Spectral Layers ONE an even more cut down version of elements now comes free with Cubase 11. this includes the vocal removal stuff an I have to say it's mind blowing
I am working on some very noisy radio broadcast of our old band from the 1970s. I’m using both RX and Spectralayers... I am finding denoise is best with RX, then after that, unmixing the vocal stem with Spectralayers is the best workflow. Why am I taking out the vocal? Well to try some melodyne magic so our singer, now an oldie like me, can enjoy his efforts as he always thought his contribution was not quite right. Great fun. Thanks for the video, it puts things in perspective that some bits are best done with different manufacturers...
Hey Jonathan, great to hear! You're dropping some thruthbombs here. Yeah it really differs from manufacturer to manufacturer and when you have acces to more tools then one, just picks what works best.
Cubase Pro 11 now includes Spectralayers One ( Much the same as Elements ) So if you upgrade to 11 you also get this basic version that can separate vocals and works very well with many tacks I've tried..... Thanks for your review. Think I might buy Spectralayers Pro 7 as I like the extra tools and ability to separate drum tacks as well as other sounds
Yeah Spectralayers One has some functions less then Elements, but the vocal separating is exactly the same. The pro version has the denoising options and better and more tools for a faster workflow. And of course you can do more separating with pro, drums, piano, transients and noise. So for me the Pro version is excellent in mastering etc. But the One version is a really good starting point. I haven’t seen an upgrade from One to Pro on the Steinberg Site, usually that will be available too. Saves a few bucks.
@@whitenoisestudio The denoising option is something I would find very useful as well as the ability to separate drums & other sounds. As the Spectralayers One is included in Cubase Pro I don't think they would offer an upgrade option but they may add extra options in Cubase pro 11.5 in a years time. They might have an offer price for Black Friday or when they have a sale but I'm not sure I will be able to wait that long lol..... I will get the full version by the weekend I'm sure ..... The wife with moan but hey !
@@DJBBBOSS haha. I took the plunge with version 6 and bought the upgrade to 7. It only hurts much once when buying and then a little less with the upgrades ;-)
I saw the video a few hours later when you posted and I have to thanks you a lot, I didn't know Demix Pro exists and now I have it and is the best, there's no comparison with other programs I've been using, I don't need the acapella, I need the drums, no music, just the drums, perfect.
White Noise Studio yes, I’m a dj playing mp4 files, not audio files.I mean I’m a disc video jockey and I need to edit the intro and outros from songs to play in pubs, you know you go to the pub to listen radio versions not club versions and most of the time is very difficult to get the kick and snare sounding good but with demix it is possible and I know now thanks to you, great job.
@@whitenoisestudio MORE THAN fair explanation. I truly look forward to it as someone new to production and who has bought neither... yet is waiting on comparisons to make a choice (even with the price difference).
@@whitenoisestudio Brilliant, I'll be looking forward to that. I found your Clarity VX content great and watched multiple times. Looking for a great plugin suite for podcast editing in this case
Hey Jesse, good one. Let me thing if I want to do another comarison video for vocal removing. I know audacity does this too. any more programs for mac and win which do this I dont know about?
The burning question is how does it compare to online removers like vocal remover. I was trying to see if anybody else ask this question but I couldn't find it in the questions section.
Rx8 is leaps ahead of rx7. Made a video with a rx8 comparison and this one is how to use music rebalance for voice isolation / removal : ruclips.net/video/aRrAksLUu6g/видео.html
Hey Steve, congrats! yeah i saw the black friday deal mail! 50% off. That's more than an excellent deal I would say. Have a lot of fun with spectralayers! Btw did you check my full video on spectralayers? ruclips.net/video/mA87o-44pAs/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio Had a few heavy days at work so not been online until I got the offer email tonight lol.... I've added your video to my Fav and will watch tomorrow evening after work.... its almost 11pm here in the UK so early start again at work in the morning so I'm off to bed shorty .... Lucky I almost got Pro 7 on Sunday lol.... didn't as I was busy with family & then I get the offer email this evening YAY.... Take care and thanks for the videos again....
I think, i go with Spectral Layers Pro. Rx7 dont feel mature and not good enough and Demix Pro is an only online solution, which makes no sense for me, if I am somewhere else with my Laptop or have no Internetconnection at s specific moment. So, why only online processing demix offer is strange.
Demix Pro is handy when you have limited cpu usage and have to do some bulk without taxing your own cpu. It also has had some upgrades since this video, I have to revisit that software to check on the current state of affairs ;-) RX8 is now upgraded to RX8 which does it's job considerably better and I totally agree on spectralayers 7 , it's my fav. Here's my comparison with iztope rx8: ruclips.net/video/0vWu1hpsGhU/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio Running multiple programms with slow cpu makes no sense. This person should first buy a faster cpu (which is not expensive) or do resource-managment and dont run multiple programs, where RAM can be more the bottle-neck, instad CPU. The "only" cloud-computing solution" to cover "slow cpu and/or low memory users" makes no sense for me, to justify that. Why not give both options, to calculate local or on cloud? I think its pretty strang, the only cloud-computing solution. I definitaly will go with Spectral Layers.
Spectralayers is a separate install, you should download it via the steinberg download center. Then you can open it in Cubase as ara extension on an audio clip.
He Erwin! Just some smart analytics of the programs. If you look closer at these 3 you'll notice they target the same things. Bass, vocal, drums and a form of "the rest" because these can be analyzed the best. With vocal they detect the root note of a voice with it's harmonics and higher frequency stuff like sibilants (t's and esses) and extract only those frequencies at the right spot. Sometimes it's hard for an algorithm to hear the right parts, so that's why for instance the attack of the bass get's removed at times.
@@whitenoisestudio awesome stuff, really clever indeed... That probably means the plugins will work more precise with a higher sample rate? I had a lecturer in computational musicology who once said: "scientifically speaking, these plugins shouldn't be able to exist". I like that thought 😋
@@erwinvanoostenbrugge Nah, the important musical content happens in the low and mid of the frequency spectrum. Higher samplerates dont change that. I dont understand that quote. It's bot the most difficult thing to create, the excecution is a different story. You take for instance a transient which you can detect, look if there's a big low end happening at the same time, you offset a few models / general set of rules against it, look if it matches and extract. - Bassdrum extracted. This is very simplified but not undoable at all.
spectralayers won this shootout. Demix Pro 2 got recently updated especially for vocals extraction. Didn’t have had the chance to test it. Spleeter is part of Acoustica 7 if I’m correct and I compared the vocal extraction algorithm of that in a second video: ruclips.net/video/0vWu1hpsGhU/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio Spleeter GUI is it’s own stand alone software that if it’s not deserving of it’s own review it’s at least worthy of a comparison video and the added bonus is it’s free software.
There are a few more as well. Spleeter is the basis for many stem extraction software and def worth a check. Adding to my list, hit 'n mix is on it as well.
✅ Izotope Rx8 Music Rebalance - Vocal Remove & Isolate and more! - ruclips.net/video/aRrAksLUu6g/видео.html
Spectral Layers ONE an even more cut down version of elements now comes free with Cubase 11. this includes the vocal removal stuff an I have to say it's mind blowing
I know. I did a video on it:-) ruclips.net/video/xdLNtjuP9qY/видео.html
They wisely included the vocal isolate option in spectralayers one.
I am working on some very noisy radio broadcast of our old band from the 1970s. I’m using both RX and Spectralayers... I am finding denoise is best with RX, then after that, unmixing the vocal stem with Spectralayers is the best workflow. Why am I taking out the vocal? Well to try some melodyne magic so our singer, now an oldie like me, can enjoy his efforts as he always thought his contribution was not quite right. Great fun. Thanks for the video, it puts things in perspective that some bits are best done with different manufacturers...
Hey Jonathan, great to hear! You're dropping some thruthbombs here.
Yeah it really differs from manufacturer to manufacturer and when you have acces to more tools then one, just picks what works best.
Cubase Pro 11 now includes Spectralayers One ( Much the same as Elements ) So if you upgrade to 11 you also get this basic version that can separate vocals and works very well with many tacks I've tried..... Thanks for your review. Think I might buy Spectralayers Pro 7 as I like the extra tools and ability to separate drum tacks as well as other sounds
Yeah Spectralayers One has some functions less then Elements, but the vocal separating is exactly the same. The pro version has the denoising options and better and more tools for a faster workflow. And of course you can do more separating with pro, drums, piano, transients and noise. So for me the Pro version is excellent in mastering etc. But the One version is a really good starting point. I haven’t seen an upgrade from One to Pro on the Steinberg Site, usually that will be available too. Saves a few bucks.
@@whitenoisestudio The denoising option is something I would find very useful as well as the ability to separate drums & other sounds. As the Spectralayers One is included in Cubase Pro I don't think they would offer an upgrade option but they may add extra options in Cubase pro 11.5 in a years time. They might have an offer price for Black Friday or when they have a sale but I'm not sure I will be able to wait that long lol..... I will get the full version by the weekend I'm sure ..... The wife with moan but hey !
@@DJBBBOSS haha. I took the plunge with version 6 and bought the upgrade to 7. It only hurts much once when buying and then a little less with the upgrades ;-)
I saw the video a few hours later when you posted and I have to thanks you a lot, I didn't know Demix Pro exists and now I have it and is the best, there's no comparison with other programs I've been using, I don't need the acapella, I need the drums, no music, just the drums, perfect.
Hey Sergio!
For drums it's really really good. The was demix pro leaves the transients etc intact is amazing.
Probably the best out there for drums.
White Noise Studio yes, I’m a dj playing mp4 files, not audio files.I mean I’m a disc video jockey and I need to edit the intro and outros from songs to play in pubs, you know you go to the pub to listen radio versions not club versions and most of the time is very difficult to get the kick and snare sounding good but with demix it is possible and I know now thanks to you, great job.
I can imagine! Happy I brought demix pro to your ettention, albeit for an entire different purpose ;-)
FINALLY A COMPARISON!!!! THANK YOU!
(Though i'm confused as to why you aren't using RX8) since they're offering it to content providers for review.
Hey! The video was made before rx8 was out ;-) That's the simple reason. A new comparison with rx8 is in the works.
@@whitenoisestudio MORE THAN fair explanation.
I truly look forward to it as someone new to production and who has bought neither... yet is waiting on comparisons to make a choice (even with the price difference).
@@TheRangeControl What exactly are you looking for. The voice removal only?
Would love to see an updated comparison with overall performance of Acoustica, Spectralayers, Clarity VX and RX10
It’s due, I fully agree. Have to start working on it, especially because I now have tested ripx as well.
@@whitenoisestudio Brilliant, I'll be looking forward to that. I found your Clarity VX content great and watched multiple times. Looking for a great plugin suite for podcast editing in this case
I'd like to also see you put Hit'N'Mix Infinity to the test.
Hey Jesse, good one. Let me thing if I want to do another comarison video for vocal removing. I know audacity does this too. any more programs for mac and win which do this I dont know about?
@@whitenoisestudio The Acustica audio editor also does it, via the Spleeter add-on.
@@jessetaldotcom Ah i see that that is now included in the latest acoustica version by default.
The burning question is how does it compare to online removers like vocal remover. I was trying to see if anybody else ask this question but I couldn't find it in the questions section.
Really awesome video my friend!
Many, many thanks Alexei!
Would I be able to remove the main vocals but leave the background vocals there. Song like g unit pippin them thangs.
most likely! try it with trial (same answer as in your other comment)
Quite good.
Still not there yet.
Spec seems to be the best sofar.
I agree with you. Spectralayers is my choice.
✅ Spectralayers Pro 7 Review: ruclips.net/video/mA87o-44pAs/видео.html
Hey, nice video ! How about a new comparison with RX8 ?
It's in the planning! Rx8 vs other ones
Rx8 is leaps ahead of rx7. Made a video with a rx8 comparison and this one is how to use music rebalance for voice isolation / removal : ruclips.net/video/aRrAksLUu6g/видео.html
Spectralayer pro... hands down...
I agree based on the samples I used in this video!
Hi again....Just got the full version direct from Steimberg ... its Christmas come early for me with there Half Price Offer online ........
Hey Steve, congrats! yeah i saw the black friday deal mail! 50% off. That's more than an excellent deal I would say. Have a lot of fun with spectralayers! Btw did you check my full video on spectralayers?
ruclips.net/video/mA87o-44pAs/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio Had a few heavy days at work so not been online until I got the offer email tonight lol.... I've added your video to my Fav and will watch tomorrow evening after work.... its almost 11pm here in the UK so early start again at work in the morning so I'm off to bed shorty .... Lucky I almost got Pro 7 on Sunday lol.... didn't as I was busy with family & then I get the offer email this evening YAY.... Take care and thanks for the videos again....
What is now the best software you recommend for audio repair and restoration?
RX8 or spectralayers 7 pro. Both have their pro's and cons. I have both.
@@whitenoisestudio What about Acoustica 7.2 with it's included repair functionality?
I never tested that for its repair function, so I can’t say,
I'm confused. What is the difference between 1st half vs 2nd half of sample?
Which sample? I use two examples
And Hit'N'Mix Infinity 4.7 ? Is great for remove vocals or instrumentals?
Havent tested it yet! It's on the list though .
I think, i go with Spectral Layers Pro. Rx7 dont feel mature and not good enough and Demix Pro is an only online solution, which makes no sense for me, if I am somewhere else with my Laptop or have no Internetconnection at s specific moment. So, why only online processing demix offer is strange.
Demix Pro is handy when you have limited cpu usage and have to do some bulk without taxing your own cpu.
It also has had some upgrades since this video, I have to revisit that software to check on the current state of affairs ;-)
RX8 is now upgraded to RX8 which does it's job considerably better and I totally agree on spectralayers 7 , it's my fav.
Here's my comparison with iztope rx8:
ruclips.net/video/0vWu1hpsGhU/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio That must be a pretty old cpu, where you couldnt work with a standart daw
@@g3nius That and having multiple programs open, speed, workflow etc.
@@whitenoisestudio Running multiple programms with slow cpu makes no sense. This person should first buy a faster cpu (which is not expensive) or do resource-managment and dont run multiple programs, where RAM can be more the bottle-neck, instad CPU. The "only" cloud-computing solution" to cover "slow cpu and/or low memory users" makes no sense for me, to justify that. Why not give both options, to calculate local or on cloud? I think its pretty strang, the only cloud-computing solution.
I definitaly will go with Spectral Layers.
I have Cubase 11 pro and i can't find spectral layers, everyone says that's it's included, but when I checked' on Steinberg, it cost like 300 Euro's
Spectralayers is a separate install, you should download it via the steinberg download center. Then you can open it in Cubase as ara extension on an audio clip.
@@whitenoisestudio done, thank you very much
It’s not really clearly documented I must admit. Enjoy Spectralayers!
shared your video with other content creators on Twitter. I would have tagged you, but don't think that you are on Twitter.
Hey sekrit! Many thanks man! I'm actually in twitter - --> @whitenoizstudio other names were taken unfortunately.
Woah this seems like dark magic 😂
He Erwin! Just some smart analytics of the programs. If you look closer at these 3 you'll notice they target the same things.
Bass, vocal, drums and a form of "the rest" because these can be analyzed the best. With vocal they detect the root note of a voice with it's harmonics and higher frequency stuff like sibilants (t's and esses) and extract only those frequencies at the right spot. Sometimes it's hard for an algorithm to hear the right parts, so that's why for instance the attack of the bass get's removed at times.
@@whitenoisestudio awesome stuff, really clever indeed... That probably means the plugins will work more precise with a higher sample rate?
I had a lecturer in computational musicology who once said: "scientifically speaking, these plugins shouldn't be able to exist". I like that thought 😋
@@erwinvanoostenbrugge Nah, the important musical content happens in the low and mid of the frequency spectrum.
Higher samplerates dont change that.
I dont understand that quote. It's bot the most difficult thing to create, the excecution is a different story.
You take for instance a transient which you can detect, look if there's a big low end happening at the same time, you offset a few models / general set of rules against it, look if it matches and extract. - Bassdrum extracted. This is very simplified but not undoable at all.
So from your video the demix pro2 is the best ? how about spleeter gui ?
spectralayers won this shootout. Demix Pro 2 got recently updated especially for vocals extraction. Didn’t have had the chance to test it. Spleeter is part of Acoustica 7 if I’m correct and I compared the vocal extraction algorithm of that in a second video:
ruclips.net/video/0vWu1hpsGhU/видео.html
@@whitenoisestudio Spleeter GUI is it’s own stand alone software that if it’s not deserving of it’s own review it’s at least worthy of a comparison video and the added bonus is it’s free software.
There are a few more as well. Spleeter is the basis for many stem extraction software and def worth a check. Adding to my list, hit 'n mix is on it as well.
rx 8 100%
Awesome!!
8 isn't much better than 7 tbh...
@@diarykeeper It's improved for sure. More on par with others, still a bit behind.