Everyone was WRONG about the madness hands

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Комментарии • 96

  • @Jeenine
    @Jeenine  Месяц назад +27

    This weapon has around a 50 ar difference between faith and str build at meta for those wondering, the damage is subpar unless you have heavy stats investment. It has high damage compared to other fists when you have 99 in STR DEX FTH and INT

    • @dragonslayer6000
      @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад +4

      @@Jeenine @@Jeenine it's the nicest, most gentlemanly way to apply 55 madness, at any level, especially if you already have a 130 dex build that has JUST enough faith to run vykes

    • @trashc4nn
      @trashc4nn Месяц назад

      Tbh it doesn’t need the damage. It has the same heavy’s as the star fist and the ashe procs madness insntsntly. It will often madness them out of skills and such. Any more damage and all anyone would use is this. If the ashe hits multiple people they all get the madness
      Basically Ashe, heavy heavy win.

  • @IllIlllI
    @IllIlllI Месяц назад +57

    Miyazaki said in an interview: „my intended vision for elden ring pvp is for two players to hide in bushes in opposite sides of the map, swinging at nothing with great hammers”

  • @edgybravo4287
    @edgybravo4287 Месяц назад +68

    Its nice to know that even players as good as you and steel struggle against these cancer ganksquads. It honestly makes me feel alot better because some squads just feels impossible to beat and i always wonder if im just unskilled or i literally cannot win regardless of skill.

    • @_You_Are_Not_Him_
      @_You_Are_Not_Him_ Месяц назад +23

      If they removed blues, it would fix a lot of issues with invasions. Ganks don't need blues, lmao.

    • @RWNetworkEX
      @RWNetworkEX Месяц назад +1

      I struggle with that every time I hop on elden ring. The duality of the game I guess

    • @KyokujiFGC
      @KyokujiFGC Месяц назад +17

      @@_You_Are_Not_Him_ Or just make it like DS3 where summoning a blue opens them up to 4v2s.

    • @_You_Are_Not_Him_
      @_You_Are_Not_Him_ Месяц назад

      @@KyokujiFGC even better

    • @AinrehteaDalnalirtu
      @AinrehteaDalnalirtu Месяц назад +1

      I'd say the only reason it feels hard is the L2 and spell spam mindlessly all the time. That and the damage and combat speed has increased drastically compared to previous games.

  • @dennismadrid5146
    @dennismadrid5146 Месяц назад +23

    Fun fact, if the opponent is inflected by madness, this weapon gains a really powerful true combo. Charged R2/ Normal R2 combos into another R2 whenever they are in that madness animation.
    With the new frenzy talisman + the weapon itself having a similar effect and a axe talisman, it can one shot most players
    They can be inflected by madness from any source (doesn’t have to be from the weapon) to have the combo activated. Just use the new frenzy torch and it can be gg

    • @HandleMyButWhole
      @HandleMyButWhole Месяц назад

      What's the new frenzy talisman?

    • @Jeenine
      @Jeenine  Месяц назад +12

      any type 1 or type 2 hitstun will combo vs a slept or madness afflicted opponent, regardless of weapon, type 3 hitstun will knockdown

    • @dennismadrid5146
      @dennismadrid5146 Месяц назад +5

      @@Jeenine true, it’s just the weapon itself buffs your attack when you proc madness, making this combo even stronger. Landing the ash of war straight up one shot co opers because of the combo but obviously requires set up without being interrupted

  • @Eternal_Placidity
    @Eternal_Placidity Месяц назад +77

    Miyazaki wanted the best madness weapon to be a torch.

    • @genesisosuna
      @genesisosuna Месяц назад +11

      Truly miyazaki's vision fully realized

    • @Basidus258
      @Basidus258 Месяц назад +9

      ​@@genesisosuna unfortunately, Miyazaki is blind

  • @yeahwhy5331
    @yeahwhy5331 Месяц назад +8

    Don't understand why he's allergic to trying the aow on the hands..

  • @Rain1
    @Rain1 Месяц назад +38

    What he said at the end is true. They designed Invaders to be very difficult enemies(akin to a boss in some cases) that are to be defeated probably 70% of the time
    In a situation like that he was in at the very end, you pretty much are not supposed to win as the invader, but at the same time we want to play the game like it's a proper PVP game where we can win. It's kind of an annoying catch-22
    I think it was a total mistake to not have six player worlds and to not have invasions possible on rune Arc usage

    • @gamejunkie-123
      @gamejunkie-123 Месяц назад +4

      miyazaki coddling coopers to farm $$$ is what killed the pvp

    • @zettashura
      @zettashura Месяц назад

      Seamless co op lowkey got the invasions better than base game LOL

  • @moondweller3015
    @moondweller3015 Месяц назад +14

    Tbh if the dlc had introduced a vow of silence for AoW I would have been very happy. Instead we got swift slash :(

  • @sirfijoe450
    @sirfijoe450 Месяц назад +3

    3:19 what the fuck??? I NEVER noticed those guys chant “Agheel”

  • @mangomane420
    @mangomane420 Месяц назад +5

    I really like the Madding Hand into O Flame with Godfrey’s icon. I call it the secret handshake 🤝

  • @devinn4076
    @devinn4076 Месяц назад +15

    7:06 I want you to really examine the actions of this host. Bro is completely lobotomized, I can't think of another explanation...

  • @Vash141
    @Vash141 Месяц назад +5

    My boy has been using the malding hands since dlc dropped. Now he’s doomed to be get “yt build” and “g9 clone” in his DMs 😔 feelsbadman

  • @r0n264
    @r0n264 Месяц назад +31

    Everyone was right about this 1st comment

  • @Basidus258
    @Basidus258 Месяц назад +6

    Michael Zaki had a great vision for this game. Unfortunately, he is blind

  • @dragonslayer6000
    @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад +13

    Use the fists on a str or dex build with 20 fth so you can actually womp with them

    • @Jeenine
      @Jeenine  Месяц назад +15

      Lets all play at 713

    • @hyper5056
      @hyper5056 Месяц назад +3

      @Jeenine 20 fth is totally reasonable to ask on top of a str or dex build

    • @dragonslayer6000
      @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад

      @Jeenine lol high stat req make meta player mald, they should've called it the malding hand

    • @dragonslayer6000
      @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад

      ​@Jeenine i would play at max level with you gee but i like playing at 130 because that's where all the tryhards are at and if i mess up, it's because i messed up

    • @Jeenine
      @Jeenine  Месяц назад +3

      @@hyper5056 the damage is weak compared to other fists unless you have heavy stats investments in multiple offensive stats.

  • @WithinandThroughout
    @WithinandThroughout Месяц назад +4

    "A weapon of the utterly downtrodden."

  • @alexandrosstavrou4224
    @alexandrosstavrou4224 Месяц назад +17

    Honestly, this DLC has more a feel of a Mod than an official expansion.

    • @branflakes115
      @branflakes115 Месяц назад +11

      Ridiculous comment.

    • @thethumblessn00b19
      @thethumblessn00b19 Месяц назад +12

      No, because the 10 year problem of latency was at least fixed in a mod 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Yummomummo
    @Yummomummo Месяц назад +1

    When that host finally left the bush and then immediately went into a different one I lost my shit.

  • @zankaa8031
    @zankaa8031 Месяц назад +2

    Soo anyone else notice the kindred of rot buff drops off before he even attacks? Lmfao

  • @mitrimind1027
    @mitrimind1027 Месяц назад +6

    Never used the aow 0/10

  • @trashc4nn
    @trashc4nn Месяц назад

    I’ve been using them as a secondary in invasions with vyke spear or any other heavy weapon. For chase downs and applying madness for hosts who want to run. The Ashe will stun people out of ashes. It’s actually a very good weapon. Have been invading with it since realease of the dlc. Some people just need something to complain about.

  • @josephcola9662
    @josephcola9662 Месяц назад +1

    Jee's really throwing hands with all the haters...
    I'll see myself out...

  • @noot_er
    @noot_er Месяц назад

    These aren't super crazy, but as far as taking them as far as possible, the ash of war is pretty powerful, it's basically insta madness on most opponents. It's slow, which is honestly a good thing in the end tbh. There are just some things that shouldn't really be good in ER with their current fundamental designs, madness and sleep being one of them.

  • @Mizuraka4437
    @Mizuraka4437 Месяц назад +2

    Is jeanine still playing 125 ? Ive veen trying to get into competitive and I can't decide If staying at 125 is the right choice or if i should go to 150

    • @Garvey-vm3qt
      @Garvey-vm3qt Месяц назад +1

      Yes and yes

    • @willysmithereens
      @willysmithereens Месяц назад +2

      For duels do 125, invasions are really whatever, though I prefer 60 and 150.

  • @arcky4137
    @arcky4137 Месяц назад +7

    Wait since when do the limgrave hollows say "aghell"

    • @needo6295
      @needo6295 Месяц назад +12

      always done that, its the name of the dragon boss that flies down there

  • @valeriy9522
    @valeriy9522 Месяц назад

    Is it possible to get a link to your playlist by any chance?

  • @zer0fluffy438
    @zer0fluffy438 Месяц назад +1

    Why tf u never used the skill of the weapon????

  • @Beast_6556
    @Beast_6556 Месяц назад +1

    You gotta use the ash on them crazy hyper armor and will one shot madness most armor

    • @KillerZouls
      @KillerZouls Месяц назад

      It indeed does not have crazy hyper armor. You got a ton of poise it has zero hyper armor I've been knocked out of it by curved swords, you experienced poise not hyper armor.

    • @Beast_6556
      @Beast_6556 Месяц назад

      @@KillerZouls negative it has hyper armor much like palm blast

  • @KillerZouls
    @KillerZouls Месяц назад

    Ive been using these for the last week they are amazing ive been able to one shot dozens of players also ran with endure and the frenzied grab its been a blast youve sadly just been using the hands wrong. You can endure trade with its weapon art get an insta madness on 99% of people and then charge heavy the amount of kills ive got doing exactly that with fist AoW or the grab, has probably been peak invasions for me personally im a madness lover tho 😂

    • @KillerZouls
      @KillerZouls Месяц назад

      I am 230 on my current character he started as a pure pve character but I couldn't help myself from doing invasions. I normally with the right buffs get around 1900 damage from AoW into charged heavy. If I used the howl buff I think I'd one shot any build.

  • @Big_Spine
    @Big_Spine Месяц назад

    Did not use the ash ONCE.

  • @dragonslayer6000
    @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад +1

    Youcan use weaksause AOE incant with 20 faith that staggers the enemy as they attempt to roll through, opening the possibility to use the skill aow as they roll through

  • @flower-py
    @flower-py Месяц назад

    Toptiershiesness of this weapon is an obvious thing to any madman

  • @egonomics352
    @egonomics352 Месяц назад

    G9 did you know that you can self-proc Aged One's Exultation with Howl of Shabriri? That seems OP in PVE. What are your thoughts? Could this self-proc method be viable in PVP?

    • @MeAmSmart
      @MeAmSmart Месяц назад

      no that sucks ass no ones gonna use that

  • @lblindmanl2479
    @lblindmanl2479 Месяц назад

    Were there people doubting this weapon? such a nice tool in the madness kit. nice clips Jee lmao

  • @Daanikduul
    @Daanikduul Месяц назад

    Everyone was RIGHT about the madness hands

  • @tn7403
    @tn7403 Месяц назад

    These are strength weapons not faith weapons. Ar is higher on physical attributes

  • @jackasad2180
    @jackasad2180 Месяц назад

    i use the hand only to buff when proc madness

  • @MrRobot-xs5jf
    @MrRobot-xs5jf Месяц назад

    Cheese Ganks call for Cheese Builds

  • @nanobotics
    @nanobotics Месяц назад

    Malding hands

  • @Big_Spine
    @Big_Spine Месяц назад

    Is he gonna use the ash a single time?

  • @khanzentratedeestrees5347
    @khanzentratedeestrees5347 Месяц назад +1

    Been running maddnes hand with the faith/sorcery catalyst using Miriam vanishing into inescapable frenzy but there's a damage glitch where you land the grab but get no damage after the Miriam's into inescapable frenzy and few other spells are not working either

  • @acolddarkgentlebruh8205
    @acolddarkgentlebruh8205 Месяц назад

    Do you think you're gonna give seamless a try at some point?

  • @dragonslayer6000
    @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад

    Yea ok ok wth is the int scaling all about, that req and scaling 100% belong in arcane

    • @dragonslayer6000
      @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад

      I honesty didn't realize i was also gaining 2 points in int with Battlemage hat, i have 11

  • @jasonheath7045
    @jasonheath7045 Месяц назад

    I don't see much hope for pvp honestly

  • @dragonslayer6000
    @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад

    You can pull off the AOW easily with rakshasas in your offhand

    • @Jeenine
      @Jeenine  Месяц назад +2

      If your build has rakshasa and madding hands youre overleveled

    • @WeeabooPocky
      @WeeabooPocky Месяц назад

      What??, even the raksasha 1h hyperarmor is given to other weapons???

    • @maskedproduct3284
      @maskedproduct3284 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@Jeeninewould you even need to be able to use the katana? Putting it in offhand slot for its passive HA boosting effect isn’t hindered by whether you have the stats for it, right?

    • @_Ethereal420
      @_Ethereal420 Месяц назад

      ​@@Jeenine idk about that one ,i have a level 60 build that can do that with the help of a few talismans. Just had to suffer actually playing dlc at level 60 to do so.

    • @Jeenine
      @Jeenine  Месяц назад +2

      @@_Ethereal420 if youre lvl 60, you just need minimal stats requirements for the weapons you want to use and dump all the rest into vigor, im sure you can make it work at that lvl for this reason, but that will not make sense to do so at meta. Even at low lvl you spreading yourself thin if you have madding hand and rakshasa at the same time. You could have much better fists or great kat damage with proper stats spread.

  • @hellxapo5740
    @hellxapo5740 Месяц назад +4

    Jay9 I'm using that "most broken setup" with the sleep crossbow and the Tip of the huge ass spear and I fear I willl make people uninstall this game😶‍🌫

  • @dragonslayer6000
    @dragonslayer6000 Месяц назад +1

    IT'S A PARRY/GUARD BREAK SWAP GEE