Wrong for pensioners to pay income tax? Feat. Cristo Foufas & Narinder Kaur | Jeremy Vine
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
- Millions more pensioners will start paying income tax today, after an 8.5% increase to the state pension, which many had hoped would mean they had more money.
However, as the income tax threshold has been frozen it means many more could find themselves paying tax on their income.
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This woman is a disgrace
She’s speaking sense
@@PastaSauce.This is Narinder Kaur we're talking about😂
Ignorant callous woman
Agree 100%
She's not intelligent, but unfortunately this I'm seeing more of this type of messaging coming out from government agencies. They have been targeting and warming up the public to this over the last few years
State pension is NOT and NEVER has been a benefit. WE paid in all our working lives for this pension.
If there is no money in the pot, certainly isn't our fault. It funny that there is always billions available for wars that have nothing to do with us. Systemic malfeasance in public office springs to mind.
They like to reframe and spin, it has become the norm now.
Agreed, but from there point of view, by classifying it as a benefit they can amend it at will.
Well we were told that's what we were doing, actually we paying the generation above us pensions. We thought it was being paid for safe keeping.
Equally encouraged to take out private pensions which is now being partly taken off us.
8.5% of a low amount to begin with isn't a great rise.
@@user-ns8ug1pv5p I completely agree you and not being to far off pension age theres not a lot I can do if they start changing things.
This woman doesn't live in the real world. I've paid into the system for over 40 years so my state pension is not a damn benefit.
I agree with you,
It is. Go away
You haven’t paid into a pot though. You paid for previous generations pension. Your pension is paid by the younger generations, and unfortunately there isn’t enough of us to pay for it.
And fully paid up after 35 years of contributions. It's not a benifit national insurance paid for 45.
@@Hellomynameis93 This is an interesting take, which I rather like. After thinking about it, I do believe it is incorrect in several ways. While it is technically correct that, by and large, people in work pay the pensions of retired people, it really is just a technicality, because, in reality, my personal payments influence the amount I receive, not the amount previous generations receive. In that sense, I am paying for entitlement to receive a certain amount after I stop working, it just happens to be the case that government uses that money to validate a similar entitlement in a previous generation. Second, while pensioners don't pay NI, pensions are funded both from NI and taxation, and some 65% of pensioners pay income tax, contributing not only to their own pensions, but to the pensions paid to people who have never worked. Third, it is a reasonable expectation of working people that they should receive a pension, having contributed to the pensions of others (the fair shares argument in ethics). The younger generations you suggest are paying for my pension expect to receive their fair share from the next generation, and so on. Finally, the argument that there aren't enough people to pay for the current generation of pensioners falls because government can (and does) choose to tax and spend that income exactly as it pleases, and because the UK population is growing. If the proportion of that population that is unable or unwilling to work is such that less people pay tax or NI, that is one thing. To say there aren't enough people to pay is quite another.
Absolute bloody disgrace, after working for 51 years, just starting my state pension and I have to pay tax, Is there any honest politicians out there ?????
Totally agree
No
NO.
If you vote for Reform in the next election , they’re starting the tax allowance at £20,000 . X make it count , if people don’t vote for them they can’t help the British people , Reform are patriots , believe in British values .
No. They squirrel there own pots, have gold plated pensions. People have worked hard to pay for their futures whilst spongers don't have single thought for theirs.
That woman needs to be educated to what a pension means. She is a disgrace!!!!
HOW DARE YOU LADY PENSION IS NOT A BENEFIT!!!! We’ve paid into this all our working lives!!!!!!!
It's a benefit. NI taxes do not go into some magical index linked account earning interest, I wish they did but no it all goes into a general taxation pot that is paid right across the board including paying welfare state including the state pension. You(I assume you get the state pension) get your money paid for by people working paying their taxes. Just the same as I will in about 18 years time. If all working age people decided to down tools and stop working tomorrow you would have no pension. What would you think about that, hmm?
id like to see her when she gets to pension age, and realise what a fool she really is , and it is on digital record for all time
@@user-mw9bd2ey6s Ha, ha, well you know your stuff, NOT!!!
In 2016 the Conservative government changed it from an entitlement and reclassified it as a 'benefit' . Recently through act of Parliament the Govt can view your bank account that your pension is paid into. This is because the State pension is going to be means tested and the govt will need to know if your savings are over the limit.
@@daviniarobbins9298I think your a dummy!
This women in green is a nob
The UK state pension is one of the lowest in the western world. Even Bulgaria pays pensioners double what they receive in the UK and with a much lower cost of living. In Spain it is three times the UK Pension. To tax an income that is below the poverty line is disgraceful.
Bollocks. Bulgarian pension age is 70 and the average state pension for women is 333 euros and for men it’s 457 according to nsi data
I don’t think a pension is a benefit if you worked for 51 years.
We know why it's now classed as a benefit, so eventually it can be means tested.
You might not "think" it, but it is - it's not based on how much tax you paid, just that you had qualifying years.
@@br5380 It is now, was based on your contributions, which is why there were two tiers. Now after working 10years, you are eligible, slap in the face for those who have worked 50+ years.
It's a benefit whenever the government uses the cost to prop up the figures in their "blame scroungers" narrative
Of course it's a benefit. Always has and always will be.
Sorry can't watch all of this DUE TO HER GOB the state pension is NOT a benefit
Sadly it is actually designated as such, since 2016. Sorry, I know and it makes me grind my teeth!
I also turned off due that mouthy no nothing woman
💯
Its very easy to spout off when you have a net worth between £1 - £5 mill!
It's not a benefit, we've paid in all our working lives. Narinda just shut the f... up.
That woman is a disgrace, to think that she wants to punish the most vulnerable in our society if they had been thrifty and saved all their lives.
Wow she’s got it in for pensioners, we are paying tax to keep all the migrants in hotels.
We are the poorest paid pensioners in Europe!!
It depends on the cost of living. Sure, the red tops claim it's true, but some other (more prestigious) journals calculate it in a way which means that there are 11/12 countries below us in real terms.
Yet we pay still to eu.we left eu sort of with brexit with eu countries received 75%more per week than uk.we left eu contributing between 40-70hrs a week for basic wage when illegal to work more than 35-38hrs in Germany n France per week.since the 1975 the 1st 10k income is not counted by state.eu pays for poor or below certain level full flights.hotel.pocket money 500euro EACH BECAUSE It believes everyone entitled to sunshine holiday for health but uk dosnt it actually plans to remove pip.dla.esa if receipants go abroad for health physical or mental chasing vitd
And don't need the money, unlike people in Greece and East European countries. The UK is the 5th wealthiest country in the world and has world leading health and social care provision.
We get one of the worst pensions in Europe,
Utilities are killing us,
She sits there pompous fool,
We have paid into the system
For over 50 years and now she wants to steal it from us.
Gordon Brown did a big number on that.
It’s the mismanagement of the economy by the government which is responsible for this mess. As a widower it’s not easy. NIC contributions were a huge burden placed upon us
By the government.
Deal with immigration properly,
Stop wasting public funds
Pensioners Vote Reform.
@@Holliethedog Absolute nonsense.
She is a complete joke we’re did you find her
Yeah she is so annoying!
Diversity exercise sadly.
@@derekstocker6661 Suella Braverman's younger sister.
She’s SO RIGHT
small hands just look
Handing over money to all and sundry arriving in this country, everything free, and pay nothing....raise the personal allowance, ive slogged my guts out for 50 years. And how dare that Narinder should suggest a couple in a big house should downgrade.... i bet she has a big house.
Don't even have to arrive here: our country hands our money over to other countries like there is no tomorrow.
I’m a pensioner,when I was younger I paid for the pensioners at the time and that’s how it continues. Your lady panelist needs to get a proper job
She needs to find a brain cell😊😊
please get this women off the tv
* woman
And out the country
How do they keep giving this women airtime.
* woman
To make a show
She represents too large a percentage of English people to be left out of the conversation.
This is why we have all these right-wing strange networks popping up, there has to be some sort of representation for the cruel and selfish.
Bet she’s on a nice little earner , let’s see her live on minimum wage .
Sack her please.
This woman’s generation has not a clue! She is the privileged generation! They’ve never had to go without anything!food Water heating lighting a roof over their head! Pensioners have lived through many hardships only to have it taken away!
If you need to pay something for 35 plus years in order to recieve something irs clearly not a benefit. If a company took money & told you that you that would recieve a payment in later life but instead spent it on whatever they like it would be regarded as fraud. Ni & tax was introduction in 1948 to pay for the pensiins & the NHS. It was not introduced to pay 4 star hotels for illegals.
It was not introduced to pay foreign aid to rich countries like India. It was not introduced to pay for proxy wars.
Its an entitlement if you bothered to work & pay your stamp.
This woman has no idea how the elderly have worked to enjoy where they are now. Maybe the rules should be changed so that when she retires she doesn't qualify for a state pension!!
maybe time to check her accounts and background she has an agenda .
Mad woman, it’s ok to tax pensioners because they are rich ! But we pay people to sit on their arse , how is that fair
All pensioners are rich? That's factually incorrect. Also we have the highest employment rate since records began. A massive no. of people that are out of work are out of work because they can't get the healthcare that they need, because the Tories have run down the NHS. If we had a properly functioning healthcare system many more people would be able to work, instead of waiting years in some cases to get the treatment they need.
Which folk don't you want getting benefits, the disabled maybe - or what about pensioners who've not got decent private pensions?
Workhouse!
@@br5380 benefits are for all when we find ourselves in need, distress or ill, of course they are . However there are many who chose the benefit lifestyle . There will come a time when the working whether rich or poor will have to pay more and more tax for those that CHOOSe not to work . I was born in a council estate , my father left when I was 2 but my mother after a short time in benefits found work and bought me and my brother up to work hard . I’m am far from well off but what I do have I worked for
Not that it’ll ever happen, but if the government’s so short of our cash, how about cracking down on the vast number of scammers claiming all sorts of benefits while having paid very little, or nothing into the system? Add to that the vast numbers coming into the country, legally and illegally, no wonder they’re coming after the pensioners-easy target that won’t fight back. Shame on them.
I completely agree with you! I am a pensioner and I get free prescriptions, free local bus travel , winter fuel allowance as well as an enhanced state pension all of which are paid for by today's working families.
I know lot's of wealthy pensioners who drive expensive cars to the golf course most days and go on at least three nice holidays a year.
Just imagine if the following wealthy pensioners didn't have to pay any income tax ? : Sir Paul McCartney, Lord Sugar, Sir Tom Jones, Richard Branson and James Dyson etc. etc.
But you can afford to house, feed and pay illegal immigrants and lazy MP's
Poorest paid pensioners in Europe.
Absloute disgrace.Good by rishi.
Hope we don't see your ridiculous party again
This lady is out of her mind... I am sure come the time she will be claiming her pension.
Yes she seems like your typical labour crank.
It could be worse, imagine being married to loudmouth lunatic Narinder!!
The tax threshold needs to be 15,000. This would help all low paid workers and pensioners.
I suggest 1,500,000
Its ridiculous that parents can earn 58,000 and still claim taxes back in child benefit yet those without children have to pay tax at 12,000 and get nothing back.
We pay tax twice - once when we earn it and again when we get the pension. This woman says many pensioners are well off and should be taxed but there are a lot of parents who claim child allowance but don't need it.. A few years ago some pensioners were giving back their winter fuel allowance. Never heard of any money grabbing parents doing the same thing.
A voice of reason, is nice to hear over that woman’s cateawailing
£20,000 more like
@@IBIZABIKE reform are in favour of raising the tax threshold which is why I'm thinking of voting for them this year
Privileged arrogant woman who shows contempt for the average pensioner. Paid National insurance since 1974 and worked all my life. Also paid into works pension and private pension for my retirement State pension is not a benefit and never has been.
They shafted the Pensioners ,
Where does this woman think Pesioners are rich .
That woman is just a troll
I believe she is!!!
..not bright enough ;)
Get this woman off, she knows nothing!!!!
She only knows that the government spend £150 BILLION a year on state pension...
She's bloody awful.
Actually she is talking facts, like it or not. Even if you don’t like the way she is saying it she is still right
She is not right!
As a pensioner, I would argue that it is wrong for *ANYONE* to pay income tax on £12500.
or council tax when no longer receiving salary
And you would get no contest. Pensioners take it on the chin, they don’t mind going without a meal here and there, they don’t mind having the odd day away from home and fast for that day… But they do feel sorry for the sad, callous individuals who obviously get some satisfaction being able to make the lives of elderly people difficult.
When today's pensioners worked they helped pay for immigrant families to get ahead in this country. Families like hers.
Another taker
Where the hell did she get her ideas from. For gods sake bloody know your subject before you crucified people?
all part of her agenda.
Who the HELL is this woman????
I know she always does my head in she not old enough to understand pensions and to make pensioners pay tax that's not fair on pensioner's the government doesn't what us to have pensions and just want us to just die and they would be happy as they do not like older people as they got to pay them pensions
Mrs. Popular
@@cheryl4511But we did not complain, or even think it wrong; that we used to pay towards pensioners pensions, when we worked!
@user-mx1gh3mn3w it's another world now nobody will have pensions soon it will be a benefit for all and the age will be 99 years of age when we receive it lol
A stupid one
Does Narinder realise that when the pensioners were young they paid for the pensioners then so the young generation are doing the same. We paid 15 percent interest on mortgage. We were cooking home, going on holidays in uk, not buying gadgets if we couldn’t afford. Cars were bought not on pcp’s. Pension is not a benefit. Its money we paid in as our NI
We have paid in for it ! The pension contribution was taken out of the wages at source! That is why it is not a benefit!
Narinder is being ridiculous. The UK can afford it if it didn't keep letting million and billionaires off paying their fair share of taxes.
Just don't give anything to non-workers and illegals
And the £8 million a day for illegals ..
@@johnrice4191 yep, if that money was invested in the system to process them quicker, they'd then either be sent back or could stay and become tax payers themselves. Its crazy the way this Government has just left these people be a burden. They could even have a system where they could work while waiting for their claims to be dealt with. I bet the farmers and care homes could employ them.
@@robc7162 I agree, unfortunately most are muslim and only 1 in 4 muslims work full time in this country. 75% of female Muslims don't work at all. So it would be pretty pointless.....
She’s has no idea how most pensioners are tring to make ends meet. The Uk could easily afford it if we stopped housing illegal immigrants, and giving them free this and that. and sending billions abroad for wars etc…many of which none of us voted for… they need to help those who have lived and worked here.
Awful woman
Her and “junior doctors “ should all grow up ,my first job paid me £3 per week
If I put money in a private pension scheme, it's not called a benefit when I take my pension at retirement. So why does this female, who apparently has such a grip on reality, that she believes the Union flag is outdated and represents racism, believes paying N.I. contributions for the best part of 5 decades, is a benefit?
Perhaps she knows more about India?
The woman on the panel is completely out of touch
With a big mouth.I wonder what she will be saying if and when she does reach state pension age.No doubt she will get a good pension.Let's hope she gets hammered for tax.Then she will be blowing a lot of hot air as she is doing now.!!
The woman on the panel is completely of her head.
But its ok to use tax payers contributions to keep people in 5* hotels???
You mean illegal migrants
If the government f-cked the pensions up then we want compensation!
Pensions should not be taxed! What utter BS! I hate this government!
Its people like Narinder who are the problem with this country, First thing the state pension did not used to be a benefit, it is this government who move it over to the DWP and changed it as a benefit. Also she goes on about a poor 23 years old having to paid the pensioners pension, well we all have done. Its the miss management of all governments that have created this situations. Then she goes on about we should have to sell ours houses to pay for our older lives, she is a horrible person with that SH- - attitude, why should someone who has made the right disscions to save hard and buy a house and pay it off during their working lives have to sell it, tell to go in live Russia
I agree! Stupid woman moans about 23 year olds contributing BUT the older generation started work when they were 16, 15 and even 14 years of age! No college, uni, dole, year-out travelling abroad etc for those poor folk.
3.30
Sorry I can't listen to her anymore so have dumped watching this.
Me too, that woman is VILE
I nearly stopped that screaming leftie lady was so annoying!
@@DellaWilliams-vo3ez That's exactly why she is on the Jeremy Vile show.....All dleiberate
Me too my blood is boiling listening to her, horrible person.
The most vile woman talking a load of crap I can’t watch this anymore I’m out
Am I missing something, what is wrong with being Mortgage free,
This bloody woman needs to do homework
If we don’t fight now for better rights as pension people
God help you
Imagine she spends more on hair and nails than I as a woman get as single pension
Minimum wage is about £458 a week for 40 hours. The new state pension is £221, less than half the minimum wage!
Are you saying people who work should get less than people who don't work? This seems unfair
@@davidcooks2379 I'm pointing out how low the pension is in comparison to working.
Most people of working age have to pay for children with extra food, clothes and provisions for people who do not earn yet and mortgages etc. It is not an equitable comparison.
@@davidcooks2379so where do you think people on pension go shopping is there shops that sell food cheaper then people on minimum wage .if people on minimum wage can’t afford to live how do you think people on pension can afford to live on less
@@stevezodiac491 and for immigrants
A lot of poor pensioners too
Overwhelming numbers of Poverty Pensioners, the silly cow!
I’m a pensioner and I don’t see why Pensioners shouldn’t pay tax at the same rate as workers . Tax is based on income and once you reach the threshold you pay tax like anyone . Pensioners don’t have to pay National insurance unlike workers and won’t pay university loans as they had free university if applicable. Basically every one has to pay for the Services and health education . BUT the tax thresholds have been held back as a trick to hide the state . Pensioners deserve their basic government pension tax free but shouldn’t expect not to pay tax.
All I can say is YOU will be a pensioner one day ..See what you think then especially if you’re just a factory worker or shop worker..The better payed people will have their own arrangements for pensions…PS. The “lady”in the green dress is a very bitter person..sad that ..
Pension is NOT a benefit, it's an entitlement - we've paid into it all our lives.
If pensioners are receiving higher than the National Pension, it will already be taxed.
How do we pay for the increase?
Try a slightly higher tax on the super wealthy & corporations.
Sorry, they sneaked it past us in 2016 and put it under Benefits.
Some people have worked every day to have the right to have a pension, what is this woman talking about. If this was the plan I would have not worked so hard.
Unfortunately your mindset about not 'working so hard' seems to be the common way of thinking these days. Good luck to today's generation - with that attitude there won't be any money to pay them a pension.
You miss his point entirely. Hes prepared to work hard to make his life better but if the Government take all his wealth off him when he retiress then why bother ?
Wait while she reaches pension age she will think different if she reaches that age!
Hopefully it's a very big if....
She wants to get her facts right 🥺
I am still working at 69 years old as I cannot afford to live on my pension if I stopped working I would be in the sh- don’t know what I am going to do when I can’t work anymore.she is talking a load of rubbish
i have to rent out a room in my home and have strangers live with me till I drop,. Now, believe it or not havent been able to get a lodger for a year - what very few apply are offering a 1/3rd less , not more since utilities have gone up thousands..
What does this lady actually do ? She doesn't look like she knows what proper work is.
@@Wooburnmusic piss people off
We can’t afford it - Narinder. So how are all the migrants being paid?
Our bloody taxes and they have never paid anything into the system, they get everything free 5 star hotels, clothes money food phones it's disgusting all that money could be used to get Britain back on its feet
well done you have worked out her agenda.
Pension is not a benefit
Blame the corrupt, tax avoiding politicians for the woes of both young people and pensioners. Stop scapegoating pensioners!
Tax threshold needs to be 20k fact
I suggest 1,500,000
Acc to not so recent poll, to live and pay bills to cover living you required to have a minimum £25k per annum. So the tax should be income based after this amount.
@@elza148 I agree with that
Why on earth is she even given airtime. I hope for her sake she NEVER gets to the stage of life whereby she relies on a state pension ( NOT A BENEFIT) !
State pension is a benefit. Just because you put your opinion in capitals doesn't make it a fact.
@@TheDavecroft where Is the benefit of PAYING for something they having to live retirement in poverty.?
I wish that the government does a she asks, stop all state pensions from when she is due hers, and she can explain it to the rest of her cohorts😊😊😊
I don't know if many people know this but the so called OAP was changed to a benefit in 2016 and when it suits them they can change it illegally to a pension, so if they want to tax this welfare benefit they will have to tax all the people on benefits won't they, or are they just too scared to do it as it is all called income and it is all classed as benefits legally so it should all be taxed logically!!
I'm one of those old age pensioners whose pension is going up to £169.50 a week, a scheme that I was forced to pay into for 44 years in order to secure a warm and well fed and happy retirement.
How wrong I was.
You should have questioned what the government were doing with your money all those decades.
75% of House of Commons government has been in the hands of the superior economic management force that is the Conservative and Unionist Party since 1945.
So, the right wing body politik of this country who believe and vote upon every piece of boiled shite that the tories come out with are responsible for the economic situation you find yourself in.
The voting public in this country are Thick. End of.
Really ???? What an inane remark.
How much of a nest egg would you need to get £170 per week index linked?
@@br5380 Index linked, is that why it's below the poverty threshold ?
Pensioners should not pay Income Tax like that , I don’t agree with Narinder; We paid in , we have to get our Pensions out.
Some pensioners are on well over £50,000 a year. Are you saying they shouldn't pay tax?
@@TheDavecroft Am sure some Pensioners are very fortunate and have such Pension Pots , lucky them but many are not. If you note my actual comment “ Pensioners should not pay Tax like that “ …..
There are millions on welfare benefits getting income payments of over 20k a year and for some reason they are exempt from paying income tax, why? it is still income.
I seriously cannot remember the last time i was so angry !
I worked since i was 16 . Got married . Only had one child because we felt we couldnt afford more . Paid a mortgage in the 1970's with interest rates at 14 % . Lived through the ' three day week ' with husband being laid off on short time . Eventually managed to put myself through education to get a professional job . Paid off the mortgage. And as a pensioner am now debt free .
I paid into the state pension all my working life but have been short changed by this government as a WASPI Woman .
Do not insult thousands of people who did the same ting by saying we get ' benifits '
I swear that lady speaks too much but usually clueless.
Firstly, national insurance role is mainly to make people qualify for state benefits and state pension. These guys paid into it all their lives, they deserve it. They can't be made to suffer because of mismanagement.
What an ignorant motor mouth this woman is.
The Narinder talks rubbish if people live in a council house and spend the money on Luxury holidays and cars then have no saving and are kept by the state. Narinder implies that if you save your money you should give it up sham on her.
the Freehold should be £14000. a year and should move with inflation.
Why is the state pension £220 a week when the minimum wage is twice that .
My tax code is now a K band , so I will pay taxes on my state pension
What planet is this woman on , she must know a lot of very rich pensioners , wish I was one of them
Yea go for the pensioners who paid tax for years.They earned it as an incentive to keep working.Immogrants get more money for doing nothing
i bet narinder has her own home too..rich parents?? Entitled?/
I bet she wastes money, does not cut down, save like I always have.
It's a tricky topic. On one hand, pensioners have worked hard their whole lives and deserve to enjoy their retirement without the burden of taxes eating into their income.
That's true, but on the other hand, everyone contributes to society in some way, and taxes help fund essential services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.
I think there should be some consideration for pensioners, especially those on fixed incomes. Perhaps there could be exemptions or deductions to ease the tax burden.
Agreed. It's important to find a balance that ensures fairness while also recognizing the contributions and needs of pensioners.
I already think the best move is to get started with an advisory firm
Folmar Advisory
Doesn’t matter whether the country can afford it or not. It’s been paid for by workers their whole life. Stop benefits scrounging from people who don’t pay in. The woman is absolutely clueless and should be removed from tv
not just tv!
As pensioners have paid tax on everything since starting work. The state pension should NOT be included in the income tax due on income
Shut up lady! It is not pocket money! We need it! These young people should just work, and wait for their pension like we did!!! Since we were 13
/16. I started working at 13!
I had to pay tax when I was on a low wage! Not like now! Young people now have it better!
It's not five bedroom! It's two bedroom! That screaming lady should get her facts right. We always have had a universal state pension, like our parents!
I only got £11 before tax at 16, in a
Low paid job. I bet she owns a car,
, goes to pub, drinks alcohol. I have
never owned a car, drunk alcohol!
I have always cut down! That's how
I saved for my house! Good that nice
Lady shut that screaming lady up!
Do not have a family, if you cannot afford a family! Stop blaming us retired pensioners!
If u paid in all your life then u shud get paid your pension no matter what money u have
I guarantee you that pensioners are getting WAY more out of the pension system than they put in. The VAST majority of people who have retired in the last 20 years won't have paid anywhere remotely close to £600 - £800pm in national insurance over their working contribution years.
You do get paid your pension. Whether you work all your life or not. Those on the dole get National Insurance credits so they get the same state pension as those who work for 40+ years. Not a good way to encourage people to get a job!
@@benghiskahn3673 yes. Someone retiring today and living for 25 years in retirement will receive at least £250,000 in state pension, plus inflation. They won't have paid in anything like that amount. That's why the country is going broke and today's generation won't get a state pension.
YES ALL THE MONEY WE PAID IN THE GOV . INVEST.
Pensioners have paid tax for the best part of 50years, why should they have to start paying tax again.?
That green clot woman is so disgusting. People worked and they but their house ,of course they should be enjoying the life they worked all they life ,i think it disgusting that horrible government will take that money away from them.They deserve that money 💰 you get old you don't have too many years too live ,they should live their life happily,not the worrying about money. Because they disorve it.
I thought torys are atupid that woman takes the biscuit
She is not a conservative! She is a loony leftie Labour!
she is no tory. she has a agenda like kahn.
UK pays the lowest State Pensions of any advance economy.
Of course it’s not wrong, everyone has the same tax threshold. When paying into your pension those deposits are not taxed, basically the tax is deferred. The problem is the threshold has been frozen. Look to the government for this. It’s not difficult.
It isn't a benefit when pensioners are asked to top up contributions for the state pension. The problem is that the pension is being run as a ponzi scheme with no ring fencing. Over a lifetime of savings there should be plenty of investment cash. Who was responsible for over a decade of next to no interest rates, on savings?
And theft by Gordon Brown😊
That woman, I have worked for over 55 years, I have a small LA pension and my state pension, I rent my property and am entitled to no benefits, I have a large group of friends who are the same and we will all pay tax on incomes ranging from £1300 to £16000 with rent, council tax, utility bills etc., etc., we have nothing at all left, none of us have had a few days away for 5 years, I cannot afford new clothes (all bought from second hand shops) if any appliances of mine need replacing, or I need a new mattress I cannot afford it. Who the hell is that woman talking about???
If you had a job and worked for 55 years why are you still renting?
@@TheDavecroft I know, sounds strange doesn't it, but too complicated and personal to respond on here but thankyou for your comment
@@TheDavecroft ,maybe she could not afford to buy? , just like the ones the lady in Green is saying young ones today can't afford to buy .
Pension is not a Benefit. If it was a benefit then its tax exempt. Come on government, you can only have it one way, so pick one NOW.
State pension is tax exempt or a more accurately there is no mechanism to tax state pension so your personal or work pension is taxed instead
@@mjl2904state pension is deducted from your annual tax allowance so it is taxed in reality
@@mjl2904That’s correct at the moment, but the tax threshold is being frozen till 2028. My state pension will increase to over £13K a year with this latest 8.5% rise and therefore I will be taxed, which means my state pension is not a benefit.
@@dennisspears7177 the basic state pension will never be taxed. The threshold will be raised if it looks like the state pension will exceed it. No government will want to be the one that taxed the state pension.
No benefit is 'tax exempt'. If your income is above the tax threshold you will pay tax. That applies to earnings, pensions and benefits. State pension is a benefit, fact. Check the gov.uk website.
We all worked and paid our way for this. It is not a BENIFIT. Taxable income like everything esle if over the threshold. A state income which tax can be deducted.
It’s a simple question deserving a simple answer?!? No pensioner should be paying tax if there gross income level is £25,000 or less, no brainer,
So apply that to everyone then
She says there's no money but what about the money given to rhuanda, to France and putting up the illegal immigrants in hotels
Well said 👏
Yes it is wrong. They paid in to a system which they were coereced in to over a lifetime. A pension is NOT a benefit, it is money taken by the government from a wage and utilised in THEIR investment portfolios. Taken from our wages under the assurance that when we age, and face illness or difficulty or having paid in all our lives, we will be reimbursed. It’s a guarantee, sold to us as one when our hard earnings were taken and thus, is a social reciprocal contract.
I worked 50 years for my PENSION,it's not a benefit,I paid my contributions ,always worked full time !!,the person in green needs to pipe down pip squeak,I've earned my PENSION,thank you very much !!!!!!
stop calling pension a benefit!!!!
It is a benefit, I know it is an emotional topic but it is 100% a benefit
@@mjl2904it is not a benefit. NI contributions are required before you get the full state pension so it’s largely paid for by working people
@@eckie4679 of course it's a benefit, there is no pension pot of money that's invested. The NI contributions qualify you for the benefit.
@@polaris7122the basic state pension could be considered a benefit. But I’m on full state pension and I only got that by making the requisite NI contributions so that is not a benefit
@@eckie4679 of course it's a benefit, your contributions have paid for your parents generation. It's a ponzi scheme, unfunded, (PAYE) so there is no money invested. Your NI contributions qualify you to receive the benefit!
These "rich" pensioners have worked and earned all they have, stop trying to take everything away from them please Narinder.
Not all pensioners have qorked my brother has never worked since the 80s and has a full pension
Money to build weapons that's ok
5:10 So if pensioners who have saved up and paid their mortgage and have paid their taxes through the NI all life you should be given that money back. Why are we not talking about people who could work but do not and enjoy the free benifits of what those who have paid tax and contribuited.
People have had to pay their mortgages off,they don’t get the houses they own for free.FFS.
Stop spending money on people who dont belong here and give the pensioners their pension that they paid for.
AND YET SOMEONE THAT HAS NEVER DONE A DAYS WORK IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND HAVE CLAIMING BENEFITS WILL GET FULL STATE PENSION!!!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
People think your pension is tax free , it isn’t darlings 😊 screwed at the start , screwed at the end .
Narinder is way off the mark here. Listen to the viewers which are supposedly the demographic of the country. Pension age is 66 for most workers. If you do not live in a multi-generational household it is very difficult.
That woman is talking rubbish, tv personality no nothing.