I do love how Jonathan sim's real voice is very monotonous and dull but his impressions of the other characters statements is so realistic Capturing their hesitation to their chuckles It makes me believe he actually wanted to be a voice actor. I mean the reports would definitely not say the person paused there or was a little scared while talking about this, he must have added it himself
@@fruitloop8481 suspenssion and the horror you imagine can be way scarier than a shocking display. I have a habit to write comments while half asleep, in a language not my own, unable to see my keyboard that likes to eat letters while haveing a mild case of dyslexia . . . maybe not a good habit
jared just, took this guys trash can? i know its a small thing like they arent that expensive and extenuating circumstances and all but he really did just take this dudes trash can
9:23 *grbookworm1818* G.R happens to be the initials of one, Gertrude Robinson, Jonathan's predecessor. 1818 is the founding date of the Magnus Institute. I can imagine that an archivist would be quite the bookworm too. Could be a coincidence, but not likely.
You are an observant one. I missed that on my first go, and I managed to guess the 14, the Panopticon twist, the Scars and even the Lighter. Hope you had fun working things out as you listened to the show. That's the best bit imo.
“...I knew it from the scar on the back of my childhood friend, who’d been struck by lightning because of me.” WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT!!?? THIS GUY???
I know it’s beside the point, but it is Extremely Adorable for Gerry to have gone through a “gothy eye sketch” phase, just like any other artist. Growing up under the shadow of The Beholding or not, questionably tasteful realistic eyes are a part of growing up. I think it’s really humanizing.
Decided to leave the playlist running while I went to sleep. Huge-ass thunder storm hit my hood right afterwards. Then I happened to have one of my sleep paralysis episodes. This is normal for me, but this one was waaaay more intense than I'm used to. Got so darn scared, I had to force myself awake -just in time to hear what had to be old Zeus's loudest fart in history. Immediately I went and turned the laptop off and unplugged the charger, and my desktop's plug, just before the lights went down in my house. I don't know if the overload could have harmed my stuff, but I'm thankful to the demons from hell for giving me the heads up. 10/10 would do it again!
I really love how subtle and understated these stories are. Nothing too over-the-top or bombastic like a bad creepypasta, no blood dripping from the walls, just a low key and deeply unsettling mystery
i mean, (possible spoilers, but i don’t think it’s for anything too important) there’s one guy who walked through a building with like, blood everywhere(? at least VERY OBVIOUS after reaching the destination), and the host was talking about skinning people, but bro did not notice...,,. i agree! that is what i like about tma’s horror! (episode described is called “uncanny valley.” don’t remember the number, might’ve been 73?)
@@thegreatknowingTo be fair, in season 1 I believe,,, there was that one guy who was literally hammering raw meat into his walls which IS pretty creepypasta-esque Stuff that has to do with the Flesh is pretty creepypasta-esque in general
@@happylittleloser the man upstairs, maybe? it is pretty funny, the contrast of the tma fears. the very possible idea that we will all die by our own hands, drowning in debt, a vicious and continuing cycle, and.... meat. (it's deeper than that, but shhhshhh)
"the lesser key of Solomon" is a book about how to summon demons. It was written by a catholic priest a very long time ago. It's a real thing, look it up.
The Lesser Key of Solomon is indeed a demonology text, but it's author is unknown and it was compiled from previously existing texts in the mid 17th century
Looks at the two variations of it I have sat in a drawer below my makeshift alter alongside a pile of other occult texts. Now where can I find one of these Lightner editions, they seem a fantastic centerpiece.
I love that in the first 3 he's just like: "Eh sounds like bullshit" but in this one he's like "Oh fuck a Lightner bokk god damn it" It really makes you think that these are important, dangerous and too common to be dismissed. Excited to hear more hints like that.
@@StayHappyDannyI just started a relisten because I had nothing better to do and now his visceral reaction to Lietner's is less "funny but intriguing" and more sad.
Relistening this after finishing s4 *screem* This is such an info-packed ep. "He looked at the title, then flicked through it very quickly, before laughing, just once and nodding, apparently to himself, as though he’d just come to some sort of decision." - iconic "If I never hear the name Jurgen Leitner again it will be too soon." *insert eye emoji* " Jurgen Leitner has done the world enough harm and we must pursue all available avenues to ensure that he does no more." *eye emoji intensifies*
@@hiddenace1953 BE VERY SCARED- Lol it's a great podcast, very engaging, I'm a few seasons in rn and ahhh idk it's great But very scary. Not just scary, but very scary too. I cannot describe this podcast in words, idk why I started typing this, I'll go back to shipping Jon and Martin in the corner and wondering whether the fandom has collectively given up on their ship name
wooow, there's so much to unpack here. what's really exciting is hearing the narrator talk about a case that he clearly takes seriously! i had him kinda pegged as a sceptic who could only ever begrudgingly admit that sometimes details didn't add up in ways that couldn't be explained, but apparently spooky books with supernatural powers are something he accepts as real and cause for alarm! apparently it's something the institute has a history of dealing with? i hope we get more info on that front. secondly, the stuff with mary and jared key is interesting. whatever these books are, it seems that mary was a fan, and jared was not. also, was mary a ghost? her supposed death sounded pretty horrific, but the description the statement giver gave of her didn't make her sound at all incorporeal. the way her tattoos seem to match the description of the sheets of skin covered in sanskrit is pretty troubling though. i don't even know what to say about the statement giver's original spooky book. it was good set up for introducing us to the concept of the library of yurgen lightner, which i assume will come up again. when he talked about the lichtenburg figure, did he mean that seeing it reminded him of his childhood friend's scar, or that it literally was that scar, because it sounded like it was talking about the latter. is it a book that manifests people's deep seeded guilt and punishes them for it? looking forward to learning more about this world.
What I love so much about these stories (I’m new to them, I’ve only listened to 1-4 so far) is that every story teller is so ‘normal’. They’re not ‘final girls’, they’re ordinary and they actually do realistic things unlike lots of horror story characters. It makes it feel way more real, like a casual diary entry, and i think that’s why they’re so spooky- because of the colloquial tone and the way these don’t seem that unrealistic. As if all the supernatural/scary/unrealistic stuff that happens in the stories could happen in real life and slip by us, unnoticed.
IKR? Everything knits together from the very first episode, but the clues that it’s happening are few and far between until the plot slams into you from behind.
I know! Like how every event early on that deals with The Stranger loops back around to the ritual. I can practically hear Nikolai running around screaming "CoLLeCt ThE sKiNs!"
My theory is that the donation place sold it so cheap because they wanted to get rid of it, maybe it just travels from person to person until it is destroyed.
Can I just appreciate the title being "Page Turner" not only the subject but also giving the listener their first real confirmation of the super natural and making them want to keep going
It seems like just like the previous story, these doppelgangers are testing the protagonists and they fail from their point of view when they basically don't follow the idiot horror movie character tropes like opening the thing that says "don't open" or in this case just got rid of the book instead of keeping it. I think the book might have become useless when Dominic decided to get rid of it.
It's so interesting to relisten from the beginning and catch all the references you missed. Also interesting to note that Jon doesn't have a single moment of skepticism about this statement
a thing that i wish someone has immediately explained to me: the way John pronounces names "Gerard" and "Jared" makes them almost indistinguishable from each other, unless you're used to hearing posh British. son of Mary Keay, a goth with certain ties to to Leitner books mentioned in this episode, is named Gerard. later in the series a recurring character named Jared also makes an appearance in the statements. I'd advise checking transcripts if you can't tell which one is mentioned (there are a couple of rare instances like that; since these plotlines don't intersect, the issue doesn't come up often).
I wouldn't class jons accent as posh British. It's certainly a well elucated dialect but it's hardly Kensington or Etonian. We have a lot of accents lmao
I have trouble listening to podcast, and yes, I realize how late I am to the party and listening to this, but I genuinely am starting to like this a lot. It's fun to listen while drawing or can't sleep and rather stare at my ceiling than watch a show or listen to music. In short: Fuck yeah I don't regret finding this
Same here, I've been listening to the playlist for a while while I paint and draw, it's really nice to listen to - I've never much been into podcasts, but this one is really good
Same here, I also am not much of an auditory person, podcasts don't rlly process in my brain, but im trying this out bc all my friends are into it, and even tho I constantly have to replay it to hear the story being said, it's enjoyable and I listen to it going to sleep as well.
It shall be so fun to go back through every episode once i have context. All i can muster for now are my mousebrained thoughts about "sky?? portal tower?? ozone--sulfur? flesh? lightning??"
Well there's a lot of sources saying that the strike of lightning is preceded by the smell of Ozone, his friend's skin was apparently used to make the book, his friend was struck by lightning
You cannot imagine. I’m almost to the end of the series, and coming back now, my jaw dropped at all the plot points dropped one after another in the last half of this episode.
I'm back and I was right about the lightning but not the skin, we get to meet him later (pretty nice guy) he was looking for just the right book to help him
Giving it away "wouldn't count" reminds me of the story of the djinn's bottle. It contained a wish granting demon, but had to be sold on before you died or you'd got to hell. The catch was, you had to sell it for less than you bought it for. You can't give it away. So eventually, someone would be unable to sell. Add that to the fact that the Lesser Key mentioned is a demonology book... I love this episode.
just finished this log and i have the chills. i know there’s absolutely a story beneath the surface, or perhaps multiple, or perhaps a countless amount. i wonder what’s ahead of me
On a relisten, and... **SPOILERS FOR MAG 81** - - - - - - - - - - "The incident in 1994" is a hell of a way for Jon to refer to his childhood trauma. I don't believe we got a date in MAG 81, but Jon being 8 in 94 does check out. Which also means he's optimistic enough to believe that he's the last person to have come in contact with a Leitner (apart from the guy who got eaten by Mr. Spider RIP).
You think it was Mr Spider? I thought it was refering to the day Leitner's library was breached, and all the books were stolen back by the entites. Since he said "last event WE heard" or something along those lines. I may defintely be mistaking though lol
@@space_0wl480 I didn't think about the attack on Leitner's library! I guess it could be, though I'm still leaning more towards Mr. Spider. I don't recall if we ever got a timeframe as to when Leitner lost his library. I've been thinking of it as a long time before the series, but 1994 WAS a long time before the series, so... maybe? Good thought!
@@amandabarylski9961 Jon's in his 30s, if I remember correctly. We're in 2018, so he would have been like 6 in 1994, if we put him at in 2018. It can fit!
I think is actually somewhat funnier and sadder because based on the cannon dates, Jon has his 28th birthday at season one (that happens in 2016) at this point he is likely still 27 but even if he is 28 that means that he would only be 6 or 5 in 94, he met Mr. Spider at age 8. That means that he is probably talking about the fire on the libary - as well as the use of "we" to reffer to the Institute. In conclusion Jon is literally ignoring his own trauma while making his notes, pretending that this is the first sign the books are still out there because his denial is just that strong. Is the same as he going "nothing supernatural ever happened in my hometown ever" in episode 2.
honestly reading the comments is pretty helpful because otherwise i would not remember ANY of the names. i have no clue what half the characters are called and if they do appear again i will likely not recognize them.
Somehow hearing "Gerard Keay" (i've seen the name passed around by the fans) really jolted me. was not expecting for him to come in so soon. Also I keep having to move back 10 seconds because I'm trying to do other things and it's really adding to the atmosphere. Edit: OMG Thanks for 5 likes!!!! Holy cow, I've never had this many likes before!!!!!! Thank y'all so much!!!!!!!!1
Woah woah woah, hold on a second- So I'm _almost_ finished with season 1 and I came here to recap some Keay stuff, but the book caught my attention "From Higher" or "Out of the Heights", with pictures of a *cliff/mountain and a sky that makes you feel like you're falling into it* ?? I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE (Tell me guys, am I into something here?)
I think one of the things I like about this episode in particular is that it highlights that John doesn't think the supernatural can't occur. He just knows that most of the things people say happened to them is actually nothing.
First time listener and this one really got to me. The ozone smell and the nausea and the headache gives me sensory overload just thinking about it! Very effective! Edit: One of my favorite horror novels is called Mr B Gone by Clive Barker and This episode definitely reminds me of it so much
dont read this comment if youve havent caught up yet on the series . . . . , its intersting listening to this episode again cause its one the very few outside of near the end of the season that john dosnt question if this statemeant is true or not. from the wording at the end it honestly sounds like hes convinced these book do actually cause harm to people yet with so many other statemeants he writes them off at the beginning
@Katrine O. I mean, end of s1 points out that he believes some of this stuff, but refuses to admit it even to himself. It's more telling that he can't even bring himself to be sceptical of Leitners.
I'm not too fond of things like audio books or podcasts or anything like that, I'm the kind of person who also needs visual stuff, but there's just something about this series that has me hooked. It's probably the mysterious horror aspect to it. Not the sterootypical horror stuff like in movies, but this feels almost genuine? I'm not sure how to explain it but it feels genuinely thought out. I'm not saying other horror series like movies or books aren't thought out, I feel like they just use a lot of the same stuff and, although each is unique, they just all feel the same but with different characters, setting, and storyline, if that makes sense.
ok ive gotta say this, my brain as soon as it heard GRBookworm (Deactivated) my brain went like: *_Remember the guy called Graham ? the one that ate books?_* Honestly it probably has no relativity to this one but i just had to comment it.
This is the episode that got me hooked on this series. Something about the description of the book *vastly* fascinated me, and the mystery regarding the Library of Jurgen Leitner had me intrigued.
Here I am, years after first discovering this series, coming back to listen to it for my 4th or 5th time. It's been a good while since i last listened, and even knowing everything that's going to happen, I still get such a sense of dread when listening. This was such a well done series
holy shit i turned around when listening to this and just barely saw a person with long hair just cross the corner of my window and nearly gave me a heart attack
I cant even count the number of times things like this happened to me. My favorite and most memorable moment was when john read "and then the lights went out." Just as i was flipping the light switch. And it wouldnt turn on. Nonoe of the lights would. Obviously it just turned out to be a power shortage but oh my god the timing was immaculate and i was so fricking glad it happened during the day time because i have a HORRIBLE fear of the dark NSNSNDJDJD
I just started this podcast, so I don't know anything about it, but I do know that the Keys of Solomon are famous grimoires involving demonology, so this should be very interesting
wholeheartedly love/hate that this is amalgamation of two creepiest things in series: evil books and the sky what have you done to me. i liked reading.
Lapsang Souchong. My parents favourite tea, I grew up drinking it. It has a fabulous smoky, heady smell and the taste is absolutely beautiful. It tastes like pure comfort.
Wow! I love how these stories horror creeps up to a climax that doesn't go exactly as expected, then a bit of follow up info at the end. Great lovecraftian horror on this one
really enjoying the stories so far, though I wish people didn't fill the comments of very early episodes with hints at spoilers even if they are vague. I enjoy seeing peoples thoughts on each episode after listening but the constant references to future events make me feel nervous about continuing to do so now.
I’ve been binging this series since this morning and was so enamored by the stories that I didn’t realize my phone was dying. Bravo, Rusty Quill team. Amazing work 😭
Interesting that mary was dead 4 years. Most things happen September, November, or winter, but 4 years is also the amount of time Johnathan has worked for the institute so far
i think im going to have to relisten to this i had to look up what so many things meant and people in the comments are so much smarter than me , i didn't even think something was wrong with the "real leather"
Same 😆! Got interested cause someone recommended this is a random booktuber video. I might need a relisten after finishing this cause I'm a dumb dumb to know such details XD
this is my third time listening through the whole thing in 3 months. i hear Jurgen leitner and no matter where i am (which includes class), ill just say "motherFUCKING JURGEN LEITNER". ive gotten many weird looks before
I absolutely love this, all of it so far and I still have so far left to go. As of right now this has been my favorite entry. With so far yet to go I'm sure I'll run into many more favorites. I will be sharing!
*spoilers* Wait, why the heck was leitner commissioning books? I thought his whole thing was tma scp essentially Also, "walking felt as natural as falling" gotta love the selective language Also also, I love how the emphasis of prices and choices appear this early with the cost for the book
Stopping here for now. These are kinda interesting. Not what i expected but still cool so far. Leaving this here to remind myself this is where I left off because I don't feel like writing it down.
I shouldn’t be watching this at 9:22 but I am and I am going to regret it and not be able to sleep and will have multiple nightmares but I will still watch it cause I’m stupid and this podcast is amazing
I can almost guarantee that Mary Keay had a copy of the Necronomicon. Also, Latin is not used primely in religious texts. It is, in fact, used in almost every alchemical and daemonical authority, and fluent comprehension of these sources in today's era is certainly scarce, if not non-existent...
"if it was tea it was years old" the british: oh shit that's spooky
I was gasping at the lack of milk and elderly tea
Asia will air strike the fool for that
lmaoooo
i’m pretty sure it’s a universal brittish experience of finding old tea so not really. someone probably just forgot it
loving the archivist's rage at his predecessor's carelessness
Tooki Wolfpaint I would too if she basically threw every case in the trash and instead of organizing them she just said, “eh”.
Look at Robert Emerson’s comment from a few days ago, their theory is... interesting.
It's still good knowing the whole story
We sympathize with his rage because we've been in that place.
Speaking as a librarian with several questionable predecessors, it's a Whole Big Mood and I will be salty till the day I get a new job.
"It felt like real leather." Me in the background: "IT'S SKIN! IT'S HUMAN SKIN!"
I was doing the same. My cousin looked as me like I was crazy 😂😂
How did I not pick up on that?
first thought, same with thw package one should hold onto for a while, I was absoutly convinced it would be a coffin before he even ageed
Necronomicon moment
Sameee
I do love how Jonathan sim's real voice is very monotonous and dull but his impressions of the other characters statements is so realistic
Capturing their hesitation to their chuckles
It makes me believe he actually wanted to be a voice actor.
I mean the reports would definitely not say the person paused there or was a little scared while talking about this, he must have added it himself
There's a reason ;)
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice In my defense, they did say tha unlike Gertrude John had some 10% of his own acting skills added to the recordings.
Jon was a theatre kid, change my mind.
just a typical dangeon master :D
🙂
mary keay had the bee movie script tattooed on her in sanskrit
BHAHAHAHA
yes
patri omg the duck in your prof pic is adorable
@@camiepotatopattie8754 thank you! it is actually my dream to one day have a little farm with many ducks running around
patri same here, I love ducks.
So we're all in agreement: All these books are made from people's skin
Nothing too unusual about anthropodermic bibliopegy.
Of course
spoilers:
it is confirmed later in the show
HOLY CRAP I DIDN’T REALIZE THAT
@Santos Kemmer no they all come from the same source can’t say too much without spoiling.
i just got myself into TMA and one thing it taught me..is that horror is more scary when bad things DIDN'T happen
yeah, potential is scarier for it gets you to fill the gaps in contrasts to things happening when those miss the point for you.
@@SingingSealRiana I have no idea what that means but you sounded really educated like Jonathan Sims.
@@fruitloop8481 suspenssion and the horror you imagine can be way scarier than a shocking display.
I have a habit to write comments while half asleep, in a language not my own, unable to see my keyboard that likes to eat letters while haveing a mild case of dyslexia . . . maybe not a good habit
agreed
That's exactly what I'm thinking starting this adventure
jared just, took this guys trash can? i know its a small thing like they arent that expensive and extenuating circumstances and all but he really did just take this dudes trash can
asking the real questions
$4,995 was for the book, $5 was for the wastebin
Jared puts the money in his hand: here, get yourself a new wastebin
Can't have shit in Detroit.
One mans trash is another mans treasure
"It felt like real leather"
Me: Aw, that ain't good.
9:23
*grbookworm1818*
G.R happens to be the initials of one, Gertrude Robinson, Jonathan's predecessor. 1818 is the founding date of the Magnus Institute.
I can imagine that an archivist would be quite the bookworm too.
Could be a coincidence, but not likely.
You are a genius
You know too much
You are an observant one. I missed that on my first go, and I managed to guess the 14, the Panopticon twist, the Scars and even the Lighter. Hope you had fun working things out as you listened to the show. That's the best bit imo.
Came to the comment section looking for this :)
Wont lie that I squealed "GERTRUDE ROBINSON" when I heard the buyer's usernamd
“...I knew it from the scar on the back of my childhood friend, who’d been struck by lightning because of me.”
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT!!?? THIS GUY???
Who??
@@JA-iu3eq oh thx
@@JA-iu3eq which episode?
Relistening for the first time and I also jumped so hard holy shit
what the fuck he said it as I read this
Raise your hand if you also thought Mary's son was named Jared, not Gerard (apparently the second one is correct)
Here is my hand
This has been the one thing about this series that drives me bonkers. WHY is he named Gerard but they pronounce it 'Jared.' Why.
@@swiftfeathers7028 accent?
@@swiftfeathers7028 Nicknames, aliases, accents, any number of stuff is common for The Magnus Institute lol
@@swiftfeathers7028 He doesn't. They sound similar because of accent, but he does (in his own accent) pronounce Gerard as Gerard and Jared as Jared.
I actually feel the mother was the real villain and Jared just takes care of the mess she and lightner made
Got the same vibe
Yes!
vine boom
I know it’s beside the point, but it is Extremely Adorable for Gerry to have gone through a “gothy eye sketch” phase, just like any other artist. Growing up under the shadow of The Beholding or not, questionably tasteful realistic eyes are a part of growing up. I think it’s really humanizing.
Every artist can relate hahaha
You didn't have to call me out like that TWT
gerry is so me fr
Why is that so relatable?
The static buildup whenever John says "Ex Altiora" is a nice touch I didn't catch on my first listen.
He works with *lights,* he has a *lightner* book, his friend got struck by *lightning.* This light thing can’t be a coincidence
Leitner. you may be right about the lights and lightning, but the leitner bit is a coincidence.
It’s lit
@@Cheshire5174awww i was like “hehe deltarune”
hehe deltarune
Decided to leave the playlist running while I went to sleep. Huge-ass thunder storm hit my hood right afterwards. Then I happened to have one of my sleep paralysis episodes. This is normal for me, but this one was waaaay more intense than I'm used to. Got so darn scared, I had to force myself awake -just in time to hear what had to be old Zeus's loudest fart in history. Immediately I went and turned the laptop off and unplugged the charger, and my desktop's plug, just before the lights went down in my house. I don't know if the overload could have harmed my stuff, but I'm thankful to the demons from hell for giving me the heads up. 10/10 would do it again!
zues farts
'old Zeus' loudest fart' lmao, i love the way you wrote this
✝️💜🏳️🌈
I am in the middle of watching this and I Laughed out loud when I read this
Just the image of Zeus farthing causing a lightning storm makes me laugh
I really love how subtle and understated these stories are. Nothing too over-the-top or bombastic like a bad creepypasta, no blood dripping from the walls, just a low key and deeply unsettling mystery
For now...
i mean, (possible spoilers, but i don’t think it’s for anything too important) there’s one guy who walked through a building with like, blood everywhere(? at least VERY OBVIOUS after reaching the destination), and the host was talking about skinning people, but bro did not notice...,,.
i agree! that is what i like about tma’s horror!
(episode described is called “uncanny valley.” don’t remember the number, might’ve been 73?)
@@thegreatknowingTo be fair, in season 1 I believe,,, there was that one guy who was literally hammering raw meat into his walls which IS pretty creepypasta-esque
Stuff that has to do with the Flesh is pretty creepypasta-esque in general
@@happylittleloser the man upstairs, maybe? it is pretty funny, the contrast of the tma fears. the very possible idea that we will all die by our own hands, drowning in debt, a vicious and continuing cycle, and.... meat.
(it's deeper than that, but shhhshhh)
This might change how I shop at local book stores....
Actually, it made me want to visit one.
But I mean, if the price is good...
Just make sure to check for scars and marks from your friends skin and you’ll be fine
The Magnus Archives need more love. More likes, more subscribers, more attention. These are great, especially to listen to while assembling models.
I've been knitting while I listen and this is literally the most work I've gotten in on my project in months.
Same here. Terrain building can be quite tedious at times when it comes to repetitive tasks... very engaging. Thank you rusty quill
I do house cleaning while listening.
I especially like how short they are, I can do it while cooking dinner.
Same, I can crochet while listening to TMA for hours
"the lesser key of Solomon" is a book about how to summon demons. It was written by a catholic priest a very long time ago. It's a real thing, look it up.
Love the little details that include things in the real world - just ties them together and gives a world underneath ours vibe
The Lesser Key of Solomon is indeed a demonology text, but it's author is unknown and it was compiled from previously existing texts in the mid 17th century
Looks at the two variations of it I have sat in a drawer below my makeshift alter alongside a pile of other occult texts. Now where can I find one of these Lightner editions, they seem a fantastic centerpiece.
There's also a key of Solomon and greater key of Solomon, though I'm not sure if those are more of rumours than proven to be real literary works
It wasn't written by a Catholic priest it's an anonymous grimoire compiled at some time in the 17th century no one is sure who compiled it
I love that in the first 3 he's just like: "Eh sounds like bullshit" but in this one he's like "Oh fuck a Lightner bokk god damn it" It really makes you think that these are important, dangerous and too common to be dismissed. Excited to hear more hints like that.
You're onto something :)
Uh- pls tell me you know?
@@StayHappyDannyI just started a relisten because I had nothing better to do and now his visceral reaction to Lietner's is less "funny but intriguing" and more sad.
@@cantaloupegodling352 yay so glad you finished the series hope you had a horrifying time
Relistening this after finishing s4 *screem*
This is such an info-packed ep.
"He looked at the title, then flicked through it very quickly, before laughing, just once and nodding, apparently to himself, as though he’d just come to some sort of decision." - iconic
"If I never hear the name Jurgen Leitner again it will be too soon." *insert eye emoji*
" Jurgen Leitner has done the world enough harm and we must pursue all available avenues to ensure that he does no more." *eye emoji intensifies*
now im scared
and to think i just started this podcast
im reading the comments and I'm extremely nervous
@@hiddenace1953 Heh, dw, the podcast is lovely. There's no reason to be scared. Much :)
@@hiddenace1953 BE VERY SCARED-
Lol it's a great podcast, very engaging, I'm a few seasons in rn and ahhh idk it's great
But very scary. Not just scary, but very scary too.
I cannot describe this podcast in words, idk why I started typing this, I'll go back to shipping Jon and Martin in the corner and wondering whether the fandom has collectively given up on their ship name
wooow, there's so much to unpack here. what's really exciting is hearing the narrator talk about a case that he clearly takes seriously! i had him kinda pegged as a sceptic who could only ever begrudgingly admit that sometimes details didn't add up in ways that couldn't be explained, but apparently spooky books with supernatural powers are something he accepts as real and cause for alarm! apparently it's something the institute has a history of dealing with? i hope we get more info on that front. secondly, the stuff with mary and jared key is interesting. whatever these books are, it seems that mary was a fan, and jared was not. also, was mary a ghost? her supposed death sounded pretty horrific, but the description the statement giver gave of her didn't make her sound at all incorporeal. the way her tattoos seem to match the description of the sheets of skin covered in sanskrit is pretty troubling though. i don't even know what to say about the statement giver's original spooky book. it was good set up for introducing us to the concept of the library of yurgen lightner, which i assume will come up again. when he talked about the lichtenburg figure, did he mean that seeing it reminded him of his childhood friend's scar, or that it literally was that scar, because it sounded like it was talking about the latter. is it a book that manifests people's deep seeded guilt and punishes them for it? looking forward to learning more about this world.
and did you notice the fishing line and razor Dominic mentioned on her desk,,,,,,
Did you continue and get your questions answered? You certainly asked the right questions :)
What I love so much about these stories (I’m new to them, I’ve only listened to 1-4 so far) is that every story teller is so ‘normal’. They’re not ‘final girls’, they’re ordinary and they actually do realistic things unlike lots of horror story characters. It makes it feel way more real, like a casual diary entry, and i think that’s why they’re so spooky- because of the colloquial tone and the way these don’t seem that unrealistic. As if all the supernatural/scary/unrealistic stuff that happens in the stories could happen in real life and slip by us, unnoticed.
I'm relistening rn and holy shit I didn't expect so many major characters to turn up or be mentioned in one episode in early season one
IKR? Everything knits together from the very first episode, but the clues that it’s happening are few and far between until the plot slams into you from behind.
I’m on my 2nd listen through and I audibly laughed at “GRbookworm” 😂 like… nice. 👌🏼
Ikr?
I know! Like how every event early on that deals with The Stranger loops back around to the ritual. I can practically hear Nikolai running around screaming "CoLLeCt ThE sKiNs!"
Yeah it's so gratifying go find them all
My theory is that the donation place sold it so cheap because they wanted to get rid of it, maybe it just travels from person to person until it is destroyed.
Can I just appreciate the title being "Page Turner" not only the subject but also giving the listener their first real confirmation of the super natural and making them want to keep going
It seems like just like the previous story, these doppelgangers are testing the protagonists and they fail from their point of view when they basically don't follow the idiot horror movie character tropes like opening the thing that says "don't open" or in this case just got rid of the book instead of keeping it. I think the book might have become useless when Dominic decided to get rid of it.
well... you'll see
It's so interesting to relisten from the beginning and catch all the references you missed. Also interesting to note that Jon doesn't have a single moment of skepticism about this statement
The sheer vitriol he has for Jurgen Leitner gives me fire.
@@mimkyodar thanks for teaching me the word "vitriol"
a thing that i wish someone has immediately explained to me: the way John pronounces names "Gerard" and "Jared" makes them almost indistinguishable from each other, unless you're used to hearing posh British. son of Mary Keay, a goth with certain ties to to Leitner books mentioned in this episode, is named Gerard. later in the series a recurring character named Jared also makes an appearance in the statements. I'd advise checking transcripts if you can't tell which one is mentioned (there are a couple of rare instances like that; since these plotlines don't intersect, the issue doesn't come up often).
I wouldn't class jons accent as posh British. It's certainly a well elucated dialect but it's hardly Kensington or Etonian.
We have a lot of accents lmao
Elias’ accent is posher than Jon’s but he actually says Gerard not Jared. I think Jon’s just being a silly goofy boi with his version
I have trouble listening to podcast, and yes, I realize how late I am to the party and listening to this, but I genuinely am starting to like this a lot.
It's fun to listen while drawing or can't sleep and rather stare at my ceiling than watch a show or listen to music.
In short: Fuck yeah I don't regret finding this
I hope you're having a lot of fun with it!
Same
Same here, I've been listening to the playlist for a while while I paint and draw, it's really nice to listen to - I've never much been into podcasts, but this one is really good
I'm listening while doing my homework, the real horror is maths honestly but this podcast is rly interesting
Same here, I also am not much of an auditory person, podcasts don't rlly process in my brain, but im trying this out bc all my friends are into it, and even tho I constantly have to replay it to hear the story being said, it's enjoyable and I listen to it going to sleep as well.
The sheer talent and range of Jon's voice acter is astounding.
Jon
bro never got rid of the placeholder name
The fact that only now I find out about the Magnus Archives is a crime, these stories are great.
It shall be so fun to go back through every episode once i have context. All i can muster for now are my mousebrained thoughts about "sky?? portal tower?? ozone--sulfur? flesh? lightning??"
Well there's a lot of sources saying that the strike of lightning is preceded by the smell of Ozone, his friend's skin was apparently used to make the book, his friend was struck by lightning
You cannot imagine. I’m almost to the end of the series, and coming back now, my jaw dropped at all the plot points dropped one after another in the last half of this episode.
I'm back and I was right about the lightning but not the skin, we get to meet him later (pretty nice guy) he was looking for just the right book to help him
Gerry.....my sweet emo child UGH
GOTH! GOTH, NOT EMO! 😬
u mean goth?
HES GOTH, NOT EMO- /nm
"I'm not crazy, I have a JOB!"
what a guy XD
Listening to this episode was no skin off my back!
i hate you so much
Clever
"Maybe calf..."
Me, studying anthropodermic biblioplagy, recognizing the description of "Maybe calf": 👀 oop
Giving it away "wouldn't count" reminds me of the story of the djinn's bottle. It contained a wish granting demon, but had to be sold on before you died or you'd got to hell. The catch was, you had to sell it for less than you bought it for. You can't give it away. So eventually, someone would be unable to sell.
Add that to the fact that the Lesser Key mentioned is a demonology book... I love this episode.
just finished this log and i have the chills. i know there’s absolutely a story beneath the surface, or perhaps multiple, or perhaps a countless amount. i wonder what’s ahead of me
On a relisten, and... **SPOILERS FOR MAG 81**
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"The incident in 1994" is a hell of a way for Jon to refer to his childhood trauma. I don't believe we got a date in MAG 81, but Jon being 8 in 94 does check out. Which also means he's optimistic enough to believe that he's the last person to have come in contact with a Leitner (apart from the guy who got eaten by Mr. Spider RIP).
You think it was Mr Spider? I thought it was refering to the day Leitner's library was breached, and all the books were stolen back by the entites. Since he said "last event WE heard" or something along those lines. I may defintely be mistaking though lol
@@space_0wl480 I didn't think about the attack on Leitner's library! I guess it could be, though I'm still leaning more towards Mr. Spider. I don't recall if we ever got a timeframe as to when Leitner lost his library. I've been thinking of it as a long time before the series, but 1994 WAS a long time before the series, so... maybe? Good thought!
@@amandabarylski9961 Jon's in his 30s, if I remember correctly. We're in 2018, so he would have been like 6 in 1994, if we put him at in 2018. It can fit!
@@space_0wl480 I believe the breach was before and how the books came out into the modern wild
I think is actually somewhat funnier and sadder because based on the cannon dates, Jon has his 28th birthday at season one (that happens in 2016) at this point he is likely still 27 but even if he is 28 that means that he would only be 6 or 5 in 94, he met Mr. Spider at age 8. That means that he is probably talking about the fire on the libary - as well as the use of "we" to reffer to the Institute.
In conclusion Jon is literally ignoring his own trauma while making his notes, pretending that this is the first sign the books are still out there because his denial is just that strong. Is the same as he going "nothing supernatural ever happened in my hometown ever" in episode 2.
honestly reading the comments is pretty helpful because otherwise i would not remember ANY of the names. i have no clue what half the characters are called and if they do appear again i will likely not recognize them.
These are soo great...cant wait to get my stories published and read some day.
So Gerard just... walked away with this guy’s trash can?
Somehow hearing "Gerard Keay" (i've seen the name passed around by the fans) really jolted me. was not expecting for him to come in so soon.
Also I keep having to move back 10 seconds because I'm trying to do other things and it's really adding to the atmosphere.
Edit: OMG Thanks for 5 likes!!!! Holy cow, I've never had this many likes before!!!!!! Thank y'all so much!!!!!!!!1
i thought it was Jared lol
Woah woah woah, hold on a second-
So I'm _almost_ finished with season 1 and I came here to recap some Keay stuff, but the book caught my attention
"From Higher" or "Out of the Heights", with pictures of a *cliff/mountain and a sky that makes you feel like you're falling into it* ?? I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE
(Tell me guys, am I into something here?)
I also love Tom Ellis
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(Yep)
“it felt like real leather” “smelt like ozone” me: ITS FUCKING SKIN HOLY SHIT
7 years later, on my 2nd listen and im realizing now that 9:40 GRbookworm was probably Gertrude lol
I think one of the things I like about this episode in particular is that it highlights that John doesn't think the supernatural can't occur. He just knows that most of the things people say happened to them is actually nothing.
Truly enthralling performance by the voice actor. Well done!
im new to the fandom, and im hyped to see these podcasts come together.
omg hi! the first listen is always cool af especially when things start to get in place and you figure out some stuff so hope you enjoy!
This would make such an amazing live action show. Like holy crap I am enthralled with this series. I'm binging till it's done
When Jonathan reads something from a Leitner book it gets staticky.
this dudes voice is so relaxing... I could listen to it all day
First time listener and this one really got to me. The ozone smell and the nausea and the headache gives me sensory overload just thinking about it! Very effective!
Edit: One of my favorite horror novels is called Mr B Gone by Clive Barker and This episode definitely reminds me of it so much
What harm ever came from reading a book?
A mummy's reference...You're a cultured person as well
You MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!!
THE MUMMY??
RELISTENING TO EVERYTHING ESP IN THIS EP IS JUST *INSERT KERMIT FLAILING* WOW!!!! Also pff, Gerard having poorly dyed black hair is 👌
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its intersting listening to this episode again cause its one the very few outside of near the end of the season that john dosnt question if this statemeant is true or not. from the wording at the end it honestly sounds like hes convinced these book do actually cause harm to people yet with so many other statemeants he writes them off at the beginning
@Katrine O. I mean, end of s1 points out that he believes some of this stuff, but refuses to admit it even to himself.
It's more telling that he can't even bring himself to be sceptical of Leitners.
@Katrine O. He/The Archives knows the books are real, as he says most cases are bs but there are a few cases that very much real
The Books and Janes Prentiss are the only spooky things Jon let's us know he believes in before the confession of the end of S1.
I'm not too fond of things like audio books or podcasts or anything like that, I'm the kind of person who also needs visual stuff, but there's just something about this series that has me hooked. It's probably the mysterious horror aspect to it. Not the sterootypical horror stuff like in movies, but this feels almost genuine? I'm not sure how to explain it but it feels genuinely thought out. I'm not saying other horror series like movies or books aren't thought out, I feel like they just use a lot of the same stuff and, although each is unique, they just all feel the same but with different characters, setting, and storyline, if that makes sense.
Gerard just straight up stole this guy’s trash can??💀
ok ive gotta say this, my brain as soon as it heard GRBookworm (Deactivated) my brain went like: *_Remember the guy called Graham ? the one that ate books?_*
Honestly it probably has no relativity to this one but i just had to comment it.
A year later but lots of people's were saying Gertrude Robinson
I won’t spoil anything, but I will say ONE of you is correct. Wont say which one tho 👀
This is the episode that got me hooked on this series. Something about the description of the book *vastly* fascinated me, and the mystery regarding the Library of Jurgen Leitner had me intrigued.
Hehe vastly
I love that theres comments from months ago such a great series cant wait until protocol is finished
thoughts on the protocol finale?
Here I am, years after first discovering this series, coming back to listen to it for my 4th or 5th time. It's been a good while since i last listened, and even knowing everything that's going to happen, I still get such a sense of dread when listening. This was such a well done series
holy shit i turned around when listening to this and just barely saw a person with long hair just cross the corner of my window and nearly gave me a heart attack
I cant even count the number of times things like this happened to me. My favorite and most memorable moment was when john read "and then the lights went out." Just as i was flipping the light switch. And it wouldnt turn on. Nonoe of the lights would. Obviously it just turned out to be a power shortage but oh my god the timing was immaculate and i was so fricking glad it happened during the day time because i have a HORRIBLE fear of the dark NSNSNDJDJD
I just started this podcast, so I don't know anything about it, but I do know that the Keys of Solomon are famous grimoires involving demonology, so this should be very interesting
The magnus archives needs more attention, this podcast is great!
Overly Sarcastic Productions has your back buddy
this is so interesting to listen to while i work, i am absolutely starting to understand why people love this so much
Relistening to relive the good ol days
Started this series over again today and I'm giddy over all the connections already
This one reminds me a lot of The Starless Sea, strange book, the taste of the tea. Idk just getting vibes from it.
Yooo I love that book!
Coming from episode 200, Jon's disdain for Martin is somehow funny to me, consistently making me giggle 🤭🤭
Truly a one sides enemies to lovers
wholeheartedly love/hate that this is amalgamation of two creepiest things in series: evil books and the sky
what have you done to me. i liked reading.
Odd question: what was the name of the tea?
lapsang souchong!
"Lapsang Souchon" I believe.
Lapsang Souchong. My parents favourite tea, I grew up drinking it. It has a fabulous smoky, heady smell and the taste is absolutely beautiful. It tastes like pure comfort.
Not me falling asleep watching this in a good way I have insomnia but when I hear this dudes voice I fall asleep
Wow! I love how these stories horror creeps up to a climax that doesn't go exactly as expected, then a bit of follow up info at the end. Great lovecraftian horror on this one
I started watching this with my cat and we both really enjoy it.
really enjoying the stories so far, though I wish people didn't fill the comments of very early episodes with hints at spoilers even if they are vague. I enjoy seeing peoples thoughts on each episode after listening but the constant references to future events make me feel nervous about continuing to do so now.
Captions please?
You can find the transcripts online. Just look up tma transcripts.
I fell asleep listening to this. Probably not a very good idea, considering the dreams I have are very vivid and this is a horror podcast
This is my first time listening to this series. But I knew something was wrong when the "Key of solomon" was mentioned.
Wowowowow. This is my fourth relisten and im still reeling at the things ive missed the first time around.
I’ve been binging this series since this morning and was so enamored by the stories that I didn’t realize my phone was dying. Bravo, Rusty Quill team. Amazing work 😭
Interesting that mary was dead 4 years. Most things happen September, November, or winter, but 4 years is also the amount of time Johnathan has worked for the institute so far
My favorite episodes of the entire thing involve Lightner's books or the individuals/entities involved with them.
Extraordinary. Think you have hardly scratched the surface, through no fault of your own.
The mystery is perhaps very
illusive or hidden. Thank you.
How anyone can actually drink Lapsang Souchong rather than cooking with it is beyond me. That tea tastes like liquid beef jerky.
The Lapsang Souchong I sell at work tastes like that aftertaste you get after eating something sour
@@AerCloud o.o
I've heard if you put a little maple syrup in it you get maple bacon
Oh no, I grew up drinking it and it is still my favourite. It tastes like everything that makes you feel cozy and safe!
@@joybarker7906 I can see that - like cozying up next to a campfire in fall!
i think im going to have to relisten to this i had to look up what so many things meant and people in the comments are so much smarter than me , i didn't even think something was wrong with the "real leather"
Same 😆! Got interested cause someone recommended this is a random booktuber video. I might need a relisten after finishing this cause I'm a dumb dumb to know such details XD
@@joi_micaella loll i discovered it through an animatic that spoiled the whole thing, but i was so confused i barely understood anything XD
this is my third time listening through the whole thing in 3 months. i hear Jurgen leitner and no matter where i am (which includes class), ill just say "motherFUCKING JURGEN LEITNER". ive gotten many weird looks before
On my 4th relisten and mood, ever time I hear the name Juergen, TMA related or not I hear that monologue
Guessing by the title, is this is continuation of the previous notebook eater story?
Edit: oh my goodness. What is this story.
Oh my god. So Mary's ghost was written on all over because the/a book was made of her skin.
she's not a ghost~
@@albuseisenhorn3385 I mean...I know that now 😅
BONE BOOK BONE BOOK BONE BOOK
Skin book
Eating lemon slices while watching this
I absolutely love this, all of it so far and I still have so far left to go. As of right now this has been my favorite entry. With so far yet to go I'm sure I'll run into many more favorites. I will be sharing!
*spoilers*
Wait, why the heck was leitner commissioning books? I thought his whole thing was tma scp essentially
Also, "walking felt as natural as falling" gotta love the selective language
Also also, I love how the emphasis of prices and choices appear this early with the cost for the book
He wasn't. Stick with the series and this is explained.
@@mimkyodar yeah, I've already listened through the whole series. Honestly, I probably just forgot, I have a bad memory spmetimes
Stopping here for now. These are kinda interesting. Not what i expected but still cool so far. Leaving this here to remind myself this is where I left off because I don't feel like writing it down.
I shouldn’t be watching this at 9:22 but I am and I am going to regret it and not be able to sleep and will have multiple nightmares but I will still watch it cause I’m stupid and this podcast is amazing
I can almost guarantee that Mary Keay had a copy of the Necronomicon. Also, Latin is not used primely in religious texts. It is, in fact, used in almost every alchemical and daemonical authority, and fluent comprehension of these sources in today's era is certainly scarce, if not non-existent...
'I'm not some crazy person on the street, i have a job and am not prone to flights of fancy'
My guy, you work in theater, calm down.