Mage: the Ascension - Introduction to the Lore

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025

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  • @ThePrimogen
    @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +87

    Some corrections that have sprung up! Man, I got sloppy with this one!
    I refer to the game as Mage: the Awakening in this video. Honestly I have no excuse.
    Max S Hardcastle also pointed out that Entropy-corrupted mages are not Nephandi, they are called Jhor. Nephandi are *worse*.
    TheKamar on Reddit helpfully pointed out that I got the date of the establishing of the Order of Reason wrong. And indeed I did, I misread 1325 as 1225 because I'm dumb. Sorry about that!

    • @lemonnomel9416
      @lemonnomel9416 4 года назад +15

      The Primogen Jhor is the state of Quiet an entropic Mage enters. Kind of like how Dynamic mages are afflicted with Madness before becoming Marauders and Stasis mages’ form of Quiet is Clarity. I wouldn’t worry too much about it, the Mage Lexicon sometimes stumbles over itself but it was a great video regardless

    • @Imrooniel
      @Imrooniel 4 года назад +9

      Are you going to put up more mage content in the future? I see that you're more of a V:TM channel, and I'm more of a M:As guy, so I was wondering whether I should sub :D (I don't mind the vampire content, on the contrary, but my main drive is mage, hence the question. Please don't see it as a demand or smth, make content that you enjoy).

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +6

      Thank you for the question, and don't worry I'm happy you want to see more! I will preliminarily be doing 3 videos, counting this one, as I intend to run this alongside the Onyx Path kickstarter for Technocracy: Reloaded, which is an overhaul of Technocracy rules and its own corebook, basically.
      But if the response remains as positive as it's been for this video, I'll definitely consider putting out more Mage content :D

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for your encouraging words! I'm actually ashamed because for this specifically I was lazy and looked at the 1d4chan explanation for Marauders, Nephandi and Threat Null. I cut Threat Null since it seemed very specific (and rarely mentioned in anything else I was reading), but I should have done my homework on the Nephandi better.

    • @Imrooniel
      @Imrooniel 4 года назад +4

      @@ThePrimogen think about it this way - more video opportunities!

  • @lemonnomel9416
    @lemonnomel9416 4 года назад +177

    I love Mage so much. It’s the only line that has true gray morality where no side is really the “right” one and whoever wins the Ascension War will make as many things horrible as they make things glorious.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +29

      I know right? In some regards, I absolutely side with the Technocracy. When I first encountered Mage, it was the 3rd edition and I really couldn't decide on any of the Traditions because they didn't appeal to me I was around 15 at the time), but all the Conventions catch my attention now. :P I think I'm just a Technocrat by heart, but then they're also conducting some pretty horrible shit so I agree with you, it really is a battle between different gray moralities.

    • @oe4744
      @oe4744 4 года назад +4

      Its facts that you got the best comments under WoD related videos. Ur profile pic alone cracks me up everytime

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 2 года назад +4

      The line between light and dark becomes more defined if you separate parts of the union from one another. The Void Engineers are unambiguously good along with the Projenitors, Iteration X is falling to the Weaver, the Syndicate works with fucking Pentex, etc.

    • @bruceottenberg373
      @bruceottenberg373 Год назад +1

      The Nephandi are definitely evil, and written as such, but the Marauders, Trads and Tech are very much shades of grey.

  • @FelineElaj
    @FelineElaj 4 года назад +159

    Just remember, fellas: Mage is just a game.
    Sincerely, your local representative of the Technocratic Union.

    • @ishaaqmartin3564
      @ishaaqmartin3564 Год назад +3

      As a member of the Free Council
      I have no choice but to dislike this blatant piece of paradigmal propaganda.

  • @simonmacomber7466
    @simonmacomber7466 4 года назад +83

    I've always felt that Mage was the best of the Classic World of Darkness. It has always been my favorite. I'd love to see more videos on this game line.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +7

      It's definitely one of my favorites now! And there'll be at least another two videos!

    • @KuLaydMahn
      @KuLaydMahn 4 года назад +2

      It was my personal favorite too but I never managed to get a game going in my group. I think they were intimidated by the daunting magic system. The open-endedness of creating your own Effects based on your character's knowledge of the spheres is a double edged sword: there's so much freedom and potential but it's also more mentally demanding.

  • @kaoscoded
    @kaoscoded 4 года назад +16

    i will never forget the first day i laid hands on the hard cover book...i flipped thru the first several pages and became enthralled with it...i immediately purchased it and dove straight into it's lore and factions...i was completely blown away and as i type this i am looking over lovingly at my first and second edition copies that sit on my shelf...unfortunately i was surrounded by minds unable to grasp it's implications and meaning so it had remained a private treasure...then i came across this vid and jumped in to hear what you had to say...and you nailed it bro...can't wait for more vids....peace

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +2

      So happy to hear about your memories with this game, and that I was able capture some of its amazing spark. I really love Mage too, it's an amazing setting!

  • @zanchito
    @zanchito 4 года назад +19

    I have been looking forward to Mage lore for a long time! Thank you!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      Thank you! There's more to come!

  • @sebastianroundtree1550
    @sebastianroundtree1550 4 года назад +23

    Definitely a great introduction to Mage! I hope that you decide to make faction videos lore videos consistently for Mage. There's so many Traditions and so many different ideas to explore in Mage that it should be a lot of great content!
    I hope you can do a video about the Cult of Ecstasy soon. One of their founders was instrumental in gathering the nine traditions and making an alliance during the Sorcerer's Crusade era, so I feel like they're one of the traditions it would make sense to start with.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      My clan videos have so far been voted on by my Patrons but I think I'll start throwing in Tribes and Traditions/Covenants soon as well!

  • @TheFalcoDude
    @TheFalcoDude 4 года назад +11

    Yes! I know I'm late to the party but god was I waiting for this one.
    Mage has a special place in my heart and I loved your introduction. Nicely done once more.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      I'm so happy you enjoyed it! :D

  • @avrahamishshalom1799
    @avrahamishshalom1799 4 года назад +12

    Subscriber earned - I've only recently discovered Mage: The Ascension and now I'm desperately trying to find people to play with. Thank you so much for this intro video, I hope there will be more Mage lore videos!!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy it! Yeah Mage can be difficult to find other people to play with! Storytell for, no problem! I know botht he oWoD Discords and the r/lfg might be worth to look.

  • @harrisonwyckoff9083
    @harrisonwyckoff9083 4 года назад +19

    This is so helpful. I’ve been working on learning the system and lore, and this has sped up my process.

  • @Duskwalker68
    @Duskwalker68 4 года назад +6

    Thank you for covering Mage! Great video as always!

  • @psychopompous1695
    @psychopompous1695 4 года назад +4

    I've been hoping for a video like this. Thank you!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      Hope you enjoyed it! :D

    • @psychopompous1695
      @psychopompous1695 4 года назад

      @@ThePrimogen I did. It's my favorite game in the franchise.

  • @mr.flibble3190
    @mr.flibble3190 4 года назад +5

    My only problem with this explanation is that you posted it right *after* I gave out Mage introduction material to a group of prospective players!
    Seriously, this is spot-on and brilliantly succinct.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      Aw man, I'm so sorry! X( But I'm really glad you enjoyed it! I hope you'll have a great chronicle!

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 4 года назад

      @@ThePrimogen My players opted for Changeling instead, for now. They're definitely into Mage, but they felt like they needed more escapism for the time being.

  • @He-Who-Died
    @He-Who-Died Год назад +4

    Why does this game seem to have real life spiritual beliefs as it's lore?
    I love it.

  • @gamrr_NERD
    @gamrr_NERD 8 месяцев назад +1

    I could see a shy librarian being an interesting character concept for an Order of Hermes mage. They awakened after reading an entire book of magical mathematics and understanding all of it without training.

  • @hellenohello6604
    @hellenohello6604 4 года назад +6

    I loved my Mage the Ascension book as a teenager. I didn't have anyone to play it with but i loved the lore.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +4

      Yeah it was the Holy Grail of RPGs for me, utterly incomprehensible (to my dumb brain) but awesome.

    • @hellenohello6604
      @hellenohello6604 4 года назад

      I find Mage even more relevant as a philosophy now days with the SIMS and Matrix reality theories becoming discussed regularly.

    • @hellenohello6604
      @hellenohello6604 4 года назад

      I know the Art in these books is astounding, I remember using color pencils to color them before adult coloring was a thing. My P.E. coach in school saw me coloring once before health class and flipped through the book finding a illustration of a built, shaved headed, cyborg guy and requested to color it. I let him color it one of the days we had a health film to watch. So i would say that in the mid 1990's it was cool enough that I didn't get in trouble for carrying it around school, which is amazing considering how strict that school could be.

  • @cookkies_
    @cookkies_ 3 года назад +3

    this is very well written and told in a really entertaining way, and definitely got me interested in this world, very nice video

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! That's a huge compliment and I really appreciate it

  • @TamaraBloodhoof
    @TamaraBloodhoof 3 года назад +1

    Sooooo...I've been into WoD for a while, and been looking into the stories and the mythos to try and understand it all. I found your channel while looking for Exalted and, well...You have a new subscriber.
    Thank you very much for these introduction videos, they have seriously helped me understand so much more than I thought possible in just a small bit of time, and I hope to travel with you through all of your videos from here on!

  • @oversoul7
    @oversoul7 4 года назад +3

    So very exited for this!!! Thank you for all you do. 💗🙏🏽🧘🏽‍♂️🌎

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy it, I do my best!

  • @buckveazey3369
    @buckveazey3369 4 года назад +18

    This was my favorite second edition product and then when revised came out they just turned them into wet napkins

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +3

      Yeah I have heard a lot of things about Revised Edition. Back when I first encountered Mage, I read Revised (I was 15 or so at the time) and while I liked the setting, I don't think I found a single one of the Traditions interesting. Now I kind of know why :P

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 4 года назад

      @@ThePrimogen I'd say of Revised that it did a nice job continuing the exploration of the real-world diversity of magickal cultures that Brucato started. Maybe it even improved on that in some ways. Some of the metaplot developments weren't even so bad in and of themselves. What hurt it, to my mind, was the fact that the Revised changes were imposed from outside, based on the perceptions of the marketing people, rather than by the internal logic of setting or story.

  • @marcusbrown5781
    @marcusbrown5781 4 года назад +12

    like how slenderman "became real"
    so many people thought he was real and he became "real"

  • @RiotKurhein
    @RiotKurhein 2 года назад +3

    Well I see where the idea of achieving "CHIM" in The Elder Scrolls came from.
    CHIM is the final stage of the Psijic Endeavor, which can only be achieved by viewing the Tower, which encompasses the universe, while keeping one's own individuality in its presence.[UL 5] Failing to keep one's individuality in the presence of the Tower will result in the erasure of its viewer from the universe, an occurrence known as a "Zero Sum."[UL 6] Once CHIM is achieved, people experience a state in which time is bent both inward and outward into "a shape that is always new" as well as an incomprehensible sense of the Godhead. One who achieves CHIM is able to observe the Tower without fear and reside within it.[UL 2]

  • @RNthenightingale
    @RNthenightingale Год назад +1

    I am so glad to find out you’re not one of those people who think the earth is flat and is antivac 🤣🤣🤣. Love your content!!! Now, I love it even more!

  • @MrNoodle986
    @MrNoodle986 4 года назад +5

    Yeboi! Love mage, recently started on it my storyteller is pretty amazing!
    Looking forward to the series if you are doing one
    (And don't worry I make the mage the awakening mistake a LOT... They are both MTA haha)

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      :D I'm glad!
      Initially I will be doing three videos (counting this one) to talk about Mage as I plan to run these alongside The Onyx Path's Kickstarter for the Technocracy: Reloaded book that's running right now.
      But if the response continues to be as positive as it's been so far, I wouldn't mind deep-diving even more into Mage :D

    • @MrNoodle986
      @MrNoodle986 4 года назад

      @@ThePrimogen hell yeah!

  • @Onionkid99
    @Onionkid99 4 года назад +51

    It's extremely difficult to distill Mage down into a 15 minute video... but you did it! How many dots do you have in the Time sphere?
    I can't help but wonder what Mage 5th edition will be like. We Know V5 has the hunger dice and it's reasonable to assume Werewolf 5 will have rage dice. Will Mage 5 have paradox dice? Will we roll a "paradox check" instead of a rouse check? And will Paradox Interactive be ok with the "bad" thing in the game sharing their name?

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +3

      Thank you! Yeah it was a bit of a struggle getting as much in as I managed, and I had to cut some corners, but I'm glad I managed to give enough space to explaining magic, which I think is the hardest part of this setting to be honest.
      M5 will definitely be interesting; I think the fact that we live in a time of "Fake News" is going to play big into it; I mean, the world Kojima predicted in MGS2 is already here, but worse. :P

    • @KuLaydMahn
      @KuLaydMahn 4 года назад +2

      Do we have confirmation of M5 coming out? I thought I saw something about it awhile a back but the last couple times I looked I came up blank.

  • @margisama
    @margisama 4 года назад +7

    Mage is my third favorite after VTM, and WTA. I know it would be a huge undertaking in terms of having to adapt it, but I'd love a mage single-player computer RPG in the lines of VTMB. Same with WTA (which would probably be far easier to adapt. I know we're getting Earthblood as a WTA game...but I prefer games where you can create your own character).

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      Agreed wholeheartedly. I think a Mage game would be awesome, and they did release a Visual Novel-esque mobile game a while back which I enjoyed!

  • @diamondmetal3062
    @diamondmetal3062 2 года назад +1

    Of all the game lines in WoD, Mage probably intrigues me the most. I’ve not played a proper game yet, but I’ve flipped through the lore and it sounds bloody insane. Currently I’ve got no time on my hands to start up a game, but with people leaving DnD in droves and my LGS willing to help me find a group, I’m hoping it’s not gonna be as hard as I expected

  • @SaintWiccan
    @SaintWiccan 4 года назад +15

    This is fantastic! I’m really new to the world of darkness and I picked up VTM V5 books and getting into those, but I’m a huge fan of Mage and Werewolf lore and the alike. Do you think we will be getting newer source books for these too or should I try to get my hands on the old ones? Sorry to be a bother.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +4

      I'm glad you enjoyed it, thank you for stopping by!
      Right now there is a Kickstarter for Technocracy: Reloaded, which I believe will be the essential sourcebook to playing Technocrats. I think it's highly unlikely there will be a 5th edition of Mage anytime soon, Werewolf is scheduled for 2021 after all, so I think it's a safe bet to go for the M20 books. I have heard mixed things about Revised, 2nd edition seems very popular, but I think most anything after 1st edition keep things roughly the same; 1st edition didn't paint the Technocracy in a very positive light at all.

  • @simplerole-play9176
    @simplerole-play9176 4 года назад +11

    Yeah mage

  • @BiscuitGirl9154
    @BiscuitGirl9154 3 года назад

    I got Mage 20th anniversary edition for free last year, just because it was free, & have only now started to get into it because I have possible players. This helped me so much!

  • @darthjoel6357
    @darthjoel6357 4 года назад +7

    I hope you do Hunter soon! 😊

    • @darthjoel6357
      @darthjoel6357 4 года назад +2

      GM Steelhaven I got introduced to WOD reading the Hunter the reckoning novels and the video games on original Xbox. The imbued.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +2

      Hunter is definitely in the cards, ultimately I hope to cover all World of Darkness splats :D

  • @donelkingii3738
    @donelkingii3738 2 года назад

    Thank you for making video.

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
    @PANCAKEMINEZZ Год назад

    3:00 Basically reality equivalent of a movie nerd calling out verisimilitude, but instead of a bad Rotten Tomatoes score, the character that breaks reality is destroyed.

  • @overlordgames1394
    @overlordgames1394 Месяц назад

    Force, Time and Matter can easly pulverize a vampire in one turn!

  • @perrionhurd7509
    @perrionhurd7509 4 года назад +2

    Good stuff. 👍🏾

  • @christiandelcarmen1278
    @christiandelcarmen1278 4 года назад +1

    This honestly sounds like the Nasuverse if Solomon hadn't set up the Foundations of Magecraft...

    • @darthkai3621
      @darthkai3621 2 года назад

      Thank goodness for Solomon then!😮‍💨

  • @garyfindlay8052
    @garyfindlay8052 3 года назад +3

    Morpheus is a maurader. Now go watch the matrix again for true gnosis.

  • @DrabeLord
    @DrabeLord 3 года назад

    thx this makes a lot of sense

  • @13shadowwolf
    @13shadowwolf Год назад

    We exist as forgotten fragments of the Sleeping Mind. This is all a Dream-State of the Infinite Mind, as long as we do not disturb the Dream too much, we can bend the rules a little at a time.
    Create a Paradox too quickly, and the Sleeping Mind stirs, and then "corrects" the Mistaken Thought, the Thought Disappears, usually with the Mage, in a twisting of Reality back to the Dream.
    If the Sleeping Mind is ever fully Woken, our Reality, becomes whatever IT decides to Think about; and WE live as NPC's in the Mind of that which is Beyond our ability to understand.

  • @dustinbloominger6707
    @dustinbloominger6707 4 года назад +4

    Meraders are not immune to Paradox they have a world view that is wrong, one canon Merader thinks the 90s are the 20s when ever he sees things that prove he is not in the 20s he gains paradox, whenever a Merader gains enough paradox they get pushed into the umbra and can't return to earth until they burn it off

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад

      Thanks for the heads up and clarification! Sorry for the late reply!

  • @anthonyfrias5533
    @anthonyfrias5533 2 года назад

    Do hunter,mage,vampire the masquerade and werewolf apocalypse and changeling all take place in a world of darkness

  • @teyanuputorti7927
    @teyanuputorti7927 3 года назад

    cool lore mage ascension has.

  • @99onone50
    @99onone50 3 года назад +3

    mage is literally (if humans could freely use the WAAAGH)

  • @rzu1474
    @rzu1474 2 года назад

    Wait.
    So.
    Magic here is like the orcs from 40k?
    If we all believe something works it does?

  • @anthonyfrias5533
    @anthonyfrias5533 2 года назад

    Oh the world of rpg is so exciting

  • @simplerole-play9176
    @simplerole-play9176 4 года назад +2

    Very interested... was that you said from the actual book

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +2

      The vast majority of what you see in my videos are words I have written myself, based on information I have found in the books. I write my own scripts, but I will occasionally quote things from the books, often specific statements or writings in-lore.

    • @simplerole-play9176
      @simplerole-play9176 4 года назад

      The Primogen ohh so will you be reding form the book

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      @@simplerole-play9176 Unfortunately that won't happen for purely legal reasons. I'm pretty sure my videos would get taken down if I did. :)

    • @simplerole-play9176
      @simplerole-play9176 4 года назад

      The Primogen ohh ~ so you cannot read out the lore form the book that is sad - like what can you read as I see video showing how to make characters on RUclips and talks about the mage school and a little bit about they lore

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      @@simplerole-play9176 I can read the books and retell what is in them in my own way. It is what I do, but I will always have to chose what to include and what not to. I don't want to put the whole book and the rules up online because that would undermine the sales of the game and I don't want to hurt a company that is making such an awesome game.

  • @anyoneatall3488
    @anyoneatall3488 3 года назад

    3:59 no, not awakening, ascension

  • @Welther47
    @Welther47 2 года назад

    1:19 vaccines are effective!

  • @pasozytspoleczny
    @pasozytspoleczny 3 года назад

    Boring!

  • @wendigowithaninternetconne9594
    @wendigowithaninternetconne9594 4 года назад +2

    Vampire? Got it undead illuminati and caine. Changeling? Fairytales and a more d&d approach. Mage??????? MAGE?? I hear people talking like they took philosophy 3 at harvard when talking about this game lol

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +3

      And that's just the way we like it!