Playing 50 YEAR OLD cassette tapes!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • I've collected some of the oldest cassette tapes from the 1960s and early 1970s. Do they even still play, and how good (or bad) do they sound? Let's find out!
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  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife  6 лет назад +298

    FYI: The equalizer's spectrum display is not that flickery in real life. That's just a camera effect, exaggerated by iMovie's single field de-interlacing.

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 6 лет назад +8

      You know what really makes that worthwhile? A pink noise signal and a calibrated mic and you can equalize out your whole system to sound as close to a studio as you will ever get. It'll change the way you think about music!

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 6 лет назад +3

      It's like the goofy blinking on traffic lights and other LED signs on dash cam footage. Looks goofy if you're not a digital video nerd and get why it happens, LOL!😉

    • @stpworld
      @stpworld 6 лет назад

      can you show us how to find a pioneer like yours an ebay link in description and I recently got back into cassettes 2 years ago I even got a cassette deck put into a 2015 car the kind with a touch screen were you wouldnt normally have one also have you ever repaired a DAT tape so far none of mine have ver had an issue excpet for one and the tape wont move at all im afraid to open it up by the way I subscribed with notifcations on

    • @siliconinsect
      @siliconinsect 6 лет назад

      Whoa... I'm rocking a nearly identical system with the EQA-10 TEAC equalizer and a Pioneer CT-W404R dual deck.
      Sweet video as usual!

    • @canturgan
      @canturgan 6 лет назад +2

      You might be getting flickering because of the shutter speed and the Hertz. In the UK it should be 1/50th sec (50Hz power supply) and in the US 1/60th sec (60Hz). LEDs are notorious for flicker which sometimes can't be eliminated in camera..

  • @retrogaminggenesis6102
    @retrogaminggenesis6102 4 года назад +180

    "Cassette tapes last upwards of 30 years"
    *I turn around to find half my library has turned to dust

    • @PkmariO64
      @PkmariO64 4 года назад +19

      “Mr. Stark, I don’t feel so good.”

    • @laserkahn5444
      @laserkahn5444 3 года назад +8

      Hahahahahahahaha...... So good.... My oldest tape is from 73 and my 8 year old brother listens to it all the time (I copied it onto a newer cassette of course....)

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 Год назад

      @@laserkahn5444 That was wise of you to make a copy.
      Probably the perception of cassettes lasting 30 years is the amount of replays the cassette gets.

  • @the66volks
    @the66volks 6 лет назад +327

    My mother recently gave me all of her cassettes that she recorded in 1968 to 1970 they all play perfectly well with no distortion at all!

    • @thepostalteenager2206
      @thepostalteenager2206 4 года назад +6

      What types of cassetes your mom has?

    • @thesherlockhound
      @thesherlockhound 4 года назад +11

      She must've taken great care of them.

    • @expgretaillegacy
      @expgretaillegacy 3 года назад +3

      Thats cool! You still got them??

    • @jacobjb
      @jacobjb Год назад +4

      Yeah it seems like tapes can last a lot longer than the popular estimation when kept well.

    • @mygingercat2002
      @mygingercat2002 Год назад +1

      I've just bought a cheap radio cassette player to see if and how my old tapes will play.
      They're quite distorted and low volume but I've been ff and rewinding them to see if it helps as some parts don't play.

  • @verastaki
    @verastaki 5 лет назад +75

    I got tapes as old as 1968, and they still play and sound fantastic. Been playing my tape collection since I was a kid and they still sound great. Tapes do last a very long time. That's why they still remain my #1 choice for music. Plus over the years I collected so many different types and styles of them. Cassettes are awesome.

    • @bradleymccreary2223
      @bradleymccreary2223 2 года назад +4

      Excellent, same with me. Started collecting casette recordings from 1968 as well. My 2004 Rover and 2005 Citroen were equipped with CD and casette players- the CD players dont work but the casette players are fine ( touch wood!)

    • @Stas922
      @Stas922 2 года назад

      I also have a lot cassette tapes in my desk. when I have time I play one by one.

    • @vHindenburg
      @vHindenburg 2 года назад +1

      For that reason casette tapes are still used at banks to store data.

    • @georgemueller9681
      @georgemueller9681 Год назад

      Cassette tapes from the '60 do not sound very good. Maybe you should have your hearing checked.

  • @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
    @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 6 лет назад +117

    Holy crap, that sounds good from that old cassette at the end.

    • @brijlal973
      @brijlal973 5 лет назад +13

      That deck has analog to digital converter. It then processes the sound, removes hiss, corrects tonal balance and much more. Finally it converts digital signal to analog before giving the output. Just check the model details over the net.

    • @jacobg6528
      @jacobg6528 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@brijlal973reddit brain at its finest

    • @tridi3d911
      @tridi3d911 5 дней назад

      ​@@jacobg6528fr

  • @jeromeglick
    @jeromeglick 2 года назад +13

    I was blown away by your demo of recording onto the blank 50-yr-old tape at the end. Great choice of music with ample high-frequency energy and detail. I did not expect such crisp reproduction! It really goes to show that the characteristic "dull tape sound" has less to do with the tape itself and more to do with the source signal, the equipment used to record and play it back, and of course, azimuth alignment!
    The main bottleneck in fidelity for those 1960s/70s pre-recorded tapes was the practice of many overdubs in production (because 32-track machines weren't available at the time) and of course multi-generation dubs from the master down to the cassette release. Today we take for granted the ability to make endless digital copies with no fidelity loss!

  • @monaural2.988
    @monaural2.988 6 лет назад +21

    As a lifelong tape collector & aficionado, thank you so much for this insight. I'm getting so sick of the format wars overall, so many people claiming "This or this or THIS is what you should be reaching for if you want to honestly hear music". Well, I've got news for ya, bunko; NOTHING really is indestructable. Everything from the very first Edison cylinder to whatever you're streaming out of your computer can become garbage if you have zero brain matter on learning the twin bugaboos of STORAGE & HANDLING. Like Stevie Wonder once sang; "Do Yourself a Favor....Educate your mind".

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 6 лет назад +29

    I remember that my father used to buy BASF cassettes (early 70's) to record audio diaries for us kids when he was away on deployment. They used to have the first type plastic boxes, but they were clear. Brings back old memories! I think the tapes sounded exactly like I remember. Dr. Demento was my go-to party listening! Can't forget King Biscuit Flower Hours either!

    • @SilentKnight43
      @SilentKnight43 4 года назад

      I used BASF (chrome dioxide) when I was quite young...then as I got older and had a bit more money I started buying TDK SAX in bulk (10-pac boxes). But over the years I tried dozens of different brands...sometimes found some great quality brands that were in the cheapie bin, too.

    • @bradleymccreary2223
      @bradleymccreary2223 2 года назад

      We did the same when dad was away on TDY etc or isolated tour of duty.

  • @Mista_Spicy
    @Mista_Spicy Год назад +2

    I think I have a cassette player thats 40-50 years old. Just tried it again today and it STILL WORKS!!!!

  • @cigarobsession
    @cigarobsession 6 лет назад +63

    Holy crap I remember the snap cases when I was a kid but completely forgot about them!

  • @lukasgayer5393
    @lukasgayer5393 11 месяцев назад +4

    That Norelco cassette blew me away! How sweet and mellow it sounds!

  •  6 лет назад +232

    I actually loved the music you tested here!

    • @olliebeak131
      @olliebeak131 6 лет назад +8

      Me too!

    • @gordonmallinson1236
      @gordonmallinson1236 6 лет назад

      Jax Nean we

    • @rich_edwards79
      @rich_edwards79 5 лет назад

      Me three!

    • @neilmansfield8329
      @neilmansfield8329 5 лет назад +2

      Jax Nean
      This is good music.These tapes want
      remastering and re issueing so they save the music and the tapes.

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +2

      I thought it was just me that liked this music (I even liked when I was a teenager even though it was considered "uncool").

  • @fueledbymusic3
    @fueledbymusic3 6 лет назад +23

    I own cassettes I recorded in 1981! They still sound as good as the day I recorded them!!!!! 37 years old!

    • @superlink235
      @superlink235 4 года назад +3

      Hey Gil! Good to see you on other channels I enjoy! King of the retro!

  • @Vakito227
    @Vakito227 6 лет назад +23

    Oldest cassette I own is from 1968 and I still play it regularly in my car. Sounds great, not as good as cassettes from the 80s and 90s but still very decent quality.

  • @PiddeBas
    @PiddeBas 6 лет назад +21

    The recording of Anders song on that 50 year old tape was flawless! Amazing

    • @katho8472
      @katho8472 2 года назад +4

      The 8-Bit-Guy theme song (extended version) ;)

  • @Evan420
    @Evan420 6 лет назад +4

    I bought a Who cassette tape in one of those weird cases. I assumed it was a bootleg of some type, but now I know that it's just an older cassette. Amazing!

  • @evilgrows
    @evilgrows 6 лет назад +7

    If anyone cares to know, the reason that there are many Cassette Tapes from the mid to late 1970's and early 80's that will not play and "severely slow down, screech & squeal" and are UNplayable is because they started using a certain inferior binder in the tape oxide that absorbed moisture over the years (which it is not supposed to do) and now renders the tapes completely unplayable. This also caused the named "Sticky Tape Shedd Syndrome". This does not usually affect prerecorded Cassettes from 1966 (when they first were issued by Philips/Mercury) till about 1978 or so... Then around 1984 they seem to still play right, as they discovered this "bad binder" and corrected the problem of it absorbing moisture... This problem may have given Cassette Tapes a bad rap and people saying that they won't last or only play for 30 years? (lol) But as shown in this great video presentation, Yes the real old early cassettes still can play fine - as well as later 1980's and 1990's ones! If they had not used that bad binder, most ALL pre-recorded Cassettes would still play fine to this day.

  • @kharakim
    @kharakim 6 лет назад +40

    The tapes I recorded (from new vinyl) on a three-head Nakamichi nearly 40 years ago still sound top-notch today when played on my current Nak. Even early pre-Dolby commercial tapes sound very good.

    • @barthonhoff5547
      @barthonhoff5547 6 лет назад +2

      Moshe ben Asher My first tapes from the late 60’s from a stereo deck still sound great on my Nak’s as well.

  • @Bob_C
    @Bob_C Год назад +17

    Even though this is a relatively old video, I wanted to make a comment about survivability of old cassette tapes. I have a number of cassette tapes I had purchased back in the early 1970s that still play just fine on my deck. Sometimes the leader can break where it joins the tape, but it's quite easy to repair. Just yesterday I was listening to a recorded cassette letter my girlfriend had mailed to me in 1971, while I was serving in the US Navy. My girlfriend and I used to send each other letters on cassettes during my deployments. I decided to digitize that recording onto my Zoom H6 handy recorder, just in case the tape craps out in the future. That tape had been stored for 51 years until yesterday. All my other old cassette tapes from that era play just fine. Of course the really cheap cassettes that people may own would probably not last that long, especially if they are played a lot or stored wrong. By the way, I should have asked that same girlfriend to marry me back then, but life got in the way. I wish I had. She was quite a lovely young lady. It was great to hear her voice again, even if it was only a recording. But I digress.......

    • @superblindeye1
      @superblindeye1 8 месяцев назад +3

      Your comment is something. My grandparents used to do this with my aunt and uncle in the 1970s and '80s. My aunt recently digitized them, and it has been quite a trip to listen to. It really provides a time capsule of a different time.

  • @Tomsonic41
    @Tomsonic41 6 лет назад +48

    Wow, and I thought I had an old cassette... full of radio recordings made in 1978 that still plays perfectly today. This collection puts it to shame though!

    • @genericfirstnamegenericlas6490
      @genericfirstnamegenericlas6490 6 лет назад +3

      I'd recommend digitizing a back-up. Just in case the tape gets damaged.

    • @jeromeglick
      @jeromeglick 2 года назад

      At a record shop once I picked up a bunch of radio recordings made on cheap cassettes. When trying to play one, the leader immediately broke off at the splice point. Since the cassette shell didn't even have screws, I had to carefully break it open with a screwdriver then re-splice the tape back to the leader before transplanting the reels to a spare shell! But in the end I was rewarded by being able to hear WMAL's "Music Free Hour", an hour-long compilation of back-to-back commercials (some dating to the 1930s) voted in by listeners. As of this writing Google only pulls up two results regarding this rare 1981 stunt.

  • @mrflashport
    @mrflashport 6 лет назад +110

    The cassette is an example of technology that excels because of it's simplicity. The 1980's and cheapo boomboxes are what stained it's reputation as a serious music format. Despite advancements like Dolby S, DSP like your Pioneer, and simpler and cleaner transports, it's time was up when digital came into widespread use.
    I do find it amazing how your new VERY OLD STOCK Norelco can sound so good. Let's see how a 20 year old CD-R will be in another 10 years, if there is anything left to play them! that's where cassettes are still viable today: plenty of playback equipment in circulation and cassette players are still in current production. BTW like many I have 30-35 year old cassettes, some pre-recorded but most I've made, and hundreds of plays later they still survive and sound pretty damn good.

    • @diggydude5229
      @diggydude5229 6 лет назад +5

      Not just boomboxes, but Walkman-style personal stereos. Being able to carry a lightweight audio system on you was a huge boon for cassettes.

    • @kanalnamn
      @kanalnamn 6 лет назад +5

      My oldest CD-R records (Maxell Gold) still play fine now, after 21 years. But they have been stored out of the light. I stored a printed cd outdoors (but not in the rain or the sunlight) for twenty years here in Sweden, almost nothing was readable with EAC.

    • @juanfebresc
      @juanfebresc 5 лет назад +4

      My exact thoughts on the Norelco tape. Either the formulation was excellent (assuming it is a normal bias) or the Pioneer Deck auto Bias calibration is that good (or both!). A tape that can go higher than 12 KHz at that time was ridiculously Hi-Fi!

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +3

      I had a Walkman-type recorder with a built-in radio back in the 90s. I was happy that I got it (especially that I could record off the radio while on the go)...until I realized that the recorder part was garbage. The radio and playback were fine, but recordings made on it sounded like I recorded a transistor radio through a telephone.

    • @jark9705
      @jark9705 4 года назад

      @@rricci dc bias i guess...

  • @CeeStyleDj
    @CeeStyleDj 6 лет назад +345

    I'm curious to the mentality of the 14 people that thumbs down this video. No seriously, why would you thumbs down the video? It was made well, it wasn't rude, it didn't make any outlandish claims. It's just review of old cassette tapes and their cases and also how they still play.

    • @arifakyuz7673
      @arifakyuz7673 6 лет назад +31

      I guess they are salty about VWestlife’s other supposedly rash claims regarding turntables.

    • @CeeStyleDj
      @CeeStyleDj 6 лет назад +3

      Arif Akyuz I'll have to catch up to that one. You may be right.

    • @stp22
      @stp22 6 лет назад +45

      Because they are bitter ignorant nasty jealous envious beings, I agree with you how could you thumb down this excellent video. People are generally ignorant dumb beings, unless educated they wouldn't understand a video like this

    • @bojohanconstantlyconfused1386
      @bojohanconstantlyconfused1386 6 лет назад +21

      CeeStyleDj There are thumbs down because when I looked at the "50 years ago" and realized that I remember some of these and that was the 60's!!! .....50 years ago should be like, 1930 or something.....lol just kidding, people are doody heads, that's why!

    • @devonnewest7990
      @devonnewest7990 6 лет назад +3

      CeeStyle, thank u!!!! I always wonder these things too. But you said it perfectly.

  • @SuperFrankieOSX
    @SuperFrankieOSX 2 года назад +2

    I have several older tapes, as long as you store them properly and care for them (as with every format) they will last!

  • @grantross2609
    @grantross2609 Год назад +3

    fixing pressure pads & the coppery hinge things they rested on could be a nightmare often involving prizing open the whole shell !
    great sounds here tho for sure.....
    cassettes were / ARE so nice when they play well on a top machine !

  • @tn0wl361
    @tn0wl361 6 лет назад +125

    I just remembered that the Black Sabbath - Paranoid tape that I just got is almost 50 years old. Goddamn.

    • @PassCookie
      @PassCookie 5 лет назад +3

      only because that album came out in 1970 doesn't mean that the cassette were produced in that year.

    • @nocturnaldivision
      @nocturnaldivision 5 лет назад +4

      Paranoid came out on cassette in 1970

    • @chevycaprice87
      @chevycaprice87 4 года назад +4

      If that cassette in 1970's snap-case, its really first release.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 4 года назад +2

      I have Black Sabbath Paranoid on 8-track. Plus pretty much all the rest of them. (Master of Reality etc. )

    • @mhmrules
      @mhmrules 4 года назад +1

      My record store has Fireball by Deep Purple in the slip case.

  • @freibier
    @freibier 6 лет назад +126

    The greatest thing (as an old guy) about getting back into tapes is going through that box of old cassettes and finding out what you recorded on them 30 years ago when you were young. All those feelings coming back ("oh yes, that was the tape I recorded for that party where I met that one girl" etc.).

    • @bryanotero123
      @bryanotero123 6 лет назад +1

      freibier XDD

    • @jamesprivet
      @jamesprivet 5 лет назад +1

      freibier tru dat!

    • @RogerAxyz
      @RogerAxyz 5 лет назад

      Yessss!

    • @philbertchow5425
      @philbertchow5425 5 лет назад +4

      I am only 37 years old and I did that today, just sitting in my car listening to tunes from 20 years ago.

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +2

      Those feelings can go both ways. How about that song that brings up bad memories, like a former love that broke your heart or a former job where you had to hear that song over and over?

  • @KaidoFujimi
    @KaidoFujimi 6 лет назад +36

    when you asked "Okay Google" at the beginning of the video, my google home, my phone, and my tablet proceded to answer! LOL. Great video. Very informative.

    • @Nookdashiddole
      @Nookdashiddole 6 лет назад +1

      KaidoFujimi I have been known to walk along the train going OK google to screw with peoples phones.

    • @evilgrows
      @evilgrows 6 лет назад

      My Amazon Echo (Alexia) does that whenever she hears her name or similar sounding phrase from TV, etc...

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 3 года назад +3

      I'd be terrified with that much google I'm my life!

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 6 лет назад +7

    VWestlife
    The quality of the sound on the 1964-65 Philips Norelco cassette is amazing!
    Also shows that the media can hold up nearly perfectly if stored correctly.

    • @peterlamont647
      @peterlamont647 6 лет назад +3

      watershed44 I think that 30 year guideline is worst case. Like say if you live in a desert and store them in wild swinging temperatures. I have seen cases of digital data being pulled from cassettes that are 40 years old with no issues. I have also seen tapes that became sticky due to bad storage, like excessively hot climates with no temperature control.
      These same people say disks last about 7 years...but i myself have read disks over 30 years old which work just fine. In fact, i make use of writing on them as well, and they store the data just fine. Even magnetized media can be degaussed and used again. The storage density is so low on those that i would be amazed if they didn't work 100 years later and beyond.

  • @blester76
    @blester76 6 лет назад +5

    A most interesting video. Much of the music reminds me of what I played when I worked at an "easy Listening" FM station in the late 60's. Also was very impressed at frequency response when recording the old tape on the modern machine. Great job VWestlife.

  • @dustingibson9078
    @dustingibson9078 6 лет назад +9

    I like that little nod to The 8-Bit Guy there. Also, it's as much for the dry humor as it is for the content that I watch these videos.

  • @ukrpgfan4029
    @ukrpgfan4029 6 лет назад +33

    Will you be doing another video in 50 years time to see if it still works and sound good?

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  6 лет назад +18

      Maybe!

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +4

      How about a video 50 years from now to see if RUclips videos have held up good?

  • @mikeangelo6667
    @mikeangelo6667 6 лет назад +2

    I have over 300 cassettes, some prerecorded and many of which I recorded from vinyl. They still play fine, and I could NEVER fall asleep to the 101 Strings Orchestra.

  • @paulblackman8159
    @paulblackman8159 2 года назад +12

    For comparison I listened to a digital Amazon music copy of the Hank Williams song you played. And apart from the warm thick bass you usually get on a type 1 cassette, I don’t think it was any better or worse. In fact I think whoever mixed this for the cassette did a very good job doing the EQ.

  • @matthewrichards88
    @matthewrichards88 6 лет назад +9

    Hey vwestlife. Wonderful demonstration. I have a Phillips demo musicassette from 1965(it isn't in the best shape, but I kept it as it has a booklet and info). I 100% agree, cassettes can last 50+ years and more.

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan 6 лет назад +54

    Tom Jones was always underrated.

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +1

      One of my mom's favorite songs was "Delila". I wsent on Wikipedia to read about that song. If you like that song, I don't recommend reading the Wikipedia article.

    • @dm95422
      @dm95422 4 года назад +1

      @@rricci I think you meant "DELILAH".

    • @rricci
      @rricci 4 года назад +1

      @@dm95422 I knew Imisspelled that title. TY, dm9542

    • @petrisalonen4893
      @petrisalonen4893 4 года назад +7

      Tom was never underrated here in Europe where he's regarded a true Legend (even in my Finland) And he's still touring... nothing's stopping him👍His voice is in a class of its own.

  • @LightTheUnicorn
    @LightTheUnicorn 6 лет назад +20

    Very impressive, they seem to have held up almost perfectly in terms of playability and holding the recordings. That blank tape at the end as well, extremely good! The fact that even though little bits broke off but you were able to repair them so easily is just one of the things that makes me love this format.
    And hey, I see you picked up a smartphone too. You'll be posting all the great thrift store finds on Instagram before you know it ;)

  • @matthewpalmer9820
    @matthewpalmer9820 6 лет назад +14

    Despite the stereo overdub, Hank was definitely my favorite part of the video.

  • @StudioF
    @StudioF 3 года назад +2

    Im so impressed by the quality of those 50 year old tapes. i have CD' s that sound crappy compare to these tapes. Great video.

  • @SilentKnight43
    @SilentKnight43 4 года назад +13

    I still have a Philips cassette I recorded as a kid in 1972 - holding a microphone to a speaker at the time. Still works. That's my oldest recording. I still have literally thousands of cassettes I recorded throughout the 1980s. They've been mostly stored in a very dry, cedar-lined room with almost no humidity.

  • @SadMadWolf
    @SadMadWolf 6 лет назад +1

    I bought a Panasonic RX-C36 boombox yesterday at Sunrise with a cassette player, and then I bought ten cassettes at another Sunrise. I'm genuinely impressed with the audio quality--the boombox sounds great for its size and the sound quality of the cassettes is crisp. There's also the benefit that ten cassettes cost $1. Thanks for making me look into cassettes, I'm going to have to build myself a collection.

  • @dunebasher1971
    @dunebasher1971 6 лет назад +35

    As long as they've been kept in dry conditions at a relatively stable temperature, audio cassettes (and reel-to-reel tapes) will last indefinitely. In fact the older the tape, the more likely it is to be of a higher-quality formulation that will last longer.
    I've got cassettes from the late 60s that still work just fine, and reel-to-reel tapes from the 1950s that still sound perfect.

    • @HazeAnderson
      @HazeAnderson 6 лет назад

      "I've got cassettes from the late 60s that still work just fine" but they sound like wooOOOOOoooo woooOOOOooo

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 6 лет назад +4

      Natural Mystic: If your tape player has a working counter it's easy enough to find a song using the card that comes with a tape. Most usually show the start times for each song.

    • @jackfetter
      @jackfetter 6 лет назад +6

      They won't last indefinitely, the magnetic particles on the tape are continually fighting to return to their natural state of alignment, which is dictated by the magnetic properties of the tape and field around the tape (Earth). That combined with the fact the tape touches the head each time it's played, the medium itself is also slowly degrading. Never play it, it will certainly last longer but those magnetic particles are on the move no matter what! Time is the enemy!

    • @Thelango99
      @Thelango99 14 дней назад

      @@HazeAnderson That is most likely on your player, not the tape.

  • @dougr.8653
    @dougr.8653 4 года назад +1

    I've got a cassette tape of the singer Manolo Otero made in 1975 and it sounds nice even after 40 years. Good video.

  • @geotechmore8855
    @geotechmore8855 6 лет назад +113

    Just playing Hank Williams is enough to get a thumbs up from me 😀.

    • @exileonfanninst
      @exileonfanninst 6 лет назад

      I've never heard that version of Why Don't You Love Me

    • @banjoplayingbison2275
      @banjoplayingbison2275 5 лет назад +1

      Same here!!!

    • @buckfiden6227
      @buckfiden6227 5 лет назад +1

      The only good tape in the bunch.

    • @joelake7986
      @joelake7986 4 года назад +2

      Very impressed by that. I knew these overdubbed recordings existed, but the entire idea seemed completely sacrilegious to me, but now that I've heard some of it, wow, it's like Hank lived on and 10 years later went into a studio to re-record some of his classics with Nashville's best. Now I have to try and track down a copy.

  • @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
    @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 6 лет назад +11

    What an amazing theme music you chose for the test recording ;-)
    (y) Definitely approve of 8-bit guy stuff!

  • @hankfanhankfan7815
    @hankfanhankfan7815 3 года назад +8

    Hank Williams' Greatest Hits would have been at the earliest 1968. I don't know if you're familiar with him beyond the basics, but in 1968 MGM started overdubbing albums that had previously been in mono so as to tout them as being in stereo. The mono LP would have been issued in 1963. That sounds amazingly good. I enjoyed the Dean Martin as well-Jim Reeves did an excellent version of that song.

  • @20035079
    @20035079 6 лет назад +52

    why would anyone fall asleep listening to 101 strings? honestly they sound good

    • @rricci
      @rricci 5 лет назад +3

      People fell asleep NOT because the music is "boring", but because it was relaxing.

    • @jacobbellwood6184
      @jacobbellwood6184 5 лет назад

      I have a couple of these tapes and haven't fallen asleep yet

    • @bumblesby
      @bumblesby 5 лет назад

      Love 101 Strings. I have collected several LP releases!

    • @christianjohnson7228
      @christianjohnson7228 5 лет назад

      I have one of those tapes. Was it a series?

    • @deanfarr3249
      @deanfarr3249 4 года назад

      Those tapes that he is reviewing is older than both my parents 😂

  • @12voltvids
    @12voltvids 6 лет назад +67

    I have a 50 year old 8 track tape still plays.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids 6 лет назад +8

      Bryant Floyd
      It's a loop tape cartridge. Predates prerecorded cassettes. You can see one on my channel and I will be doing a test of an 8track recorder soon.

    • @DrFruikenstein
      @DrFruikenstein 6 лет назад +10

      12voltvids
      Next he'll ask what an LP is.
      I once had a lot of fun explaining cassettes, and my rotary dial desk phone to my niece. The phone rang, and she jumped back, asking "Why'd it do that?"
      Explaining a cassette to someone, who's life is all digital devices, turned out to be easier than I thought.
      I wish I could've showed her the first computer I ever used, with a cassette drive.

    • @DelilahThePig
      @DelilahThePig 6 лет назад +1

      I had a Sam & Dave 8-track which had differently stylized finger grips and the label was very wrinkled. I think it may have been from around 1968.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids 6 лет назад +3

      I have a computer that uses cassette tape. It is a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A probably still works if I can find all the cables for it.

    • @DrFruikenstein
      @DrFruikenstein 6 лет назад +1

      12voltvids
      The first computer I used was a Tandy 4K Color computer.

  • @tjnickles4782
    @tjnickles4782 6 лет назад +3

    I got cassette tapes from 1982 and 1983 and they still sound pretty good even after almost 40 years they still sound good

  • @12voltvids
    @12voltvids 6 лет назад +36

    Those pioneer decks are great. I was given an Elite model to fix. I'm keeping it. Best sounding cassette deck I have heard.

    • @dm95422
      @dm95422 6 лет назад +3

      The Kenwood decks from the early 90's were great as well.

    • @Siri_Sathdamma_Sewhela
      @Siri_Sathdamma_Sewhela 4 года назад

      Very true . They are 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @AnOfficialAndrewFloyd
    @AnOfficialAndrewFloyd 6 лет назад +11

    I have the cassette soundtrack to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Original 60s release. The media still retains a signal. Late 1950s color videotape is also still playable!

  • @samsulummasamsulumma6898
    @samsulummasamsulumma6898 6 лет назад +22

    Wow, dude... I was born in the 70s and still had no idea such cases ever existed...

    • @larrymagee8758
      @larrymagee8758 6 лет назад

      I do remember the old plastic snap cases, but not the cardboard slipcases, with the tray

    • @olliecrow3547
      @olliecrow3547 5 лет назад

      Same here

  • @mcericx
    @mcericx 6 лет назад +4

    that recording at the end sounded awesome. it gets an audiophile approval from me ;)

  • @mazda9624
    @mazda9624 5 лет назад +9

    Not only the audio quality, but the compositions themselves demonstrated here were beyond fantastic!

  • @grod75
    @grod75 6 лет назад +6

    The result of that last test with the Norelco cassette was amazing! Great sound quality for such an old tape! The oldest cassettes that we had at both my family's house and my own place must be not older than 45 years, but those have unfortunately degraded a bit in quality... Actually, I have a batch of cassettes which I got at a thrift store a few years back (at a very cheap price, of course), and I got some Beatles and other rock 'n roll tapes which must be from the mid 70's, but I'm not really sure...

  • @Psythik
    @Psythik 6 лет назад +13

    Sweet nod to The 8-Bit Guy at the end there with that song choice!

  • @davidbutler8096
    @davidbutler8096 5 лет назад +1

    The good thing about playing my old tapes on my Nakamichi...no pressure pad required.
    Enjoying your videos, keep it up.

  • @smeqwack7337
    @smeqwack7337 4 года назад +5

    i forget that 1970 is 50 years ago, my mind still thinks 2000's never moved

  • @tapemaster8252
    @tapemaster8252 6 лет назад +4

    Fantastic video,I own the same tape deck, it needs servicing though, for anyone who reads my comment looking into buying a cassette deck you also need an equalizer to have true hi-fidelity comparable to today's digital sound. I have cassettes that are 30 years old and still sound brand new and recording digital streams sounds as good as open reel machines, happy recordings to all:-)

  •  6 лет назад +176

    8 Bit Guy theme!

    • @andrewdunn4344
      @andrewdunn4344 6 лет назад +1

      ikr

    • @2dfx
      @2dfx 6 лет назад +47

      They're all in cahoots with each other. It's one giant RUclips orgy.
      VWestLife, 8bit, LGR, uxwbill, etc etc

    • @imrustyokay
      @imrustyokay 6 лет назад +30

      2dfx don't forget OddityArchive and TechMoan

    • @Rouxenator
      @Rouxenator 6 лет назад +4

      Sounds awesome from that old tape.

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart 6 лет назад +13

      16:35 Anders Enger Jonson's "Morning Dew" (just for the people in a hurry)

  • @sw2442
    @sw2442 6 лет назад +1

    The air horn so we wouldn't fall asleep...great...these sounds GREAT...I have cassettes that are about 40-45 years old that sound amazingly good...I've been recording stuff since the late 70's that still sound wonderful...

  • @DjZelous
    @DjZelous 6 лет назад +50

    You triggered the ok Google command on my phone! :D

  • @stephendobbins9316
    @stephendobbins9316 6 лет назад +9

    I'll tell you what. That 50 year old Norelco blank cassette sounded great on that tape deck you used in the video. I am so impressed.

  • @Malkmusianful
    @Malkmusianful 6 лет назад +16

    holy crap, what kind of witchcraft did you do on the tom jones tape
    everything else sounded like a standard-stock music cassette from the '80s, but that tom jones one is on FIRE

    • @Malkmusianful
      @Malkmusianful 6 лет назад +6

      as for using the 50-year-old new old stock tape, it ain't that bad. surprised that this sort of sound could come out of a standard first-wave ferric formulation. it sounds like your dime-a-dozen chrome tape.

    • @JohnMorris-ge6hq
      @JohnMorris-ge6hq 6 лет назад +3

      Hal Emmerich.......TOM JONES IS ALWAYS ON FIRE.
      Seriously this what music sounded like before everything was made loud and lifeless with compression.
      Back in the 60's they couldn't cut vinyl any higher than 10 khz. (Later they would learn to heat up the cutting lathe - long story.) And they would filter out the bass below 50 hz.
      It was rumoured that Motown Records back in the 60's used half speed mastering. Don't know if it's true. But their records would go up to 20 khz if it was true. And RCA used half speed mastering on it's classical line. (Can't confirm any of this....Sorry) No cartdrige of the day could track high frequencies above 12 khz. And most needles would jump out of the grove with a lot of low bass or too much bass. So the limited cassettes response of 60 - 10 000hz sort of mimicked the record players of the day. More of a problem now then it was then.
      You want that great old world analog sound? Buy a good turntable and cartdrige. No Ebay! Go to a good HI-FI shop and buy a Project turntable. It will come with a decent cartdrige. ($350 - $600) The staff there will put it together and adjust everything properly. And then start buying records like crazy! Make sure you get a good phono preamp. A nice Project or an Audio Quest. All under $300.
      OR.....
      Go on Ebay and buy compact disks from the 80's and early 90's. These were often straight transfers to digital. No compression or silly Eq.
      Buy an audiophile CD player. You can get a used Moon CD-1 (designed and made in Canada) player for under $650. 8 years ago the Moon CD-1 went for $1700 CAN.
      I own one...Trust me...You will say...I DIDN'T KNOW COMPACT DISCS COULD SOUND LIKE VINYL.

  • @alvarosundfeld
    @alvarosundfeld 4 года назад +1

    One of the best things about cassettes is their reliability. I have great examples of 1960's and 1970's tapes in my collection that play really well, while my five year or so CD-R's are getting rotten.

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper 6 лет назад +25

    I'm always so impressed by your methodology.

  • @roachtoasties
    @roachtoasties 4 года назад +6

    I have many very, very old, 1960's/1970's/1980's cassettes. They're rarely played, but when they are, they play well. Just make sure they're stored in the proper environment. If you leave them in a box in your garage, you can forget about them. VHS tapes are another story. I have a ton of those that are a combination of purchased movies, stuff recorded off the air, and a bunch of movie studio screeners. I don't even bother pulling them out to watch, because more often than not, they're unwatchable, especially the stuff recorded off the air.

  • @EC-of4le
    @EC-of4le 4 года назад +4

    The Tom Jones Proud Mary is enough to make me thumbs up for the video. I still keep coming back watching this montage and inspired me to make a Tom Jones Mixtape
    I love it. Its got that warm fuzzy feeling. Gives me goosebumps.

  • @taketimeout2share
    @taketimeout2share 6 лет назад +11

    You are educating me on stuff I should have known about 40 years ago. I never knew it was called a J card. Please could you, if you have the time of course, do something on VHS stuff. There are a lot of VHS releases of concerts and they are disappearing fast. If you alert people to how awesome they are people might start saving them.Thank you.

  • @DanOConnorTech
    @DanOConnorTech 6 лет назад +10

    That Norelco tape you record on at the end isn't the earliest one. It has removable anti-erase tabs. The original tapes Philips made in 1963 didn't have them either because the first generation EL-3300 recorders didn't have the anti-erase system including the little lever in the back left of the cassette well. The original Norelco Carry-Corder 150 kits from late 1964 included the straight flat-black cassettes without the tabs badged Norelco.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  6 лет назад +2

      Still, it's at least 50 years old. The Compact Cassette logo wasn't as huge on later tapes.

  • @oschiri66
    @oschiri66 6 лет назад +3

    Well done. Tape is much better than its reputation. I have open reels from the 50s still going strong. From my 500 cassette tapes covering 1971 to 1997 only two were not playable. A Philips Superferro from 1976 had some binder problems and a very cheap one left so much oxyde on the heads, that I had to clean them every 30 seconds. Other than that, they all work, although I must admit, that some high frequencies were lost, so I play the Dolby B/C encoded tapes now without Dolby as a compensation. In pop music noise isn't a big problem anyway.

  • @dm95422
    @dm95422 6 лет назад +15

    I hope someday CD's will get the same appreciation as tapes & vinyl does today.

    • @bloxyman22
      @bloxyman22 6 лет назад +1

      They wont as they will all be gone due to disc rot very soon.

    • @dm95422
      @dm95422 6 лет назад +5

      I have a 36 year old ABBA CD that is still in pristine condition. No rots, no skips. It all depends how you take care of them, no matter which medium (ie vinyl, tape, etc.) you store and use. If you take great care of your CD collection, it really should last more than a lifetime.

    • @jackofalltrades9311
      @jackofalltrades9311 6 лет назад +1

      Cd rot is true. I have many cds from the 80's and 90's that have started to rot and I take Great care of my cds So record your cds to cdr Gold. You will have them for a lifetime.😊

    • @charlescampuz5812
      @charlescampuz5812 6 лет назад

      bloxyman22 Just like cassettes, their lifespan depends on the environmental conditions.

    • @computerkid1416
      @computerkid1416 5 лет назад

      They might, what goes around always goes around. However, I think the fact that they're digital and not analog will lessen the appeal a bit. If they do come back in style, it'll be more for the collectability than the sound.

  • @OctavMandru
    @OctavMandru 3 года назад +1

    I purchased Sunday a cassette from 1973, that was kept in worst condition, practically thrown in a box without the case. It is an Elvis P. album from RCA and it sounds incredible!

  • @drloko4013
    @drloko4013 6 лет назад +5

    Thanks for the video. Tape really doesn't get the respect it deserves. I have (almost) the same tape deck, the Pioneer CT-W606DR. I love it. It changed my whole opinion of tapes. My favorite thrift store find is a $0.50 copy of the 1969 tape "The Moog Strikes Bach." I didn't expect much, but I was shocked by how good it still sounds.

  • @Helderhugo
    @Helderhugo 4 года назад +1

    All the tapes sound great. And the final recording too. The tapes were well made after all. And that music sounds good. Nice.

  • @Freakydile
    @Freakydile 6 лет назад +20

    I enjoyed your video... I am planning on contacting and visiting the father of the cassette Mr. Ottens since he only lives a good 40 kilometres from here... He invented the compact cassette tape... Lingering on what questions to ask... He's 91 years old now... Kind regards, Chr.

    • @evilgrows
      @evilgrows 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. Ottens is a genius! I am glad I got to see & hear him on the "Cassette" Documentary that came out recently.

    • @maximilianfischer8899
      @maximilianfischer8899 3 года назад

      @@evilgrows he is gone forever, god bless him, may he rest in peace

  • @juxtaposeism
    @juxtaposeism 6 лет назад

    I just bought a 60€ Braun Atelier C2 tape deck from 1984 fully checked and looking very good. The build quality is amazing and it comes with a horizontal and illuminated slider. Now I can again listen to my cassettes from the late 70s-90s and they sound very good ;-)

  • @DetroitNerd
    @DetroitNerd 6 лет назад +19

    My Google home answered the question 😂

  • @Zaisini
    @Zaisini 6 лет назад +2

    amazing 50 years and no data lost.

  • @andypalm7061
    @andypalm7061 6 лет назад +5

    Impressive. I've been trying to convince folks for years that my old tapes (70's) Maxell,TDK,are still good enough to enjoy. well done.

  • @choonwahyee9101
    @choonwahyee9101 6 лет назад

    Reel to reel tape 's ,cassette's are very cute ,both are very rare ! By now! Never forget! What i see,are what my life's storys !!!! Songs are so fantastic to me !!! My father are died,but,song music are still staying with me

  • @Aussiemarco
    @Aussiemarco 2 года назад +4

    It’s 2:25am and I have to be up at 8am to go to work. BUT I CAN’T STOP WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS!!! So many memories (101 Strings!!! OMG) .... so little time to watch more!!!
    I’m from the generation that made cassette tapes by recording radio shows - so many Saturday nights spent making yet another cassette that was labelled in biro “Best Songs”.
    So long ago, yet all locked away in my memory ❤️❤️❤️

  • @sringjoymondal9377
    @sringjoymondal9377 2 года назад +1

    I have a bunch of sony c 60,90,120 which my grandfather recorded in mid 70s, it has steely dan's do it again,George Harrison all things must pass, saturday night fever etc, still plays perfectly.

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 6 лет назад +16

    IMO, using any type of DSP could be considered cheating; as in, I'd want a 100%-analog signal path for evaluation.

    • @robertosswald5896
      @robertosswald5896 6 лет назад +1

      Well, it is contemporary from the heyday of cassettes, so it isn't quite as if it would be if some more modern processing was applied :D

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  6 лет назад +16

      Remember that you're listening to digital audio that has been compressed by RUclips down to 128 kbps, so you're not going to get a 100% analog signal path regardless of what equipment I was using!

    • @Madness832
      @Madness832 6 лет назад +3

      OK I give you that; but I meant IRL.

    • @excrono
      @excrono 6 лет назад +1

      VWestlife I would have to find it, but someone took the time to perform a detailed analysis of various RUclips audio codecs and their effective frequency response and quality. This aligned with my own observations listening to YT via a spectrum analyzer. If the audio is encoded used OPUS, frequency response is up to 19Khz, roughly the same as a 192 - 256Kbps CBR MP3. VORBIS comes in second. Though I have seen that quality is not always consistent after the transcoding process, especially above 15.8Khz, sometimes the high end is lost, other times it’s left intact. I all depends on the source content.

    • @AKATenn
      @AKATenn 6 лет назад

      even back in the 70s you'd most likely be using an EQ of some kind, even cheaper stereos had some filtering.

  • @allysinmonroe9616
    @allysinmonroe9616 6 лет назад

    Your video s don't make me feel outdated to think of the old technology. . I sometimes tell myself how ridiculously outdated I am always collecting, spending money on buying and playing old nakamichi decks . But after seeing videos like this I want to connect my deck back again . I still use 80's amplifiers today , though they have been given for repairs now . Great video . Your very passionate
    I had this deck by the way . I recorded tapes and was pretty impressed with its quality. I sold it for a song as I had too many decks

  • @ChrisKeySontech
    @ChrisKeySontech 6 лет назад +5

    Winchester Cathedral is just down the road from me. Hank williams tape sound so good!

    • @taketimeout2share
      @taketimeout2share 6 лет назад

      Well I hope it looks different than that shown on the box. Someone said that picture is Milan Cathedral somewhere here and I think he's right. Winchester is awesome. Lucky you.

    • @jmerrell1933
      @jmerrell1933 6 лет назад

      I have a theory of why the Hank Williams tape "sound so good". It does...no doubt. But, it is not the typical Hank Williams recording. The typical Hank recordings are the original ones recorded in the 1940's thru 1952. That cassette has overdubbed recordings recorded in the early or mid 1960's. The record company was enhancing (updating) Hank's music by adding additional instrumentation and remixing/remastering with the advanced equipment that they had in the years after the original recordings were made. So, you are probably used to hearing Hank's original (non-overdubbed) recordings as they are more easily accessible and most frequently played than the one's heard on that cassette. Therefore it sounded different and better. There are purists out there that would rather hear the original recordings of Hank's but I am one who likes the overdubbed versions better in most cases. I know this info cause old Country music is one of the kinds of music that I like and I've listened to a lot of Hank Williams Sr.

  • @danandkiko
    @danandkiko 3 года назад +1

    Really impressive quality when you think what they had to work with back then.

  • @stp22
    @stp22 6 лет назад +57

    Warm analogue sound and music recorded pre computer era is so easy and relaxing to listen to compared to fatiguing modern processed computerised disposable music of today

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 6 лет назад +14

      Stony P Oh, for fuck's sake. Most people who bemoan modern technology would never tell the difference between formats in an ABX test. Old people just need things to be angry about.

    • @JonnyInfinite
      @JonnyInfinite 6 лет назад +8

      Fernie Canto I think he's referring to loudness war more than anything, nothing really to do with 'digital' sound

    • @B1SCOOP
      @B1SCOOP 6 лет назад +7

      While nothing is wrong with modern digital technology, I have to agree something went wrong with industry standards on mixing and mastering techniques. I myself cannot really get into modern mainstream dance music, just because it sounds waaay to crispy, compressed and sterile. Instead I listen to 90s underground stuff, the format doesn't really matter, I enjoy both CDs and vinyls.

    • @mspysu79
      @mspysu79 6 лет назад

      The "Loudness war" started about 1972 on LP's, "toothpaste mastering" AKA extreme dynamic range limiting started about 1975 with LP's in an effort to fit more music onto an LP.

    • @EssenceofPureFlavor
      @EssenceofPureFlavor 6 лет назад

      @@mspysu79 I believe it. You just can't go as far with it on records as digital formats, without having issues keeping the stylus on track.

  • @marcinwilk5718
    @marcinwilk5718 5 месяцев назад

    I am not surprised at all. They were saying the same thing about CDs, DVDs, etc. My oldest CD from 1983 still plays fine, so does my oldest DVD acquired in 1998. That looks like a nice tape deck btw The sound quality is surprisingly good.

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 6 лет назад +5

    That audio quality combined with the right hardware is still *SUBLIME* and tops a lot of cheaply encoded 128kpbs mp3s out there..
    Also got flashbacks to our old commodore c-16 that had a lot of it's games "backupped" on Norelco tapes :o growing up in Holland I guess we had 'em around a lot back in the day.. thanks for the memories :)

  • @shannonm75
    @shannonm75 6 лет назад

    My family had mostly vinyl oldies music. The oldest cassette was the soundtrack from Shogun. As we got older we recorded any vinyl music onto cassette and made a mix variety. My brother had a turnable and a double cassette deck in the late 80s and 90s. I would use it to transfer from one cassette to another, so then I had a great mix like we do with cds today.

  • @joaomarcelobadu
    @joaomarcelobadu 3 года назад +4

    I can hear all these cassettes, the wormth of the tapes just feels like home. Great video, 8Bit Guy intro music detected.

  • @Thepaparazzo
    @Thepaparazzo 6 лет назад +1

    The great collection of tapes and very old!

  • @dgh5223
    @dgh5223 2 года назад +4

    Cassettes came out the decade I was born. I didn’t play cassettes tapes until I got in my teen years in the 80’s. I remember riding in vehicles that had 8 track player in it. I’m glad to see videos of people bringing back all these old things like records, cassettes, vhs. Some are selling for big bucks on ebay. I found a bunch of these old things at a local Restore Habitat Humanity store.

  • @ralfwalter3923
    @ralfwalter3923 3 года назад +1

    I have mix tapes I made for my from 30 years ago and they still sound amazing. Also have many from way before that and also amazing.

  • @FlintG
    @FlintG 6 лет назад +5

    My parents have a huge collection of old tapes I think 30-50 plus years. Its amazing how good they really sound when played on one of those machines!

  • @gavinyoung7085
    @gavinyoung7085 5 лет назад

    I have an original 55 year old quarter inch reel of The Beatles 'Please Please Me'. That thing sounds fricken AMAZING!
    I do have cassettes from the early 80's, through the 90's, and a few modern releases that sound great too.
    I use a Denon DRW-750 dual well deck.

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 6 лет назад +9

    The recording sounds brilliant.

  • @ellijahminogue344
    @ellijahminogue344 5 лет назад

    The oldest cassettes I own are various Weird Al and Dr. Demento tapes. I’m glad to see people still appreciating them, though.

  • @slarson8044
    @slarson8044 6 лет назад +4

    Fascinating video. Thank you for doing this.

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 Год назад +1

    When vwestlife spoke of fast-forwarding the Lawrence Welk cassette to loosen up the reel, it reminded me that with the home-recorded cassettes I have [mainly of music radio airchecks], if they've been unplayed for years, I always run them through the cassette deck at a fast-forward and reverse to _relax_ the tape prior to playing.
    I use an old beat-up cassette deck as the 'mule' to strictly do fast-forward and reverse the cassette tapes prior to playing them on a better quality cassette deck.