Marshall Silver Jubilee Shootout! (Feat. Ben Eller)
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Ben Eller and myself like things that are nice but we also like things that are small, like amplifiers!
So we did a shootout of the father Silver Jubilee and the Studio Jubilee, both from Marshall!
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Remember when we mashed on Jubes? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Fukkin sikkkk ... unc and fluff
Lol I say Pepperidge Farms remembers at least once a week!
OOOOoooooo I membaaaaaa
MOAR please and thanks
I read that as "pubes"...
This. This is exactly how a shootout/comparison should be - switching between the amps with no, not even a single word in between. Awesome! I really liked the small one.
The non verbal exchanges just through facial expressions are priceless! Great video
You guys should just have your own permanent channel at this point. I love it
I like that
Am I insane? The small amp has way more attitude to me and would sit perfectly in a real mix.
Deff has more of a presence to it
I concur!
YMMV of course, but once they EQ'd the big boi to match in the mids at about 8:30, the 100 was pretty close in that snarl but also had the low-mid warmth the little one was lacking. I'd still probably take the little one for recording though since the difference was small.
Yes, and you are correct.
I kind of like the smaller amp as well. There is something about the high end cutting through. I am not sure.
That was awesome! Amazing how good and close the little boy sounded to the big boy! Wow.
Great video. They both sound fantastic.
Fun stuff guys! Good vibes
Great video. Love my Marshall Silver Jubilee Studio.
That was a very easy to follow comparison, thanks 👍
Fantastic comparison video guys. Just what I needed to make the decision. You guys rock! 👊
Super cool comparison
Love my Mini Jube!
Dude you guys are so lucky I mean you put the work in to get this far but man free reign at Sweetwater that means success to me .. great stuff fellas
I love both of these guys and I know they snagged a KIIIIIIIIILLER brand deal, but damn I’m dying for them to do a video together that isn’t sponsored by Sweetwater. Whatever I can get though. Thanks guys! Love you both!
I Love every demo ive heard that amp in. I even use the plugins but never actually had the honnor of trying one of those myself. Great tone though you guys dialed those amps in like it was no mans business.
I have the 2525 and I don’t have the words to describe just how much I love it. I’ve often wondered if I shoulda gone with the big boy but then I look up shoot-out like this and I know I made the right decision!
My bandmate has the original 2555 with original cabs and I have to say, cranking the mids and an extra dash of high REALLY makes this a monster of an amp. Put the gain up higher and it can handle the heavier rock and metal with ease.
Nice demo and love my 87’ 2555 especially with 6CA7’s!
Thanks for this video…love Marshall’s!
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs!
These amps sound killer, I’ve only played the 20w and that was sweet sounding.
Wonderful content as always boiis!!
Best lows from a Marshall imo. Mids are insanely good too and has lots of variance in the presence and top end. My favourite Marsh tbh
EXCELLENT.
great amps. one of my biggest regrets was selling my jubilee 2553 short head and matching 2556a 2x12 slanted cab, which i bought new in 87. worth a few bob now!
I'd definitely go with the 20 watt amp! I remember absolutely loving the original in 1987 when I was in high school. I would get one if I could afford it.
The Silver Jubilee 25/50 was my main amp for years. It's a bonafide rock and roll amp!!!
I have one, in black… og owner. Love it…
Secret Tone on Jubilee: Input Gain on 8 not pulled, Lead master pulled on 6 and Output and EQ necessary.
Freaking vibe with you two
Love this video! Super educational. If you guys get a chance, I think doing this same shootout for an 800 would be amazing.
One of the greatest circuits of all time. My 2525H is my stage amp over much more boutique amps; it just does transience and boost/gain so fucking beautifully. It makes any guitar sound phenomenal
Great demo. Mini amps for the win
You got them close. I will say I liked the mini silver jubilee without the boost. But the 100 watt I preferred with a boost.
First I was like "the big one sounds way better"...but holy smokes the small one really comes to life! Damn!
The difference is in the headroom. Also these have a volume taper on the master that makes it so the amp doesn't get really loud until you get it to 7 or above.
Have the black one from sweetwater. It's a very good amp. Like everyone said you have to crank it to get the best sound from it. If you play at lower volumes it'll need a tube screamer.
Having both, I agree that the "feel" is a little different between the two, as well...the headroom makes a difference. But not enough to justify six or more bills.
Oh yeah damn. Sweetwater done fd up this time, this is pretty epic!
Had both, the 100 watt and the 20 very similar. Sold the 20 to get an FM3 for an easy great sounding fly rig with a PA speaker . Both sounded great keeping the 100 watt because it sounds glorious and had to keep one. Have a Jvm 410H, a BE-100 and the Jubilee 2555X. Do not regret letting the mini go as the FM3 duplicates every amp ever made.
Great video. Marshall did a great job with these. I'm a huge fan of the 20w Marshall Studio Vintage (plexi) version. I'm sure people will swear the 100w version is "better", but I can get the sounds I want from the Studio, and its plenty loud enough to be heard over a drummer, or in small club. Plus any club usually mics the amp.
Sounds almost sat good as my silver jubilee preset on my marshall code 50
Great comparison fellas! I’m seriously considering the Mini Jubilee 🤘🏻😎🎸
Two of my favourite sales persons, I mean youtubers.
Very cool to hear the Jubilee (both sizes) - thanks for the vid. I still think I prefer the DSL series, myself.
The big one sounds like I would think the little one would sound and vice versa lol
i think the most significat diference is the speaker. Even between the same model, they sounds pretty diferent. Few years ago i recorded a 2x12 with a pair of blackshadows, they sound completly different from each other.
I think exactly the same thing. The two sounds are excessively different, such a difference comes from the speaker, certainly not from the amplifier. An objective test would have occurred if both amplifiers had produced the sound from the same speaker.
Lunchbox takes it by a long shot!!
The "oh damn listen to that" faces you two shoot each other over and over make me laugh.
I honestly like the mini better, at least in this video. I cant place exactly what it is but it just sounds like my ideal Marshall tone.
I would love to see a video like this with the EVh 5150III's 6L6 and EL34 models
I have all the Marshalls love the vintage modern the best and the evh iii 6l6 head
It's a friggin win win situation.
I have the mini and also a nice Plexi build. The mini should in theory be more compressed due to the power scaling it uses to restrict the pair of EL34s to 20 watts. The brash mid range is not a thing with my amp and it tends to have a lot of highs instead, so the mids is probably down to variations in pot values or something similar. They can vary a lot and in a Marshall make a big difference to how things end up sounding (a 1 meg pot might only be 750K when measured, which is very common according to the Dave Freidman fella).
Got the 100w.. In my upinion the Master volume needs to be dimed on these... I know it sounds super cliche, but the amp really opens up when cooked. 👍
Great amps! I was a foolish young man and ignorantly sold my 1987 50W Silver Jubilee head. But still have the 4x12 angled Jubilee cab.
Buy it again, life is short 👍
I like the mids and highs from the mini myself.. l can't see any reason other than a very large gig for 100watts of Marshall.. l think in most club type gigs the smaller amp will obviously have to be driven harder putting it in the tone zone without ear bleeding decibels to get there. I buy the more practical mini... Even if the price was the same
Great demo love the jubilee’s,I’m wondering which switcher you guys used ?
While on the vid I like the big boy, I think the small boy will cut through better in a band environment. Both are great amps!
Channelling my inner Mick & Dan here, the amps wattage is less about Volume and more about Headroom.
It's why the large versions always sound "bigger" and the highs and lows aren't being attenuated as much as the smaller lower watt versions.
The Jubilee has always been my favorite Marshall. I bought a 50W for $500 back in the mid 90s, when no one wanted them. It's darker sound makes it the ideal Marshall for single coils.
Marshall really knocked it out of the park with the Studio line of amps. All of them. They're a bit pricy, especially the JTM45, but they sound great. And i don't know why, but for whatever reason Marshall has some of the best power scaling of any amp, especially the Studio. I've played the Jubilee and the Plexi, and the only real difference when going down to 5W is the volume level. It doesn't have the sag that usually comes with the lower wattage setting, it stays tight and you don't have to really dial the EQ back in when switching been the watts.
Holy crap the studio was $1299 4 months ago now they’re MAP $1749. So essentially $500 in a couple of months? Even if they’re cost to build went up by over 40% that unsustainable
Well let's see how many they sell at that price point. Demand will likely fall
I live in Australia and the 100 watt model is still at $2,200. Can't understand why it's so expensive where you are.
it’s the same thing I said about standard squiers at $500 and standard Mexican strats at $900 they rode the wave of pandemic guitar buying right off a cliff lol
So expensive in th US..! in Europe we can have 2525H for 850 euros and big brother 2555X for 1200 euros! ... but but but Friedman stuff is way more expensive for us ...
I bought 2525H (NEW) for just 750$ in 2021 from Germany.
I still have my 2550 half stack. I bought mine brand new in 1987.
A B-stock full sized Silver Jubilee is $850 on Thomann right now. Here in the US, a mini Jubilee is about twice that. Even with import duties (about 5%) and shipping that’s still around $1K. Gear prices seem so crazy lately.
Glad I got mine years ago. Got the 100 Watter for 1400 in 2015.
Wow! Didn't expect them to sound that similar! It sounds like big one just a bit bassier to me. Imho
They had two amps on two separate speakers. Speakers don't sound the same at all...oneV30 will sound different from another V30 as an example. They even said the 100w was on the left side and the mini was on the right side. If they ran it as a mono 4x12 and switched the amps it would have been a better representation in my opinion. Awesome review though, I wanna get a mini head too as I already have the 2555x. The big amp has more high end sizzle because of the speaker. In my cabinets, the two top speakers sound completely different so do the lower speakers.
Keep up the great work fellas! Really enjoy watching your channel :)
I own the little boi and it slays. I think that extra upper mid grit is coming from the power tubes cooking? Either that or as someone else has pointed out there could be a bit of variation between the speakers which isn’t uncommon. Not gonna lie I’d be happy with the big one too - both sound superb.
i think I like the smaller one better. It has more clarity and presence to my ear.
I want this amp. I have the jvm410h. This is next one day
Gary Holt also used them. Its what he tours with
I love my 100w silver jubilee. I use it in a death metal context and for sure need the headroom the 100w offers... But dang that 20w sounds killer too!
So glad Marshall reissued this amp.
You probably won’t have any headroom issues because it’s still el34s in the 20w. Headroom usually is more of an issue when small amps use el84s compared to their el34 big brothers (same with 6L6 vs 6V6). If that amp matches the big ones volume at just 1 notch more… it’s closer to a 5150III 50w than a Peavey 6505MH due it’s big boi tubes if you get my drift.
Awesome fuckin' tones!
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
Seems like that mini would cut through better than the big brother. It had some nice mids.
I've seen the good ol Dixie Dregs several times back when a show ran about $8 a ticket. Steve Morse played the fuck out of his... incredible sounds.
this video sold me on buying this mini lol
Sounds like the 100watt has more presence. I actually prefer the small amp since I'm into classic rock.
i have a couple Marshals. I had a Vox AC30 head. I traded the Vox, and I never play the Marshalls. It's because the Quad Cortex Exist. I'm seriously to the point where I'm not sure I'll ever buy an actual amp again. I can just capture something if I want it. The QC comes with just about all the amps I'll ever need, and I would defy anyone to blind taste test the QC against just about any amp and tell the difference. I know one thing for certain....The audience doesn't know the difference.
Great video guys! I'd take the Studio in this case. Can you do the same type of video with the JCM 800 and the Studio Classic?
Just got the plexi sv20h 2 days ago , now i got the 2555x jubilee
You guys should do more gear reviews together.
For folks struggling to dial in these amps, here is how I got it to work. It can be frustrating but its stupid rewarding:
Dont bother with headroom; pull the rhythm clip and keep it on for both channels. Soft picking dynamics will give you chimey pushed cleans on the rhythm channel. Master volume lower than 5 will sound super fizzy. Past 4 o'clock will sound boomy and kind of flubby. I keep my master around 2 oclock for both channels.
*The gain stages in these amps are mostly from clipping diodes*: you read that right. The rhythm clip and lead clipping circuit are solid state. The preamp tubes do very little for gain saturation except to provide honest tube response and character. I actually think thats why this amp is so good. With that said youre not going to get the same preamp breakup from boosting the signal, which makes boost pedals respond in an interesting way. I use a Keeley katana and it works great for mid/solo boosting.
Now dial in your input gain to taste. I keep it at about 1-2 o'clock. Anything past 3 sounds like shit.
Now dial in your presence and trebles. Remember: presence is highs in the power section. If your master is too low, youre going to have different presence than with the master cranked.
Now dial in your bass to taste.
Now dial in your mids.
Now go back and adjust your global and lead masters for unity volume *if you want*.
I like a more scooped EQ and these amps have plenty of mids on tap. Their EQs are EXTREMELY sensitive, 11-1 o'clock are the sweet spots between all of them, this isn't a plexi. Diming isn't really a thing. Here are my settings:
Presence: 3
Bass: 5 3/4
Mids: 3
Treb: 7
Master: 7
Lead Master: 6.5
Input gain (Clip engaged): 6.5
IF you like mids, setting the mids around 6 will give you more than you need, but it can sound a little contoured and boxy like a small amp with too much mids IMO.
I know this is a lot but I am really passionate about these circuits; they've been slept on for so long but the mini Jube really opened some doors in the guitar world. Wish Id had someone to tell me this stuff, took me 3 weeks of tinkering. Hope this helps!
Thanks my friend my Jubilee stack has been sitting for two years just don’t like the vintage 30s I tried into my vintage modern cabs and it started to come around I will try your settings thanks
@@vox1966 I run mine through two Celestion V-types and it sounds perfect through them, a more modern speaker will suit it well
Next time you guys are in town let me know and I'll bring up my JCM Slash for you to demo. It basically a 100W 2550 and is an incredible amp. Sounds different from the 100 Jubilee you just demoed.
To me 20 watters are a great place to be, because you can crank them and get both preamp and power amp gain without blowing your ears out. The Silver Jubilee gets a bad rap because they have op amps, kind of like most jcm900's, and the tube snobs will claim that they aren't "all tube".
I bet Opeth would sound amazing through both of those
I keep returning to your jubilee videos. I know they are different beasts but in your opinion which amp would you choose between the Jub 100 and the EVH el34 100? Thanks
I own the smaller 5/20w Jubilee head that I also use with a Mesa cabinet. (vertical Mesa 2x12) I don't have the 100w head to compare it too, but the 100w head seems to have more hiss to it in this video. They both sound great though. The 5/20w head was well worth the $1,100 I paid for it back around Jan. 2020. As someone noted, they are closer to $1,750 now! Don't forget to ask for a discount rather than paying MSRP!
Is the smaller one really loud enough to gig with?
@@watchingthecrazyworld7761 In an arena or venue supporting thousands of people? No, not really. In a pub / school / church or other smaller venues? Yeah, 20 watts is a lot louder than a lot of people think, but don't take my word. Go to a local shop and plug into a 20w amp crank it up and see for yourself.
I'm having such a difficult time trying to decide if I want to buy one of these Marshall Studio heads. Wish a retailer in my area had all 3 of them to test out.
ive played all three extensively and the jubilee smokes the jcm 800 mini for a havier rock tone, if u want more classic tones go with the plexi but to get that to sing u have to get it really loud like the 100w version
@@jamesterry1341 Looking for something for that heavy rock tone and something that would be suitable for that 80's metal vibe.
those are expensive in the states ... you can get the 100w silver jubillee for like 1200 euros
Not an easy match ☯️
i got jcm tone from my marshall mf350 so much gai n in this amp
Great vid to watch while I crush quesadillas
Biggest problem you're not using the same speakers.
You needed an amp switcher to do a fair comparison.
Anyway I like them both 😅
Yeah i just noticed both amps are not running through the same speakers and thats probably why they sound different.
Great comparison!
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What's up with that Mesa cab? It seems too small for a Traditional. Explain pls.
the real difference between the two is the head room. the 20w will hit the sweet spot at lower volumes while the 100w didnt even reach it in this video. crank up the 100w a little more and they will sound identical
Is that a vintage 30 mesa cabinet??
Because i know the silver jubilee was made for v30s
Why would you have different settings when A/B both heads? I would have first started with that to see if there was a fundamental difference.
What amp switcher were you using in this video?
Exodus uses these too
The difference is bigger than I’d expect… wow