The Sacred Meaning of China's Altar of Heaven
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- This feature-length documentary explores the first religion of China that existed before Daoism, Confucianism and Buddhism. The Altar of Heaven complex in Beijing, also known as Tian Tan, is the third most visited tourist site in China. Yet, very few in China understand that it was the place where the Emperor sacrificed and interceded for his people with the Supreme God who created all things. This most-high God is known as Shang Di, and Chinese history tells us that the imperial sacrifices to Shang Di go all the way back to the third millennium BCE. Can it be that the supreme God of China, who was worshiped by the Chinese people throughout most of their history, is the same Creator God of Judaism and of Christianity?
I believe that most human being naturally has an indescribable inner sixth sense of a one supreme being or deity. A Creator that love us impeccably. Including, ancient lands.
I am an American professor of economics. I was in China 12 years. Every Chinese I knew be lived in a spiritual world. All the ones I knew believed in the idea of a higher power, greater than humans. Belonging to a specific religion is good for some people and not for others. I think it is important to care about loving other people.
@@avecmoi9429 yes, karl marx was a good example of caring for others,
regardless of religion rejected as the opiate of the people.
Junior Lewing Koo,
the most remarkable thing is that
this ritual owes nothing to
Confucianism, Taoism or Buddhism,
considered to be the 3 main religions of China.
Even today, in front of every Chinese house,
you have the Altar To THE GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH.
How can we know when someone is behind us without looking back?
We don’t have six sense. It is devil and demons who speak to us and we think it’s six sense or it’s our feeling and emotion or uncontrollable thinking…
We are not sick or crazy… it is devil and demons who cause those in us and we think we are sick because we have no control,over those harmful thinking, imagination, feeling, and emotion…
They are not our thinking, feeling, and imagination
They are devil and demons making you think you are bad and harmful and they make you think that they are your thinking, feeling, and emotion and you are bad and they want to cause you to sin so they can destroy you in jail and prison…
They work in ways that if you think there is a supernatural world… you are a crazy person… they are powerful but they ain’t smart…
If they are smart they would know to stop winning and they wouldn’t intentionally sin since the beginning…
They are dumb but with power so they can destroy so you easily…
They can see you, they can see you straight through, they can see and they know your thinking, feeling, emotion, and so on…
Basically they can you as if you are so clear to them and you are clearer than crystal clear water to them.. while you can;t see them and they gang on you and set you up and control you and so much more…
Leave and left it all to god..
@@avecmoi9429 Yes, because Civilization came from the east and not Africa or Europe as you are taught. Everything is copied and plagiarised from China by the Jesuits.
This is by far one of the best documentaries i have watched. Thank you
Me too. Tq admin.
I'd like to believe that my ancestors worshipped God in Heaven; as in the Temple of Heaven in Beijing.
I believe they did with all my soul
+mary anne - Before the Spanish colonized the Philippines we had many gods/goddesses but we only had one supreme creator his name is (bathala) who created the universe and if you follow him with all your heart you would go to "kaluwalhatian/heaven" but if you sin or defy him you would be banished to "kasamaan/badness/hell"...he also has an enemy called (sitan) not to be confused with satan but they basically are the same, sitan tempts people to sin so that he could take their souls to (Kasmaan/badness/hell).
They did.
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The border sacrifice. The border is the boundary between Heaven and Earth, to the One God, the Father of Heaven and Earth... the Oatriarch of your spirit to mirror a father of your body. The 3rd level of heaven... that room was made "almost" perfect, not to be a replacement for heaven. They were also taught a sacred creation story on a board there that is now gone. The bull sacrifice represented the great sacrifice of the one connection... Jesua. But they pray to the Father.... through the Son, not both.
@@tuvoca825 "Our Father in Heaven" is how the Lord himself taught prayer to be done. The Trinitarian theology of adding "Jesus" and "Holy Spirit" is only something done in Christendom, in Western and Eastern Roman theology, that I would challenge as false religion, man made, a state government religion, that quite literally executed Apostles, and used their bones as "sacred relics" on public display in he earliest basilicas in Asia Minor, Constantinople, and the Eastern Roman Empire.
There are formulaic prayers in Rites of Zhou etc however I have not studied this area deep enough to thoroughly understand these archaic old prayers.
What I do know is that the concept of "Jesus" while not named as such is addressed by various titles synonymous to biblical ones, particularly those of the PERSON of God/Yahweh, like the "image of a man" or the anonymous "angel" that appears in various parts of Scripture. e.g. Nebuchadezzar's furnace, the angel in the field who changed Jacob's fate forever, the "man" who wrestled with Jacob on the hill at Peniel, the "angel of the Lord" seen by Manoah and his wife in Judges 13 who they later realised/suspected was "God" himself.
These are some of the titles for the Lord Jesus Christ that I have identified in the Chinese Classics:
⁃ 養生主 Zhuangzi, Joeng Sang Zyu - "Nourishing the Lord of Life
- 萬歲爺 Maan Seoi Je - "Lord of Ten Thousand Years"
- 天君 Tiānjūn, Tian Gwan -the "Prince of Heaven" or "Lord of Heaven"
- 天尊 Tiānzūn, Tian Zeon -the "Heavenly Venerable"
- 君世主 Gwan Sai Zyu -"Sovereign Lord (of the) World" (Song History) or "Monarch of the World"
- 天德王 Tin Dak Wong -"Heaven Ethics-morality-virtue King" (Song History)
Can you tell me more about the "sacred creation story on a board"? Where can more information about this be found?
Did you know the emperor of China at this time also functioned as the high priest? He has to sacrifice an ox at the Temple of Heaven.
If his sacrifice is accepted, the entire nation enjoys blessings. Not much different from the function of the high priest in the Old Testament.
Christ is both a King AND a High Priest. Is there no correlation to this dual function of the emperor mirroring this Biblical model?
Also really interesting is the application of red paper on the lintel and posts of doors and openings in houses during Chinese New Year. Isn't that a "corrupted form" of applying the Passover blood over the lintel and posts? The Passover happened just before the Israelite crossed over the Red Sea. Chinese people "cross over" to the New Year in similar way.
Too many clues of Chinese distant past, worshiping a Judeo-Christian God.
And the fact that the China is now the largest christian country I believe is no coincidence.
@@halodroidz wow never thought my mind would keep getting blown non stop ever since my conversion earlier this year in May. I seem to keep learning new things and it never stops. GOD IS amazing.
The Chinese are the Jews of the east...in more ways than one. Married to one...near impossible to speak.
@@julie9541 I could give you one more mind blower if you don't know already about it. God has written His holy name in our DNA.
Our DNA-strain is made up of 4 nucleid acids - Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine and Thymine. The so-called sulfuric bridge connects those 4 acids. This bridge appears in every single human out there in a scheme of 10-5-6-5. Meaning after 10 acids the sulfuric bridge appears, then after 5 acids, then after 6 and then after 5. This is a "rhythm" which always continues.
This scientific fact can be related to the Hebrew alphabet. Every Hebrew letter has a numeric value, for example the first letter of the alphabet א ("aleph") has a numeric value of 1 or the last letter ת ("tav") has a value of 400.
Now if you take the 10 from before you get a י
From the 5 you get a ה
From the 6 you get a ו
From the 5 you get a ה
This results into יהו ה which is YHWH, the name of God in the Bible.
@@halodroidz United States is largest christian country. Africa is largest christian continent with 685 million Christians
YHWH will make all hidden and secret things known!
Yes I agree! The only Abba YAHAWAH and his only YAHAWASHI yahawadah🙏🙏☝☝
Truth will come to those that honestly look for it. As time goes, another layer will be revealed. Just as the layers of onion shear it's skin.
What a blessing thank you for this incredible documentary it truly shows that our Lord continues to reveal himself to his people from eons past into today and will continue to do so in the future
Thank you for this great documentary AMEN
Thank you God Almighty.. Jesus saves!!!!
Jesus is dead like your great grandfather and granny you should worship your children
@@richardrichard5621 Jesus was is and is to come. He is risen.
@@tonn333 It's not just similarities, people are waiting for God's word for salvation. Because salvation is from the Jews, the Jewish Messiah.
@@Rita1962Ahnefeld salvation is from the God not men.
Good question regarding the BCE and the CE. The reason is simple. This documentary is addressed to Chinese people, and especially college educated non-Christian Chinese people. The designations of BC (Before Christ) and AD (Anno Domini = Year of the Lord) are western designations based on Christianity. Even in U.S. colleges BCE and CE are now used in History classes. I personally use BC and AD, but I hope to meet my audience where they are, using words and terms that they understand. Thanks for asking.
BCE = Before Christ Era , CE = AD Christ Era and after
I believe it means before common era and common era.
Even the of the Chinese language glorifies the one true God. For example the word "create" in Chinese is a mixture of the words "dust" "breath of mouth" "alive" and "to walk".
Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. -Genesis 2: 7
The God of the Bible is the one true God that the Chinese language is inspired by. He is the God of the whole world, including you and me.
Here is what He requires of us if we want to enter into His kingdom someday.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John 14: 6
Whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life, but whoever rejects Jesus will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them. -John 3: 36
Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. Then read the Bible, pray to God and obey Him.
I hope you will consider the great importance of your eternal soul.
Yes, very interesting.
To create is 創造 cong zou, meaning "to begin to make". The first character 創 cong contains a 丶zyu in the centre, like the yod in Hebrew representing the hand or work of God. Alongside it, just below, is 艮 gan, the "seventh" trigram, meaning divine perfection, and the character is the picture of a man looking back: 目 (“eye”) + 人 (“person”) showing a person looking back (Ji Xusheng, 2004). Hence man was made after the rest of creation. Then it spells 人良 jan loeng "man (is) good, virtuous, respectable", which is 倉 cong meaning "granary; berth; sea", like the imagery of having children like sand in the seashore, or metaphors like the "seed" of Adam, etc.
The Chinese CUV, however just says 造 cou, e.g. 神造 san cou "God made". Which is a 辶 walking radical and carrying a 告 gou, to "tell, announce, inform; accuse".
> The word "create" in Chinese is a mixture of the words "dust" "breath of mouth" "alive" and "to walk".
What word was this?
Glory to Jesus
He is dead move on Jesus is the cause of all this fighting over him
@@richardrichard5621 I hope you know Jesus love for you!
@@richardrichard5621 Jesus is buda reason why his teachings of carpentry are so useful in Japan and China all over Asia you gonna see the pagodas made whit mason level knowledge of architecture and cutting wood the ones who manipulate the Bible for they earnings are the ones to blame
Shang Di means: Most High God
@Fred Eric Actrually 帝 means emperor，王 means king
@@wg6431 Not exactly. It's a cosmological pictogram. The addition of "di" 帝 to emperor's titles was introduced after the death of the Qin Shi Huang 秦始皇in 210 BC, posthumously by his followers or imperial cult.
> An asterism joining three stars of Ursa Major with three of Ursa Minor, together with Thuban and Kochab. Around 2000 BCE the three top-to-bottom lines would have crossed at the north celestial pole, where the god 帝 dwelt (Pankenier, 2004).
In the way that Christ "rode on a donkey" (2 donkeys: mother and cold donkey), a cosmological metaphor or allegory for the "donkeys" in the constellation Ursa Minor, "Shangdi" particular the "di" 帝 part is a reference to the North Star that sits above Ursa Minor and is the highest place in "heaven" or "Highest Heaven" ie the "Highest Lord" or Lord on High, as seen from the Northern Hemisphere. -- Similar occurrences in Scripture mirror imagery/ideas in astrological movements. Apocalyptic prophecies in Revelation are full of these. -- e.g. the "Lord on High" as "yehova marom" (בַּמָּרוֹם יְהוָה) in Psalm 93:4-5.
> The character's first attested use is for “God of Heaven”; it was later used as a title for emperors. Shuowen erroneously interprets the character to be a phono-semantic compound (形聲／形声, OC *teːɡs) : semantic 丄 (“up; above”) + phonetic 朿 (OC *sʰeɡs).
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%B8%9D
The "帝 means emperor" thing really is a modern misconception. If you look back in history, none of the earliest kings ever elevated themselves to "di" 帝 or a god status. Even Qin Shi Huang did not refer to himself as a 帝, despite his tyrannical megalomania and bloodlust. This was not the norm before him and would have been considered blasphemous to attribute deification status to a man. -- Also, Qin Shi Huang had descent from Qin State 秦國, a Central Asian kingdom which means he wasn't exactly the same as the other Chinese in China at the time, and his first military target was against the early Song Kingdom 宋國 which for certain had ties to "Israel" via the Kaifeng Steles. I am unclear yet if it that period was a mass inter-clan war or an infiltration by marriage followed by betrayal from within.
You'll also find that much of the Chinese religious practices and characteristics have the same quirks as David's own personal behaviour, good and bad, as the Zhou dynasty left during the late Davidic or Solomonic eras. The imperial harem for instance was numerous times the size of Solomon's and the logic behind it followed precedence in the same way that Solomon inherited a harem, normalised by David's choices/behaviour.
This is awesome! Wouldn't it be amazing if the Chinese and the West united because of faith! We would see each other with different eyes!
Why not? Then Trump will have no problem with Chaina?😜😜
It would also awaken more people perhaps too for Jesus sake.
This was super interesting, especially as a Mormon!! Thank you!
Most hokkien use the sentence “ ti kong teh tua” aka lord above heaven is greatest
Thanks for the documentary which let us know about great China. But there is a great fault that BUDDHA WAS BORN IN INDIA. THE TRUTH IS BUDDHA WAS BORN IN NEPAL. How come these great scholars did not know the truth or they dont know about Nepal country.
Could it be the Buddhist is a branch of Hinduism so thats where the connection is coming from?
Man, the moment you realize what makes the Bible unique...
And how it was preserved... Through thousands of years... You'll be appreciative of the history that goes along with it...
It's interesting that Shang-Di is phonetically similar to one of the names of God in the Scriptures, namely שַׁדַּי or Shaddai.
I thought the same thing after I watched this! El Shaddai = God Almighty
SHAND DI is taken from the name of the Emperor SHANG of China who reigned China during the Shang Dynasty! Just like ALLAH..., SHANG DI is a FALSE god of the Chinese! The Chinese Christians should worship YAHWEH instead of worshiping the name of a dead Emperor of China! To the Chinese during the reign of the SHANG Emperor, he was a "god". Whenever an Emperor passed away, he is automatically deified as 'god" and Shang Di happened to be the CHIEF of all the gods of the Chinese! Plain and SIMPLE! Satan knows how to deceive humanity! If man thinks that worships to Shang Di saves, then the same shall be applied to the Allah worshipers, Lucifer worshipers, including the followers of the Jewish religion called Judaism and that represents more than 70% of humanity today. Doesn't that contradict the prophetic words of YESHUA HAMASHIACH in Matthew 7:13-14??? BTW, what did YESHUA say about PAGAN RITUALS?? Did He allow that or He CONDEMNED ritual worships??? Man is treading on a damnable ground here!!
Shangdi is in Mandarin, a Beijing dialect. In Classical Chinese, spoken in ancient times it would be 'Shang dai' which is strikingly more similar
All language was one...
@Bai Yue
@@mikesamuel4403 counterfeit yet many will believe it.
Absolutely beautiful video.
Honestly I suspected something like this was true after seeing a video about the Nestorian Christian Stone discovered in China
Was there anything in the Shang Di religion that spoke of a coming Perfect Sacrifice? A Son?
A Saviour?
This was beautiful to see; God was not silent before Abraham . He always has a reserved remnant. Just as Melchizedek appeared to bless Abraham .
To my knowledge, there was no direct reference to a perfect sacrifice or Savior, only indirect allusions. But that should not be surprising because the Savior was promised through the seed of Abraham, and that is why the Old Testament prophecies did speak of a perfect substitute.
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至高的上帝，天地的创造者，是唯一的上帝，全善，全智，爱，美丽，看不见，不变，永恒，慈爱的人类之父，他升起太阳和善恶，正义与不义，它是光，生命，理性，用心灵，用心灵无法理解，接近贫穷和屈辱，温柔但将整个宇宙掌握在他的手掌中......
Beautiful video! Thank you!!
Is there a Chinese version of this video? I would love to share it with my Chinese friends.
Here is the link to the Mandarin Chinese language version. ruclips.net/video/9dsm-1Asacw/видео.html If you have not done so already, you may wish to check our other videos on the Videoparables channel.
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The above video, especially points to the ancient Chinese written characters, evidencing Biblical events.
also in the second installment of the video:
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he posits that the wise men who came from the east to honour the birth of Jesus Christ came from China:
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recorded also in the Han Dynasty of China were signs in Heaven which he posits were of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ:
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I belive that God works in mysterious ways and China is on his to do board. I am the way, the truth, and the life was said by jesus. The way translates to tao, the truth is he was sent by god, and the life is his promise of life after death. Culminating into John 3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not Parrish but have everlasting life. These titles are almost like they were a revelation in themselves.
Praise Jesus for he is God in flesh.
Jesus is dead he is no God
@@richardrichard5621 Jesus pbuh is not dead,he will come back and fight the Anti Christ,then live untill he pbuh goes to Heaven according to The Quran. After that Judgement Day is coming soon..
@Gyoto Azimoto Islam is false
Most every culture believes in a supreme deity that created all things and the story usually always starts with how this "God" creating the world.
The funny things is that 99.99999% of the people are just followers and not true believers.
For simplicity, let us assume their is one powerful being (whatever name you call it in your culture) - I have asked these few questions to a head priest man in my culture that believes there is only one great God and he created all things.
01. Why did God even create this world if he is the all powerful because if I was that God I sure wouldn't create inferior beings?
02. Why God, a perfect being, created a crappy world, worlds, and universe?
03. How come God being a perfect being created imperfect beings? In the case of the Christian God, how come he created Adam and Eve and Eve was still able to be deceived by the snake (devil) to eat the apple. This prove God created an imperfect being.
And so many other questions that the priest couldn't answer.
Lets take the Christian God as an example - this is not an argument against the Christian God or any God but based on how people believe in their own scriptures.
So the Christian God created an imperfect world and because Eve ate the apple, people are born sinners. Then this God sends his own and only son to clean up the mess that he made.
Makes no sense at all. If God is perfect, all creation is perfect no matter how strong evil.
The point I am making applies to all cultures who say their God is the only true God. In the case of my culture, we have a similar story. In the very end, if those who believe in our God they will be saved and everyone else would die.
This means all our Gods still have outflows like what the Buddha said. The Buddha said Gods are very powerful beings but they still have outflows, meaning they still have hate, love, mistakes, and many other faults in smaller quantities. Why would an all powerful God even chose to say if you believe in me you will be saved and those who doesn't will be killed. A God that is partial is a being that still has outflows.
... yeah you praise trump too, disproving your whole religion.
History of the Bible Timeline
• Creation - B.C. 2000 - Originally, the earliest Scriptures are handed down from generation to generation orally.
• Circa B.C. 2000-1500 - The book of Job, perhaps the oldest book of the Bible, is written.
• Circa B.C. 1500-1400 - The stone tablets of the Ten Commandments are given to Moses at Mount Sinai and later stored in the Ark of the Covenant.
• Circa B.C. 1400-400 - The manuscripts comprising the original Hebrew Bible (39 Old Testament books) are completed. The Book of the Law is kept in the tabernacle and later in the Temple beside the Ark of the Covenant.
Confucius No Gods , No Devil 563-479 BCE China No Abrahamic religion in China
Loa Tzu No Gods, No Devil 600 BCE China No Abrahamic religion in China
Buddha 500 B.C.E.
Alexander the great IV 336-323 The Greek Gods Zeus, Hera, Hephaestus, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Ares, Aphrodite, Hestia, Hermes, Demeter, and Poseidon. gods
• Circa B.C. 300 - All of the original Old Testament Hebrew books have been written, collected, and recognized as official, canonical books.
• Circa B.C. 250-200 - The Septuagint, a popular Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (39 Old Testament books), is produced. The 14 books of the Apocrypha are also included.
• Jesus 6-30 A.D.
• Circa A.D. 45-100 - Original 27 books of the Greek New Testament are written.
• Circa A.D. 140-150 - Marcion of Sinope's heretical "New Testament" prompted Orthodox Christians to establish a New Testament canon.
• Circa A.D. 200 - The Jewish Mishnah, the Oral Torah, is first recorded.
• Circa A.D. 240 - Origen compiles the Hexapla, a six-columned parallel of Greek and Hebrew texts.
• Circa A.D. 305-310 - Lucian of Antioch's Greek New Testament text becomes the basis for the Textus Receptus.
• Circa A.D. 312 - Codex Vaticanus is possibly among the original 50 copies of the Bible ordered by Emperor Constantine. It is eventually kept in the Vatican Library in Rome.
• A.D. 367 - Athanasius of Alexandria identifies the complete New Testament canon (27 books) for the first time.
• A.D. 382-384 - Saint Jerome translates the New Testament from original Greek into Latin. This translation becomes part of the Latin Vulgate manuscript.
• A.D. 397 - Third Synod of Carthage approves the New Testament canon (27 books).
• A.D. 390-405 - Saint Jerome translates the Hebrew Bible into Latin and completes the Latin Vulgate manuscript. It includes the 39 Old Testament books, 27 New Testament books, and 14 Apocrypha books.
• Buddha 500 BCE
• A.D. 500 - By now the Scriptures have been translated into multiple languages, not limited to but including an Egyptian version (Codex Alexandrinus), a Coptic version, an Ethiopic translation, a Gothic version (Codex Argentus), and an Armenian version. Some consider the Armenian to be the most beautiful and accurate of all ancient translations.
• A.D. 600 - The Roman Catholic Church declares Latin as the only language for Scripture.
• A.D. 680 - Caedmon, English poet and monk, renders Bible books and stories into Anglo Saxon poetry and song.
• A.D. 735 - Bede, English historian and monk, translates the Gospels into Anglo Saxon.
• A.D. 775 - The Book of Kells, a richly decorated manuscript containing the Gospels and other writings, is completed by Celtic monks in Ireland.
• Circa A.D. 865 - Saints Cyril and Methodius begin translating the Bible into Old Church Slavonic.
• A.D. 950 - The Lindisfarne Gospels manuscript is translated into Old English.
• Circa A.D. 995-1010 - Aelfric, an English abbot, translates parts of Scripture into Old English.
• Genghis Khan . 1162 - August 18, 1227) United all religion
It is mentioned in the video that the Chinese are descendants of Shem. Which line of Shem are they from (Joktan, Lot etc)? Elsewhere I read that the Chinese are descended from Ham (through the line of Sin, Cannan) or from Japhaeth (through Kittim).
Please clarify as I am thoroughly confused. Thanks
Thank you for your question. Let me direct you to Genesis 10:29-30. The sons of Joktan all settled in the eastern hill country. These descendants of Shem are the only ones mentioned in the Bible as migrating to the east. We know that the Cushites migrated into the middle east to become the Canaanites and further down into Africa and then curving around to occupy the Indian Ocean regions. The sons of Japheth went primarily north towards Russia and then west to populate Europe. The descendants of Shem not only settled the Euphrates region, they moved east into Asia. Here is a very helpful website to study the subject: www.eifiles.cn/oo-en.htm
videoparables Thank you for a very enlightening response. What about the Indians from India? Who is their ancestor - Shem too or Japheth?
Regards
As if anyone knows. It's so briefly mentioned and so long ago.
salvatore tan Joktan, the brother of Peleg.
salvatore tan ken Thompson has a teaching on that
Again... I am not against the idea that there were believers in ancient China 2500 years before Christ.
Just to clarify...
What I am saying is the difference between natural and special revelation... Between saving faith and not.
Thank you for your thoughtful comments, Rucelle. Every one of your comments is correct, to my understanding. And you are correct that Christ Jesus is the only Way, Truth, and Light for us today. Were there people saved before Christ came and became the perfect sacrifice. Yes, of course. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the Old Testament saints looked "forward" to the perfect sacrifice, not knowing all the details, but trusting by faith. Can we be certain that there were Chinese who were saved prior to the gospel being fulfilled? I'm not sure, but I would hope so. It all depends upon what they believed and acted upon according to the light they were given. The generation after the flood of Noah's day certainly had enough knowledge of God and how he saved them from the flood. The animal sacrifices would have rightly been offered to Him. But over time, as always happens, the light is distorted by Satan. The early Chinese seem to have held onto the proper meaning of the sacrifices and the God they were honoring for the longest time, though their meaning too has become lost to the Chinese people. Our hope for the video is that the Chinese people will once again recognize the Supreme God of their earliest history who is now calling them to salvation through the perfect sacrifice of his One and Only Son.
Thank you again for your thoughtful comments.
@videoparables
To be honest... What the Jews had that the Chinese didn't have was the written Word of God. The prophecies and the prophets...
Was it a guarantee to salvation when you posses God's Word?
It depends... But you're already at the front door...
John chapter 3 mentions Moses and the Israelites in the wilderness... And by just by the fact that Jesus Himself quoted John 3, it speaks volumes.
God expects the Old Testament saints after Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, the united and divided kingdom to be saved in the same way...
Now, you might argue that the accounts of the serpent being lifted up in Numbers, as was quoted by Jesus, only refers to physical salvation...
But... Not entirely correct...
Jesus' biblical interpretation would state otherwise... John chapter 3 also includes spiritual salvation... Eternal life...
The context of John chapter is regeneration...
So, there you go... God's written Word or revelation is also a necessity...
In ancient China, Chinese worship Heaven (GOD). Since emperor Qing during warrior states , two dragons came to the land (evil spirits ), people started to worship emperor / people /power / money / dragons/ other religions.
Two dragons? Please elaborate or provide source- seriously would love to know
Yes, the producer is very familiar with the subject matter. He attends a Mandarin Baptist Church full of Chinese Christians who have come to a saving knowledge of the one Creator God of all people. The main points of the documentary are all given in fuller detail in the book FAITH OF OUR FATHERS: GOD IN ANCIENT CHINA by Chan Kei Thong, a prominent university professor and scholar in mainland China.
videoparables
My friend said that girl is hot
Was the speaker a Baptist..
Your misunderstanding of Ancient Taoism is amazing. Ancient Taoism was founded in 6,000 BC, and was, in fact, the first recorded mystic path on earth - thousands of years before the Old Testament of the Christian faith. It is more likely that Christianity emerged from the Taoist teachings
Greggo, Sorry to have to correct you, but you are totally wrong. A simple Internet search on the subject of Taoism will take you to multiple sources that will give you the history of Taoism. It was a philosophy developed under Lao Tzu around 500 BC and codified a couple centuries later as it turned into a religion. The history is explained in the documentary, so I suppose you did not really view the documentary. Fortunately, I do not need to defend what is common knowledge.
Sorry, but you are totally wrong. Lao Tzu was one of the last Taoist Mystics - not the first. I'm well read. I've got over 200 books on Taoism in my personal library. Many of the modern historians are incorrect as well. There is an enormous difference between a Religion and a Spiritual Path. Yes, the Taoist Religion was established after Lao Tzu by the Chinese government; but, that was 6,000 years AFTER the Chinese Taoist Masters (at the Same Level as Jesus Christ) established the Taoist Spiritual Path.
For all those wondering. Yes, there is a Mandarin Chinese language version of THE SACRED MEANING OF CHINA'S ALTAR OF HEAVEN. You can find it on the Videoparables channel, but here is the direct link: ruclips.net/video/9dsm-1Asacw/видео.html
Why are you using "BCE" and "CE"? Besides being vague "common era", It's foolish to use these because it's still using the same mark in time, the Birth of Christ.
B.C.E is before Christ existed
Or B.C before Christ
C.E. where the years Christ existence and A.D. is After death
Sometimes they use this to explain with 2,000 b.c v.s. 2,000 a.d. because they are actually talking 2,000 years b.c. and they don't want that to be confused with a.d.
Meli Holmes
B.C.E. = Before Common Era
C.E. = Common Era
They have been changed by modern scholars.
At most... What this video is pointing to is what we call "natural revelation". Meaning, through creation, man as endowed with "common grace" can deduce that there is a start... A Creator... And that He is above, He is one and He is holy.
The only problem with "natural revelation" is that, it could not save someone from his or her sins...
Because of Ophirian Heritage Conservatory (OHC) in the Philippines, I found this..
Shang Di = Abba YHWH (Yahawah)
Let's unite Shemites.
Agree.
No matter how many riches.or powers any one has no one gains riches or power in the grave! " What profit a man.if he gains the whole world and loses his soul, " said Jesus . No man cometh to the father except by" ME , said Jesus! There's ONE God only in the Bible 🙏 read for your self and discover TRUTH!
The scientists almost 100% sure that we human started in Africa, but they have problems to explain why we all look so different? No one knows actually how they looked like few thousands years ago, all brown, black what we defined as semite or like we know from Hollywood, white or according to our logic how they must look like? Every believers accept that ELOHIM could count the number of our hairs (amazing, you all should try) and so on and say: "For ELOHIM, everything in possible". BUT if comes in combination with sciences, we tend to limit HIS abililty and power. Many started to believe science more than HIS words (science so far I learn in my life is also not fact, but 'believe', just theories which we rewrite often many times). HOW if HE injected few different DNAs to create HIS own people? Even for a scientist is this possible (later?). Is HE less capable than scientists? After finished our study, many of us think we know everything, then we dig deeper and found out, more questions than answers und must humble yourself. Most scientists with their theories often so arrogant to sell their believes as facts (incl. evolution theory) . This topic is difficult for Chinese to accept, also for many other Asian countries due to colonialisation in the past. They consider the Bible and Christianity as tools to control them (which pity in many instances true). Some others can't accept if it is the truth and considering only their own race as GOD's creation. No one knows actually the 100% truth, we all know bit of whole puzzle. Shalom
Elohim ? Nah. Yhwh
Rl I'll
Charles Darwin is a theorist who wrote that fake history. He didn't believe in God, he was an atheist like the Chinese people. He made it up, the story of evolution. We did not come from Africa. It's full of b.s..
Well they found a fossil that confirms it
And in the heart of that reason is the "doctrine of total depravity".
Total depravity is the condition of man that enables him not to know or obey God due to the original Sin. (capital "s")
history is beautiful, but sadly there are people try to erase, dishonor, disrespect, twisted, wont acknowledge if they are not existed and it won't fitted to their desires., they want history will start to them.
I seen a video that point outs the traditional Chinese charaters show God of the Bible influences ..the Chinese once follows Yahsua
To be more precise...
I leave with this statement...
When we talk about revelation, to which do we attribute this?
To the event in history?
Or, to the words that comments along with the event?
When you focus on the events only... You get liberal scholarship...
When you focus on the words that comments along the events in Scriptures, you get - fundamentalism. I am not using "fundamentalist" as derogatory... In fact, they are heroes in Christendom because at a time when the virgin birth or resurrection were unpopular, it was the fundamentalists who championed these doctrines...
Not so with "liberalism" or Christian liberals... That is for all its denotation, a deviation and a derogation...
So...
In order to be orthodox...
You take the Word-Event-Word model of revelation. Because God is the Author... Of course, we could also touch "inspiration" and human authorship... But if you look closely in the events in the Bible...
Whenever there is an event, God gives a commentary prior and after the event...
Very Elaborate Illustration. Going Back To Humanity's Roots -- Where This Has Been Recorded. Learnt Quite A Bit Of Chinese Language, Culture, And Lexicon. Tough But Good. Will Listen To This Many Times. . . . . . .
So... Both event and Word... That is revelation...
And that is why... The church is just the recepient of the canon of Scripture, not its arbiter...
That is also a source of humility... In hermeneutics or exegesis...
Interesting when you consider the medicine wheel (present in almost every Indian tribe) the colors are always black, white, red, and yellow representing all the races of the world and is circular shaped.
does this speaker really know the Chinese's belief in faith?
So very cool! Thanks for this
Nice 🙂
Knowledge of God alone can't save someone...
It is only though true faith can one be saved...
lord buddha was from nepal not from india..
jeevan kharel dhamma in pali word not modern india languange...
Yes ,im Buddhist to Jeevan , but the Christian Theologycal said we Asian are from seth , ham , yafet , so Gautama Buddha is from Adam and Eve too due to theological
@@edwinagustian4769 hahahahahahahah
@@shivamprajapati8344 why you laughing are u okay? Maybe study before you laugh at someone who studies...it just makes you look very ignorant.
Good revelation!
Great thank to our Lord of Haven! Amen!
All south-east Asian peoples must recognize the Chinese nation in the beginning of God Creation is our ancestor known as Japhet descendants son of Noah who took the path in east direction to popularize this part of world among two others brothers Sem and Cham. Finally, Lord GOD of Haven makes humanity know that it's so accurate that all men living on earth were descendants of Noah descendants of Adam and Eva.
By this Holy Revelation, why do we continue to fight and kill each others from now any more! Black, white, yellow, human race are brothers and sisters. It's so clear that the dispute leading to war, master of killing will completely eliminated from earth unless all humanity accept they are born within sin which conducting to death, and do repent and believe in Jesus sacrifice on the cross once for its liberation. GOD bless humanity!
Alleluia! Amen
When people say Chinese, they mostly refer to Han Chinese, you need to know the difference between Han Chinese and Manchus, our culture is very different. Stop using Manchu picture to represent Chinese! Manchus are nomadic race which we Han Chinese fought for thousands of years, using Manchus to represent Chinese is like using Mongols to represent Chinese, which is ridiculous.
The Manchus weren't nomadic and in fact had their own state. They were among the states that formed after the collapse of the Mongol empire and specifically the Yuan dynasty.
When i hear " chinese" i used to imagine the opposite of original
Wait a second Mongolians and Chinese aren't the same? Does this mean that Koreans and Chinese aren't the same and Japanese and Chinese aren't the same? I thought these terms were just interchangeable?
@Jacky Phantom oh sorry Jacky I was actually kind of trolling I didn't expect anyone to answer on this because it's like over a year old and it's kind of not true but yeah I know there's a difference between Japanese Korean and Chinese and Mongolian Tibetan and several other branches off of the mongoloid genetic tree line as it was put in genetic terms a long time ago although they've kind of abandon that term because it's sort of unethical but you know I have to say it's quite surprising that you actually approach this with a very non discerned Manor and actually meant to correct me instead of just arguing and insult my intelligence like I was waiting for somebody to do I really cannot argue with you at this point or troll you I kind of just feel like it would be an ass sort of thing to do,you're too good of a person so... Yeah
@Jacky Phantom I mean... it's nothing particularly new to me. throughout history we've seen this kind of Mono-ethic behavior from all groups of race and society and culture, I would imagine that the Chinese would have such a ideology of such nature considering their transition to Communism or at least pseudo- Communism for that matter, and it makes sense that they are very much against Japan considering Japan's history with China but I mean this is just the way world of man works we're all sort of capitalistic by heart wanting to have it all
Three ingredients of true faith:
#1 Knowledge
#2 Assent or Belief
#3 Trust
Comment: Numbers 1 and 2, you may use on any historical figures...
But when it comes to number 3, it can not be used on anyone other than Jesus Christ because of the fact that - He rose from the grave. He is alive as we speak.
this makes me wonder why
Christianity is exclusive.
it makes me realize that there is such a thing as religious exclusivity
which brings up the question, why is exclusive?
why can't religion be, inclusive/universale?
The Shem did head east
At 22:52, Reverend Chung says that the Chinese are, like the Jews, descended from Shem.
That is incorrect. The Chinese are descended from Ham through his grandson, Sin, the son of Canaan.
That Chinese are descended from Sin is backed by the fact that China was known as 'Sina' to the ancient Romans, from whom the term 'Sino' was derived.
Julian Cheah - Isaiah 49:12 “Behold, these shall come from afar; and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim”
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Abba is from Havilah and Ophir is the Philippines. Scientific research 2020
God bless you...
This is nothing more than preaching of the torah and christianity. I don't think it's much related to describing the chinese altars as the title may suggests. More than half of the video is describing about christian history than religions in china. The christians I believe are mostly persecuted in China since long when the missionaries came to China and expelled or even killed.
China, from one God to many gods then to no god is a good sign. God is using communist hand to get rid of all idols prepare the path for His great return one day, so don’t condemn communists, thanks them!!!
Shang di is mandarin dialect.. old ancient Chinese should sound like shangdai
I pray that death rejects me forever plus it's forever friends.
The Chinese never forgotten the significance of the past hence why china is the safest country in the world. The genesis from bible is encoded in the chinese characters and confucianism teaching is about god.
Even though they have left their original God He still blesses them. God has some kind of special plan for them.
MissMooncookie Before the calling of Abraham, all the descendants of Noah are equal before Shang Di eyes. He blessed Shem, Ham and Japheth. So they all were blessed. All could have life eternal if they kept the 7 laws of Noah as instructed in Genesis 9. Through Israel as a nation God will restore all the nations as he divided them in Genesis account, but Israel is his set apart nation not counted among the 70 nations.
And that's found in the book of "MissMooncookie0829"? There is no plan of God but that which are found in His Word, The Bible.
@@donnysath9084 who are the 70 nations? Thanks.
@@markuse3472 I don't think you understand her comment as your response is very weird and makes no sense.
@@julie9541 Only what's in Gods word, The Bible, will come to pass (most has already been fulfilled). Physical Israel are not Gods people as a whole, not after Jesus Christ spoke to us some 2000 years ago and his words were written.
nice documentary
Darn good, with some flaws by non-orthodox Chinese & Jewish pastors; and is severely disfigured from 1:33 by adding the Olympian b.s. making the Spirit sado-masochistic. Without this intrusion, the overall thesis seems strong. Too bad the ending leads one to assume the over-thesis might well be mucked up, too.
Amazing . I was wondering if the 1st Dynasty worship of shang di was actually handed down to them. from the desendents of Noah son SHEM . Or that the Chinese people are the desendennts of shem and this proves it...
To me, Chinese is one of the twelve tribes of the heavenly father.
See, the Chinese put red paper over the main door post to ward off evil spirits.
The Passover of Israel
YES... absolutely RIGHT.
I watch some videos.
Something special about water...secret
may modern Chinese population watch this great documentary and many become believes of Christ,God Bless this nation.
Belief in Shang-di was reinforced in the 6-7th centuries AD when the Asyrian church of Babylon spread The Way.
Yohanan Doe The Way 🙏🏽✝️💥
It is generally known by all Christians that the origin or demarcation of salvation is Jesus Christ. By demarcation, what I take to mean is the point in time that separates the Old Testament saints from the New Testament saints.
So, can someone who was born during the 2500 BC be saved?
Yes, can be...
But it is not the confession of true faith that can one be saved. Rather, it is through the possession of true faith.
And historical figures like chairman Mao is still in their graves...
1hr and 11 minutes liar and lies !!
Jesus was never mentioned to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob ,Moses , King David, King Saul , prophets!!!
40 years in the wilderness? Not once mentioned!!!!!!
We know he didn’t need to say it because in Isaiah ch 43 to 49 he repeatedly said there is no one beside him, he is the saviour, the redeemer!!!!!!
The cherubim that cover the arc are your cerebrum, the veil is the arachnid between the dura matter and pia matter of the brain, the third ventricle is the temple, the fiery furnace, Brahmans cave, the arch and arc. It is the BA of the ka BA la. Boat.
Hvad snakker du om? Det der giver ingen mening..
Now chinese christain also calling God Shang Di.
So true the holy ghost was upon other nations. God spoke to more nations than one
And there are criterias followed by Jews and Christians alike to determine what books are going to be included in the Jewish and Christian canon of Scriptures...
All of those can be traced back to the Old Testament's test of a prophet...
In the New Testament, partly, it was the writer's association with Jesus Christ and the apostles... Were they referred by them in the apostles' writings?
Yahawah is the name of the Shangdi (Title)
Shang Di is a shorter version of Huang Tian Shang Di which means Supreme Ruler of Royal Heaven, since Shang Dynasty. It was during the Ming and Qing dynasties, that the concept of biblical god was changed from Tian Zhu to Shang Di. 😅😅😅
Amen thank you Lord Jesus CHrist the Living ShangDI
Andrew, the Chinese did not worship a triune God. They only knew the Almighty Creator God, Shang Di. But neither did the Old Testament Jews worship a triune God. God's plan and the evidences that God is in triunity with the Son and Holy Spirit are found in the O.T. scriptures, but we recognize them only in looking backward from our current revelation through the New Testament scriptures. There is a saying that might be helpful to understanding this, "The Old Testament is the New Testament (God's plan) concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament (God's plan) revealed." May I suggest reading Romans 16:25-26 and 1 Peter 1:18-21. For an example of the O.T. concealed revelation about Christ's deity see Isaiah 9:6.
actually, they did-- if you look carefully. there is a cloud of Glory, a divine Son of the Divine and Shang Di - they all commune and convene together.
We didn't praying jesus... Dude. We only praying for HIM. GOD who create all thing. The ONE. He is alpha and also omega. We didn't need jesus. We Also have HIS teaching which is the same as ten commandments of God that already teach to us from anciant time in family
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me
ABBA is The Author Origin of HIS Revealed LORD's:WORD's Realm and AlefBet [AlphaBet] ... His Omni-One Logic:Language Breathes Charity:LOVE, Divine Generosity and Generous Fatherhood Shared and Dwelling ... Mindful ... Eternal
Jesus is the only way and his Hebrew Name Yeshua means Salvation.
YAHWEH IS THE HEBREW GOD, THE TRUE GOD. AND CHINESE GOD IS SHANG TI OR DI CHINESE ANCESTOR WITH NO CONNECTION TO THE TRUE GOD IN HEAVEN.
I am Christian and I believe in this possibility. However, I feel sad that the politics since ancient times has always utilized people's faith in the way that benefits the ruling class. Even this Altar of Heaven was built in the forbidden palace. It represented the ruler's faith but did it represent the faith of the farmers and slaves, also? Why should the ruling class alone have such wisdom to build great things, write smart teachings, and control ordinary people to work, pay tax and kill and die in wars for them. I wish that our faith will be clean and free from all kinds of politics. God is great and holy. And some people always use His name to make money.
Such naive questions! How old are you? 12?
Shangdi the YHWH/YAHAWAH the most high🙇♀️🤲🙏
1:11:11 - praise!
The Chinese descended from the 4th son of C(H)am namely Canaan that's why the Prophet prophesied about the people of Sinim coming from the East they're not Shemetic period ‼️
When Siddhartha Gautama, known as Buddha was born there was no such a country called INDIA. If you tried to look old map of South Asia you will not find India. Buddha was born in Nepal.
Yes, you are correct. Someone pointed this out a few years ago. I confess that I do make mistakes, though I try to get my facts right. Thank you for sharing.
this is called
reconciliation
The mainland Chinese dunno their own heritage. They are still veiled.
The former communist party do not allow any religions, as in all communist countries!
This was absolutely great! All the God haters and atheists will obviously despise this video.
The title is misleading. I thought it’s documentary for chinese altar and God but it’s tackle the tradition and story of israelites. And Christianity.
This means the Hmong/Mong, today, were the ancient Chinese people who worshiped Shang Di. Only the Mong still sacrifice "Due" or "Twm" to the God of heaven, Shang Di. This means this practice was not the Han. And this means Houang Di was not Han. He was indeed Mong people. The Mong still talk of Fang Ti. Fang Ti and Houang Di was the same? Because Mong Lheng would have the F and the Hmong Der would have the H. Chiyou could be Han's ancester, Houng Di.
Shangdi is 1st god of China about 2000 years before our time
China government works for it's people , infrastructure ,health and economy.As of religion , we don't have religion we pray to heavenly God .
Amen
Have you heard the story of Balaam in numbers?
Also, the sons of Ham who are Sinite(Chinese) mixed with Shemites. They all mixed.
They all mixed some more than others.
Interesting. Too bad you depict Jesus as a long-haired European instead of the manly Jew he was and is. The long hair is a feminine trait which is a reference to the AntiChrist who is according to certain devil-worshippers' symbolism of him, androgynous, which of course means a mix of male and female. See Baphomet. The Bible itself says that the Anti Christ is not interested in women. "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."
Jesus' blood payed for all of the evil I've ever done; for every time I was selfish. The proof is that the Creator cares about me, since he gave me life, meaning that he will not let me perish, but save me, and so he had to die for me. I know that there is a Creator because order comes from intelligence, especially great order. Atheists on the internet who don't show their face tell me there is no God, and so I tell them I therefore should doubt their existence, since according to their paradigm where order does not have to come from intelligence, their messages could have been due to a cat walking on a keyboard! They mock that notion as absurd, yet do not realize that they are mocking themselves!
manly Jew lol
Foolish child, wake up...god sees our soul
I agree that there is no evidence that Jesus had long hair, but most of the Christian art of Europe depicted him with long hair because the vows of the Nazarite (which is why Samson had long hair) were confused with Jesus being a Nazarene. His being a Nazarene has to do with his coming from Nazareth. The early church of Europe was confused by the terminology. Please understand that the video producer had to use such artwork depicting Jesus as was available.