In bluelock, they cannot present the names and logos of real teams exactly the same, so the team Sae said he went to is actually Real Madrid, and when he saw how incredible the forwards there were, he gave up on his dream. According to a popular theory, Sae trusts Rin's potential to be the best striker and here he tells Rin that I will be the best midfielder and you can be the best striker. He offers that with my support we can be the best in the world, but Rin directly rejects Sae's offer. They may also have a sasuke-itachi style relationship. So Sae may have made Rin hate himself to give him a greater motivation to play.
@@lowserver2 In the official translation, they call the team "Real Madrid" in the sae interview in chapter 4. Then, in chapter 240, they call the team "Re Al". I couldn't check it because I don't have a membership, but sites like crunchyroll seem to call the team "Royale Madrid" due to copyright.
The theory is probably right. Funny thing is that in an interview, the author said that Sae doesn't really know why Rin hates him so much and he doesn't consider that they are in an argument. Sae thinks that Rin is just going through a fase and being annoying, and that's why Sae doesn't really mind it.
So i think you got slightly the wrong impression from Sae. He still wants to be the best player in the world, just as a midfielder now. He hasn't given up on his goal, he just changed his route, and he wants Rin to stay a striker instead of copying him
I disagree he wasn't pushing it onto his lil brother he told him to go After the dream of being the best striker by himself but rin instead wanted to quit football entirely just then sae said that he was annoying and told rin to not use him as a motive to play and an excuse to quit
I think Ron completely missed Sae’s point. Moving to Re Al at such a young age humbled Sae. He quickly realized that he wasn’t good enough to be a striker in a pool of world-class talent at the best club in the world. As a result, he shifted his dream to becoming the best midfielder in the world-a goal he sees as more tangible and attainable given his current abilities. Sae returned to Japan and shared this new goal with Rin, much to the latter’s disappointment. Reading between the lines, Sae is essentially acknowledging that Rin has greater potential than him to become the best striker in the world. However, Rin’s sole motivation for playing football was to pursue their shared dream of becoming strikers together. This loss of shared purpose leaves Rin disillusioned, prompting him to say, “I’ve got no reason to play soccer anymore.” Hearing such words from a player of Rin’s quality and potential would disappoint anyone, especially an older brother who is already grappling with the realization that he fell short of his original aspirations outside Japan. These dynamics are common in the football world and occur more often than one might think, particularly among players from countries outside of Europe.
@@MrKidori Headcanon is very different from reading between the lines, which is a skill developed through years of reading. If you think Muneyuki Kaneshiro would create a character whose motivation for being a complete asshole-especially toward a close family member, and especially in Blue Lock-is purely for the sake of it without any underlying motives, and if you dismiss Yusuke Nomura’s emphasis on Sae’s hurt eyes as Rin lashed out (highlighted in both the manga panel and its anime adaptation), then I’m sorry to say this, but it’s clear you’re quite a literal surface reader.
You would react to that but the U20 manager is a literal decorative manager as described by Ego or a “puppet coach” as that the manager nickname in the fan translated manga (also, it’s very obvious that the manager is spineless and “earless” as in he’s only listen to the higher ups and not the players opinions).
As an older brother, I absolutely understand how Sae felt and what he wanted for Rin. I just personally feel he was very harsh about it. Rin is stubborn, so maybe being harsh about it was the only way to convince Rin to be his own person and be the best, but still. The way he went about convincing Rin, by making himself the focus of Rin's hatred just doesn't sit right with me, and it makes me root for Rin.
christian pulisic best usa player said in a interview, that he was the best in his highschool but he did a camp in germany i believe and everyone was the best in their respective highschool all over the world, so pulisic was normal, the level increase.
guys you missed the point, Rin need to throw the dream with his brother in order to get strong , that is why Sae said that, this is Sasuke and Itachi vibe to be honest
Ayo about the ADHD stuff, one of the official tests is the DIVA 2.0 test which is what got me my diagnosis. See how you score on the scale and it might be worth looking into getting a diagnosis so you can get treatment(if you feel it's necessary)
Its rins fault sae said that. Sae came home clearly in a bad place and he said he'd still play with rin having sae be the best mid and rin best striker but rin decided to insult him call him lame and say he wasn't the brother he knew. Rin deserved that
Even so I agree that Rin said something bad and in that moment he was selfish, I think Sae crossed the line with his words, Rin was frustrated bcs he didn't heard of his brother and suddenly all changed, he couldn't accept it, so I understand why he said all of that, and ofc, Sae had every right to feel bad, but calling his little brother worthless and not needed in his life anymore? That's a lot tbh.
yeah I feel the same, I feel like the U20 Game was rushed like the first half, it would be more interesting to see the back storys of every character or atleast from Oliver Aiku, but this episode should be way the first episode of season 2, but its my favourite episode so far
what Sae said to Rin was so HARSH like no matter what happened in Spain, no matter what was the reason Sae was so wrong for what he did, those are such cruel words to say to your little brother who was so happy seeing you back and eagerly working so hard to fulfill his dreams with you and all, like even if Sae did that to motivate him still NO, that's not how you motivate someone, I get that sometimes you need to be cold or like act a little severe with someone in order to motivate them and get the best potential out of them but not to the point you hurt them so badly especially when that person is so close to you and truly loves and cherishes you a lot, I have a younger sister and yeah we fight like any other siblings. the thing is she is so sensitive so I always try to help her get stronger in order to face many issues that come across her, I may sometimes be a little cold with her and of course as any other human being I make mistakes and can be really cruel to her or hurt her since I might be controlled by my emotions or so angry at that brief moment however later on I feel so sorry and sick of myself for what I did and try to fix things before it's too late like I realize what I did was wrong because I know for sure my words may affect her in the future, so the way Sae acted really hurt and I am totally rooting for Rin, if just Sae talked to him after that but no he did not and ignored him which made it worse so it is totally valid for Rin's negative emotions to grow even more. I am reading the manga and still till this moment I am rooting for Rin to be the best striker (and another character we will meet in future seasons), I mean ofc I am rooting for Isagi and some other characters but basically those are my most beloved in Bluelock hahaha
This IS Rin's Arc man. As for Sae, he parallels Isagi, in the way that they both are SUPER LOGICAL and don't play much through INSTINCT. Sae realized the hard truth and gives up on being the World's Best Striker. Isagi doesn't
Yea probably Sae considered himself as a prodigy and after the journey in Spain, he realized that a prodigy could never beat genius strikers with natural gifted out there
The motivational push of sae to rin actually i can relate, in the US kids play academy most just for fun to fill the time i believe, in others like my country its a career choice, since elemantary/middle while the ultimate decision in high school age, like Rim Situation, you better to put energy in something else if you can't be the best(especially the standard the brothers set up for), so many competitors for limited "jobs" opening, at least Rin can be a model i think since he is tall for a Japanese 😂
In bluelock, they cannot present the names and logos of real teams exactly the same, so the team Sae said he went to is actually Real Madrid, and when he saw how incredible the forwards there were, he gave up on his dream. According to a popular theory, Sae trusts Rin's potential to be the best striker and here he tells Rin that I will be the best midfielder and you can be the best striker. He offers that with my support we can be the best in the world, but Rin directly rejects Sae's offer. They may also have a sasuke-itachi style relationship. So Sae may have made Rin hate himself to give him a greater motivation to play.
its weird, on all other languages and subs, it actually says real madrid, idk why english is the one without the real name
In the manga he said Real Madrid
@@lowserver2 In the official translation, they call the team "Real Madrid" in the sae interview in chapter 4. Then, in chapter 240, they call the team "Re Al". I couldn't check it because I don't have a membership, but sites like crunchyroll seem to call the team "Royale Madrid" due to copyright.
The theory is probably right. Funny thing is that in an interview, the author said that Sae doesn't really know why Rin hates him so much and he doesn't consider that they are in an argument. Sae thinks that Rin is just going through a fase and being annoying, and that's why Sae doesn't really mind it.
Rin just unmatured at this point
So i think you got slightly the wrong impression from Sae. He still wants to be the best player in the world, just as a midfielder now. He hasn't given up on his goal, he just changed his route, and he wants Rin to stay a striker instead of copying him
I disagree he wasn't pushing it onto his lil brother
he told him to go After the dream of being the best striker by himself
but rin instead wanted to quit football entirely
just then sae said that he was annoying and told rin to not use him as a motive to play and an excuse to quit
I think Ron completely missed Sae’s point. Moving to Re Al at such a young age humbled Sae. He quickly realized that he wasn’t good enough to be a striker in a pool of world-class talent at the best club in the world. As a result, he shifted his dream to becoming the best midfielder in the world-a goal he sees as more tangible and attainable given his current abilities.
Sae returned to Japan and shared this new goal with Rin, much to the latter’s disappointment. Reading between the lines, Sae is essentially acknowledging that Rin has greater potential than him to become the best striker in the world. However, Rin’s sole motivation for playing football was to pursue their shared dream of becoming strikers together. This loss of shared purpose leaves Rin disillusioned, prompting him to say, “I’ve got no reason to play soccer anymore.”
Hearing such words from a player of Rin’s quality and potential would disappoint anyone, especially an older brother who is already grappling with the realization that he fell short of his original aspirations outside Japan. These dynamics are common in the football world and occur more often than one might think, particularly among players from countries outside of Europe.
This is just your headcanon lmao, as of now all we know is that Sae lost and gave up, and then became an ass to Rin
@@MrKidori Headcanon is very different from reading between the lines, which is a skill developed through years of reading. If you think Muneyuki Kaneshiro would create a character whose motivation for being a complete asshole-especially toward a close family member, and especially in Blue Lock-is purely for the sake of it without any underlying motives, and if you dismiss Yusuke Nomura’s emphasis on Sae’s hurt eyes as Rin lashed out (highlighted in both the manga panel and its anime adaptation), then I’m sorry to say this, but it’s clear you’re quite a literal surface reader.
6:03 i would've been like "yo bro why tf u mad at me for!? U should be yelling at the Japan Team!! They the ones losing not me!"
You would react to that but the U20 manager is a literal decorative manager as described by Ego or a “puppet coach” as that the manager nickname in the fan translated manga (also, it’s very obvious that the manager is spineless and “earless” as in he’s only listen to the higher ups and not the players opinions).
😭😭😭😭facts💯💯
Sai & Rin got that Sauske & Itachi bond 😂😂
THE "Woah....age check" at 7:25 HAD ME DYING.....*cough* sae is18 *cough*
3:27 super relatable w/ Ron on the self diagnosis tho 😭😂
As an older brother, I absolutely understand how Sae felt and what he wanted for Rin. I just personally feel he was very harsh about it. Rin is stubborn, so maybe being harsh about it was the only way to convince Rin to be his own person and be the best, but still. The way he went about convincing Rin, by making himself the focus of Rin's hatred just doesn't sit right with me, and it makes me root for Rin.
Sae got humbled at real madrid 😂and rin is here trying to kill this man😂
Imagine Sae putting the two fingers on Rin’s head like itachi did to sasuke 😂😂😂😂
christian pulisic best usa player said in a interview, that he was the best in his highschool but he did a camp in germany i believe and everyone was the best in their respective highschool all over the world, so pulisic was normal, the level increase.
Itachi Sae is doing his thing...At least he didn't kill their parents 😅
I feel like he should have the way they raised them to be impolite brats deserve repercussions
guys you missed the point, Rin need to throw the dream with his brother in order to get strong , that is why Sae said that, this is Sasuke and Itachi vibe to be honest
haha Ron is so troll sometimes, and funny as always 😁
Ayo about the ADHD stuff, one of the official tests is the DIVA 2.0 test which is what got me my diagnosis. See how you score on the scale and it might be worth looking into getting a diagnosis so you can get treatment(if you feel it's necessary)
Its rins fault sae said that. Sae came home clearly in a bad place and he said he'd still play with rin having sae be the best mid and rin best striker but rin decided to insult him call him lame and say he wasn't the brother he knew. Rin deserved that
Even so I agree that Rin said something bad and in that moment he was selfish, I think Sae crossed the line with his words, Rin was frustrated bcs he didn't heard of his brother and suddenly all changed, he couldn't accept it, so I understand why he said all of that, and ofc, Sae had every right to feel bad, but calling his little brother worthless and not needed in his life anymore? That's a lot tbh.
Thats why you dont do things for others, do it for yourself.
yeah I feel the same, I feel like the U20 Game was rushed like the first half, it would be more interesting to see the back storys of every character or atleast from Oliver Aiku, but this episode should be way the first episode of season 2, but its my favourite episode so far
the intro aged perfectly :D maybe next episode ...
Itoshi Sae needs a movie like episode Nagi
So when you see a villain in the real world maybe he wasn’t always born a villain and maybe more then the eye can see
Itoshi sae character is so much similar to itachi uchiha
itachi = sae
sasuke = rin
sae plays for real madrid ig royale is equivalent to that for blue lock
then Itachi vs susuke now rin vs sae
rin should’ve been the mc
Sae gets crushed from cr7 and co....😂he saw its Impossible for him the get the best Striker in world
And all the la masia and the Brazilians having him second guess his life 😂😂😂
I think he was crushed by leonardo luna if you remember season 1 ep 24
Then probably you'll be more invested to Nagi and Reo if you watch episode Nagi!
Ron you kinda look like Sergio Ramos😂
You have already seen something like that in Naruto, no point in hating Sae
When are y’all going to continue the black clover reactions? Love y’all reactions btw. ❤
Noti!!!
keep going ! please watch COTE and tomodachi game too its good ..........
Have you forgotten black clover?😢
Yuhh
what Sae said to Rin was so HARSH like no matter what happened in Spain, no matter what was the reason Sae was so wrong for what he did, those are such cruel words to say to your little brother who was so happy seeing you back and eagerly working so hard to fulfill his dreams with you and all, like even if Sae did that to motivate him still NO, that's not how you motivate someone, I get that sometimes you need to be cold or like act a little severe with someone in order to motivate them and get the best potential out of them but not to the point you hurt them so badly especially when that person is so close to you and truly loves and cherishes you a lot, I have a younger sister and yeah we fight like any other siblings. the thing is she is so sensitive so I always try to help her get stronger in order to face many issues that come across her, I may sometimes be a little cold with her and of course as any other human being I make mistakes and can be really cruel to her or hurt her since I might be controlled by my emotions or so angry at that brief moment however later on I feel so sorry and sick of myself for what I did and try to fix things before it's too late like I realize what I did was wrong because I know for sure my words may affect her in the future, so the way Sae acted really hurt and I am totally rooting for Rin, if just Sae talked to him after that but no he did not and ignored him which made it worse so it is totally valid for Rin's negative emotions to grow even more. I am reading the manga and still till this moment I am rooting for Rin to be the best striker (and another character we will meet in future seasons), I mean ofc I am rooting for Isagi and some other characters but basically those are my most beloved in Bluelock hahaha
This IS Rin's Arc man.
As for Sae, he parallels Isagi, in the way that they both are SUPER LOGICAL and don't play much through INSTINCT.
Sae realized the hard truth and gives up on being the World's Best Striker.
Isagi doesn't
Yea probably Sae considered himself as a prodigy and after the journey in Spain, he realized that a prodigy could never beat genius strikers with natural gifted out there
Please subtitle in other languages🙏🙏🙏🙏
The motivational push of sae to rin actually i can relate, in the US kids play academy most just for fun to fill the time i believe, in others like my country its a career choice, since elemantary/middle while the ultimate decision in high school age, like Rim Situation, you better to put energy in something else if you can't be the best(especially the standard the brothers set up for), so many competitors for limited "jobs" opening, at least Rin can be a model i think since he is tall for a Japanese 😂
W Sae putting Rin in his place
U dont like Sae because u are simple minded and just an average dude
This episode made me dislike Sae a little
i think his cool
Just a little?
why? rin is spoiled
might need to rewatch
If you think Rin wasn’t being immature, idk man 💀