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I think it would be really helpful for the Maine PD to give some objective facts and stats about the reality of rape and and why convictions are so rare...the commenters seem to be under the impression that victims lying and making false accusations is the norm. It isn't. Most victims never come forward because of the shaming and harassment and and the lies of the accused rapists. Here we are - on the cusp of 2022 - and the misinformation about rape and sexual assault is at an all-time high. Please help Maine Coalition Against Sexual Assault!
It’s really disturbing to read pple’s outrage here about false accusations… as if it only happened in SA cases! Heads up: IT DOESN’T. But SA cases were and are still the least reported and prosecuted crimes, that’s why such mesures are very important to help victims to come forward. And compared to the astonishing amount of SAs that aren’t reported to the police, yet they feel like it’s the biggest injustice *ever* much. Shut up! Until you’re a victim that isn’t believed and are let down by everyone, you need to realize that you don’t know what you’re talking about, so be kind and stfu. Police believing the victim doesn’t do much other than lunch a proper investigation. That’s it. If you haven’t done anything wrong, you shouldn’t have to worry. The judge, and that *IF* the case is strong enough to make it to court, won’t believe the victim right off the bat. The victim’s credibility will still need to be established beforehand. So cut the crying crap.
1:28 sensitive questioning1:572:302:59 victims have hard time telling a story 3:40 victim may revictimized 4:20 they continue to believe 4:39 promise 5:225:47 why wouldnt u wanna do that6:156:55 follow thru 7:55 post traumatic 8:37 have another # 9:009:20 be patient 9:45 healing 10:45 follow up11:05
As common as rape is all over the US they shouldn't be so skeptical of victims anymore and much more suspicious of those being accused of this crime and human rights violation instead of accusing women and girls of lying because it takes courage to tell on a rapist and most people are not lying about it. Some do but very far and few.
Ppl look for any reason to say they don't believe you in their actions mostly...i told my mother's sister & it's like ohh well...but she can focus on insurance fraud Amazing
Ah, so the key is to believe whatever the woman says. Act like her claims are the truth. I guess all that is left is to arrest the man and convict him on evidenceless testimony alone. Now I can see why so many men are going to prison on false rape accusations.
@@vanessanot6271 LOL, my father was arrested on false accusations against my twin sister. We had a great life growing up. She’s been taking meds ever since high school due to test anxiety and hasn’t been normal since. Her entire family has supported her ALWAYS, and she gets to be heard by the police and make up stories about our childhood. How the hell does that make any sense? Spoiler alert: it makes zero fucking sense.
@@StocksIn60Seconds police LITTERALY just cant be like ohh yeah we out you In jail cause she said this. Noo there is much that goes into it. They have to do heavy investigations as I am a sa
Working on a student film documentary on sexual assaults in America that is non-profit and would love to use excerpts from this video (while giving full accreditation to your channel), documentary will be on YT. Let us know.
If the police is like that in Maine, that is great, in California is not like that...the victim is nothing but a joke, and they laugh in your face and ask you horrible questions and mock and laugh, and laught at you
This is revisionist PR considering the amount of human trafficking at bases that the Marines are involved in with public schools and church involvement with Balfour Beatty police.
Maury you are NOT the father! Watch and episode or two and then defend 'believe all women. Women are quite happy to lie if they think it Will benefit them!
I would love the verbal consent laws to be applied to women too! Men how often does your female partner ask for verbal consent before each and every act of intimacy? In my, limited, experience - only a tiny minority of occasions. Perhaps women are able to infer his consent from his actions or body language? Men who do that are rapists! Is that the same for women?
Odd to hear a woman arguing against the need to obtain consent from her sexual partner. I guess that is just plain oldfashioned gynocentriam- whatever she wants is right. Bit like the end of couverture - property rights, but only for women! Or the demand for reproductive rights - for women only.
With peace and love this comment is very tone deaf and just not true. A lot of victims experience abuse from people they know, or people they are close to, when people like that do things like s/a, it’s hard to separate the person you know beforehand from the person that did those things to you. It’s difficult and there is such a stigma around victims speaking out and victims having to act a certain way when they DO speak out but it’s literally like- you can’t take your experience with your rape and honestly say “oh this happened to me and I reacted this way so of course this is how everyone else reacts”. It’s unfortunate that so many of us women have to experience these things, but we should never say someone’s story is untrue based on such a small clip on the internet. Spread love!
@@katie1796 what the hell is wrong with you? I'm just curious, besides the obvious that you've never been raped or you wouldn't think victims should pitty the rapist and be happy it happened.
@@Anna_Nichole65 It's not that victims SHOULD pity the rapist, it's that they oftentimes do in the sense that they feel a sense of guilt and shame for the actions done to them. Like I previously stated, everyone reacts different to those situations. Obviously victims should in no way shape or form feel pity towards their abusers, but the fact of the matter is that they do, especially when it is someone they previously trusted or confided in. Like when I was raped, I felt bad because not only did something irreversible and painful happen to me, but I also put blame on myself because this was someone that I had once trusted, and I felt ashamed that someone I trusted even did that to me. That was my initial processing of what had happened, and after talking to other people about it of course now I am more open to thinking "wow this was terrible and that is a terrible person and I didn't deserve that", but it's not something you can fully process overnight. For me it came with a lot of denial and a lot of repressing how I felt.
Are you a victim of sexual assault? Fear is a interesting thing people do the unexpected things . people experience trauma differently. You should never judge a person’s journey. I believe her .
Detective Leal said “we believe them “the victim” from the beginning” is that their job? Or is their job to investigate what really happened. Maybe that’s why there are so many false accusations and innocent men getting arrested.
If they don’t believe the victim the they won’t do the investigation at all. They only do the investigation if they believe the victim is telling the truth. When they say they believe the victim it means they believe the victim is telling the truth that the sexual assault happened
@@Kaytie_Alexis The detective said we believe them from the beginning. Police and prosecutors will say why would that person lie about it. A police officer‘s job is to investigate not to take sides. Because if you believe someone then you think the other party is guilty.
True, some women lie and expect a guy that tries to be a successful rich person in life to go down just because of jealousy. I’ve had my share of being a victim in a crossfire between some people who doesn’t like me…
@@GMLwholesale So by that logic, I dont believe someone mugged you. I also dont believe someone broke into your house or keyed your car. What are you on about?
@@Kaytie_Alexis police don't objectively care if the assault occurred or not. They only care about the arrest. This is why these particular cases are so incredibly difficult. The investigation is for 1 of 2 reasons. They have enough evidence for arrest and want you to put a bow and ribbon on it to sell to the prosecutor. Or they have no evidence and hope you talk yourself into an actual crime. You should always seek legal counsel no matter what charges are brought forward.
Investigation of a sexual assault . Hmm , I’m a sexual offender . The court calls me a PREDICTOR . And I’m on the register . Today … fuck . Our dog who very impulsive gets away from my wife . I send my son out to hunt for the dog . He comes back and says you hunt for the dog ! I look from every driveway next to houses for this dog . THERE CHILDREN PLAYING and the weather is warm . FUCK ! All I need is for the police to get involved . Remember , the Megan’s law says I have to report as a PREDATOR . So you know this could turn really bad . My getting jammed up over a lost dog . A family pet ! I did find him . And guess who was waiting for me ? Along with our family pet . Should I go to jail ?
That’s not a valid question . What are the statues connected to my crime ? Do I have the right to retrieve my dog ? With children present ? @@DvyJonesPiracy
this helped me finally decided i want report what happened to me
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Truly truly thank you. It's purely disgusting....the event/situation to being almost laughed at.
I think it would be really helpful for the Maine PD to give some objective facts and stats about the reality of rape and and why convictions are so rare...the commenters seem to be under the impression that victims lying and making false accusations is the norm. It isn't. Most victims never come forward because of the shaming and harassment and and the lies of the accused rapists. Here we are - on the cusp of 2022 - and the misinformation about rape and sexual assault is at an all-time high. Please help Maine Coalition Against Sexual Assault!
It’s really disturbing to read pple’s outrage here about false accusations… as if it only happened in SA cases! Heads up: IT DOESN’T. But SA cases were and are still the least reported and prosecuted crimes, that’s why such mesures are very important to help victims to come forward. And compared to the astonishing amount of SAs that aren’t reported to the police, yet they feel like it’s the biggest injustice *ever* much. Shut up! Until you’re a victim that isn’t believed and are let down by everyone, you need to realize that you don’t know what you’re talking about, so be kind and stfu.
Police believing the victim doesn’t do much other than lunch a proper investigation. That’s it. If you haven’t done anything wrong, you shouldn’t have to worry. The judge, and that *IF* the case is strong enough to make it to court, won’t believe the victim right off the bat. The victim’s credibility will still need to be established beforehand.
So cut the crying crap.
1:28 sensitive questioning1:57 2:30 2:59 victims have hard time telling a story 3:40 victim may revictimized 4:20 they continue to believe 4:39 promise 5:22 5:47 why wouldnt u wanna do that6:15 6:55 follow thru 7:55 post traumatic 8:37 have another # 9:00 9:20 be patient 9:45 healing 10:45 follow up11:05
As common as rape is all over the US they shouldn't be so skeptical of victims anymore and much more suspicious of those being accused of this crime and human rights violation instead of accusing women and girls of lying because it takes courage to tell on a rapist and most people are not lying about it. Some do but very far and few.
Thank you so much for writing this comment! It gives me hope in this world
Ppl look for any reason to say they don't believe you in their actions mostly...i told my mother's sister & it's like ohh well...but she can focus on insurance fraud Amazing
What about the victims of false sexual assault accusers???
not relevant
Ah, so the key is to believe whatever the woman says. Act like her claims are the truth. I guess all that is left is to arrest the man and convict him on evidenceless testimony alone. Now I can see why so many men are going to prison on false rape accusations.
Bro you hit it on the head 💯
Ummmm.....nooo
@@vanessanot6271 LOL, my father was arrested on false accusations against my twin sister. We had a great life growing up. She’s been taking meds ever since high school due to test anxiety and hasn’t been normal since. Her entire family has supported her ALWAYS, and she gets to be heard by the police and make up stories about our childhood. How the hell does that make any sense?
Spoiler alert: it makes zero fucking sense.
@@StocksIn60Seconds police LITTERALY just cant be like ohh yeah we out you In jail cause she said this. Noo there is much that goes into it. They have to do heavy investigations as I am a sa
Victim myself j had to go throught all of the courts stuff and if they find that person guilty it's for a reason.
Maybe just maybe if ppl (men) are able to press charges against the state for not properly investigating false accusations
Can victims that are not believed b it still really happened to them sue too?
@@a.b.2850 yes
@@GMLwholesale sue the justice system?
I don’t think so.
@@a.b.2850 yes you could sue personally
Yes, If the women have got evidence that is more than their feelings about a certain event.
Working on a student film documentary on sexual assaults in America that is non-profit and would love to use excerpts from this video (while giving full accreditation to your channel), documentary will be on YT. Let us know.
What happens when they lie?
If the police is like that in Maine, that is great, in California is not like that...the victim is nothing but a joke, and they laugh in your face and ask you horrible questions and mock and laugh, and laught at you
😢
This is revisionist PR considering the amount of human trafficking at bases that the Marines are involved in with public schools and church involvement with Balfour Beatty police.
commiefornia
what can be done to separate real testimonies from the liars? can there be instilled laws to punish false accusers severely
Maury you are NOT the father!
Watch and episode or two and then defend 'believe all women.
Women are quite happy to lie if they think it Will benefit them!
Great vid. Thanks guys !!
I would love the verbal consent laws to be applied to women too!
Men how often does your female partner ask for verbal consent before each and every act of intimacy? In my, limited, experience - only a tiny minority of occasions.
Perhaps women are able to infer his consent from his actions or body language? Men who do that are rapists! Is that the same for women?
I suggest you keep your pants on...
Odd to hear a woman arguing against the need to obtain consent from her sexual partner. I guess that is just plain oldfashioned gynocentriam- whatever she wants is right. Bit like the end of couverture - property rights, but only for women! Or the demand for reproductive rights - for women only.
Spoken like a man
Fake accusations more common now
Lies.
Facts
That is true
Wrong. There's plenty of men being wrongfully accused, convicted, sentenced and ruined.
Speaking as a rape victim, I know she was lying. A true victim wouldnt be feeling sorry for their rapist!!
With peace and love this comment is very tone deaf and just not true. A lot of victims experience abuse from people they know, or people they are close to, when people like that do things like s/a, it’s hard to separate the person you know beforehand from the person that did those things to you. It’s difficult and there is such a stigma around victims speaking out and victims having to act a certain way when they DO speak out but it’s literally like- you can’t take your experience with your rape and honestly say “oh this happened to me and I reacted this way so of course this is how everyone else reacts”. It’s unfortunate that so many of us women have to experience these things, but we should never say someone’s story is untrue based on such a small clip on the internet. Spread love!
@@katie1796 what the hell is wrong with you? I'm just curious, besides the obvious that you've never been raped or you wouldn't think victims should pitty the rapist and be happy it happened.
@@Anna_Nichole65 It's not that victims SHOULD pity the rapist, it's that they oftentimes do in the sense that they feel a sense of guilt and shame for the actions done to them. Like I previously stated, everyone reacts different to those situations. Obviously victims should in no way shape or form feel pity towards their abusers, but the fact of the matter is that they do, especially when it is someone they previously trusted or confided in. Like when I was raped, I felt bad because not only did something irreversible and painful happen to me, but I also put blame on myself because this was someone that I had once trusted, and I felt ashamed that someone I trusted even did that to me. That was my initial processing of what had happened, and after talking to other people about it of course now I am more open to thinking "wow this was terrible and that is a terrible person and I didn't deserve that", but it's not something you can fully process overnight. For me it came with a lot of denial and a lot of repressing how I felt.
Are you a victim of sexual assault? Fear is a interesting thing people do the unexpected things . people experience trauma differently. You should never judge a person’s journey. I believe her .
@@lucyrenteria8734 good for you!
Holly hill 30 times never helped save the kids
You are actually supposed to not cover up war crimes.
Detective Leal said “we believe them “the victim” from the beginning” is that their job? Or is their job to investigate what really happened. Maybe that’s why there are so many false accusations and innocent men getting arrested.
If they don’t believe the victim the they won’t do the investigation at all. They only do the investigation if they believe the victim is telling the truth. When they say they believe the victim it means they believe the victim is telling the truth that the sexual assault happened
@@Kaytie_Alexis The detective said we believe them from the beginning. Police and prosecutors will say why would that person lie about it. A police officer‘s job is to investigate not to take sides. Because if you believe someone then you think the other party is guilty.
True, some women lie and expect a guy that tries to be a successful rich person in life to go down just because of jealousy. I’ve had my share of being a victim in a crossfire between some people who doesn’t like me…
@@GMLwholesale So by that logic, I dont believe someone mugged you. I also dont believe someone broke into your house or keyed your car. What are you on about?
@@Kaytie_Alexis police don't objectively care if the assault occurred or not. They only care about the arrest. This is why these particular cases are so incredibly difficult.
The investigation is for 1 of 2 reasons. They have enough evidence for arrest and want you to put a bow and ribbon on it to sell to the prosecutor. Or they have no evidence and hope you talk yourself into an actual crime.
You should always seek legal counsel no matter what charges are brought forward.
Oh ya?
Investigation of a sexual assault .
Hmm , I’m a sexual offender . The court calls me a PREDICTOR . And I’m on the register .
Today … fuck . Our dog who very impulsive gets away from my wife . I send my son out to hunt for the dog . He comes back and says you hunt for the dog !
I look from every driveway next to houses for this dog . THERE CHILDREN PLAYING and the weather is warm . FUCK ! All I need is for the police to get involved . Remember , the Megan’s law says I have to report as a PREDATOR . So you know this could turn really bad . My getting jammed up over a lost dog . A family pet !
I did find him . And guess who was waiting for me ? Along with our family pet . Should I go to jail ?
are you a convicted sex offender who perpetrated crimes aligned with your registry
That’s not a valid question .
What are the statues connected to my crime ?
Do I have the right to retrieve my dog ? With children present ? @@DvyJonesPiracy
I'm going to have to he's just not gettingit.
DO NOT BELIEVE THEM FROM THE BEGINNING!!! Dear God, I’m never living in Maine.
Mhm...sure
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