I wish people get enlightened and not caught up. Before opening your mouth to say much, it's rewarding to know the differences in regards to: Feminism Women empowerment Equality Equity Male chauvinism Gender differences in Narcissism and Toxic feminism.
Aoko is great and all but kubash fellow ladies ndio utetee male rights ni same old problem we've been seeing with so called feminists in Kenya Anita is right,don't bring the opposite gender down in the name of empowerment
I love Aoko's school of thought..beauty and brains combined..Its ironical how we ask for equal rights but cry out to be favoured as the weaker sex..Martha karua, Stella nyanzi,manduli,Aoko are what our society need.
Aoko started off well, then just went off the rails debating not for the sake for defending her definition of feminism but for the sake of winning to a point where I got myself asking if she holistically understands societal and cultural challenges that women in Kenya face today, as we try to work on towards achieving gender balance. Aoko reminds me of a classic “the oppressed becoming oppressor” narrative towards the end. Not that I completely agree with everything Rae stated, but she seems to have a wider capture of the challenges women face in Kenya, and why they are so. All in all, a conversation is a good starting place. Keep on.
Aoko, I have always liked your arguments and points, especially when it comes to deconstructing feminism. Many people think feminism is supporting women, but you have put it clearly that is "social, political, and economical equity, not equality for all sexes. Thumbs up.
I agree & disagree with both of them, but Annita is more disagreeable. Annita is a toxic female because anaona wanaume ni kama hawana feelings. Aoko on the other hand amenipoteza kwa topic ya marriage. Not everybody has to get married just because it's what people do. Jijue kwanza before kuji commit
Maverick Aoko is smart but annoyingly rigid. Especially on the issue with marriage, telling Anita that it is sad that she does not think she is for marriage. Both paths are different with both their advantages and disadvantages. Do not glorify one over the other.
Her decision not to get married will make her unhappy later in life when all of her children are having their own lives somewhere else and all her friends are busy with their lives too
That's why you should discourage men feminism. If you get a feminine man, he will behave like a a lady all through unlike a Red Pilled man who will always think about HIS FRAME.
Aoko must be be having a cool life free of stress dogging the contemporary young women. Aoko is the 'freest' woman I have heard speak. She knows what being a woman is all about.
Exactly aaoko,,we as men are victims of malicious women.this woman aoko damnnn. she is what she is on social media going by her tweets,,I din't see this coming.she looks what's she is like on photos,she oozes and eloquently brings out her points just like and may be more than she does on twitter.
You can't take Aoko head on if your intellectual capacity is in doubt, she will wash you down with solid arguments, reason and counter arguements. Aoko is a brain box, I love her way of looking at things. Anita Ray is standing on a very shaky ground..quick sand😅
Aoko needs to be set in a discussion with people or a person of her intellectuality...otherwise a person like Anita cannot be in position to reason the facts from aoko.
Both women are actually right in their opinions. And at the end of the day everyone is entitled to his/her own; fundamental values like respect notwithstanding. However,i believe relationships are specific to individuals and what works for one may not necessarily work for another. Moral of the story: Do you.
I understand Aoko's argument and where exactly she's coming from and she herself said that it's hard when people don't understand her point of view, but what she doesn't understand is where Anita is coming from and her perception or views. Aoko's views on marriage is on the basis of African traditional society and the structures and perception that come with it, where as Anita's view is modern secular perception and values together with the structures that come with it. This is why Aoko feels sad about Anita.
What Aoko said on creation of roles within governance, she is very right. This behavior alludes tokenism, hence women never rise above the numbers provided. They never rise above the barrier.. Aoko you have spoken well yet again.
@@Glowwww334 you Think thats too, you just don't know. Believe me you couldnt handle being a man(less emotional supports, more accountable, less attention, take more risks... )
Anita talks a lot of sense. I feel like Aoko speaks from a point of alot of ignorance. Alot of English without real life situations. Alafu Dr. Kingori yoh...i laughed so hard.
First of all...Aoko When Anita says she ain't gonna get married again means she was on that lane and is not at a point she wanna get back there for a while or anytime soon Secondly...when bars reopen I wanna have a drink with Anita coz ya'll men out here wanna bash her out coz she speaks the bitter truth you don't wanna hear. Lastly accountability is a point of maturity that all of us should be comfortable to be at coz it's all on us whether women or men,I ain't a feminist but when you talk of a gender that is you and address is as "you people" or "you gender" that is sickening coz you ain't also accountable of who you are as a woman. I do respect both the ladies's opinion and also this is my opinion. And men you ever heard of a man dating seriously having his money eaten just cozz😂😂😂😂😂😂anakula fare coz hana kazi yako..... respect is earned just as disrespect is🤔🤔🤔 and this is on period......
These days the appropriate word is equity. There is a difference feminism and liberalism. Feminism is not toxic it's a celebration of femininity just like masculinity.
I think Aoko has good points but she is focusing so much on defending the boy child instead of viewing it from both angles and Annita has no point at all, I think she was there to portray how spoilt our female gender is by being an example. She thinks she is defending them but clearly she is just representing them in an authoritative level. So what I can say from this topic is that we are in a generation where its spoilt already and if we try to fix anything will just end up worsening the situation, so what I can urge us is, lets sit down n come up with a way on how we can live in this generation. If its equality women want lets give it them, and they should understand that it comes at a cost not just how they want n how they want to go about it. It comes with responsibilities, power among others. so let them not want what they want n not want what they don't want. Even you King'ori I know you can agree that this is the main issue that need to be addressed "WOMEN WANTING WHAT THEY WANT AND NOT WANTING WHAT THEY DONT WANT"
Anita is just straight up ignorant she's deluded by her backward thoughts that hinders her from being open minded and seeing a greater picture. Aoko on the other hand thinks through everything she's being told and is very open to change
I beg to differ. Aoko is a realist. Aoko see things from a multifaceted perspective. She knows what is it to be a man for her to position herself as a lady. This ensure mutual understanding between a man & a woman when in a relationship. Anita on other hand is myopic & with silo mentality. She is only one sided & any relationship she will be in will result to conflicts. So, who is not open minded & ignorant here?
woooow! Finally there's a great Lady like Maverick Aoko who is out here to tell the truth.
A special place for Aoko in heaven and Men's Conference
Hehehehehe you funny
😂😂😂😂🙌
Walai tena
"Ukitumiwa fare, show up!" Quote by Aoko year 2020
Aoko is very logical. She is an alpha female because she understands how men think. Hawa slay queen wengine huwa emotional na Ni washenzi tu
Huyu dame Mavelic ako tu sawa intelligent level na wise lady 👍👍👍👍
I wish people get enlightened and not caught up. Before opening your mouth to say much, it's rewarding to know the differences in regards to:
Feminism
Women empowerment
Equality
Equity
Male chauvinism
Gender differences in Narcissism and
Toxic feminism.
All this nonsense is just all about power and resources.
Aoko is great and all but kubash fellow ladies ndio utetee male rights ni same old problem we've been seeing with so called feminists in Kenya
Anita is right,don't bring the opposite gender down in the name of empowerment
You have said it well 🙌
U said it all tracy
The show was not fair, Anita Ray cannot match up Merverin Aoko intellectual capability. Period.
I love Aoko's school of thought..beauty and brains combined..Its ironical how we ask for equal rights but cry out to be favoured as the weaker sex..Martha karua, Stella nyanzi,manduli,Aoko are what our society need.
Aoko started off well, then just went off the rails debating not for the sake for defending her definition of feminism but for the sake of winning to a point where I got myself asking if she holistically understands societal and cultural challenges that women in Kenya face today, as we try to work on towards achieving gender balance. Aoko reminds me of a classic “the oppressed becoming oppressor” narrative towards the end. Not that I completely agree with everything Rae stated, but she seems to have a wider capture of the challenges women face in Kenya, and why they are so. All in all, a conversation is a good starting place. Keep on.
Point on point on point.
Aoko your lines looks neat and smart.napenda sana
Aoko, I have always liked your arguments and points, especially when it comes to deconstructing feminism. Many people think feminism is supporting women, but you have put it clearly that is "social, political, and economical equity, not equality for all sexes. Thumbs up.
I'm very curious what you mean by equity (as differentiated from equality). Please elaborate?
I agree & disagree with both of them, but Annita is more disagreeable. Annita is a toxic female because anaona wanaume ni kama hawana feelings. Aoko on the other hand amenipoteza kwa topic ya marriage. Not everybody has to get married just because it's what people do. Jijue kwanza before kuji commit
The way Anita is laughing, that is how you know you've floored your opponent. Aoko is a great and a realistic thinker.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 ety Mammito amepigwa shock akakaa kama Butita 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 is that a joke or a fact
Kukula fare is obtaining money and goods and services under false pretense.
Maverick Aoko is smart but annoyingly rigid. Especially on the issue with marriage, telling Anita that it is sad that she does not think she is for marriage. Both paths are different with both their advantages and disadvantages. Do not glorify one over the other.
How's she smart? Shes the opposite
@@mweusimrembo890 in other aspects like career but not on this topic
I was anxious the whole time,nilikuwa nikiona kakitamba!!! I`m a lady but I totally support Maverick.Girls should work hard for what they want!
Hii ni kama kuleta dj shiti kwa platform miguna ako😂😂😂😂...haiwezi make
Makofi kwa shujaa Aoko 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I like the way Aoko has defined the word feminism. If just everyone knew this definition hii vita ya genders haingekuwa toxic venye iko
Aoko I beg to disagree with you that Anita's decision not to get married Will make her unhappy. Anita true. Marriage is not for everyone
Her decision not to get married will make her unhappy later in life when all of her children are having their own lives somewhere else and all her friends are busy with their lives too
Wacha afike 40....no kids no family ndo ataregret vizuri...loneliness
@@4dakulture651 🤣🤣🤣🤣 there's so many people married who are regretting! Others with kids are regretting
Anathema 🤣🤣🤣 I surrender. I thought it was a heavy tongue for Anasema
Weeuh definition ya feminism, Aoko anaitoa exactly na new revised dictionary. 💯👌
You can still be married but lonely in the marriage. Let's not bash people who choose not to get married.
Some hot truth...we all have our lives to live
@@gladyswanjiku5180 talks of slay queen 😅
That's why you should discourage men feminism. If you get a feminine man, he will behave like a a lady all through unlike a Red Pilled man who will always think about HIS FRAME.
@@cliffordochola7121 who asked?
@@elizabethkierere5806 although its a valid point
Aoko is one of the most sensible women I've ever heard 👌🏾👍🏿🔥
Aoko must be be having a cool life free of stress dogging the contemporary young women.
Aoko is the 'freest' woman I have heard speak. She knows what being a woman is all about.
Yeah she is, but of cause most women out there for example anita, rather be ignorant than logical
Yaani unasema mammito amepigwa shock akakaa bwana yake😂😂😂
Huyu Aoko apelekwe men conference, she is the ambassador of patriarchy
Good topic and both are mature in threre own way...love the way they reason and argue there minds 👍👍👍👍
Aoko would be a very submissive wife by the way.. 😄
Who doesn't love a submissive woman? I just love the respect she has for the male species.
Aoko lost it when she said she will be gladly be a second wife,😅 I Stand with Anita 100% She Makes alot of sense.
I lost it when she said tht
Aoko ni mjinga sana she is demeaning herself... She should try marrying 2 husbands to see if the world will be okay with it
Aoko is prove that boychild walijishindwa they even need a woman to defend them hehe.
Aoko, I truly appreciate how you are reasoning because you are making sense 👏👏.
Anthema
Alipigwa shock akakaa kama Butita, 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Hiyo ni hate speech.
Look at the way they are dressed. Who looks like a woman with sound head? Aoko, be blessed. May you get both boys and girls. Blessings
Exactly aaoko,,we as men are victims of malicious women.this woman aoko damnnn. she is what she is on social media going by her tweets,,I din't see this coming.she looks what's she is like on photos,she oozes and eloquently brings out her points just like and may be more than she does on twitter.
The problem of arguing n debating with someone who doesnt have content n clue on what shes talking about.Anita Raey apa hajui asimame wapi
I agree with Anita. Defending a woman doesn't mean you bash a man. And defending a man doesn't mean bashing a woman
She then proceeded to bash men for being stupid to send fare adding that they deserve to be swindled
Dear women take notes from one Ms Aoko. For future living and better living
Use your common sense.
@@elizabethkierere5806 why do you say so
🤣 🤣 🤣 Pigwa shock na kukaa kama Butita,, hii nayo Dr. Kingori umekuwa personal 😅😅😅😅
Kumbe uko rada?😂😂😂😂😂
Aoko reasons like a million women together
Next time you bring Aoko to the show please pair her with someone in her intellectual level not a socialite bimbo.
My sentiments exactly!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You nailed it brother
😂😂😂😂😂ati amepigwa shock akakaa butita 😂😂😂💔huna chills aki
pun intended
Aoko you have a special place in heavens for your heart and love
You can't take Aoko head on if your intellectual capacity is in doubt, she will wash you down with solid arguments, reason and counter arguements. Aoko is a brain box, I love her way of looking at things. Anita Ray is standing on a very shaky ground..quick sand😅
Soo true....
Aoko needs to be set in a discussion with people or a person of her intellectuality...otherwise a person like Anita cannot be in position to reason the facts from aoko.
Where can I get a woman like aoko she is one of those woman who Wil survive with you in any condition.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 alafu umuache ukipata pesa
🤣🤣🤣
The 'you women' has made me believe that women we have a problem.
Am here to watch the eloquent intelligent smart Aoko.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
Thomas Paine
Both women are actually right in their opinions. And at the end of the day everyone is entitled to his/her own; fundamental values like respect notwithstanding. However,i believe relationships are specific to individuals and what works for one may not necessarily work for another. Moral of the story:
Do you.
A very clear and a perfect definition of an introvert and an extrovert...
Aoko is real. I support her thinking 100%. Getting money for something you are expected to do and not do is stealing.
They all don't understand what feminism is,😂😂😂😂
#Aoko is a legit beautiful and meticulous African woman who knows and cherish her values.
💞💙
May AOKO live to 100 and plus years.If we only have her kind ,the world will be a better place.
Aoko is the face of wisdom 💗. VIVA✊🏼
God bless Aoko
Next time nitapata bibi yangu anasikiza Anitare kwa radio Jambo namrudisha kwao n I sell the radio
🤔
Tabia za upoko zinafanana na annita kabisaaaa 💯
Please Aoko name should be included in the national anthem and the scriptures as well as BBI
Well done ladies. Great insight from both sides👍🏾👍🏾
I love this lady aoko.... She is great and independent
Maverick Aoko is definitely an intellectual woman period!
Aoko is very smart, she is the ideal woman the world needs.
Thank you Maverick Aoko
Wlliam Ruto should consider Aoko as running mate 2022
I understand Aoko's argument and where exactly she's coming from and she herself said that it's hard when people don't understand her point of view, but what she doesn't understand is where Anita is coming from and her perception or views. Aoko's views on marriage is on the basis of African traditional society and the structures and perception that come with it, where as Anita's view is modern secular perception and values together with the structures that come with it. This is why Aoko feels sad about Anita.
Mansplaining much?
@@jowan7566 😩😩 And the cringe continues
What Aoko said on creation of roles within governance, she is very right. This behavior alludes tokenism, hence women never rise above the numbers provided. They never rise above the barrier.. Aoko you have spoken well yet again.
Use your common sense. You sound very ignorant. The point is to eliminate those roles hence eliminate the alleged barrier.
I like most of Anita's sentiments, hii kizungu ingine sielewi
Aoko's intelligence is on another level angemletea ciku busted
For Anita to say she doesn't want to get married again she has her reasons, to which she is entitled why does Aoko need to attack that?
Hapo hata MI nimeshangaa. It's her personal decision
Maverick Aoko ....you speak with common sense. Bravo.
People including Aoko doesn't understand that women dont need to be equal to men. We are okay as we are. Anita is on point.
But she said we are not equal
Lol speak for yourself
@@Glowwww334 you Think thats too, you just don't know. Believe me you couldnt handle being a man(less emotional supports, more accountable, less attention, take more risks... )
Nimetembea sijamuona msichana kama Aokooo...Aokooo
Maverick Aoko is on top🔥🔥🔥💪
Au sio Bony
Aoko will address us in our next mens conference
Anita talks a lot of sense. I feel like Aoko speaks from a point of alot of ignorance. Alot of English without real life situations. Alafu Dr. Kingori yoh...i laughed so hard.
Ati wasimalike kwa poor people aria urimu mtupu mbeca hutafutwa kwanza nie una ndingemwenda +44
@@mstevens832tiga urimu, Ngai! You as a man should know better to be a provider and protector to your children and women
Its called facts
Not ignorance
Manze Aoko is not your average woman...
Maverick Aoko has a special reservation at the Annual Men's Conference 2021
First of all...Aoko When Anita says she ain't gonna get married again means she was on that lane and is not at a point she wanna get back there for a while or anytime soon
Secondly...when bars reopen I wanna have a drink with Anita coz ya'll men out here wanna bash her out coz she speaks the bitter truth you don't wanna hear.
Lastly accountability is a point of maturity that all of us should be comfortable to be at coz it's all on us whether women or men,I ain't a feminist but when you talk of a gender that is you and address is as "you people" or "you gender" that is sickening coz you ain't also accountable of who you are as a woman.
I do respect both the ladies's opinion and also this is my opinion.
And men you ever heard of a man dating seriously having his money eaten just cozz😂😂😂😂😂😂anakula fare coz hana kazi yako..... respect is earned just as disrespect is🤔🤔🤔 and this is on period......
ile design cameraman anamulika anita time aoko anadrop vocabulary ni very suggestive
Aoko's name must be included in BBI
Aoko is a true conversation maverick
The fact that noone ever gets is that man and woman will never be equal no matter what
I know right. Women are too far ahead, the men have difficulty catching up.
Aoko should now deputise Mzee Kibor in defending boychild rights
Keep up Aoko,you are a wife material indeed,your reasoning is top notch....
Aoko's seat is reserved at men's conference
Hiyo story ya Ndege za UG😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂"Well that's very sad" has killed me. Aoko has deconstructed her fellow.
Women, please, i don't support toxic feminism, but let the men defend themselves.
Stop sending fare please. 😁😁😁.
The logic in Aokos lines are legit
These days the appropriate word is equity. There is a difference feminism and liberalism. Feminism is not toxic it's a celebration of femininity just like masculinity.
Sadly, feminists are not feminine women at all!
I think Aoko has good points but she is focusing so much on defending the boy child instead of viewing it from both angles and Annita has no point at all, I think she was there to portray how spoilt our female gender is by being an example. She thinks she is defending them but clearly she is just representing them in an authoritative level.
So what I can say from this topic is that we are in a generation where its spoilt already and if we try to fix anything will just end up worsening the situation, so what I can urge us is, lets sit down n come up with a way on how we can live in this generation. If its equality women want lets give it them, and they should understand that it comes at a cost not just how they want n how they want to go about it. It comes with responsibilities, power among others. so let them not want what they want n not want what they don't want. Even you King'ori I know you can agree that this is the main issue that need to be addressed "WOMEN WANTING WHAT THEY WANT AND NOT WANTING WHAT THEY DONT WANT"
I can never follow or inbox someone who says ati marriage is too much commitment , yeye Kama alijaribu ikamkataa wacha awachilie others wajaribu.
Who asked?
You're a mature comedian. Keep it up
Anita Ray...is SHALLOW
FEMINIST ARE THE MOST SHALLOW HUMANS ON EARTH
I totally respect the values and thinking of Aoko.
No one wants to talk about Anita's horrible logic on the matter of pretentious women eating fares of unsuspecting men, Poor lady
Anita is just straight up ignorant she's deluded by her backward thoughts that hinders her from being open minded and seeing a greater picture. Aoko on the other hand thinks through everything she's being told and is very open to change
Wisdom detected!
I beg to differ. Aoko is a realist. Aoko see things from a multifaceted perspective. She knows what is it to be a man for her to position herself as a lady. This ensure mutual understanding between a man & a woman when in a relationship. Anita on other hand is myopic & with silo mentality. She is only one sided & any relationship she will be in will result to conflicts. So, who is not open minded & ignorant here?