@@Mikeh2077 He was probably a Hegemony agent. Subtle as a flaming brick, true, but given that a confirmed high-ranking member of the batarian government tried to drop a goddamn asteroid on a human colony, an action that would have seen them blatantly violate one of the galaxy's biggest laws and thus trigger war against all of Citadel-controlled space, I consider blatantly poisoning human drinks at a bar to be par for the course. Batarians as a rule just don't seem to be all that low-key. Bray seems pretty cool, though, for a pirate queen's adjutant. Probably the only batarian we meet in the entire series that I don't want to shoot in all four eyes.
I bet the hegemony are behind most of the general impression of batarians. My headcanon is that they don't allow anyone "disagreeable" to even leave the homeworld (they are stated as very tightly controlling, after all) and so there are probably millions of batarians who are bunches of fun but keep quiet about it, never get off the planet due to it, or get executed for it. You'd have to be particularly useful, as well as quite go-with-the-flow, to slip the net. Bray seems that way. We never see a female batarian, always makes me wonder if their government's sexist as well, like "it's not a woman's place to be exploring the galaxy" or something like that. Either as an absolute or maybe more of a cultural ingraining, making it so unlikely that we don't see it. Or... it could just be a flaw this trilogy tended to have with alien genders (normally sticking to one just for ease of modelling), and nothing to do with in-universe lore.
@@Torthrodhel I hope in Mass effect 4 the Batarians do a 180 when it comes to their culture. Out of all the species they have the biggest potential for change in mass effect 4 because they were the worst hit and their authoritarian government died I imagine they could become good friends with humanity as they help each other rebuild their planets
You missed neutral ending. If you made mixed responses to Aria she will say that she can't figure Shepard out and that Shepard might be the most dangerous and difficult to read with two different dialoques with different outcomes if we kill or spare Oleg
I thought it was due to the fact that you help the people on Omega (on the little side missions), but at the end say that you don't care if Aria kills Oleg and let her do so. At least, that's how I thought I got the neutral ending. Also, I was a soldier, so I don't think that your class changes anything.
@@Herirra oh ok, then it's a mysterious ending. I thought about the engineer since it's the only class that can save the civilians and deactivate the shields.
I think Aria should've been invitable to Shephard's Citadel DLC party. After reclaiming Omega it could've made for interesting dialogues with Garrus, Liara, Wrex, etc.,
Aria T'Loak : "Thank you for not... interfering. Killing that man was deeply satisfying." Or Aria T'Loak : "I've been waiting to kill that man for months. Walk around with you for a few hours, and I go all soft. You're like a disease."
I personally prefer the paragon ending for this DLC, i liked giving Aria a different perspective and having her think about what Nyreen would've liked for Omega and it's people since it's what she died for.
I feel like even with the renegade path she still understood the value of the citizens thats why either way she says don't fuck with omega she sees them as a whole not just herself and everyone under her
I'm usually very sad and angry that Nayleen had to die, so I go Paragon for Aria becoming more of a leader instead of a dictator, but then I pop a bullet in the general's face because he pissed me off. He didn't deserve mercy for overtaking Omega and hurting people.
Engineer isn't the only one. My soldier Shep was able to deactivate the shields and save the civilians. I just didn't do any of the two renegade interrupts and at the end of the sequence, he figured it out automatically.
That's exactly what I did as a paragade. I spared him because he's ultimately honourable, but opted for the first renegade interrupt to stop him from being a smartass.
@@GTAVictor9128 he's not honourable. He commits atrocities on people in order to turn them into abominations. He always gets the full Renegade treatment by Shepard. Directly in the face
My favorite version is where aria kills him, then tells Shepard “I’ve lived for a 1000 years and you may be the most dangerous and baffling being I’ve ever encountered. I have no idea where I stand with you.” Hearing that at the end amuses me greatly since I play these games chaotic neutral half the time.
yh same I did this after citadel coup and forget at times that we were fighting the reapers it felt like a war vs cerberus as i did a lot of cerberus missions before that like coup,tuchanka bomb,grissom academy,eden prime,benning,cerberus lab etc
@@greasy8394 not entirely just completed the questline and as far as I’m aware Oleg and presumably the soldiers under his command aren’t indoctrinated hell Oleg doesn’t seem to align with the illusive mans MO plus kai lung despite being close to illusive man is still a mercenary and every scene I’ve seen so far he doesn’t seem indoctrinated
There’s a neutral ending where she calls you the most dangerous being she knows because she can’t figure you out. I’m not entirely sure if there’s a specific order or way to get that outcome.
I got that ending and I’m pretty sure you just have to use both paragon and renegade dialogue somewhat equally. Not giving into aria entirely but not not opposing her too much either.
I always did renegade walkthroughs because I liked the kiss at the end 🤣 but lately I like to play neutral where she can't figure Shep out, calling her truly dangerous. Makes me think Shepard is one of the few people in the galaxy she knows not to mess with, and I like that because it makes Aria realise Shep isn't one of her minions, she's not going to just bend over backwards for her and do whatever she wants.
I always spare him. Both because I'm as close to 100% a Paragon player as possible. And because as Kandros says, he keeps his promises. It would be a different matter if he didn't keep his word, say executing the Talons who surrendered. Its clear though he conducts war as honorably as possible. So that means he ought be spared. Honor for honor. Mercy for mercy.
I always kill him. Hes forcing Sheppard to waste extremely valuable time, and resources during a war to end all wars. You have the fate of the entire galaxy at stake. And this dude is more concerned about taking over a space station vs helping the galaxy survive a full on extinction level event. Would throw his butt into a black hole if the game allowed that option. You do not have the luxury of time with an event like this going on. He choose his side. Also I think he is infected by the Reapers in some way. They were all working around Reaper tech. They know what is fully at stake. Yet they want to try, and control them. They were trying to play God.
@@lofivibes3640 Eh...Petrovsky clearly believes he is doing right by humanity. As for controlling the reapers, its the second best option. (Synthesis being the best). The Illusive Man wasn't wrong. He was just unable to actually seize the reapers. Because as starchild said, they already controlled him.
@@bradley8867 Indeed. Though I wish the DLC let you kill her and put Nyreen in charge. Aria is a glorified pirate and gangster. Petrovsky points this out, throughout the DLC-she's in it for revenge and her own petty ambition. Also her rule on Omega was basically letting rival gangs wage war, while the people suffered under their boot heel. Somehow you never get to call her out on this. I guess people at Bioware were fans of Carrie Anne Moss.
Crewmates in Shepard's place when Aria chokes Oleg: Liara: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, takes two paragon interrupts. Samara: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, lectures Aria and takes two paragon interrupts Garrus and Miranda: insist on sparing Petrovsky for intel, take two paragon interrupts. Kaiden: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, takes only one paragon interrupt. Tali: insists on sparing Petrovsky for intel, takes only one paragon interrupt. EDI and Legion: suggest sparing Petrovsky for intel, do not interfere. Mordin: states that Petrovsky might be too dangerous to live, then states that intel might be valuable, contemplates aloud as Aria chokes Oleg. Grunt: suggests letting Petrovsky die on his feet, doesn't bother interfering. Thane: shoots Petrovsky himself to deliver a clean death. Kasumi and Wrex: don't give an damn about Petrovsky fate Zaeed: lets Aria have her goddamn pleasure. Ashley: shoots Petrovsky before he says a word. Javick: calls Aria primitive as she chokes Petrovsky, tells how they handled traitors and rebels in his cycle. Jack: pushes Aria aside and chokes Petrovsky herself.
I dont know about Samara (too much injustice and civilians dead to let him live) and Tali might actually advocate killing him because dead Cerberus is good Cerberus (she might even loan you a grenade to put in his mouth)
@@Dark_Voice hesitated among similar lines about Samara, but Tali is quite calculative, guess she would favor interrogation. After all, Petrovsky is neutralized either way.
You get just as many War Assets if you kill or spare Oleg. It's just that if Oleg is alive, your allies interrogate him and his assets show up in Alien, while if he's dead you find files and the assets show up in Alliance.
Makes feel better shooting him myself, I am playing the original and man, the final fight pissed me off so much, that even though aria spared him, I had the pleasure of putting a bullet in his head personally.
Actually here's a fun thing you missed, if you did a certain side quest for one of aria's people that involves hacking cerberus terminals, then killing Oleg gets you the Aria's Hacker War Asset, which gives the exact same amount of points as Oleg. So the the decision ultimately comes down to the prefered morality.
I was hoping for a Virmire survivor situation, where Shep could choose to save Aria or Nyreen. Whoever you saved would then be the leader of Omega. I couldn't stand Aria, and thought that Nyreen would would be a better leader.
@@AndrooUK That's reasonable. There would be ways around it (Nyreen at the Citadel, One of Aria's lieutenants takes over). It would require a patch of the main game, and some new voice work. If they didn't want to go to the effort, then fair enough.
In Russian fandom, there was a soldier-psychologist who analyzed that game. As he said, "Petrovskiy follows soldier's moral codes, even if in his own interpretation" I agree with him and usually spare Oleg
@@antonbatura8385 for war criminals we have a thing called "trial". Remember the one after WW2. There were many horrible people, but killing them would be equal to losing scientific data. Almost same thing here, Petrovsky knows too much and hasn't done enough shit to be killed right on Omega
If you let aria spare Oleg then you Kim him you still get 30 war assets. Aria’s hackers go to work and get you the intel you need which grants you 30 wars assets for the alliance First fleet
I played this DLC for the first time recently. My ending wasn’t in this video, and honestly, I think it was the best option. I played ParaGade, as I usually do, so I 1) sided with Nyreen most of the time, 2) brought the shields down in time without sacrificing any civilians, 3) let Arya kill Oleg because fuck that guy, and 4) told her she needs to focus on the people and take care of them. She called me weird and dangerous, but in the end she adopted my philosophy and told the people of Omega to exile Cerberus from their home, shifting to Nyreen’s protective stance. Arya gets her revenge, the people are cared for, and Arya’s hacker gave me intel on Cerberus so I didn’t even need Oleg. Everybody wins.
Aria is a lesbian it's clear she once had a fling with that fem turian, it turned me against her,which is why I spare Oleg though I rolled mostly Renegade. I did save the civilians on omega by not hitting the interrupts but,Aria was a boring unlikable character I wanted an ending where Shepard could kill Aria but,that wasn't an option. Omega was imo,the worst ME3 DLC story wise it unlocks 2 Assault rifle and 2 bonus powers + 300 EMS war assets so it's worth it,but once started it has to be played straight through would've been better if you could leave Omega halfway thru then finish it before the Assault on the Cerberus base.
I had no idea there was so much going on behind the scenes in this DLC. The way your actions influence Aria, and all the little things in this, it's all really fascinating! Very different from the Leviathan DLC, but amazing in its own way. Also, Nyreen is an absolute wife.
To me it's always been more about demoralizing Cerberus. Having one of their top guys get splattered might not net assets but it does feel like a swift kick to the Illusive Man's danglers.
I’m here because I like playing the game my way and then coming back to videos like this to see how it could’ve went and to learn all the books and crannies of the mission/game. Which is why I’ll always say content creators like you are some of the most underrated creators on RUclips. Without y’all’s willingness to play through the game, or even use console commands (if you can do that, idk. Still not easy.) I wouldn’t be able to do this. Edit: Also I noticed there was a fair amount of paragon/renegade options throughout the mission. Makes more sense why now.
Biggest disconnect between gameplay and cutscenes imo. Builds them up as super dangerous and super horrifying... only to be weaker than a banshee both gameplay wise and horror wise.
How 'bout Ashley or Kaiden dying from a single shot if you fail to convince them, even though they're wearing full armor? Or those highly trained soldiers in full armor dying from a single shot during the last mission?
Enemies' life bar is a joke in solo mode. Even in highest difficulties. Been beefed up in multi but still pretty low. You should see what a Geth Hunter Infiltrator can do with the Javelin X... But yeah, Nyreen's death was meh. But she always was scared of them so the scene fits the character in my opinion. If it was Aria, she would've Flared the crap out of those Adjutants.
@@GTAVictor9128 It's even funnier when you know that humans can survive for quite awhile, so unless that bullet was a neurotoxin, just bring them to Huerta and doctors'll patch em right up. Yes that's one of my pet peeves. Characters dying instantly.
Theres actually one more possibility! If you choose a mix of renegade and paragon actions throughout the mission, then Aria’s dialogue with you at the end will be more ambivalent. I remember one thing she said was “I still don’t know where we stand”. She also says that in her entire life Shepard is the most “powerful and confusing” being she has ever met. So basically, there’s an in-between option for her dialogue with you in the end if you choose a proper mix of paragon and renegade options in the omega dlc
If you threaten him then let him live you get an extra 30 war assets from his intelligence. Legendary Edition. Not much but I want the most bang for the buck, going in on finishing the game.
There's actually more unique dialog based on three things at the citadel after this. Iff you let her kill him, she respects you. If you kill him she compliments you and If you picked bits of paragon and bits of renegade and let her kill him, she says she is terrified of you. Paraphrasing but essentially she says she can't understand you and has never met a being that was so powerful that she couldn't get a read on and that terrifies her.
I remember getting a dialogue as fem shepar where she interrupts Aria once and then sayd to Oleg "i tried =)" and left it to die... was even more cruel and funny some how
I almost always kill him. The adjetants, death of Nyreen, and the simple fact he's trying to kill us the entire time.....just feels right lol It goes without saying that Aria is by no means "perfect", the devil you know is better than the one you don't, as they say
Nyreen killed herself, trying to kill his enemies is normal and the Adjutants were most likely an order from the Illusive man. I always thought of them as indoctrinated and genetically changed Inusannon like Collectors - Protheans. So, doing experiments on them for the benefit of humanity seems like something TIM would want.
@@Dark_Voice Nyreen did kill herself but because of monsters that Cerberus created. Anyone trying to kill their enemies is normal but you’re obviously the worst of two parties when you’re a part of the group that unjustly took over an entire civilization, meaning those trying to get their home back are clearly in the right by fighting.
A lot of useful info in this video. That said, I treat situations like this (and most others in the game) much the same as I would IRL. That is if a character is not actively trying to kill me, for example shooting at me or my squad mates, I usually let them live. And in the video Aria let him live since the player had a high enough Paragon score. Knowledge is power in any universe.
Man, the animation of Aria kissing then pushing away from Shepard-the way her hands spread out in that "don't come close again" and how she and Shep both awkwardly turn away is hilarious and amazingly well executed. I'm almost tempted to go that route solely to see it again, and I'm not even one of the players who would've iked to romance Aria.
I think the kiss is available only if you go full renegade. However if you go mixed or rather paragon but still let her kill Oleg then Aria comments on how Shepard is probably the most dangerous and powerful being she ever seen as she can never read his/her intentions
I used to spare Petrovsky, viewing the war asset as a sign it was the right thing to do. But on my most recent playthrough, I killed Oleg. Mainly for the Renegade points as I wanted to get the Illusive Man's renegade ending but tend to lean heavily paragon in Mass Effect in general. Now, thinking about it, I believe it's the right call. After World War 2, the US brought home a lot of Nazi scientists, some of whom were war criminals, via Project Paperclip. Yes, that brought us the space program, but it also spared some very disgusting people from trial and execution. I don't want the Adjutants to return again. But I figured the Alliance would take care of that. Then I remembered who we were dealing with and the implication of the Adjutants existence in general. The Adjutants are a Mass Effect equivalent to Resident Evil's BOWs like the Lickers and Nemesis. And they have the ability to turn people into more Adjutants. Although safeguards can be put in place on the nanides Reapers use to turn people into husks (which I'm assuming are the mechanism Adjutants use to infect people), what are the odds that Cerberus put those safeguards in place? This is Cerberus we're talking about. They aren't exactly known for control of their experiments! What Petrovsky did when allowing the Adjutants to be made was basically make an outbreak/pandemic risk. He released a bioweapon on Omega, something you only do if you're crazy, psychopathic or an idiot. A man who would do that cannot be trusted to live. You may ask "well how do you know the Illusive Man didn't order it?" Miranda tells us this herself, in order to safeguard other cells, all Cerberus cells are autonomous and compartmentalized. In other words Petrovsky has the ability to say NO to developing the Adjutants and he did it anyway. We cured the genophage, why would we allow a clear pandemic risk made by Cerberus (who isn't exactly known for their caution or ethics) stand either? And in this case the Adjutants are actually more dangerous than the Genophage. The Salarians make things overcautious and sturdy, their minds are wonderfully agile and things they bioengineer seem to hold up fairly well. (Remember, the Genophage didn't mutate, the Krogan did! Mordin had to update the Genophage to work again!) In addition the Genophage wasn't made with murderous intent, the Adjutants were. All Adjutants need to be destroyed, along with anyone who considers their creation and release ok. They represent a MAJOR outbreak/pandemic risk, but it gets worse. They're Reaper creatures. That means the Reapers could take control of them and said pandemic risk. They could use the Adjutants at a later date to try and fulfill their primary goal, convert or kill all sentient life. If one bite is enough to turn, anyone with weak enough armor is a potential casualty/vector. If physical contact is required to turn (skin to skin) then we're in real trouble. Omega is not the cleanest place in the galaxy, and there's a lot of fighting there, which means a lot of skin to skin contact. Finally, there's the justice aspects of it. If what Petrovsky says is true, he's never going to stand trial for any of this. All the lives lost, all the damage, all the terror, and he gets to walk away? Hell no. Besides that we need to make an example when it comes to bioweapons. Besides other Cerberus cells, the Salarians are more than capable of creating bioweapons. If Petrovsky is killed in cold blood without trial it tells the rest of the galaxy "this will happen to you too. don't make bioweapons. EVER." So I went the renegade vigilante route.
You can disconnect the reactor and spare the civillians if you don't take the two Renegade interrupts regardless of Shepard class. What I did was Aria spared the General and I took the first Renegade interrupt, if the Alluance decides to release him my Shepard will gladly place him on Omega and telling everyone that he is protected so long as he stays in the building.
Definitely agree that you should spare Oleg for strategic reasons and he never goes back on his word. However, in all the times I've played the Omega DLC, I've only ever spared him once in my 100% paragon playthrough. The main reason why I always choose to let Aria kill him in pretty much every one of my playthroughs is because I promised Aria that I would help her get her revenge when accepting the mission and, like Oleg, I keep my promises. Also, the Aria kiss makes it worth it too... especially as Femshep.
Killing Petrovsky lead to 30 point of war asset, named "Aria's hakers", to be added to the First alliance fleet, since a thankfull Aria decide to share Cerberus data she and Braid found. The message on the War asset update says: "Thanks to Aria's hacker, the Cerberus files located in General Petrovsky's Afterlife headquarters were retrieved mostly intact. The encryption ciphers are complex, but Aria has her top technicians scraping the data for anything that may be of use to the Alliance. Key intel on Cerberus activities in Alliance theaters has already been found, providing the forces fighting in those areas a tactical edge. In more heavily encrypted files, valuable threads are emerging that could uncover top-secret Cerberus operations." So there is no differences between sparing and killing him on the War asset point total... no matter what you do you recieve 300+75+30, only difference is where the 30 are added, so is more a roleplay choiche than a score one.
One thing that wasn't mentioned here: If you got all the terminals for the hacker during the DLC, you get the 30 points' worth of intel even if Oleg is dead.
I got the ending in which Aria kissed Sherpard. What can I say ? I guess that even though she's a crime lord, my Sherpard and her have more things in common than what I originally believed.
Technically speaking Aria is not crime lord mainly because of the fact that the things that she does is mainly done in the terminus system and the terminus system doesn't have any rules/laws or any law enforcement at all (except for the people themselves) and all the people who live in the terminus system and omega included all have to solve there own problems unless someone else is involved basically the terminus system is the gray area of mas effect so Aria could do just about anything she wants just as long that the people in the terminus system doesn't band together and rebel against her and plus she owns omega so yeah unless the mean things that she's has done have been done in *insert place that has law's here* (let's say council/citadel space) technically she hasn't broken any laws/rules she more like a renegade/A$$hole queen rather than a crime lord
If you allow Oleg to live, and don't indulge in cold-blooded murder, you gain valuable war assets that may tip the scales in saving the galaxy from annihilation. But if you kill him you get a lil kiss 😘
I love the paragade option! I was playing mostly paragon with my femshep and I just couldn't take it when he decided to run his mouth and thanked me for "influencing Aria" to be merciful, it rubbed me the wrong way, so I threatened him back into his rightful place. Being merciful doesn't mean that you are safe, my femshep will not hesitate to give him back to Aria if need be.
Hey dan, love the Mass Effect videos. I couldn't find if you made this one yet, but can you make a video about Legion's loyalty mission, which is better, rewriting 9r destroying the heretics?
You can find this on the video about how to make peace with geth or in the video about getting the best ending. Dan did these videos . But in resume you should kill the heretics if you pretend to save geth and quarians or if you want to pick the quarian side. Although there are other conditions to make this possible. So if you don’t have this conditions to make peace and decide to side with geth is better to rewrite heretics
What I always try to remember is that there are 'no innocent on omega'. Pretty much everyone is a criminal to some degree, or else they wouldnt be there. Even that quarian kid from ME2, hadnt he come to omega in the first place, he wouldnt have been tricked into owning money to people and being unable to leave. Now it doesnt justify sacrificing people blindly or anything but it does make aria's ruthless way of ruling quite understandable and fair. If she shows weakness, she'll be overthrown and Id rather have HER sitting on top of omega's food chain than some other thug with no morals and dreams of conquering other ships and planets
I just finished playing through Omega for the first time yesterday, and honestly, I'm so... *impressed*, by how strong the roleplaying elements were. The gameplay and level design were pretty great, don't get me wrong, but choosing dialogue and making decisions genuinely felt so natural that it's still kinda throwing me for a loop. It gave me a much deeper insight into how I've been playing Shepard throughout my playthroughs.
“Shepard......save me....I can give you intel on Cerberus and the Illusive man!” Paragon Shep: *Casually smoking a cigarette while Aria chokes general to death*
I was waiting to stop Aria from killing Oleg after what happened to Nyreen. But I was surprised when she suddenly stopped and let him go and imprisoned him I guess? (Or she handed him over to the alliance, I think.) I was shocked to see that side of her, and how she commented that she can't figure me out, and there was something with me like a drug, I suppose. Hahaha, it was amazing when I finally walked out of afterlife while she was giving the speech to the people of omega. Man, it was one hell of a dlc, it was long but it was amazing!
I know I might have asked this for you Dan, but please. Can you make a video about resolving the conflict between Tali and Legion? I'm curious about how many Paragon/Renegade points you need to make peace with one of them, if you have to choose a side.
I was all over the place when I played Omega for the first time. I sacrificed the hospital patients. I took sides with Aria's former lover. My allegiance was so warped that Aria even commented on it saying she wasn't even sure who I truly was. Sometimes I'd indulge her dark deeds and others I'd forcibly rein her in.
If I don't get the full Paragon self opt-out, I just let her kill him. I haven't yet done it myself, as much as it looks fun now I've seen it - thank you! My reasoning is that we just watched Aria massacre all his cronies and I hate Batman Morality - the leader's life shouldn't get more value than his henchmen.
Before I played first time I’d seen a vid of Aria killing Oleg and then kissing Shepard like “thanks for letting me kill him” so I went in like “imma let her kill Oleg and see if she smooches FemShep. But then I’d gone mostly Paragon and Aria just let Oleg go without my help-I was totally blown away. 😳
I personally prefer the more neutral ending. where she says your dangerous and she cant figure you out. The paragon route seems really interesting too. shows how much influence shepard has around people. but with neutral its like you beat aria at her own game. i recently played the legendary edition and depending on the dialogue she almost seems disappointed even a little upset that she cant figure you out or even trust you. which speaks volumes considering the kind of person she is. i mostly play paragon in my play throughs but once i get to ME2 thats when i start changing it up and sprinkle a bit more renegade. keeps my shepard character and certain situations interesting
You forgot a few other scenarios. You can be a mixed alignment throughout the entire mission, and Aria's comments will be based off of whether or not you decided to spare or kill Oleg yourself. And, if you're an Engineer, there's a Paragon prompt that you can take that will make both your squadmates happy, and you can earn a kiss from Aria as a Paragon. And to top it all off, if you're femshep, the kiss will be much longer and more passionate than with male Shepard. This makes sense since Aria very clearly has more of a preference for women in general. Probably the masculine energy and all.
Interestingly enough I got a dialogue that you did not list. I play the shepherd character as if it were me so it is a mixture of paragon and renegade depending on the situation. I let aria kill a leg and afterwords her dialogue comments on how unpredictable I am and that I am the most dangerous man in the galaxy.
1:03 At least on my first playthrough, I eventually gave in, and "choose" to sacrifice those civilians when the 3rd and Final Renegade "trigger" presented itself. As I thought I were taking too long (and/or) Aria & Nyreen couldn't hold out any longer at that point. Plus that "I"/Shepard and aren't as familiar about the station as Aria and/or Nyreen are.
If Oleg ends up dead and if you've done the hacker side quest, (i'm not even sure that you really have to do it) then you will have the hacker war asset that worth 30 points... (you will not have it if oleg is alive) So strategically the fate of Oleg is not important.
Bray just seems like a chill dude. Someone you definitely would want as second in command
Batarians from Omega seem more chill in general, probably because they are not under influence of their government.
@@jarmoksvk
Except that one douche who poisoned your drink in Afterlife.
@@Mikeh2077 He was probably a Hegemony agent. Subtle as a flaming brick, true, but given that a confirmed high-ranking member of the batarian government tried to drop a goddamn asteroid on a human colony, an action that would have seen them blatantly violate one of the galaxy's biggest laws and thus trigger war against all of Citadel-controlled space, I consider blatantly poisoning human drinks at a bar to be par for the course. Batarians as a rule just don't seem to be all that low-key.
Bray seems pretty cool, though, for a pirate queen's adjutant. Probably the only batarian we meet in the entire series that I don't want to shoot in all four eyes.
I bet the hegemony are behind most of the general impression of batarians. My headcanon is that they don't allow anyone "disagreeable" to even leave the homeworld (they are stated as very tightly controlling, after all) and so there are probably millions of batarians who are bunches of fun but keep quiet about it, never get off the planet due to it, or get executed for it. You'd have to be particularly useful, as well as quite go-with-the-flow, to slip the net. Bray seems that way.
We never see a female batarian, always makes me wonder if their government's sexist as well, like "it's not a woman's place to be exploring the galaxy" or something like that. Either as an absolute or maybe more of a cultural ingraining, making it so unlikely that we don't see it. Or... it could just be a flaw this trilogy tended to have with alien genders (normally sticking to one just for ease of modelling), and nothing to do with in-universe lore.
@@Torthrodhel I hope in Mass effect 4 the Batarians do a 180 when it comes to their culture.
Out of all the species they have the biggest potential for change in mass effect 4 because they were the worst hit and their authoritarian government died
I imagine they could become good friends with humanity as they help each other rebuild their planets
You missed neutral ending. If you made mixed responses to Aria she will say that she can't figure Shepard out and that Shepard might be the most dangerous and difficult to read with two different dialoques with different outcomes if we kill or spare Oleg
Yeah, that was my ending too, I guess it also was affected by the fact that I was an engineer.
@@alonsopachecoherrera5687 engineers are the most dangerous and difficult to read people.
Fear them
I think I got this ending once but I thought she always said that. never paid atention on that
I thought it was due to the fact that you help the people on Omega (on the little side missions), but at the end say that you don't care if Aria kills Oleg and let her do so. At least, that's how I thought I got the neutral ending. Also, I was a soldier, so I don't think that your class changes anything.
@@Herirra oh ok, then it's a mysterious ending. I thought about the engineer since it's the only class that can save the civilians and deactivate the shields.
I think Aria should've been invitable to Shephard's Citadel DLC party. After reclaiming Omega it could've made for interesting dialogues with Garrus, Liara, Wrex, etc.,
I'd love to have her as squad mate for more than just that dlc she got some serious biotics my favourite is flare but lash is also pretty good
@@huanhoundofthevailinor2374 At least make her a optional battle arena squad member. She was kinda op though lol.
@@absolutezero6423 that's why I liked her she seems more powerful than Samara I'd love to be able to have her moves for shepard
Although I dunno how many people would be too keen on having Aria as a guest or how many actually trust her.
@@michaelnally2841 Yeah. Unlike the others, Aria is a dangerous biotic criminal with a bad temper. She's more dangerous than Jack or Wrex.
Aria T'Loak : "Thank you for not... interfering. Killing that man was deeply satisfying."
Or Aria T'Loak : "I've been waiting to kill that man for months. Walk around with you for a few hours, and I go all soft. You're like a disease."
I personally prefer the paragon ending for this DLC, i liked giving Aria a different perspective and having her think about what Nyreen would've liked for Omega and it's people since it's what she died for.
I feel like even with the renegade path she still understood the value of the citizens thats why either way she says don't fuck with omega she sees them as a whole not just herself and everyone under her
I'm usually very sad and angry that Nayleen had to die, so I go Paragon for Aria becoming more of a leader instead of a dictator, but then I pop a bullet in the general's face because he pissed me off. He didn't deserve mercy for overtaking Omega and hurting people.
@@assassindancer914 well he isnt heartless and knows when to give up
Playing an engineer during the reactor scene allows you to deactivate the sheilds and save the people.
Engineer isn't the only one. My soldier Shep was able to deactivate the shields and save the civilians. I just didn't do any of the two renegade interrupts and at the end of the sequence, he figured it out automatically.
@@angelcamael7424 same with my infiltrator shep
You get a paragon interrupt if you are an engineer
I don't remember Shepard fucking it up when I played as a vanguard and just resisted all of the renegade interrupts.
Well I just didn’t like that Turian and wanted to piss her off so I just clicked the button
He spared Aria, so I spare him - but I do enjoy using that renegade interrupt to "inspire" his future cooperation with Alliance interrogators!
That's exactly what I did as a paragade. I spared him because he's ultimately honourable, but opted for the first renegade interrupt to stop him from being a smartass.
@@GTAVictor9128 he's not honourable. He commits atrocities on people in order to turn them into abominations. He always gets the full Renegade treatment by Shepard. Directly in the face
But the renegade interrupt kills him!
@@ladyreverie7027
Only the second one.
You can use the first one to threaten him.
@@Shvabicu Nyreen herself said he kept his word and treated Talon Mercs humanely when they surrendered to him.
My favorite version is where aria kills him, then tells Shepard “I’ve lived for a 1000 years and you may be the most dangerous and baffling being I’ve ever encountered. I have no idea where I stand with you.” Hearing that at the end amuses me greatly since I play these games chaotic neutral half the time.
I was just about to reply like this! 😂 Best of the endings
You still get 30 war assets even if he dies, Arias Hacker finds Cerberus intel and passes it onto the alliance.
so then, you are saying it's just a matter of letting Aria do what she wants, or shep and aria rubbing off each other a bit
F RUclips and their comment censorship
I give up making a comment that won't get deleted
@@Shvabicu I feel your pain
It’s stupid he was the best general of Cerberus his information and tactique
Oleg broke Omega's *one* rule: don't f with Aria.
Aria decides his fate.
Mordin be like: well Oleg is nube
Actually, your actions/dialogue influence her decision.
No, my Shepard gets to shoot him. Aria needs to learn to be Paragon towards her people, but Renegade towards enemies
Nah, need the intel he got on Omega as well to keep Aria and her goons in check once the reapers are dealt with
@@Srksius2802 why would you need to keep them in check? They seem very stuck to Omega, very anti-expansionist.
This quest line really makes you forget the entire galaxy is slowly being destroyed by robots
yh same I did this after citadel coup and forget at times that we were fighting the reapers it felt like a war vs cerberus as i did a lot of cerberus missions before that like coup,tuchanka bomb,grissom academy,eden prime,benning,cerberus lab etc
Well it technically is still the reapers considering cerberus are all indoctrinated
@@greasy8394 not entirely just completed the questline and as far as I’m aware Oleg and presumably the soldiers under his command aren’t indoctrinated hell Oleg doesn’t seem to align with the illusive mans MO plus kai lung despite being close to illusive man is still a mercenary and every scene I’ve seen so far he doesn’t seem indoctrinated
Well, the whole point of this is to get Terminus system fleet and army of merc to fight reaper
@@necfreon6259kai leng is indoctrinated (or at early stage at least). Learn this from Thessia’s prothean beacon.
There’s a neutral ending where she calls you the most dangerous being she knows because she can’t figure you out. I’m not entirely sure if there’s a specific order or way to get that outcome.
I got that ending and I’m pretty sure you just have to use both paragon and renegade dialogue somewhat equally. Not giving into aria entirely but not not opposing her too much either.
That was me
is it rare? .___. i got it XD
I got that route tonight lol.
I always did renegade walkthroughs because I liked the kiss at the end 🤣 but lately I like to play neutral where she can't figure Shep out, calling her truly dangerous. Makes me think Shepard is one of the few people in the galaxy she knows not to mess with, and I like that because it makes Aria realise Shep isn't one of her minions, she's not going to just bend over backwards for her and do whatever she wants.
You can go the paragon Route and stil get that at the end if you are playing Engineer
I always spare him. Both because I'm as close to 100% a Paragon player as possible. And because as Kandros says, he keeps his promises. It would be a different matter if he didn't keep his word, say executing the Talons who surrendered. Its clear though he conducts war as honorably as possible. So that means he ought be spared. Honor for honor. Mercy for mercy.
I prefer watch the scene of arias kiss. Always got at least 8k war assets so this does not count for me
I always kill him. Hes forcing Sheppard to waste extremely valuable time, and resources during a war to end all wars. You have the fate of the entire galaxy at stake. And this dude is more concerned about taking over a space station vs helping the galaxy survive a full on extinction level event. Would throw his butt into a black hole if the game allowed that option. You do not have the luxury of time with an event like this going on. He choose his side. Also I think he is infected by the Reapers in some way. They were all working around Reaper tech. They know what is fully at stake. Yet they want to try, and control them. They were trying to play God.
@@lofivibes3640 Eh...Petrovsky clearly believes he is doing right by humanity. As for controlling the reapers, its the second best option. (Synthesis being the best). The Illusive Man wasn't wrong. He was just unable to actually seize the reapers. Because as starchild said, they already controlled him.
Most of all he let Aria escape Omega
@@bradley8867 Indeed. Though I wish the DLC let you kill her and put Nyreen in charge. Aria is a glorified pirate and gangster. Petrovsky points this out, throughout the DLC-she's in it for revenge and her own petty ambition. Also her rule on Omega was basically letting rival gangs wage war, while the people suffered under their boot heel. Somehow you never get to call her out on this. I guess people at Bioware were fans of Carrie Anne Moss.
“So, your going to execute me?”
Oleg right before being executed
Crewmates in Shepard's place when Aria chokes Oleg:
Liara: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, takes two paragon interrupts.
Samara: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, lectures Aria and takes two paragon interrupts
Garrus and Miranda: insist on sparing Petrovsky for intel, take two paragon interrupts.
Kaiden: insists on sparing Petrovsky because it is right, takes only one paragon interrupt.
Tali: insists on sparing Petrovsky for intel, takes only one paragon interrupt.
EDI and Legion: suggest sparing Petrovsky for intel, do not interfere.
Mordin: states that Petrovsky might be too dangerous to live, then states that intel might be valuable, contemplates aloud as Aria chokes Oleg.
Grunt: suggests letting Petrovsky die on his feet, doesn't bother interfering.
Thane: shoots Petrovsky himself to deliver a clean death.
Kasumi and Wrex: don't give an damn about Petrovsky fate
Zaeed: lets Aria have her goddamn pleasure.
Ashley: shoots Petrovsky before he says a word.
Javick: calls Aria primitive as she chokes Petrovsky, tells how they handled traitors and rebels in his cycle.
Jack: pushes Aria aside and chokes Petrovsky herself.
Wrex: *Fucking eats Oleg*
I dont know about Samara (too much injustice and civilians dead to let him live) and Tali might actually advocate killing him because dead Cerberus is good Cerberus (she might even loan you a grenade to put in his mouth)
@@Dark_Voice hesitated among similar lines about Samara, but Tali is quite calculative, guess she would favor interrogation. After all, Petrovsky is neutralized either way.
Probably everyone's shepard: "anyone that unironically associates with kai-leng deserves to die-leng"
Samara would totally execute him, assuming she's still operating to her code only and not promised to follow Shepard's command.
I spare Oleg but do the speech routes to tell him behave or he'll go back to Aria.
Nah, he gets the double Renegade interrupt every time
You get just as many War Assets if you kill or spare Oleg. It's just that if Oleg is alive, your allies interrogate him and his assets show up in Alien, while if he's dead you find files and the assets show up in Alliance.
Makes feel better shooting him myself, I am playing the original and man, the final fight pissed me off so much, that even though aria spared him, I had the pleasure of putting a bullet in his head personally.
Actually here's a fun thing you missed, if you did a certain side quest for one of aria's people that involves hacking cerberus terminals, then killing Oleg gets you the Aria's Hacker War Asset, which gives the exact same amount of points as Oleg. So the the decision ultimately comes down to the prefered morality.
I was hoping for a Virmire survivor situation, where Shep could choose to save Aria or Nyreen. Whoever you saved would then be the leader of Omega. I couldn't stand Aria, and thought that Nyreen would would be a better leader.
Yeah, but then it would affect Aria on the Citadel (and related discussions with others) which was already written in before the DLC.
@@AndrooUK That's reasonable. There would be ways around it (Nyreen at the Citadel, One of Aria's lieutenants takes over). It would require a patch of the main game, and some new voice work. If they didn't want to go to the effort, then fair enough.
To rule Omega you need iron fist, this is the Terminus system after all. Nyreen is good and all but Omega is a lost cause
Seems like they edged around with that idea and then backed off, choosing not to deliver.
Aria's kiss with Femshep is...much less stilted.
She much prefers ladies hehe
I love the little look she does, just glancing to her in shock and surprise. XD
Niiiice. I'll keep that in mind for the Legendary Edition ;)
@@master5gamingandotherstuff490 and Mordin 😉
@@poluticon Mordin is the only one to break Omega's one rule & live to tell the tale
In Russian fandom, there was a soldier-psychologist who analyzed that game. As he said, "Petrovskiy follows soldier's moral codes, even if in his own interpretation" I agree with him and usually spare Oleg
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@@Sotka_ot_grudi он самый
War crimes is a thing, you know. No moral code can justify that. Give him due process than shoot him, that's my take.
@@antonbatura8385 for war criminals we have a thing called "trial". Remember the one after WW2. There were many horrible people, but killing them would be equal to losing scientific data. Almost same thing here, Petrovsky knows too much and hasn't done enough shit to be killed right on Omega
@@ГригорийСоколов-ь6й "due process" means exactly that, a court.
Having a Russian ME character was pretty interesting. I really hate he left the Alliance for Cerberus.
He's an ex-Alliance? Huh... didn't knew.
@@JethroDyx Yes he was. Back in First Contact war too.
There is also Michailovich, as I know (ME 1, counteradmiral that inspect Normandy)
@@Янус_Ырт yeah but he was a dick.
@@CedricCaffa at least not a traitor
If you let aria spare Oleg then you Kim him you still get 30 war assets. Aria’s hackers go to work and get you the intel you need which grants you 30 wars assets for the alliance First fleet
I played this DLC for the first time recently. My ending wasn’t in this video, and honestly, I think it was the best option. I played ParaGade, as I usually do, so I 1) sided with Nyreen most of the time, 2) brought the shields down in time without sacrificing any civilians, 3) let Arya kill Oleg because fuck that guy, and 4) told her she needs to focus on the people and take care of them.
She called me weird and dangerous, but in the end she adopted my philosophy and told the people of Omega to exile Cerberus from their home, shifting to Nyreen’s protective stance.
Arya gets her revenge, the people are cared for, and Arya’s hacker gave me intel on Cerberus so I didn’t even need Oleg. Everybody wins.
Aria's kiss scene is slightly different between the male and the female Shep by the way :)
Ik she does it longer if she is a fem shepard
@@zangona7111 she seemed to be more into the Female Shep than the male one. XD
@@livnatkris she is
Aria is a lesbian it's clear she once had a fling with that fem turian, it turned me against her,which is why I spare Oleg though I rolled mostly Renegade.
I did save the civilians on omega by not hitting the interrupts but,Aria was a boring unlikable character I wanted an ending where Shepard could kill Aria but,that wasn't an option.
Omega was imo,the worst ME3 DLC story wise it unlocks 2 Assault rifle and 2 bonus powers + 300 EMS war assets so it's worth it,but once started it has to be played straight through would've been better if you could leave Omega halfway thru then finish it before the Assault on the Cerberus base.
@@kennethprice8710 To be Fair, that Flare power was OP as fuck.
I had no idea there was so much going on behind the scenes in this DLC. The way your actions influence Aria, and all the little things in this, it's all really fascinating! Very different from the Leviathan DLC, but amazing in its own way.
Also, Nyreen is an absolute wife.
"Im your prisoner, You cant just shoot me"
Shepard: loads pistol with malicious intent
Ruthless Shepard on Torfan.
To me it's always been more about demoralizing Cerberus. Having one of their top guys get splattered might not net assets but it does feel like a swift kick to the Illusive Man's danglers.
I’m here because I like playing the game my way and then coming back to videos like this to see how it could’ve went and to learn all the books and crannies of the mission/game. Which is why I’ll always say content creators like you are some of the most underrated creators on RUclips. Without y’all’s willingness to play through the game, or even use console commands (if you can do that, idk. Still not easy.) I wouldn’t be able to do this.
Edit: Also I noticed there was a fair amount of paragon/renegade options throughout the mission. Makes more sense why now.
So you're saying Aria will kiss me if I go the renegade route?
-prepares to go on murder spree
Nyreen's sacrifice was so unnecessary and so out of place... Especially that these overdriven-cannibals drop after 5 shots with my Cerberus Harrier.
Biggest disconnect between gameplay and cutscenes imo. Builds them up as super dangerous and super horrifying... only to be weaker than a banshee both gameplay wise and horror wise.
@@soulstealer5625 mate for real the harrier even level 1 is just WILD
That shit made co-op plat easy af too
How 'bout Ashley or Kaiden dying from a single shot if you fail to convince them, even though they're wearing full armor?
Or those highly trained soldiers in full armor dying from a single shot during the last mission?
Enemies' life bar is a joke in solo mode. Even in highest difficulties. Been beefed up in multi but still pretty low. You should see what a Geth Hunter Infiltrator can do with the Javelin X...
But yeah, Nyreen's death was meh. But she always was scared of them so the scene fits the character in my opinion. If it was Aria, she would've Flared the crap out of those Adjutants.
@@GTAVictor9128 It's even funnier when you know that humans can survive for quite awhile, so unless that bullet was a neurotoxin, just bring them to Huerta and doctors'll patch em right up.
Yes that's one of my pet peeves. Characters dying instantly.
Fun fact: If you get the "romance" scene as a Female Shepard, Aria's kiss is much more enthusiastic, referencing how she prefers girls to guys.
Somehow i find that hard to believe.
The only time I wish I could make myself go Renegade as my female Shep.
Aria is dommy mommy.
Do it. Renegade Space Lesbian is the only way to play FemShep
@@aggrodkreg4321 nah man, Garrus is where it's at
@@dustinnelson123 Garrus is too much of a bro to do that to him. Let him have Tali.
@@aggrodkreg4321 barf.
Futaba!!! And is Fallen Angel a BVB reference?
Also, I agrees
7:28 "So, you're going to execute me?"
*blows his head off*
Theres actually one more possibility! If you choose a mix of renegade and paragon actions throughout the mission, then Aria’s dialogue with you at the end will be more ambivalent.
I remember one thing she said was “I still don’t know where we stand”. She also says that in her entire life Shepard is the most “powerful and confusing” being she has ever met.
So basically, there’s an in-between option for her dialogue with you in the end if you choose a proper mix of paragon and renegade options in the omega dlc
quick answer to save 10minutes : doesn't really matter, only choose what you want to see you get the same assets anyway
If you threaten him then let him live you get an extra 30 war assets from his intelligence. Legendary Edition.
Not much but I want the most bang for the buck, going in on finishing the game.
There's actually more unique dialog based on three things at the citadel after this. Iff you let her kill him, she respects you. If you kill him she compliments you and If you picked bits of paragon and bits of renegade and let her kill him, she says she is terrified of you. Paraphrasing but essentially she says she can't understand you and has never met a being that was so powerful that she couldn't get a read on and that terrifies her.
I killed Oleg accidentally! I thought the renegade interrupt was going to like pistol whip him or punch him! 🤣
😂
He's responsible for Nyreen dying so let Aria have him
It's useless to spear him, he doesn't give the Alliance important information about anything.
Love the way Aria kicks her hips to the left then gives the sideways glance Shepard's way after the kiss.
I love making Aria spare him and then just randomly blowing his head off. I play hardcore renegade all the way.
In my ending Aria always admits that Shepard is the most unpredictable and dangerous person she met
I love this style of video. You've got tons of material left. Excited to see it all before the new release
I remember getting a dialogue as fem shepar where she interrupts Aria once and then sayd to Oleg "i tried =)" and left it to die... was even more cruel and funny some how
I almost always kill him. The adjetants, death of Nyreen, and the simple fact he's trying to kill us the entire time.....just feels right lol
It goes without saying that Aria is by no means "perfect", the devil you know is better than the one you don't, as they say
Nyreen killed herself, trying to kill his enemies is normal and the Adjutants were most likely an order from the Illusive man. I always thought of them as indoctrinated and genetically changed Inusannon like Collectors - Protheans. So, doing experiments on them for the benefit of humanity seems like something TIM would want.
@@Dark_Voice Nyreen did kill herself but because of monsters that Cerberus created. Anyone trying to kill their enemies is normal but you’re obviously the worst of two parties when you’re a part of the group that unjustly took over an entire civilization, meaning those trying to get their home back are clearly in the right by fighting.
Petrovsky is too smart - he should not live to fight another day.
A lot of useful info in this video. That said, I treat situations like this (and most others in the game) much the same as I would IRL. That is if a character is not actively trying to kill me, for example shooting at me or my squad mates, I usually let them live. And in the video Aria let him live since the player had a high enough Paragon score. Knowledge is power in any universe.
I've noticed that choose evenly between Paragon and Renegade, Aria will call you "the most dangerous person she has ever met." 😁😁
Man, the animation of Aria kissing then pushing away from Shepard-the way her hands spread out in that "don't come close again" and how she and Shep both awkwardly turn away is hilarious and amazingly well executed. I'm almost tempted to go that route solely to see it again, and I'm not even one of the players who would've iked to romance Aria.
If you play as Female Shepard, she goes all in on the kiss. So it's obvious that Aria isn't interested in men.
I think the kiss is available only if you go full renegade. However if you go mixed or rather paragon but still let her kill Oleg then Aria comments on how Shepard is probably the most dangerous and powerful being she ever seen as she can never read his/her intentions
I used to spare Petrovsky, viewing the war asset as a sign it was the right thing to do. But on my most recent playthrough, I killed Oleg. Mainly for the Renegade points as I wanted to get the Illusive Man's renegade ending but tend to lean heavily paragon in Mass Effect in general. Now, thinking about it, I believe it's the right call. After World War 2, the US brought home a lot of Nazi scientists, some of whom were war criminals, via Project Paperclip. Yes, that brought us the space program, but it also spared some very disgusting people from trial and execution. I don't want the Adjutants to return again. But I figured the Alliance would take care of that.
Then I remembered who we were dealing with and the implication of the Adjutants existence in general. The Adjutants are a Mass Effect equivalent to Resident Evil's BOWs like the Lickers and Nemesis. And they have the ability to turn people into more Adjutants. Although safeguards can be put in place on the nanides Reapers use to turn people into husks (which I'm assuming are the mechanism Adjutants use to infect people), what are the odds that Cerberus put those safeguards in place? This is Cerberus we're talking about. They aren't exactly known for control of their experiments!
What Petrovsky did when allowing the Adjutants to be made was basically make an outbreak/pandemic risk. He released a bioweapon on Omega, something you only do if you're crazy, psychopathic or an idiot. A man who would do that cannot be trusted to live. You may ask "well how do you know the Illusive Man didn't order it?" Miranda tells us this herself, in order to safeguard other cells, all Cerberus cells are autonomous and compartmentalized. In other words Petrovsky has the ability to say NO to developing the Adjutants and he did it anyway.
We cured the genophage, why would we allow a clear pandemic risk made by Cerberus (who isn't exactly known for their caution or ethics) stand either? And in this case the Adjutants are actually more dangerous than the Genophage. The Salarians make things overcautious and sturdy, their minds are wonderfully agile and things they bioengineer seem to hold up fairly well. (Remember, the Genophage didn't mutate, the Krogan did! Mordin had to update the Genophage to work again!) In addition the Genophage wasn't made with murderous intent, the Adjutants were.
All Adjutants need to be destroyed, along with anyone who considers their creation and release ok. They represent a MAJOR outbreak/pandemic risk, but it gets worse. They're Reaper creatures. That means the Reapers could take control of them and said pandemic risk. They could use the Adjutants at a later date to try and fulfill their primary goal, convert or kill all sentient life. If one bite is enough to turn, anyone with weak enough armor is a potential casualty/vector. If physical contact is required to turn (skin to skin) then we're in real trouble. Omega is not the cleanest place in the galaxy, and there's a lot of fighting there, which means a lot of skin to skin contact.
Finally, there's the justice aspects of it. If what Petrovsky says is true, he's never going to stand trial for any of this. All the lives lost, all the damage, all the terror, and he gets to walk away? Hell no. Besides that we need to make an example when it comes to bioweapons. Besides other Cerberus cells, the Salarians are more than capable of creating bioweapons. If Petrovsky is killed in cold blood without trial it tells the rest of the galaxy "this will happen to you too. don't make bioweapons. EVER."
So I went the renegade vigilante route.
He broke Omega's 'one' rule. He sealed his own fate their and then
Hey man, your channel is amazing ! Thank you for all the great videos !
6:34 when I played the DLC, I only threatened Petrovsky. Basically a "I would've killed you if I wanted too. But you're too useful for that."
Also... Even if you give Omega back to aria, she will stay at Citadel. That means when Citadel was taken by Reapers she could be still there...
You can disconnect the reactor and spare the civillians if you don't take the two Renegade interrupts regardless of Shepard class. What I did was Aria spared the General and I took the first Renegade interrupt, if the Alluance decides to release him my Shepard will gladly place him on Omega and telling everyone that he is protected so long as he stays in the building.
Even in a paragon playthrough, I let Aria have her revenge. I figure she's earned it.
same
You have become my favorite channel Dan !!
Good ol Bray. Omega would be lost without him.
Definitely agree that you should spare Oleg for strategic reasons and he never goes back on his word. However, in all the times I've played the Omega DLC, I've only ever spared him once in my 100% paragon playthrough. The main reason why I always choose to let Aria kill him in pretty much every one of my playthroughs is because I promised Aria that I would help her get her revenge when accepting the mission and, like Oleg, I keep my promises.
Also, the Aria kiss makes it worth it too... especially as Femshep.
You get the same amount of war assets regardless of hom being alive or not
I prefer the kiss of aria hahah. Got 8200 war assets despite this
Killing Petrovsky lead to 30 point of war asset, named "Aria's hakers", to be added to the First alliance fleet, since a thankfull Aria decide to share Cerberus data she and Braid found.
The message on the War asset update says: "Thanks to Aria's hacker, the Cerberus files located in General Petrovsky's Afterlife headquarters were retrieved mostly intact. The encryption ciphers are complex, but Aria has her top technicians scraping the data for anything that may be of use to the Alliance.
Key intel on Cerberus activities in Alliance theaters has already been found, providing the forces fighting in those areas a tactical edge. In more heavily encrypted files, valuable threads are emerging that could uncover top-secret Cerberus operations."
So there is no differences between sparing and killing him on the War asset point total... no matter what you do you recieve 300+75+30, only difference is where the 30 are added, so is more a roleplay choiche than a score one.
I saved him on my last playthrough, Shepard gets extra war asset if he is saved?
As always! Keep up the good work Big Dan!
No. They give you 30 war assets even if he dies
One thing that wasn't mentioned here: If you got all the terminals for the hacker during the DLC, you get the 30 points' worth of intel even if Oleg is dead.
I got the ending in which Aria kissed Sherpard. What can I say ? I guess that even though she's a crime lord, my Sherpard and her have more things in common than what I originally believed.
Technically speaking Aria is not crime lord mainly because of the fact that the things that she does is mainly done in the terminus system and the terminus system doesn't have any rules/laws or any law enforcement at all (except for the people themselves) and all the people who live in the terminus system and omega included all have to solve there own problems unless someone else is involved basically the terminus system is the gray area of mas effect so Aria could do just about anything she wants just as long that the people in the terminus system doesn't band together and rebel against her and plus she owns omega so yeah unless the mean things that she's has done have been done in *insert place that has law's here* (let's say council/citadel space) technically she hasn't broken any laws/rules she more like a renegade/A$$hole queen rather than a crime lord
Carrie Ann Moss playing Aria somehow made her feel so much more alive, I'm not sure what it is. Great performance
Aria was such a badass in this DLC, it finally makes sense why everyone fears her.
If you allow Oleg to live, and don't indulge in cold-blooded murder, you gain valuable war assets that may tip the scales in saving the galaxy from annihilation.
But if you kill him you get a lil kiss 😘
I love the paragade option! I was playing mostly paragon with my femshep and I just couldn't take it when he decided to run his mouth and thanked me for "influencing Aria" to be merciful, it rubbed me the wrong way, so I threatened him back into his rightful place. Being merciful doesn't mean that you are safe, my femshep will not hesitate to give him back to Aria if need be.
Hey dan, love the Mass Effect videos. I couldn't find if you made this one yet, but can you make a video about Legion's loyalty mission, which is better, rewriting 9r destroying the heretics?
Destroying the Heretics will lead to getting a Peace between Quarians and Geth easier. Just look up his video on Quarian/Geth peace.
You can find this on the video about how to make peace with geth or in the video about getting the best ending. Dan did these videos . But in resume you should kill the heretics if you pretend to save geth and quarians or if you want to pick the quarian side. Although there are other conditions to make this possible. So if you don’t have this conditions to make peace and decide to side with geth is better to rewrite heretics
What I always try to remember is that there are 'no innocent on omega'. Pretty much everyone is a criminal to some degree, or else they wouldnt be there. Even that quarian kid from ME2, hadnt he come to omega in the first place, he wouldnt have been tricked into owning money to people and being unable to leave. Now it doesnt justify sacrificing people blindly or anything but it does make aria's ruthless way of ruling quite understandable and fair. If she shows weakness, she'll be overthrown and Id rather have HER sitting on top of omega's food chain than some other thug with no morals and dreams of conquering other ships and planets
I remember the shock as I accidently hit the renegade interupt on paragon and blew his head off ..... ooops
I just finished playing through Omega for the first time yesterday, and honestly, I'm so... *impressed*, by how strong the roleplaying elements were. The gameplay and level design were pretty great, don't get me wrong, but choosing dialogue and making decisions genuinely felt so natural that it's still kinda throwing me for a loop. It gave me a much deeper insight into how I've been playing Shepard throughout my playthroughs.
“Shepard......save me....I can give you intel on Cerberus and the Illusive man!”
Paragon Shep: *Casually smoking a cigarette while Aria chokes general to death*
I was waiting to stop Aria from killing Oleg after what happened to Nyreen. But I was surprised when she suddenly stopped and let him go and imprisoned him I guess? (Or she handed him over to the alliance, I think.) I was shocked to see that side of her, and how she commented that she can't figure me out, and there was something with me like a drug, I suppose. Hahaha, it was amazing when I finally walked out of afterlife while she was giving the speech to the people of omega. Man, it was one hell of a dlc, it was long but it was amazing!
I know I might have asked this for you Dan, but please. Can you make a video about resolving the conflict between Tali and Legion? I'm curious about how many Paragon/Renegade points you need to make peace with one of them, if you have to choose a side.
If you play a Femshep, the kiss is much more... sensual...
Aria prefers Femshep.
What was the memento she leave Shepard in the email after omega. The chess board?
I was all over the place when I played Omega for the first time. I sacrificed the hospital patients. I took sides with Aria's former lover. My allegiance was so warped that Aria even commented on it saying she wasn't even sure who I truly was. Sometimes I'd indulge her dark deeds and others I'd forcibly rein her in.
Aria's kiss deserves a thousands of deaths
I couldn't even decide. She spared him automatically because I was such a good boy.
If I don't get the full Paragon self opt-out, I just let her kill him. I haven't yet done it myself, as much as it looks fun now I've seen it - thank you! My reasoning is that we just watched Aria massacre all his cronies and I hate Batman Morality - the leader's life shouldn't get more value than his henchmen.
Does he really have the audacity to say "this is murder"
Before I played first time I’d seen a vid of Aria killing Oleg and then kissing Shepard like “thanks for letting me kill him” so I went in like “imma let her kill Oleg and see if she smooches FemShep. But then I’d gone mostly Paragon and Aria just let Oleg go without my help-I was totally blown away. 😳
The way he gives up was too snakey for me. I had to put his ass down
I personally prefer the more neutral ending. where she says your dangerous and she cant figure you out. The paragon route seems really interesting too. shows how much influence shepard has around people. but with neutral its like you beat aria at her own game. i recently played the legendary edition and depending on the dialogue she almost seems disappointed even a little upset that she cant figure you out or even trust you. which speaks volumes considering the kind of person she is. i mostly play paragon in my play throughs but once i get to ME2 thats when i start changing it up and sprinkle a bit more renegade. keeps my shepard character and certain situations interesting
If you're aiming for max war assets then it's best to keep Petrovski.
He always dies in my play throughs. By the time you get to him the stuff you have seen that he was doing, yeah he dead.
I don't get how people think this guy is "honourable" when he commits atrocities turning people into abominations
@@Shvabicu There's always Cerberus dickriders around when watching mass effect videos
You forgot a few other scenarios. You can be a mixed alignment throughout the entire mission, and Aria's comments will be based off of whether or not you decided to spare or kill Oleg yourself. And, if you're an Engineer, there's a Paragon prompt that you can take that will make both your squadmates happy, and you can earn a kiss from Aria as a Paragon. And to top it all off, if you're femshep, the kiss will be much longer and more passionate than with male Shepard. This makes sense since Aria very clearly has more of a preference for women in general. Probably the masculine energy and all.
Interestingly enough I got a dialogue that you did not list. I play the shepherd character as if it were me so it is a mixture of paragon and renegade depending on the situation. I let aria kill a leg and afterwords her dialogue comments on how unpredictable I am and that I am the most dangerous man in the galaxy.
Only spare if you are using the Expanded Galaxy Mod for ME3, or if you want to push Aria into a more Paragon Path.
You forgot the neutral one aswell . Aria says he couldn't figure me out when I first played this
It's interesting. Aria respects you more for sticking to your principles, regardless of whether or not you agree with her.
Do like the fact you can influence Aria to spare Oleg herself - really does make your choices meaningful to the story in this DLC.
Yess ! I need this videos, cuz everytime I play oleg always spared, and no renegade interrupt
Did anyone else hear that low static sound when the renegade option appeared?
1:03 At least on my first playthrough, I eventually gave in, and "choose" to sacrifice those civilians when the 3rd and Final Renegade "trigger" presented itself. As I thought I were taking too long (and/or) Aria & Nyreen couldn't hold out any longer at that point. Plus that "I"/Shepard and aren't as familiar about the station as Aria and/or Nyreen are.
If Oleg ends up dead and if you've done the hacker side quest, (i'm not even sure that you really have to do it) then you will have the hacker war asset that worth 30 points... (you will not have it if oleg is alive)
So strategically the fate of Oleg is not important.