These connections between psychology, pychotherapy, epistimology, deep theology and the Hassidic tradition give me a deeper appreciation of the Hassidic belief in its own redemptive capacity, and a renewed hope for the Tikkun (Healing) of the world
Very interesting. I'm sitting here thinking if there are equivalents in Sufism and we can certainly find similarities. In the metaphysics of Ibn Arabi, the Hidden Treasure of the Divine Essence "wants to be known", that is, the attributes inherent in The Real require that they be manifested or actualized in particular form - thus the Universe and Human Soul/Consciousness is created. He also constantly affirms that God is "the eyes with which we see and the ears with which we hear", in other words it is really God himself who is experiencing. So the Universe and our individual consciousness of it becomes the very "place" in which God is "actualized" or particularized and disclosed to Himself.
Yes, the blessing and curse of a comparative mind. I'm sitting here thinking about the parallels in Jewish thought to the beautiful observations you made in Sufi thought. In the Zohar, one of the reason provided as to why G-d creates the world is: "בגין דישתמודעון ליה" "In order that G-d may be known". I think your psychological reading of this idea is rich indeed. And the second idea you quoted beautifully brings to mind the verse in Proverbs and the Mishna in Avot: אזן שמעת ועין ראה יהוה עשה גם שניהם The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made both of them. - Proverbs 21:12 דַּע מַה לְּמַעְלָה מִמְּךָ, עַיִן רוֹאָה וְאֹזֶן שׁוֹמַעַת, וְכָל מַעֲשֶׂיךָ בַסֵּפֶר נִכְתָּבִין Know what there is above you: an eye that sees, an ear that hears, and all your deeds are written in a book. - Avot 2:1 And the general New Agey, Wattsian ;) idea that, we are the consciousness of the cosmos. I guess the traditional mystics would state it rather: G-d is the consciousness of the cosmos, and we are the vessel, the eyes and ears of G-d. Not bad. Thanks for the thought.
You speak the truth. We are entering "the mystery." I grew up Baptist and the mystical idea you're describing is called the "Marriage of the Lamb." Union of opposites.
Really mind-blowing video. It's incredible how you are able to take such deep and spiritual concepts and break them down simply and I dare say secular way. Thank you so much! ❤
Just wow! Your channel is superb. Thank you. Now I know why I have felt so drawn to Jungian Psychology. It takes me right back to why I've always appreciated Hassidic approach to Judaism. Thank you for this teaching 💜🙏🏽💜
I was glued to the screen from start to finish, very well done! I had a question regarding Abulafia: what did he think was the benefit of uniting within oneself then 10 archetypes of God/ the Sephirot?
Hey brother. Thank you so much. Nice to hear from you. In brief Abulafia saw the uniting the archetypes within oneself as the path to dvekut (unio mystica), nevuah (prophecy), and mashiach (messianism). Check out the full vid we did on him for more: ruclips.net/video/l085z91q648/видео.html 26 minutes in is when we finish talking about his life and start discussing his ideas and get right into this. Enjoy.
Jung's understanding changed dramatically after his visit to India in 1943. He was greatly influenced by the Vedanta. Judaism believes in GOD and creationism while Vedanta believes in Advaita and evolution.
Great video, i would take it a step further and posit that Jung had his own metaphysical idealism and believed that all was mind or divine mind and that the archetypes were a divine order similar to the sefirot.
I am always stunned and amazed at how much Jung's work and the mystic traditions of the world match almost word for word what I discovered after an existential experience of mine ^_^
As below so above is a beautiful summation and the mirror image of the manifestations of the collective unconscious feeding into the individual and the individuals own mind branching out. We know not where the roots reach as society is a living collective of dynamic history. Is Yung pseudo canonical for kabalists?
Great video :). When I first began studying Kabbalah (not much after new year just gone!) I recall thinking it seemed very close to Jungian psychology. Very interesting that you affirm this :D I'll have to check out the books you listed to add to my collection ;). Much love from England, keep up the good work and sharing the light!
Thoroughly fascinating... Thank you! I find myself inspired to reflect on Dōgen-zenji's 13th century exegesis of the celebrated verse of the Lotus Sūtra, "Only a Buddha and a Buddha can completely know the real aspects of all phenomena." Here, it is understood that Buddhas and sentient beings are "not two".
Follow-up QUESTION: Given that all order is an emergent structure supervening on random fluctuations in a field of chaos, the cosmos produced a plurality of spacetime geometries, i.e., structures. Instead of one G-d seeing through our eyes etc. it seems more plausible that there are many g-ds seeing through our eyes etc. As above so below inclines us instead to pluralism, not panentheism or any other mystical theism: What if the commandment is "You are to have no g-ds before you"? What if personal responsibility to our neighbours and ancestors is to be our guide through the many worlds in which we live and breathe and have our being? Much love!
I'm sending you through the Messenger a long quote from an essay of Dr. Sanford L.Drob, a jewish and a kabbalist , famous psychiatrist and forensic expert for the Hifgh Courts in New York State, demostrating in 28 points, put side by side ,how much of Jung's Archetypes Doctrine has been draft directly from Luria's Etz Chayim. A fascinating read that confirms what you just said in this episode. I used the same points in a conference with psycoanalists and counsellors and they were all mesmerized of the depth of Jewish kabbalah.
I came here for the discussion of Jung and kabbalah, and as great as that discussion was, the thing that really stood out to me is HOW CLEAN YOUR AUDIO IS!! Recording outside like that without a hint of background noise! Well done!
Haha, thanks so much. We're always working to improve our production quality to give you the best experience we can. Glad it's paying off. I hope the clarity of the audio didn’t distract you too much 😋
Some quick audio tips: Record on an external mic. Get it close to your face. Use a wind cover if you’re filming outside. Set your levels to sit around -12db. Raise it to just below 0 in edit. Use something like audacity to clean out background noise.
great video man, you touched on and expounded upon some things I've been thinking about lately. Super interesting learning about the kabbalah I've never known where to start with it.
Brilliant talk and brilliantly presented! In 'Answer to Job' , Jung says - "The Pleroma must become conscious in man". And yes, Jewish esoteric thought reached to the same conclusion - the role of man through meta-cognition facilitates "God" to reflect on Itself. Or as Jung insists that the ultimate goal is to "make the unconscious conscious".
I have excellent news for all kabbalists aware of this interview where Jung says that The Rabbi Baer, the Great Maggid, anticipated his entire Psychology" In Spain. (Barcelona) a great Jewish scholar published a Thesis of over 800 pages for his Phd in "La cábala: La psicología del misticismo judío"" ( Kabbala: the Psychology of Jewish Mysticism) It has not been translated yet into English and even though I am a translator I would not pretend to be able to translate it. However I could say one thing, that when that thesis gets translated it, we will truly enter a new century, a world where each individual would be his/her own therapist. Everything is hidden in the symbolism of the Tree of Life like a hollogram within each of us. The worlds, above infinity and beyond and the finite dimensions below where our egos contradict each other with arguments, orthodoxies, and theories in a world of fragmentation. And yes, the lead is "individuation", but it goes even further than what we had gained so far with Jungian theory, without contradicting anything
It corresponds with the Vedantic philosophy that the mind of a living entity (jīva) is one with the cosmic mind of God (Īśvara) as his manifestion as the great Hiranyagarbha werein all the galaxies exist.
I do have an interest in Christian and Perennialist Kabbalists and hope to get into them here. I'd recommend checking out our map of Mysticism over at seekersofunity.com it will give you a good sense of what we hope to explore here.
me too, it is by studying tarot that i've discovered this channel and so glad i did! the map you have on your website is full of knowledge, will study it slowly so thank you, thank you, thank you. have a blessed day :)
Tremendously interesting! Are there any hasidic original texts you would recommend if one is interested in the "psychological" understanding of religion?
@@ultrahumanist You won't be able to make sense of the Tanya, it demands familiarity and understanding with previous knowledge. If I were you I'd first get familiar with Hasdism as a Sect of the bigger context of Judaism. "Psychological" interpretations of Kabbalah such as Jung or Jordan Peterson's are highly interesting and insightful, but this is not Kabbalah, this is an Analysis of Kabbalah, which is a different thing altogether.... Nothing wrong with it, but just realize you're not learning Kabbalah.
Thank you so much. I'm glad it was helpful. Certainly, here are the sources: R. Jacob Joseph of Polonnoye, Toldot Ya'akov Yoseph, fol. 86a: "There are ten Sefirot in man, who is called microcosmos..." From, Moshe Idel, Kabbalah: New Perspectives, p. 150, who notes: “Although this quotation is fragmentary, it is nevertheless obvious that the founder of Hasidism interpreted the entire sefirotic scheme as referring to mystical states on the human level.” The Maggid, Ohr Ha'Emet, fol. 36c-d: “Once the rabbi admonished someone because he was discussing Kabbalah in public. That person answered him: "Why do you discuss Kabbalah in public, too?" He [the Great Maggid] answered him: "I teach the world to understand that everything written in Sefer 'Ez Hayyim also exists in this world and in man. However, I do not explain the spiritual matters of Sefer 'Ez Hayyim; but you discuss everything which is written in 'Ez Hayyim literally, and thus you transform the spiritual into corporeal; but the sublime spiritual world is [indeed] ineffable.” From Idel, Kabbalah, p. 151, who comments: “Like his master, R. Dov Baer did not deny the existence of the complex Lurianic theosophy, but was primarily interested in its immanence in this world and in man.”
Hello. Thank you for this video. I am glad that there are more videos about Jung analysis. I know that you already made video about "Answer to Job", but it was too short. And you said that: "you have read it long time ago", and that you need to "refresh your understanding of it". Could you make much more advanced and bigger analysis of "Answer to Job"? That would be nice and interesting. Thank you. p.s. - sorry for my "shitty" english))
Your English is fantastic, no need to apologise. Hmmm i suppose we can revisit _Answer to Job_ so long as people are not getting bored of the Jung series. With love, Zevi
I was trained by L.G Corey , Yakov Ben Leib Hakoahin . My teacher trained under James so I am well within the line of that line of transmission , we were often called the mystic jungians , we used to be mocked . Interesting how times change my teachers calling was not in vain but I see some exciting things coming together , I really enjoy your video , and love you name . My teacher practiced and taught Neo Sabbatian Kabbalah
Each religion has a mystical hidden journey.. For example.. Jewish tradition: Egypt to wilderness (led by Moses the lawgiver), to Promised land (led by Joshua-love), to Solomon's temple. Followers of Jesus: Egypt to wilderness (saved by the law), to ministry (gift of love), to the cross. Muslims mosque pilgrimage: To Mecca (white-law), to Medina (green dome-love), to The Temple Mount (gold dome). All culminating in union with the Creator (awareness). ...including C. G. Jung's spiritual journey.
The Binding of Isaac: Bringing the horrors of existence from an unconscious state into consciousness was, I believe, the first leap for mankind. From the ‘Mount of Sight’: STOP! Abraham saw the animal sacrifice preventing repeated escapes from the reality of consciousness (OMG! What have I done while I was unconscious?) into the unconsciousness. The archetype for Trusting in God and a permanent conscious state of mind. 10:39
Aunque entiendo su mensaje en Ingles quisiera que fuese posible subtitulos en español pues esta información es tan importante para el crecimiento de todos qué habría más posibilidad de que otros accedieran a ella. Gracias
Join the community of Seekers on: facebook: facebook.com/seekersofunity instagram: instagram.com/seekersofunity twitter: twitter.com/SeekersofU merch: seekersofunity.com/shop patreon: www.patreon.com/seekers Also, for 10 points, anyone recognize where the sefirot character in this vids thumbnail's from?
479 to like! thank you for the compelling argument. i have a bias against Jung that you have given me pause to reconsider or at least reframe in terms of the question of a plurality of contexts for the deep, hereditary or underlying source of imagination or a monolithic original source of meaning consistent with the monotheisms of the Abrahamic traditions. Is there a unitary structure undergirding the imaginal faculties of human consciousness or is there a plurality of such structures? Is the answer theosophical or empirical? Much love!
@@SeekersofUnity I liked the Willam James one you put out last week too. James was a big influence on my “ Arguments From Religious Experience” type videos. Good stuff!
That’s a really really great question Jamar. We hope to address the question of prayer in relation to mysticism and religion in depth in it’s own video or series. Stay tuned 😉
May I suggest that if you choose to reference an enormous amount of esoteric material -- books/folios -- please write out the name / title in addition to the abstract "cover art". Best, -Sam
Hello! I recently got into your work. I have a few people that I think you might be interested in (despite the barriers of language). I am Punjabi and have been taught the works of Bulleh Shah, Waris Shah, and Fareed Ganjshakar. Their poetry and allegories are one of the finest. I think you will be able to find them in English. And there are many others. Their work is the foundation for sufism in Punjab. Forgive me if you have already heard of them as I just got into your channel Much Love
Hello and greetings. Thank you for posting. I'm unclear as to the pronunciation, spelling and meaning of the word/term spoken, surots? furots? Thanks for clarifying. Regards.
ALL Abrahamic Religious Thoughts about GOD (regardless the name) Says : That He is the Light in The Hearts Of ManKind. If We Can See the Light ... we Get enlighten and enlightened by the Presence of HIM ... in Us and ALL Around Us
Jung took from everywhere, and his own experience. There's only one reality, to study. The creation of the world is the creation of man. No humans no universe? Could it be so? Mushrooms taught me that, but current science disagrees.
What makes Jungs work magnificient and most important, is in my opinion, that he showed man a way to have an experience with the Self, so you dont need to believe, because you experienced, hence theres no need for dogma. I ask you, does any religion available today, offer a way for the person to experience an encounter with the Self (Godhead) (image of god) ? I dont think so.
Going from symbols of the divine to inner workings of the psyche is one thing, but has Jung attempted to utilize religious symbols in his analysis of society? (i can only recall reading a general analysis of prewar Germany, never using religious themes)
That a great question, and one which i should have expected coming from the Sociologist himself ;) I don't know Jung well enough to answer, but i can recommend perusing _Jung and Sociological Theory_ by Walker (ed.) for info on that question. Best of luck.
Jung primarily focused on the unconscious of the individual, and so did most Classical Jungian psychologists. Although, throughout his oeuvre, there is extensive references to society, and social paradigms, again, mostly emphasizing these phenomena extend from the psychologies of individuals themselves. For example: "Society is the sum total of individual psychologies" is a well-known quote. Jung emphasizes that political theories and sociological theories are loaded with projective material (see CW Vol 6, Psychological Types), and emphasizes the path towards collective healing/integration is through the individual assimilation of the unconscious by discovering unique meaning -- i.e. Individuation. He repeatedly emphasizes collective catastrophes rest on the inadequate consciousness of individuals. -Sam
If Human Religion is real it 100% will NOT be only certain groups of people. All Religions can be traced to their origins. Iphone right in everyone's hands. Is it heretical to study ALL of your own Species' Religion? It's real. Or it is not. Any help would be appreciated. If youre missing words: Gottfried Leibniz' Rationalist metaphysics. If youre missing math: Pythagoras. 100% not heretical to study ALL OF YOUR OWN RELIGION.
That's an awfully anthropocentric and small "me me me" way of thinking/experiencing.. How do you know it's the mind of God? It can be just another small creation from him. There's been many philosophies trying to deal with this "all mind" whereas that itself may be just another creation. How do you it's "God's" mind? God is infinite.
This theory seems so completely contradictory to reality, I am disappointment that you didn't address this obvious disconnect. If it is up to humanity to manifest the mind of God, which only exists as unconscious potential, then go ahead and use your conscious intention to create a solar system, or even a cat! How can anyone possibly think that the Creator of the universe has a less clear consciousness than man?
Put another way, did you notice that the mind of God, which you think exists only as unconscious potential that needs the mind of man to manifest, somehow that mind of God managed to manifest the entire universe without any help at all from the mind of man?
Thank you brother. Thank you for the feedback on my pace i'll try slow down. Regarding my youth, i know all too well and am working at being less young every day, it'll pay off, come back in a little, just give it some time, guaranteed. You're right, this in particular isn't my area of greatest interest, i hope to muster the courage to talk about the things closer to my heart as the project continues. Maybe it will come with age. Why do you wish to thank me?
@@SeekersofUnity Why lecture on this if it "isn't [your] area of greatest interest?" -- Isn't it said, "Speak about what you know?" -- I think we're striving for new knowledge, to interrelate ideas from "other domains." That is healthy; we speak fast because there is a lot to say! Anyways, my friend, I think we would do well to have a chat and publish it. From your specialty, which I assume is the Jewish Kabbalah background, to my own, which is psychological.
Different strokes for different folks. I personally like the pace - although I have to admit I often hit the pause button & scroll back to let the many profound connections and explanations sink in. In saying that, I'm 63 years old, familiar with Jungian psychology from my mid-20s & have a rudimentary grasp of the Kabbalah which no doubt helps...
These connections between psychology, pychotherapy, epistimology, deep theology and the Hassidic tradition give me a deeper appreciation of the Hassidic belief in its own redemptive capacity, and a renewed hope for the Tikkun (Healing) of the world
Very interesting. I'm sitting here thinking if there are equivalents in Sufism and we can certainly find similarities.
In the metaphysics of Ibn Arabi, the Hidden Treasure of the Divine Essence "wants to be known", that is, the attributes inherent in The Real require that they be manifested or actualized in particular form - thus the Universe and Human Soul/Consciousness is created.
He also constantly affirms that God is "the eyes with which we see and the ears with which we hear", in other words it is really God himself who is experiencing.
So the Universe and our individual consciousness of it becomes the very "place" in which God is "actualized" or particularized and disclosed to Himself.
Yes, the blessing and curse of a comparative mind. I'm sitting here thinking about the parallels in Jewish thought to the beautiful observations you made in Sufi thought.
In the Zohar, one of the reason provided as to why G-d creates the world is: "בגין דישתמודעון ליה" "In order that G-d may be known". I think your psychological reading of this idea is rich indeed.
And the second idea you quoted beautifully brings to mind the verse in Proverbs and the Mishna in Avot:
אזן שמעת ועין ראה יהוה עשה גם שניהם
The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made both of them. - Proverbs 21:12
דַּע מַה לְּמַעְלָה מִמְּךָ, עַיִן רוֹאָה וְאֹזֶן שׁוֹמַעַת, וְכָל מַעֲשֶׂיךָ בַסֵּפֶר נִכְתָּבִין
Know what there is above you: an eye that sees, an ear that hears, and all your deeds are written in a book. - Avot 2:1
And the general New Agey, Wattsian ;) idea that, we are the consciousness of the cosmos. I guess the traditional mystics would state it rather: G-d is the consciousness of the cosmos, and we are the vessel, the eyes and ears of G-d. Not bad.
Thanks for the thought.
@@SeekersofUnity Excellent, very interesting comparisons! Love these discussions.
I found you guys both recently...you have very great videos...keep up 🖐
"The eye by which I see God is the eye by which God sees me" Meister Eckhart
You speak the truth. We are entering "the mystery." I grew up Baptist and the mystical idea you're describing is called the "Marriage of the Lamb." Union of opposites.
Thank you brother.
Really mind-blowing video. It's incredible how you are able to take such deep and spiritual concepts and break them down simply and I dare say secular way. Thank you so much! ❤
You’re most welcome. Thank you for the kind appreciation.
Three years later I come upon this video. This absolutely blew my mind!
Just wow! Your channel is superb. Thank you. Now I know why I have felt so drawn to Jungian Psychology. It takes me right back to why I've always appreciated Hassidic approach to Judaism. Thank you for this teaching
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You’re most welcome. Thank you for joining us and for your kind words.
This is such an amazing revelation of human mind and it's a vessel for God's mind. And through which we can actualize the divine mind. How powerful! ✨
Jung, the cartographer of the Uncounscious.... Well said Sir 😊
Thank you
I was glued to the screen from start to finish, very well done! I had a question regarding Abulafia: what did he think was the benefit of uniting within oneself then 10 archetypes of God/ the Sephirot?
Hey brother. Thank you so much. Nice to hear from you. In brief Abulafia saw the uniting the archetypes within oneself as the path to dvekut (unio mystica), nevuah (prophecy), and mashiach (messianism). Check out the full vid we did on him for more: ruclips.net/video/l085z91q648/видео.html
26 minutes in is when we finish talking about his life and start discussing his ideas and get right into this. Enjoy.
Jung's understanding changed dramatically after his visit to India in 1943. He was greatly influenced by the Vedanta. Judaism believes in GOD and creationism while Vedanta believes in Advaita and evolution.
Great video, i would take it a step further and posit that Jung had his own metaphysical idealism and believed that all was mind or divine mind and that the archetypes were a divine order similar to the sefirot.
Thank you Josh for that rich addition.
@Josh Pugin, I hear you! I think a Kabbalist may posit that Jungian archetypes are emanations and embodiments of the Sefirot.
I am always stunned and amazed at how much Jung's work and the mystic traditions of the world match almost word for word what I discovered after an existential experience of mine ^_^
As below so above is a beautiful summation and the mirror image of the manifestations of the collective unconscious feeding into the individual and the individuals own mind branching out. We know not where the roots reach as society is a living collective of dynamic history.
Is Yung pseudo canonical for kabalists?
Nothing is exclusive to a singular religion. These are universal truths expressed within every region of the world.
Great video :). When I first began studying Kabbalah (not much after new year just gone!) I recall thinking it seemed very close to Jungian psychology. Very interesting that you affirm this :D I'll have to check out the books you listed to add to my collection ;). Much love from England, keep up the good work and sharing the light!
Thank you friend. Glad to be sharing work that's resonating. With love, Zevi
Thoroughly fascinating... Thank you! I find myself inspired to reflect on Dōgen-zenji's 13th century exegesis of the celebrated verse of the Lotus Sūtra, "Only a Buddha and a Buddha can completely know the real aspects of all phenomena." Here, it is understood that Buddhas and sentient beings are "not two".
Follow-up QUESTION: Given that all order is an emergent structure supervening on random fluctuations in a field of chaos, the cosmos produced a plurality of spacetime geometries, i.e., structures. Instead of one G-d seeing through our eyes etc. it seems more plausible that there are many g-ds seeing through our eyes etc. As above so below inclines us instead to pluralism, not panentheism or any other mystical theism: What if the commandment is "You are to have no g-ds before you"? What if personal responsibility to our neighbours and ancestors is to be our guide through the many worlds in which we live and breathe and have our being? Much love!
I'm sending you through the Messenger a long quote from an essay of Dr. Sanford L.Drob, a jewish and a kabbalist , famous psychiatrist and forensic expert for the Hifgh Courts in New York State, demostrating in 28 points, put side by side ,how much of Jung's Archetypes Doctrine has been draft directly from Luria's Etz Chayim. A fascinating read that confirms what you just said in this episode. I used the same points in a conference with psycoanalists and counsellors and they were all mesmerized of the depth of Jewish kabbalah.
Jung was Swiss like me!!! He is one of my favorite!!! Really - you got them all!
Hehhe. It’s spiritual Pokémon. Gotta collect em all 😉
I came here for the discussion of Jung and kabbalah, and as great as that discussion was, the thing that really stood out to me is HOW CLEAN YOUR AUDIO IS!! Recording outside like that without a hint of background noise! Well done!
Haha, thanks so much. We're always working to improve our production quality to give you the best experience we can. Glad it's paying off. I hope the clarity of the audio didn’t distract you too much 😋
Some quick audio tips: Record on an external mic. Get it close to your face. Use a wind cover if you’re filming outside. Set your levels to sit around -12db. Raise it to just below 0 in edit. Use something like audacity to clean out background noise.
great video man, you touched on and expounded upon some things I've been thinking about lately. Super interesting learning about the kabbalah I've never known where to start with it.
Thank you so much. I'm glad I could be of assistance.
Brilliant talk and brilliantly presented! In 'Answer to Job' , Jung says - "The Pleroma must become conscious in man".
And yes, Jewish esoteric thought reached to the same conclusion - the role of man through meta-cognition facilitates "God" to reflect on Itself. Or as Jung insists that the ultimate goal is to "make the unconscious conscious".
Thank you Mihaela.
I have excellent news for all kabbalists aware of this interview where Jung says that The Rabbi Baer, the Great Maggid, anticipated his entire Psychology"
In Spain. (Barcelona) a great Jewish scholar published a Thesis of over 800 pages for his Phd in "La cábala: La psicología del misticismo judío"" ( Kabbala: the Psychology of Jewish Mysticism) It has not been translated yet into English and even though I am a translator I would not pretend to be able to translate it. However I could say one thing, that when that thesis gets translated it, we will truly enter a new century, a world where each individual would be his/her own therapist. Everything is hidden in the symbolism of the Tree of Life like a hollogram within each of us. The worlds, above infinity and beyond and the finite dimensions below where our egos contradict each other with arguments, orthodoxies, and theories in a world of fragmentation. And yes, the lead is "individuation", but it goes even further than what we had gained so far with Jungian theory, without contradicting anything
It corresponds with the Vedantic philosophy that the mind of a living entity (jīva) is one with the cosmic mind of God (Īśvara) as his manifestion as the great Hiranyagarbha werein all the galaxies exist.
The idea that God somehow "relies" on the Man is indicated subtly in Maimonides' Guide, where he states that the Kavod is the mind.
Oh fascinating. Thank you.
I would love to hear your take on the Tarot and Kabbalah
Thanks for the idea. We're gonna discuss it all. One at a time 😋
@@SeekersofUnity will you be getting into hermetic kabbalah or golden dawn at all?
I do have an interest in Christian and Perennialist Kabbalists and hope to get into them here. I'd recommend checking out our map of Mysticism over at seekersofunity.com it will give you a good sense of what we hope to explore here.
me too, it is by studying tarot that i've discovered this channel and so glad i did! the map you have on your website is full of knowledge, will study it slowly so thank you, thank you, thank you. have a blessed day :)
Another amazing class. Toda raba achi.
Discerning the personal consciousness from the collective consciousness & the
personal unconscious from the collective unconscious
Tremendously interesting! Are there any hasidic original texts you would recommend if one is interested in the "psychological" understanding of religion?
Perhaps the Tanya by Shneur Zalman of Liadi.
@@SeekersofUnity is ordered
@@ultrahumanist You won't be able to make sense of the Tanya, it demands familiarity and understanding with previous knowledge. If I were you I'd first get familiar with Hasdism as a Sect of the bigger context of Judaism. "Psychological" interpretations of Kabbalah such as Jung or Jordan Peterson's are highly interesting and insightful, but this is not Kabbalah, this is an Analysis of Kabbalah, which is a different thing altogether.... Nothing wrong with it, but just realize you're not learning Kabbalah.
This was absolutely tremendous. Please do more videos on this topic! Can you provide us the source in the Toldos and in the Magid that you quoted?
Thank you so much. I'm glad it was helpful. Certainly, here are the sources:
R. Jacob Joseph of Polonnoye, Toldot Ya'akov Yoseph, fol. 86a: "There are ten Sefirot in man, who is called microcosmos..." From, Moshe Idel, Kabbalah: New Perspectives, p. 150, who notes: “Although this quotation is fragmentary, it is nevertheless obvious that the founder of Hasidism interpreted the entire sefirotic scheme as referring to mystical states on the human level.”
The Maggid, Ohr Ha'Emet, fol. 36c-d: “Once the rabbi admonished someone because he was discussing Kabbalah in public. That person answered him: "Why do you discuss Kabbalah in public, too?" He [the Great Maggid] answered him: "I teach the world to understand that everything written in Sefer 'Ez Hayyim also exists in this world and in man. However, I do not explain the spiritual matters of Sefer 'Ez Hayyim; but you discuss everything which is written in 'Ez Hayyim literally, and thus you transform the spiritual into corporeal; but the sublime spiritual world is [indeed] ineffable.” From Idel, Kabbalah, p. 151, who comments: “Like his master, R. Dov Baer did not deny the existence of the complex Lurianic theosophy, but was primarily interested in its immanence in this world and in man.”
Hello. Thank you for this video. I am glad that there are more videos about Jung analysis.
I know that you already made video about "Answer to Job", but it was too short. And you said that: "you have read it long time ago", and that you need to "refresh your understanding of it". Could you make much more advanced and bigger analysis of "Answer to Job"? That would be nice and interesting. Thank you.
p.s. - sorry for my "shitty" english))
Your English is fantastic, no need to apologise. Hmmm i suppose we can revisit _Answer to Job_ so long as people are not getting bored of the Jung series.
With love,
Zevi
this is truly the most epic of topics thank u so much
Glad you think so. Thank you.
I was trained by L.G Corey , Yakov Ben Leib Hakoahin . My teacher trained under James so I am well within the line of that line of transmission , we were often called the mystic jungians , we used to be mocked . Interesting how times change my teachers calling was not in vain but I see some exciting things coming together , I really enjoy your video , and love you name . My teacher practiced and taught Neo Sabbatian Kabbalah
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I love it! Thank you for posting pics of the books in your video!
You're most welcome. I'm glad found the images helpful.
Yours,
Zevi
Each religion has a mystical hidden journey..
For example..
Jewish tradition: Egypt to wilderness (led by Moses the lawgiver), to Promised land (led by Joshua-love), to Solomon's temple.
Followers of Jesus: Egypt to wilderness (saved by the law), to ministry (gift of love), to the cross.
Muslims mosque pilgrimage: To Mecca (white-law), to Medina (green dome-love), to The Temple Mount (gold dome).
All culminating in union with the Creator (awareness).
...including C. G. Jung's spiritual journey.
Interesting stuff, I wasn't familiar with that jung quote, who doesn't love Dovber ז״ל, and bilingual tautological names like Dovber
The Binding of Isaac:
Bringing the horrors of existence from an unconscious state into consciousness was, I believe, the first leap for mankind.
From the ‘Mount of Sight’: STOP!
Abraham saw the animal sacrifice preventing repeated escapes from the reality of consciousness (OMG! What have I done while I was unconscious?) into the unconsciousness.
The archetype for Trusting in God and a permanent conscious state of mind. 10:39
Absolutely love these videos! Thanks for doing such a great job on unpacking mysticism.
Thank you Maxie. There’s a lot more to come, hopefully 🙏🏼
Fantastic, love this video, Thank you
You’re most welcome Scott 🙏🏼 Thank you
Aunque entiendo su mensaje en Ingles quisiera que fuese posible subtitulos en español pues esta información es tan importante para el crecimiento de todos qué habría más posibilidad de que otros accedieran a ella. Gracias
Good stuff mate
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Also, for 10 points, anyone recognize where the sefirot character in this vids thumbnail's from?
Shalom Aleichem! Do you have an English translation of the Tolaat Yaakov (from the quote in the video)?
Tool has been my favorite band with Jungian lyrics and Kabbalah art.. I've never felt more Jewish.
ive had a convo with god and everything said at at 10min+ is 100% correct
If that’s not good peer review. I don’t know what is 🤷🏻♂️
Regarding of Jung owing anything to anyone, for his psychology, i think you should sit down an read Jungs Red Book, Liber Novus.
Hah! Very good!
479 to like! thank you for the compelling argument. i have a bias against Jung that you have given me pause to reconsider or at least reframe in terms of the question of a plurality of contexts for the deep, hereditary or underlying source of imagination or a monolithic original source of meaning consistent with the monotheisms of the Abrahamic traditions. Is there a unitary structure undergirding the imaginal faculties of human consciousness or is there a plurality of such structures? Is the answer theosophical or empirical? Much love!
very interesting, thanks.
You're most welcome.
PsychologistMystic 🙏
Great series! Now I'm buying the Zohar ad Buber's
Thank you Sergio. Glad you liked it 🙏🏼
gad to have found you!
Glad to have been found by you :)
Fantastic video!
Thank you Craig 🙏🏼
@@SeekersofUnity I liked the Willam James one you put out last week too. James was a big influence on my “ Arguments From Religious Experience” type videos.
Good stuff!
@@craigreedtcr9523 Thank you :)
Would you or have you ever looked into the Kabbalist Baba Sali? He comes from a long line of tzadik/saddiq’s , it is fascinating.
I haven't. I would love to though.
I love this channel!
Thank you so much! We love you!
this would mean God does not exist in the manner we think. What does this mean for prayer?
That’s a really really great question Jamar. We hope to address the question of prayer in relation to mysticism and religion in depth in it’s own video or series. Stay tuned 😉
May I suggest that if you choose to reference an enormous amount of esoteric material -- books/folios -- please write out the name / title in addition to the abstract "cover art". Best, -Sam
That’s a great idea. Thank you 🙏🏼
Hello! I recently got into your work. I have a few people that I think you might be interested in (despite the barriers of language). I am Punjabi and have been taught the works of Bulleh Shah, Waris Shah, and Fareed Ganjshakar. Their poetry and allegories are one of the finest. I think you will be able to find them in English. And there are many others. Their work is the foundation for sufism in Punjab. Forgive me if you have already heard of them as I just got into your channel
Much Love
Thank you so much. I'll have to try find them in English and check them out.
Much love,
Zevi
Brilliant!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Hello and greetings. Thank you for posting. I'm unclear as to the pronunciation, spelling and meaning of the word/term spoken, surots? furots? Thanks for clarifying. Regards.
Hi there. Thanks for joining us. The word was Sefirot and here’s a class we shared on that concept: ruclips.net/video/H9KCjYHm9hE/видео.html
Thanks!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Neumann's "origin of jewish conciousness" has been published since. Is this the manuscript you are refering to?
ALL Abrahamic Religious Thoughts about GOD (regardless the name) Says : That He is the Light in The Hearts Of ManKind. If We Can See the Light ... we Get enlighten and enlightened by the Presence of HIM ... in Us and ALL Around Us
were did you read that Jung felt Inddededness that Rabbi.
C. G. Jung Speaking, McGuire and Hull (eds.), 1977, pp. 271-2.
Nice.
Thank you.
so good
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Jesus Huh kyung young . Great secret .
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Jung took from everywhere, and his own experience. There's only one reality, to study. The creation of the world is the creation of man. No humans no universe? Could it be so? Mushrooms taught me that, but current science disagrees.
The question is, if a mushroom was a scientist, what would they say? (Check out Paul Stamets for the answer.)
What does that actually mean?🤔
What makes Jungs work magnificient and most important, is in my opinion, that he showed man a way to have an experience with the Self, so you dont need to believe, because you experienced, hence theres no need for dogma.
I ask you, does any religion available today, offer a way for the person to experience an encounter with the Self (Godhead) (image of god) ?
I dont think so.
As above so below. Isnt this an Egyptian concept?
It’s a concept common to many traditions. Perhaps best know today in its Hermetic expression.
@@SeekersofUnity I do not find this concept in Judaism. This is totally Egyptian concept. No way related to Judaism.
See the Kabbalistic and Hasidic commentary which reads Mishna Chagiga 2:1: מה למעלה, מה למטה, as, as above, so below.
@@SeekersofUnity oh thanks. I will surely check. It is new to me. I sincerely believe that this is not Jewish concept. Regards. 🙏🙏
Best of luck my friend.
Going from symbols of the divine to inner workings of the psyche is one thing, but has Jung attempted to utilize religious symbols in his analysis of society? (i can only recall reading a general analysis of prewar Germany, never using religious themes)
That a great question, and one which i should have expected coming from the Sociologist himself ;) I don't know Jung well enough to answer, but i can recommend perusing _Jung and Sociological Theory_ by Walker (ed.) for info on that question. Best of luck.
Jung primarily focused on the unconscious of the individual, and so did most Classical Jungian psychologists. Although, throughout his oeuvre, there is extensive references to society, and social paradigms, again, mostly emphasizing these phenomena extend from the psychologies of individuals themselves. For example: "Society is the sum total of individual psychologies" is a well-known quote. Jung emphasizes that political theories and sociological theories are loaded with projective material (see CW Vol 6, Psychological Types), and emphasizes the path towards collective healing/integration is through the individual assimilation of the unconscious by discovering unique meaning -- i.e. Individuation. He repeatedly emphasizes collective catastrophes rest on the inadequate consciousness of individuals. -Sam
So do you agree with Jung ?
Haha, who am i to agree?
@@SeekersofUnity yourself?
You must think and decide for yourself. What i think is inconsequential.
@@SeekersofUnity - You've read plenty of Jung so far to the point that you feel qualified to teach others about him. Do you agree with him or not ?
I can only present the information, as i understand it. The agreeing or disagreeing you'll have to do for yourself.
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If Human Religion is real it 100% will NOT be only certain groups of people. All Religions can be traced to their origins. Iphone right in everyone's hands.
Is it heretical to study ALL of your own Species' Religion?
It's real. Or it is not. Any help would be appreciated. If youre missing words: Gottfried Leibniz' Rationalist metaphysics.
If youre missing math: Pythagoras.
100% not heretical to study ALL OF YOUR OWN RELIGION.
Is the son of perdition declaring himself God here, like in 2 Thessalonians 2:3?
That's an awfully anthropocentric and small "me me me" way of thinking/experiencing.. How do you know it's the mind of God? It can be just another small creation from him. There's been many philosophies trying to deal with this "all mind" whereas that itself may be just another creation. How do you it's "God's" mind? God is infinite.
This theory seems so completely contradictory to reality, I am disappointment that you didn't address this obvious disconnect. If it is up to humanity to manifest the mind of God, which only exists as unconscious potential, then go ahead and use your conscious intention to create a solar system, or even a cat! How can anyone possibly think that the Creator of the universe has a less clear consciousness than man?
Put another way, did you notice that the mind of God, which you think exists only as unconscious potential that needs the mind of man to manifest, somehow that mind of God managed to manifest the entire universe without any help at all from the mind of man?
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You like Shapiro speak too fast. Thus i come to conclusion that you are young and not so into understanding these topics. Yet, i wish to thank you.
Thank you brother. Thank you for the feedback on my pace i'll try slow down. Regarding my youth, i know all too well and am working at being less young every day, it'll pay off, come back in a little, just give it some time, guaranteed. You're right, this in particular isn't my area of greatest interest, i hope to muster the courage to talk about the things closer to my heart as the project continues. Maybe it will come with age. Why do you wish to thank me?
@nemanja, if you slow the clip speed down to 0.75 I think you will find it very relaxed and nuanced
That's a seriously good idea. Thanks D.
@@SeekersofUnity Why lecture on this if it "isn't [your] area of greatest interest?" -- Isn't it said, "Speak about what you know?" -- I think we're striving for new knowledge, to interrelate ideas from "other domains." That is healthy; we speak fast because there is a lot to say! Anyways, my friend, I think we would do well to have a chat and publish it. From your specialty, which I assume is the Jewish Kabbalah background, to my own, which is psychological.
Different strokes for different folks. I personally like the pace - although I have to admit I often hit the pause button & scroll back to let the many profound connections and explanations sink in. In saying that, I'm 63 years old, familiar with Jungian psychology from my mid-20s & have a rudimentary grasp of the Kabbalah which no doubt helps...