles750 and how old will Luka and them even wemby be 20 years from now...we waited 40 years for someone to break Kareem's record ..and he's doing setting it further in a way that has never been done before...no ones ever put up as many points in year 21 as bron... Infact he has more points than all year 21 players combined... One would need to come out of highschool and dominate from pretty much year 1 to beat it...
@@Stiles750 also more importantly and in addition to getting into the league at highschool. That person would pretty much need to stay healthy his whole career
@@MCGZay I don’t know how long it’s gonna take, but it’s going to happen because records are meant to be broken maybe 50-100 years 🤷🏽♂️
@@puncho8799 there's a reason why i said in our life time
Been waiting for the reaction of the day
Larry Bird just used the three pointer as a dagger in the 4th quarter. When they started the three point contest Bird won three in a row. In his very first contest in the final round he just 23 of 33 three pointers. That's 73%. They didn't even introduce the three point line until birds rookie season in 1979. How well do you think players of today would do with a 4 point line if they just started it. That and the old rules are exactly why you can't compare different eras. That doesn't mean they were trash. I like all the eras . I recognize talent and greatness. I grew up in the 60s 70s and saw bird come on the scene. Started watching him when I was in high school when he played his college games he was amazing and great playing in any era. Luka reminds me of Bird a lot. Magic and Bird saved the NBA.
I'm watching the youngsters coming up now like the boozer, twins, Cooper Flagg and many more. I think we have to appreciate basketball for what it brings.
Late 80s till Kobe Era have player positions nowadays only three points shooter this is killing the games with no def 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Jimmy is the expert
Done with the 90s and other absurd claims are just a distraction from Lebron's alleged use of PEDs as insinuated by KG. The timing is impeccable.
Exactly....there was a window of just a few days until this "No left MJ" crap came out.
People do this, as if the whole world didn't watch MJ play extensively
Why did me and Agent say Westbrook at the same time, I'm dead😂
This dude okay? Agent was wildin this video
bro needed context for that pete clip… that was a grip warm up and he is the reason i broke so many other kids ankles back in the day… og youtube clips of him he was basically my coach bruh
You cannot make a game much easier and then hype player's supposed skills.
I think i get where hes going and my opinion is also "idk if the peak is higher but the valley is"
9:52 agent man get yo head out the gutter😂😂😂
A great video and very good points but with the mj thing, a shot chart does not mean you dribbled with said hand, it just clarifies where you shot at.
So everything after that part ain’t really feel that valid to me 😂
Lebron be dunking
If you didn't watch the nba classics replay on nba tv channel during post-season, you're not an nba fan im sorry
Shaq would be great if he could hit FTs and work on shots about 10-15 ft away from the basket. Also, it will take a certain coach to use him correctly in this run and gun league.
Chill agent !! THIS HAS ME DYING HESSSI WAS MAAAAD🤣
Elgin Baylor, Bob Petit, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain and many more of that time are all cooking Duke Agent is delusional 😂
Shaq & Luka!
I love how ppl could call an nba player trash but could nvr even play the worst nba player ina real game😂🤣
Shaq had great work ethic ofc he could and he would have a jumper. His jumper now at his old age is better than we seen in the NBA and thats just putting in work 😌
9:52 hand speed drill
Agent talking like amp athletics aren’t depending on duke 😭😭😭😭😭
shaq is unstoppable regardless. they tried that hack a shaq back in the day and shaq still won
Wish jimmy would do a video on why everyone seems to despise the WNBA
Even Draymond Green said Curry record wont last long. He was just the first to do it. 30 years from now everyone will be doing.
You can't just foul Shaq. They literally have a rule named hack-a-shaq. You can foul him during a basketball play but you can't just hack him.