I really like your videos. I passed my IFR check ride in 1992 in a bonanza v35 and that time the real IFR was only Cor and Adf... Knowing to navigate that is giving you a real sense of confidence. I really think despite GPS and G1000, every pilot should be confident on VOR navigation. Awesome video
I watched your other video May 24, 2012 and you looked so young. The material was consistent and helpful, thank you for posting this information, very helpful!!
So- thanks so much sir, I understand this post is 3yrs nd plus but anyways it’s still very helpful to me. I have this issues In navigation with calculations of timings. Could you please help with the best way to overcome this challenge sir? Grateful
Your videos have been extremely helpful for my instrument training! To the point that I now search on youtube my question followed by "mzeroa" to see if you've posted a video about that particular topic haha thank you!!
That is great that we are able to help you. We have over 11.2 hours of new Instrument videos that are part of online ground school. You should have a look at what we over. Our new site will be launching soon.
When intercepting a VOR radial using an HSI, I like to keep the end of the needle pointed at the lubber's line. You have to fine tune it for wind, but it's a good first approximation.
Thank you. Before watching this video, I have no ideal what is VOR but after this video....I still have no ideal what is it. :)) not because of you. Your doing a great job, it’s about my English understanding issue. In my mother language, the document about is not so much so just can find the infor in English.
This is making me doubt something I was taught 15 years ago, but weren't you on the 090 inbound radial, not the 270 outbound? I mean, yes, your indicator will track it if you set the course to 270 while east of the VOR, but you'd still be flying _in_ to the VOR station on the 090 radial regardless of what you set your indicator to track. Isn't it physically impossible to be on the 270 radial, inbound or outbound, if you're east of the station? Fortunately, the principles still work and so the things taught here are just as valuable as they're supposed to be :)
You are absolutely right. Some instructors teach to set the outbound course to make the needle a command instrument (which is to say always turn toward the needle) The original intent of the VOR was to use it as a quadrature instrument. The SHI indicator did not get it to and from nomenclature until later. In summary, there are TWO methods on how to use the VOR but the command method seems to be far more common and far more confusing.
I am wondering why on the simulator that supposed HSI does not have the triangles that always point to the station the way a normal HSI instrument does. This way you are able to see the location of where the station actually is. It does not say to and from it just always flipped right side up or upside down depending on where the station is. I would also like to see a demonstration how to reach a station and then track outbound towards another station while you are on auto pilot. On GPS navigation it will automatically change the OBS when it reaches the next leg of the flight plan. The VOR to VOR does not so you have to be on top of manually switching your courses. This is the way I am understanding how the G 3000 works. The hardest thing about this set up and if it really is like this in a G 1000 or G3000, is without using two VOR displays at the same time, like the old steamer gauges, it is hard to fly to intersections or towards other inbound radials. The only way around this is to set your auto pilot on heading while you mess around with a single VOR or set up VOR #2 then switch over and press the NAV button.
Hello! Thanks for watching. Regarding the autopilot, it would depend on the specific system that you have. Some have a function that allow it to track tuned VORs. Some, however, do not. If the autopilot has heading tracking, you can use that while manually tuning the VOR and programing the autopilot to fly a specific heading that gets you to/from the station as appropriate. As always consult a flight instructor regarding the specific aircraft you are flying. Feel free to reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com if you have any more questions. Fly safe!
Thanks. More and more I’m seeing NOTAMS for VOR not monitored, or ILS LOC/GLIDEPATH not monitored. Guess it doesn’t matter VFR but could present a problem for approaches
Great to hear! Good luck in your instrument training! If you need any help throughout your training please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com! Thanks and fly safe!
Jason: I was taught that radials always eminate outward from a station. So when you say "tracking the 270 radial inbound" is not correct to say "tracking the 90 radial in bound"?
Hello! VORs can be tricky! Please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com with your question and we can have CFI help you in detail! Thanks for watching!
Good Video. The demo seems a bit confusing and a bit too busy after you start to jump from PFD to ipod and back. When I was learning VOR Navigation 25 years ago- the key point to remember is you are flying on Radial x FROM a VOR. You never fly on RADIA x TO VOR because Radials originates FROM a VOR and not TO a VOR. If student remember this basic point, VOR will be easy to understand. Example: Flying from west to east, You're flying on Radial 270 FROM VOR ABC but your heading is 090. When you pass the VOR you'll be on the 090 Radial your Heading remains 090, you don't say you are on the 270 Radial anymore.
If you have a bearing pointer on your HSI, if the head of the bearing pointer is between the course and the intercept heading you will reach the radial before the station. If the head of the bearing pointer is not between you will pass the station and intercept the outbound course. Rember that the head of the bearing pointer always falls.
Hello! You can track a VOR in both VFR/IFR. In IFR you can get more uses out of a VOR such as approaches, airways, etc. In VFR usually you just track to/from a VOR and use it as a checkpoint for a XC flight. I hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
It depends on if it is a high, low, or terminal VOR. Also the chart supplement will list areas of the VOR which have unreliable signal. In general, the service volume of a terminal VOR is good out to 25nm. A low is good out to 40nm. A High VOR varies from 40/100/130/100nm depending on altitude.
Hi Jason, I'm a bit confused. If ATC gives the instruction to 'intercept 270 radial outbound' and you intercept the 90 radial inbound , are you going to be in for a bit of a "lecture". If I get the instruction from ATC to 'intercept the 270 radial'...which is outbound relative to my position, I would plot a course to intercept the 270 radial west of the VOR, not the inbound 90 radial. Am I making sense?
I am unfortunately not Jason but I might be able to help. If ATC gives you the instruction “intercept the 270 radial outbound,” they are asking you to fly west, away from the station. Flying the 090 radial inbound would be flying East- so I would expect a lecture. However, I have seen them ask pilots who are to the west of the VOR, to intercept the 270 radial and track it to the station. In that case you would set the course selector on R-090 and track that towards the station. Once you center the needle, you know that you are flying on R-270.
@@millskatherinekm "Flying he 090 radial inbound would be flying East"? If you agree that radials always emanate outward from a station, would you not be flying West?
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Man, how I wish you were my instructor. You're awesome!
Thanks for the support!
I really like your videos.
I passed my IFR check ride in 1992 in a bonanza v35 and that time the real IFR was only Cor and Adf... Knowing to navigate that is giving you a real sense of confidence. I really think despite GPS and G1000, every pilot should be confident on VOR navigation. Awesome video
VOR
“Highway on-ramp”, great analogy!
I watched your other video May 24, 2012 and you looked so young. The material was consistent and helpful, thank you for posting this information, very helpful!!
Glad it was helpful!
So- thanks so much sir, I understand this post is 3yrs nd plus but anyways it’s still very helpful to me. I have this issues In navigation with calculations of timings. Could you please help with the best way to overcome this challenge sir? Grateful
Gonna use this with my students. Great stuff.
Your videos have been extremely helpful for my instrument training! To the point that I now search on youtube my question followed by "mzeroa" to see if you've posted a video about that particular topic haha thank you!!
That is great that we are able to help you. We have over 11.2 hours of new Instrument videos that are part of online ground school. You should have a look at what we over. Our new site will be launching soon.
Amazing Explanation !!
Please do some DME ARC videos , because it's very conffusing.
They way You teach is simple but effective .
Kind Regards !!
Great video and how do you connect the Ipad to the Flight sim.
Great practical Tutorial on VOR... Many thanks...
When intercepting a VOR radial using an HSI, I like to keep the end of the needle pointed at the lubber's line. You have to fine tune it for wind, but it's a good first approximation.
Thank you. Before watching this video, I have no ideal what is VOR but after this video....I still have no ideal what is it. :)) not because of you. Your doing a great job, it’s about my English understanding issue. In my mother language, the document about is not so much so just can find the infor in English.
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Adam!
This is making me doubt something I was taught 15 years ago, but weren't you on the 090 inbound radial, not the 270 outbound? I mean, yes, your indicator will track it if you set the course to 270 while east of the VOR, but you'd still be flying _in_ to the VOR station on the 090 radial regardless of what you set your indicator to track. Isn't it physically impossible to be on the 270 radial, inbound or outbound, if you're east of the station? Fortunately, the principles still work and so the things taught here are just as valuable as they're supposed to be :)
You are absolutely right. Some instructors teach to set the outbound course to make the needle a command instrument (which is to say always turn toward the needle) The original intent of the VOR was to use it as a quadrature instrument. The SHI indicator did not get it to and from nomenclature until later. In summary, there are TWO methods on how to use the VOR but the command method seems to be far more common and far more confusing.
Love it
Very cool 👍🏼 you’re a blessing.
Thanks for the kind words, Fernando!
Took my Written today - prob should have watched this a few times...but not the same with HSI vs steam...mental barrier. Oh well...
Thanks!
I am wondering why on the simulator that supposed HSI does not have the triangles that always point to the station the way a normal HSI instrument does. This way you are able to see the location of where the station actually is. It does not say to and from it just always flipped right side up or upside down depending on where the station is. I would also like to see a demonstration how to reach a station and then track outbound towards another station while you are on auto pilot. On GPS navigation it will automatically change the OBS when it reaches the next leg of the flight plan. The VOR to VOR does not so you have to be on top of manually switching your courses. This is the way I am understanding how the G 3000 works. The hardest thing about this set up and if it really is like this in a G 1000 or G3000, is without using two VOR displays at the same time, like the old steamer gauges, it is hard to fly to intersections or towards other inbound radials. The only way around this is to set your auto pilot on heading while you mess around with a single VOR or set up VOR #2 then switch over and press the NAV button.
Hello! Thanks for watching. Regarding the autopilot, it would depend on the specific system that you have. Some have a function that allow it to track tuned VORs. Some, however, do not. If the autopilot has heading tracking, you can use that while manually tuning the VOR and programing the autopilot to fly a specific heading that gets you to/from the station as appropriate. As always consult a flight instructor regarding the specific aircraft you are flying. Feel free to reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com if you have any more questions. Fly safe!
VOR navigation is not only easy, its alot more enjoyable than gps navigation.
Thanks. More and more I’m seeing NOTAMS for VOR not monitored, or ILS LOC/GLIDEPATH not monitored. Guess it doesn’t matter VFR but could present a problem for approaches
Awesome as always. Thanks
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching, Marites!
Thanks Jason, another great video & terrific explanation of VOR's! just started working towards my instrument rating and this was a great refresher!
Great to hear! Good luck in your instrument training! If you need any help throughout your training please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com! Thanks and fly safe!
This video is great!
On the intercept angle when your airplane is to the right, why does the needle track left? Is it because your left of 270degrees?
Jason:
I was taught that radials always eminate outward from a station. So when you say "tracking the 270 radial inbound" is not correct to say "tracking the 90 radial in bound"?
Hello! VORs can be tricky! Please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com with your question and we can have CFI help you in detail! Thanks for watching!
Thank youu so much!!
Thank You
wonderful
Thank you! Cheers!
Good Video. The demo seems a bit confusing and a bit too busy after you start to jump from PFD to ipod and back. When I was learning VOR Navigation 25 years ago- the key point to remember is you are flying on Radial x FROM a VOR. You never fly on RADIA x TO VOR because Radials originates FROM a VOR and not TO a VOR. If student remember this basic point, VOR will be easy to understand. Example: Flying from west to east, You're flying on Radial 270 FROM VOR ABC but your heading is 090. When you pass the VOR you'll be on the 090 Radial your Heading remains 090, you don't say you are on the 270 Radial anymore.
Thanks for the feedback, Shyam! Fly safe!
how to determine if the aircraft will cross its raadial before or after station passage
If you have a bearing pointer on your HSI, if the head of the bearing pointer is between the course and the intercept heading you will reach the radial before the station. If the head of the bearing pointer is not between you will pass the station and intercept the outbound course. Rember that the head of the bearing pointer always falls.
“Crazy flying skills” 🤣🤣🤣 Tks Jason, great explanation! Safe flights 🙏🏼
Glad you enjoyed the video!
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VOR is IFR or VFR or both? As a non pilot I ask.
Hello! You can track a VOR in both VFR/IFR. In IFR you can get more uses out of a VOR such as approaches, airways, etc. In VFR usually you just track to/from a VOR and use it as a checkpoint for a XC flight. I hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
How far from VOR station is the signal reliable?
It depends on if it is a high, low, or terminal VOR. Also the chart supplement will list areas of the VOR which have unreliable signal. In general, the service volume of a terminal VOR is good out to 25nm. A low is good out to 40nm. A High VOR varies from 40/100/130/100nm depending on altitude.
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Got a typo in the video description. Should say “Easy” not “East”.
You mean the other way around. Should be "Easy" and not "East". ;-)
If you want to navigate west, that's another video. 😉
Robert Alexander corrected me lol.
Hi Jason, I'm a bit confused. If ATC gives the instruction to 'intercept 270 radial outbound' and you intercept the 90 radial inbound , are you going to be in for a bit of a "lecture". If I get the instruction from ATC to 'intercept the 270 radial'...which is outbound relative to my position, I would plot a course to intercept the 270 radial west of the VOR, not the inbound 90 radial. Am I making sense?
I am unfortunately not Jason but I might be able to help. If ATC gives you the instruction “intercept the 270 radial outbound,” they are asking you to fly west, away from the station. Flying the 090 radial inbound would be flying East- so I would expect a lecture. However, I have seen them ask pilots who are to the west of the VOR, to intercept the 270 radial and track it to the station. In that case you would set the course selector on R-090 and track that towards the station. Once you center the needle, you know that you are flying on R-270.
@@millskatherinekm "Flying he 090 radial inbound would be flying East"? If you agree that radials always emanate outward from a station, would you not be flying
West?
I actually prefer the ILS to the LPV.
VOR/GPS -- makes no difference. VOR more reliable than GPS, however
2 week free trail is over? 😭
It's really easy with an HSI. The concepts should be taught using a standard CDI.
can i have cpl PDF book ?
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It's not that confusing until the idea of reverse sensing comes in. Then I start getting confused :(
Mmmm
Whole lot of nothing
I really wish that the FAA would update the entire VOR/HSI materials. I have yet to see the usual players really making any sense.