"our existence is necessarily finite and limited. You are allowed to exist temporarily in a possibly infinite universe" Absolutely beautiful and unscientifically profound.
I think he chooses to be happy and to smile. He's someone that understands how small he is in the great scheme of things. Instead of feeling lesser than, he makes the hard choice to smile. It's all he can do
I hope he has brian Cox back on again he's insanely intelligent and wide eyed about these topics. There very little ego in how he talks it's informative and comforting to hear him talk
I first learned of Brian Cox through one of his documentaries (Somewhere in Spacetime👍🏻) and instantly liked his demeanor and how humble and personable he is for a scientist. He has a way of saying things for sure.
Same here. Saw his documentary on Life on Earth and he is really passionate, curious and an interesting personality. Unlike the few who like to push their agenda or gloat about their beliefs and egocentric theories.
Been on a bit of a spiritual awakening and it's very overwhelming. Hearing this guy talk made it a bit better. First time I hear someone denounce spiritualism with proper facts.
I've been on an existencial crisis binge for 2 years now,lately it's been getting worse and honestly this guy is the only one that has been able to calm and satisfy my questioning of everything
The issue is, his argument boils down to "if we cant measure it it doesn't exist". Apply this to anything and science would haven't really have gotten anyway and it won't progress very far. We can't measure the universe but it exists. Our minds are 40,000 years old, it is nieve to think that these minds and their languages can achieve perfect understanding of the universe. It's just as silly as people who base their beliefs completly off a book in my opinion. Essentially what you are doing by reading your comment is the spiritual equivilant to having a gym routine and before you get ripped you give in to tiredness as you find that the sofa, tv and junk food are more comfortable than self improvement.
If you think that enlightment and the occult knowledge of gods doesn't come at a cost or a risk well then I'm sorry to be the one to tell you it does. And no it is not a punishment, it's a mortal challenge.
Brian's lovely. Generous, funny and respectful. The fact is that he is vastly more intelligent than 99% of people he meets, but he's still respectful of their minds and doesn't talk down to them. He's a superb educator and can teach quite complex physics to the layman.
This man is exceptionally brilliant. It's great to know there is people out there this smart. It gives me a sense of hope that people in general will keep advancing in everyy aspect.
8:26 for his definition of being human, in case of impatience. But I highly suggest listening to everything this man has to say! Brilliant and awe inspiring to say the least. 👍
Someone once asked me why I liked science so much. Here was my answer: if we look at life, at any level, specifically the functioning of a life form. It eats, observes its surroundings, may have thought, communication, emotion, etc… and if we consider that as Cox mentioned (that Carl Sagan has also said) that we are made of stars (elements), in particular, compounds formed by those elements we must acknowledge that those compounds are formed by the sharing or transfer of electrons. So, everything we know, dream, digest, say, envision in our mind’s eye, remember, construct, feel, create, etc. is possible because electrons form bonds. That’s pretty friggin wild. On a more rudimentary level it’s all energy transfer. Since energy and matter are 2 sides of the same coin, chew on that for a while. It’s beautiful.
One of my Mental heath lecturers at Uni is very annoyed at the Cartesian Dichotomy of Mind and body, it's led to all sorts of conventions that are not indicated by evidence based medicine: The Brain is an organ, just like the the heart or the liver, and as such it is affected by pathology in the body and vice-versa. Yet the Psychiatric hospital at King's College Hospital is a separate building across the road, Maudsley Hospital (and part of a different hospital trust) All because doctors went along with Descartes' view that the mind was separate from the body.
Life itself is the soul, not somthing within. If you look at the entirety of what you are; you are alive. We are just parts of the universe expressing itself as human for a while.
Having a soul is something Devine and it's some much about life that we having he started to understand. Faith is something you can see or feel but billions of people believe in a higher power.
I remember my favourite astronomer Patrick Mooré doing a discussion with this musician AND Brian May. I almost met Patrick Moore at the Greenwich Observatory
Our thoughts/ego can get in the way of experiencing interconnectedness. This is why learning is typically most effective through experience rather than the distribution of information..
There is nothing not moving ... yes, you can keep your arm still, but every particle is moving, spinning, etc. There is nothing anywhere that is not moving.
i feel greatfull for joe and the extraordinary people -guests and the infos-wisdom they share....i think Brian s charming smile origin from confintence which comes from knowledge
Once you except that there is no afterlife, it is enlightenment at a high level. Its total freedom and everything makes sense. Then you realise that all the gods that were created took away the incredible bravery of our ancestors that left the African jungle to wander the Savannah to explore the world.
Except the out of Africa theory has been disproven multiple times by gentics, the fossil record and anthropology. Science has devolved into a controlled narrative, that is the most truly enlightening thing that someone can achieve on the topic of science if they are not a practitioner of the methodology itself.
Disorder creates complexity, complexity creates complex life form, objects like stars. It's the laws of nature. Where the nature comes from we don't know
Its funny to me that someone so scientific minded would assume that whatever instruments have been used to search for evidence of our existence beyond a collection of atoms is absolutely perfect and can see the entire scale and scope and truth behind reality. No matter what the instrument its just some thing that looks with incredible limitation, to which degree he cannot know!
I'd argue that chili defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics in that it becomes more ordered for about 1-4 days in the fridge and then after that begins to tend toward chaos.
You have to suspend the complexity of conceptualizing things like a scientists would do to understand the simplest proof there can be to our existing beyond just a collection of atoms. Its this simple: no one can be the result of any two things because you simply would not BE. The very fact that i exist is proof that i am not the byproduct of something else. In other words, no thing can be two things. Whatever is, simply is one thing and absolutely cant be the byproduct of something else. Another way of looking at this proof is: the existence of a thing cant depend of anything else or it simply would not exist. This guy cant argue against this. This is the very essence of science.
Fwiw my theory on what people are looking for when looking for a higher power. I think it is the taking over of our subconscious by our conscious that leaves us longing. The change from having no responsibility of decision making to having (or at least feeling like it) all of the responsibility. For example, have you ever been in "the zone"? Maybe playing sports, maybe your work, maybe in a fight, maybe by drugs? It's like your brain shuts off and you're super aware of everything. Once you come out of it there's a real sense of euphoria and power. That's the feeling we chase. While our consciousness was clearly a boon to us it is possible (and I think likely) there were some trade offs.
Three months ago scientists discovered there might actually be a fifth force of the universe. This fifth force could be the soul force that Brian denied
The same that happens when you’re alive, even when you sleep you lose energy, where does that energy go? The energy is converted back to nature (too much to explain why and how). When you’re alive you consume energy to keep you from deteriorating, but when you die you slowly lose energy, and your body deteriorated completely into atoms
Brian is all smart and discussing things from a very intelligent, cerebral place. Meanwhile, Joe is high as fuck and all, "Dude... check this out, man... YOU have your mind and I have my mind and we exist as intelligent beings separate from each other..."
It seems to me that with intelligence, there comes a point where they don't want to admit they are limited in what they can see or measure with current technology.
Yeah I think the same thing.... I feel like there's things in our universe that science will never be able to measure and comprehend, no matter how intelligent we get as humans.
Could the soul not be a 4th dimensional construct and that in the way 2d creatures can’t interact with 3d creatures without intervention by the 3d creature we can’t interact with the soul as a 3d creature without intervention of the 4d soul. Idk just an explanation that I thought could explain it.
A 1-d thing interacts with a 2-d as well as a 3-d so on and so forth. It just doesnt interact on all the dimension. If a soul is 4-d but interacts with us 3-d, interacts with us in all the 3d we have but only use 3 out of 4 dimensions it have. So that interaction is in our realm, so we can measure it .
I love Brian Cox. He is a genius and I’m probably on his side with regard to the soul. However his comment that if you can’t measure it, it’s just not there just isn’t convincing to me. If we’ve learned anything in the last 60 years in physics it is that absolute truths we held in physics have proven to be not so absolute as we’ve gained more knowledge of the universe. I would think the same doubt would apply to absolute positions about reality simply because we can nor cannot measure them.
Bro I've watched about ten videos of you two and every video I start about fourty seconds into I have smoke a joint I'm no about an eighth deep and this shits crazy
On the other hand he said, there is dark energy, and we do not even know what it is. So, how can you be so sure there is no such energy we do not know about?
I don't consider myself very religious, and I agree with all the points Mr.Cox has made about us being finite beings made up of atoms. But it doesn't stop me from hoping that there is an afterlife to all of this, if not a direct transfer of consciousness but a hope of atleast being in an infinite sort of bliss without any notion of time. Well we are all going to be there one day, and I fear it, but I think part of it is that we need to stop fearing the inevitable. I also like Joes 'cellphone' theory that we get transferred when our case gets smashed.
"our existence is necessarily finite and limited. You are allowed to exist temporarily in a possibly infinite universe"
Absolutely beautiful and unscientifically profound.
Brian doesn't shy away from a smile, does he? Always happy.
Yes always super gay
I think he chooses to be happy and to smile. He's someone that understands how small he is in the great scheme of things. Instead of feeling lesser than, he makes the hard choice to smile. It's all he can do
Soy will soy.
I see fear and sadness
But wtf do I know
Prob a serial killer.
I hope he has brian Cox back on again he's insanely intelligent and wide eyed about these topics. There very little ego in how he talks it's informative and comforting to hear him talk
It is always so cool to see these geniuses be so humble
8:24 - 10:50 Damn Brian that last point of view you shared, totally blew my mind. The best thing I heard in many years. Such a beautiful thought.
I also experienced same!
Me too!!!
It actually brought me in tears
That shit gave me anxiety 😟 beautiful yet scary as hell!
I feel sad brian cox won't be around in the future when new discoveries are made...... His mind deserves to see it all
Entropy - as beautifully and concisely described by Professor Brian Cox: “things turn to shit.”
Love him
I first learned of Brian Cox through one of his documentaries (Somewhere in Spacetime👍🏻) and instantly liked his demeanor and how humble and personable he is for a scientist. He has a way of saying things for sure.
Same here. Saw his documentary on Life on Earth and he is really passionate, curious and an interesting personality. Unlike the few who like to push their agenda or gloat about their beliefs and egocentric theories.
The ending blew my mind!! I never thought about it that way
The answer in a nut shell, "The Universe has no obligation to make sense to you"
He genuinely loves what he’s doing.
One of the lucky ones. I fuckin hate my job
@@landonic81 lol
Who? Cause they both seem to lol
@@landonic81 me too. The 'I hate my job club' is a big one.
"Australia-pithicus" - Joe Rogan 2019
Unintentional genius
He gets it wrong Alllll the time, for as many times as he mentions it, you would think someone would be nice enough to correct him.
Well spotted.
G'day!!!
1:44
Me: exists
Universe: I'll allow it...
Lol
....."for now"
When you scale it all down this is exactly what it's all about. With all the science and religion, if the universe decides to end you It can
He's so clever he can break down heavy information simply without being condescending and with a smile. Brian Cox your awesome!
Joe Rogan with the hippie questions
Thanks for making ME smile. "Rogan with the hippie questions"
Let’s get Brian Cox on the show again Joe, please!
Best JRE guest and podcast in a long, long time.
incredible interview...such a mind. love Joes thought process...asking the right questions, a really enjoyable interview....thank you.
Been on a bit of a spiritual awakening and it's very overwhelming. Hearing this guy talk made it a bit better. First time I hear someone denounce spiritualism with proper facts.
I've been on an existencial crisis binge for 2 years now,lately it's been getting worse and honestly this guy is the only one that has been able to calm and satisfy my questioning of everything
The issue is, his argument boils down to "if we cant measure it it doesn't exist". Apply this to anything and science would haven't really have gotten anyway and it won't progress very far. We can't measure the universe but it exists. Our minds are 40,000 years old, it is nieve to think that these minds and their languages can achieve perfect understanding of the universe. It's just as silly as people who base their beliefs completly off a book in my opinion. Essentially what you are doing by reading your comment is the spiritual equivilant to having a gym routine and before you get ripped you give in to tiredness as you find that the sofa, tv and junk food are more comfortable than self improvement.
If you think that enlightment and the occult knowledge of gods doesn't come at a cost or a risk well then I'm sorry to be the one to tell you it does. And no it is not a punishment, it's a mortal challenge.
Brian was so chill that even Joe's hypothetical scenarios were chilled
How is Brian Cox 50 years old :|
Lots of weed and undergrad pussy!!
@@NoctilucentStudios not everyones a stoner
He looks about 50
Hair
He has aged for 50 years, that how
Such a wonderful communicator of complex, issues. Love, love, loved this podcast!!!
Brian's lovely. Generous, funny and respectful. The fact is that he is vastly more intelligent than 99% of people he meets, but he's still respectful of their minds and doesn't talk down to them. He's a superb educator and can teach quite complex physics to the layman.
This man is exceptionally brilliant. It's great to know there is people out there this smart. It gives me a sense of hope that people in general will keep advancing in everyy aspect.
Hahahahahahaha fool
Well the problems I have are not as bad as I initially thought. Life’s too short man. Make the most of it. (Cliché I know).
Cliche but necessary to keep reminding ourselves 👍🏻
It means coming home at 5:00. Busting a Nut into a tissue, waking up at 8:00. only to do it all over again.
I'd kill for that life lol
And it's cause we're neural networks. We detect patterns.
I wish 9/10 people on the planet would be of Brian Cox intellect
This was fun . Joe went along for the ride . Why is he not like that with a lot more of his guests . It makes for a better podcast/show
Quality and engaging nature of the guest maybe?
Brian Cox is wonderful
brian cox and brian greene .. these two guys always blow away my mind
What a beautiful and elegant answer at the end.
8:26 for his definition of being human, in case of impatience. But I highly suggest listening to everything this man has to say! Brilliant and awe inspiring to say the least. 👍
Someone once asked me why I liked science so much. Here was my answer: if we look at life, at any level, specifically the functioning of a life form. It eats, observes its surroundings, may have thought, communication, emotion, etc… and if we consider that as Cox mentioned (that Carl Sagan has also said) that we are made of stars (elements), in particular, compounds formed by those elements we must acknowledge that those compounds are formed by the sharing or transfer of electrons. So, everything we know, dream, digest, say, envision in our mind’s eye, remember, construct, feel, create, etc. is possible because electrons form bonds. That’s pretty friggin wild. On a more rudimentary level it’s all energy transfer. Since energy and matter are 2 sides of the same coin, chew on that for a while. It’s beautiful.
6:45 - "The woo woo" - Joe Rogan 2019 - a woooo WOOOO!!
My dumb ass actually understood and agreed with what he argued against the soul, bet he’s a really good teacher
Should just have a joe and Brian podcast. I can listen to Brian talk for days on end
I won’t listen to a physicist unless he has unkempt hair and a basic day to day t shirt
Little Britches I'm black
Always Smiling what’s up,black?
WOW! I AM STONED...❤️
Brain Cox the story of a charming man
I could listen to Brian all day
I was asked this question in my school. My answer was emotion.
Thank you Joe Rogan! I needed Brian Cox to tell me what it means to be human!!
lets hope religious people watch this then grow up and get on with their lives
The fact that he easily say I don't know shows how smart he really is
I could literally listen to this dude all day,
Omg!!! Blown my frickin mind!
polar I lick my computer and I aslo lkie jlowbobs
yes Brian does smile alot but that just shows his spirit is good and wholesome
One of my Mental heath lecturers at Uni is very annoyed at the Cartesian Dichotomy of Mind and body, it's led to all sorts of conventions that are not indicated by evidence based medicine: The Brain is an organ, just like the the heart or the liver, and as such it is affected by pathology in the body and vice-versa. Yet the Psychiatric hospital at King's College Hospital is a separate building across the road, Maudsley Hospital (and part of a different hospital trust) All because doctors went along with Descartes' view that the mind was separate from the body.
Probably the most important thing I’ve ever heard.
Well that was the most depressing answer to what it means to be human I have ever heard.
Reality is often depressing. Believing in things you can't possibly prove to justify the unknown is depressing to me.
its depressing when you identify with your life situation. identify with the energy
Life itself is the soul, not somthing within. If you look at the entirety of what you are; you are alive.
We are just parts of the universe expressing itself as human for a while.
saying there are things we dont know yet while ruling out the soul
This video is ASMR approved
Having a soul is something Devine and it's some much about life that we having he started to understand. Faith is something you can see or feel but billions of people believe in a higher power.
I remember my favourite astronomer Patrick Mooré
doing a discussion with this musician AND Brian May.
I almost met Patrick Moore at the Greenwich Observatory
I mean what if the soul is in the 4th or higher dimension, interacting with our dimension and we can't perceive it
Our thoughts/ego can get in the way of experiencing interconnectedness. This is why learning is typically most effective through experience rather than the distribution of information..
There is nothing not moving ... yes, you can keep your arm still, but every particle is moving, spinning, etc. There is nothing anywhere that is not moving.
You should see the fat fucks I deliver to, they are most definitely not moving
Ah no device will ever be able to detect the energy I see when I’m tripping lol 😂
What a wonderful conversation !!!
How does one man retain all this information? Unbelievable intelligence.
i feel greatfull for joe and the extraordinary people -guests and the infos-wisdom they share....i think Brian s charming smile origin from confintence which comes from knowledge
Once you except that there is no afterlife, it is enlightenment at a high level. Its total freedom and everything makes sense. Then you realise that all the gods that were created took away the incredible bravery of our ancestors that left the African jungle to wander the Savannah to explore the world.
Except the out of Africa theory has been disproven multiple times by gentics, the fossil record and anthropology. Science has devolved into a controlled narrative, that is the most truly enlightening thing that someone can achieve on the topic of science if they are not a practitioner of the methodology itself.
Brian is soooo dang smart
“Things go to shit” prof. Brian Cox
Disorder creates complexity, complexity creates complex life form, objects like stars. It's the laws of nature. Where the nature comes from we don't know
Its funny to me that someone so scientific minded would assume that whatever instruments have been used to search for evidence of our existence beyond a collection of atoms is absolutely perfect and can see the entire scale and scope and truth behind reality. No matter what the instrument its just some thing that looks with incredible limitation, to which degree he cannot know!
It's entirely possible!
You can't destroy energy it just takes another form
Man that was good stuff! He does an incredible job of making sense of it all for us simpletons
Fascinating!!
Now you talking you laddie buck.
Content worth sharing.
I'd argue that chili defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics in that it becomes more ordered for about 1-4 days in the fridge and then after that begins to tend toward chaos.
Deep conversations
You have to suspend the complexity of conceptualizing things like a scientists would do to understand the simplest proof there can be to our existing beyond just a collection of atoms. Its this simple: no one can be the result of any two things because you simply would not BE. The very fact that i exist is proof that i am not the byproduct of something else. In other words, no thing can be two things. Whatever is, simply is one thing and absolutely cant be the byproduct of something else. Another way of looking at this proof is: the existence of a thing cant depend of anything else or it simply would not exist. This guy cant argue against this. This is the very essence of science.
Fwiw my theory on what people are looking for when looking for a higher power. I think it is the taking over of our subconscious by our conscious that leaves us longing. The change from having no responsibility of decision making to having (or at least feeling like it) all of the responsibility.
For example, have you ever been in "the zone"? Maybe playing sports, maybe your work, maybe in a fight, maybe by drugs? It's like your brain shuts off and you're super aware of everything. Once you come out of it there's a real sense of euphoria and power. That's the feeling we chase.
While our consciousness was clearly a boon to us it is possible (and I think likely) there were some trade offs.
"the answer is jesus,you can't measure god" that's a good line!
Stfu
Its actualy true!
He was joking you idiot
Luke y I hope he's joking
Jesus isn´t god, he prayed to god. Not only that, religion is bullshit.
This guy is so happy that he doesn't age, wow 50 years old and he's accomplished so much in science.
he looks so happy
@cyb3rpunk 2077 then i must be a fuckin scientist
Get Brian Cox on again
He talks and smiles at the same time
I’d love to hear him speak on the Doctor Strange movie and the topic of the astral realm.
Brian - "I can prove souls don't exist"
Proceeds to not prove a fucking thing lol. I'm still agnostic.
Three months ago scientists discovered there might actually be a fifth force of the universe. This fifth force could be the soul force that Brian denied
You should get Zac Bagans on the show!!!
Rogan breaking into spoken word poet hand gesture guy mode
Brian Cox and people like him are gifts to human kind.
I think the real question is not necessarily how we think, but WHY we think to begin with.
If energy never dies, where does our energy go when we die?
The same that happens when you’re alive, even when you sleep you lose energy, where does that energy go? The energy is converted back to nature (too much to explain why and how). When you’re alive you consume energy to keep you from deteriorating, but when you die you slowly lose energy, and your body deteriorated completely into atoms
Love the microphone picking up how moist his mouth is 💦☔️
What a guy
Brian is all smart and discussing things from a very intelligent, cerebral place. Meanwhile, Joe is high as fuck and all, "Dude... check this out, man... YOU have your mind and I have my mind and we exist as intelligent beings separate from each other..."
The thought that a life is important creates the morality, but if you think as particles anything is ok.
It seems to me that with intelligence, there comes a point where they don't want to admit they are limited in what they can see or measure with current technology.
Yeah I think the same thing.... I feel like there's things in our universe that science will never be able to measure and comprehend, no matter how intelligent we get as humans.
we are all stardust
Could the soul not be a 4th dimensional construct and that in the way 2d creatures can’t interact with 3d creatures without intervention by the 3d creature we can’t interact with the soul as a 3d creature without intervention of the 4d soul. Idk just an explanation that I thought could explain it.
A 1-d thing interacts with a 2-d as well as a 3-d so on and so forth.
It just doesnt interact on all the dimension.
If a soul is 4-d but interacts with us 3-d, interacts with us in all the 3d we have but only use 3 out of 4 dimensions it have.
So that interaction is in our realm, so we can measure it .
I love Brian Cox. He is a genius and I’m probably on his side with regard to the soul. However his comment that if you can’t measure it, it’s just not there just isn’t convincing to me. If we’ve learned anything in the last 60 years in physics it is that absolute truths we held in physics have proven to be not so absolute as we’ve gained more knowledge of the universe. I would think the same doubt would apply to absolute positions about reality simply because we can nor cannot measure them.
Indranet. Was working on it 20 years àgo.
Bro I've watched about ten videos of you two and every video I start about fourty seconds into I have smoke a joint I'm no about an eighth deep and this shits crazy
On the other hand he said, there is dark energy, and we do not even know what it is. So, how can you be so sure there is no such energy we do not know about?
I don't consider myself very religious, and I agree with all the points Mr.Cox has made about us being finite beings made up of atoms. But it doesn't stop me from hoping that there is an afterlife to all of this, if not a direct transfer of consciousness but a hope of atleast being in an infinite sort of bliss without any notion of time. Well we are all going to be there one day, and I fear it, but I think part of it is that we need to stop fearing the inevitable. I also like Joes 'cellphone' theory that we get transferred when our case gets smashed.
It's the way it just cuts to black at the end for me. 🤧