I had an orange filter living on the Q2M while I had it. I also liked the green filter for anything without people. Red was a bit much for most of what I like, nearly blackening the sky in certain circumstances. Never tried a yellow, as I heard they were really subtle. Great test to demonstrate it all!
I use filters on my Hasselblad and Leica film cameras, but not always. On digital only a polarizer, on a colour sensor. I can then convert to black and white and change the tones to what I want.
I was always interested in what the red, green, and yellow filters would do on a digital monochrome camera. Thank you for demonstrating them. I agree with your conclusion that the yellow filter would be the most used.
Probably many have said already, things are much simpler: - yellow filter = brighter skin tones; - red filter = very dark skies; - orange filter = the best of both worlds! That is how you use them.
When I first got into B&W 30 yrs ago I experimented with different filters but settled on yellow as the most pleasing and all around balanced so it’s pretty much standard on my Pentax MX SLR. Orange is my next favourite. The other thing a filter does with an SLR or DSLR like the Pentax K-3 Monocrom where your viewfinder view is coloured by the filter, that yellow or orange tinge helps a little in visualising in monotone.
@@lelandfitz1762 they sell three! Yellow, green and orange! Someone in the comments said about how red causes focus issues! Which I guess is why they don’t sell a red!
try shooting the same image with the different filters and put the red filter image on the red channel, green on the green channel and blue on the blue channel in photoshop. That will give you a color image. Make sure you don't have too many moving things in the image though
Hi Goughie! Great to see you playing with colour filters. I went through the same process. On my Q2M I mostly have the yellow on. If I want something a little more contrasty and to raise the highlights in people’s faces, I go for the orange. Red is simply too extreme for people and makes their eyes look like something from a horror film. I want to try blue. Google results of people with freckles shot on a blue filter, extraordinary results.
@@Goughie Because of the mighty Acros-R from Fujifilm, I thought that the red filter would mean great black & white photos. The chap at the Berlin Leica store was really confused as to why I wanted a red filter. I rarely use it but I do want to shoot more landscape with it, which is perhaps where it will shine the most. Go for the orange, it also helps to hide blemishes in people’s skin, making it suitable for portraits. Looking forward to your next video!
Hi Firstly I didn't realise you lived so close to me I' just the other side of Whitchurch. On my M11M (before that my Q2M) from my film days found the Orange filter to best overall & yellow filter. I always found Red too powerful & only woke on skies. I use Orange for general street & Landscape & yellow for country type stuff such as down Lepe or country shows. Happy to meet up sometime & you can try my Orange filters I have 55mm & 46mm (loaned my 43mm to a Q2M user. Pete
For my photography, yellow stays on the camera most of the time, unless there is a person in the image, then an orange filter goes on, I love what orange filter does with skintones.
It would have been good if you had also included an orange filter, as the general consensus is that it’s effects lie somewhere between the red and the yellow ; and therefore it makes a very good “general purpose” filter for B&W photography. Many thanks for the video which IMO supports my decision to opt for an orange filter.
You might try an orange filter. Tames the red just a bit. I love the red filter for rocky, Ansel-like landscapes but often the contrast is a bit much. Orange will darken the sky while not overdoing the contrast.
An R,G, B filter will pass the light with its own colour and either darkens or just blocks others. With the exception of Blue all other popular filters also block the blue portion of the light spectrum to some degree. Red 25 just about blocks all blue but a yellow #15 known as Minus Blue blocks almost all the blue. Shadows are usually illuminated by scattered light and this has a large portion of blue, so your shadows will tend to go black, while anything with yellow, orange or red will tend to get lighter. With B&W Panchromatic film, We used Yellow/Green ( XO) filter to correct for tonal values of a caucasian complexion. Not sure how a full spectrum monochrome sensor will behave as I don't own a conventional Monochrome sensor. My advice to you is to go easy at first until you can gauge what the filters do. Another thing you can do is to use R720 IR filter and do proper IR photography. Good Luck. PS: Looking at the colour of your filter, it seems to be a #8 sort of medium/light equivalent to a Hoya K2. I would advice you going up to a #12. May I also suggest that you search for a Heliopan Sh-PMC. I think TeamWork sells them. They are pricy but they have superb multicoatings and glass. Tiffen glass is excellent but their filters are not coated. You loose about 8% transmission and risk getting secondary reflections in difficult lighting conditions with a non-cpated filter. Just get a #12 an dthen you can go for the stronger 25 Red if need be.
Red is really good for getting definition out of clouds. They really pop, but you have to expose for the sky, which isn't a problem with the Monochrom because it has so much dynamic range. The red filter was Ansel Adam's secret weapon.
As soon as you put a light absorbing filter on a camera without a color filter array you eliminate their only actual advantage which is greater light gathering. I thought you were going to use color separation filtesr to built composite color images which might have been interesting.
Nearly all Fire stations are red so most people would know that! I really didn’t like what it did to skin tones either! Almost ghostly in look! But blue skies were awesome!
The mistake you made was getting other color filters aside from yellow for your black and white photography. You are missing two colors in this test, orange and blue. Red is terrible with any green in a photo and makes any blue sky look unreal. I have yellow and have been strictly been using yellow with both black and white film and monochrom Leica sensors. I'll get vilified for saying that red is the worst for black and white photography.
Red filter may affect focusing distance, which is an issue for rangefinders, not SLRs. Rangefinder gives you white light distance, but red light is shifted, similar to IR but less pronounced. Robin Schimko struggled with M246 and red filter so he gave up, which was not an issue of the camera. I recommend orange filters instead been safe.
@@Goughie i was considering getting a yellow filter for b&w film photography but i couldnt figure out which one to get - there seems to be lots of different brands and they all seem to have a few different variants (strengths?). I looked at Hoya and Tiffen because i have used them before and they seem to be good quality.. How did you figure out which one to buy and do you think they are the same for film and digital?
This is very exciting content and journey to follow. Thanks a lot for sharing all this. But I must say I don't like the render of your new camera. Sorry about that but I preferred your videos made with the fuji system (colours, grain, aspect etc). (Not the vlog outdoor part obviously but the intro indoor for example) Am I the only one? Apart from this, again exciting stuff to watch!
@@titanpocket5944 Not sure tbh! I’ve been actually quite liking the colours out of the Sony! Definitely easier to grade, but that is leading to me experimenting with grades more!
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I had an orange filter living on the Q2M while I had it. I also liked the green filter for anything without people. Red was a bit much for most of what I like, nearly blackening the sky in certain circumstances. Never tried a yellow, as I heard they were really subtle. Great test to demonstrate it all!
@@davidherring cheers fella! Can’t wait for October 👀
Why would you have an orange filter living on your Q2M ? You use different ones to enhance the image.
@@r423fplip I mostly used this camera for taking photos of my kid and stuff around our life. I like the way it looked. Is that cool?
I use filters on my Hasselblad and Leica film cameras, but not always. On digital only a polarizer, on a colour sensor. I can then convert to black and white and change the tones to what I want.
Just gotta grab an orange filter, that's my favorite 🙂
I was always interested in what the red, green, and yellow filters would do on a digital monochrome camera. Thank you for demonstrating them. I agree with your conclusion that the yellow filter would be the most used.
Orange for me too but not all oranges are the same. I had to replace my tiffen orange with one from B+W (40) to get the right amount of contrast
Probably many have said already, things are much simpler:
- yellow filter = brighter skin tones;
- red filter = very dark skies;
- orange filter = the best of both worlds!
That is how you use them.
When I first got into B&W 30 yrs ago I experimented with different filters but settled on yellow as the most pleasing and all around balanced so it’s pretty much standard on my Pentax MX SLR. Orange is my next favourite.
The other thing a filter does with an SLR or DSLR like the Pentax K-3 Monocrom where your viewfinder view is coloured by the filter, that yellow or orange tinge helps a little in visualising in monotone.
AFAIK Leica reccomends oreange filter for b/w (film) shooting. I think its a great middle way, not as hard as red and not as subtle as yellow.
@@lelandfitz1762 they sell three! Yellow, green and orange!
Someone in the comments said about how red causes focus issues! Which I guess is why they don’t sell a red!
try shooting the same image with the different filters and put the red filter image on the red channel, green on the green channel and blue on the blue channel in photoshop. That will give you a color image. Make sure you don't have too many moving things in the image though
Yes, I did this on 120 film as a concept project I thought of in university and it worked.
Great vid. Good on you for leaping into sharing without knowing the results. A yellow filter lives on my Q2M - subtle but makes every image pop.
I use the yellow all the time on my M11 monochrome, I also like to use the orange filter a lot. But i prefer green on skin tones. Great video 🙂
Ha! Told you that the filters were a must! Great comparison vid!
@@dhaug haha! So many of you! It was hard to ignore!
Orange. Get yourself an orange filter. -2 stops exposure, and you get something between the red and yellow filters.
Orange is my go to. If the sky is super blue I put on the red for the vibe though.
Hi Goughie!
Great to see you playing with colour filters. I went through the same process. On my Q2M I mostly have the yellow on. If I want something a little more contrasty and to raise the highlights in people’s faces, I go for the orange. Red is simply too extreme for people and makes their eyes look like something from a horror film.
I want to try blue. Google results of people with freckles shot on a blue filter, extraordinary results.
Loads of people suggesting orange! I think I might sell the green and red, and pick up an orange!
@@Goughie Because of the mighty Acros-R from Fujifilm, I thought that the red filter would mean great black & white photos. The chap at the Berlin Leica store was really confused as to why I wanted a red filter. I rarely use it but I do want to shoot more landscape with it, which is perhaps where it will shine the most.
Go for the orange, it also helps to hide blemishes in people’s skin, making it suitable for portraits.
Looking forward to your next video!
Hi Firstly I didn't realise you lived so close to me I' just the other side of Whitchurch. On my M11M (before that my Q2M) from my film days found the Orange filter to best overall & yellow filter. I always found Red too powerful & only woke on skies. I use Orange for general street & Landscape & yellow for country type stuff such as down Lepe or country shows. Happy to meet up sometime & you can try my Orange filters I have 55mm & 46mm (loaned my 43mm to a Q2M user.
Pete
For my photography, yellow stays on the camera most of the time, unless there is a person in the image, then an orange filter goes on, I love what orange filter does with skintones.
It would have been good if you had also included an orange filter, as the general consensus is that it’s effects lie somewhere between the red and the yellow ; and therefore it makes a very good “general purpose” filter for B&W photography. Many thanks for the video which IMO supports my decision to opt for an orange filter.
You might try an orange filter. Tames the red just a bit. I love the red filter for rocky, Ansel-like landscapes but often the contrast is a bit much. Orange will darken the sky while not overdoing the contrast.
@@IamUke lll have to give it a go!
Can confirm! 👍🏻
Just use a colour sensor, and use the channel mixer.
An R,G, B filter will pass the light with its own colour and either darkens or just blocks others. With the exception of Blue all other popular filters also block the blue portion of the light spectrum to some degree. Red 25 just about blocks all blue but a yellow #15 known as Minus Blue blocks almost all the blue. Shadows are usually illuminated by scattered light and this has a large portion of blue, so your shadows will tend to go black, while anything with yellow, orange or red will tend to get lighter. With B&W Panchromatic film, We used Yellow/Green ( XO) filter to correct for tonal values of a caucasian complexion. Not sure how a full spectrum monochrome sensor will behave as I don't own a conventional Monochrome sensor. My advice to you is to go easy at first until you can gauge what the filters do. Another thing you can do is to use R720 IR filter and do proper IR photography. Good Luck. PS: Looking at the colour of your filter, it seems to be a #8 sort of medium/light equivalent to a Hoya K2. I would advice you going up to a #12. May I also suggest that you search for a Heliopan Sh-PMC. I think TeamWork sells them. They are pricy but they have superb multicoatings and glass. Tiffen glass is excellent but their filters are not coated. You loose about 8% transmission and risk getting secondary reflections in difficult lighting conditions with a non-cpated filter. Just get a #12 an dthen you can go for the stronger 25 Red if need be.
Nice video Goughie. Now your next challenge is to create an actual full colour photograph using your monochrome camera colour filters and Photoshop.
@@derrenleepoole ahah! I’ve seen videos on that! Thanks for watching!
enjoyed that Goughie i use green a lot and yellow second .......Tony
Red is really good for getting definition out of clouds. They really pop, but you have to expose for the sky, which isn't a problem with the Monochrom because it has so much dynamic range.
The red filter was Ansel Adam's secret weapon.
@@vampolascott36 for sure! Very dramatic skies!!
Ansel Adams would use the filter he needed to get the image he imagined. He was actually very good at photography.
is this red filter the same as infrared??
Yellow is nice for blue eyes.
Always enjoy your videos! Thank you.
@@Edwin_Lam more importantly… thank you for watching them!
These filters are definitely NOT neutral density filters. ND filters are neutral in colour (grey). Red, yellow and green are not neutral colours.
@@-franz-list- wait what?!?! I’m colour blind?! These are coloured?!?!
As soon as you put a light absorbing filter on a camera without a color filter array you eliminate their only actual advantage which is greater light gathering. I thought you were going to use color separation filtesr to built composite color images which might have been interesting.
Why not orange? Not quite the drama of the red but the skies will still look amazing.
@@rogerhampton2844 yet to try! 3 felt like enough for an initial test!
Agree! I use only one, an orange one 😁
Good stuff! 👍
if you get a blue filteryou can do trichromes! if you really want to take colour picture on a monochrome camera lol
@@FookFish ahaha! I’ve seen videos on that before!
I think this comments section needs more comments asking you to try an orange filter. Just making sure 😂
Haha! It seems I missed everyone’s favourite!
Portraits with the orange and red are problematic with lighter eyes. It will turn light eyes very dark. It is a vibe but 😳
Bonjour je préfère le filtre rouge red qui donne un aspect plus clair, par contre sur votre amie le vert green est ma préférence.
It only unnatural if you know the original colour of the door.
Nearly all Fire stations are red so most people would know that! I really didn’t like what it did to skin tones either! Almost ghostly in look! But blue skies were awesome!
add color in Leica monochrome is what real photographers do
The mistake you made was getting other color filters aside from yellow for your black and white photography. You are missing two colors in this test, orange and blue. Red is terrible with any green in a photo and makes any blue sky look unreal. I have yellow and have been strictly been using yellow with both black and white film and monochrom Leica sensors. I'll get vilified for saying that red is the worst for black and white photography.
You’re right. Because red filters do make skies “dramatic”, but that can be good sometimes…
Red filter may affect focusing distance, which is an issue for rangefinders, not SLRs. Rangefinder gives you white light distance, but red light is shifted, similar to IR but less pronounced. Robin Schimko struggled with M246 and red filter so he gave up, which was not an issue of the camera. I recommend orange filters instead been safe.
That is also the reason why Leica avoids red filter from their modern bw filter set.
Very interesting! Wasn’t aware! I did find myself shooting at about f8 so the issue was well hidden!
@@Goughie You would likely notice it in portrait wide open shooting, which was kind of Robin's usage.
great video - thanks for sharing!
@@ignus16 thank you for watching!
@@Goughie i was considering getting a yellow filter for b&w film photography but i couldnt figure out which one to get - there seems to be lots of different brands and they all seem to have a few different variants (strengths?). I looked at Hoya and Tiffen because i have used them before and they seem to be good quality.. How did you figure out which one to buy and do you think they are the same for film and digital?
This is very exciting content and journey to follow.
Thanks a lot for sharing all this.
But I must say I don't like the render of your new camera. Sorry about that but I preferred your videos made with the fuji system (colours, grain, aspect etc).
(Not the vlog outdoor part obviously but the intro indoor for example)
Am I the only one?
Apart from this, again exciting stuff to watch!
@@titanpocket5944 Not sure tbh! I’ve been actually quite liking the colours out of the Sony! Definitely easier to grade, but that is leading to me experimenting with grades more!
@@Goughie as you notice it is very personal but my taste goes to fuji. Anyway good to hear you enjoy your new gear!
Leica,leica, leica..🤦♂️ all Respect is gone, when someone photograher start that leica hype. All times. Brand Clowns🤦♂️🤢🤢