Ep. 71: How to use a VOR in an Airplane | Flying Navigation

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @maxcorder2211
    @maxcorder2211 4 года назад +52

    As a student pilot in the Air Force, I was on my instrument check ride in the T-37, a small twin engine jet with side by side seating. I had a hood on that obstructed my exterior vision. My instructor told me to proceed to a particular airport. I looked up the information, dialed in the frequency and set up my VOR to fly to the destination (just as illustrated in the video). As I overflew the airport (a From indication on the VOR) the instructor told me to remove the hood and look out. I had overflown the wrong airport. What happened? There were two different airports a few miles apart. The VOR frequencies were one click of the dial different. I had mis-dialed the frequency when setting up. What had I failed to do? The rule is “tune and identify”, and you identify by listening to the airport Morse Code identifier. So that’s why the military teaches Morse Code to pilots. An age-old system in modern airplanes. I failed the check ride and passed the re-check. And learned a lesson that it’s the little things that can bite you.

  • @midknight_flight2902
    @midknight_flight2902 5 лет назад +34

    Finally, a correct explanation with correct terminology.

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    • @philm
      @philm 3 года назад +1

      My thoughts exactly getting tired of those other self appointed experts not even knowing that it's called a CDI

  • @richardgraham65
    @richardgraham65 7 лет назад +173

    I have struggled getting my head around VOR navigation, I have watched hour after hour of RUclips videos of people supposedly explaining how easy it is, within 5 minutes of watching your video, it became clear in a way that not one of the other "Pilots" were able to communicate. Thank you for this excellent and UNDERSTANDABLE explanation of VOR navigation, you accomplished in 5 minutes what others could not do in 5 hours!

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 лет назад +11

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    • @trinityclassiccars
      @trinityclassiccars 6 лет назад +2

      Very helpful but enough with the 'go ahead' every second breath please!!!!

    • @j3koenig
      @j3koenig 6 лет назад +4

      I second that. This is the most useful explanation of vors I've come across. Thank you for putting this together

    • @charlesbecker3470
      @charlesbecker3470 5 лет назад +2

      This was the best VOR video I have seen also, there are some out there that claim they have the "easiest" way to learn VOR, all they do is confuse you.

    • @aviator6547
      @aviator6547 5 лет назад +1

      preplaned comments

  • @natthawatketsupha4846
    @natthawatketsupha4846 5 лет назад +47

    Your VOR navigation explanation is excellent and UNDERSTANDABLE, it makes my study a lot easier, Thank you!

  • @truckproam.2218
    @truckproam.2218 6 лет назад +6

    It’s crazy to be struggling with something one minute and have it all make prefect sense the next. There’s nothing like the feeling of that “click” in your brain when you finally understand something you’ve struggled with for so long. Thanks bro.

  • @redicanprime1181
    @redicanprime1181 3 года назад +2

    I gotta rinse and repeat this to get that muscle memory. Thanks!

  • @coolranchluke
    @coolranchluke 2 года назад +1

    Single most useful VOR explanation I've ever seen. THANK YOU

  • @LalaRanj1
    @LalaRanj1 4 года назад +2

    I spend the whole day going through all presentations, I didn't get anything.. 20 min vid. it's Crystal CLEAR ... Brilliant

  • @nicholaspolce4591
    @nicholaspolce4591 3 года назад +4

    Like many others here have commented, I was struggling wrapping my head around VOR navigation. Watching training videos and reading up on the subject helped give me a basic understanding but this short, extremely well done video really helped me get where I need to be. Thanks so much! I’m excited to go back through the other content you have posted and future content coming out!

  • @justinmolina4557
    @justinmolina4557 5 лет назад +6

    By far this is the best VOR instruction I have found. Finally makes sense to me.

  • @argueallday
    @argueallday 2 года назад +1

    By far the best explanation of simple VOR use in the plane. Crystal clear.

  • @PedroThePortuguesePilot
    @PedroThePortuguesePilot 2 года назад +1

    So far the best explanation I’ve found on RUclips! Thanks for the video bud

  • @robwhite2282
    @robwhite2282 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks Jon. This vid is one of the best VOR instruction vids on RUclips.

  • @tedmason219
    @tedmason219 9 месяцев назад +1

    Terrific graphs that create an image in your mind's eye for what needs to happen to get a VOR heading. Very helpful video. Well done.

  • @Jim_Radio
    @Jim_Radio Год назад +1

    This video will help me to understand about VOR, I will watch it over and over and then try it on my flight simluator. Thank you for sharing it.Have a save flight everyone.

  • @martjosephaltre9329
    @martjosephaltre9329 2 года назад +1

    Thank you I finally get now, I've been finding how to use vor and the vids I found was hard but yours was easy so thank you

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  2 года назад

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  • @189wolfy
    @189wolfy 6 лет назад +15

    I was totally able to follow along with your tutorial! My 19 y/o son is completing his PPL soon and I'm trying to understand some concepts before I fly with him in a few weeks. I don't want to be completely useless in the right seat :-)

    • @FijiTheLad
      @FijiTheLad 3 года назад

      Why not just let em have a good thing, why do you have to try and act like you know planes, let alone VOR usage😂 Just gonna get em lost

  • @arun040479
    @arun040479 3 года назад +2

    AMAZING EXPLANATION!! THANKS A LOOOTTTTTTT.

  • @fredsmith5224
    @fredsmith5224 5 лет назад +3

    Great video Positive sensing and Negative sensing great explanation.

  • @Stringbean421
    @Stringbean421 6 лет назад +16

    Really great tutorial. Not a real pilot myself but very useful for learning to fly using VOR navigation in flight simulator.

  • @pauldayonghuang9284
    @pauldayonghuang9284 4 года назад +4

    This is the best explain of VOR I found so far. Thank you!

  • @embecmom5863
    @embecmom5863 4 года назад +1

    this is the best vor nav Ive seen thanks...

  • @petermckeown1583
    @petermckeown1583 3 года назад +1

    Great presentation!

  • @ryancross4645
    @ryancross4645 6 лет назад +2

    This is by far the best VOR video I have seen on RUclips. Thank you so much for explaining this concept so well.

  • @joem5110
    @joem5110 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you! I was confused on the to and from radials but you explained it right and now I understand. Thanks again.

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  5 лет назад +1

      I'm glad it helped!

    • @phoonjzc
      @phoonjzc 2 года назад

      From means that the radio waves are hitting you. To means that you are going towards it.

  • @R.B.S789
    @R.B.S789 3 года назад +1

    it was good explanation the best teaching method first i was confused but then at last when you repeat it it was clear thanks!!!

  • @nuttincowboy9430
    @nuttincowboy9430 7 лет назад +9

    Dude! I'm dyslexic and you just saved me from years of head banging at 14:00 on this vid.!
    THANK YOU!
    Rod Machado's got nuttin' on ya.. ;) (Y)

  • @deanmiller294
    @deanmiller294 7 лет назад +2

    Josh - thank you for the excellent tutorial. I learned so much in this 20 minutes. I went on my discovery flight last week and this was the most perplexing aspect of my flight. I still have lots to learn but you gave me confidence I can acquire the necessary skills with vor to aide me in my journey. You guys are very much appreciated !!

    • @fly8ma.comflighttraining199
      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 лет назад +1

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  • @AL-ui2gh
    @AL-ui2gh 6 лет назад +7

    You nailed it at explaining To and From functions! I wish I found your vid 3 hours ago. Thank you !

  • @rafaberr.rodriguez1303
    @rafaberr.rodriguez1303 4 года назад

    It took me a few replays to get the idea of positive and negative sensing but it was worth it. Thanks for a beautifully explained lesson on VOR nav.

  • @presentacioncampos6592
    @presentacioncampos6592 5 лет назад +2

    Very good!

  • @saiajin82
    @saiajin82 4 года назад +1

    WOW, excellent explanation, I finally understand VOR. THANKS

  • @flintsardog
    @flintsardog Год назад

    well done,!! your graphics work great to assist in understanding

  • @yahwada
    @yahwada 4 года назад +1

    Excellent presentation...clear and well expressed. Thanks

  • @MichelleGHeld
    @MichelleGHeld 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video. SUPER helpful and you really explain it well!

  • @joaodib4126
    @joaodib4126 5 лет назад +1

    Very very nicely taught!!

  • @TrinityOaksFarm
    @TrinityOaksFarm 4 года назад +1

    You do an excellent job with making a difficult subject understandable, simple and effective.

  • @thegeek3348
    @thegeek3348 5 лет назад

    this is great. my instructor told me something like radial is to and bearing is from VOR... this video really helped. i'm going to to use x-plane to practice it, so I'm ready for the check ride and cross countries.

  • @OrrTrigger013
    @OrrTrigger013 4 года назад +1

    Excellent explanation! Simple

  • @eddieberry8450
    @eddieberry8450 4 года назад +1

    Great explanation! I continually struggle with this.

  • @Gazika1984
    @Gazika1984 7 лет назад +3

    thanks guys! I finally understood how the VOR works!great job!

  • @WtfTSR
    @WtfTSR 5 лет назад +3

    THANK YOU SO MUCH! I was completely lost when my instructor explained it to me today but with your video, it made so much more sense!

  • @HerrWacher
    @HerrWacher 3 года назад +1

    Great tutorial!!

  • @dondoswell3113
    @dondoswell3113 7 лет назад +8

    bearing to the station and radial from the station

  • @orlandoamaral
    @orlandoamaral 2 года назад

    Fantastic explanation about VOR navigation. Love it.

  • @pappybo49
    @pappybo49 4 года назад +2

    Good job 👍! I used a VOR in a long time and this is a really great refresher. Thanks 🙏

  • @graemed-g522
    @graemed-g522 5 лет назад

    This information is so excellent, thank you, and as has been pointed out, the VOR stations are in the process of being turned off with it sounds like only 39 to remain across America by 2020. GPS is changing how we do things and I think the reliability of the system has proved itself for enough years. No doubt it will completely simplify how people fly, speak the flight plan and the plane will go that way... a lot more people might get into flying if it were easier to navigate.

  • @georgemad4145
    @georgemad4145 4 года назад +2

    Thank you sir I finally understood how to fly like that 10/10

  • @carlosbrites8201
    @carlosbrites8201 Год назад +1

    Very Thank"s you.-

  • @timypaul
    @timypaul Год назад

    Thanks for this video

  • @kevindorr5829
    @kevindorr5829 6 лет назад +1

    You Are Awesome my friend. Thanks to you, I will now get my instrument rating...

  • @stuartw969
    @stuartw969 4 года назад

    This is totally EXCELLENT. Thanks!

  • @dickjohnson4268
    @dickjohnson4268 4 года назад +1

    VOR = Very Old man's Radio range.
    Even with the advent and implementation of high zoot glass in the airliners, a lot of us still used the ND single and double needles enroute to keep our RMI and ADF chops up. Old school stuff, but a skill we were glad to have kept up. "Well, I just use PROG page three to let me know where I am." Okay... so where are you? Lost or confused? As for me, both.

  • @Hungariansausage7766
    @Hungariansausage7766 3 года назад +1

    nice video, thank you :P

  • @worldtravel101
    @worldtravel101 6 лет назад

    You make this pretty easy to understand. Several others have tried covering this topic, but yours is the best IMHO.

  • @robwhite2282
    @robwhite2282 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you Jon!

  • @kfrench5760
    @kfrench5760 2 года назад

    Thank you!!!

  • @copperwopper
    @copperwopper 5 лет назад +4

    I love you 😭😭❤️ thanks so much

  • @xSensu
    @xSensu 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this amazing explanation. I watched several videos before I got to this one. I started flying in Flight Sim 2020 and they dont explain the VOR hardly at all, so I had to go searching how to use it. Your video made me understand how to use it in 20 minutes where others spent hours only to confuse me more. I am curious, what program are you using right there, is it available to the public for practice as well?

  • @Skyrunner13
    @Skyrunner13 4 года назад

    Excellent tutorial.

  • @Stericdesign
    @Stericdesign 4 года назад

    Awesome video and very well explained!! Thank you

  • @mopar3502001
    @mopar3502001 7 лет назад

    Thanks for putting these videos up, really helps with IFR!

  • @apbeers
    @apbeers 5 лет назад +1

    Great video

  • @mmstraker3
    @mmstraker3 7 лет назад +15

    Thanks for this great tutorial, certainly going to help with my VOR training.

  • @paulcrooks4467
    @paulcrooks4467 5 лет назад

    Finally got it it . This is after using Embry and Riddle materials.

  • @chrislacey6036
    @chrislacey6036 7 лет назад

    I stumbled upon your videos the other day as I prep for my check ride. I just wanted to say, your videos are amazingly well explained, and easy to understand. I absolutely did not understand VOR naviation at all prior to this video. Now I understand it no problem. You got a subscribe to me. It's also nice that you use references I am used to since I fly out of Fort Myers. Thanks again!

  • @jbernate
    @jbernate 2 года назад

    Your videos are great! Quick question, which software did you use for this one? It would be great to play with it for training. Thanks!

  • @tm-uz7md
    @tm-uz7md 3 года назад

    Use this video up to 6:35 to draw a line on a map that goes thru the VOR (the plane is somewhere on that line). Do that again but for a different VOR. The plane's location is where the two lines intersect.

  • @garrettwilson4347
    @garrettwilson4347 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks👌

  • @gregoryhill5222
    @gregoryhill5222 4 года назад +1

    👍 Thanks guy

  • @anamericanview
    @anamericanview 5 лет назад

    You have an excellent teaching technique that makes it very easy to follow what you are doing and saying. Great Job!!

  • @joelmulder
    @joelmulder 4 года назад +10

    It’s so obvious when it finally clicks

  • @stephendonahue9764
    @stephendonahue9764 5 лет назад +2

    Great explaination! Thankyou

  • @helicoptersrkool
    @helicoptersrkool 6 лет назад

    I'm not a pilot but the moment I started making a concious effort to ALWAYS remember the difference between a Bearing (to) and Radial (from) is when it clicked for me. I think a lot of people (myself included) get/got confused when trying to visualize where they are in relation to the VOR because they always think radials pointing outwards (From) the VOR centre. They don't make the effort to immideitely look at or visualize what the opposite reciprocal (To) bearing is in their head. Even if you're a few degrees off it's still good to know. They spend too much time looking at the heading number above the tip of the radial arrow when away from the VOR station eg: after getting the frequency, they'll start turning turning the OBS spinning back and forth until it centres, depending on which way they turn may first line up with radial (From) showing say 090. (This is the point where they should quickly avert their gaze to the reciprocal heading on the opposite side which would show 270 while still turning the needle (To) VOR bearing. When they see the bearing heading number coming around they will know exactly when to slow down turning the OBS and will know when the needle will centre even before the needle lines up and not waste time adjusting if you were turning it too quickly. I sometimes turn the plane onto the bearing early, line up then go back to the VOR OBS and adjust until the needle is lined up depending if I know I'm close a VOR station. You sometimes have to readjust your heading a few degrees because of this or because of wind.

  • @abbieamavi
    @abbieamavi 6 лет назад

    My first VOR lesson tomorrow, thanks for this video! :)

  • @fntsmk
    @fntsmk 4 года назад

    THANK YOU!

  • @92348fyi
    @92348fyi 3 года назад

    Incredibly helpful!! Thank you for providing these videos!

  • @oystercatcher943
    @oystercatcher943 3 года назад

    Really good explanation. I think I’ve got it then fail to get the Cessna autopilot in X-Plane to fly the right way. I think it’s a subtlety of also needing to set the HDG bug as well as using using the CDI to control the AP. Will keep trying.

  • @folknarongrit
    @folknarongrit 4 года назад

    This is really good for someone who's extremely confused from watching hours of other videos! Are all your other IFR training videos like this? I'd like to join

  • @jasongourley6105
    @jasongourley6105 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks very much for this!

  • @wanderlust6419
    @wanderlust6419 7 лет назад

    very clearly explained!! thanks!!!

  • @chrisjavier1767
    @chrisjavier1767 4 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @salehalharbi6778
    @salehalharbi6778 6 лет назад

    Really thanks so much

  • @albertestrada69
    @albertestrada69 7 лет назад

    Very clear explanation. Thanks!

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      @fly8ma.comflighttraining199  7 лет назад

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  • @cherfieldm
    @cherfieldm 7 лет назад +1

    Nice, good tutorial.

  • @marshallhyasi6213
    @marshallhyasi6213 7 лет назад

    Great video !!!

  • @arod1pilot
    @arod1pilot 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome thanks great video

  • @f.6081
    @f.6081 4 года назад

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  • @PursuitMode2011
    @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад

    Nice tutorial

  • @toddwoods582
    @toddwoods582 6 лет назад +1

    Did this today....but also had to determine a checkpoint using the intersection of two VOR's. Do you have a video on that?

  • @kjsfhgfh676
    @kjsfhgfh676 6 лет назад

    You made it very simple and easy to understand. Thank you for that (y)

  • @gordondean2110
    @gordondean2110 7 лет назад +7

    So after you get on your desired radial and with a heading that matches the radial.....how do you stay on that radial in spite of a cross wind? Here is how. It is called the half angle method: As you begin to tract a radial.1)Get on the radial and then establish a heading that matches the radial. Then wait a couple of minutes.....and most likely the OBS needle will move off center. Turn 20 degrees toward the needle and when the needle centers turn to remove 10 degrees of the 20 degree cut that you just made.. Continue to fly and hold that heading. When (IF) the needle again deviates, turn 10 degrees toward the needle and when it centers, remove 1/2 of that correction (which is 5 degrees). Now you are flying the heading that will hold the needle centered within 5 degrees. Use light rudder pressure to maintain +/- 5 degrees. If the needle should deviate again, simply turn towards it 2-3 degrees. This whole process takes about 5 minutes to accomplish and results in s heading that will precisely track a VOR or an ILS. (Note: For an ILS, the first cut towards the needle s/b no more than 10 degrees (not 20 degrees as when flying enroute)
    So to summarize: 1) Get on your desired radial and fly a heading matching the radial. 2) When the needle deviates, turn towards it, 3)When the needle centers, remove 1/2 of the last correction made.....

    • @mopar3502001
      @mopar3502001 7 лет назад

      That's a great method! Thanks for your reply! I'll have to give that a shot.

  • @syedata7092
    @syedata7092 8 месяцев назад

    very nice

  • @willissutherland1494
    @willissutherland1494 7 лет назад

    Good Review .... Thanks

  • @countlessmansions7735
    @countlessmansions7735 3 года назад

    I am a little confused, in 8:30 the needle seems to be to the left at this time and it is stated " as the needle is to our left we will go left to get to the station and as the needle is to our right we will go right to get to the station" then we proceeded to go right when the needle was pointing to the left... would you be able to help me understand what I am missing in this concept? thank you so much! I am enjoying the detail you are putting into this.

  • @YuriShubenin
    @YuriShubenin 5 лет назад +1

    thx for the video. what software you used for the demonstration?

    • @DrunkHog
      @DrunkHog 5 лет назад

      Was about to ask that. I wanna know, too.
      Looks similar in graphics to stuff skytest uses. EXCEPT it actually feels like a mini simulator.

  • @AFancyMason
    @AFancyMason 6 лет назад

    Love your videos so much. You have the best presentation and speaking voice. Could you please do a video related to the AGI test. I’m still a student pilot but getting ready for my AGI/FOI so I can make some extra money! Thanks sooo much and keep up the awesome work!

  • @braydensandau4828
    @braydensandau4828 2 года назад

    Scrolled through the comments a bit and couldn’t find any info, what tool is this?? It would be great to practice vor theory with whatever is being used in the video

  • @davidcloudninerorg6635
    @davidcloudninerorg6635 5 лет назад

    1) Radials are unique places in space. There are 360 of them. It is much easier to visualize a course this way.
    2) These unique Radials can only be tracked "inbound or "outbound". (or intercepted)
    3) Treat the top and bottom of VOR equally in importance.
    4) "Inbound" = desired "unique" radial on bottom of VOR with "to" (confirmation is key) on VOR. This should be automatic.
    5) Outbound = desired unique radial on top with "from" confirmation on VOR. Automatic.
    6) Desired course "Headings" are always "somewhere" near the top of VOR and are confirmed by HI or compass.
    In recent years the "gurus" have been confusing "bearing" , "headings", radials, radials "to" etc when talking VOR nav.. When you talk to ATC, or you repeat to yourself the phraseology, over 270 radial "to", when you are actually "inbound" 90 radial with a heading of 270,. Guess what, ATC radio silence. Do you understand why? ATC might think you are over 270 radial inbound. The only people that know what you are talking about are the ones that can see your VOR. 100% guarantee a reverse sensing situation, or ATC confusion, in your piloting career if you use this 270 radial "to" technique, (or XXX radial "to" technique).
    "Bearings" terminology should be reserved for ADF, RMI, and bearing pointers, or perhaps the NAVY, or boats, or something. When referring to VOR nav there are only headings and radials. This is what ATC does and so should PIC.
    To sum up, the gimmicky shortcut phraseology, XXX radial "to", technique "works" but can be confusing to others and IMHO is poor technique.
    No offense, simply my Old School opinion, Happy Flying.

    • @thegeek3348
      @thegeek3348 5 лет назад

      I'd like some more of your wisdom if you ever have the time.
      I'm really confused why he would say track the 270, but then put the obs on 90?
      I watched a gold seal VOR Video that said there is never a TO, it's always FROM when intercepting. I messed around in X-Plane and thought I understood VOR, and I might some what but I feel I'm really lacking, and this video didn't really help as much as I thought after messing around in X-Plane.
      Thanks for your time.

  • @willnosmeraileron1914
    @willnosmeraileron1914 2 года назад

    hello indonesia. good !!