What Does John Danaher REALLY Think About The SMOTHER TAP?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • John Danaher breaks down why his students have found such success with the smother tap.
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Комментарии • 167

  • @jiujudo1307
    @jiujudo1307 11 месяцев назад +201

    Erik Paulson's was doing this choke 30 years ago. He called it "Mothers Milk."

    • @BigBoss877
      @BigBoss877 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeppppp

    • @dirtkills
      @dirtkills 11 месяцев назад +26

      Eddies gonna call it the motorboat in the 10p encyclopedia

    • @samuelemeryjiujitsu
      @samuelemeryjiujitsu 11 месяцев назад +14

      It's still the mothers milk

    • @AmericanJohnGrass
      @AmericanJohnGrass 11 месяцев назад +1

      Did it to me at a seminar

    • @uncircumcisedcircus
      @uncircumcisedcircus 11 месяцев назад +7

      He also was the first person to put out Full no gi instructionals and heel hooks.

  • @michaelfavata2720
    @michaelfavata2720 11 месяцев назад +93

    "Let's get a few things straight. Smothering someone--asphyxiating someone--it's not for everyone" hits different out of context. My true crime loving gf came straight over looking to hear a serial killer talk about his methods 😂

  • @Abettergrappler
    @Abettergrappler 10 месяцев назад +37

    The "Mother's Milk" is a perfect blend of EPO and Tren. Use the EPO to tire your opponent out and the size gain of Tren to cut off all oxygen routes.

    • @lemonjoose3624
      @lemonjoose3624 10 месяцев назад

      lmfao

    • @tatecomedy
      @tatecomedy 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you this is truly inspirational

    • @Sheahova
      @Sheahova 4 месяца назад

      them pecks get real good at smothering on gear

  • @LIONTAMER3D
    @LIONTAMER3D 10 месяцев назад +33

    John Danaher: "breathing is essential to jiujitsu & denying your opponent air to breathe greatly diminishes their ability to grapple..."

  • @mmadmbjm
    @mmadmbjm 10 месяцев назад +2

    John Danaher speaks with such clarity.😊

  • @Micky_pearce
    @Micky_pearce 11 месяцев назад +9

    This man is an absolute pioneer genius of BJJ, and I’d like to thank him for his service to the sport ❤

  • @k0nsama
    @k0nsama 11 месяцев назад +25

    when the rash guard is sweaty it's a waterboarding baby

    • @guapybalboa1927
      @guapybalboa1927 11 месяцев назад +8

      Its fucking terrible, I got put in this friday twice. One persons rash guard completely covrred my mouth and nose like a wet plastic bag and the second dripped warm sweat in my mouth like a faucet

    • @kasperfesselmller4028
      @kasperfesselmller4028 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yummy

    • @awerawer0708
      @awerawer0708 4 месяца назад

      @@guapybalboa1927 reading this made me gag man LMAO

    • @lastmanstanding5423
      @lastmanstanding5423 4 месяца назад

      ​@@awerawer0708 I think the most disgusting thing that ever happened to me while rolling was:
      The guy was in mount and was going for the Mother's Milk move.
      I wasn't tapping. Wasn't panicking. Wasn't too bothered by it.
      So he shifted upward... and that slight shift pulled my eyelid up as well.
      So my eyeball was stuck to his sweaty disgusting rashguard.
      In literally moments I was fighting with my life on the line to create enough space so I can close my eyelid. LOL
      I didn't even care if I got choked out.
      I didn't care if I got tapped out.
      I just wanted my eyelid closed.
      Fing disgusting
      ps.
      He ended up tapping me with an Mounted Triangle if I remember correctly.

  • @jesusrocks256
    @jesusrocks256 11 месяцев назад +42

    John never says in two minutes what can be said in four.

  • @josephlabianca9557
    @josephlabianca9557 11 месяцев назад +8

    “A man can’t breathe he can’t fight” - Terry Silver

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx 11 месяцев назад

      Well said

  • @bmiliten
    @bmiliten 11 месяцев назад +51

    I believe after Gordon pressure tapped Jacob Couch the Smother Tap was created
    All Jiu jitsu practitioners have tapped or felt like tapping from HEAVY HEAVY top pressure
    The Smother tap now adds a functional option to submit someone

    • @Dreaming-11
      @Dreaming-11 11 месяцев назад +17

      That was already happening in the gyms for many years, just not much on championships

    • @harmonicproportions6588
      @harmonicproportions6588 11 месяцев назад +1

      It happened with that really fat guy in Pride

    • @Name-ql7jf
      @Name-ql7jf 11 месяцев назад +14

      If you think Gordon and Danaher invented this you are mistaken. It’s been hit several times in comps over the years.

    • @owengrantjj
      @owengrantjj 11 месяцев назад +8

      Gordon didn’t smother Couch, he sat on his diaphragm and broke his posture so much that Couch tapped from asphyxiation/exhaustion without being smothered.

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@owengrantjjhis shoulder joints were also getting really fucked up.

  • @timothycarey3883
    @timothycarey3883 11 месяцев назад +66

    John said in a nice way it only works on people who suck.

    • @Elitestudiosdc
      @Elitestudiosdc 11 месяцев назад +2

      Lmao

    • @user-nk3re4dj5h
      @user-nk3re4dj5h 11 месяцев назад +9

      Jacob Couch does not suck...

    • @nooneatall5612
      @nooneatall5612 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@user-nk3re4dj5h Jacob Couch was not tapped with a smother, he tapped to S mount

    • @prithvib8662
      @prithvib8662 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@nooneatall5612 Which isn't even a submission

    • @timothycarey3883
      @timothycarey3883 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@user-nk3re4dj5h no he doesnt but he also didnt tap from a smother it was pressure from s mount as he was about to get armbared and knew he couldnt defend it the was his arms were positioned.

  • @HansDavidian
    @HansDavidian 11 месяцев назад +33

    Smother tap is my favorite submission these days & I am a 130-lbs dude. I even hit some on 200 plus pounders.

    • @andrewb5412
      @andrewb5412 11 месяцев назад +1

      I been trying it. Haven't perfected it yet. Any tips 😅

    • @eliasjr1049
      @eliasjr1049 11 месяцев назад +9

      I think you can pull that off on the practicing room. Sometimes people tap because they're kinda stuck and tap to move on. In a tournament i think you will face a different outcome, especially on high level.

    • @brendanBJJ
      @brendanBJJ 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@andrewb5412step one: head and arm grip in the mount. 2: jack the other arm for double unders. 3: get both of your arms under their neck while you keep the under hooks. Their arms should be above their head and your hands should be hugging their shoulders pretty much. 5: get their head directly in between your pecs, it’s okay if untouched don’t really have a big chest, placement is key. Apply pressure so they can’t turn their head away, they should be looking straight into your chest. 6: apply pressure SLOWLY. You want them to slowly realize there’s no way out as they lose air. If you apply pressure and just squeeze hard you can gas yourself and they can wait it out. Keep mounting the pressure slowly and when you’re pushing in as hard as possible, start to squeeze slowly too. They will tap if you did it all correctly. Grapevine is optional to prevent them from panick bridging/bumping

    • @derrickrobinson7269
      @derrickrobinson7269 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol really? Are you smother tapping them in NoGi? And are these big dudes colored belts? I wonder if body type matters as well. You seem pretty compact for 130lbs so I assume you are shorter and therefore tighter. I'm 6'2 165lbs I will never be able to take away as much space as you, but like John said, certain subs are better for certain bodies

    • @francis-olivierbureau9673
      @francis-olivierbureau9673 11 месяцев назад +1

      I did it a couple times by accident on white belts but they don’t really know danger. I am pretty sure Danaher talks about two athletes at black belt level.

  • @OsvaldoHurtado02
    @OsvaldoHurtado02 11 месяцев назад +6

    One of my to-go submissions. Such a dominant way of finishing your opponent. I once hit it in a purple belt absolute finals tournament.

    • @InVancouverBC66
      @InVancouverBC66 11 месяцев назад

      Love it, too. Mouth smothers included.

    • @frankdelgado8348
      @frankdelgado8348 7 месяцев назад

      @VancouverGuy1 aren’t mufflers illegal?

  • @statictech7
    @statictech7 11 месяцев назад +2

    Is it a smother? I had a judo guy tell me he could hold me down so i let him try it on me and it just hurt my shoulder. I got out because he didn’t understand how to keep mount. But if i didn’t get out quickly i think my shoulder may have been in jeopardy.

  • @tucker0214
    @tucker0214 11 месяцев назад +1

    People did this at my old gym and it was kinda like frowned at to tap to pressure we would also do it with knee on belly and plum grip so your pulling them into your knee as your outing the knee threw them to the ground it sucks…

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 9 месяцев назад

      You're suffocating someone with your chest while your knee is on their belly?

  • @Thecelestial1
    @Thecelestial1 11 месяцев назад +5

    Smothering is awesome. I love watching the fight leave their body with the last bit of air I’m crushing out of their body.

    • @Justinicus24
      @Justinicus24 11 месяцев назад +2

      Sure buddy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @PEislander27
      @PEislander27 11 месяцев назад +2

      lol, this shit sounds crazy out of context. can only say this stuff on bjj content

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@PEislander27
      He sounds like a terrible training partner either way.

  • @BigBoss877
    @BigBoss877 11 месяцев назад +4

    Old moves rediscovered

  • @fteambjj
    @fteambjj 11 месяцев назад +1

    One of my arsenal 😂

  • @JustinColletti
    @JustinColletti 11 месяцев назад +5

    I have found the smother works surprisingly well for smaller people… IF they are small but stocky, and thick through the chest.
    As a 145 pound person with a reasonably muscular chest, all I can say that my least favorite thing about the smother tap is that I sometimes get it by accident! (…when all I’m trying to do is setup a head and arm choke.)
    Just this Tuesday, I accidentally smother tapped the same 230lb guy twice in the same roll when I was just trying to practice my kata gatame. (Good technique has you passing through the smother position to get there.)
    As long as you have a reasonably thick chest, I’m not sure if how much you weigh matters that much. Airways are airways. It doesn’t take a lot of weight to clog them. It just requires closure.
    That said, I agree that it’s more likely to work with a skill disparity between one person ability to hold a pin and the other persons ability to escape a pin. But I just don’t think weight and size is the deciding factor.
    If a 145 pound person is in a super high mount like a facehugger from Alien, then so amount of bridging from a larger bottom person is likely to change that.
    Also: back crucifix, top crucifix and body triangle should also get points, potentially on par with mount and back. Both strikes and smothers are available from these positions as well.

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx 11 месяцев назад

      Good points

  • @josueoliveira86
    @josueoliveira86 11 месяцев назад +6

    Poxa flo. Cadê as legendas em português🙆‍♂️

  • @preston9135
    @preston9135 11 месяцев назад +1

    anytime u disrupt breathing or sight most ppl go to panicking

  • @PhilosophyofArtandScience
    @PhilosophyofArtandScience 11 месяцев назад

    love this move. it's humiliating.

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 9 месяцев назад

      If you love to humiliate others, you should be thrown out of the gym.
      Training partners are the only way of getting better.

  • @charliehollender7850
    @charliehollender7850 10 месяцев назад +1

    Breathing is important Danaher might even go as far to say it's very important but not good enough to make the podium though

    • @allroundlad
      @allroundlad 10 месяцев назад

      I'd argue your heart pumping blood might take the cake, you can go without air till you pass out then so long as it's resupplied, you should be fine. Same can't be said about your heart stopping in your chest.

    • @charliehollender7850
      @charliehollender7850 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@allroundlad thanks for sound argument. I bet it's your dogged determination to keep things literal in the face of attempts for lighthearted humor that keeps you as everybody's first invite to the party. Cheers Drax 🍻

    • @allroundlad
      @allroundlad 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@charliehollender7850 Equally, I bet your exquisite delivery and hostile nature keep everyone laughing at the party.

    • @charliehollender7850
      @charliehollender7850 10 месяцев назад

      @@allroundlad 🤔 my limited knowledge of you leaves me perplexed as to whether that was a literal compliment or sarcasm... 😄

    • @allroundlad
      @allroundlad 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@charliehollender7850 it's sarcasm.

  • @jarkinmalarkin
    @jarkinmalarkin 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's sucks to conquer it is like a weird rabbit or side to side kipping. I remember ages ago it was called mother's milk it should be called waterboarding lol

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx 11 месяцев назад

      That is the right name for it lol let’s spread that

  • @cagataycakmak2280
    @cagataycakmak2280 10 месяцев назад

    A fat giant blue bellt mounted and smother tapped me last week, terrible feeling.

  • @jakeelsner2963
    @jakeelsner2963 10 месяцев назад

    I got submitted like that the other day. Shit sucked. My arm was also extended over my face so it was crushing my face as well as the dudes body weight. Couldn’t breathe for shit.

  • @sebastian_hornet
    @sebastian_hornet 10 месяцев назад

    Oss

  • @crisantogarcia6646
    @crisantogarcia6646 11 месяцев назад

    I’m sub 130lb and tried to smother my training partners 150lb+ doesn’t work. Probably just feels like a plank of wood laying on your face.

  • @geneharrogate6911
    @geneharrogate6911 11 месяцев назад +2

    Got smother tapped by a thicc girl once. She didn't know a dam thing about Jiu Jitsu..

  • @ilhamn3430
    @ilhamn3430 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mother's milk 😂

  • @BJJSurfParadiseHotel
    @BJJSurfParadiseHotel 10 месяцев назад

    So how do you get out of mothers milk!!?

  • @rabbitsnraygunswithgregsch7648
    @rabbitsnraygunswithgregsch7648 11 месяцев назад

    Lol big guy move. Just say it

  • @BlackGold-fc7tu
    @BlackGold-fc7tu 11 месяцев назад +5

    It's boring but legit

    • @HenchPig
      @HenchPig 11 месяцев назад +4

      It’s not boring at all.
      I think it’s cool af !

  • @peterquinn3424
    @peterquinn3424 10 месяцев назад

    I like my submissions smothered and covered, like Waffle House hash browns.

  • @suplexed
    @suplexed 11 месяцев назад

    Sorry mate I got asthma. You interrupt my breathing and I won't even notice

  • @jmoz
    @jmoz 10 месяцев назад

    Alright John I didn't ask for your life story

  • @Malouco
    @Malouco 10 месяцев назад

    Isn’t “SMOTHER” what Jersey Shores uses to call sex? 🤔

  • @aidan5083
    @aidan5083 11 месяцев назад +10

    first

    • @BigLtheNewf
      @BigLtheNewf 11 месяцев назад +21

      Gay

    • @aidan5083
      @aidan5083 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BigLtheNewf no u

    • @aidan5083
      @aidan5083 11 месяцев назад

      @@BigLtheNewf ur dad lesbian

    • @aidan5083
      @aidan5083 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BigLtheNewf want to roll when I come out east?

    • @BigLtheNewf
      @BigLtheNewf 11 месяцев назад

      @@aidan5083 I'm in Alberta

  • @johnguanciale258
    @johnguanciale258 11 месяцев назад

    Frank Mir did that to me in practice many years ago.
    Embarrassing

  • @yousufleads
    @yousufleads 11 месяцев назад +1

    Omg get to the point

  • @PauloBerni699
    @PauloBerni699 11 месяцев назад

    Smother tap and holding your hand over their nose and mouth=no difference

    • @InVancouverBC66
      @InVancouverBC66 11 месяцев назад

      Love them both

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 9 месяцев назад

      @@InVancouverBC66
      Looking at your ladt comments, I'd throw you out of the gym.

  • @mineshaftrisotto
    @mineshaftrisotto 11 месяцев назад +8

    John thinks back mount attacks breathing more than Kesa-gatame? Lmao

    • @greenwood-1426
      @greenwood-1426 11 месяцев назад +5

      kesa gatame is body dependent

    • @prrhyk
      @prrhyk 11 месяцев назад +3

      is that controversial or am i missing the mark here?

    • @anomanderrake440
      @anomanderrake440 11 месяцев назад +38

      mr melon is just more knowledgeable than Danaher so

    • @0b3ryn29
      @0b3ryn29 11 месяцев назад +2

      Compression / camel crusher takes a lot of strength to pull off and its easier to off balance top player in no gi, while the smother tap only needs arm and head control and you block their airways. Plus, its a good setup for double underhooks or back takes.

    • @alexkehoepwj
      @alexkehoepwj 11 месяцев назад +19

      You should teach John BJJ. He has a lot to learn from you

  • @gb361TX
    @gb361TX 11 месяцев назад +3

    Why does everyone act like John and new wave are doing something new or different 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ they do old school moves aka the basics‼️💯

    • @thomasp.898
      @thomasp.898 11 месяцев назад +6

      Because his guys are hitting smother in competition against legit guys which is something that did not happen in a long time.

    • @HenchPig
      @HenchPig 11 месяцев назад +3

      John finds the best things and puts it into a system.
      He also has the best mind and teaching style I’ve ever seen.
      No one explains Jiujitsu better than this man.

    • @gb361TX
      @gb361TX 11 месяцев назад

      @@HenchPig i believe there are many professors that can explain jiujitsu as good as him or better

    • @uncircumcisedcircus
      @uncircumcisedcircus 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@HenchPigThe only guy I might compare to John is Ryan Hall.

    • @HenchPig
      @HenchPig 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@gb361TX Name one

  • @workhard3606
    @workhard3606 11 месяцев назад +1

    Second

  • @dubstepXpower
    @dubstepXpower 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's not very effective (didn't even really work for Gordon Ryan sometimes) since people can hold their breath for minutes enough til they can bridge to get another breathe. whereas a blood choke will put you to sleep in 20 seconds. It's useful to move to a better position tho as people can panic.

    • @Farriswheel23
      @Farriswheel23 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don’t understand your comment.
      You started off saying it’s not very effective but ended it with what Danaher essentially said.

    • @dansmithbyu1784
      @dansmithbyu1784 11 месяцев назад +2

      Hold your breath after sprinting up a hill and lmk how long you last 😂

  • @gegaoli
    @gegaoli 11 месяцев назад

    Smothering with the hand should only be used in self defense. It’s ridiculous in an any other context. Plus it can be unsanitary (higher risk) to subject you training partner unnecessarily to this.

  • @rjj54321
    @rjj54321 11 месяцев назад

    its an impractical crap.

  • @kristopherfernandez2449
    @kristopherfernandez2449 11 месяцев назад

    I saw this submission on Greek statue from 2000 years ago. Greco-Roman all the way

  • @Justinicus24
    @Justinicus24 11 месяцев назад +2

    Super gay

  • @muzzikman8799
    @muzzikman8799 11 месяцев назад

    The GOAT MASTERMIND of killing someone in 5 seconds or less with bare hands💪🏼Shout Out JD