@jackinthebox995 , they sell more trucks because they are cheaper, but they are cheaper built, which means they break down more. They are also made out of beer cans.
As truck driver on mountain roads in Idaho I use the 3-5s rule: brake for three seconds and reduce speed five miles an hour. It is very successful when using downshifting as well
It’s nice to have the Jake Brake and paddle shifters. The biggest thing I can add is the hill starts as you top the climb, don’t let your speed carry over when you reach the top. Slow as you crest and gear down from the start.
Rving is a lifestyle that builds good character in people. It teaches you how to live with less comfort and more appreciation for nature and the people from everywhere. And you learn how to fix things too. I've broken down in some way all over America and the RV rule is smile and wave and be respectful of nature and the folks around you. Joe highlights what makes the lifestyle possible and worth living, especially with pets. Love it Joe.
I'm by no means an rv'r but the best choice i had to live under a roof was to buy an rv. Been an rv owner for one month now, fixing all the wonderful craftsmanship from thor, getting it ready for full time living.
We used to hual 14,000 gallons of fuel down steep grades,I remember a senior class A cdl driver telling me when you have to use your brakes lighter longer on the pedal doesn't heat then as fast as harder shorter on the pedal.
From South Africa clocked in at 341 actually, yes I do tow on the highway, the idea came to me when reminiscenting about our canvas covered trucks in the army back in 1974. Over 60 and single, now my design focus was to have a camper that I can manage own, Chucking stuff I had lying about, RTT , trailer etc, that was my no cost build..... took me a weekend 😂
In all my years selling autoparts and working at a dealership I can say that one major issue is the confusion of weight rating...that rating is not to tell you how much you can safely tow...it's telling you what you can stop...it's basically a brake rating and a lot of people confuse it with how much they can haul forward type mentality.
At 7:58. you said the vehicle on the back looked like a Bronco. It looks to me like an International Harvester Scout, could be from the 1970's or 80's.
When driving a heavy vehicle with automatic transmission, i always try to manually shift if possible. Too many automatic drivers use only the floor brake for braking.
@@bobmartens1089 I drove a 2022 or 2023 F650 gasoline box truck for my job. I was getting 6 to 7 mpg when I first drove it (on the highway). Problem is, the transmission is quick to downshift when pressing the accelerator half way down or more. After a week, I started driving in M (manual). Fuel economy was 9 to 10mpg when I drove it in manual mode, by keeping the transmission in 6th gear at all times on the highway (and in 4th or 5th while going downhill on the highway). Once you drive in M, you won't want to go back. It saves fuel and saves brake pads. Night and day difference.
Yes, there is a large RVing public here in Europe. We live in Portugal now, transplants from California. We see lots of small C class coaches and there are quite a few RV parks throughout the country, particularly along the coast. The roads are pretty good and fuel is readily available but expensive. We took our 38 foot 5th wheel all over the USA before we moved here last year. Great trip, but we're done with RVing. Happy trails to you!
One nice thing about a tag axle is that you have an extra set of breaks. I always show right down at the top and dont worry about the guy in a hurry behind you. It takes 4 times more force to stop a vehicle going 60 as one going 30. Use your jakes or transmission retarder and dont ride the breaks.
Be very cautious with using the transmission in a low gear to hold back the load going downhill. Especially in newer trucks. I am doing some woodworking for a client. He just told me yesterday that his brother almost died in an RV accident. The gear selected resulted in over revving the engine. The computer automatically shut the engine off. He was then hurtling downhill with no power brakes and no power steering. If it ever happens, shift to neutral and restart the engine.
A guy in Southern Cal has a mid duty flatbed truck like tow companies use onto which he loads his 2 Jeeps THEN he hitches up his 30ft travel trailer and off they go for a weekend of trail riding. SWEET setup. !
Down shifting also gives you better stopping power in ice and snow. I rarely use my brakes except to downshift to another gear on hills and ice and snow.
Current set up: 2019 Chevrolet 6.6L Duramax, long bed, crewcab, 4x4 & 2020.5 Heartland Big Country 4011ERD. 62' overall and 27500# overall. We've been down as steep as 16% in Mexico and 12% in the U.S. My attack on grades is down shift to 1st gear at the top of the grade. Set the engine brake (jakes) on. ALTERNATE braking as needed between 5th and truck. Slow & low... 14 rv's in 33 years.
I wish I could afford to go camping with something other than a tent but I can't afford anything else but I enjoy watching your RUclips channel you all have some impressive rides
another problem i read about is rigs overloaded from factory without anything inside and water tanks filled . so before accepting rig i insist on a certified weigh slip from a truck stop
the white one with the Mercedes emblem is a Unimog with a living modul in the back. The Unimog is a versatile work vehicle. but is great to build an RV on that chassis. there are some companies in Europe that convert off-road work vehicles of various makes into RVs.
Hey Joe! Nice video. Our rig is a '09 Chevy cut-away shuttle bus "Serenity". Duramax diesel with 6 spd. Allason trans., but only shows 4 speeds in shift indicator. I wonder how's the best way and how many gears down should I put the indicator? We survived our big trip from KY to WA using surge braking. Anybody know about this eng./trans. setup?
Lots of good advice in the comments section. In my experience I downshift, downshift and downshift some more. I take all the passing lanes to allow vehicles behind pass. I stop at view areas if they are big enough safely accommodate my rig. I take a mental break and enjoy the view. If towing, I disconnect and drive separately.
You will see them listed under the acronym HDT - Heavy Duty Trucks - like big rigs but very automatic and I don't think as powerful as the bigger commercial big rigs,
If I have to stop a bit aggressively when towing my fifth wheel., I automatically grab my truck trailer brake slider, and prepare to slide it if the trailer feels like its pushing the truck. I have the brake adjusted good, but better to be safe. I highly recommend this if pulling a travel trailer. If the trailer starts to swerve, release truck brake and slide the brake switch to get the trailer stable
One of the most neglected maintenance items on an RV (or any vehicle for that matter) is the brake fluid. If your brake fluid is more than 2 years old, you should flush and renew before attempting any grades or passes. All the braking and downshifting technique in the world will not overcome moisture in a brake system.
@@RVingWithJoe I rode bikes for 50 years to witness quite a few go down on the freeway exit when the road is wet. Touch the brakes in the curve and watch the trailer slide around next to them. These days I have a 94 lifted jeep for fun no doors and a bikini top.
Been told many times you use the same gear to go down a hill you use to climb it , you may hold up traffic better that then going off the road and be late for ever
@@RVingWithJoe when I seen those motor cycles being towed it reminded me of when we use to go camping on our Harley. I had everything in my saddle bags including a tent , air mattress..the works. I pulled it into a scale one time we went camping, and it weighed over 1500 lbs.. we drank some of that weight before we left..😃
I know my route to my tractor show and I'm running a 97 f350 dually pulling a 13k trl so I'm scaling 23k gross approx. Before Sherman's hill by traverse city MI. I slow to 35 at the top and lock down Into 2nd. Don't really touch my brakes at all til 3/4 down. FORGET ABOUT THOSE BEHIND YOU WHEN IT COMES TO STEEP GRADES PERIOD.
Lillooet to Pemberton in British Columbia in a Class C Sprinter based RV.......Engine braking is useless with the 2.7l diesel (spins up like a sewing machine). Scared the hell out of us, and I am an experienced driver......Tried to buy a Telma electromagnetic set up after that, but they don't make one for this vehicle. I'll think twice before I take that scenic route again.
The other thing is people pulling large trailer over4.600 kg or 10.300 lbs don't know have to have an endorsement don't have it have a wreck you have no insurance, I understand some States have same thing
I used to be all about American made vehicles, until i had a ford explorer for a decade, Now I am all about Toyotas. I would only buy an American truck if it were a diesel.
I downshift a passenger car going down steep grades. It blows my mind that people are out there driving RV’s with no concept of downshifting. It’s mind boggling
Change/flush your brake fluid every 2 years!!!! Brake fluid absorbs moisture! Brake fluid with a high moisture content will boil when it gets very hot! It turns into a vapor from a liquid, vapor cannot be compressed and the pedal goes to the floor. I was in the auto repair business for 50 years.........I'm speaking the truth here.
The general rule of thumb is that you should be going down the mountain at the same speed and in the same gear that you climbed up the mountain. The engine and transmission should be holding the vehicle back to the point that you only need to surge break a few times while going down the grade (maybe 3 or 4 times). You really need to know what you're doing when mountain driving with an oversize/high profile vehicle. If you have never driven a large vehicle and are new to RVing, and don't have a clue, then formal driver training is highly recommended to avoid a catastrophic accident. I formerly held a Class A CDL so that was my formal training and mountain driving with a heavy load is not something to take lightly.
At 9:20 mins you called a, uh, camper, an M.C. Escher. Sir, you referenced my favorite Artist. Thank you, I haven't heard his name in a while. At 10:00 mins you give a hats off salute to the American Flag Van. Again, thank you from a fellow North American, your all right. At 10:30 mins The Big White Ford, I'm there with you. If you know proper maintenance old Fords will prove their worth. Very cool. Overall, your depiction of the Road Warriors are spot on. From STL, MO USA and a new subscriber.
Those huge offroad RVs wont make it on most offroads because theyre too big! Here in colorado everybody drives Tacoma's because they can go anywhere a jeep goes. You get on a narrow mountain road you font want a big road hog.
Agreed as I recently learned driving a Jeep on some FSRs instead of my long wheelbase F150 and I had some much more opportunity, The small trails and deactivated roads will get too small for some of these BUT you can easily travel hundreds and thousands of kilimoeters on gravel roads here in North and West Canada and nearly all those roads are designed for big trucks (timber, oil, coal, copper etc) so these vehicles will payoff. Its also hard to full time across continents in a Tacoma so there is always a tradeoff.
Proper braking on mountain passes - first and foremost - start in a lower gear. Your brakes are not all in the same adjustment at the same time - some are a tighter fit, some are a looser fit to the disk or drum than each of the other brakes at any given time. The tightest is the one in the best adjustment. When you "lightly ride" the brakes down a mountain grade you're not saving them - you're heating up/wearing down the one brake in the best adjustment, the others are going to be loose, they have not yet been engaged in the braking of the vehicle at all or at least very little. As you move forward you find you need more braking and you press a little harder on the brake - now one brake is hot and pretty much useless as the one in the next best adjustment is applied to the light braking of the vehicle; then that one heats up and becomes useless and the same thing happens to the third and fourth brake as well - then you have no braking power left to slow the vehicle. The Teton RV must have had too much speed and/or a combination of not started out in a low enough gear. Proper braking would have reduced the risk of that crash occurring even if there were other problems at the time. To the victims of this crash, I offer my deepest condolences. In all honesty - I only read about proper braking a few years ago though I watch the other guys and the ones that do not smoke their brakes are never showing taillights all the way down. Rain or cold may dimmish brake fading but I would never rely on any outside effect on the vehicle when my family's safety is in question. That is why pressing firmly but not excessively for short periods when braking, is the best and the only way to safely descend a steep grade - it engages all brakes at the same time - evenly. I decide what speed is safe and as the vehicle builds to that determined speed and I brake firmly and for very short periods, maybe 2-3 seconds to decrease my speed by 5 miles an hour each time I slow the vehicle on a grade. I decide the speed based on will I be able to come to a dead stop if I have to going down this grade. No matter your speed it will take all of your brakes to come to a complete stop on a grade - you don't want them hot when you really need to use them. I agree completely with the author when he states when going downhill, he tries not to use the brakes at all and allows down shifting to carry the burden of braking. What is a safe speed? If you feel your braking to often you will be uncomfortable, anxious. Slow down right then while you still have brakes cool enough to do so. Trust the pucker factor, it will not lie to you. Also, the amount of money spent on an RV will not make you invincible in the mountains - your braking systems are controlled by the same physics as a compact car or tractor trailer. I have 24 plus years driving commercial vehicles in all weather and terrain conditions. I have "smoked" my brakes a few times over the years, the early years. Smoked? Thats when the dirt and oil on the brake drum or caliper becomes so hot from excessive braking it actually cooks off the dirt, oil and brake parts. The smell of asbestos will be very strong as well - that's the brake pads/shoes burning off. By that time the heat of the brakes fades the braking to nothing at all. If you smell asbestos, you are already in big trouble, stop the vehicle right then if you can. My family traveled in a station wagon pulling a Yellowstone trailer for much of my youth. I plan to RV again in the next year during retirement. Here's an example from this past Thursday 10-30-24 at Cabage Pass. Pendelton Oregon is at the bottom of that pass. I scaled in at 77,000 lbs and knowing that pass I selected 9th gear out of 12 gears on a 2024 Freightliner Cascadia automatic - 3:71 rears I believe That grades 6% area begins where the Scenic Overlook merges back into I-84. Above that point it's a bit steep so I reduced my speed from 65 mph to 55 mph; but it shallows out just before the Scenic Overlook. At the shallow area I braked down into 9th gear from 11th. The engine brake was already set to the 3rd and highest level and my RPM's were right at 2,100. I traversed the entire pass without using any braking running a steady 47 MPH. I traversed Sherman Summit the day before - Laramie Wy is at the bottom of that pass. I pressed firmly on my brakes three times for 2-3 seconds and lost a couple of hundred RPM's and 5 mph each braking. I started out a bit faster at the top since that is a 5% grade. I did not like braking at all. I hope this was helpful. Bruce Milne, Portland Oregon
The rule is. What ever hear you go up on , go down in that gear or one less . To many people don't know how to drive . They drive a car or truck with no trailer then retire thinking their truck drivers now .
David C treduckin-in great brittain-illegal over here! One trailer only except for showmens vehicles and farm vehicles. Shame really-if it was legal I’d be borrowing another trailer just for the hell of it!
2:00 I was pulled over by Police once for going down a steep grade without using My Brakes. Mind you when he actually pulled Me over and My Brake Lights came On, he apologised to Me for pulling Me over.
In the 70’s my parents took us on a camper trip out west. My dad bought a mallard travel trailer,he pulled it with a Cadillac fleetwood. This happened on the Tetons too,we were on the down grade and my dad didn’t know to put it in low so the brakes were smoking ,so my brother gets on the CB and asked for a Smokie report.
Some of those pictures of really nice RVs. Where do I buy an RV? Hell no. I'm just trying to quote my attorneys. I like that F-150 with the camper, I think I would consider that.
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Ford F series is the most sold trucks in history
Built Ford Tough!
@@RVingWithJoe Right On Joe
@@jackinthebox995 - They also have the most frequently repaired records.
@@Erin-Thor Sell more trucks= more trucks to repair
@jackinthebox995 , they sell more trucks because they are cheaper, but they are cheaper built, which means they break down more. They are also made out of beer cans.
As truck driver on mountain roads in Idaho I use the 3-5s rule: brake for three seconds and reduce speed five miles an hour. It is very successful when using downshifting as well
I think some of those RV drivers need CDL or some sort
It’s nice to have the Jake Brake and paddle shifters. The biggest thing I can add is the hill starts as you top the climb, don’t let your speed carry over when you reach the top. Slow as you crest and gear down from the start.
Yup! ITs easier to stay slow than it is to slow down.
jake brakes will be nice , but why RV makers never instal Telma brakes Easy install and reasonable price
I learded about down shifting at 18 . Im a 70 yr old (woman) driving a class A. No accidents. No scrapes
Rving is a lifestyle that builds good character in people. It teaches you how to live with less comfort and more appreciation for nature and the people from everywhere. And you learn how to fix things too. I've broken down in some way all over America and the RV rule is smile and wave and be respectful of nature and the folks around you. Joe highlights what makes the lifestyle possible and worth living, especially with pets. Love it Joe.
Hopefully, you have some character BEFORE you expose the rest of the world to yourself.
@@rastus666 Lets say it builds BETTER character! :)
IM A TRUCKER. WHAT EVER GEAR YOU WENT UP IN, THATS THE GEAR YOU TRY TO STAY IN ON THE DOWN HILL
I'm by no means an rv'r but the best choice i had to live under a roof was to buy an rv. Been an rv owner for one month now, fixing all the wonderful craftsmanship from thor, getting it ready for full time living.
We used to hual 14,000 gallons of fuel down steep grades,I remember a senior class A cdl driver telling me when you have to use your brakes lighter longer on the pedal doesn't heat then as fast as harder shorter on the pedal.
My 2012 f250 XL single cab gasser has 225k miles and still goes my 10k lbs bumper pull like a cheap. Only repair so far, 1 coil pack. FORD FOR LIFE.
From South Africa clocked in at 341 actually, yes I do tow on the highway, the idea came to me when reminiscenting about our canvas covered trucks in the army back in 1974. Over 60 and single, now my design focus was to have a camper that I can manage own, Chucking stuff I had lying about, RTT , trailer etc, that was my no cost build..... took me a weekend 😂
Uitstekend!! Dankie Warren.
In all my years selling autoparts and working at a dealership I can say that one major issue is the confusion of weight rating...that rating is not to tell you how much you can safely tow...it's telling you what you can stop...it's basically a brake rating and a lot of people confuse it with how much they can haul forward type mentality.
@@livingourdestiny9075 well put and a good POV to have!!
At 7:58. you said the vehicle on the back looked like a Bronco. It looks to me like an International Harvester Scout, could be from the 1970's or 80's.
@@evanevans2269 good call!!! Thanks.
70s most likely. Last one rolled on the factory in floor in 1980.
When driving a heavy vehicle with automatic transmission, i always try to manually shift if possible. Too many automatic drivers use only the floor brake for braking.
I never used manual shifting only F150. TILL I started towing a RV, now I know what it's for😅
@@bobmartens1089 I drove a 2022 or 2023 F650 gasoline box truck for my job. I was getting 6 to 7 mpg when I first drove it (on the highway). Problem is, the transmission is quick to downshift when pressing the accelerator half way down or more. After a week, I started driving in M (manual). Fuel economy was 9 to 10mpg when I drove it in manual mode, by keeping the transmission in 6th gear at all times on the highway (and in 4th or 5th while going downhill on the highway). Once you drive in M, you won't want to go back. It saves fuel and saves brake pads. Night and day difference.
@@ReeseL4D maybe I will get more manual about it
Yes, there is a large RVing public here in Europe. We live in Portugal now, transplants from California. We see lots of small C class coaches and there are quite a few RV parks throughout the country, particularly along the coast. The roads are pretty good and fuel is readily available but expensive. We took our 38 foot 5th wheel all over the USA before we moved here last year. Great trip, but we're done with RVing. Happy trails to you!
One nice thing about a tag axle is that you have an extra set of breaks. I always show right down at the top and dont worry about the guy in a hurry behind you. It takes 4 times more force to stop a vehicle going 60 as one going 30. Use your jakes or transmission retarder and dont ride the breaks.
From big rigs to SUVs... gears are your friends!
*brakes
Be very cautious with using the transmission in a low gear to hold back the load going downhill. Especially in newer trucks. I am doing some woodworking for a client. He just told me yesterday that his brother almost died in an RV accident. The gear selected resulted in over revving the engine. The computer automatically shut the engine off. He was then hurtling downhill with no power brakes and no power steering.
If it ever happens, shift to neutral and restart the engine.
Yes I sometimes have to pop it into manual to upshift when coming off a steep hill with the engine racing in 2nd gear.
Jake Brakes, Exhaust brake system. They make after market for gas engines.
Even if it’s a gas engine, downshift, let the engine scream, still better than losing your brakes.
@@Erin-Thor But watch that Trans Temp... even of going downhill!
A guy in Southern Cal has a mid duty flatbed truck like tow companies use onto which he loads his 2
Jeeps THEN he hitches up his 30ft travel trailer and off they go for a weekend of trail riding.
SWEET setup.
!
I just purchased it 2018 Forrester 31 foot Class C
E450.
It replaces my thirty one foot travel trailer.
Down shifting also gives you better stopping power in ice and snow. I rarely use my brakes except to downshift to another gear on hills and ice and snow.
Isn't Argentina under hyperinflation now,really a good time to go camping?
I used fo live in Sandpoint also, visiting there next year for a month. Traveling in a 2003 Winnebago adventurer with wife and 2 large Goldendoodle.
Soooo many people pull a over loaded trailer and is very dangerous.
AND more importantly... overloaded trucks!
5:28 Those are also Dutch plates.. A 2004 Dodge 2500. First registered in the Netherlands in 2008.
Current set up: 2019 Chevrolet 6.6L Duramax, long bed, crewcab, 4x4 & 2020.5 Heartland Big Country 4011ERD. 62' overall and 27500# overall. We've been down as steep as 16% in Mexico and 12% in the U.S. My attack on grades is down shift to 1st gear at the top of the grade. Set the engine brake (jakes) on. ALTERNATE braking as needed between 5th and truck. Slow & low... 14 rv's in 33 years.
+1 on slow and low!!
Great advice on downhill driving. Your broadcast could save some lives.
Yup! He nailed it. Brake only if needed to drop to a lower gear, never rush, go slower than you think you should, and let the engine do the work.
I wish I could afford to go camping with something other than a tent but I can't afford anything else but I enjoy watching your RUclips channel you all have some impressive rides
another problem i read about is rigs overloaded from factory without anything inside and water tanks filled . so before accepting rig i insist on a certified weigh slip from a truck stop
the white one with the Mercedes emblem is a Unimog with a living modul in the back. The Unimog is a versatile work vehicle. but is great to build an RV on that chassis. there are some companies in Europe that convert off-road work vehicles of various makes into RVs.
Thanks!!
That is not an old Bronco behind the slide on camper on a trailer. It is an old International Scout. ;-)
Another great video, Joe. Just like your eyebrow game, your videos speak louder than words!
Its like you can mute the video and just read my 'brows!
Dang Joe almost 15k, Good job
Thanks. Yeah it’s a new milestone!!!
Hey Joe! Nice video. Our rig is a '09 Chevy cut-away shuttle bus "Serenity". Duramax diesel with 6 spd. Allason trans., but only shows 4 speeds in shift indicator. I wonder how's the best way and how many gears down should I put the indicator? We survived our big trip from KY to WA using surge braking. Anybody know about this eng./trans. setup?
The Dodge have also plates from the Netherlands
Downhill tip, go down a hill in gear that you go up the hill. Safety first.
Good idea.
As a truck driver of forty five years retired sometimes Slower is faster.
Lots of good advice in the comments section. In my experience I downshift, downshift and downshift some more. I take all the passing lanes to allow vehicles behind pass. I stop at view areas if they are big enough safely accommodate my rig. I take a mental break and enjoy the view. If towing, I disconnect and drive separately.
Use tow haul mode to help your vehicle to slow down your rig!
I lived in Sandpoint and Priest River for 9 years. Took a vacation in July on a floathouse in Bayview. LOVE north Idaho
@@CraigS41 I visited Priest River once since I was a kid …I had California plates at the time… turned out that did not go well for me there … lol
Fantastic as usual. You do a great great job.
Thanks a bunch!!
What are those RV tow trucks called? 4:30
You will see them listed under the acronym HDT - Heavy Duty Trucks - like big rigs but very automatic and I don't think as powerful as the bigger commercial big rigs,
Big steep hill i start about 30 mph coming down
Jake Brake? Surge Brake?
Hey bud. Im from MB.
I got pictures and some videos.
Remind me in the next day o so.
Just caught you before bed.🤜🤛✌️
HMU at RVingWithJoe@gmail.com
How do I send you a pic. I tried and the RUclips link failed?
Rvingwithjoe@gmail.com and thanks for trying
If I have to stop a bit aggressively when towing my fifth wheel., I automatically grab my truck trailer brake slider, and prepare to slide it if the trailer feels like its pushing the truck. I have the brake adjusted good, but better to be safe. I highly recommend this if pulling a travel trailer. If the trailer starts to swerve, release truck brake and slide the brake switch to get the trailer stable
One of the most neglected maintenance items on an RV (or any vehicle for that matter) is the brake fluid. If your brake fluid is more than 2 years old, you should flush and renew before attempting any grades or passes. All the braking and downshifting technique in the world will not overcome moisture in a brake system.
People don't think they don't need to stop brake check,Registration it say commercial chassis. In Canada you by pass brake check you can be charged
Go down the hill in the same gear you went up it.
Yup.
The Safari Condo Alto travel trailer is manufactured in Canada.
Quebec. Someone posted that there is a 2 year waiting list.
You should do a segment on motorcycle accidents pulling trailers with no brakes on the trailer.
Seen any videos or reports of accidents? Its a bit outside my wheelhouse.
@@RVingWithJoe I rode bikes for 50 years to witness quite a few go down on the freeway exit when the road is wet. Touch the brakes in the curve and watch the trailer slide around next to them. These days I have a 94 lifted jeep for fun no doors and a bikini top.
Been told many times you use the same gear to go down a hill you use to climb it , you may hold up traffic better that then going off the road and be late for ever
Did you notice that monster rv had RV ⚡ Joe on its front plate ..?
That was a graphic to cover up the license plate. I TRY to do that when I take the photos. Yes my AC/DC style logo. :)
@@RVingWithJoe yeah that was pretty cool
@@RVingWithJoe when I seen those motor cycles being towed it reminded me of when we use to go camping on our Harley. I had everything in my saddle bags including a tent , air mattress..the works. I pulled it into a scale one time we went camping, and it weighed over 1500 lbs.. we drank some of that weight before we left..😃
I know my route to my tractor show and I'm running a 97 f350 dually pulling a 13k trl so I'm scaling 23k gross approx. Before Sherman's hill by traverse city MI. I slow to 35 at the top and lock down Into 2nd. Don't really touch my brakes at all til 3/4 down. FORGET ABOUT THOSE BEHIND YOU WHEN IT COMES TO STEEP GRADES PERIOD.
Driving through New Mexico, blue ox made it easy towing a hummer h3 with a 30-foot motor home.well worth the $1500
Some things you don't want to cheap out.
Lillooet to Pemberton in British Columbia in a Class C Sprinter based RV.......Engine braking is useless with the 2.7l diesel (spins up like a sewing machine). Scared the hell out of us, and I am an experienced driver......Tried to buy a Telma electromagnetic set up after that, but they don't make one for this vehicle. I'll think twice before I take that scenic route again.
I’m not a RVer since I live in a apartment building. When I go camping. I sleep in my tent.
I was an apartment dwelling RVer for years!!! But whatever gets you out there works for me!!
Good show keep it up Mikey ont Canada 🇨🇦
The other thing is people pulling large trailer over4.600 kg or 10.300 lbs don't know have to have an endorsement don't have it have a wreck you have no insurance, I understand some States have same thing
Ya don't use breaking 😅
I used to be all about American made vehicles, until i had a ford explorer for a decade, Now I am all about Toyotas. I would only buy an American truck if it were a diesel.
I would only buy Ford if it was one of the fleet vehicles. Basically that is the F and E series.
I downshift a passenger car going down steep grades. It blows my mind that people are out there driving RV’s with no concept of downshifting. It’s mind boggling
Well on my truck setting the cruise control will hold me at that speed even going downhill
Damn... mine won't passed 6%.
Thank you for the critical advice!
Thanks for watching!!!
We just finished filming THE LAST OF US.. season 2 and jackson hole is a huge part of it
SPOILER ALERT!! lol.... you must live here in the Lower Mainland?
Change/flush your brake fluid every 2 years!!!! Brake fluid absorbs moisture! Brake fluid with a high moisture content will boil when it gets very hot! It turns into a vapor from a liquid, vapor cannot be compressed and the pedal goes to the floor. I was in the auto repair business for 50 years.........I'm speaking the truth here.
The general rule of thumb is that you should be going down the mountain at the same speed and in the same gear that you climbed up the mountain. The engine and transmission should be holding the vehicle back to the point that you only need to surge break a few times while going down the grade (maybe 3 or 4 times). You really need to know what you're doing when mountain driving with an oversize/high profile vehicle. If you have never driven a large vehicle and are new to RVing, and don't have a clue, then formal driver training is highly recommended to avoid a catastrophic accident. I formerly held a Class A CDL so that was my formal training and mountain driving with a heavy load is not something to take lightly.
First if you're towing, make sure your tow vehicle is rated, even over rated for the load.
6:28 “Walkabout” is Australian, because “Walkabout” is a reference to Australian Aboriginal Culture and the Man with a Spear is Aboriginal as well.
Maybe they should put in Jake brakes (engine brake system) in all class A vehicles.
Agreed
At 9:20 mins you called a, uh, camper, an M.C. Escher. Sir, you referenced my favorite Artist. Thank you, I haven't heard his name in a while.
At 10:00 mins you give a hats off salute to the American Flag Van. Again, thank you from a fellow North American, your all right.
At 10:30 mins The Big White Ford, I'm there with you. If you know proper maintenance old Fords will prove their worth. Very cool.
Overall, your depiction of the Road Warriors are spot on. From STL, MO USA and a new subscriber.
Good show
PS I to live in Oregon and watch Casey all the time 👍
He's a hoot. So easily angered!!
Do yourself a favor... "Murphy's Diesel" Good tow channel. Good dude.
Very nice video thanks 👍
Thanks!!!
4:58 the thingw was booted to lol
Thank you‼️
at 3:52 that's a Tiffin, probably min of $500K, and likely over $800K I bet that insurance company is regretting this one.
5:29 all the way from The Netherlands ❤
breaks are cheap, transmissions are expensive!
DO YOU SHOW CAMPER VAN ALSO. IT IS A LARG COMMUNITY. YOU MITE HAVE A LOT OF SUBSCRIBED. ALL I SEE IS RV
Those huge offroad RVs wont make it on most offroads because theyre too big! Here in colorado everybody drives Tacoma's because they can go anywhere a jeep goes. You get on a narrow mountain road you font want a big road hog.
Agreed as I recently learned driving a Jeep on some FSRs instead of my long wheelbase F150 and I had some much more opportunity, The small trails and deactivated roads will get too small for some of these BUT you can easily travel hundreds and thousands of kilimoeters on gravel roads here in North and West Canada and nearly all those roads are designed for big trucks (timber, oil, coal, copper etc) so these vehicles will payoff. Its also hard to full time across continents in a Tacoma so there is always a tradeoff.
Proper braking on mountain passes - first and foremost - start in a lower gear.
Your brakes are not all in the same adjustment at the same time - some are a tighter fit, some are a looser fit to the disk or drum than each of the other brakes at any given time.
The tightest is the one in the best adjustment. When you "lightly ride" the brakes down a mountain grade you're not saving them - you're heating up/wearing down the one brake in the best adjustment, the others are going to be loose, they have not yet been engaged in the braking of the vehicle at all or at least very little.
As you move forward you find you need more braking and you press a little harder on the brake - now one brake is hot and pretty much useless as the one in the next best adjustment is applied to the light braking of the vehicle; then that one heats up and becomes useless and the same thing happens to the third and fourth brake as well - then you have no braking power left to slow the vehicle. The Teton RV must have had too much speed and/or a combination of not started out in a low enough gear. Proper braking would have reduced the risk of that crash occurring even if there were other problems at the time. To the victims of this crash, I offer my deepest condolences.
In all honesty - I only read about proper braking a few years ago though I watch the other guys and the ones that do not smoke their brakes are never showing taillights all the way down.
Rain or cold may dimmish brake fading but I would never rely on any outside effect on the vehicle when my family's safety is in question. That is why pressing firmly but not excessively for short periods when braking, is the best and the only way to safely descend a steep grade - it engages all brakes at the same time - evenly.
I decide what speed is safe and as the vehicle builds to that determined speed and I brake firmly and for very short periods, maybe 2-3 seconds to decrease my speed by 5 miles an hour each time I slow the vehicle on a grade. I decide the speed based on will I be able to come to a dead stop if I have to going down this grade. No matter your speed it will take all of your brakes to come to a complete stop on a grade - you don't want them hot when you really need to use them.
I agree completely with the author when he states when going downhill, he tries not to use the brakes at all and allows down shifting to carry the burden of braking.
What is a safe speed? If you feel your braking to often you will be uncomfortable, anxious. Slow down right then while you still have brakes cool enough to do so. Trust the pucker factor, it will not lie to you. Also, the amount of money spent on an RV will not make you invincible in the mountains - your braking systems are controlled by the same physics as a compact car or tractor trailer. I have 24 plus years driving commercial vehicles in all weather and terrain conditions. I have "smoked" my brakes a few times over the years, the early years. Smoked? Thats when the dirt and oil on the brake drum or caliper becomes so hot from excessive braking it actually cooks off the dirt, oil and brake parts. The smell of asbestos will be very strong as well - that's the brake pads/shoes burning off. By that time the heat of the brakes fades the braking to nothing at all. If you smell asbestos, you are already in big trouble, stop the vehicle right then if you can.
My family traveled in a station wagon pulling a Yellowstone trailer for much of my youth. I plan to RV again in the next year during retirement.
Here's an example from this past Thursday 10-30-24 at Cabage Pass. Pendelton Oregon is at the bottom of that pass. I scaled in at 77,000 lbs and knowing that pass I selected 9th gear out of 12 gears on a 2024 Freightliner Cascadia automatic - 3:71 rears I believe That grades 6% area begins where the Scenic Overlook merges back into I-84. Above that point it's a bit steep so I reduced my speed from 65 mph to 55 mph; but it shallows out just before the Scenic Overlook. At the shallow area I braked down into 9th gear from 11th. The engine brake was already set to the 3rd and highest level and my RPM's were right at 2,100. I traversed the entire pass without using any braking running a steady 47 MPH. I traversed Sherman Summit the day before - Laramie Wy is at the bottom of that pass. I pressed firmly on my brakes three times for 2-3 seconds and lost a couple of hundred RPM's and 5 mph each braking. I started out a bit faster at the top since that is a 5% grade. I did not like braking at all.
I hope this was helpful.
Bruce Milne, Portland Oregon
You sure you dont want to hear who I would vote for, I would vote for you. lol
Awwwww "Checks for everyone!!!"
5:00 camping Dutch style 👍
I'm voting for Ford 6.7l
As long as you vote right you aren’t wrong!!!
The rule is. What ever hear you go up on , go down in that gear or one less . To many people don't know how to drive . They drive a car or truck with no trailer then retire thinking their truck drivers now .
I'm a otr truck if you have to use your brakes more than 2 times in a half mile, your going to fast.
Jake breaks is the best
David C treduckin-in great brittain-illegal over here! One trailer only except for showmens vehicles and farm vehicles. Shame really-if it was legal I’d be borrowing another trailer just for the hell of it!
Bro, not a bronco. That’s a scout international. Know your 4x4s.
The only *bad* thing is that I can only subscribe once!
You can always create a second account!!! lol
I love❤ the best FORD RV winner!! 💪🏼👊🏼💯
FORD Tough!
2:00 I was pulled over by Police once for going down a steep grade without using My Brakes.
Mind you when he actually pulled Me over and My Brake Lights came On, he apologised to Me for pulling Me over.
LOL
In the 70’s my parents took us on a camper trip out west. My dad bought a mallard travel trailer,he pulled it with a Cadillac fleetwood. This happened on the Tetons too,we were on the down grade and my dad didn’t know to put it in low so the brakes were smoking ,so my brother gets on the CB and asked for a Smokie report.
I smoked a large rental truck when I was 19 yo so I learned early to gear down!!
If you know, it’s going to damage something that’s removable. Remove the damn thing save yourself 40 or 50 bucks.
NICE
Some people like Fords, other people prefer waiting for a tow truck.
Fornicated Over Rebuilt Dodge
Fornicated Over Rebuilt Dodge.
Some of those pictures of really nice RVs. Where do I buy an RV? Hell no. I'm just trying to quote my attorneys. I like that F-150 with the camper, I think I would consider that.