How This Streamer Destroyed Her Career In One Stream...
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2023
- This is JustaMinx, a Twitch streamer with over 2 million followers who has recently gone down a very disturbing, tragic and painful path leading to her losing thousands of followers and subscribers every single day…
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Sorry about the audio mix + other minor bugs throughout the video, posted this whilst on a holiday. I get back "home" tomorrow where I'll have my workspace back. ❤
You know she was in the biggest boxing event last year? The original creator clash by Idubbz & had the best fight of the night.. if you didn’t know this, you didn’t do your research properly.
@@dantheman8x564 hug
Bro wtf are you talking about you put a type write sound every time text appeared on the screen this is like 10/10 editing for RUclips
Every one and a half minutes in your video, comes a double Add 🤬🤬🤬
You lost a new subscriber very fast
I didn't even notice it, so it should be fine, good video as always
People giving her more alcohol when they know she has problems and calling the dude a simp for trying to stop it, wtf.
Welcome to the world of instant gratification where people promote hurting yourself over actually bettering yourself.
Most of them were clearly unconfortable but that dude was the only decent people who didn't care about his image and tried to stop it
Simp? How is that simping? If he was a simp he probably would encourage Minx to do what she wants and detest anyone saying she has a problem.
What some good "friends"
@@llamaniaman4002 You forgot that's the world now where trying to be nice gets you put on metaphorical deathrow. Also gotta love that apparently trying to help a friend who is a girl either makes you a creep or a simp.
Streamers are rarely true friends to each other, there are some people with genuine friendships but most of the time the so-called friends streamers have are just trying to leach viewership from each other, so I'm not surprised someone was indulging her sickness for content
The Esfand clip was infuriating, He’s portrayed as a “party pooper” all because he stood up for Minx not having alcohol, and seeing Schlatt, a normally loud, energetic, funny guy look dead serious and tired was chilling to see and really makes people realize that this wasn’t a joke
Esfand was the only one actually doing something to make her not drink.
@@CottidaeSEAmiz covered her mouth with his board so him too. The others were stunned
Even Miz which I was surprised by. It is absolutely disgusting that these "friends" of her tried to get alcohol into her. Miz, Schlatt, Esfand and some of the others did not look comfortable with what was happening.
@HolyChesusCrust I just seen a face of them being done with the actual situation they probably dealt with it so much they stopped caring and trying to stop her from drinking when their efforts were being ignored
Schlatt looks so tired of their bullshit
I also want to just point out how horrible and toxic most of the people around her were. The fact Esfand was called a simp for trying to prevent someone not doing something that could endanger her life is telling. The whole time she's falling apart, people just stand around laughing, jeering, and enabling her. Yeesh
You cannot tell adult what to do tho.. Owner of the house could tell her "if you drink, i dont want you here" or something like that but they cannot physical force her... btw they guy is Nick Polom and the girl trying to pour the Jack is his girlfriend Malena, they arent really in circle with Minx but they must alteast heard that Minx is crazy when she is drinking.. To be devils advocate they could be unaware that Minx isnt fun crazy but scary crazy drunk.. Yeah, Esfand is probably only real adult in OTK
She's horrible and toxic too.
To be fair their faces were all dead serious and not at all amused. Sure, they should've all took the lead from Esfand and tried to manifest themselves, but at the very least, you have to acknowledge that most people in that room weren't really incentivizing it
@@lbakicz Oh true but there would have been a broken bottle. I can't tell you what to do, but I don't have to watch you kill yourself.
@@lbakiczWhat are you talking about? You can absolutely tell an adult what to do, if they it's another story, but who tf is preventing you from telling an addict that she can't YOUR booze in YOUR party? Especially when you've told her that she can only be there if she drinks (Which is alredy a stupid thing to ask of an addict if you know people are going to be taking her drug of choice). Just kick her out when the moment she insists on drinking, if you don't and you act like the people trying to prevent her from doing it because it ruins ~the vibes~, you can't act like you weren't an idiot too.
Esfand is so high in my esteem because of his action in the clip. He had the guts to cut the crap and risk making everything akward in front of so many people because he was actually concerned and being a good guy. All my love goes out to him and I truly hope minx can recover.
Same with mizkif he was the one who blocked her mouth
true, he is one of the few streamers that is not a duckbag
Nah cuck ger
seriously. I respect the FUCK outta esfand i wanna give him a hug for that hes real as fuck for what he did. stood on his ground for what was right, a real man. love to see it
Esfand has always been a real one since even the pre-Classic private server days. A true paladin.
I'll forever stand behind Esfand for trying to be a good person in that type of situation. To be called a "simp" over caring about someone's health is so wild to me.
I think the one guy was trying to make the situation less serious by joking but it totally missed the mark. Hell I don't think most people would've been able to tell a good joke in this situation, and that's if a joke is even a permissible thing in this situation.
Some brodys not smart enough to realize people have died from taking medicine and alcohol.
Internet has poisoned us. Every caring action is seen to always have alterior motives
@@koalabro6118 How about keeping your gf in check when she is doing something like that? Nick is a total cuck for this alone. I am very sure he understood that it's wrong, and all he did was sit there and stare.(let's not talk about the many other occasions).
@@sana-chan6912is that that losers name? Nah that was malice not ignorance. He saw her as content not a human.
Esfand being a real man and trying to be responsible for someone else's choices is hard to watch. He really tried to stop people indulging her illness.
Who tf was the other girl and what tf is wrong with her
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 Malena. Girlfriend of nmplol.
@@TheDoctorSlug Yeah geez , she was being incredibly dumb . Read the room , and get a clue
Schlatt sitting there stone faced actually made me laugh
Unfortunately I don't think minx understands the gravity of addiction yet. It is a progressive illness it won't stop until everything is gone.
9:24 the fact schlatt looks uncomfortable and concerned shows how bad the situation is. Schlatt is a heavy drinker and is definitely very crazy and out there. The fact he looks uncomfortable is crazy
yeah hes like. this isnt funny anymore she actually needs help :/
@@Peron1-MC I just pray minx can get better
as someone who gets wasted and makes an ass out of myself, that doesn't make it easy to watch when someone else is doing it
This is me 100% fuck I wold of Ben yelling fuck my imagage fame I wold have gotten up just to tell people wtf is wrong with us 😊
yea poor shlitt, he didn't even look this upset after he committed those terrible crimes in 99
As an alcoholic myself with ten years of sobriety under my belt, I think what Minx really needs right now is to digure out what triggers her having a drink, finding some real friends (that stream where they didn't listen to the one guy who said she cannot drink told me a hell of a lot about all of them), and just staying away from high stress places in general.
sober sober it's the way
@@yuasick6686yeah. I unfortunately don’t think she can have a good relationship with alchohol this early into her process. She shouldn’t learn when to drink moderately she needs to go sober
She weirdly gives off the vibe that in any of her ‘normal clips’ whether on her own or out at events with people that she has already had two-three drinks beforehand no matter the time of day as a sort of confidence booster and maybe the minx we’ve seen on shows with streamers etc have been her slightly drunk all along? Either way she clearly has an issue with anxiety or something along those lines if she can’t speak to a man she finds attractive but comes across majorly outgoing on all her streams and around other streamers
Also QTs Tweets were so disgusting as she knew Minx was sick and then was kicking her when she was at her rock bottom
Congrats on 10 years!!!
Seeing Schlatt and Asmon, two guys I know for taking the piss and being funny in not funny situations, just sit there in complete defeat is wild. Props to Esfand for being a homie and trying to keep everyone safe, the dude is a good man.
A room full of absolute pussys that wouldn't step in, they should be ashamed
Miz also blocked Minx's mouth with his whiteboard.
Really it's just Malena who was problematic and Nick who was downplaying the severity of the situation.
I know, Schlatt just looked so disappointed in her
Asmongold looked like it was the last place he wanted to be 😂
@@JayBigDadyCyyeah he's thinking he'd rather be wiping more blood on his walls and complaining about sjws
The fact that her friend keep giving her alcohol when she is informed that she is on meds and can’t shows you the type of person she is
Not just malena. The people around just sitting afk too. They are equally as responsible.
@@vaguehenri802exactly
@@vaguehenri802 nah u can see asmongold looks shocked there only so much u can do and one of them puts a bored in the way
@@vaguehenri802 nah if you know anybody like this it gets to a point where you just have to let people make their choices and things end how they end. I', sure that's not the first, tenth, or 15th time they've dealt with it
I'm sure none of you ever did anything irresponsible and possibly life threatening to yourselves or anyone else.
9:27 Calling someone a "simp" for trying to look after someone is the worst kind of asshole.
Many people are rightfully praising Esfand but I wanna give props to Mizkif also. He may not have said anything, but he literally blocked Milena from pouring the alcohol with his whiteboard when she wouldn't listen to Es and I think having the presence of mind to not just react but react quick enough and in a manner that doesn't escalate the situation should be commended.
Seeing Jschlatt look genuinely uncomfortable whenever Esfand and the others were arguing over if Minx could drink or not was probably also supposed to be a tell-tale sign. He's sitting there and he looks *genuinely* upset and uncomfortable. I feel bad for everyone who has been stuck in this situation because of everything and I genuinely hope that Minx becomes a better person and learns how to genuinely heal.
Seeing Schlatt who normally plays a character of being energetic and angry, be actually uncomfortable and disturbed was the nail in the coffin for me.
Not gonna lie it was the first time i saw that look on his face.
So why didn't he say something? He is just sitting there. Most people have been in a situation where their mates have gotten a retarded idea and you're the only voice of reason.
9:17
@Vague Henri
Bro.. he knows it’s pointless. He’s been friends with her for a while and has obviously done a lot behind the scenes to get her help. Her friendship (and fake will-they-won’t-they) is a big reason she even moved to the US. It’s clear he looks and felt defeated because he knew nothing he could do, bar physically restraining her/preventing her from drinking, would’ve done anything.
Your sentiment of “why didn’t he say something and just sat there” is incredibly disingenuous and spoken like someone who’s convinced they would’ve been the savior of the situation that’s out of everyone else’s hands..
Jeeeesus, that scene at 9:00.
You can practically feel the awkwardness in that room as Melena "jokingly" attempts to mix Minx's pills with alcohol with Esfand telling her to stop.
Sclatt is silent and looks like an actual corpse, Miz is helping by putting his clipboard in Minx's face, and Asmongold confused as to what is even happening.
One thing that is extremely shitty is the fact that the dude in the grey shirt with the sweatpants is calling Esfand a simp for telling Melena that Minx can't drink alcohol as her pills could turn lethal and Melena for doing that in the first place.
Melena the Bitch of OTK
Regardless of is she had a problem with alcohol, it was obvious that she was trashed and shouldn’t have had more alcohol regardless of her relationship with alcohol. I hope that this situation with Minx will make that “what would you do?” Question a lot clearer for everyone involved and for everyone watching. In a perfect world, when someone is that trashed, everyone in that room should have at least agreed with the guy who was trying to stop that other chick from giving her more alcohol. Hopefully more of them will say something in a similar situation in the future
@@eternallurker9459 I guess he doesn't like nick 😂
@@eternallurker9459 eehh i watched most of the peeps from otk for almost 2 years and just found out asmond owns part of the org like a couple months ago 😂 🤷🏽.
@@eternallurker9459 yeah fuck that guy for not knowing every large streamer on a first name basis.
Chronically online doesn't cover it anymore, people be movin closer to terminally online by the day.
I had never seen the clip at 9:09 before but it's crazy.
Schlatt being completely silent and looking lost, for a guy thats usually the most insane addition to a situation is crazy.
Esfand trying to get everyone to stop and being looked down on for it, and Miz silently supporting him by blocking Minx's mouth
Its a wild combo... and it shows how serious it had gotten for the people who really knew
Minx is an extreme example of what Alcohol can do to people in an acute setting. Even if you don't get smashed every night and just keep it to a few in the evenings, it can build up and trash your nerves and brain. Drink responsibly. I wish Minx every success in her redemption arc and that her friends will be waiting when she's better.
Better yet, don't drink at all.
Seeing Jschlatt, a guy who’s always comedic, funny, entertaining, and all of that, looking genuinely upset is the most disturbing part of this.
I don't know much about them but what is he to her? friend, boyfriend, cousin?
@@brokemono he was just her friend
He kinda plays up his brazen persona who doesn't give a fuck on screen, it works for him, but behind the scenes I have heard from a few people he's a genuinely nice dude and a good friend, so it doesn't surprise me that he's concerned.
@@Lil_Yuriive watched his stuff ever since the start of smplive, and i can say that his personality is definitely covering a very genuine and down to earth person. current day proof of this would be theweeklyslap channel, where he just talks about some more serious topics
I agree but it's definitely not the most disturbing part when someone jas a s8bstance problem
I understand why everyone just froze in that situation. They didn't know what to do or even how to respond. The stream shows that Esfand is truly a great guy who can spring into action and help those in need.
I can't really blame them, if i was in this situation i wouldn't be able to even process what was happening until it was too late
The brat tryin to feed her the liquer is showing some straight up evil mentality being told by folks that not only cause she’s an alcoholic but meds were involved and then she acknowledged it..... just to go right back to puttin the bottle in her mouth.
@@sthefanybatista2101 Yeah it's shit. Luckily I don't drink or any of the sort but in this situation I definitely would've been like jschlat just sitting there with that look
@@sthefanybatista2101 sad
Just shows they all suck as friends besides that guy . They aren't real friends .
I had to unsubscribe... I understand that putting Penguinz0 on the thumbnail will get people to click on the video, that's ok. But doing that even though he is not even in the video is ridiculous. I'm sure you don't need my subscription and won't even read this, but I just wanted to say it. Good luck
I had noticed that too, he's in nearly every thumbnail, still appreciate all the work he's putting in but that's a bit of a cheap trick!
shut up you beg no body cares
Yea true like he might get on his own channel one day lol
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"I need to know when to stop drinking" No. Minx needs to STOP drinking entirely. Her current mindset won't allow her to heal.
As a recovering alcoholic, I understand what she's going through. The admission of addiction and lack of self control is the start, and she is still in denial. Hope she wakes up before she completely ruins her life.
She's a child, this is just a child acting out for attention really. I don't know why you guys take her so seriously.
@@jamie6387its way beyond acting out. People take it seriously because its a serious problem. You obviously have zero knowledge about addiction.
@@jamie6387 But she is not a child anymore, she is the main person responsible for her own well-being, and her addiction to alcohol is truly something that is destroying her.
Alcoholism is incredibly serious, and it's not something that you can cure either, alcoholics live fighting alcohol all their lives. More so, if you add something like bpd to the mix, all it takes is one manic episode and she is back to square one.
@@jamie6387 If you see a house on fire do you think the house is just acting out? 🤔 Much like a fire it takes only a spark, or in this case, a drink, to completely destroy someone.
I know what it feels like. Alcohol is a depressant and makes you more outgoing... to unstable and dramatic people it's really one of the worst drugs you could take. If you're not careful you get stuck in complete indifference
Moving to LA + Mental illness + Drugs + Alcohol and so much more is genuinely the easiet spell for tragedy. I want her to get help but how long has her support system and influencers around her tried to help just for nothing to happen?
Skid row coming in hot
@@CharlieMartini222
That is why we should not live in overrated cities in the US because they just spread you toxic cultures unlike most of Asian countries.
She doesn't care about her audience. All she care, money that come to her, and how famous she is.
I’m from la born and raised here , 80 percent or more of the people on skid road and even this type of people come from out of state
@@antbus123 And?
Her chat is just so disgusting. How can you be so horrible to someone having a mental breakdown while drunk. I really hope she gets better.
I feel for Minx. Not only is she clearly going through a rough patch in her life, but she's doing so with millions of people watching. I'm sure it's hard trying to balance the perspective that you need help, while also defending yourself from some of the ruthless haters. I hope that she finds peace and doesn't need to rely on numbing the pain as much.
Man, seeing Schlatt sit there just, defeated, broken, while otherwise it's the jolliest chap around is just soul tearing.
I suppose it was another breaking point between him and OTK. The Chance allegations being the final nail in the coffin between him and the org.
@@Jo-un6esSchlatt was part of OTK at some point ?
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 he’s a co-owner
@@JesseCS75 Going by the clip I saw yesterday, Asmon would the owner, correct ?
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 yes, he’s one of the original creators
Insane respect for Esfand. I like a lot of these streamers but when it actually came down to it Esfand was adamant about what was objectively not safe even when getting flack about it
I wish I could be the Esfand in situations like that, I hope to work up to that level one day.
It's actually so fucked up how he was treated during that. If being a simp means trying to keep your friends safe and alive then wear that badge with honor.
@@htspencer9084 Lmfao spoken like a true "niceguy"
@@br2716???
@@deadonarrival909facts that sht was crazy. Respect to esfand for actually being a good person. Also him miz and schlatt were the only people not smiling in the room when all this was happening. You can see how uncomfortable that shit was
in my 20 years i've never thought "Club Penguin Horror Videos" could be an actual sentence
I first found out who minx was through jshlatt and I thought she was funny, shlatt is typically not one to be fazed by drama, but when minx was being fed alcohol in the turkey suit, shlatts face told the whole story
Good on mizkif and especially Esfand for trying to stop Melina from giving alcohol to Minx. I get it's awkward but the fact that Melina tried to do that and everyone just let it happen except for those two is crazy. And then Nick calling Esfand a simp, dude you're the one that's simping not willing to tell a woman she's in the wrong.
@@BobBob-io2hi The same things the two people who were doing something were? Stop the person trying to feed alcohol to someone who shouldn't be drinking. It ain't that hard
@@BobBob-io2hi No excuse.
Ah, is that who that jackass was?
Calling Esfand a simp for being a decent human.. gross
@@BobBob-io2hi doesn't matter, if in any moment someone's on medication that could be lethal to mix with alcohol or if someone is an alcoholic that you love dearly, you have a responsibility as a friend to say "hey, no, that's a very bad idea" and actually help out wtf.
I’m deleting this because I keep getting notifications sorry :(
You know it's bad if even schlatt looks really uncomfortable. I hope she gets the help she needs and shame on her friend that was "joking" about giving her alcohol.
For real. The look on his face is just completely uncomfortable holy shit
i didnt knowhow schlatt would look uncomfy for real, now i have seen it , i feel really bad for the dude , i would react the same as the guy "simping" triying to avoid the girl to be drown in alcohol , but sadly the mayority took is as "jaja funny, is getting wasted"
Yeah this was the first time I've ever seen schlatt be uncomfortable it's so shocking too see
I mean he is also no longer there
You have a clever username
"First person to ever go to ireland to detox from booze" in that twitch had me dying 💀
There was a RUclipsr by the name of Paul who ran the channel mittensquad. He had a massive alcohol problem, I loved his content and its horrible he won't get to share his passion with gaming to the world anymore.
Yeah man, miss Paul. Always hoped for his return. Cant even begin to express how much joy is skyrim videos gave me with all the baskets.
Miss that dude, and his last video about can you beat fallout addicted to every chem is just haunting now.
Really miss the dude.
For her friends to feed her more alcohol just shows what kind of friends they are, good on esfand for trying to help her
Wow thanks for 10k!
Yeah in that clip you can see the disappointment on him and Schlatt's faces. Malena is a horrible person who constantly eggs on stuff like this and yet she somehow gets away with it every time, goes to show how the people running OTK are more interested in covering for themselves than doing the right thing...
He got called a simp for wanting her to be safe, we live in a society
Yeah the fact that NO ONE else even said a word to Malena speaks volumes about what they think of Minx. Just a tool to get views.
People in Nmplols channels always brush aside Malenas bully attitude as a bit or camera personality but clips like this show she is just a straight up bully and alcoholic.
She was living with the Botez sisters and QT for a while, they didn’t feed her alcohol, she already was doing it herself. Plus, she did most of her stuff on her own with her own choices, is easy to blame everyone else and avoid personal accountability
Malena and nick were blacked out during that clip. Everyone who was sober enough was telling them to stop
Jesus.
They all looked so uncomfortable, you could tell just by the faces of some of them like Soda and Schlatt that they knew how wrong this was. If anything positive at all came out of that situation, it's knowing that Minx has people who care about her and are willing to step in for her sake.
something else we should take away is how shitty malenas and nicks behaviour was as well. esfand was being a good and caring friend whilst nick called him a simp. wtf?
@@jadedalex9963 Malena we no doubt only going content mode at that moment and not thinking about repercussions at all. Really unfortunate judgement on her part.
Nick though, I personally think he was looking around and seeing how uncomfortable everyone was and tried to make a joke to lighten the mood... but that joke didn't land the way he was hoping. I can sympathize, because humor is how I handle a lot of situations myself, both serious and not, and I've had to catch myself quite a few times from spewing a joke in situations that make me or people around me uncomfortable that I'm usually lucky enough to realize won't land before I say it, but there have been two incidents in particular that I still can't forget from just how bad I feel for not thinking things through before trying to make light of a situation.
Gladly, I've never done any lasting damage to any relationships I have from it, and both times people didn't seem to really be mad or anything from it, but you can still tell you fucked up in situations like that before you even finish speaking. Trying to keep things from getting too heavy can be a lot harder in some public situations (like, for instance, during a massive livestream where you don't want to make the vibes awkward in front of thousands of people) than a lot of people realize. This was, in MY opinion, just someone trying and failing miserably to stop that from happening, not realizing that this wasn't the right time and place to deflect with humor.
Based on how schlatt, being so happy in his streams and thete looking genuinely concerned was a punch in the fucking gut. :/
@@jadedalex9963 i think nick was just trying to defuse the situation but is a dumbass.
Please refrain from using Jesus's name as a profanity. It is blasphemous.
xqc the type of guy to go up to a crack addict and tell them to just stop doing crack
Normally you watch these videos and just think it's deserved but I just feel sorry for her. I hope she gets the help she needs.
Malena is disgusting for trying to feed alcohol to someone while literally being told she shouldn't be having alcohol, both her and nick are trash tier humans
they're completely fine humans, This was a party and it was a dumb sporadic thing to do in the moment but do realise that minx isn't the only one that can get dragged along the ride and not everyone had the full story.
To just jump fully into drama and denounce their entire humanity is just as silly and is only a way to find someone to dislike to make oneself feel superior
@@Redcloudsrocks sunken cost fallacy. those tier 3s to her aren't gonna pay off little bro. malena is a enabling cunt and should feel like a bad person
People are neither angels or demons, condemning people like this is asinine.
@@l-y-d-s some people are bad some are good that's how life is. denying that is asinine. people can 100% be judged and held accountable for how they handle themselves and how people react in certain situations is how they truly are. how we react when we are scared, stressed, happy, sad, angry, is how we will always react
@@Redcloudsrocks Hey just a small life tip: Trying to force alcohol or other substances onto somebody, no matter the circumstances, is a fucking shitty move. Do not ever engage in such a thing and please always speak up and call people out on their trash behavior.
This is very, VERY far from destroying her career in one stream. Her career isn't destroyed and it *definitely* didn't happen in one stream. It happened in multiple, and multiple times off stream.
Yea but saying “how this streamer harmed her career over the course of many streams” doesn’t attract as many views
@@matthewwelch423 true, and also "almost ended her carrer" isn't attractive as well. and comparing her now to how she was back in the day her career is way closer to be over than it ever was.
@@matthewwelch423click bait still sucks
a dude doing this would be cancelled. This is what happens when you give thots money and attention.
@@mikeespinoza5733go outside
Clip at the end kinda shows she still had people enabling her, "I need to know when to stop drinking", no, you need to stop drinking, period. There is no such thing as drinking in moderation for an alcoholic. She needs people around her to get this through her head, or she will be in an early grave.
This is just sad, I’m currently getting help for alcoholism and I pray she’s reached out to get herself help
8:55 Esfand is a fucking hero man - the way he's trying to look after her from her other "friends" here - even though it makes him look like a kill joy, he's a good lad. Respect
He would rather step out, speak up, and outcast himself in that current time to protect someone he actually had as a friend
Any adult person who reacts that way when someone *else* is being offered alcohol should never even be considered "killjoy" behavior. It means that person truly understands that their friend or acquaintance has a serious issue that they themselves don't see, and they're desperately trying to help in any way they can even if it means being looked at weird because it's out of context. I don't know why I'm explaining this lol, y'all clearly get it.
Melena acts like a fking teenager. I don't get what people like about her. What a nice friend to have!
Honestly the fact that Malena just ignored the fuck out of Esfand and Nick sat there and egged it on and called Esfand a simp just speaks volumes to how trashy those two are. Malena and Nicks comedy is generally not bad, but that situation shed a lot of light on just how terrible they are and how much money runs their lives.
especially mizkif for blocking any alcohol from entering her mouth
She should've never left ireland and being so far away from her family.
It literally ruined her life after being surrounded by people who do nothing good to her.
I miss the time when she and jschlatt just fooling around on the phone. Those times were gems.
And now, I don't think jschlatt wants to associate with her anymore(at least online)
Jschlatt has probably been burned to much, hes probably tried to get her help which led to her pushing him away and burning bridges as she's done with other people we know about. Its really sad and i hope she will recognize her alcholohism and get help, real lasting help
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 her pushing people away and burning bridges isn't because she's an alcoholic, it's because she's got borderline personality disorder. A fear of abandonment and an inability to regulate negative emotion results in her "testing" people; and when things get tough, cut all ties.
@@mmoogl3547 it’s both, bpd mixed with addiction isn’t a good combo
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 Absolutely, but that's the case for the majority of people with BPD. They are five times more likely to develop substance abuse disorders than the average person.
~ Sidenote ~
When you treat BPD you first have to treat the addiction that they're most likely struggling with, as it not only introduces more problematic symptoms to the mix, but also overlaps with and reinforces existing ones.
In Minx's case, she's got two things that on their own would make it near impossible to have healthy interpersonal relationships, and people seem to think there's only one.
@@mmoogl3547 and it doesnt help that everyone is lashing out at people like shlatt for “letting her be like this” from that stream clip when god only knows how hard they’ve tried behind the scenes to help her with her addiction issues, especially when in cases like this, there is absolutely nothing you CAN do if the person themself is not 100% willing to accept help or that they have a problem to begin with
And I can definitely relate to both "problem drinking" (not being great at stopping once you start) and drinking as a coping mechanism. I can definitely see why people who have poorly managed depression, major trauma, etc drink all day everyday. Thankfully, I've only ever had to deal with self limiting periods of grief and/or stress that compelled me to use substances as an unhealthy coping mechanism. I really feel for people who are basically stuck in a relentless state of _needing_ to self medicate.
Now that I'm in my mid-30s, hangovers are literally *unbearable* and they usually last over 24 hours. This has been a blessing in terms of harm reduction, because it deters me from drinking hard alcohol. I used to be able to drink an entire fifth+ of 40% alcohol by volume if I was really _really_ going through it in life. Now it's easy to make the choice to stick with beer that's ~5%ABV. And I never buy anything above 20%ABV. I'm too *CHONKY* to get drunk on beer. So, while it's not great to drink an entire 18 pack in one night, it _is_ much safer and much less likely to result in chaotic decisions.
If anyone out there is dealing with substance use issues, I'm really hoping that things will mellow out for you soon. Whether due to age or due to finally getting the support that you deserve ❤️ hang in there. I've delt with other types of substance use issues that weren't just intermittent like my relationship with alcohol. So I know how miserable and impossible it often feels.
Can you turn the music volume up more next video? I could still hear what was being said.
I mean... The only time the music got 'loud' was when a clip that he didn't own was shown. The music is needed so that part doesn't get claimed automatically by youtube, because if that happens, you just have the clip with NO SOUND AT ALL. Which is a lot worse than a clip with extra music.
If you cared to read, he did apologize for the sound, as video was made while on holiday.
"The problem is when I go to a party I need to know when to stop drinking." No minx, you can't drink at all because when you start you CANT stop. She's gunna keep going downhill till she wakes up and understands that. I would know I was a heroin addict for 16 years and have 8 months of sobriety today. This chick needs help for real for real. Just staying at home with her family ain't gunna do shit.
Congratulations. Fwiw, I am proud of you
Exactly. And mayyybe one day she might be able to participate in drinking or smoking casually. After ten years, I can. But I didn’t get here over night. It was a decade of learning and growing and changing, until mind altering substances were no longer a crutch for me.
She needs to help herself...as an ex alcoholic no one could help me till I hit rock bottom, then I acknowledged my problem and made the conscious decision to quit on my own..
@@Awesum agreed, but egging her on isn’t doing her any favors either
@cheshethecat that may be so..but we are the result of our choices...she inserts herself into these situations and chooses to be with those who are a detriment to her...she has friends that have tried to help her and has more than likely lied to them and ruined those relationships..thankfully all my drinking buddies were older and very supportive of my decision to stop.
Esfand trying to literally keep her out of the hospital and the others just ignoring such vital medical situation is sickening. Disgusting. Depending on what she was taking, she could have fucking died, stroke. Brain damage. All the outcomes are life changing. So frustrating as someone who has dealt with alcoholics far more than my own mental health could handle. Thanks Esf.
Pretty out of pocket to call all the other people in the room ‘sickening’ and ‘disgusting’. Minx is a grown adult and is solely responsible for her own actions - plus, it’s not so easy to speak up against someone when they have a history of being unacceptably abusive to people trying to help.
@@reservoirfrogs4280 relax knight. She wont notice you.
@@SomeOne-ex7hk hahaha imagine being so brain damaged that you read my comment and thought I was defending minx when I was literally doing the opposite. Get your carer to explain it to you maybe?
Hardly a surprise your mental health is weak when you’re as idiotic as you are 😂
@@reservoirfrogs4280 Her "friend" was informed she shouldn't be drinking alcohol but insisted on giving her alcohol despite the addiction and medical situation. If that's not disgusting, then idk what is. Also calling the one dude, that did try to stop her from drinking because he actually cared, a simp shows that most of these people are shallow assholes that don't actually care for each other despite calling them friends.
@@duckbrigade5009 yes I completely agree. What I meant by ‘other’ is the people in the room not getting involved/saying anything. I think it’s weird to call them out for not getting involved and babysitting her - minx is abusive af and it shouldn’t be on other people to police her actions and risk getting screamed at
holy cow. 10/10 document, minus the audio issues with music being louder than your commentary.
it's sad to see someone as big and entertaining as she was, to fall to her demise just from alcohol.
I've been there myself and it does suck, I do hope she seeks help and gets better
"Just alcohol"..... If you really did watch it you'd know it was more than "just alcohol" that let to this. Bad company, bad behaviors, enabling.. Her mental issues.. The works. It all played together to do this.. Many in part being the bad IRL company, but lets not forget about how bad fans can be as well.
@@xXRoyOfDemaciaXx damn bro relax lmao no needa nitpick
I've never seen all of those streamers so uncomfortable. I feel bad to see this happen, because alcoholism is the worst shit. Watching my mom and step dad suffer from that shit hurts, and it still hurts to see anyone suffer from it.
Huge respect for Esfand for stepping up and saying something on that stream, since eveyone else were just sitting awkwardly. I don't understand why some of her friends are enabling this and even encouraging it, there is a reason why people shouldn't mix alcohol with medication
A lot of those friends have tried to help her and clearly just have no idea what else they can do.
You can see how hopeless Schlatt looks about the whole situation. Guy's sense of humor sucks, but he's clearly shattering apart seeing her like this.
@@TimedRevolver just fucking take the bottle from her
@@TimedRevolver Yeah he's usually very animated and loud and is "angry" as joke. But dude geuinely looked like he was straight up in shock there.
"when i go to a party, i need to know when to stop drinking"
why go to a party anyways? ive got addiction problems and parties were the first thing i had to cut out my life. telling yourself "i can drink, i just have to know when to stop" is the bullshit i said to myself aswell. and then i still got drunk the next week or even day. then i stopped going to parties and drink alcohol in general, and look at that im sober for now over 2 years.
Too bad she's in a culture where drinking is almost mandatory and any western country will enable this abuse. I doubt she'll be willing to make the lifestyle choice to quit since it seems to be part of her identity for problem solving.
At the very least, she needs to get it out of her head that she can drink, period. Alcohol is off the table now, because she clearly can't control herself.
Ok but, and obviously not her, BUT there are people who can do that and maintain. Addiction is NEVER that simple just because you experience it one way doesn't mean they would or *should* either. Js
Unfortunately until she figures this out she is setting herself up for repeated failure.
That's because she wants to have her cake and eat it too. I'm sorry but that's like a massively obese guy saying "I just need to find a way NOT to eat 9 burgers every time I go to McDonalds." No, dummy, you have to stop going to mcdonalds. She doesn't get to go to parties because she can't be trusted. That's just the way it is. She will realize it eventually.
As someone who was in a very similar situation to Minx, this was so difficult to watch. But a big difference between me and her is that my struggle with addiction and mistakes that cost me friendships and relationships wasn't shown to the public via social media. I can't imagine how much of a mental toll that alone must put on a person.
I've stayed sober for almost 2 years, I hope Minx has followed suit.
5:40 that photo is from many years later, and has nothing to do with the incident being described.
Its sad to see the path Minx went down, i liked her a lot as a streamer back then. I genuinely hope she gets better, even if a lot has been ruined, i really hope she gets the help she needs
she doesn’t deserve all the blame. the people around her failed her
you dontbfeel shubyo goofy ahh up
right, but i know she'll be able to get better with the right help. But i feel like she needs to cut some things off to be able to get that good help. Parties, maybe the internet for a while if its fueling her addiction?? cause i know that can often make things worse for addictions. She just needs help period for a majority of things tbh
It's only funny she only exists for our entertainment it's not that deep, if she fucks her life so be it she's an adult.
Same. I'm still in a bit of denial tbh. Really liked her streaming personality and I can't believe it all went this way.
9:00 you can literally see on all the guys' faces how uncomfortable the situation was. even schlatt of all people was visibly uncomfortable because AS THEY SHOULD BE. imagine actively encouraging a known alcoholic (especially one who is on medication) to drink alcohol like no wonder her situation got worse? when someone tried to intervene he was ignored and called a "simp"
i am amazed that the creator clash had no mention in all this clip. if i can remember correctly in the first ever creator clash boxing match set, justaminx fought against yodelling hailley, only barely taking the win in a judge call as no knockout occurred
8:58 is actually heartbreaking. I only know her through schlatt and seeing him like that, is a first....
Seeing schlatt at 9:12 looking genuinely uncomfortable by this is kinda heartbreaking. Huge respect to him for not escalating the situation and especially Esfand
is that the twat who mouthed what looked like "women.." during the drama?
Why are people randomly just hyping schlatt for sitting there
@@r8gg because usually he’s the one being extra, making ill timed jokes, or just throwing shit around the room but he realized she genuinely has a problem and wasn’t feeding into it and enabling her. They were really close friends years ago so it was probably really terrible for schlatt to see her act this way
@@dyldog Low standards then
@@r8gg ????
As an ex-regular viewer of Minx, this hurt to watch. I feel genuinely sad for her and I hope she can get help... she's not okay, and the alcohol isn't the only problem either. There's just too much to unpack. Her community is very aware of it and the surrounding communities too... Its sad
Can you tell me what happened at the end? There was an argument with her sister about her mom enabling someone? And then something about p-do allegations? Where did that come from? Is minx one? Or was she in a relationship with someone who is, and she and her mom enabled that guy?
@@jasonvargas7564 stop being parasocial, you don't know the situation, and neither do we because it's not ours to know. It's their family drama, nothing to do with her life on the internet.
@@tortellinifettuccine excuse me, someone being a child molester has to do with everyone in the world. This isn’t some tata eastbrook and james Charles situation where he didn’t promote her multivitamin gummies and so she cancelled him, type of situation. There’s a criminal involved, and innocent children being abused (allegedly). If those allegations are true, then that person needs to be brought to justice. How dare you trivialize this as just some nonsensical internet drama?
@@jasonvargas7564 what the fuck are you talking about you terminally online parasocial looser lmao, get the fuck out of the basement and touch some grass. There is zero evidence or basis for anything like that, only thing that happened was her sister calling her a pedo, a pedo dosent mean child molester, it means a creepy person usally in a sexual way, so the very fact you randomly assumed a child was involved is hilarious. Someone calling someone else a pedo isn't evidence of anything, especially in a family argument like that lmao. What "allegations" there haven't been any you fucking tube brain Jesus christ, UNPLUG. Also why the fuck are you talking about James Charles, an actual pedophile and child sexual abuser, and pretending like THAT situation is totally fine, but this situation that you don't even know what is about, had one person yell pedo and now all of a sudden minx is more likely to be a pedo in your eyes than James? IS that what you're saying because that's exactly how it comes across. Again, go fucking outside and start caring about REAL people in REAL life.
@@jasonvargas7564 I totally agree with you on this. It's a serious matter and it should be discussed. Chomos don't deserve human rights
Coming back to this almost a year later and I stand by what I said. I mean come on if you are an alcoholic and going to a party and then saying into a camera I need to know when to stop drinking that's the god damn ISSUE. It's an addiction and putting yourself in situations where you know you are going to want to drink while trying to recover is insanity.
It's so clear how everyone else feels when you look at the back ground people in the group videos. Such a sad story, but it's up to the person to be healthy. If they refuse help, there isn't much we can do. My heart goes out to everyone in involved.
Somebody needs to explain to her that it's not borderline alcoholic, it's full on alcoholic. If you can't stop drinking at a party, you can't stop anywhere else. Maybe it's time she let ALL SM and went into treatment not just out-patient stuff. She won't get clean until she wants to, I was an alcoholic at THIRTEEN and it took me until I was Fifteen to get there. My thing, it was back in 1976 when I needed help and there wasn't anyone willing to deal with a young teenager, finally a friends dad helped and 2 years later I was clean. I owe that great man my life for helping me when my "mother" was to busy trying to find more ways to scam the welfare system instead of dealing with the 7 kids she had. 3 father's and mine was the 2nd, we were kept hidden from him and told he died. There was no internet back then so finding her and us was impossible. Not until I was 34 did I find out he was still alive ans searched for us. It was because of the life created by that egg donor that I started drinking.
She's a child really. Nobody ever forced her to grow up and now she is dealing with it. Kind of silly people gave her this type of attention to begin with.
@@jamie6387 The fact that she is a public figure seems to provide the idea of attention seeking, but she is not a child. I have seen my fair share of addicts and their response to backlash over their addiction is to manipulate and downplay the severity. I have seen this first hand, so she is not a child. She is a person who got into a bad habit, developed a severe addiction, and she needs a good and strict support system that will be there for her. They need to congratulate every step towards sobriety and criticize every relapse. People who struggle with addiction have a very fragile mental state, and that is why she might seem like a child. The problem is she is mentaly broken at this point, and has to bring herself back to factory settings which means she has to undo 3 years of personality shifts. That is a very hard task, so I hope her family is well advised on how to behave because it is a long road ahead, and it is not paved well.
Yeah no such thing as borderline alcoholic lol you might be in the early stages of addiction but half measure like that is just denial
@@oreSimic this is true to an extent I don’t know if Id it call it mentally fragile, but a huge majority of addicts have very traumatizing past mentally and physically. But seeming like a child is very accurate description people in active addiction and alcoholism your brain stops mature and a lot of times people have to pretty much “re wire” their brains and re learn a lot of very basic stuff mentally physically and socially.
they’ve tried, she says americans are weak and don’t understand irish drinking culture lol
I have more than a few "ex" alcoholics in my family, and none of them can drink alcohol now, or they relapse. Minx thinking she just "needs to learn when to stop" just shows how she hasn't fully understood the scope of her addiction yet.
I had serval in mine as well. And the sad truth is once you reach a state of addiction, especially to a fanous boundry lifting drug such as alcohol all your fun party life is over.
Either you stay sober and miss so many events, or you just lose control at a certain level of intoxication where your addiction makes you consume more and more.
In dome cases like hers mixed with alot if unconzrolled wild behavior and potentially agression if the substance you desire is denied.
That's just the sad truth. Either you learn to drink responsibly as early as possible, or you fk up your entire young party life.
This isnt party drinking hun. Ever been on a 3 fifths a day diet? Its what they call the chronically depressed people in rehab. Look, the type of drinking that girl up there is doing isnt "party" or in any way "fun". Its horrific and it hurts. And I mean HURTS. Like your skin is on fire. The only thing worse? Detoxing, which happens within hour and you spike a MASSIVE fever as your body dumps all its excess sugar and you go into temporary "diabetic shock"(you cant burn sugar with that much alcohol in your blood). You shake so bad you cant stand or hold anything. Then, if you did it long enough, the absolutely MASSIVE seizures happen. Its insane like your arms and legs just get their own minds. I didnt drink at ALL as a teenager/young adult. Took a shot after some massive life changing shit and within a month was up to 3 fifths a day. 1 fifth for chugging, another or so to make sure the second that shit starts taping Ill have something to chug on. Also, detox will kill you faster than the alcohol. Little know fact is more than half of the deaths from alcohol(driving/OD) are literally detox death. Its the only drug you can die from same day due to detox and one of 2 that kills. Opiate/meth/ketamine users dont die from detox they just hurt awhile. @@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm
@@spoons250 I never called her addiction driven overconsumption party drinking? Quiet the opposite.
But also there is levels to this.
There is also base levrels of tolerance, and built up tolerance overtime.
Besides there is a big diffrence between responsible drinking.
And blackout drinking.
Not to mention actions around it like eating well before you head out.
What you describe is the most extreme of cases, but i can tell you as some8ne who has been to serval concerts and Rock festivals that its not as universal as youd think.
Yes alcohol is always bad, but to get to that levels of a reaction serval factors need to be met.
And in my personal circle i knew heavy alcoholics that drank up to serval bottles of pure booze. Passed out and were fine the next day. Just because the body grew that tolerant over many years.
In this case its booth about addiction, the personal tolerance and inability to limit consumption. Plus one of the negative drunk personalities wich is very destructive and chaotic.
It was doomed from the start. An alcoholic cannot stand sober on a crazy party full of alcohol. Nor stop drinking with all the aviability unless somebody steps in.
We also dont know how far her addiction is. Nor how big her tollerance.
loser mentality
its sad to see people like this, unfortantly in ireland we do all know someone who was at one point like this, or will be going like this
She needs to know when to stop? No. She needs to stop!
Bro’s cheatcode is really using Penguinz0 in the thumbnail💀
Yeah lol, like critikal isnt even in this video at all
Seriously, this channel sucks. Get more creative man.
starting to be fukn annoying
Cringe bro comment
Him and ludwig in the thumbnail for no reason
She doesn't "need to know when to stop" she needs to stop completely as soon as she can. :( As someone who suffered from alcoholism for a majority of my teens & 20's I know it takes a long time and a lot of relapses just to be confident enough to be around alcohol without losing control. I hope she gets the help she needs.
@@chaplinfan6369 Here in Britain we like to enable each other's vices, we call it peer pressure and belittle anyone refusing
Drinking and partying is fun, stop being boring
@@jord019sadly true. When I stopped drinking, it was such a weird experience. I always felt I had to justify why I wasn't drinking.
Thankfully my friends were chill, weirdly it was mostly work related stuff.
@@jord019 Depends on the friends you have around you.
Australian so it's very similar mentality here. But my mate was quitting and if anyone was about to say anything to her about it, I intercepted and didn't let her hear it cause at the start it really affected her.
I talked to our friend group and her friends that I don't know well about it and all of them have since respected her feelings, they even buy extra soft drink and shit at parties for her.
If you have the right friends, it won't happen.
"Americans are soft" all while she filled the stereotype of a non functional Irish drunk....
so sad to see her like this. she definitely needs someone to care for her until her recovery. i hope she gets the help she needs. she definitely goes through something that uses alcohol as numbing agent.
she did not ruin it in one stream. this was a very obvious end point to a situation that was completely foreshadowed numerous times. hearing that one dude trying to stop her from being force fed alcohol and qt telling her no drinking at all is a pretty clear indication those close to her and even her fans knew. this was a long, drawn out, streamed in real time out downfall. and it doesn't seem like she's too invested in stopping. listen man i drank for 7 years and went to rehab twice, i've seen this shit so many times (though not from the lens of someone with this many eyes on them). she needs to quit alcohol completely, not just stop at a few drinks. once those few drinks are down you think a few more are okay then an hour later you're trying to push propane tanks into a pool. an addict can be completely aware of the harm that they're doing, it's what they do to fix those problems that'll make or break someone. i really hope she makes the right choices going foreward.
Edit: someone commented and it brought me back to this comment. I am not sober, at all. But there's a huge difference between being sober and being in your right mind.
Yeah. Not gonna lie the signs were already there in numerous *viral* clips even, not just low-view clips and tidbits. Every time Minx has been viral on Twitch or RUclips she's been a wreck played up for jokes and laughter. The fact that the people around her exploited this in the way they did is so fucking sad.
Yeah, it being so perfectly documented to an audience of thousands is downright terrifying. Breakdowns and rock bottoms are bad enough, but to have it be in display so openly... It's some truely black mirror shit.
Honestly, I truely hope we never hear anything from Minx again, because I feel like she'll make much better progress in private.
Her thing with loose skin really proves how bad insecurity can be. She was so tiny bit just had such bad insecurity and anxiety. I also had resigned to that her manic and depressive episodes, at least back in schlinx days, were just a bit, but it seems that they may have been mich more now.
I've liked minx for years I always thought she was beautiful and fit; insecurity is a bitch to make someone not see what's seen as beauty by others.
I genuinely couldn’t understand her complaint on the skin part, that ”loose skin” was absolutely nothing lol, looks like completely normal, healthy skin to me but I guess insecurity can really skew your perspective.
Esfand and Miz have got to be some of the realest friends she had
Hearing Minx say "I need to know when to stop" really hurts. Because having dealt with the same kind of situation, there is usually no easy way to "just know when to stop," there is only drinking until you no longer can. The only solution often ends up being completely stopping the drinking until you can figure out how to live without it and even then maybe not starting again.
That Thanksgiving stream or whatever irritated me, why is Esfand the only person putting his foot down? Why's NMP okay with Malena enabling an alcoholic, or better yet, why is EVERYONE IN THE ROOM STARING SILENTLY? This isn't some rando, this is supposed to be one of your guys' friends or at the very least a colleague you work with, I'm glad Esfand had some common sense there.
He a real friend
Esfand wasn’t the only one trying to stop Malena there. You can clearly see Miz blocking the bottle. Everybody in the room is silent because they are uncomfortable with Minx’ behaviour.
@@kodek1234 It's an uncomfortable situation and no one should have to be put in that spot but if you have to, stand up and be more vocal like Esfand, if you aren't, then an already uncomfortable situation becomes worse when Minx inevitably gets belligerently wasted.
Streamer mentality left Esfand for a minute
@@aidenblaze075 anything for the content
She’s not ready for treatment yet. The end said it all. When she said she knows it sounds borderline alcoholic that she needs to know when to stop drinking at parties, no, that IS alcoholic. She doesn’t realize she already is an alcoholic. I hope she gets to her rock bottom sooner rather then later so she can actually utilize the treatment she gets and live a long happy and healthy life.
My best friend of 20 years is currently dying in the hospital because of alcohol. I had a kid and grew out of the drinking phase, meanwhile we fell out of touch and he kept drinking. He was a functioning alcoholic, always held down a job and could just hang out like the rest of us. It was when he was alone at home, depressed that he would take shot after shot until he fell asleep. He fell at work a few months ago, while getting that issue resolved they discovered he is in liver failure. He immediately quit drinking, going into withdrawals and not telling anyone. A few weeks of no drinking he continued to get sicker and sicker until almost 2 weeks ago his mom brings him to the ER bc he’s acting off, couldn’t even open the car door. By the end of the day he was on life support. His liver was done, he needed a transplant ASAP. They need to transfer him an hour away but don’t think he’ll make the trip, his parents let them do it and he hung on. His kidneys were quick to fail though too, now he needs one of those. He got put on the transplant list for maybe a day, maybe not even 24 hours, bc once his kidneys gave out too they had to remove him from the liver list. He’s too sick, won’t survive the surgery and is on life support. His parents sign a DNR and we all wait for the worst. Just 2 days ago they tried to take him off the vent, and he is breathing on his own. We don’t know why, the drs don’t know why he’s not dead yet, but alcohol absolutely put him there. This is what the future will be for Minx if she doesn’t quit now. The damage she’s already done is probably big, but the liver can heal. She isn’t too old, she’s still young and can turn her life around. Any of you can. It’s never too late to quit as long as you’re breathing.
My friend just passed away. I had forgotten about this comment but got a notification tonight it had a like. I click and see it has 13, but I’ve never gotten a notification until now. Maybe I needed to see this again who knows. But he passed 4:22 on 4/22 at 41 years old. He has 3 little girls, a family that loved him. Drinking is poison. Don’t even start. It’s not worth it. Please take his tragic ending as your wake up call, whoever is reading this.
“Never too late to quit” you say after telling us how your friend quit but it was too late?
@@Shlappz what is this point of your comment?😭
@@katyameowmeow calling out hypocrisy, this is true.
He drank so much because you put his simpin’ ass in the friend-zone 🤣 Typical woman trying to skirt responsibility for literally killing a man, nice going you evil wench.
“Hi I’m the InternetAnarchist and I’m literally SunnyV2”
The sad part is it seems shes still in denial saying its only a problem at parties and that once she starts she cant stop thats alcoholism ive got it too i can keep myself from having the first drink but once i start i go till i dont feel well
Not going to lie, I already had so much respect for Esfand, but since I didn't see that stream, I gained so much more newfound respect for the dude. He is the ONLY one actively looking out for Minx's safety with mixing alcohol with her pills (other than Miz putting up the board). I mean you can feel the awkwardness without even being there in the room. And I do remember seeing her dive onto the table at the Girls Trip and how awkward that was... I hope she finds the inner peace she desperately needs and figures out her issues, because it hurts to watch, in so many ways.
8:52 that clip legitimately nearly brought me to tears, that guy knows she has a problem and hes doing everything he can to stop this girl from encouraging it. Absolutely heartbreaking hearing him plead for her to stop
I am a recovering alcoholic and this was painful for me to watch. It just reminds me so much of me. Doing stupid crap. Getting wasted and passing out. Making everyone hate me with my actions. Drinking even when I was told not to. Painful fr.
It’s hard to see Minx like this. I haven’t even gotten through the video. She has been one of my favorite creators on the platform. It’s so sad to see her decline. I hope she understands that people still care for her. She just needs to start caring about herself.
Everyone ignoring esfand and calling him a simp, no longer are human in my eyes. They blatantly ignored his warning and fed the obvious chronic drinker more alcohal.
Definitely, and utterly, disgusting behaviour. It also shows how some people don't deserve to be influencers. If they leave impressions on people and act like that, it'll only encourage others to ignore such important matters.
Eh, it's only because simping is such a common behavior by men to try to gain favor with women. If anything I'd say they learned these shaming tactics from women & more specifically feminists
That’s extreme
i used to love how lively she was, i stopped watching her after the public breakdowns, i feel so bad for what she is going through but everyone has tried to help her already, you cannot help someone who doesn’t want help, i hope she realizes what she is doing is wrong. i want to see her recover. ♥︎
Gonna have to stop you there for a second. Speaking as someone who spent their entire childhood a wreck literally on the verge of killing myself, it's not a matter of "You cannot help someone who doesn't want help." here at all. Because I see a lot of myself in Minx. She's afraid to admit she isn't as strong as she thinks she is, because the second she pulls away that facade, it makes all her pain and misery real.
Right now she can pretend and deny. But the moment she admits she needs help, she's going to collapse in on herself. False bravado is the only thing keeping her together. The moment I finally realized I was nowhere near as strong as I thought, it ended with me overdosing on medication and trying to end myself.
So if that moment comes for her, I hope someone like Esfand is there to help save her from that collapse. Because it's going to be bad.
@@TimedRevolver This is the truth. Minx's situation is especially rough, as she has *thousands* of people watching her every move. Not to mention she's surrounded by people who actively egg her on to do things that are terrible with a mindset for content. As much as I hate to see it because I love her old content, the healthiest thing to do for her is probably take a break, if not stop streaming altogether. Minx just seems like a damaged, scared person who was given the attention of a major influencer.
@@TimedRevolver I haven't really watched much of Minx, only seen her every now and then in Schlatt's content, but she absolutely strikes me the same way too.
I just hope that whenever that moment comes for her, that she's surrounded by a lot of good people, because that kind of bottoming out...fuck man.
I'm glad you survived and are hopefully doing at least somewhat better. You deserve it.
@@TimedRevolverI agree with what you’re saying but I also disagree. I’ve dealt with drunks and addicts since I was a kid so I’ve learned that you can’t let them drag you down or you’ll end up worse then they are. Maybe after a while if she proves herself and really accepts help then she can rebuild those relationships but until then no one else has to be involved with her damage. I know it’s harsh and I’m sorry.
You get seizures from drinking too much too
Honestly, never been a fan of minx, but I hope she recovers. It's sad to see her at the end saying she needs to know when to stop drinking, when what she really needs is to stop drinking all together. At the very least for a long period of time. When you have a problem like this, you need to make peace with never drinking again, you really should want to stop drinking altogether. Some people are able to drink responsibly again one day, but not all, and not many, and even then it's after a long period of sobriety and after dealing with whatever underlying problems are tied to the drinking, be it depression, trauma, life circumstances etc.
the hardest part is the withdrawal
I don't know this girl but seeing her self-destruct and some of her "friends" encourage that kind of behavior just makes me incredibly sad. She has a lot of demons she's facing and I really do hope things in her life get better before its too late.
As someone that has been through serious alcohol issues, I feel like her friends haven’t actually tried to help her. They need to invite her to things where alcohol isn’t involved. They can’t expect her to come to a party where everyone else is drinking and expect her to abstain. If her friends really want to help her they need to hang out with her and have SOBER fun and it would really especially help her if their ask her to help them with their problems and make her feel needed too.
Fr this is what I really don’t understand, why include her at parties / events / streams where alcohol is involved, instead they could just meet up without any drinking? It’s obviously gonna be hard for an alcoholic to be around alcohol, especially when you’re in the beginning stages, seeing your friends having fun and drinking will just make you wanna join in even if you shouldn’t…
They likely don't care , gotta help yourself in the end
Calling any of these streamers actual friends would be a mistake. I don't know how many times people need to see the people in the streamer community turn on each other to figure out it's not real friendship.
9:01 bro can’t hear the guy going over and over “stop”
@@snailcheeseytjust saying 'stop' doesn't do anything, an alcoholic isn't going to stop if they have access to alcohol, so if they really want to help, either do not invite her if alcohol is there or don't have alcohol.
What the heck is wrong with people trying to get her to keep drinking when they are being told that she can't because she's on medication? Are they trying to get her killed??
Yea because she’s a damsel that needs saved by others. She can make her own decisions for herself. If this was a dude people like you wouldn’t give a shit and tell them to man up.
Esfand is the hero of that moment.
She's young so hopefully she has a lot of time to get help for this self destructive behavior - but it's really hard especially when you are surrounded by a bunch of content goblins with cameras
where the goblins at?
@@honorablelord67 the one with a pink hair trying to give her alcohol despite people telling her that minx is in medication.
Also drinking alcohol while in medicine can actually kill you
She's not young she's already like 25
@@groupvucic2235 that's quite young. I'm sure you're much younger and it doesn't seem so if you're 17 or 18, but when you get a little past 25 you'll realize just how young that is.
Mad Respect for Mizzy and Esfand, the two papas of twitch always looking out for not just their communities but their friends in any way they can
Was waiting for this comment, I noticed the comments on Esfand but was disappointed that no one was mentioning what Miz did
@@vichuynh7501 Break into people's houses and steal people's dogs?
Mizzy is not a papa lmao, he has his own shit but he did try to be good here.
Unstable people with alcohol and a hunger for being seen in every way or form is a dangerous combination
If you give a young Irish girl that much money and fame, she's almost sure to drink it. A lot of Irish people drink a lot when they're younger, but they don't have the money to go as far as she did. All the same, it's ridiculous for people to put such young people on a pedestal, or anyone for that matter.
This is a woman who needs help. She needs actual support in her life - not subs on twitch, but actual honest-to-god friends there helping her. More now than ever. And I worry that how reputation becomes increasingly important for high profile people, that she's going to be taken advantage of or ignored for the sake of not being associated with her in her worst time.
"But actual honest-to-god friends," that's nearly impossible when you're on Twitch
This is a low-key, very tragic incident.
Malena, the one who force fed the unfortunate poor soul (Minx), alcohol when she literally can’t drink it…
Congratulations, Malena. You’ve made an inhumane monster out of yourself, the epitome example of how crooked human can be.
A perfect Torture Sommelier scenario.
You’re over-exaggerating she was drunk as shit and probably couldn’t comprehend it. Was it a bad mistake sure but calling her an inhumane monster for making a mistake which humans do is ridiculous.
@@NojoNinjafreak
@@NojoNinja I don’t think you understand what’s being said. Drunk or not, forcing someone to consume alcohol and meds at the same time can be lethal for the receiving end, and makes the person giving out the caustic cocktail would be a monster no matter what.
This also makes it sound like you did the almost same thing.
@@slaughtrrbeach freak because I think someone making a poor mistake doesn’t mean they’re an inhumane monster yeah……
@@losgatosboi9880 how does this make it sound like I did the same thing? For writing a response to your question? I was literally there watching the stream, I’ve never done anything like this but thanks for the asinine assumption. I simply wrote what happened. What makes humans “ inhumane monsters” is when you purposely do things knowing the outcome.
Malena was too drunk to comprehend the danger she was putting Minx in (which by the way minx wasn’t even on pain meds, she quit taking them before that day) and once again I’ll repeat this to you; this makes it a very bad / poor mistake, but to call someone an inhumane monster for a poor accident is preposterous.
I forgot she existed
*has a toxic heated argument on live*
“Lmao Americans are soft”
Room full of 8 + adults.
They know she can't drink cause she is on meds.
Only Esfand says something.
None of the other adults (that love high roading on stream) say a single word. They just sit and look awkward af.
This is genuienly disturbing. Where are their basic morals and care for other people? People get cancelled for sexual allegations but not when they are actively endangering an addicts life? Crazy
And this one dumb mf calls esfand a simp for trying to stop...
Buddy.... you cant control other people. What do you want them to do? Tell her she cant drink on the medication that she already knows she cant drink on?
She's a full blown alcoholic, she don't care.
Instead of suggesting to cancel more people for stupid shit, how about you pick up a book on addition and alcoholism and the journey 99% of them take.
I dont think most knew she was on meds, it was a very confusing situation im sure, and its hard to get a full perspective when something like that suddenly happens, and you are trying to piece together whats happening, the other girl should have stopped when she was repeatedly told that minx was on meds
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 Okay, so, you cannot control other people and that is why you should shove alcohol down their throat when they are an alcoholic + epileptic + are on meds? YOU pick up a book on addiction and alcoholism. Some people deserve to be called out in order to realize their mistakes and prevent others from being harmed due to it. Minx's behaviour is something that NONE of her friends seem to be actively helping with, as they've left her isolated, they've enabled her, and much more. An addict can only be saved by others, for their self-awareness and self-control is gone, especially given that Minx has Borderline Personality Disorder, which by itself leaves her at the mercy of her impulses. These words are coming from someone who was once an addict to multiple substances, and starvation.
It's okay to not be a dickhead and help people who are at the very verge of death.
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 yes you can. You can tell them to fuck off and kill the vibe. If she dies on the spot, the law will consider you guilty for not stopping it. Stop thinking like a teenager.
A seizure??? Maybe an alcoholic seizure
We need more people like Esfand out there who are willing to stand up for their friends even if it makes them the ‘enemy.’
Like holy fuck dude, he’s telling them about her medication interacting with the alcohol, it’s not some joke about protecting her honor and whiteknighting, he’s trying to tell people that she could fucking die and they’re shitting on him for it. I honestly haven’t been able to watch the full version of that clip, it’s so disgusting.