How much money do quant developers make?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2021
  • In this video I go over how much money quantitative developers (quant devs) make at every level of seniority (intern, junior, mid-level, and senior).
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    how much money do quantitative developers (quant devs, quant software engineer) make? What about bonus, signing bonus, etc? quantitative trading salary compensation expectations. quant remuneration.
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  • @CodingJesus
    @CodingJesus  2 года назад +113

    Are you on the road to becoming a Quant Dev?

    • @gundamvishnu6164
      @gundamvishnu6164 2 года назад

      Python

    • @mukamasteven9658
      @mukamasteven9658 2 года назад

      Python

    • @gundamvishnu6164
      @gundamvishnu6164 2 года назад +1

      @@mukamasteven9658 hi

    • @mukamasteven9658
      @mukamasteven9658 2 года назад

      @@gundamvishnu6164 hi there

    • @katn2006
      @katn2006 2 года назад +2

      Not sure to become a developer but very high interest in quantitative trading. Applied for cs undergrad. Thanks for giving us a look into the quantitative/ hft trading field.

  • @alejandroabad-pablo7813
    @alejandroabad-pablo7813 2 года назад +16

    Wow, I really appreciate the video on the compensation of a quantitative developer, and if anything this made me even more eager and motivated to stay on my journey. Keep posting the great videos and content. You’re someone we look up to for many of us. Thank you🙏🏽

  • @DakariAntoine
    @DakariAntoine 2 года назад

    Been waiting for this video! Thank you my Lord 🙏🏾.

  • @labradorviewer2789
    @labradorviewer2789 2 года назад +3

    Love your channel. Would be great if we could have some discussions about network elements and ultra-low latency hardware. Let’s nerd out!

  • @eosio8450
    @eosio8450 2 года назад +31

    Your thumbnail game's getting stronger

  • @justapublichealthguy7954
    @justapublichealthguy7954 2 года назад +2

    I appreciate your channel. Thanks for creating the material. I stumbled upon your channel and to be frank I've considered a career change from healthcare to what your doing. It's helpful to have you talk about it all.

  • @consensualcode9750
    @consensualcode9750 2 года назад +15

    This was really informative and got to straight to the point. Question - outside of ability to code what other skills are companies looking for when hiring intern or junior quant devs?

  • @yelp70
    @yelp70 2 года назад +9

    This is all very interesting, what are your thoughts on places such as Renaissance technologies and the types of quant devs found there? Would love to hear your thoughts! From a fan in Sydney au :) keep up the great work 👍

  • @theanalystkr3255
    @theanalystkr3255 2 года назад +9

    Hi Coding Jesus, really love your no-bs content. I currently work at a boutique equity/fixed income brokerage as a trade support analyst (essentially on the desk with the traders allocating and doing all the bs after execution), however the role is so boring and robotic. Really want to pick up a coding language and pursue something where I can merge my interest in the financial markets and programming/creativity, what do you recommend I do? And what kind of roles do you think I could pivot to?

  • @maxloval775
    @maxloval775 2 года назад

    Great video as always CJ!

  • @nitro7327
    @nitro7327 2 года назад +2

    ever considered a video talking about some of the prominent MMs and systematic funds? there's not a ton of information online, might help prospective Quants to narrow their application focus

    • @ThomasFoolery8
      @ThomasFoolery8 2 года назад

      There’s not a ton of info for a reason. These firms are secretive and don’t appreciate being put on blast because they don’t want the Bernie Sanders of the world tweeting about how they need to be regulated and taxed more. Anyone affiliated with the industry doesn’t want to burn these bridges. They want to stay within the walled garden and quietly make big money. Historically, it’s been a word-of-mouth industry amongst really smart people at elite schools; it’s invite-only.

  • @fredbennett5285
    @fredbennett5285 Год назад

    Thanks Coding Jesus

  • @channel-so2st
    @channel-so2st 2 года назад +4

    What C++ books do you recommend to go from zero to quant dev? There are so many C++ books

  • @ahmedbouali7000
    @ahmedbouali7000 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video ! Can you please tell us how those numbers are compared to what Quant Analysts get ? Also are Quant Devs appreciated enough in their firms ? Because compared to Software Engineers in Tech companies, Quant devs do not seem to be the heart of the business model..

  • @mcjon77
    @mcjon77 2 года назад +9

    Fuck. My buddy has been a quantitative developer for HFT firms for solid 20 years. I had no idea he was balling this hard. The dude doesn't spend any money.

  • @leecharlie2513
    @leecharlie2513 2 года назад +20

    100k base salary in nyc is poverty line.

  • @EmpereurIV
    @EmpereurIV 2 года назад +5

    Hello, How many hours do you work per week (as a quant analyst, quant dev, quant software engineer) ?

  • @theinfinityfund
    @theinfinityfund 2 года назад +32

    I can confirm the mid-level; albeit a little bit different title.
    I was a mid-level Data Scientist at a large asset manager and made $157,500, 25k sign on bonus, with 50% year one bonus. ~250k total.

    • @dovecat
      @dovecat 2 года назад

      @Coding Jesus••▫️▫️ how can anyone possibly think that this will work

  • @strawhat3891
    @strawhat3891 2 года назад +2

    Is it possible for an individual to become a quant trader without being associated with an established or new firm? Can quantitative trading be pursued to generate passive income?

  • @bobsimpson9228
    @bobsimpson9228 2 года назад +1

    Where do I start? I've been day trading with TA for a few years now and in school for Finance. I actually wanted to be a trader for a fund or IB but it seems like they're all quants. I have to get started teaching myself. Where do I start?

  • @gordo3582
    @gordo3582 2 года назад +2

    The only thing you said that I take exception with is that someone with 20 years of experience is worth a lot more than someone with 7 years experience. Pretty much nothing you did >7 years ago has any value in this field ;). But yes, I said "worth" not what you can pull down, perhaps someone with 20 years experience can pull down more, but they aren't worth more. And years of experience is also a terrible way of assessing value, aptitude and raw talent are MUCH more important and specifically with quant trading software, its simple, what APR did your algo return in real world use and what level of risk/volatility did it require? Your value is based on that alone really, although being able to update strategies over time is also critically important, no one wants a one hit wonder and that's where years of experience matter most.

  • @justforthecult3598
    @justforthecult3598 2 года назад +2

    I guess I don't understand how to get into the industry. What should I go to college for? Finance/economics? Or some sort of software development degree?
    I don't know how to code yet, but it seems that my dream of being an institutional trader basically doesn't exist anymore...so I'm wondering if I should even go to college for finance like originally planned.
    I'm leaving the army after 13 years and trying to find my next path in life.

    • @justforthecult3598
      @justforthecult3598 Год назад

      @condingjesus1 where can I write you at? I'm very serious about this and very committed as well

  • @colinmaharaj
    @colinmaharaj 2 года назад +3

    This is interesting. Im working on an app with IB for stuff I want to do. I have no finance training, but I have experience in c++ and math and high performance coding.

    • @CV-vk3cy
      @CV-vk3cy 2 года назад +2

      IB × Tradingview is a dream come true

    • @colinmaharaj
      @colinmaharaj 2 года назад

      @@CV-vk3cy ok I'll look into it. Note I'm using ib for market data, and some other platform for trading. I'm writing all the pattern stuff from scratch multi threaded C++ code.

  • @Brainwave_Architect
    @Brainwave_Architect 2 года назад

    Hey man, im a fan, can you make a review about axie infinity and why is it not a ponzi scheme... I want to hear it from a developer's perspective, thanks and more power to your channel

  • @zillboy
    @zillboy 5 месяцев назад

    Dear Coding Jesus, can you please make a video about the scope of "Quants Developer" given that you currently one, so I wanted an opinion from you, and what impact does AI has on it field.
    Little bit about my background is I'm a Software Engineer with 3 years of Experience working on Frontend/Backend/Mobile App was thinking about getting into this field, something about this field makes me happy making Algorithms that we test whose output is making real money or losing real money. Thank you

  • @ishaananand4779
    @ishaananand4779 2 года назад +2

    languges to learn as quantative developer - c#,c++,python,java,matlab,r

  • @wetradeforex1
    @wetradeforex1 2 года назад

    Nice video, I would love to know this please. The cot reports shows what big traders or institutions are doing in the markets we could use that to have an idea of what will happen in the market, but it is as well a delayed report

  • @ErikaGB33
    @ErikaGB33 Год назад +1

    What state are these figures based in? $200k in Texas is WAY different than $200k in New York.

  • @ishmaelm1932
    @ishmaelm1932 2 года назад +6

    This kid is a millionaire take his advice wisely. He ain't any ordinary guy. He's only in his early 20s. I'm just finding out about this world. So far things are good. Thanks coding Jesus.

  • @Ishvires
    @Ishvires 2 года назад +3

    Highest paying job in the IT sector, well above data scientists or devops

  • @wertiaaudit5746
    @wertiaaudit5746 2 года назад

    In theory Imma just contact a temp agency and tell them I need a quasi dev and let them post the ad at minimum wage plus on my end temp staffing fees etc. , someone sees the ad and learns how to be a quasi dev and they'll take the job .
    I seen it happen just not quasi dev but it could be possible to pay a dev minimum wage , no?

  • @pst659
    @pst659 2 года назад

    Im beginning to like this guy..

  • @wetradeforex1
    @wetradeforex1 2 года назад

    So i wanna know I've heard of level 2 data in trading, what's your opinion on this?

  • @rickbains4452
    @rickbains4452 2 года назад +7

    One thing I don't understand. If you developer who has developed algo that produce 20 million for the firm... Why the hell are working for someone else?! Why couldn't you just use the algo to trade for yourself?

    • @binarytekk
      @binarytekk 2 года назад +25

      Often times, the strategies that are created are reliant on infrastructure at the firm that cannot be replicated by a regular dude at home.

    • @sunnyg5941
      @sunnyg5941 2 года назад +6

      ​@@binarytekk Man has a point. In terms of Infrastructure... the advantage is more on HFT side and not algorithms.
      I am developer and that is typical excuse that only because of infrastructure. I don't believe that. What good are high speed networks, ultra low latency networks, mission critical servers, etc if your code is garbage?
      CJ content is great, and he valid points about day traders/trading gurus. But one thing I can tell is a lot of his criticism is based on jealously towards successful traders. He couldn't make it so he consistently put down others. Why does he care so much about day traders? If they make or lose money let it be.

    • @noWoodsman
      @noWoodsman Год назад +1

      @@sunnyg5941 exact, I know quite some people that make trading bots for themselves and are doing very well. But, this is a risk you have to take. You can work for a boss and get a paycheck every month or you do everything on your own ( capital etc ). Not everyone is willing to risk there money and time for it, but for the people that do and become successful with it, they are enjoying life.

  • @moneroxmr2130
    @moneroxmr2130 2 года назад +146

    Indian developers are probably crying watching these numbers.

    • @KingKongHitDaBong
      @KingKongHitDaBong 2 года назад +1

      Why?

    • @gugugaga5867
      @gugugaga5867 2 года назад

      I am crying blood. Mind you

    • @sandeeprana-yo3wm
      @sandeeprana-yo3wm 2 года назад +33

      My friend codes here in India and makes around USD 100k in India. Which is equivalent to making 500K ( purchasing power parity terms) in the USA. I think he has a better deal.

    • @arjunekrishna7044
      @arjunekrishna7044 2 года назад

      ​@@sandeeprana-yo3wm sounds interesting, is he a quant dev?

    • @sandeeprana-yo3wm
      @sandeeprana-yo3wm 2 года назад

      @@arjunekrishna7044 he works in the cloud security,

  • @nigelbarnes7904
    @nigelbarnes7904 2 года назад +3

    - Is there an age cut off when trying to break into the quant dev space? In the sense where a company wouldn't hire you as a jr quant dev because you are too old, or do you just have to be really good at programming?
    - Also is there a required educational background, for example if you need a degree related to finance or computer science? Or it just doesn't matter as long as you are good enough at programming?

    • @CodingJesus
      @CodingJesus  2 года назад +24

      1. Competence requirement, no age requirement. At the same time you probably can't be a Jr Quant Dev at age 80.
      2. Competence. No degree requirements.

    • @nigelbarnes7904
      @nigelbarnes7904 2 года назад

      @@CodingJesus thanks for answering Coding Jesus

  • @JstJaybeingJay
    @JstJaybeingJay 2 года назад +6

    A question for any one willing to answer, can self thought coder get into quant development?. Just so i know I've a chance if I don't pass out from college.

    • @CodingJesus
      @CodingJesus  2 года назад +14

      You’re looking at a video created by one.

    • @JstJaybeingJay
      @JstJaybeingJay 2 года назад +1

      @@CodingJesus oh yeah.... That sounds so good to my ears😂😂(that I can make it, without college). Thanks man. Btw I am trying to develop my own algorithm any advice? Do you think AI can perform well in trading or investing?

  • @noaboa5670
    @noaboa5670 8 месяцев назад

    As a savant like coder who does contract work I’m really feeling kinda frustrated I built bots I could have sold for ten times the amount with ease….

  • @accountsequity5587
    @accountsequity5587 Год назад

    Do you have to get a masters to become a developer.

  • @saipie7506
    @saipie7506 2 года назад

    Do you recommend a PhD?

  • @Ilyasimankov
    @Ilyasimankov Год назад

    Is this net or before tax?

  • @bibekkoirala8802
    @bibekkoirala8802 2 года назад +1

    Hey CJ, did your finance degree help in this position? Do C++ infra guys make as much as algo quant devs?

  • @inayasingh2680
    @inayasingh2680 2 года назад

    Where to apply for quant roles

  • @danieljones7965
    @danieljones7965 2 года назад +2

    What would the best degrees be, in order, for becoming a Quant Developer? 🤔

    • @ThomasFoolery8
      @ThomasFoolery8 2 года назад +2

      Maybe CS with a math/physics minor or the other way around.
      Realistically, your main constraint won’t be your degree, it will be your raw IQ. The interview process to these shops are very rigorous and to put it simply, they’re basically different flavors of IQ tests.
      If you didn’t score in the top 10% in SAT/ACT I’d just give up and look for more of a people based profession like consulting.

    • @sarthakj52
      @sarthakj52 2 года назад

      @@ThomasFoolery8 hey I am from India there is a bs in mathematics and scientific computing degree in the best Indian university is that enough? or do I have to pursue a master's and Ph.D.??

    • @ThomasFoolery8
      @ThomasFoolery8 2 года назад +2

      @@sarthakj52 it depends on the shop, but usually it is enough. Like I said, they don’t say it out loud, but most of these places are screening for people with a high raw IQ. If you can nail the interview, they know you’re smart enough to do the job well. Whatever shortcomings you may have in knowledge, your brain is strong enough to learn on the job.

    • @herikaniugu
      @herikaniugu Год назад

      Just have a good portfolio, you can get a job without a degree

    • @saitamajay6435
      @saitamajay6435 Год назад

      Psychics

  • @guolunli1908
    @guolunli1908 2 года назад +1

    Is that comp for an average quant dev? What about quant devs at a top hedge fund/prop trading/market making firm?

    • @user-xw3fl5kl2y
      @user-xw3fl5kl2y 7 месяцев назад

      High 6 low 7 figs. Year 1.

    • @guolunli1908
      @guolunli1908 7 месяцев назад

      @@user-xw3fl5kl2y I've only heard that top QRs get to paid between 500k to 1mm for their first year. for QDs its closer to 300k to 500k based on my datapoints

  • @pooascyrous5722
    @pooascyrous5722 2 года назад

    i love u

  • @anoopchandran3267
    @anoopchandran3267 Год назад

    why are you on patreon then?

  • @LeakCentral
    @LeakCentral 2 года назад +1

    put your tags on the top right, kind of hard to see against ur shirt

    • @LeakCentral
      @LeakCentral 4 месяца назад

      cant believe i posted this 2 years ago, watching this again 2 years later as a university student lol

  • @alih5948
    @alih5948 Год назад

    Is remote work possible in this field

  • @eudaimonian9473
    @eudaimonian9473 Год назад +1

    damn this is way lower than I expected... gonna just stick to regular tech

  • @cutthroatllc7198
    @cutthroatllc7198 2 года назад

    What university did you go to

  • @jesusaguiar3804
    @jesusaguiar3804 2 года назад +4

    On a trading firm who earns the most, the traders or the developers?

  • @csmastery1337
    @csmastery1337 2 года назад +2

    10$

  • @patrickneff7846
    @patrickneff7846 9 месяцев назад

    remuneration*

  • @jennyethrad1778
    @jennyethrad1778 Год назад

    Hello, Sir. I'm the Corporate Communications Manager at ETHRAD. My name is Jenny. Nice to meet you. We are currently recruiting all kinds of bloggers for commercial cooperation in advertising business. All you need to do is help ETHRAD with the relevant video

  • @tariqtariqtariq88
    @tariqtariqtariq88 2 года назад

    Im 36 and im thinking of starting to learn coding... would you recommend it???

    • @CodingJesus
      @CodingJesus  2 года назад

      Sure

    • @yasarkov4980
      @yasarkov4980 2 года назад

      Funny, i am the same Age and thinking the same. But for a real carrier its to late i think.

    • @darkcoder5799
      @darkcoder5799 Год назад

      And with 45? 😰

  • @TheLambo123254
    @TheLambo123254 2 года назад

    👍

  • @LIV-FREE-VET
    @LIV-FREE-VET Год назад

    Man I need to be a quant 🧠😂

  • @ninthcrusader2355
    @ninthcrusader2355 2 года назад

    How does one go into this field? What would be a good major for Bachelors and Masters for it?

    • @rishabhsetty3109
      @rishabhsetty3109 2 года назад +1

      Math or computer science

    • @Jay-xb5du
      @Jay-xb5du 2 года назад +1

      @@rishabhsetty3109 what about a very quantitive economics and statistics degree?

    • @Tobi21089
      @Tobi21089 Год назад

      @@Jay-xb5du statistics yes economics is also important but math is more important u can always learn economic on the fly.

    • @Jay-xb5du
      @Jay-xb5du Год назад

      @@Tobi21089 I ended up doing Mathematics, statistics and economics.

    • @Jay-xb5du
      @Jay-xb5du Год назад

      @@Tobi21089 and for my masters I’ll do statistics applied to finance.

  • @leonmozambique533
    @leonmozambique533 2 года назад +1

    Can you break 7 figures as a quant dev?

  • @kantocoder5046
    @kantocoder5046 2 года назад +1

    I am pretty sure that the companies will PROMISE you to pay that much money, but when the bonus time comes you probably see only a small fraction of what you were promised. Especially if you are under NCA and especially if you are H1-B holder (or any other working visa, for that matter).

    • @CodingJesus
      @CodingJesus  2 года назад +21

      Nope. You get paid. This isn’t some under the table quasi-handshake back door black market agreements.

    • @kantocoder5046
      @kantocoder5046 2 года назад +1

      @@CodingJesus Why would you get paid? NCA and/or H1B visa status (the latter makes a foreigner an indentured servant, essentially) deprives an employee from any barganing power, and the bonus is discretionary.
      Would spend any more money on someone who is disposable and replaceable? Typically, employers don't.

    • @Jay-xb5du
      @Jay-xb5du 2 года назад +1

      @@CodingJesus 😂😂😂😂

    • @adaelasm6467
      @adaelasm6467 Год назад +1

      @@kantocoder5046 these companies want people to want to work there. Bonuses of $20-50k are meaningless to them compared to the millions that they pay the top people.

    • @kantocoder5046
      @kantocoder5046 Год назад

      @@adaelasm6467 After having worked for Intel Corporation I can say: yes, there are generous and humane companies out there

  • @RealEvangelizer
    @RealEvangelizer Год назад

    I found my jesus and as a hindu it’s totally acceptable

  • @paulcampos-oe9ml
    @paulcampos-oe9ml 11 месяцев назад

    What are the chances of transitioning into quant development at age 40?

    • @eli1882
      @eli1882 10 месяцев назад

      Slim bro. Not inpossible. Would recommend learning how to program.

  • @zeroday7878
    @zeroday7878 Месяц назад +1

    seems really lowball

  • @danielcheung966
    @danielcheung966 2 года назад +9

    I knew this guy in college, he now sleeps with a different women every night

    • @pazdowg
      @pazdowg 2 года назад +3

      My guy HighCoinviction, don't think we've forgotten about you!

    • @EbNorth
      @EbNorth 2 года назад

      That's not a good thing.

  • @bnc_kfr
    @bnc_kfr Год назад

    Would these numbers be similar in London UK?

    • @RaRa-eu9mw
      @RaRa-eu9mw Год назад

      The numbers are completely fictional. A junior quantitative developer in the UK can expect to make around £40k

  • @Von.Juan.
    @Von.Juan. 2 года назад +1

    Do you think EVERY person who claims to have a market edge and makes consistent money day trading is a fraud/liar?

  • @johnyoung8184
    @johnyoung8184 2 года назад +1

    you have to go to college?.....well guess that counts me out

    • @CodingJesus
      @CodingJesus  2 года назад +2

      Did I say you have to go to college in this video? I don't think I did...

    • @johnyoung8184
      @johnyoung8184 2 года назад

      Well you said “out of college”. I guess I could have googled 😂🤣

  • @jacktemple3628
    @jacktemple3628 Год назад

    This could be less than 4 mins. Way too much filler

  • @mkprivate7523
    @mkprivate7523 2 года назад

    You really love yourself don't you?

  • @tamashbeen6610
    @tamashbeen6610 2 года назад

    Don't get code crucified, coding Jesus!

  • @nicolashuerlimann5890
    @nicolashuerlimann5890 2 года назад

    uuuh this gonna get more clicks

  • @meyerhans2125
    @meyerhans2125 2 года назад

    What is your iq?

  • @TheMikeDMedia
    @TheMikeDMedia 2 года назад

    oh lol ur crazy.. haha

  • @kanutaro3426
    @kanutaro3426 Год назад

    you even look like Jesus 😭

  • @datorusfinance6659
    @datorusfinance6659 2 года назад

    embrace the clickbait

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    @dippytrading403 2 года назад

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