Wrong for pensioners to pay income tax? Feat. Cristo Foufas & Narinder Kaur | Jeremy Vine

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
  • Millions more pensioners will start paying income tax today, after an 8.5% increase to the state pension, which many had hoped would mean they had more money.
    However, as the income tax threshold has been frozen it means many more could find themselves paying tax on their income.
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  • @nicklawrence6865
    @nicklawrence6865 Месяц назад +445

    This woman is a disgrace

    • @PastaSauce.
      @PastaSauce. Месяц назад +9

      She’s speaking sense

    • @mazzgoldie9149
      @mazzgoldie9149 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@PastaSauce.This is Narinder Kaur we're talking about😂

    • @DavidBrown-gj7uv
      @DavidBrown-gj7uv Месяц назад

      Ignorant callous woman

    • @trevorjenkins1976
      @trevorjenkins1976 Месяц назад +3

      Agree 100%

    • @jasonbuksh2958
      @jasonbuksh2958 Месяц назад +7

      She's not intelligent, but unfortunately this I'm seeing more of this type of messaging coming out from government agencies. They have been targeting and warming up the public to this over the last few years

  • @timhayes8117
    @timhayes8117 Месяц назад +244

    State pension is NOT and NEVER has been a benefit. WE paid in all our working lives for this pension.

    • @michaelhartshorne6154
      @michaelhartshorne6154 Месяц назад

      If there is no money in the pot, certainly isn't our fault. It funny that there is always billions available for wars that have nothing to do with us. Systemic malfeasance in public office springs to mind.

    • @StevenWJRichards
      @StevenWJRichards Месяц назад +7

      They like to reframe and spin, it has become the norm now.

    • @Whalewraith
      @Whalewraith 23 дня назад +2

      Agreed, but from there point of view, by classifying it as a benefit they can amend it at will.

    • @user-ns8ug1pv5p
      @user-ns8ug1pv5p 22 дня назад +4

      Well we were told that's what we were doing, actually we paying the generation above us pensions. We thought it was being paid for safe keeping.
      Equally encouraged to take out private pensions which is now being partly taken off us.
      8.5% of a low amount to begin with isn't a great rise.

    • @Whalewraith
      @Whalewraith 21 день назад

      @@user-ns8ug1pv5p I completely agree you and not being to far off pension age theres not a lot I can do if they start changing things.

  • @colinsmith7343
    @colinsmith7343 Месяц назад +162

    This woman doesn't live in the real world. I've paid into the system for over 40 years so my state pension is not a damn benefit.

    • @sylviawhite2794
      @sylviawhite2794 22 дня назад +4

      I agree with you,

    • @nullnull7495
      @nullnull7495 21 день назад

      It is. Go away

    • @Hellomynameis93
      @Hellomynameis93 21 день назад

      You haven’t paid into a pot though. You paid for previous generations pension. Your pension is paid by the younger generations, and unfortunately there isn’t enough of us to pay for it.

    • @user-xt9rg5dj6l
      @user-xt9rg5dj6l 18 дней назад +1

      And fully paid up after 35 years of contributions. It's not a benifit national insurance paid for 45.

    • @robertnewell5057
      @robertnewell5057 17 дней назад +2

      @@Hellomynameis93 This is an interesting take, which I rather like. After thinking about it, I do believe it is incorrect in several ways. While it is technically correct that, by and large, people in work pay the pensions of retired people, it really is just a technicality, because, in reality, my personal payments influence the amount I receive, not the amount previous generations receive. In that sense, I am paying for entitlement to receive a certain amount after I stop working, it just happens to be the case that government uses that money to validate a similar entitlement in a previous generation. Second, while pensioners don't pay NI, pensions are funded both from NI and taxation, and some 65% of pensioners pay income tax, contributing not only to their own pensions, but to the pensions paid to people who have never worked. Third, it is a reasonable expectation of working people that they should receive a pension, having contributed to the pensions of others (the fair shares argument in ethics). The younger generations you suggest are paying for my pension expect to receive their fair share from the next generation, and so on. Finally, the argument that there aren't enough people to pay for the current generation of pensioners falls because government can (and does) choose to tax and spend that income exactly as it pleases, and because the UK population is growing. If the proportion of that population that is unable or unwilling to work is such that less people pay tax or NI, that is one thing. To say there aren't enough people to pay is quite another.

  • @jimmylawson6014
    @jimmylawson6014 Месяц назад +118

    Absolute bloody disgrace, after working for 51 years, just starting my state pension and I have to pay tax, Is there any honest politicians out there ?????

    • @SandraDent-lf4xy
      @SandraDent-lf4xy Месяц назад +6

      Totally agree

    • @deniscoupe194
      @deniscoupe194 Месяц назад +2

      No

    • @andreamacgillivray3653
      @andreamacgillivray3653 Месяц назад

      NO.

    • @janebruce6625
      @janebruce6625 17 дней назад

      If you vote for Reform in the next election , they’re starting the tax allowance at £20,000 . X make it count , if people don’t vote for them they can’t help the British people , Reform are patriots , believe in British values .

    • @alanbranfield614
      @alanbranfield614 16 дней назад

      No. They squirrel there own pots, have gold plated pensions. People have worked hard to pay for their futures whilst spongers don't have single thought for theirs.

  • @TerriWilson-sr7of
    @TerriWilson-sr7of Месяц назад +235

    That woman needs to be educated to what a pension means. She is a disgrace!!!!

  • @lindaliversidge8945
    @lindaliversidge8945 Месяц назад +523

    HOW DARE YOU LADY PENSION IS NOT A BENEFIT!!!! We’ve paid into this all our working lives!!!!!!!

    • @daviniarobbins9298
      @daviniarobbins9298 Месяц назад +17

      It's a benefit. NI taxes do not go into some magical index linked account earning interest, I wish they did but no it all goes into a general taxation pot that is paid right across the board including paying welfare state including the state pension. You(I assume you get the state pension) get your money paid for by people working paying their taxes. Just the same as I will in about 18 years time. If all working age people decided to down tools and stop working tomorrow you would have no pension. What would you think about that, hmm?

    • @peterhagan8454
      @peterhagan8454 Месяц назад

      id like to see her when she gets to pension age, and realise what a fool she really is , and it is on digital record for all time

    • @StevePaz
      @StevePaz Месяц назад

      @@user-mw9bd2ey6s Ha, ha, well you know your stuff, NOT!!!

    • @Umbrey_Dunctum
      @Umbrey_Dunctum Месяц назад +14

      In 2016 the Conservative government changed it from an entitlement and reclassified it as a 'benefit' . Recently through act of Parliament the Govt can view your bank account that your pension is paid into. This is because the State pension is going to be means tested and the govt will need to know if your savings are over the limit.

    • @lindaliversidge8945
      @lindaliversidge8945 Месяц назад

      @@daviniarobbins9298I think your a dummy!

  • @michaeltownsend1719
    @michaeltownsend1719 Месяц назад +69

    This women in green is a nob

  • @ttblade
    @ttblade Месяц назад +55

    The UK state pension is one of the lowest in the western world. Even Bulgaria pays pensioners double what they receive in the UK and with a much lower cost of living. In Spain it is three times the UK Pension. To tax an income that is below the poverty line is disgraceful.

    • @julianquartermain4007
      @julianquartermain4007 16 дней назад +1

      Bollocks. Bulgarian pension age is 70 and the average state pension for women is 333 euros and for men it’s 457 according to nsi data

  • @stevehyde5117
    @stevehyde5117 Месяц назад +411

    I don’t think a pension is a benefit if you worked for 51 years.

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 Месяц назад +29

      We know why it's now classed as a benefit, so eventually it can be means tested.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Месяц назад +9

      You might not "think" it, but it is - it's not based on how much tax you paid, just that you had qualifying years.

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

      @@br5380 It is now, was based on your contributions, which is why there were two tiers. Now after working 10years, you are eligible, slap in the face for those who have worked 50+ years.

    • @martinallen9067
      @martinallen9067 Месяц назад

      It's a benefit whenever the government uses the cost to prop up the figures in their "blame scroungers" narrative

    • @kevinsyd2012
      @kevinsyd2012 Месяц назад +6

      Of course it's a benefit. Always has and always will be.

  • @dougcop7253
    @dougcop7253 Месяц назад +307

    Sorry can't watch all of this DUE TO HER GOB the state pension is NOT a benefit

    • @Richard500
      @Richard500 Месяц назад +13

      Sadly it is actually designated as such, since 2016. Sorry, I know and it makes me grind my teeth!

    • @johnmason2593
      @johnmason2593 Месяц назад +21

      I also turned off due that mouthy no nothing woman

    • @veronicaboyce6794
      @veronicaboyce6794 Месяц назад +2

      💯

    • @jackyr301
      @jackyr301 Месяц назад +8

      Its very easy to spout off when you have a net worth between £1 - £5 mill!

    • @jaynebeatrup8931
      @jaynebeatrup8931 Месяц назад

      It's not a benefit, we've paid in all our working lives. Narinda just shut the f... up.

  • @dinendale666
    @dinendale666 Месяц назад +25

    That woman is a disgrace, to think that she wants to punish the most vulnerable in our society if they had been thrifty and saved all their lives.

  • @Beefeater1234
    @Beefeater1234 Месяц назад +26

    Wow she’s got it in for pensioners, we are paying tax to keep all the migrants in hotels.

  • @lindaliversidge8945
    @lindaliversidge8945 Месяц назад +423

    We are the poorest paid pensioners in Europe!!

    • @joesoy9185
      @joesoy9185 Месяц назад

      It depends on the cost of living. Sure, the red tops claim it's true, but some other (more prestigious) journals calculate it in a way which means that there are 11/12 countries below us in real terms.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Месяц назад

      Yet we pay still to eu.we left eu sort of with brexit with eu countries received 75%more per week than uk.we left eu contributing between 40-70hrs a week for basic wage when illegal to work more than 35-38hrs in Germany n France per week.since the 1975 the 1st 10k income is not counted by state.eu pays for poor or below certain level full flights.hotel.pocket money 500euro EACH BECAUSE It believes everyone entitled to sunshine holiday for health but uk dosnt it actually plans to remove pip.dla.esa if receipants go abroad for health physical or mental chasing vitd

    • @Holliethedog
      @Holliethedog Месяц назад

      And don't need the money, unlike people in Greece and East European countries. The UK is the 5th wealthiest country in the world and has world leading health and social care provision.

    • @philiphoward4966
      @philiphoward4966 Месяц назад

      We get one of the worst pensions in Europe,
      Utilities are killing us,
      She sits there pompous fool,
      We have paid into the system
      For over 50 years and now she wants to steal it from us.
      Gordon Brown did a big number on that.
      It’s the mismanagement of the economy by the government which is responsible for this mess. As a widower it’s not easy. NIC contributions were a huge burden placed upon us
      By the government.
      Deal with immigration properly,
      Stop wasting public funds
      Pensioners Vote Reform.

    • @joesoy9185
      @joesoy9185 Месяц назад +17

      @@Holliethedog Absolute nonsense.

  • @user-kq6io8xh8b
    @user-kq6io8xh8b Месяц назад +319

    She is a complete joke we’re did you find her

  • @alisonsweeney7638
    @alisonsweeney7638 Месяц назад +50

    Handing over money to all and sundry arriving in this country, everything free, and pay nothing....raise the personal allowance, ive slogged my guts out for 50 years. And how dare that Narinder should suggest a couple in a big house should downgrade.... i bet she has a big house.

    • @StevenWJRichards
      @StevenWJRichards 21 день назад +3

      Don't even have to arrive here: our country hands our money over to other countries like there is no tomorrow.

  • @christimothy3385
    @christimothy3385 Месяц назад +33

    I’m a pensioner,when I was younger I paid for the pensioners at the time and that’s how it continues. Your lady panelist needs to get a proper job

  • @jasoncockrillrooster461
    @jasoncockrillrooster461 Месяц назад +121

    please get this women off the tv

  • @kennethmaley2443
    @kennethmaley2443 Месяц назад +297

    How do they keep giving this women airtime.

    • @johnristheanswer
      @johnristheanswer Месяц назад +4

      * woman

    • @user-ci7vu7eo9w
      @user-ci7vu7eo9w Месяц назад +3

      To make a show

    • @joelboy19
      @joelboy19 Месяц назад +1

      She represents too large a percentage of English people to be left out of the conversation.
      This is why we have all these right-wing strange networks popping up, there has to be some sort of representation for the cruel and selfish.

    • @maureennewman905
      @maureennewman905 Месяц назад

      Bet she’s on a nice little earner , let’s see her live on minimum wage .

    • @andreamacgillivray3653
      @andreamacgillivray3653 Месяц назад

      Sack her please.

  • @graemehooper
    @graemehooper Месяц назад +27

    This woman’s generation has not a clue! She is the privileged generation! They’ve never had to go without anything!food Water heating lighting a roof over their head! Pensioners have lived through many hardships only to have it taken away!

  • @stuartr7832
    @stuartr7832 Месяц назад +28

    If you need to pay something for 35 plus years in order to recieve something irs clearly not a benefit. If a company took money & told you that you that would recieve a payment in later life but instead spent it on whatever they like it would be regarded as fraud. Ni & tax was introduction in 1948 to pay for the pensiins & the NHS. It was not introduced to pay 4 star hotels for illegals.
    It was not introduced to pay foreign aid to rich countries like India. It was not introduced to pay for proxy wars.
    Its an entitlement if you bothered to work & pay your stamp.

  • @sirius_s2028
    @sirius_s2028 Месяц назад +127

    This woman has no idea how the elderly have worked to enjoy where they are now. Maybe the rules should be changed so that when she retires she doesn't qualify for a state pension!!

    • @awol6739
      @awol6739 Месяц назад +6

      maybe time to check her accounts and background she has an agenda .

  • @dazthesailor6363
    @dazthesailor6363 Месяц назад +286

    Mad woman, it’s ok to tax pensioners because they are rich ! But we pay people to sit on their arse , how is that fair

    • @kyorin6526
      @kyorin6526 Месяц назад +10

      All pensioners are rich? That's factually incorrect. Also we have the highest employment rate since records began. A massive no. of people that are out of work are out of work because they can't get the healthcare that they need, because the Tories have run down the NHS. If we had a properly functioning healthcare system many more people would be able to work, instead of waiting years in some cases to get the treatment they need.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Месяц назад +2

      Which folk don't you want getting benefits, the disabled maybe - or what about pensioners who've not got decent private pensions?
      Workhouse!

    • @dazthesailor6363
      @dazthesailor6363 Месяц назад

      @@br5380 benefits are for all when we find ourselves in need, distress or ill, of course they are . However there are many who chose the benefit lifestyle . There will come a time when the working whether rich or poor will have to pay more and more tax for those that CHOOSe not to work . I was born in a council estate , my father left when I was 2 but my mother after a short time in benefits found work and bought me and my brother up to work hard . I’m am far from well off but what I do have I worked for

    • @TheNobbynoonar
      @TheNobbynoonar Месяц назад

      Not that it’ll ever happen, but if the government’s so short of our cash, how about cracking down on the vast number of scammers claiming all sorts of benefits while having paid very little, or nothing into the system? Add to that the vast numbers coming into the country, legally and illegally, no wonder they’re coming after the pensioners-easy target that won’t fight back. Shame on them.

    • @klausvoor
      @klausvoor Месяц назад +5

      I completely agree with you! I am a pensioner and I get free prescriptions, free local bus travel , winter fuel allowance as well as an enhanced state pension all of which are paid for by today's working families.
      I know lot's of wealthy pensioners who drive expensive cars to the golf course most days and go on at least three nice holidays a year.
      Just imagine if the following wealthy pensioners didn't have to pay any income tax ? : Sir Paul McCartney, Lord Sugar, Sir Tom Jones, Richard Branson and James Dyson etc. etc.

  • @Luckyse7en1980
    @Luckyse7en1980 Месяц назад +13

    But you can afford to house, feed and pay illegal immigrants and lazy MP's

  • @user-pl4ut8xf8c
    @user-pl4ut8xf8c Месяц назад +16

    Poorest paid pensioners in Europe.
    Absloute disgrace.Good by rishi.
    Hope we don't see your ridiculous party again

  • @Jonnyicey
    @Jonnyicey Месяц назад +217

    This lady is out of her mind... I am sure come the time she will be claiming her pension.

    • @ep1929
      @ep1929 Месяц назад

      Yes she seems like your typical labour crank.

    • @ttblade
      @ttblade Месяц назад

      It could be worse, imagine being married to loudmouth lunatic Narinder!!

  • @tommcmanamon8327
    @tommcmanamon8327 Месяц назад +270

    The tax threshold needs to be 15,000. This would help all low paid workers and pensioners.

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 Месяц назад +3

      I suggest 1,500,000

    • @catscan2022
      @catscan2022 Месяц назад +8

      Its ridiculous that parents can earn 58,000 and still claim taxes back in child benefit yet those without children have to pay tax at 12,000 and get nothing back.
      We pay tax twice - once when we earn it and again when we get the pension. This woman says many pensioners are well off and should be taxed but there are a lot of parents who claim child allowance but don't need it.. A few years ago some pensioners were giving back their winter fuel allowance. Never heard of any money grabbing parents doing the same thing.

    • @amandahudson2038
      @amandahudson2038 Месяц назад +7

      A voice of reason, is nice to hear over that woman’s cateawailing

    • @IBIZABIKE
      @IBIZABIKE Месяц назад +10

      £20,000 more like

    • @catscan2022
      @catscan2022 Месяц назад +10

      @@IBIZABIKE reform are in favour of raising the tax threshold which is why I'm thinking of voting for them this year

  • @stephenparkin8337
    @stephenparkin8337 Месяц назад +14

    Privileged arrogant woman who shows contempt for the average pensioner. Paid National insurance since 1974 and worked all my life. Also paid into works pension and private pension for my retirement State pension is not a benefit and never has been.

  • @christopherjones6170
    @christopherjones6170 19 дней назад +8

    They shafted the Pensioners ,
    Where does this woman think Pesioners are rich .

  • @eckie4679
    @eckie4679 Месяц назад +208

    That woman is just a troll

  • @lindaliversidge8945
    @lindaliversidge8945 Месяц назад +239

    Get this woman off, she knows nothing!!!!

    • @shyhistorian
      @shyhistorian Месяц назад

      She only knows that the government spend £150 BILLION a year on state pension...

    • @davidpearn2484
      @davidpearn2484 Месяц назад +19

      She's bloody awful.

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 Месяц назад +6

      Actually she is talking facts, like it or not. Even if you don’t like the way she is saying it she is still right

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +9

      She is not right!

  • @LickorishAllsorts
    @LickorishAllsorts Месяц назад +12

    As a pensioner, I would argue that it is wrong for *ANYONE* to pay income tax on £12500.

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 27 дней назад

      or council tax when no longer receiving salary

    • @wearamaskdavis2285
      @wearamaskdavis2285 18 дней назад +1

      And you would get no contest. Pensioners take it on the chin, they don’t mind going without a meal here and there, they don’t mind having the odd day away from home and fast for that day… But they do feel sorry for the sad, callous individuals who obviously get some satisfaction being able to make the lives of elderly people difficult.

  • @kevinwallace3415
    @kevinwallace3415 Месяц назад +10

    When today's pensioners worked they helped pay for immigrant families to get ahead in this country. Families like hers.

  • @JohnSmith-qm6xx
    @JohnSmith-qm6xx Месяц назад +89

    Where the hell did she get her ideas from. For gods sake bloody know your subject before you crucified people?

    • @awol6739
      @awol6739 Месяц назад

      all part of her agenda.

  • @lindaliversidge8945
    @lindaliversidge8945 Месяц назад +207

    Who the HELL is this woman????

    • @cheryl4511
      @cheryl4511 Месяц назад +16

      I know she always does my head in she not old enough to understand pensions and to make pensioners pay tax that's not fair on pensioner's the government doesn't what us to have pensions and just want us to just die and they would be happy as they do not like older people as they got to pay them pensions

    • @garnhamr
      @garnhamr Месяц назад +3

      Mrs. Popular

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +6

      ​@@cheryl4511But we did not complain, or even think it wrong; that we used to pay towards pensioners pensions, when we worked!

    • @cheryl4511
      @cheryl4511 Месяц назад

      @user-mx1gh3mn3w it's another world now nobody will have pensions soon it will be a benefit for all and the age will be 99 years of age when we receive it lol

    • @chrisdobbing3403
      @chrisdobbing3403 Месяц назад +6

      A stupid one

  • @user-wu4jl3gj7q
    @user-wu4jl3gj7q Месяц назад +9

    Does Narinder realise that when the pensioners were young they paid for the pensioners then so the young generation are doing the same. We paid 15 percent interest on mortgage. We were cooking home, going on holidays in uk, not buying gadgets if we couldn’t afford. Cars were bought not on pcp’s. Pension is not a benefit. Its money we paid in as our NI

  • @gizellabartos743
    @gizellabartos743 Месяц назад +10

    We have paid in for it ! The pension contribution was taken out of the wages at source! That is why it is not a benefit!

  • @mum2jka
    @mum2jka Месяц назад +88

    Narinder is being ridiculous. The UK can afford it if it didn't keep letting million and billionaires off paying their fair share of taxes.

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 Месяц назад

      Just don't give anything to non-workers and illegals

    • @johnrice4191
      @johnrice4191 Месяц назад +4

      And the £8 million a day for illegals ..

    • @robc7162
      @robc7162 Месяц назад +2

      @@johnrice4191 yep, if that money was invested in the system to process them quicker, they'd then either be sent back or could stay and become tax payers themselves. Its crazy the way this Government has just left these people be a burden. They could even have a system where they could work while waiting for their claims to be dealt with. I bet the farmers and care homes could employ them.

    • @johnrice4191
      @johnrice4191 Месяц назад

      @@robc7162 I agree, unfortunately most are muslim and only 1 in 4 muslims work full time in this country. 75% of female Muslims don't work at all. So it would be pretty pointless.....

    • @elizabethstockdale2784
      @elizabethstockdale2784 Месяц назад +3

      She’s has no idea how most pensioners are tring to make ends meet. The Uk could easily afford it if we stopped housing illegal immigrants, and giving them free this and that. and sending billions abroad for wars etc…many of which none of us voted for… they need to help those who have lived and worked here.

  • @betsyrocks
    @betsyrocks Месяц назад +200

    Awful woman

  • @gosiisdad
    @gosiisdad Месяц назад +10

    Her and “junior doctors “ should all grow up ,my first job paid me £3 per week

  • @julesw4037
    @julesw4037 Месяц назад +6

    If I put money in a private pension scheme, it's not called a benefit when I take my pension at retirement. So why does this female, who apparently has such a grip on reality, that she believes the Union flag is outdated and represents racism, believes paying N.I. contributions for the best part of 5 decades, is a benefit?
    Perhaps she knows more about India?

  • @alexcull9379
    @alexcull9379 Месяц назад +107

    The woman on the panel is completely out of touch

    • @grahamjones9971
      @grahamjones9971 28 дней назад

      With a big mouth.I wonder what she will be saying if and when she does reach state pension age.No doubt she will get a good pension.Let's hope she gets hammered for tax.Then she will be blowing a lot of hot air as she is doing now.!!

    • @davidpearn2484
      @davidpearn2484 23 дня назад

      The woman on the panel is completely of her head.

  • @margtaylor
    @margtaylor Месяц назад +81

    But its ok to use tax payers contributions to keep people in 5* hotels???

  • @graemehooper
    @graemehooper Месяц назад +4

    If the government f-cked the pensions up then we want compensation!

  • @ASBO_LUTELY
    @ASBO_LUTELY 17 дней назад +3

    Pensions should not be taxed! What utter BS! I hate this government!

  • @baridare5790
    @baridare5790 Месяц назад +83

    Its people like Narinder who are the problem with this country, First thing the state pension did not used to be a benefit, it is this government who move it over to the DWP and changed it as a benefit. Also she goes on about a poor 23 years old having to paid the pensioners pension, well we all have done. Its the miss management of all governments that have created this situations. Then she goes on about we should have to sell ours houses to pay for our older lives, she is a horrible person with that SH- - attitude, why should someone who has made the right disscions to save hard and buy a house and pay it off during their working lives have to sell it, tell to go in live Russia

    • @wendyjones3953
      @wendyjones3953 Месяц назад

      I agree! Stupid woman moans about 23 year olds contributing BUT the older generation started work when they were 16, 15 and even 14 years of age! No college, uni, dole, year-out travelling abroad etc for those poor folk.

  • @afreeman1980
    @afreeman1980 Месяц назад +131

    3.30
    Sorry I can't listen to her anymore so have dumped watching this.

    • @DellaWilliams-vo3ez
      @DellaWilliams-vo3ez Месяц назад +18

      Me too, that woman is VILE

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +1

      I nearly stopped that screaming leftie lady was so annoying!

    • @philwww800
      @philwww800 Месяц назад +4

      @@DellaWilliams-vo3ez That's exactly why she is on the Jeremy Vile show.....All dleiberate

    • @colinreece3452
      @colinreece3452 Месяц назад

      Me too my blood is boiling listening to her, horrible person.

    • @alanwilson8368
      @alanwilson8368 День назад

      The most vile woman talking a load of crap I can’t watch this anymore I’m out

  • @Alannelson1000
    @Alannelson1000 Месяц назад +6

    Am I missing something, what is wrong with being Mortgage free,

  • @anneharrison2145
    @anneharrison2145 Месяц назад +5

    This bloody woman needs to do homework
    If we don’t fight now for better rights as pension people
    God help you
    Imagine she spends more on hair and nails than I as a woman get as single pension

  • @northnsouth6813
    @northnsouth6813 Месяц назад +143

    Minimum wage is about £458 a week for 40 hours. The new state pension is £221, less than half the minimum wage!

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 Месяц назад +4

      Are you saying people who work should get less than people who don't work? This seems unfair

    • @northnsouth6813
      @northnsouth6813 Месяц назад +10

      @@davidcooks2379 I'm pointing out how low the pension is in comparison to working.

    • @stevezodiac491
      @stevezodiac491 Месяц назад +3

      Most people of working age have to pay for children with extra food, clothes and provisions for people who do not earn yet and mortgages etc. It is not an equitable comparison.

    • @robertedward9456
      @robertedward9456 Месяц назад +10

      @@davidcooks2379so where do you think people on pension go shopping is there shops that sell food cheaper then people on minimum wage .if people on minimum wage can’t afford to live how do you think people on pension can afford to live on less

    • @user-ci7vu7eo9w
      @user-ci7vu7eo9w Месяц назад

      ​@@stevezodiac491 and for immigrants

  • @user-zy7ns8px3l
    @user-zy7ns8px3l Месяц назад +136

    A lot of poor pensioners too

    • @user-oi6ln4eq7b
      @user-oi6ln4eq7b Месяц назад +8

      Overwhelming numbers of Poverty Pensioners, the silly cow!

  • @johnholkham2420
    @johnholkham2420 Месяц назад +4

    I’m a pensioner and I don’t see why Pensioners shouldn’t pay tax at the same rate as workers . Tax is based on income and once you reach the threshold you pay tax like anyone . Pensioners don’t have to pay National insurance unlike workers and won’t pay university loans as they had free university if applicable. Basically every one has to pay for the Services and health education . BUT the tax thresholds have been held back as a trick to hide the state . Pensioners deserve their basic government pension tax free but shouldn’t expect not to pay tax.

  • @terencephillips6833
    @terencephillips6833 Месяц назад +5

    All I can say is YOU will be a pensioner one day ..See what you think then especially if you’re just a factory worker or shop worker..The better payed people will have their own arrangements for pensions…PS. The “lady”in the green dress is a very bitter person..sad that ..

  • @petarnovakovich240
    @petarnovakovich240 Месяц назад +80

    Pension is NOT a benefit, it's an entitlement - we've paid into it all our lives.
    If pensioners are receiving higher than the National Pension, it will already be taxed.
    How do we pay for the increase?
    Try a slightly higher tax on the super wealthy & corporations.

    • @Richard500
      @Richard500 Месяц назад

      Sorry, they sneaked it past us in 2016 and put it under Benefits.

  • @nigephillips682
    @nigephillips682 Месяц назад +86

    Some people have worked every day to have the right to have a pension, what is this woman talking about. If this was the plan I would have not worked so hard.

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад +1

      Unfortunately your mindset about not 'working so hard' seems to be the common way of thinking these days. Good luck to today's generation - with that attitude there won't be any money to pay them a pension.

    • @stuartr7832
      @stuartr7832 Месяц назад +5

      You miss his point entirely. Hes prepared to work hard to make his life better but if the Government take all his wealth off him when he retiress then why bother ?

  • @johnwalsh8784
    @johnwalsh8784 Месяц назад +5

    Wait while she reaches pension age she will think different if she reaches that age!

  • @paulelletson99
    @paulelletson99 Месяц назад +4

    She wants to get her facts right 🥺

  • @robertedward9456
    @robertedward9456 Месяц назад +61

    I am still working at 69 years old as I cannot afford to live on my pension if I stopped working I would be in the sh- don’t know what I am going to do when I can’t work anymore.she is talking a load of rubbish

    • @davidstuart4915
      @davidstuart4915 27 дней назад +1

      i have to rent out a room in my home and have strangers live with me till I drop,. Now, believe it or not havent been able to get a lodger for a year - what very few apply are offering a 1/3rd less , not more since utilities have gone up thousands..

    • @Wooburnmusic
      @Wooburnmusic 23 дня назад +1

      What does this lady actually do ? She doesn't look like she knows what proper work is.

    • @robertedward9456
      @robertedward9456 23 дня назад +1

      @@Wooburnmusic piss people off

  • @albertothomasx
    @albertothomasx Месяц назад +87

    We can’t afford it - Narinder. So how are all the migrants being paid?

    • @Alienfrommars613
      @Alienfrommars613 Месяц назад

      Our bloody taxes and they have never paid anything into the system, they get everything free 5 star hotels, clothes money food phones it's disgusting all that money could be used to get Britain back on its feet

    • @awol6739
      @awol6739 Месяц назад +3

      well done you have worked out her agenda.

  • @gizellabartos743
    @gizellabartos743 Месяц назад +4

    Pension is not a benefit

  • @christinelightbody3065
    @christinelightbody3065 Месяц назад +2

    Blame the corrupt, tax avoiding politicians for the woes of both young people and pensioners. Stop scapegoating pensioners!

  • @jamiesmith27
    @jamiesmith27 Месяц назад +80

    Tax threshold needs to be 20k fact

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 Месяц назад +1

      I suggest 1,500,000

    • @elza148
      @elza148 19 дней назад +1

      Acc to not so recent poll, to live and pay bills to cover living you required to have a minimum £25k per annum. So the tax should be income based after this amount.

    • @jamiesmith27
      @jamiesmith27 18 дней назад

      @@elza148 I agree with that

  • @johnbrowne7188
    @johnbrowne7188 Месяц назад +50

    Why on earth is she even given airtime. I hope for her sake she NEVER gets to the stage of life whereby she relies on a state pension ( NOT A BENEFIT) !

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      State pension is a benefit. Just because you put your opinion in capitals doesn't make it a fact.

    • @johnbrowne7188
      @johnbrowne7188 Месяц назад +5

      @@TheDavecroft where Is the benefit of PAYING for something they having to live retirement in poverty.?

    • @sueshrubsole3712
      @sueshrubsole3712 25 дней назад

      I wish that the government does a she asks, stop all state pensions from when she is due hers, and she can explain it to the rest of her cohorts😊😊😊

  • @tomkerr4617
    @tomkerr4617 16 дней назад +1

    I don't know if many people know this but the so called OAP was changed to a benefit in 2016 and when it suits them they can change it illegally to a pension, so if they want to tax this welfare benefit they will have to tax all the people on benefits won't they, or are they just too scared to do it as it is all called income and it is all classed as benefits legally so it should all be taxed logically!!

  • @afreeman1980
    @afreeman1980 Месяц назад +114

    I'm one of those old age pensioners whose pension is going up to £169.50 a week, a scheme that I was forced to pay into for 44 years in order to secure a warm and well fed and happy retirement.
    How wrong I was.

    • @Dragonaut111
      @Dragonaut111 Месяц назад +2

      You should have questioned what the government were doing with your money all those decades.

    • @danemunro2753
      @danemunro2753 Месяц назад

      75% of House of Commons government has been in the hands of the superior economic management force that is the Conservative and Unionist Party since 1945.
      So, the right wing body politik of this country who believe and vote upon every piece of boiled shite that the tories come out with are responsible for the economic situation you find yourself in.
      The voting public in this country are Thick. End of.

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 Месяц назад +1

      Really ???? What an inane remark.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Месяц назад +1

      How much of a nest egg would you need to get £170 per week index linked?

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 Месяц назад +2

      @@br5380 Index linked, is that why it's below the poverty threshold ?

  • @thetudors9875
    @thetudors9875 Месяц назад +75

    Pensioners should not pay Income Tax like that , I don’t agree with Narinder; We paid in , we have to get our Pensions out.

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      Some pensioners are on well over £50,000 a year. Are you saying they shouldn't pay tax?

    • @thetudors9875
      @thetudors9875 Месяц назад +4

      @@TheDavecroft Am sure some Pensioners are very fortunate and have such Pension Pots , lucky them but many are not. If you note my actual comment “ Pensioners should not pay Tax like that “ …..

  • @tomkerr4617
    @tomkerr4617 Месяц назад +2

    There are millions on welfare benefits getting income payments of over 20k a year and for some reason they are exempt from paying income tax, why? it is still income.

  • @JW-yt7lr
    @JW-yt7lr 21 день назад +1

    I seriously cannot remember the last time i was so angry !
    I worked since i was 16 . Got married . Only had one child because we felt we couldnt afford more . Paid a mortgage in the 1970's with interest rates at 14 % . Lived through the ' three day week ' with husband being laid off on short time . Eventually managed to put myself through education to get a professional job . Paid off the mortgage. And as a pensioner am now debt free .
    I paid into the state pension all my working life but have been short changed by this government as a WASPI Woman .
    Do not insult thousands of people who did the same ting by saying we get ' benifits '

  • @teem5642
    @teem5642 Месяц назад +74

    I swear that lady speaks too much but usually clueless.
    Firstly, national insurance role is mainly to make people qualify for state benefits and state pension. These guys paid into it all their lives, they deserve it. They can't be made to suffer because of mismanagement.

    • @user-gb3kq3yj4v
      @user-gb3kq3yj4v Месяц назад

      What an ignorant motor mouth this woman is.

  • @martinreed9565
    @martinreed9565 Месяц назад +46

    The Narinder talks rubbish if people live in a council house and spend the money on Luxury holidays and cars then have no saving and are kept by the state. Narinder implies that if you save your money you should give it up sham on her.
    the Freehold should be £14000. a year and should move with inflation.

  • @davefish8107
    @davefish8107 Месяц назад +2

    Why is the state pension £220 a week when the minimum wage is twice that .
    My tax code is now a K band , so I will pay taxes on my state pension
    What planet is this woman on , she must know a lot of very rich pensioners , wish I was one of them

  • @JohnAnderson-rr7qz
    @JohnAnderson-rr7qz 8 дней назад +1

    Yea go for the pensioners who paid tax for years.They earned it as an incentive to keep working.Immogrants get more money for doing nothing

  • @user-ol3xe5fz4u
    @user-ol3xe5fz4u Месяц назад +66

    i bet narinder has her own home too..rich parents?? Entitled?/

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +5

      I bet she wastes money, does not cut down, save like I always have.

  • @Andres_853
    @Andres_853 Месяц назад +180

    It's a tricky topic. On one hand, pensioners have worked hard their whole lives and deserve to enjoy their retirement without the burden of taxes eating into their income.

    • @Annie2229
      @Annie2229 Месяц назад

      That's true, but on the other hand, everyone contributes to society in some way, and taxes help fund essential services like healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

    • @Robby767
      @Robby767 Месяц назад

      I think there should be some consideration for pensioners, especially those on fixed incomes. Perhaps there could be exemptions or deductions to ease the tax burden.

    • @Annie2229
      @Annie2229 Месяц назад

      Agreed. It's important to find a balance that ensures fairness while also recognizing the contributions and needs of pensioners.

    • @Annie2229
      @Annie2229 Месяц назад

      I already think the best move is to get started with an advisory firm

    • @louisahernandez
      @louisahernandez Месяц назад

      Folmar Advisory

  • @GiddykipDave
    @GiddykipDave Месяц назад +3

    Doesn’t matter whether the country can afford it or not. It’s been paid for by workers their whole life. Stop benefits scrounging from people who don’t pay in. The woman is absolutely clueless and should be removed from tv

  • @jbu9170
    @jbu9170 Месяц назад +1

    As pensioners have paid tax on everything since starting work. The state pension should NOT be included in the income tax due on income

  • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
    @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +40

    Shut up lady! It is not pocket money! We need it! These young people should just work, and wait for their pension like we did!!! Since we were 13
    /16. I started working at 13!

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +2

      I had to pay tax when I was on a low wage! Not like now! Young people now have it better!

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +1

      It's not five bedroom! It's two bedroom! That screaming lady should get her facts right. We always have had a universal state pension, like our parents!
      I only got £11 before tax at 16, in a
      Low paid job. I bet she owns a car,
      , goes to pub, drinks alcohol. I have
      never owned a car, drunk alcohol!
      I have always cut down! That's how
      I saved for my house! Good that nice
      Lady shut that screaming lady up!
      Do not have a family, if you cannot afford a family! Stop blaming us retired pensioners!

  • @glenparker8458
    @glenparker8458 Месяц назад +54

    If u paid in all your life then u shud get paid your pension no matter what money u have

    • @benghiskahn3673
      @benghiskahn3673 Месяц назад +2

      I guarantee you that pensioners are getting WAY more out of the pension system than they put in. The VAST majority of people who have retired in the last 20 years won't have paid anywhere remotely close to £600 - £800pm in national insurance over their working contribution years.

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад +1

      You do get paid your pension. Whether you work all your life or not. Those on the dole get National Insurance credits so they get the same state pension as those who work for 40+ years. Not a good way to encourage people to get a job!

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      ​@@benghiskahn3673 yes. Someone retiring today and living for 25 years in retirement will receive at least £250,000 in state pension, plus inflation. They won't have paid in anything like that amount. That's why the country is going broke and today's generation won't get a state pension.

    • @johnwilliam1945
      @johnwilliam1945 Месяц назад

      YES ALL THE MONEY WE PAID IN THE GOV . INVEST.

  • @user-no8bi4bg4m
    @user-no8bi4bg4m Месяц назад +1

    Pensioners have paid tax for the best part of 50years, why should they have to start paying tax again.?

  • @bedihadogru8019
    @bedihadogru8019 Месяц назад +1

    That green clot woman is so disgusting. People worked and they but their house ,of course they should be enjoying the life they worked all they life ,i think it disgusting that horrible government will take that money away from them.They deserve that money 💰 you get old you don't have too many years too live ,they should live their life happily,not the worrying about money. Because they disorve it.

  • @user-zy7ns8px3l
    @user-zy7ns8px3l Месяц назад +65

    I thought torys are atupid that woman takes the biscuit

    • @user-mx1gh3mn3w
      @user-mx1gh3mn3w Месяц назад +1

      She is not a conservative! She is a loony leftie Labour!

    • @awol6739
      @awol6739 Месяц назад

      she is no tory. she has a agenda like kahn.

  • @ozzy6668
    @ozzy6668 Месяц назад +28

    UK pays the lowest State Pensions of any advance economy.

  • @damianleah6744
    @damianleah6744 Месяц назад +1

    Of course it’s not wrong, everyone has the same tax threshold. When paying into your pension those deposits are not taxed, basically the tax is deferred. The problem is the threshold has been frozen. Look to the government for this. It’s not difficult.

  • @maryfountain4202
    @maryfountain4202 Месяц назад +2

    It isn't a benefit when pensioners are asked to top up contributions for the state pension. The problem is that the pension is being run as a ponzi scheme with no ring fencing. Over a lifetime of savings there should be plenty of investment cash. Who was responsible for over a decade of next to no interest rates, on savings?

  • @annebeckett-morris4267
    @annebeckett-morris4267 Месяц назад +35

    That woman, I have worked for over 55 years, I have a small LA pension and my state pension, I rent my property and am entitled to no benefits, I have a large group of friends who are the same and we will all pay tax on incomes ranging from £1300 to £16000 with rent, council tax, utility bills etc., etc., we have nothing at all left, none of us have had a few days away for 5 years, I cannot afford new clothes (all bought from second hand shops) if any appliances of mine need replacing, or I need a new mattress I cannot afford it. Who the hell is that woman talking about???

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      If you had a job and worked for 55 years why are you still renting?

    • @annebeckett-morris4267
      @annebeckett-morris4267 Месяц назад +2

      @@TheDavecroft I know, sounds strange doesn't it, but too complicated and personal to respond on here but thankyou for your comment

    • @uptowndisco2
      @uptowndisco2 Месяц назад +3

      @@TheDavecroft ,maybe she could not afford to buy? , just like the ones the lady in Green is saying young ones today can't afford to buy .

  • @adrianappleyard4005
    @adrianappleyard4005 Месяц назад +42

    Pension is not a Benefit. If it was a benefit then its tax exempt. Come on government, you can only have it one way, so pick one NOW.

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 Месяц назад +3

      State pension is tax exempt or a more accurately there is no mechanism to tax state pension so your personal or work pension is taxed instead

    • @eckie4679
      @eckie4679 Месяц назад

      @@mjl2904state pension is deducted from your annual tax allowance so it is taxed in reality

    • @dennisspears7177
      @dennisspears7177 Месяц назад +3

      @@mjl2904That’s correct at the moment, but the tax threshold is being frozen till 2028. My state pension will increase to over £13K a year with this latest 8.5% rise and therefore I will be taxed, which means my state pension is not a benefit.

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      ​​@@dennisspears7177 the basic state pension will never be taxed. The threshold will be raised if it looks like the state pension will exceed it. No government will want to be the one that taxed the state pension.

    • @TheDavecroft
      @TheDavecroft Месяц назад

      No benefit is 'tax exempt'. If your income is above the tax threshold you will pay tax. That applies to earnings, pensions and benefits. State pension is a benefit, fact. Check the gov.uk website.

  • @brucefraser8583
    @brucefraser8583 Месяц назад +1

    We all worked and paid our way for this. It is not a BENIFIT. Taxable income like everything esle if over the threshold. A state income which tax can be deducted.

  • @stevewebb4542
    @stevewebb4542 23 дня назад +1

    It’s a simple question deserving a simple answer?!? No pensioner should be paying tax if there gross income level is £25,000 or less, no brainer,

    • @nicks4934
      @nicks4934 23 дня назад

      So apply that to everyone then

  • @oliverplays9598
    @oliverplays9598 Месяц назад +40

    She says there's no money but what about the money given to rhuanda, to France and putting up the illegal immigrants in hotels

  • @elza148
    @elza148 19 дней назад +1

    Yes it is wrong. They paid in to a system which they were coereced in to over a lifetime. A pension is NOT a benefit, it is money taken by the government from a wage and utilised in THEIR investment portfolios. Taken from our wages under the assurance that when we age, and face illness or difficulty or having paid in all our lives, we will be reimbursed. It’s a guarantee, sold to us as one when our hard earnings were taken and thus, is a social reciprocal contract.

  • @annwilliams8166
    @annwilliams8166 Месяц назад +1

    I worked 50 years for my PENSION,it's not a benefit,I paid my contributions ,always worked full time !!,the person in green needs to pipe down pip squeak,I've earned my PENSION,thank you very much !!!!!!

  • @user-ol3xe5fz4u
    @user-ol3xe5fz4u Месяц назад +81

    stop calling pension a benefit!!!!

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 Месяц назад +4

      It is a benefit, I know it is an emotional topic but it is 100% a benefit

    • @eckie4679
      @eckie4679 Месяц назад +8

      @@mjl2904it is not a benefit. NI contributions are required before you get the full state pension so it’s largely paid for by working people

    • @polaris7122
      @polaris7122 Месяц назад +1

      @@eckie4679 of course it's a benefit, there is no pension pot of money that's invested. The NI contributions qualify you for the benefit.

    • @eckie4679
      @eckie4679 Месяц назад +6

      @@polaris7122the basic state pension could be considered a benefit. But I’m on full state pension and I only got that by making the requisite NI contributions so that is not a benefit

    • @polaris7122
      @polaris7122 Месяц назад

      @@eckie4679 of course it's a benefit, your contributions have paid for your parents generation. It's a ponzi scheme, unfunded, (PAYE) so there is no money invested. Your NI contributions qualify you to receive the benefit!

  • @peterknight6535
    @peterknight6535 Месяц назад +50

    These "rich" pensioners have worked and earned all they have, stop trying to take everything away from them please Narinder.

    • @julielawlor5482
      @julielawlor5482 Месяц назад

      Not all pensioners have qorked my brother has never worked since the 80s and has a full pension

  • @SPITFIRE852
    @SPITFIRE852 28 дней назад +2

    Money to build weapons that's ok

  • @user-zh9kc7tw4n
    @user-zh9kc7tw4n Месяц назад +1

    5:10 So if pensioners who have saved up and paid their mortgage and have paid their taxes through the NI all life you should be given that money back. Why are we not talking about people who could work but do not and enjoy the free benifits of what those who have paid tax and contribuited.

  • @Pes60
    @Pes60 Месяц назад +25

    People have had to pay their mortgages off,they don’t get the houses they own for free.FFS.

  • @DM-ki1bs
    @DM-ki1bs Месяц назад +31

    Stop spending money on people who dont belong here and give the pensioners their pension that they paid for.

  • @andyburton8346
    @andyburton8346 16 дней назад

    AND YET SOMEONE THAT HAS NEVER DONE A DAYS WORK IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND HAVE CLAIMING BENEFITS WILL GET FULL STATE PENSION!!!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

  • @karlv2876
    @karlv2876 Месяц назад +1

    People think your pension is tax free , it isn’t darlings 😊 screwed at the start , screwed at the end .

  • @vp272
    @vp272 Месяц назад +35

    Narinder is way off the mark here. Listen to the viewers which are supposedly the demographic of the country. Pension age is 66 for most workers. If you do not live in a multi-generational household it is very difficult.

  • @user-cs1dt2xw4c
    @user-cs1dt2xw4c Месяц назад +17

    That woman is talking rubbish, tv personality no nothing.