Artists in the wild recognise members of their pack by their collections of oddities. Opposing pack groups are also recognised in this matter and are given "constructive crittisisum" ultimatrly destroying the other clans moral and already non existant self esteem. However wild artists will team up with opposing clans to fight a larger enimy, sutch as "karens" or "people who pay with exposure".
You jest but the last time I went to camping I collected remnants of an old doll and its still sitting in my drawer because I haven't decided what to do with it yet
As a Groundskeeper at a uni who mostly specializes in Waste Management; this creeps me out on a whole other level; I’m just imagining this happening to me.
That was exactly my first thought, that it was just coating. I don't think a fully metal heart would stay in the middle of things as light as packing peanuts. And if it had sank to the bottom, against the pavement, the person picking it up would feel it.
@@corvidaesy8008 There's overlap among almost all the powers, it's likely both. For example the anatomy class students were DEFINITELY Stranger, but they performed pretty Fleshy acts like Jarod
Im thinking that maybe it wasnt allan texting "found him". It couldve been the person bringing the bags took allan and texted the other garbage man from the victims phone, as in "i found allan" not "found the teeth guy"
This is what I thought too! Though I was inclined to interpret it as a sort of bait so that this tooth fairy persona could… eliminate the other garbage man as well. I was wrong about that, at least.
That's a good point, didn't ever consider that. I just took his impression of being texted by his friend for granted, but it could easily have been this. @torttania Can't have such a lovely gift-wrapped present be missed and just tossed in the trash, now can we? Tbh, there's other lore reasons that could apply to why, but it'd be a spoiler to mention them so I won't.
this is episode FIVE, bud, give them a minute to get to know each other... how far in are you now? Let's just say if you don't want to listen to a podcast with a gay couple as the protagonists, you're going to be disappointed
can someone tell me what happened more or less in ep four, i didn't see this ep subtitled in my language. I don't know any English, this is all Google translator
“nobody doesn’t seem to realize up to a dozen ppl might be seeing what you thrown away” me, remembering all the 1D x reader fanfiction i wrote in my notebook at 10 y/o: 👁👄👁
the escalation of concerning shit to find in garbage bags is so wild here. doll heads: creepy but cliche, easily explained away. prayer paper: disturbing to folks with religious backgrounds, but not super nefarious. PRESUMABLY HUMAN TEETH: DEEPLY ALARMING, APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES NEEDED ON THIS ONE. an anatomically correct ice cold heart with the name of the dude who's gone missing: idk man i think i'm done here, bye. the voices of the different statement givers so far have been really strong, the stories have felt really authentic to the characters telling them. i see the narrator is still being rude about one of his assistants on tape. very bad manners!
Oooor maybe a writer who does a really deep research about everything in their story and did some experiments with dolls to know the exact sounds/scratches/damages to them. Well. Maybe they also wanted to know how cramped the character's hand would get after writing something for a thousand times, and wanted to know the exact damages to one tooth using corpses from cemetery (or maybe it was a fucking maniac that lives somewhere else and keeps a poor person in the basement (Allan?!!! they added Allan???!!!) and makes them butcher dolls and writing one phrase...)
Maybe it's because, in a normal situation, teeth should be inside the mouth, aligned side by side in two rows (one up, one down), so when you see teeth outside a mouth and/or scattered randomly, your brain automatically goes "wait this is not right". I realize now that it was probably a rethorical question but since I've already written all that might as well keep it haha
I know this is probably a rethorical question, but honestly I think it's because of how many people you should 'collect' from tk get enough to fill a trashbag. Like that's a LOT of teeth. You never see so many in one place, and people have around ~28 teeth in their mouth. It's,,,, yeah
I think it’s the symbology. Teeth are for self-service, right? You eat with teeth, talk with them, animals defend themselves, etc. all pretty necessary things. When teeth are removed entirely, you become worried about whoever they belonged to. But when they’re there, just not in the way you expected, it’s worse, because it suggests that whatever the teeth belongs to is also not what you expect, and maybe dangerous.
Spoilers for the episode below . . . "okay so he's just robbed a bunch of graves that's not so spooky-" "They were all the exact same tooth" .......................How to disturb and viscerally upset your audience in 7 words or less
@@tmaxgo6696 Depends on country/etc. Taking DNA tests on confirmed human teeth to match with missing person reports would make sense though. Makes you wonder at which point the technician started to freak out. "Okay, so tooth number three. Same DNA. Huh, twins?" A few minutes later "Tooth thirteen. Well, would you look at that. Same DNA. That's it. I quit!"
@@drinkerofpaintthey’ve already called the police for mysterious happenings at the same house when they found a bag full of human teeth. Why wouldn’t the police believe him when weird shit happens again?
This is my favorite story so far. To me, it strikes to a very real fear of knowing there is a serial killer out there. The doll heads remind me of trophies and the prayer seems like the creation of a huilty conscience. No idea what to make of the metal heart, except that I think Allan is quite dead.
Cause it mean whoever colected them was collecting them for decades and with any means to collect them one might come up with that amount of time and dedication is disturbing.
If they were different teeth you could think it's just an insane person grave robbing or something similar, weird and probably dangerous, but very much human and explainable The same teeth tough? Completely unnatural, can't be reasonable explained
You know, when I was listening to the "interesting thing about the teeth" I expected them to be all out of the same mouth. But THIS. THIS IS WAY CREEPIER.
These stories are scary as hell. Yet I’m here to get to the bottom of things and see what this show is about also to get the good stuff. I think it will be well worth it
Am I piecing this together right? It took Alan's brother an entire *year* to report him missing? Statement given February 2009. "8th of August last year" (2008) was the final text conversation. "Alan Parfitt was reported as a missing person by his brother Michael on the 20th of August 2009"
that’s wild that it was all the same tooth… this is so well written it’s crazy 😭 like, i’ll hear something and i’ll stand up or audibly gasp. it’s crazy. love it so far!
omg you're so me when I first listened to this. I started my first relisten and I still feel that way even tho I know what's coming...jon and his plot twists during sentences!
So I've started to go back and re-listen to these to try and make some sense of everything, writing down names and events as there have been a number of times when I've thought to myself, "Hm... I feel like that was supposed to be a big reveal, but I that name doesn't ring any bells," and I'm a bit confused when it comes to filling in my timeline so far: The original statement was given Feb 23, 2009. Keiran states that, "on the 8th of August last year," Alan texts him. This would have had to be August 8, 2008. Alan's brother, Michael, reports Alan missing "on the 20th of August, 2009." Did it really take over a year to report him missing or am I misunderstanding the order of events?
ooh i might be wrong, bc i ALSO have trouble remembering their names/dates/etc., but somewhere in s1, someone gets mad at jon bc he messed up some case names/dates and they wanted him to rerecord those case statements. again, not sure if this was one of the mistakes he made, but it might be!
In the forums it was confirmed that the date was misspoken on accident and then in Mag 33 Tim pointed out the inconsistencies to Jon about them being a year apart
I love this. Some good spooky stories. Great job on giving the characters some depth too. On one hand pissed that I just heard of the magnus archives. On the other hand it would probably be for the better since 14 year old me wouldn’t sleep after hearing this.
Just started this week and honestly same.This came out when I was 15/16 and even then I was still scared of horror. Tbh I think the only reason it doesn't scare me now is bc I'm an nbc hannibal fan😂
I'm gonna be completely honest - Rusty Quill is so good at narration and podcasts I could listen to y'alls talk about the ins and outs of garbage collection all day and be fascinated by it.
Slight spoilers for later on I love this episode, I did special effects in college and I got my mate from the course into it. We literally have thrown out old props and casts that we thought would probably freak out the bin man, definitely a bunch of doll head casts and im pretty sure teeth aswell. We later worked on a film set that was absolutely chaos, I sent him the later episode that is on a film set and we laughed about how we wouldn't be surprised if the same thing was going on behind the scenes 😅
If I had never been to Katsucon, the first three things they found might have been creepy to me. But I have friends that handed out plastic teeth and tiny plastic baby’s at that con. So uh. I’m desensitised.
Farming can be pretty dangerous. Lots of large and sharp equipment, sometimes there's stuff in or on the ground you have to look out for, and if you've got animals that presents a whole different can of worms to deal with
Even if your not using tractors or scythes it's still dangerous. Like the story mentioned in the recent Last Week Tonight episode about farmworkers, where a farm worker got dehydrated from doing hard work in the hot sun, and wound up going the wrong way, passing out before they found their way to water. In that particular case it was a child, but it can happen to adults as well.
Spoiler observation (I've listened to the whole series so hiding this): . . . . . . . . . They often reference a female cop dealing with these things....I know they're not all in the same location, but I so wonder how many of these might be Daisy or Basura! I never considered that on past relistens but this time I'm noticing it's a lot of female cops and they DO get "marked" by the policy agency to deal with the weird stuff.....
Waaait I am new to this podcast so I don't have all the information but I have a theory: So, the heart is probably Alan's heart And this takes place in 2008. And Mary Keay from the last episode ALSO died in 2008. Maybe the prayer paper with the "Latin" has something to do with Mary Keay
Huh. I had been listening to this, and I had a video of birds for my cats up on the tv. Apparently my tv has a sense of drama, because at some point during this episode, it encountered an error and stopped working. I only noticed this afterwards, but I do appreciate my tv giving me a proper moment of silent horror.
I am really enjoying this podcast! It's like my mind is opened not only to the different kinds of eerie but also to the different perspectives from which one can tell an intriguing story, it's really making me think what things can be considered when writing a character. I'm really curious how the other episodes are gonna go, I'm kind of in disbelief that one podcast can contain so many interesting concepts.. I feel really engaged and so far each episode has made me want to theorize with others. I think I might need to find a listening buddy if that's a thing?
**SPOILERS** * * * * * * * My guess is it’s closer to The Stranger. The teeth did initially make me think Flesh, but the doll heads, the fact that they’re all the same tooth, the anatomically correct heart made of inorganic material all point towards The Stranger. The Stranger is all about the uncanny, unnerving, and unknown. That’s this to a T. The Flesh is usually grosser and more visceral. This feels closer to the shape-shifting anatomy students, who were aspects of The Stranger. 😊
@@TheNitpickChick Nope, it's Flesh. Jonny confirmed in one of the Q&As. Flesh also delves into mass production, the fear that we are just meat and parts to be consumed or discarded. Its that side of the Flesh.
as someone who has accidentally swallowed my own tooth before, I did not like the feeling in my throat when they mentioned the teeth that fell out of the bag.
I’m pretty sure it was the weird students with generic names, the ones that put the teeth in their teacher’s apple, trying to figure out how to present as normal, anatomically correct humans
@@elspeth6244 Well maybe that would work for the teeth, but what about the prayer paper and the dolls? And why make Alan Parfitt disappear? Why the metal heart with his name on it? The first time I listened to this, I thought each of the bags must be some kind of remnant or symbol for a different missing/dead person, but I don't know who/what would have taken/killed them or why. I feel like we can cross off the Buried, the Corruption, the Dark, the Desolation, the Eye, the Vast, and the Web as none of them seem connected to *any* of the bags or event as a whole. But other than that? I feel like I could at least make weak arguments for the rest. Dolls are often related to the Stranger. The Prayer Paper makes me think of the End except this feels way too active for the End and the fact that the thin strip seems to just keep going also feels a bit Spiral. Alan Parfitt's obsession, which may or may not be how each previous victim was lured in, almost seems like Eye or Hunt, but the patient waiting around is definitely not hunt. It's weird to think the teeth might be anything *but* Flesh, though I suppose Spiral could also make it happen. Overall, I think the Spiral/Distortion having fun and drawing from other entities is the most likely explanation, but. Yeah, unlike a lot of other episodes, this one only gets *weirder* in hindsight.
Ludere Igne Assuming that they are the students, I would have thought that the dolls would have been used as a means of learning what a human should look like and that Alan’s disappearance was a way of them aquiring a cadaver for further study of human anatomy, hence why they don’t breathe or undestand how a heart should beat in later episodes, as their only experience had been with a dead one. I would assume that the metal heart was an attempt at ‘creating’ one for their own bodies. I can’t figure out what the paper is though and I agree that multiple entities might have been at work in this statement.
Ludere Igne Assuming that they are the students, I would have thought that the dolls would have been used as a means of learning what a human should look like and that Alan’s disappearance was a way of them aquiring a cadaver for further study of human anatomy, hence why they don’t breathe or undestand how a heart should beat in later episodes, as their only experience had been with a dead one. I would assume that the metal heart was an attempt at ‘creating’ one for their own bodies. I can’t figure out what the paper is though and I agree that multiple entities might have been at work in this statement.
So was the heart just encased in metal? Cause I’m pretty sure if it was solid throughout, it would have weighted a lot more than a garbage bag can take.
that nightmare that i used to have about all my teeth falling out and pouring out in a river of teeth again and again? yeah i'm gonna have that again now
How British is this podcast? Basically: "My life might have been in danger, but I didn't want anyone to think I was complaining." The only thing to make it more British would be apologising to the monster as it devours you.
"people think that when they throw something away, no one will ever see it again." So this guy is talking about how foolish he sees people who throw away things that they don't want other people to see, but does he like, expect them to like bury it or some shit? Like, how is throwing it away not the best way to dispose of something wtf is he talking about
I think it was more that people think that once they throw it away no one's going to know or find out about whatever it was, so they never think about hiding it better from the people who get rid of the garbage. Idk
If possible, you could burn it or shred it into as small pieces as possible and distribute it over several different wastebags that you put out in front of different houses on different days. If it's organic material, you could try feeding it to pigs as they eat almost anything. Throw it into a lake or river, preferably not the nearest to you. If it's heavy enough to sink, find a place where the body of water is deep so the chance of it getting discovered is minimized. If it's not, tie some heavy stuff to it. If it floats, throw it in a river with strong current so it gets carried a few kilometers downstream. If you have the means to get some and safely do so, you could dissolve it in acid. Or, as you suggested, find the most remote piece of land you can and bury it. It's possible to combine several of these options. And I should probably stop telling the internet how to dispose of stuff the way serial killers probably do it because I'm starting to sound like one...
I had chills sent down my spine when they said, “It was filled with teeth.” And it’s the same tooth!? AND there’s Latin writing!? The question is, how is it the same tooth?
(EPISODE SPOILERS) All the same exact tooth? All (presumably) from the same human? uh oh. We got some time shenanigans or other supernatural cloning-type something-er-other goin' on! If it's just the exact same type of tooth then, man, that's a whooooole lotta bodies.
"A bag of old doll heads"
Me: Ah, an art student.
As an art student I can say this is true.
Artists in the wild recognise members of their pack by their collections of oddities. Opposing pack groups are also recognised in this matter and are given "constructive crittisisum" ultimatrly destroying the other clans moral and already non existant self esteem. However wild artists will team up with opposing clans to fight a larger enimy, sutch as "karens" or "people who pay with exposure".
@@nikonikoknees4488 lmao
The story: it was a bag of human teeth
Me, looking nervously at my collection of human teeth:
dollightful
I love how the comments exclamation for the weird behavior in each episode is “ah yes an art student”
Lmao
I mean it just makes sense. Paper, doll heads, teeth.
@@xxmidnight12xx18 I mean, have you heard of that one tiktoker who collected hair loose hair to make a wig? Nothing surprises me anymore...
@@JustCallMeEmily to be honest what goes on on tik tok doesn’t surprise me anymore.
You jest but the last time I went to camping I collected remnants of an old doll and its still sitting in my drawer because I haven't decided what to do with it yet
So this is what the tooth fairy does on her spare time
Yep
As a Groundskeeper at a uni who mostly specializes in Waste Management; this creeps me out on a whole other level; I’m just imagining this happening to me.
i dont think anyone but waste managment people can fully grasp the actual horror that this story causes
It would be fun to me, would be fascinated by it xD
"he found some weird pages with some words writen in latin" *HOLY SHIT IT DOES HAVE AN OVERARCHING STORY*
And it was fucking charred?? Like what Jared did to the Latin book in the other episode??
@@extremity5462THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OMG!
@@extremity5462 holy shit you cooked with this
Johnathan: All 2780 of them were the exact, same, tooth...
Ad: IS INVISALIGN THE BEST FOR MY SMILE?
O h n o
im rlly questioning, it was a lot of the same thoot of a single person or a a type of thoot (like canine, molar, incisor)??
Haha irony
@@izyccor I think it was the exact same tooth cloned several times with the only difference being what state of decay it was in
LOL
Why does he hate Martin so much???? It's honestly kinda funny
I know right?
I love it when he disses him it's hilarious 😂😂
I need an update to this comment
Who do you think he hates more Martin or his predecessor?
@@KatanaDen his predecessor. He seems just irritated with Martin, but especially after ep.04 seems genuinely insulted by his predecessor's lax work.
I wonder if, perhaps, that metal heart wasn’t metal all the way through. That it could have just been a metal coating on Allan’s heart.
That's what I thought too
That was exactly my first thought, that it was just coating. I don't think a fully metal heart would stay in the middle of things as light as packing peanuts. And if it had sank to the bottom, against the pavement, the person picking it up would feel it.
Yeah, it should have been way heavier if it was pure metal.
Like a metal crown on a tooth....
@@hhylobates4098 god I hate that... that makes or so much creepier
oh, oh now THATS why people tag my teeth posts with "The Magnus Archive"
Why do you have teeth posts???
@@elliscrawford7026 I like teeth
@@CeramicGod Ok, you're clearly an evil doppelganger
Your what now
@@pendularnuncius2618 👀
a shark lives there
Took me a while to get it, but still funny!
oh my god
Lepitorus I’m wheezing
Where?
Lol its gura guwrs tooth tooth fair bag
me for the first half: Hmm, this is creepy trash
the teeth: *pour out *
me: DEAR JESUS
"The teeth" is never something I expected to be followed by a colon
dont worry they were probably just an art major
@@binkbonkbones3402 I mean, the teeth have to do something.
They had us in the first half ngl
It's free teeth estate
love that this episode canonically has fuck all to do with anything
It's just tooth time boys
It's a Tom Haan adjacent one, just that Jonny took the Tom Haan arc in a more canonically meaty one. This is a Flesh statement though.
@@mimkyodar I think this one is The Stranger? Because I'm pretty sure this episode ties into a later episode, Anatomy Class
@@corvidaesy8008 It doesn't. Johnny has confirmed it was intended to be Flesh
@@corvidaesy8008 There's overlap among almost all the powers, it's likely both. For example the anatomy class students were DEFINITELY Stranger, but they performed pretty Fleshy acts like Jarod
Im thinking that maybe it wasnt allan texting "found him". It couldve been the person bringing the bags took allan and texted the other garbage man from the victims phone, as in "i found allan" not "found the teeth guy"
Ooguhuu your right (°ー°〃)
This is what I thought too! Though I was inclined to interpret it as a sort of bait so that this tooth fairy persona could… eliminate the other garbage man as well. I was wrong about that, at least.
I thought about it too
Wow. But why did they do that? Just to scare the main dude?
That's a good point, didn't ever consider that. I just took his impression of being texted by his friend for granted, but it could easily have been this.
@torttania Can't have such a lovely gift-wrapped present be missed and just tossed in the trash, now can we?
Tbh, there's other lore reasons that could apply to why, but it'd be a spoiler to mention them so I won't.
John: * mentions his hate towards Martin every second it's possible *
Tumblr: ah yes, they are gay
Jon in S1 is frustrated by what he perceives as Martin being lazy. Let's just say their dynamic changes *quite a lot* in the following seasons.
this is episode FIVE, bud, give them a minute to get to know each other... how far in are you now? Let's just say if you don't want to listen to a podcast with a gay couple as the protagonists, you're going to be disappointed
@@happy99soup82 well I'm up to date and I get that they didn't exaggerate this time
Lol this comment is hilarious after MAG 200 haha
tfw its literally canon
“It was filled with teeth”
Me: e-excuse me?
“They were all the same tooth”
Me: EXCUSE ME?!?
WarriorGirl302 Lol, this is one of my favorite episodes.
This episode makes me question my neighbors trash bins now☠️☠️
@Jasmine Dawn Harrington
Hell yeah. I still have all my baby teeth somewhere
ALL 2780 OF THEM
can someone tell me what happened more or less in ep four, i didn't see this ep subtitled in my language. I don't know any English, this is all Google translator
Man, heartless coworkers are the worst
why?
That was a pun wasn't it 😭
@@alilweeb7684 was a joke because inside the bag was Alan’s heart and Alan was a former coworker of the statement giver
“nobody doesn’t seem to realize up to a dozen ppl might be seeing what you thrown away”
me, remembering all the 1D x reader fanfiction i wrote in my notebook at 10 y/o: 👁👄👁
we cannot erase our sins
we all make mistakes in the heat of passion jimbo
SAME!!
... And that is why investing in a shredder is worth it
hey, maybe one of them picked it up and enjoyed it.
or maybe it became their source for dramatic readings to make fun of
the escalation of concerning shit to find in garbage bags is so wild here. doll heads: creepy but cliche, easily explained away. prayer paper: disturbing to folks with religious backgrounds, but not super nefarious. PRESUMABLY HUMAN TEETH: DEEPLY ALARMING, APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES NEEDED ON THIS ONE. an anatomically correct ice cold heart with the name of the dude who's gone missing: idk man i think i'm done here, bye. the voices of the different statement givers so far have been really strong, the stories have felt really authentic to the characters telling them. i see the narrator is still being rude about one of his assistants on tape. very bad manners!
WEll maybe if Martin would stop being so terrible, John wouldn't have a reason to be rude about it.
Don’t worry John gets better. And by that I mean he falls in love with the assistant he hates so much currently 😂 lmao
I would have assumed whoever was living there was an artist/sculptor.
Riiight
(bag full of teeth spills onto the pavement) ugh, fucking art kids
Graham Newday this comment wins
*john cena voice* are u sure about that
Oooor maybe a writer who does a really deep research about everything in their story and did some experiments with dolls to know the exact sounds/scratches/damages to them. Well. Maybe they also wanted to know how cramped the character's hand would get after writing something for a thousand times, and wanted to know the exact damages to one tooth using corpses from cemetery (or maybe it was a fucking maniac that lives somewhere else and keeps a poor person in the basement (Allan?!!! they added Allan???!!!) and makes them butcher dolls and writing one phrase...)
.... why is it I always expect to be less disturbed by the next episode but it's always more disturbing.
this is pretty hilarious when you've listened to all the other episodes esp. season 5 XD
god, what is it about teeth stuff that is so viscerally disturbing
Maybe it's because, in a normal situation, teeth should be inside the mouth, aligned side by side in two rows (one up, one down), so when you see teeth outside a mouth and/or scattered randomly, your brain automatically goes "wait this is not right". I realize now that it was probably a rethorical question but since I've already written all that might as well keep it haha
Right? Every time I see them I just want to throw up, few times I almost did and idk why
I know this is probably a rethorical question, but honestly I think it's because of how many people you should 'collect' from tk get enough to fill a trashbag. Like that's a LOT of teeth. You never see so many in one place, and people have around ~28 teeth in their mouth. It's,,,, yeah
Okay i just now finished and the fact they were the SAME tooth is even worse
I think it’s the symbology. Teeth are for self-service, right? You eat with teeth, talk with them, animals defend themselves, etc. all pretty necessary things. When teeth are removed entirely, you become worried about whoever they belonged to. But when they’re there, just not in the way you expected, it’s worse, because it suggests that whatever the teeth belongs to is also not what you expect, and maybe dangerous.
Spoilers for the episode below
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"okay so he's just robbed a bunch of graves that's not so spooky-"
"They were all the exact same tooth"
.......................How to disturb and viscerally upset your audience in 7 words or less
Thanks for clarifying
with your theory, and since most teeth come in pairs, dude could've still robbed a few graves. 1390 of them, but still
@@arantzavzc I think they were more talking about the DNA in the tooth. I think That the tests said they all came from the same person and same tooth
@@noname-kx4cu isn't it more the shape? isn't that how dental records work? so 2790 identical teeth.
@@tmaxgo6696 Depends on country/etc. Taking DNA tests on confirmed human teeth to match with missing person reports would make sense though.
Makes you wonder at which point the technician started to freak out. "Okay, so tooth number three. Same DNA. Huh, twins?"
A few minutes later
"Tooth thirteen. Well, would you look at that. Same DNA. That's it. I quit!"
I was sorting my recycling when i started listening to this and it suddenly got quite real
Question is which bin the teeth go in
@@fevre_dream8542Since some of them have decayed to some degree, they cannot be reused or recycled. Pity.
@@fevre_dream8542 Composting, of course. Like eggshells do
I'd say they'd go in compost? Or, you could carefully drop it off into hazardous waste bins in public toilets?
10:00 When something unusual you do starts feeling like a ritual, interrupt and abort immediately.
The second the word "ritual" appeared I feared
People: freak out over the word "ritual"
Me, a witch: discreetly puts candles away before anyone notices.
@@lelandbecker3233 Same lmao
@@lelandbecker3233 ***GASPS IN 1800'S MALE***
No more making espresso? :P
*Sits in silence while being infuriated at the lad for throwing Allan's heart off to incineration*
Right, like call the police... Your friend is probably dead or something
@@maguiAM13eeeh for all he knows they wouldn't believe him.
@@drinkerofpaint yeah, I guess, but at least this will be out of his conscience, you know?
Now, I did love this story
Was literally thinking the same, like way to abandon your probably dead friend.
@@drinkerofpaintthey’ve already called the police for mysterious happenings at the same house when they found a bag full of human teeth. Why wouldn’t the police believe him when weird shit happens again?
"I don't know what I expected but it wasn't this" - every person giving a statement so far, lol.
This is my favorite story so far. To me, it strikes to a very real fear of knowing there is a serial killer out there. The doll heads remind me of trophies and the prayer seems like the creation of a huilty conscience. No idea what to make of the metal heart, except that I think Allan is quite dead.
Oh 100% and they we’re definitely tormenting the main guy
The fact it was all the same tooth is the worst part, and I don't know why.
Cause it mean whoever colected them was collecting them for decades and with any means to collect them one might come up with that amount of time and dedication is disturbing.
@@theartistswings9810 They would all be different teeth though. They were all the same tooth.
If they were different teeth you could think it's just an insane person grave robbing or something similar, weird and probably dangerous, but very much human and explainable
The same teeth tough? Completely unnatural, can't be reasonable explained
@@Guilloz96 (Hello from 3 years ago! Lol)
I wasn't even thinking about it, but it also suggests a much larger amount of victims. ._.
me: calmly listening to the episode
ad: *ITS MEAT.*
Lmao it's not wrong with this episode being our first taste of The Flesh
@@Watchers_Puppet it really is meat
Teeth are so hard to find nowadays, who would throw out a perfectly good bag of teeth?
Ah yes. Teeth are quite a rare and tasty treat
Gotta munch munch crunch on them
“Do you value your teeth? Because I guarantee I know someone who DOES MORE”
-Arin Hansen
@@loveydoveydoll4yeah, nhom nhom teeth
At first I thought it might be a serial killer, until that bit at the end.
Me, whom made thosands of resin teeth for an art project: wow that's freaky.
What kind of art project needs that many teeth? xD
OOH WHAT WAS IT ABOUT? IT SEEMS VERY INTERESTING
You know, when I was listening to the "interesting thing about the teeth" I expected them to be all out of the same mouth. But THIS. THIS IS WAY CREEPIER.
I was sort of lightly smiling throughout most of the video, but when the teeth poured out my smile dropped immediately.
I literally made the :o face 😭
Me: A bag of teeth is SUPER creepy
Me at the end upon hearing about the teeth again: OH NO
The relistening tma experience is just saying "clown" every time Jon hates on Martin
These stories are scary as hell. Yet I’m here to get to the bottom of things and see what this show is about also to get the good stuff. I think it will be well worth it
Hopefully it was
Allan- doesn't respond to texts or calls.
Me- new teeth
New teeth just dropped
What's that old saying about curiosity? Oh yeah....
"Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back"
Princess X97346 curiosity streams
I know I'm late to the party but I'm returning to this series and oh BOY
Am I piecing this together right? It took Alan's brother an entire *year* to report him missing?
Statement given February 2009. "8th of August last year" (2008) was the final text conversation. "Alan Parfitt was reported as a missing person by his brother Michael on the 20th of August 2009"
that’s wild that it was all the same tooth… this is so well written it’s crazy 😭 like, i’ll hear something and i’ll stand up or audibly gasp. it’s crazy. love it so far!
omg you're so me when I first listened to this. I started my first relisten and I still feel that way even tho I know what's coming...jon and his plot twists during sentences!
my blood literally went COLD when they said that at the end omg
So I've started to go back and re-listen to these to try and make some sense of everything, writing down names and events as there have been a number of times when I've thought to myself, "Hm... I feel like that was supposed to be a big reveal, but I that name doesn't ring any bells," and I'm a bit confused when it comes to filling in my timeline so far:
The original statement was given Feb 23, 2009.
Keiran states that, "on the 8th of August last year," Alan texts him. This would have had to be August 8, 2008.
Alan's brother, Michael, reports Alan missing "on the 20th of August, 2009."
Did it really take over a year to report him missing or am I misunderstanding the order of events?
ooh i might be wrong, bc i ALSO have trouble remembering their names/dates/etc., but somewhere in s1, someone gets mad at jon bc he messed up some case names/dates and they wanted him to rerecord those case statements.
again, not sure if this was one of the mistakes he made, but it might be!
In the forums it was confirmed that the date was misspoken on accident and then in Mag 33 Tim pointed out the inconsistencies to Jon about them being a year apart
@@GrandpaShagger69 Oh, thanks! I wasn't aware there was a forum.
i kinda expected the last bag to actually have the guy in it...
Same lol
Look, just a Desert Bluffs expat needed to get rid of their art collection, nothing weird about that.
I'm new to this series and I'm reading some comments out of context to confuse my self a bit until it makes sense as the narration goes on lmao.
I wish I had an audio recording of my reaction to the torn bag.
I love this. Some good spooky stories. Great job on giving the characters some depth too.
On one hand pissed that I just heard of the magnus archives. On the other hand it would probably be for the better since 14 year old me wouldn’t sleep after hearing this.
As someone relistening, I hope you enjoy! And go listen to the blooper reels if you struggle sleeping too much :D
Just started this week and honestly same.This came out when I was 15/16 and even then I was still scared of horror. Tbh I think the only reason it doesn't scare me now is bc I'm an nbc hannibal fan😂
@@song1of1fire1where are the bloopers?
I'm gonna be completely honest - Rusty Quill is so good at narration and podcasts I could listen to y'alls talk about the ins and outs of garbage collection all day and be fascinated by it.
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I love this episode, I did special effects in college and I got my mate from the course into it. We literally have thrown out old props and casts that we thought would probably freak out the bin man, definitely a bunch of doll head casts and im pretty sure teeth aswell.
We later worked on a film set that was absolutely chaos, I sent him the later episode that is on a film set and we laughed about how we wouldn't be surprised if the same thing was going on behind the scenes 😅
Tooth fairy was doing some spring cleaning
If I had never been to Katsucon, the first three things they found might have been creepy to me. But I have friends that handed out plastic teeth and tiny plastic baby’s at that con. So uh. I’m desensitised.
What freaked me out the most in this episode is the fact that the people that pick up my trash might judge me. Thanks...
Who else is here because of OSP?
metanight788 Me
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Me. I'm glad that Red recommended it ❤️
I have to say, after relistening to the series a couple of times after it ended this is still my favorite episode.
Farming can be pretty dangerous. Lots of large and sharp equipment, sometimes there's stuff in or on the ground you have to look out for, and if you've got animals that presents a whole different can of worms to deal with
Even if your not using tractors or scythes it's still dangerous. Like the story mentioned in the recent Last Week Tonight episode about farmworkers, where a farm worker got dehydrated from doing hard work in the hot sun, and wound up going the wrong way, passing out before they found their way to water. In that particular case it was a child, but it can happen to adults as well.
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They often reference a female cop dealing with these things....I know they're not all in the same location, but I so wonder how many of these might be Daisy or Basura! I never considered that on past relistens but this time I'm noticing it's a lot of female cops and they DO get "marked" by the policy agency to deal with the weird stuff.....
s1 jon hating martin to s4 jon? love the character development
Waaait I am new to this podcast so I don't have all the information but I have a theory:
So, the heart is probably Alan's heart
And this takes place in 2008. And Mary Keay from the last episode ALSO died in 2008. Maybe the prayer paper with the "Latin" has something to do with Mary Keay
Huh. I had been listening to this, and I had a video of birds for my cats up on the tv. Apparently my tv has a sense of drama, because at some point during this episode, it encountered an error and stopped working. I only noticed this afterwards, but I do appreciate my tv giving me a proper moment of silent horror.
Why do I learn more life lessons and street smarts from a made up podcast than at school
Peter my friend what the hell have you learned?
@@dantevitale5714 not to throw away anything incriminating.
Somebody found Dr Frankensteins house
I am really enjoying this podcast! It's like my mind is opened not only to the different kinds of eerie but also to the different perspectives from which one can tell an intriguing story, it's really making me think what things can be considered when writing a character. I'm really curious how the other episodes are gonna go, I'm kind of in disbelief that one podcast can contain so many interesting concepts.. I feel really engaged and so far each episode has made me want to theorize with others. I think I might need to find a listening buddy if that's a thing?
This series has peaked my interest and I’m obsessed 😍it’s so captivating
tbh this is what the trash men at my house must think since i do taxidermy and oddities
I just noticed that this fear is "The Flesh"
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My guess is it’s closer to The Stranger. The teeth did initially make me think Flesh, but the doll heads, the fact that they’re all the same tooth, the anatomically correct heart made of inorganic material all point towards The Stranger.
The Stranger is all about the uncanny, unnerving, and unknown. That’s this to a T.
The Flesh is usually grosser and more visceral. This feels closer to the shape-shifting anatomy students, who were aspects of The Stranger. 😊
@@TheNitpickChick Nope, it's Flesh. Jonny confirmed in one of the Q&As. Flesh also delves into mass production, the fear that we are just meat and parts to be consumed or discarded. Its that side of the Flesh.
While I know it was supposed to be a proto-Flesh statement I still think it has Eye vibes as well.
Well everything is connected one way or another
So i was already having a fear of the dentist and losing teeth. Should i be worried about this "unknown" person dumping teeth in a trash bag?
so, the teeth think kinda confirms the thing we are dealing with is not human? eldritch? I am very excited to find out :>
This episode but with the Bin Guy song playing in the background, looping and slowly getting louder near the end
as someone who has accidentally swallowed my own tooth before, I did not like the feeling in my throat when they mentioned the teeth that fell out of the bag.
Ive listened to the whole podcast and I still don't know what was going on in this episode
I’m pretty sure it was the weird students with generic names, the ones that put the teeth in their teacher’s apple, trying to figure out how to present as normal, anatomically correct humans
@@elspeth6244 Well maybe that would work for the teeth, but what about the prayer paper and the dolls? And why make Alan Parfitt disappear? Why the metal heart with his name on it? The first time I listened to this, I thought each of the bags must be some kind of remnant or symbol for a different missing/dead person, but I don't know who/what would have taken/killed them or why. I feel like we can cross off the Buried, the Corruption, the Dark, the Desolation, the Eye, the Vast, and the Web as none of them seem connected to *any* of the bags or event as a whole. But other than that? I feel like I could at least make weak arguments for the rest.
Dolls are often related to the Stranger. The Prayer Paper makes me think of the End except this feels way too active for the End and the fact that the thin strip seems to just keep going also feels a bit Spiral. Alan Parfitt's obsession, which may or may not be how each previous victim was lured in, almost seems like Eye or Hunt, but the patient waiting around is definitely not hunt. It's weird to think the teeth might be anything *but* Flesh, though I suppose Spiral could also make it happen. Overall, I think the Spiral/Distortion having fun and drawing from other entities is the most likely explanation, but.
Yeah, unlike a lot of other episodes, this one only gets *weirder* in hindsight.
Ludere Igne Assuming that they are the students, I would have thought that the dolls would have been used as a means of learning what a human should look like and that Alan’s disappearance was a way of them aquiring a cadaver for further study of human anatomy, hence why they don’t breathe or undestand how a heart should beat in later episodes, as their only experience had been with a dead one. I would assume that the metal heart was an attempt at ‘creating’ one for their own bodies. I can’t figure out what the paper is though and I agree that multiple entities might have been at work in this statement.
Ludere Igne Assuming that they are the students, I would have thought that the dolls would have been used as a means of learning what a human should look like and that Alan’s disappearance was a way of them aquiring a cadaver for further study of human anatomy, hence why they don’t breathe or undestand how a heart should beat in later episodes, as their only experience had been with a dead one. I would assume that the metal heart was an attempt at ‘creating’ one for their own bodies. I can’t figure out what the paper is though and I agree that multiple entities might have been at work in this statement.
I think jonny has said that this was a very early version of the Flesh, before they were entirely sure how it worked
To be fair teeth are probably the least carries body-part to find filling a trash bag
And Allan parfet, who drives- drove- the truck.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALLAN, KEIRAN???
So was the heart just encased in metal? Cause I’m pretty sure if it was solid throughout, it would have weighted a lot more than a garbage bag can take.
too bizarre! Good stuff!
Poor Martin is always getting dunked on.
that nightmare that i used to have about all my teeth falling out and pouring out in a river of teeth again and again? yeah i'm gonna have that again now
I'm loving this podcast so far! It's a creepy masterpiece!
How British is this podcast? Basically:
"My life might have been in danger, but I didn't want anyone to think I was complaining." The only thing to make it more British would be apologising to the monster as it devours you.
"bag of doll heads" mm, a doll customizer
This made me spit out my drink, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT WAS ALL THE SAME TOOTH!?
I love the theme song, it gives me fable vibes
my friend agreed to watch breaking bad if i listen to this. there is 200 episodes. this is going to be a long summer break.
I think you'll end up liking it. It's a bit of a slow burn.
Come on dude, don't just spill perfectly good food :/
"people think that when they throw something away, no one will ever see it again." So this guy is talking about how foolish he sees people who throw away things that they don't want other people to see, but does he like, expect them to like bury it or some shit? Like, how is throwing it away not the best way to dispose of something wtf is he talking about
I think it was more that people think that once they throw it away no one's going to know or find out about whatever it was, so they never think about hiding it better from the people who get rid of the garbage. Idk
Some people throw away illegal things, evidence of crimes, or straight up stuff you should bury. Yeah
If possible, you could burn it or shred it into as small pieces as possible and distribute it over several different wastebags that you put out in front of different houses on different days. If it's organic material, you could try feeding it to pigs as they eat almost anything. Throw it into a lake or river, preferably not the nearest to you. If it's heavy enough to sink, find a place where the body of water is deep so the chance of it getting discovered is minimized. If it's not, tie some heavy stuff to it. If it floats, throw it in a river with strong current so it gets carried a few kilometers downstream. If you have the means to get some and safely do so, you could dissolve it in acid. Or, as you suggested, find the most remote piece of land you can and bury it. It's possible to combine several of these options.
And I should probably stop telling the internet how to dispose of stuff the way serial killers probably do it because I'm starting to sound like one...
i want to know the maths they had to do to find out what a reasonable number of teeth to be stuffed in a bin bag would be
I had chills sent down my spine when they said, “It was filled with teeth.” And it’s the same tooth!? AND there’s Latin writing!? The question is, how is it the same tooth?
Ah yes. The teeth... While creepy as fuck those trash bags sound like great art supplies tho - ya know, if they weren't human parts and all that.
Imagine writing this and needing to figure out "How many teeth would fit in a trash bag?"
so many michaels...
Maybe it's something/one that can turn ppl into multiple small things? Like the polystyrene packing peanuts could be the rest of Alan's body idk
"It was all the same tooth..." Me: THATS WEIRD!!!!
sometimes i forget that david atayah was actually from a statement and not made up by archivistbot
I'll never look at another rubbish bag the same way again.
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All the same exact tooth? All (presumably) from the same human? uh oh. We got some time shenanigans or other supernatural cloning-type something-er-other goin' on!
If it's just the exact same type of tooth then, man, that's a whooooole lotta bodies.
not me realizing 93 Lancaster road is 10 ish minutes away from me
imagine you’re just walking down the street and out of the corner of your eye, you see this bulging trash bag tied with a green bow
"they were all the same tooth"
Ok, but which one????
great point
Makes me want to put a ribbon on my garbage.
the culprit is jack stauber
Love from a Baz and Vaush fan!