When Rolling Light in BJJ Goes Wrong. . .
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In today's video I answer a question from someone who was trying to light roll and it went wrong for him. Basically he said he was trying to go a little easier and ended up getting into a tough roll with someone who didn't go at the same pace as him.
After the roll he was both frustrated by the situation and upset with himself for getting angry. In this video I share some ideas on choosing training partner for rolling in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and also some of my own experiences of trying to go light, but getting rough rolled.
Hope the video is helpful to you!
-Chewy
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A good tip for keeping a roll light, is asking your partner what they what to work on. For example, if they want to work on guard passing, you can reset every time they pass, and it can help stop things from getting too hectic.
This is gold! Keeping the roll objective based to control the pace. 🤔
That's really good advice
This is great advice and what I do quite often with the less experienced. I’m a 110kg purple belt at 47 and I don’t do it because I’m worried about injuries (yet) but because I don’t want to smesh them with sub after sub as I and they don’t learn much from that.
I’d prefer to pass on knowledge and often stop to discuss their options and game plan for a particular position we find ourselves in rather than leave them to scramble with flailing knees and elbows due to not having enough tools in the box yet.
PS it easy for things to escalate as it’s a fighting art and I always wear my mouthguard now after chipping teeth a few years back when someone brought the death match after saying “let’s roll light bro”!
"Let's roll light." My go-to phrase when I'm (a) tired, (b) feeling slow or lazy, or (c) not feeling like getting smashed into oblivion. As a 43-year-old purple belt having trained for six years, I have learned the beauty of being selective about rolling partners and pace. Not because I don't appreciate different rolling styles, body types, etc., but I just gotta make sure I can walk off the mat with enough of my body in tact to roll the next night, haha!
Honestly that’s really great advice. I’m an athletic 18 year old guy who wrestled. Going “light” last about 15 seconds. Now three years in, I take is slow with people but that is a phenomenal tip
In my experience the guys who ask to roll light end up rolling the hardest. Personally I will match whatever energy I'm given
'Let's go light bro' always tired and that's why he asks. Then they turn it up to 100% right after 😂 . Give as you get 👍
That's how I do it. I tell new students this all the time. If you don't want to go hard....then don't go hard. LOL Most higher ranks will match intensity and let newbies work. At least a good training partner will do this.
I turn 50 this year. Mid blue. Half the gym is blue and everyone is a lot younger. I'm coming back from injuries. I've cut rolling at open mat time down significantly because I don't want to get into the spartan death matches. I feel like a giant wuss about it, but the alternative is missing a month of training due to injury. When I try and go light- guys just use it to flex.
I wouldn’t worry about it. People should understand that it’s not a tournament mindset. Open mat is meant to explore techniques you haven’t quite mastered. They are your teammates and they should give you a challenge, but not push you 100% every roll. If you can’t find anyone who can control their ego, switch gyms.
Thanks for ur input Andy. 58 yo 4 stripe wht belt. In June I tore the top of my rt foot literally off. Tendon nerve and vascular injuries. Back on mat late July everyone being awesome rolling partners. Thursday night ( no gi night ) rolled w 17 yo wht belt. Because of my foot I’m mostly looking to keep an open guard or half guard and work on retaining when I lose those positions. This 17 yo kid goes apes sht I screw up he takes my back stretches me out and chokes the fk out of me. First time ever I felt anger and walked off mat for water and to cool down.
Days later and I’m still thinking about showing this 6’4” 130 lb kid what violence feels like. Lord willing humility rules over our next roll but can’t guarantee it or I just don’t roll w him and like u said I don’t want to feel like a “wuss” and avoid the challenge.
57 yo purple belt. Struggling to train regularly. Figured out mornings are better because evenings affect my sleep quality and recovery. You do have to start being choosy and conservative in partner selection. Best guys at my gym are almost pros now, BJJ takes precedence over work. I will generally roll with the bigger, stronger whites and blues to give them some reasonable opposition and save the other white belts from being smashed.
I am a 50yr old Blue Belt.. I have several other Blue Belts near my age who understand and we roll well together. There are several others who seem to be trying to get a UFC contract or something, I have way too many injuries from them. My professor is really good at making those pairings and is quick to stop rolls when he thinks they are cross that line.
@@Seven-gf7uo did you ask him to roll light? if not you don’t have a reason to be mad and should check your anger towards a child who’s probably ignorant otherwise, if you asked to roll light, i feel you brother , no problem with just telling somebody you got an injury
Some people's idea of "rolling light" is actually: "YOU roll light, while I go ape sh1t crazy and try to maul you into total defeat."
I bet most BJJ students know at least one person who does this crap.
@Damien Rhodes so there's no misunderstanding
Unless I have a competition coming up or I'm nursing an injury, it's good to roll with the spaz sometimes. Learning to stay calm while the other person is acting like they're high on bath salts is a valuable skill that will help in both competition and possibly a self defense situation.
If they muscle themselves into a good position, it's just another opportunity to work on my escapes.
All the good BJJ coaches and channels will say the same thing, lose the ego in your BJJ training. There's no winners and losers in practice. If a guy submits you when you thought you were just flowing, who cares? If they are ripping submissions and being unsafe, that is completely different, and the coach needs to have a discussion with them.
Always love the videos Chewy!
@@MrNll004 That sucks, sorry to hear about your injuries. Yeah, size discrepancy can definitely be an issue. Being a bigger guy myself, I just don't understand how these big guys that go crazy on the smaller guys exist. With smaller guys, I try to work on technique and speed, rather than muscling through positions or submissions. I guess it's just lack of self-awareness and how you can really hurt someone if you get careless. I definitely was a spaz when I first started, but I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything reckless when I was rolling with a guy where I had an obvious size/strength advantage. I'd feel like an idiot if someone smaller than me got hurt because I was being a jerk on the mat.
The only way to roll light is to accept a few submissions , imo .
@@MrNll004 Sounds like a great gym culture. Love to hear it.
Yeah I like surviving against big brutes.
I don't like it though when you agree on a speed and they take advantage of that to hurt you (like suddenly going 100% after you let them get a hold).
If you know you are that person you need to tell your partners.
I agree with your sentiment, but spazzy people (especially those who treat rolls like it's a tournament) are dangerous. Just got injured a few days ago & it sucks.
I'm a 42 yr old 2 stripe white belt. I prefer rolling with higher ranks. No scrambling or spazzy stuff, and for the most part, they aren't out to impress anyone. As a white belt, I will say that white belts are the most dangerous people to roll with.
That's a known fact
Most dangerous guy in the room is the one who doesn't know what he's doing. Whether it be BJJ, boxing, Muay Thai, etc. It's universal
My instructor always says that there are 2 phrases that you can never trust: 1) let's go light 2) just the tip.
LOLOLOLOL
When I say rolling light and they act like this I just tap out immediately regardless of position and tell them i'm done rolling with them today.
Me too, perfect.
Same here
Honestly, that sounds like a great policy
I agree with what you said with rolling angry, it feels dirty
The grimmiest feeling if I "win" after getting angry during a roll
For me it's when your partner doesn't realize they're being a dick and you have to serve a bit of mat justice. My trigger is when lower belts grab and bend my fingers. It usually starts with a warning "hey man, no fingers". Any continued dick moves get the competition treatment. Hard rolling, quick subs and maybe some forearm grinding in the chin. Every single time I end up feeling like an asshole for doing it but thinking about it off the mat I'm like "did I have to take it that far?" I feel like it's almost an inherent panic button but it's something I've never done so I can't quite get my head around it.
I started my jiu jitsu journey in 2007 with an Army Combatives background- I was the guy with 1 gear. For me, the biggest growth in my game came when I learned how to slow it down. That said I have two friends who I've been training with this whole time and anytime we get together those "light rolls" turn to wars
"It was an accident. We're not playing patty cake."
That was tonight. A scramble led to a shin to the face and a shiner. Guess I'll be explaining that tomorrow.
“We’ll go light”. Famous last words
Honestly, the times I really get hurt are where training partners go from light to intense out of nowhere.
A really strong white belt made me angry a few weeks ago. Rolling angry is terrible. I tapped him two times really quick and brutal after that and felt like crap. I apologized after that and everything was cool. I still went home feeling sad. I picked him again for the next roll and it still wasn't a nice or technical roll, but I felt OK playing the old man "I'll survive" Jiu Jitsu.
“Cmon bro let’s just flow roll”
Ha I just had one of those, triangled them.
Man I remember this one guy, he said he was a little hurt, I was trying to be a good training partner and suggested we go light, he agreed and thanked me.
We was going really light/slower, I got him in 50/50 position very early, so he went 100% crazy and YANKED a kimura after he escaped.
I was abit dumb, I did not match his intensity to defend against it, I was still trying to be a good training partner because he was hurt....but he really nearly snapped my shoulder before I could tap.
This shit gets dangerous, if you can't go light, tell your partner.
Slap - Bump then "THIS IS SPARTA!!!"
I am Sparta lol
48 years old. 6'3 210 lbs., athletic build. I'm one of the older guys in the gym but also still one of the stronger and most explosive. 3 stripe white belt - a year and 4 months of training. I don't do politics and everyone at the gym knows it. I have no problem declining an invitation to roll. I'll get down with anyone - but not anytime. I go to open mats once a week always, sometimes twice - I know I'm going to war then and I'll take on all comers. If a spazzy roller or someone I know has a tendency to go hard and fast on subs (whether from our gym or a visitor) I know what I'm getting into and I default to high alert when rolling. On a regular day if I've done a heavy lift session at the gym earlier in the day or if I'm just not feeling it I will pass up an invite to go with one of the aforementioned characters and tell them I'll go with them at open mat that weekend. I've found that people respect the matter of fact approach I take, especially since I mean what I say and roll with them at open mat. Of course there's a huge physicality aspect to preventing injury but I think mindset has a lot to offer as well. If there's a part of you that's signaling alarms at rolling with a particular person I say heed the warnings and act accordingly. If you're going against someone that you know doesn't have mid-level gears you should roll with them when you feel up to it, and shelf the roll when you don't.
I'm the weakest member of my academy. I'll try and roll light but that goes out of my mind when I start to roll. I'm trying to keep posture, pull guard and a million other things. I'm never upset if people don't roll with me and great full when they do. I want roll light but panic. A big guy called Mario hugged me from guard one day and told me to stop fighting!
And that's when I started to be more aware about my actions.
Guys a lot lighter and younger than me still submit me 7 plus times a roll. And I'm cool with that, but physically been stopped and told opened my eyes.
Easing my breathing is a big one for me
We all were new (er) just keep going. It'll change in few months.
Dude, you just described me to a T. I'm new (4 weeks or so) and am embarrased to slowly realize that I've been for going waaaay too hard.
When I first started, adrenaline tends to kick in mid roll, and momentum continues. Fight or flight if you will. It wasn’t until after several months that I was able to slow down. Actually, everything started to slow down. Also, being ok with getting passed, reversed, and tapped helped me.
8:45 -- "he was so sad about it" -- he was sad because he didn't knock you out
Great video as always and something I’ve faced recently about getting angry when someone says let’s roll light and then they don’t
I get it! I refuse to even horseplay with any bjj practitioner... It's always too risky
I laughed at your comments about warming up. I’m 43 with 11 years of Bjj training and a lot of miles on my body too. I always say I’m like a classic car, the first 10 mins I’m spitting and sputtering but once the fluids are flowing I’ll roll as hard as any of the kids. Unfortunately like old cars the gas tank is small and runs dry very fast. 🤣
It is impossible to roll with some guys due to size, body type, temperament, etc when they have no idea of how not to spaz out. I have learned that I can't roll with some guys who can't control themselves. Sometimes, you have to say no. I have gone against my gut and rolled with some guys (known for being spazzes) when injured (trying to go light) and have often regretted it.
I always ask people to do situational rolls when I want to go light. with the rules of whoever is in dominant position loses the position we reset, and the person on top is working either to maintain position or go for a sub from that position.
Bob, you can always tap out of a whole roll. I also feel the pressure to continue, but try to keep your rational perspective. You can't get better or have nearly as much fun if you're injured/pissed. Recognize immaturity and avoid it rather than join in.
Im 171 lbs, been training 4 years, and a blue belt. Got a guy at our gym who is a former collegiate wrestler. Weighs about 220 or so and kind of wild on the mats.
He told me the other day that he was coming for me or basically that he had a goal to beat me. I told him I will be running the other direction then.
I'm sorry if you are a blue belt or higher you gotta have a dial with more than one setting. "Doesn't know how to go light" is just someone who refuses to learn... Probably out of straight ego. Maybe my biggest pet peeve in BJJ.
50% should mean 50% no matter what. To some of these spazzy experienced blue/purples/Browns 50% means 50% until I'm not winning the roll, and then as much as it takes after that. Just ego IMO.
I 100% agree. I can understand it with white belts but when upper belts do this I am shocked.
Lol, yup. “Let’s go light. Until I’m losing.”
There are a couple of guys at my gym like this that complain I roll too hard when one of us says to go light. But from my perspective if you rip a standing toreando pass… you’re basically telling me you want to beat me while I go light and you don’t. Drives me nuts, but we are able to laugh about it.
If a dude starts saying to go light and the other dudes amps it up: suck it up and stick to your promise. Just keep tapping: they start to feel weird. Just keep tapping.
Good plan.
Thank you for your perspective, Professor Chewy.
Great advice.
Nik
I roll every session, and always feel safe with my sparring partners, I refuse to roll with 1 guy who’s crazy spazzy, knee’d me in the jaw within 30 seconds, I just refuse to roll with him. Aside from that, the club and instructors are a perfect atmosphere to train in :)
I get this all the time. I've been doing jiu-jitsu for almost 4 years. I'm a 2 degree white belt and have rolled with skinny to big guys. They always go for it, and my reactions are so slow and I try to find a solution, but I always get submitted.
Thanks for the great discussion!
Thank you professor 😎
So I’m 41 here is my story, we were doing 3 min sparring sessions at the end of the class. Before each person I rolled with I told them very clearly “ hey look I need to go super light, my hand is completely taped like a spatula cause a hyper extended thumb, my elbow is inflamed (same one that got barred), plus a disc in my back is also twingy. I’m beat up cause I have been training hard so let’s take it super easy” Each person including the guy that got me assure me they would go light. First 3 guys were great, no issues. Went to roll with this last guy, had the same conversation and we agreed to go 30% or less. I told him my thumb is bugging me so I’m not even gonna use my right hand. At first it was mild but then as I started shutting stuff down he amped up more, so I backed off and gave up position intentionally so as to not amp things up and keep it flowy. I was losing position but it was fine I was holding how I could without it escalating. He got into mount, I figured I would ride out the rest of the time defending him on top no biggie, if he chokes me oh well. He was not able to get a choke though and I guess at some point my arm popped up and he locked in a spinning armbar from mount, my elbow popped before he even hit the ground plus he hit the ground with it tight. It wasn’t that I didn’t know how to defend the arm bar and he got me, it’s that I didn’t defend it at all thinking we were going super light. Not that my arm bar defense is perfect cause it’s obviously not, but I definitely could have and would have shut it down had I known he was gonna attempt to lock one in on me. I was under the impression we were going light and he wasn’t going to throw something on me same as I would do if we were sprilling. Mild resistance. I didn’t want to resist any harder and tempt him to pull harder on something the I end up hurt so I was mostly letting him have stuff, Obviously letting down my guard to someone I didn’t know was a mistake. Not saying it was my fault, dude fucked up not me, just saying it’s the lesson I’m taking away from it.
So that’s the crux of it. I don’t think he did it on purpose, I think he got caught up in the moment, but it was for sure his fault and he knew it. I was super pissed, so much so I just packed up and left cause I felt like if I confronted him the way I felt it would have escalated quickly then I would just end up looking like the dick. He apologized, I said it’s cool, he asked “are you sure it’s cool or are you lying to me”? I said I’m for sure lying to you, but don’t worry about it and left.
Great speech, thanks bro! I ´ve just started to teach and this kind of content helps me a lot!
Thanks for this. Been watching vids that cover this topic from multiple angles. I'm new to BJJ and struggling to dial it back!! I fear on my way to being "the guy folks avoid"
If we agree to roll light, we're rolling light. If the energy ramps up, I'm stopping the round. Tell him that we're going light and try it again. If I have to stop it again, we're done.
This exact thing happened to me at Muay Thai last Monday...my coach told me the same thing.
I’m so thankful we don’t have any clowns in our class, but we don’t really go easy either, but we don’t have anyone trying to hurt anyone either. Thanks for the video.
Appreciate the comment.
Imagine playing patty cake and ending up with a broken nose. Lol.
Can you do a video on roll "percentages"? What does it mean to go 100%? What does it mean to go 50%? What does that look like? Is there a 20%? 75%? I currently don't do bjj, but if/when I do, I'd like to know if I'm going at the right percentage so I don't roll like a pit bull or a lifeless ragdoll.
The correct intensity as a lower belt is the one that doesnt make the higher belts look foolish.
When you first started giving tips I thought you said "medication" is very helpful lol!
To add to my other comment I just left on your other video, I tend to roll light from the get go. Not sure if it's a good or bad habit. I thoroughly enjoyed the Zen Machines style. Mario Sperry. Just rolled so effortlessly. That's my goal. Doesn't always happen! Shit I slowed roll into a deep half position just last week, and I kinda forgot the basic concept of it, paid the price and got smashed by a heavy blue belt. But some white belts, yeah, you gotta lay the law down sometimes.
Match strength with strength. Personally, I call this an ego roll, the other person takes advantages because they’ve called for a light roll. I like a flow roll, lots of experimentation and trying tons of stuff.
I tend to match the intensity of my sparring partners. At any point where i feel someone is too over bearing on me i'll politely ask them to chill a bit and let them know i'm not trying to kill them or some scenarios just tapout mid spar even if when i'm not in a submission or hold and let them know i want to go a little lighter or ask what they want to focus on.
I wonder it's just me sometimes when i roll with someone not as skilled as i am and they're really aggressive like clearly going nearly 100% on me i see it as a challenge like: How much i can handle just based on skill alone without resorting to my physical strength or speed? It's kind of interesting i usually ending up mounting them after like 2-3 minutes of them relentlessly trying to submit me and they're out of breath. Not all the time though lol
Just experienced this for the first time. I did BJJ for a month or two then 6 month break from injuries. Came back, met a new white belt and was super respectful and assumed he didn't know much so I'm like how hard do you wanna go and he's like "lets go real light" so even though I'm a white belt who knows nothing, I thought this guy knew even less, so I completely let him get on top of me without trying, thinking I'm helping this guy learn, then basically he acts like he's in a life or death situation and is trying to kill me, even attempted a neck crank. When we finished I said do you have something to prove or what? I swear I was so close to saying mate i'm here to practice BJJ if you want to fight lets go outside and we'll see what happens then.. but I decided to keep it respectful. Then I took a break round, he got smashed by another white belt, then I rolled with the white belt who smashed him and I'm like hey man did he pull the same shit on you? and he's like yeah..
The only good thing that came from this, is I actually understand how annoying it is wanting to practice bjj and the guy thinks we're in the jungle and it's life or death, and I thought to myself, that's probably how other people feel when they roll with me and I spaz on them, so it helped me calm down my own game.
I had a similar situation with a training partner who is basically stronger, faster, more advanced and I used to try to keep up with him. He got me in a RNC with his forearm across my neck and put pressure on my windpipe hard and fast. On another occasion I was rolling with him and he guillotined me very aggressively, I got angry and slapped him on his back pretty hard instead of lightly tapping, which rightfully upset him, so I came away feeling ashamed and embarrassed of myself for having lost control. In my mind I felt like a little kid again... but I learned from the situation and to like to think i have grown from it.
Honest truth, the only injury I've had (knock on wood) is a dislocated middle finger and it occurred during a flow roll. It didn't even get aggressive, it was just a freak thing.
I am having a hard time following your video today with that super shiney youtube metal in the background ;-) sooo shiney! Like the new background chewy
Haha thanks Melody.
@@Chewjitsu 🤙🏼😁
This might be odd, but sometimes, I go ‘light’ when rolling with males (me: average sized female). This happens when the male, maybe much younger or bigger or a combination of both goes ‘easy’ on me. In some cases there is a big skill differences. I have more experience than the guy. I don’t want to be a jerk and add in power/strength when the guy is ‘holding back’. What I fail to acknowledge is the inherent power and strength difference between males and females. I know and accept ‘men are stronger’, but in the moment of rolling I’m just thinking ‘he’s said he’ll go easy, I would be a jerk if I didn’t too. The fact is , his going easy is probably still more powerful than my most powerful self; especially if there is a substantial age difference (I’m old - 61😢😢). I have been training consistently for over 9 years and my experience is a factor, but that factor definitely diminishes rolling with a healthy 20-30 year old male😊. I will say, it has happened that some guys interpret ‘go easy’ as do nothing. If he is doing nothing and I full on attack, I feel like a jerk.
I remember when this larger Blue belt told me "go easy on me", then IMMEDIATLY jumps my guard, takes my back and throws up a nasty loop choke and YANKS it hard before I get to tap. What a freaking POS! My throat hurt the entire night and for the next few days. Nowadays, I will tell people right off the bat that I want to only flow roll and not go hard at all. My absolute worse pet peeve when you want to go light and they just go ham.
I'm always worried that I'm gonna be the bad guy in one of these Bob questions
Me too
Gotta be real here. If you say you want to roll light, and the other person doesn't, then just roll light anyway. If you roll light, then there's not really any way for them to do shit really hard because by that point you just tap.
But that's just it people don't want to tap, when they, at the same time, don't consider the concession to "roll light" to be a submission in the first place.
The only time I've ever been mad on the mat was about 2 or 3 weeks before one of my sparring partners fight. Context, he was fighting a guy who talked alot of smack and at the end of camp he was full on murderer mentality. I get it and I was willing to match that energy and take some lumps if I have to as long as my teammate is getting what he needs to perform for his fight. And for 2 or 3 days in a row he was grinding elbows in myy thighs and shoulders and i was frustrated but let it go but then he grabbed my throat and pushed his fingers in around my windpipe. Now there is no chance he can do that In the octagon so it doesn't help him at all, and could have seriously hurt me. I kjew he only did it as he was frustrated I wasn't letting him advanced position and I yelled at him afterwards for quite a bit. Don't break your toys or you got nothing to play with dummy.
Good job laying a very firm boundary and not backing down. I think in this situation it's very reasonable. Sometimes if they're being continuously ignorant or just really out of line, you can't back down-you have to teach them a lesson/tell them to back down and see that they're in the wrong.
Asked a new go to take it slow, he responded with "Ill follow your pace"
spoiler alert
He did not follow my pace
I had meniscus surgery a couple months ago it was my first class back yesterday i this dude is well aware of my surgery and the amount of time it took me to recover I told him I’m trying to flow roll and first thing he does is shoot into single leg x on my repaired leg and tries to sweep me like it’s the finals at adcc
I just started at a new academy after prob 5 years of not training. Felt like I had a target on my back, everyone's like "are you new to town" ect, come time to roll it was like the ADCC trials. Next time I go I'm gonna ask whoever I pair up with to roll at a lower intensity / flow roll bc honestly the death matches just lead to aches, pains and possibily injuries + are you really even learning anything? I've found that during 100% rolls I revert back to my techniques I already know well and don't even get a chance to try anything we just worked on or drilled. I dont completely discount the usefulness of rolling hard, but I also realize for the most part it's pretty counter productive.
I purposely start VERY slow with everyone just to see what they'll do in return. Then I reciprocate.
This is so funny. We have this (3) striped blue belt that is 68 years old. He is this guy. So funny he goes all in, and he has these replaced knees, and rebuild shoulders. Luckily I’m also a mid level blue belt so I have to physically slow him down. I give him crap about it. He has 2 speeds, laying down and full tilt. I’m 42 years old.
I got angry for the first time while rolling after training for a month, It was the same thing with the really hard choke. I ended up yelling at the guy and I feel so embarassed about it
Personally I can't go hard without anger. Literally impossible. I have to make myself angry to be aggressive. That said I never got so angry that I lost control and started yanking subs or some other shit.
This happens to me alot because I always get small injuries so sometimes I like to take it lighter. Idk why guys are like this, lack of self control or something? My policy now is to rip kimuras after giving some good shoulder.
I have a partner that really rolls hard even when we are supposed to “roll light”. It’s frustrating, because I just want to focus on improving my technique, but this guy just wants to go wild and all over the place.
Me and one of my partners every time we roll we say let's just take this one light and after 30 seconds it looks like the white belt adcc finale match
If there is someone going harder then I want to roll. I find a good stall position and wait out the clock.
My best rolls are my first rolls 😂😂 after 3 expect veryyyyyy passive guard pulling
Know this story well , had a guy very nice dude - says let’s go light and the during the roll he ends up in my guard and then proceeds to elbow smash my throat aggressively - didn’t get angry just absorbed the strike - pushes the elbow so it slid off and proceeded to reach around and wrap his arm around his own throat and lock him up - the fact his body was twisted like a pretzel well - It is what it is
Rolled with a guy who had 2 months off.. my gym is doing competition sparring at the moment so you can imagine the intensity. Said to my partner I'll roll light as your gas tank isn't where it should be.. the geezer tried to go supersain within the first minute of the roll (was a 9 minute round altogether). I just decided to hold him in my guard rather than smash him. I'll get my revenge when his fitness has improved (we are both new(ish) blue belts) 😂
Geezer 😂 Sounds like it's about to be a battle of the blue belts sooner or later, don't hurt the guy or get hurt yourself bc you wanna beat him so bad or teach him a lesson.
You cannot expect unknown people to roll light. You can make the roll lighter, by playing defensively and going to tighter positions (by attacking an ankle lock you kinda pushing him to go harder bro). But other than that, when you want a light roll you need to go to someone you trust.
I make sure I let people know they go too hard. Before the roll... They usually make it a point to go easy.
If someone tells me they want to roll light in my head I’m like “uh oh.”
I have a permanent reminder on my lip as to why you never "go light" with spazzy new guys lol
I came back to class not even a week after spraining my ankle, asked a guy (big aggressive white belt) to roll light and I got a can opener done on me not even 10 seconds later 🙃 haven't seen him in the gym in a long time anyway but I'm pretty sure I never rolled with him again after that lol
problem is sometimes you don't know who the psycho is... i had a guy break my shoulder because he's that guy. I was new to the gym and had no idea a higher belt would take it upon himself to do what he did.
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@@badxradxandy first of all the guy was really good... And did one of those "imma sub you 30 times in 30 seconds" things. So he did that and didn't let up which is fine, but I only mention it because he was a higher rank and was just kind of just going overly hard the whole time. This was like my 3rd class back after recovering from a minor injury and I was out for about 2 months and I was attempting at a calm roll. Stuff happened and he ended up standing and I was on the ground. He was acting like he wanted me to stand, and I just figured he wanted to work on some throws so I obliged and went to stand up and he then did an arm drag to a flying arm bar, but instead of actually applying the arm bar his hips went directly through the back of my shoulder, dislocating it for a moment and ripping part of my deltoid and part of my pec. He was WAY too good to do some dumb shit like that. I've been out 2 years because of it- I couldn't lift my arm for 6 months. I know we want to go hard and it's fun, but I think it's good to understand we are using each others bodies to train and this shit effects everything else in someone's life. Dude never even apologized.
Always roll light. The harder you roll, the more likely it is that you’re going to make a mistake and leave yourself vulnerable. If you want to be explosive make sure it is in a transition that calls for it. Use your technique properly and you’ll dominate your opponent without having to roll hard.
Every time I ask to roll light the person starts going harder and harder.
...and don't be offended if you're the one no one wants to roll with. Take it as something to learn from.
My coach says almost DAILY "Don't trust anybody saying let's roll light. It's BS. Stay away from that person. They are going to kill you." Hahaha... As a person who used to ask people to roll light, I now don't ask that. I do, however, carefully pick how many rounds I feel like that day, and who my partner is.
Well that's just means I will have to fuck up that guy won't it?
I hate when someone comes up to me, asks if I wanna roll light, and when we start rolling they go %100. It's like "bro! I thought YOU said to roll light!?"
My body is like an old Buick and I also drive an old Buick 🤣however my "old" 93 park ave ultra is supercharged and surprises many youngsters in Honda's 🤣
Fell prey to this recently. Stranger black belt came in, my shoulder's kinda busted and I asked to go light. He says cool. We're moving, everything's smooth and chill, he gives up his back. I'm not putting a choke on at all. He JAMS my foot into his hip and jerks down hard to get the ankle lock. Popped before I could even tap. Sigh...off the mat for a couple weeks for my sins.
That's messed up, if you didn't you should've let your head instructor know before he hurts anyone else.
Awesome video📹👏
The dude knew it was going to be a shitshow but he didn't have the confidence to deny the role. You get to roll with whoever you want. I get that there's an idea out there that you have to take on anybody that wants to go with you but that's just ego BS...
Light rolling will eventually go hard like who's suppose to win?its a battle of strength after all.
I only have 1 question where the fook is the mat enforcer 😂🙈
lets go light
Similar story, i got angry and wrenched a guy's arm with a power half Nelson, felt like shit afterwards
I love asking to roll light and just sitting there like a limp noodle playing only defense until they realize they’re trying too hard
Rolling light for me mean “no submissions” I’ve always just though it would be common sense if you got something just let it go and continue rolling like flowing
I'm about 40 iv started mma and bjj I've hurt my shoulder and elbows but I keep training but is starting to feel worse should I take a brake from training I don't want to slow down to much
they really mean "let me practice on you " while you roll light. It should be flow rolling. No applying subs. Civilized.
Been there many times…got sick of it actually
Yepp. Been there. Flow roll then once they pass your guard or took the back they went 100%.
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Dang man you beat me to it
who is bob?
What do I do if I want to submit a 'Bob question'?
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Someone teach me how to say no.